yea lots of ways to do it
#arms
rare kite
yea and fury procs sd more as well. pretty funny
worthy mortar
8 min sim for gallywix rright?
weak wave
I can't login rn. How much das Critical Chain increase crit Chance if I got ~40%?
candid pecan
weak wave
Nice.
And seriously?
fresh spire
mental tartan
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715
😘
strange perch
Nice.
And seriously?
shadow ibex
Arms notes this week build
weak rain
Arms notes this week build
bloodborne is 1 point talent now and gives 20% bleed dmg
alpine falcon
is there an wa for belt proc? if we using the haste/crit/mastery one? to actually track when it's up on you?
tacit crystal
tracking it chamges nothing and maybe you can find something on wago or make it yourself
steep osprey
Arms notes this week build
errant pulsar
have a friend that is new to arms, I don't personally play arms and im just wondering if there are any weakauras i should tell him to download. He is new to wow
latent moss
should prob just get the basics down
for example understand the main idea of slayer on st
the role sudden death plays with juggernaut
then can download sd weakaura that tells you when to send it
blindly following a weakaura is bad imo
you should know why its like that
im pretty sure theyre linked in dps faq
maybe there is some updated version with better visuals idk
colossus is just play your opener and follow priority
collateral damage optimization is tricky and not worth in pugs
merry stone
Any way to use nitro boosts without belt UI popping up? 🫠
calm hollow
Any way to use nitro boosts without belt UI popping up? 🫠
You cant put nitro boosts on the new belt
shadow ibex
<:copium:839076283467431956>
I promise
wintry scroll
guys in m+ do i Demolish on cd or do i wait for 10 stacks and warbreaker ?
in wowhead it says nothing it just says demolish
shadow ibex
granite egret
is colossus or fury better for dps?
granite egret
what about raids
latent moss
boss dependent
granite egret
seen a build that said mythic+ cleave and one that said mythic+ prio. what's the difference there?
latent moss
theres only one real m+ build and thats colossus arms with cleave spam
hollow plover
amen
latent moss
idk what do you mean by mythic+ prio
thane fury?
thane fury has very good st and prio but has no aoe
granite egret
not sure its a copy build on wowhead
would that colossus and cleave work well in regular raids as well?
charred brook
gets owned by slayer arms in raid
granite egret
gets owned by slayer arms in raid
multi target or single target?
charred brook
theres not really any fights in the raid that are enough multi target for col
it would be slayer for p much every fight
dim basalt
rip col @ bandit
worthy mortar
Is MS fastest way to reset bladestorm cd?
latent moss
wdym
consuming mfe will give u cdr from slayer
and execute can spend the most rage for anger management
worthy mortar
Like when sending bs on opener what spell reduce cd fastest between ms execute proc and slam
Aah ok so execute
latent moss
40 rage executes spend the most rage so with anger management they reduce the cd the most
and slayer has its own way of reducing cd
worthy mortar
So fir example on myth gallywix when i send bs on opener should i ignire juggernaut stacka a d just try ti reset asap for 1st set of adds?
For*
sharp wyvern
you most likely lose jugg stacks every time you need to run away from the boss anyway
unless you get some otherworldly rng
shrewd minnow
Just wondering, as a general rule, in execute phase on single target, as slayer. Do we still use full Bstorm Duration or better to BS hit 2 unhinged and cancel for executes?
hollow plover
Just wondering, as a general rule, in execute phase on single target, as slayer....
why would you cancel bladestorm
why specifically after 2 unhinged
hollow plover
sure u have an idea
shrewd minnow
does it do more damage than cancelling and executing
i dont know, hence me asking
Back in SL, was more efficient to cancel after unhinged hit since BS didnt do much dmg, but idk how good the dmg is with slayer storm so
shadow ibex
No
worthy mortar
blast boss
so zugzug 😄
ripe bramble
Yikes
shrewd minnow
why not 1
the 2 is next to the 1 on my keyboard
misstype
wasnt particularly trying to theory anything, just idk what dmg scaling is like rn, but with full stacks and hitting 6M executes, wasnt sure if just cancelling after unhinged hits and continuing execute rotation is better
TLDR
hollow plover
seemed like you did try to cook some random stuff and i was trying to udnerstand why
mb king
silent valve
just one quick thing dunno if anyone noticed
Hunter BL not working on anyone else?¿
worthy mortar
it didnt work on my hunt day after reset, now works
echo tendon
MM lust is broken in keys
silent valve
this SC is taken right now
echo tendon
yeah its still broken
silent valve
MM lust is broken in keys
wow..
echo tendon
its specifically MM and only in keys for some reason
echo tendon
you get the buff/debuff but you dont get the haste
silent valve
your screenshot shows you getting it
Check my haste
sharp wyvern
worthy mortar
how the fk guys u are resisting not pressing execute out of WA proc XD
hollow plover
how the fk guys u are resisting not pressing execute out of WA proc XD
logic > emotions
retrain your muscle memory
no singular warrior spec clicks exe as soon as u get an sd proc
worthy mortar
😦 but its soo tempting
hollow plover
its been months
worthy mortar
i know its just shiny and lovely looking spell 😄
worthy mortar
shadow ibex
seemed like you did try to cook some random stuff and i was trying to udnerstand...
You could technically cancel BS after 6th tick since 7th tick won't grant unhinged
strange perch
Hi could someone tell me how’s arms doing in m+ in st atm ?
Is it good dps for bosses ?
shadow ibex
It's an aoe dmg bot
serene thicket
3.4 overall at 682 on floodgate is bad right? I can’t figure out what I’m messing up.
wary raft
seems a bit low yeah but its probably your route, there are some insane pulls that are super easy in there I see pugs constantly not doing
can always link alog to see if someone wants to check if you are butchering the rotation somehow
hollow plover
3.4 overall at 682 on floodgate is bad right? I can’t figure out what I’m messi...
got a log?
magic canopy
hollow plover
@magic canopy chumgus
silk spade
kindred oak
what is the best 675 wep to craft?
kindred oak
ty
slow saddle
Just make sure its str and they are all equal😁
reef glade
what is the best 675 wep to craft?
And make it 681 for 30 more gilded 
kindred oak
eh ill recraft it later. got no more gilded crests
agile totem
Hi, i didnt see the question answered yet. For my twink what to get with cartel chips if i wont kill the last few myth bosses but time m+ 12?
Cant really sim as i dont have much gear yet
magic canopy
@tacit crystal crit buff from fire event
dim basalt
Hi, i didnt see the question answered yet. For my twink what to get with cartel ...
HoC Pacemaker Jester
tacit crystal
<@335579026259312641> crit buff from fire event
what
agile totem
thanks stjpa, is jester better than myth rings?
tacit crystal
oh we are just bug abusing now
dim basalt
thanks stjpa, is jester better than myth rings?
Should be better but sim to make sure
Chances are high tho
agile totem
alright, thanks. just wanted to know whats bis so i can get it while collecting all the other gear. dunno if sims are accurate while i dont have some gear
strange perch
oh we are just bug abusing now
hi
charred brook
wheres the fire festival buff thing in dornogal
tacit crystal
cone — 5:02 PM
2pauck
#freepauck
quasi torrent
dull comet
bis war arms for S3 ?
minor gust
probably
dull comet
look like broken to
minor gust
2 min
dull comet
o y
shadow ibex
trinkets are mad weird next tier
minor gust
I never think about them
grab a 1:30 on use and a passive stat stick and call it a day
shadow ibex
yea p sure raid next tier doesnt have any 90 second
only one that isn't 2 mins you have to stack the buff. should probably be changing to something you can use on pull with lust before launch
hollow plover
yo lads i desperately need input on this fight right here, i dont understand how my damage was this low https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1386491456591499265
i need some big pp raid arms opinions
i got a 90 parse with 15 stacks of jugg into exe phase
like i just dont get it
shadow ibex
you need to crit when you didnt crit
hollow plover
oh yeah i didnt crit.
minor gust
when you should have crit
hollow plover
🤔
i still dont see that as a 90 if i dont crit exe phase mortal strikes
its fuckin heroic
and im geared ouit of my mind
minor gust
idk prob not worth on heroic but you didnt prepull ava to line up with clash
and you didnt hold cs for clash
minor gust
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DkXRry1nVf9zNbGj?fight=23&type=damage-done idk this was my last arms cauldron kill and it was rank like 15 at the time
rng happens as well
I think full cds clash in execute adds up
hollow plover
like i have a 3.84mil arms cauldron log
how the fuck am i 700k behind now
how am i so far behind myself
in all my time playing arms i never had something so disastrous happen
i went into exe with 15 stacks of jugger
and i lose 700k
halcyon breach
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1266019851743399996.gif?size=32&animated=true&...
open ingot
Game of crit and procs rng spec wcyd
open ingot
Hopefully at the very least next season juggernaut feels good
open ingot
Cause man it sucks to watch it fall off
hollow plover
your parse might be considered scuffed cuz its an 11.1.7 parse
that doesnt matter im 700k dps behind my 11.1.5 parse
idc about rankings
like that
its 700k dps
minor gust
well you opened up with talking about parse
hollow plover
well yea
but still
number way down
Ah.
i see.
opportunist procs
small difference
and non crits of MS
minor gust
I cant remember does monk/dh debuff disappear when they die
hollow plover
it stays
hollow plover
yea i assume monk didnt touch the ape
hollow plover
idk if he even touched both bosses
so it's arguably a combination of very stupid circumstances
like
no opportunist procs
no ms crits
no 2nd mystic touch application
3min fight duration on the dot
etc
minor gust
yeah biggest L is prob the fight duration
hollow plover
idk this was all in all a disgusting outcome to a fight where i felt i didnt deserve this garbo of a dps result
open ingot
I think monk being dead is probs like 60k-80k alone
warped prism
Since no actual changes, does it look like colossus arms is still prob the go to m+ spec just based on the ptr tier sets? Atm ofc cause obv everything will change
minor gust
theres always time for changes ptr just started its not just 1 round and done but just looking at tier sets and hitting dummies on ptr colossus still feels great for M+
minor oracle
Hi there,
Currently I'm at ilvl 672 with the recommended Colossus build for Arms in Mythic+. I am generally running +12-+14 keys with a group of friends. I've been following the talents and rotation very closely but my overall add damage and boss damage is significantly lower than when I was running the Slayer build. I was expecting Colossus to outshine Slayer in more cleave-heavy dungeons but I’ve yet to run a key where I didn’t pull nearly a mil overall higher. Maybe I'm missing something in my execution, synergy, or the Colossus build is just underperforming at this ilvl/key range?
Here's a view of my overall for a 12 ToP
tacit crystal
we need a log
but you are probably casting demolish incorrectly
having it canceled
or not casting at 10 in aoe
sour forge
At a glance cleave is probably low
sour forge
That much higher?
minor oracle
Is there a specific way I can link my last M+ run? I did have a few demolishes canceled in the key
And I was under the impression we didn't need to wait for 10 stacks to use it
tacit crystal
you should try to see if there are any logs of your keys
reef glade
on single target sometimes but def wanna do it for aoe
tacit crystal
hi swordish
reef glade
yer
tacit crystal
i miss you bud
reef glade
tanks
tacit crystal
rip swordish guild
reef glade
tacit crystal
can you not donowall me 😔
reef glade
depends on context of the media
tacit crystal
or do tou do that funny thing where you read it think you gonna reply later then forogr
magic canopy
rip swordish guild <:critcake:984549832511344640>
what
reef glade
truegi
magic canopy
o
reef glade
I’m in nyc
magic canopy
thought his guild actually deadge and was like nyooo
reef glade
(shit mid)
tacit crystal
wb to ny
tacit crystal
thought his guild actually deadge and was like nyooo
nah be me trialing in diff guild bc i got aids and was just a matter of time
i needed a home after the disaster i was in
magic canopy
I’m in nyc
final dove
Does opportunist take higher prio over a MS ?
tacit crystal
before execute yes
final dove
And then in execute the 3rd global before a MS is a execute ? Or is it an opportunist proc over another execute
rare kite
And then in execute the 3rd global before a MS is a execute ? Or is it an opport...
ep2>opportunist>exe>op
blissful tree
hmm i thought that opportunist takes over ms even i already have 2 stacks of EP. lets say i cast 3 executes and with the third cast opportunist procs. i would use op and then ms.
like in this picture. 4 globals between the next ms because of an op proc.
thick kelp
Opportunist takes priority when you have less than 2 stacks of martial prowess
fresh spire
Can confirm opportunist takes priority. But difference is minimal.
blazing plover
eager sigil
balmy kindle
Crit chain or the mastery one
slow saddle
Bolt until resrt no?
thick kelp
yeah
dreamy valley
how the fk guys u are resisting not pressing execute out of WA proc XD
what is WA proc? im new here 
and if its about weakaura then which one exactly?
heavy patio
presuming he means the slayer one that goes kaching when ya should hit it
dreamy valley
could you also check my sim? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eSSxZGBDT6D1Gbb6x7xjMi
it say's to use amplifier instead of hoc
lunar remnant
hollow plover
and if its about weakaura then which one exactly?
it's all about this weakaura: https://wago.io/9n9GqeQ6-
the reason he said this is because arms simply does not press execute when SD procs and it sucks
we need to prolong the duration of juggernaut and, by extension, we're holding sudden death procs with a few exceptions - this weakaura triggers for all of these conditional exceptions
so it literally tells us when to click execute
above 35% boss hp
dreamy valley
ty!
latent moss
hoooly goat wa maker
minor gust
🐐
worthy mortar
Last night i had 15 stacks of jugger on gallywix from start of the fight, man i legit was among top 3 dps, how it feels good its unbelivable but that was only that one time i had luck with procs..
hollow plover
Last night i had 15 stacks of jugger on gallywix from start of the fight, man i ...
amen
final dove
i got the mount named after me
hollow plover
i got the mount named after me
your name is gallywix?
spiral coral
I’ll remember one thing probably more than anything from this season
The soundtrack
Fuckin slaps
fresh spire
What does the g stand for
strange perch
Gurt
hazy flower
Pauck
void bay
Gary
sly haven
What's arms warrior rotation when there's a group of mob
thick kelp
cleave
dim basalt
The forbidden guide
tacit crystal
@sly haven
olive nest
wanton sierra
hey fellow arms, did we got some news? changes? omg the hype
sudden fox
That is a crazy gif
tacit lodge
first time i use my powers to delete
Can you delete mobs parrying too pls
fresh spire
daring heron
if only
inner wasp
Delete this
what was it i need to know ..
charred brook
Can you delete mobs parrying too pls
I got parried twice by darkness in Dfc last night while he was casting frontal
That is 100% the reason we didn’t time the 19 and I refuse to believe any other reason (we were missing count by 3% somehow)
tacit lodge
He’s literally a goo ball, how’s he gonna parry, smh
wanton sierra
Yeh battle cry no cd
HOPLY SHIET THATS INSANE ILL SPAM THAT SHIET
charred brook
I actually spam battle cry too much as it is
charred brook
wtf
I knew it was shout and I typed cry anyways because I saw it type above
It’s like when you look at something so your mind makes you steer towards it
daring heron
krispi mindcontrol
charred brook
Crit I have a question while your chatting
tacit lodge
Sleeper cells in arms chat, actual mage mains roleplaying
charred brook
Should I sweeping and wait for collateral damage before blowing cds on a pack in m+, or just send everything on pull
fresh spire
charred brook
Obviously given you haven’t stacked collateral pre pull
I’ve tried both but I’m only hitting like 70% on my high keys and I feel like I need to do more dmg
daring heron
Should I sweeping and wait for collateral damage before blowing cds on a pack in...
generally speaking if pack is already gathered then send everything, but if tank is gathering and you have time to safely pre-cook sweeping while tank is gathering, do it
tldr dont force it unless it's basically naturally lining up
charred brook
Okay that makes sense
I feel like I may be trying to do too much prio damage sometimes too
As weird as that sounds
We run phys comp so maybe I should just let the assassin rogue do his job but I end up sending a lot of MS on the prio target instead of spamming cleave
daring heron
not necessarily wrong but your overall will look worse
fresh spire
Surely we kill colat next patch 🙏
daring heron
Surely we kill colat next patch 🙏
i dont mind collat actually it's one of the things that help me stay awake in keys
ancient scroll
generally speaking if pack is already gathered then send everything, but if tan...
I think its worth even if pack is already gathered
daring heron
but ye i agree it probably doesn't belong
ancient scroll
can depend on the specific pull tho
daring heron
I think its worth even if pack is already gathered
i dont think it's worth, the payoff doesnt make up for the slow setup
fresh spire
i dont mind collat actually it's one of the things that help me stay awake in ke...
Sweep uptime and cringe ravager gaming is now your anti sleep pill
And sks
wanton sierra
i dont mind collat actually it's one of the things that help me stay awake in ke...
omg its so true!!
daring heron
sks makes me want to cry
ancient scroll
i dont think it's worth, the payoff doesnt make up for the slow setup
That was my initial thought too but I noticed a sizeable increase in dps when doing this
fresh spire
Tbh I could probably already test the 4p value just buy buffing bleeds 100% flat as shits always up anyway
fresh spire
That was my initial thought too but I noticed a sizeable increase in dps when do...
The pfp looks very polite
What is that dolphin scheming
daring heron
the 14.2 warrior rework
ancient scroll
wanton sierra
rework sks bro, put some different effects, procs idk.... the way that skill works fells so meh, cut its cgd i half
like: "sks will bleed your bleeds faster but also it will garantee crit on every dot ticcin'" and also 20 rage
or completally change it
shadow ibex
Sweep uptime and cringe ravager gaming is now your anti sleep pill
They can just add icd at least
I also like how they added a good version of sks to the tier
Instead of making sks not feel cheeks to press
inner wasp
i dont mind collat actually it's one of the things that help me stay awake in ke...
am i supposed to properly cook collateral damage or still send cleave on CD
the way ur talking abt it im supposed to be thinking somehow
but i dont think
daring heron
dont think just send
if it lines up almost naturally then maybe shift a global or two to make it happen
daring heron
idk lets say my sweep has 11s remaining and my rav/wb is ready
i'll do 2 more filler globals before sending rav wb so i get the overlap at the end
daring heron
either is fine just play different class
latent moss
its joever
fresh spire
Problem icd won't help it. Would just delay the ms after demolish
daring heron
yikes
fresh spire
We don't have rules for grinding gear in our guild (wr 350/400) region but if we see you slacking your ass ain't getting loot
inner wasp
yea if ur a raid tank and u don't do 8 keys weekly for first 10 weeks ur a shitter
i kinda don't wanna deal with it
but i don't trust other ppl to be as good of a tank as i am
inner wasp
like i am. all time goated tank. i clear liquid
tbh
but i don't wanna grind m+ if im crest capped
or slot capped
thick kelp
daring heron
grind never ends
shadow ibex
Problem icd won't help it. Would just delay the ms after demolish
Shut up
I can't take jt anymore
fresh spire
charred brook
I think its worth even if pack is already gathered
This is exactly why I asked lol
shadow ibex
They clearly can make it so an MS doesn't trigger sweeping at all
charred brook
I was watching my your vod
Because we run the same comp
And I was like shit am I missing out on damage
inner wasp
the brain off zug zug lifestyle is calling to me
maybe being a big responsible tank main is overrated
hexed snow
inner wasp
no ...
ancient scroll
Because we run the same comp
🫡
ancient scroll
And I was like shit am I missing out on damage
Not a shit ton but I am fairly confident it is a dps increase
A (very) rough rule of thumb is you never want to press ravager without having a big collat to send along with it
There's some nuance to doing this though, wouldn't reccomend 99% of people do it
shadow ibex
That's illegal
umbral gyro
hey is arms target capped?
dim basalt
hey is arms target capped?
TC has a hardcap, otherwise only softcaps
umbral gyro
TC has a hardcap, otherwise only softcaps
explain to me 😄
last inlet
explain to me 😄
only applies 5 rends
umbral gyro
ah ty
serene thicket
are yall beating your quick sim? im like .4-.5 off in 1:30 5 targest. Sim is getting much higher cleave damage even though I prio it. It's just odd that my mortal strike is higher and cleave is lower. I'm getting close to same number of cleave casts but 9-10 more mortal strikes
hollow plover
are yall beating your quick sim? im like .4-.5 off in 1:30 5 targest. Sim is ge...
90 sec window 5 targets, you're jsut asking for dummy variance
and did you properly account for raidbuffs ?
did you account for potion usage?
Bloodlust ?
serene thicket
yes! no buffs or pots besides battleshout. I'm generally about here. I realize I'm overcooking a little but getting frustrated underperforming when I think I'm pressing the right buttons. Maybe something w/ cleave.
latent moss
log it
serene thicket
I'm gonna delete all this think I'm wasting everyone's time w/o info
Ok, I'll get log setup
serene thicket
right on same number of casts, idgi.
we're not waiting for cleave when MS is up though right?
latent moss
cleave > ms > op
latent moss
sim plays for collat iirc
not sure which iteration is on raidbots
there were some cooked apls
max optimizations
but it should play for collat
like stacking 2 MP
ravager with mbg
hollow plover
I mean you say that now but going back like 6 weeks people kept saying "collat doesnt really matter"
or rather it doesnt matter enough
latent moss
i mean in an m+ pug its hard to time it properly right
latent moss
and holding rava or smth too long will be a loss most likely
or at best not worth the effort
latent moss
the opportunity presents itself at times
ye if you can align it you absolutely should
we can stack so many modifiers on top of a collat cleave its crazy
hollow plover
ikr
mbg itself already makes cleave crit for multiple millions
add warbreaker, ava, etc
shit gets crazy real fast
latent moss
ep should be a buff and cleave should be capable of consuming it 
serene thicket
Idk how you play around MBG, aren't you just cleaving anyway
latent moss
dire consequences for gameplay
colossus pressing exe without ct
rage bar destruction
latent moss
Idk how you play around MBG, aren't you just cleaving anyway
yes but u want to prepare for a collat cleave
u want to stack all modifiers
op twice for mp mbg warbreaker avatar (if its up) demolish
obv it depends on how big the collat is
if its like 5 stacks i wouldnt bother
if its 18 i absolutely would
serene thicket
i think i wasnt OPing twice before the collat cleave
latent moss
juicy
keep in mind its softcapped to 5t
so damage falls off insanely hard
at many targets
do NOT look at the ap% scaling on arms spells
and we are still mid
serene thicket
got it so you want tthe collat cleave 2x OP and going off during the ravager
serene thicket
ok, the way i do the opener: cleave, clap, roar, avatar, sweeping, ravager, warbreaker, cleave/MS, demolish
the ravager ends before the collat. are you all holding the ravager in the opener?
hollow plover
ok, the way i do the opener: cleave, clap, roar, avatar, sweeping, ravager, warb...
ava too early
serene thicket
sweep -> ava then? i was doing that before but wowhead made me 2nd guess just now
hollow plover
think about what u get when u ava roar, when u ava sweep, when u ava warbreaker or ava ravager
at 5 targets of course
serene thicket
sweep, rav, warbreaker, ava?
hollow plover
which ava choice node are u running
serene thicket
warlord's torment
hollow plover
then u wanna ava late
so the recklessness is actually useful
ur just kinda wasting 4 gcds of recklessness
with what u did
serene thicket
wait, now im seeing all the top players going blademaster on murloc io
serene thicket
ur just kinda wasting 4 gcds of recklessness
got you
hollow plover
wait, now im seeing all the top players going blademaster on murloc io
yea cuz its more consistent aoe less ST
shadow ibex
Just gotta be careful with use order or you can cancel the blademaster swee0
serene thicket
go on, it won't add on to the existing? tested and it does so im missing something
I beat the sim number thank you all for your help! time to est in keys and start logging
quaint tartan
if you press wrecking throw when there's barely any absorb left on an absorb shield, does the 500% damage increase get capped? or will it go into the enemy's actual health too?
plush smelt
I had one of those this weekend, hit a 23 collat stack perfect synced into warbraker, ravager, avatar+trinket, and demolish cds. I felt like a god for once
terse osprey
Should arms still be using circes circlet or can i swap it out?
hollow plover
if you press wrecking throw when there's barely any absorb left on an absorb shi...
It breaks the shield. Think about it this way: In arenas, warriors tend to grab wrecking throw to insta break life cocoon - they arent holding until life cocoon is almost depleted to then chunk their hp, they simply pop the cocoon and go on with their life
maiden briar
what is this addon called?
tacit crystal
it is a weakaura
maiden briar
what is the weakaura called? :))
tacit crystal
maiden briar
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148898720803586048/1351560780360...
thanks sir!
hollow plover
thanks sir!
dont "sir" gio, it will get to his head and his ego will inflate
maiden briar
gotcha, new to warrior and this disc will take some time to recognize people. gio is herby just that guy
olive nest
hit em with a Ma'am instead
latent moss
dont "sir" gio, it will get to his head and his ego will inflate
cro....
rip gio
(galastronk)
minor gust
Five seven
olive nest
Five six
tacit crystal
minor gust
alrdy got a stam gem for that sick 2% more move speed
I am fast
No swirlie kills me
minor gust
Im always a firm believer in move speed best stat for a melee
stable fiber
it is
hollow plover
it absolutely is
stable fiber
oh
magic canopy
magic canopy
gem and frenzied do not stack
ancient scroll
I had one of those this weekend, hit a 23 collat stack perfect synced into warbr...
W
magic canopy
hitbox might just be fucked. but you sure did stand right next to it lmao
hollow plover
hitbox might just be fucked. but you sure did stand right next to it lmao
something something im not in danger, i am the danger
whats the point of having accurate hitboxes when the accurate hitboxes arent accurate
minor gust
gem and frenzied do not stack
damn didnt know that one get fucked fury
slow ass bitch
hollow plover
and i couldnt even fucking ping myself
magic canopy
trusting vfx to match hitboxes 2026 edition
hollow plover
trusting vfx to match hitboxes 2026 edition
the entire point of the visual rework was so we can start trusting hitboxes
am i wrong ?
tardy heron
am I just missing something? reap the storm says when MS (or cleave) hits 3+ targets it has 20% chance to proc reap the storm. How do you hit 3+ targets with MS, SS only gives 1 extra target. Or does this really only proc of cleave
broken arrow
3 target requirement is only for cleave
arctic iris
Yeah, it's not "when MS or cleave hit 3 or more targets"
It's "MS (always) and cleave (when it hits three or more targets)"
tardy heron
ooooh got it ty lmao
boreal marsh
Hey, I'm new to the Arms Warrior. I apologize if this question has been asked before. How does it work with Sweeping Strikes in M+? From how many enemies is SS + Mortal Strike used and from how many is Cleave preferred? Or is SS always kept on CD to get the buff for Cleave?
hollow plover
Hey, I'm new to the Arms Warrior. I apologize if this question has been asked be...
cleave > ms > op for 3 or more targets
regardless of sweeping strikes
ms > op > cleave for 2 targets
in ST you only ever press cleave when collateral damage is stacked
and u preferably press with with other cleave modifiers so u can crit cleave for like 8mil dmg in single target
latent moss
ballshd
boreal marsh
Thank you @hollow plover
bronze tangle
A question on Big Big Pulls: Isn't Cleave/OP/MS better? To empower the Cleaves and take advantage of Dreadnaught's talent?
crude plinth
I'm pretty much full geared fury right now with stats focused on Mastery>haste, would it be super bad to change to arms for higher m+ keys without crit stacked gear? Should I try to get gear with crit stats before doing so even if it's hero track dropping down my ilvl? :S
minor gust
you will be fine secondaries barely matter just craft one crit ring or neck and swap over
tacit crystal
A question on Big Big Pulls: Isn't Cleave/OP/MS better? To empower the Cleaves a...
dn doesnt do as much as you think it does and ms does a lot
crude plinth
you will be fine secondaries barely matter just craft one crit ring or neck and ...
Really? So I'd see a massive dps increase with like 10-15% crit only in 2nd stat?
minor gust
wdym by increase like increase from going fury to arms?
obtuse eagle
what power should i put in the belt?
timber vector
what keeps proccing these random bladestorms that I keep insta cancelling
edgy canyon
ask zath
edgy canyon
always W zath
static trench
Trying to go back to Fury after playing Arms isn’t enjoyable.
plucky mortar
Trying to go back to Fury after playing Arms isn’t enjoyable.
Good
Stay on the right path
crude plinth
Trying to go back to Fury after playing Arms isn’t enjoyable.
How so?
grand idol
I find the opposite, performance differences aside. The constant micro managing of arms cooldowns/buffs gets to be a bit tedious.
earnest imp
for blademasters torment do you have to allow it 2 fall off before using SS?
dire hinge
nah it stacks with the existing buff (extends it)
earnest imp
dont you want the cleave proc damage twice or no? build it up really big?
rare kite
you get a bigger cleave buff with a longer ss duration
earnest imp
guess that checks out
grand idol
If you activate real ss before blademasters it extends it. If you activate blademasters first, and have generated any stacks, it replaces it and gives you the stacks that you have generated to use.
vernal flame
Hey I have a question, when you have a good amount of cleave stacks, do you try to maximize it as much as you can with like OP, warbreaker and such or you just send and go asap to next one?
grand idol
Generally speaking, missing cleaves to hold a powered up cleave is a loss. But you have to make your own judgement call based on the situation you are in and the one coming up. It would be wasteful to send a powered up cleave on three targets knowing you are about to pull 10 targets soon.
vernal flame
Generally speaking, missing cleaves to hold a powered up cleave is a loss. But y...
Thanks, does it also apply to like say you have one OP available and maybe warbreaker up in like 5-6 GCD, do you send cleave or wait a bit (let's say pack will be the same once warbreaker up)
grand idol
Op is usually worth it, I try to remember to make my last globals of SS op when I can. But it all depends on the situation. Personally, I would wait 5~ seconds to line up an empowered cleave with warbreaker but I could also see it argued the other way.
vernal flame
Op is usually worth it, I try to remember to make my last globals of SS op when ...
Thanks for the answers
crude plinth
This is my secondaries coming from almost full geared fury to arms, I just swapped to try it out without recrafting my gear first, the dps was ok (was doing slayer m+ talents) I'm just wondering how much more dps diff are we talking if getting more crit? 😒
balmy kindle
Hmm you can try simming but it's unlikely to be a super big difference
crude plinth
Hmm you can try simming but it's unlikely to be a super big difference
Maybe I'm just not super good at it yet the dps was fine dont get me wrong but my fury dealt way more :p
Gonna try the colossus m+ build now
okokok holy shit colossus was a big diff
rare kite
okokok holy shit colossus was a big diff
ye colossus very strong. gonna be even stronger once you get some more crit, colossus loves crit
balmy kindle
But low crit does make Colo worse since more crits = faster build up of Colo might and cooldowns too, might wanna get dem rings
crude plinth
Yeah 100% I was gonna try it see if i like it before i recraft its definitely good
balmy kindle
Definitely wanna crit on demo though, trucks with all the modifiers
grand idol
Crit, and I speak from experience, helps smooth out demolish resets immensely. I was having a lot of trouble with it desyncing from warbreaker and then changed my jewelry to crit and that problem mostly went away.
wintry scroll
Guys do u press cleave on 2 targets or do u just Full single target and wait for sweeping ?
rare kite
Guys do u press cleave on 2 targets or do u just Full single target and wait for...
Yea you cleave on 2t. Ms>op >cleave
golden ibex
Do you guys think there is any chance slayer becomes the m+ specc next patch, or will it remain the single target thing?
eager sigil
doubt anything will change
slow saddle
Col 4p is big aoe
So i think col stays m+
Unless we actually c tuning // an actual rework
Closest to rework was df where we got sweepin strikes baseline🤣
minor gust
WW reap procs when
fresh spire
Slayer has good constant aoe with the new 4p. But that requires bladestorm to set up overwhelmed stacks for overpower to proc reap. Cleave>op cycling is pretty strong when op is reaping.
But for most part it's likely gonna still be too clunky and rng reliant
Where colossus 4p just fits well into what it does already. Just makes everything better
minor gust
if you could reliably align BS and WB together more would feel better in keys
golden ibex
Yeah I must admit while I over all enjoy arms warrior it could do with a face lift . I wish colossus smash kinda worked like the new frost dk breath
fresh spire
We are over due a fix up
We haven't had any significant tree changes since .5 s1 dragonflight
balmy kindle
Praying for new mastery
balmy kindle
Please a mastery that interacts with 
I beg
fresh spire
balmy kindle
Blizz : ok guys have bfa deep wounds
balmy kindle
Best class fantasy
calm hollow
100% sks locked in
fuck sks, delete that button
formal verge
Sks was fun in Df s2 the dopamine seeing an entire health bar or two with sweeping just get instant nuked. Hasn’t been fun since tho
Tho that was for keys
fresh spire
Imagine they made the 4p explode all bleeds instead with sks but didn't consume the bleeds
storm lark
replace sks with condemn, class fixed
latent moss
replace fatality with condemn
minor gust
Amen
sacred zodiac
@fresh spire
grim haven
shadow ibex
Idk what they can give sks if they want it to be bleed shit
4pc would be perfect but it's already 4pc
Rend extension on ms crits would help
hoary trail
restarting my war arm and got like 634ilvl, is the class always that boring or will it be better with some haste 😢 please tell me its just a matter of haste
hollow plover
restarting my war arm and got like 634ilvl, is the class always that boring or w...
arms is only boring if you don't know how to play arms
cause making mistakes leaves you rage starved
bronze shuttle
Is it worth rending slightly outside pandemic window if it means u don't have to cast it during smash?
hollow plover
Is it worth rending slightly outside pandemic window if it means u don't have to...
elaborate
you mean pre-emptively clickign rend?
to refresh
or what
bronze shuttle
elaborate
im not sure how to elaborate, which part of the question don't you understand?
hollow plover
pandemic
bronze shuttle
pandemic
Pandemic is the thing with dots where if u refresh it whilst it still has like 30% remaining the remaining duration gets added to the new dot
so rend duration is 20s, if u press rend with 4s left on ur current rend, rends new duration is 24s
thick kelp
Is it worth rending slightly outside pandemic window if it means u don't have to...
doesnt matter
hoary trail
I just like how the buttons feel when I press them
Quite feel the opposite. Arms feel way more heavier in term of animation. i feel like playing a truck
hollow plover
yea doesnt matter
bronze shuttle
By doesn't matter do u mean it doens't matter if u refresh rend inside smash?
hollow plover
Quite feel the opposite. Arms feel way more heavier in term of animation. i feel...
I feel this on larger races
yea
bronze shuttle
ok
static trench
I play Female Panda with a polearm. The animations are incredible.
hollow plover
By doesn't matter do u mean it doens't matter if u refresh rend inside smash?
the dps lost from refreshing too early is about equal to the dps gained from an extra gcd inside cs
thats the idea kinda
hoary trail
I feel this on larger races
I mean probably the only one that plays blood elf warr. I guess there is a reason why ahaha
lucid thicket
Quite feel the opposite. Arms feel way more heavier in term of animation. i feel...
Because you aren't swinging oversized noodles around
blissful tree
maybe we are getting heavy handed
urban iron
Quite feel the opposite. Arms feel way more heavier in term of animation. i feel...
I think that’s the design intent
Slow, heavy swings that make booms
Vs five fingers of fire fury gameplay
latent moss
5 big booms arms
umbral gyro
Hey hows arms looking on ptr?
teal fossil
Same as this patch
balmy kindle
No announcement yet
tacit crystal
boom
balmy kindle
I mean probably the only one that plays blood elf warr. I guess there is a reaso...
Human and elf sword animations are the best imo, orcs and the large races are better with mace and axes
Orcs be like swinging 🗡️ like a bat
misty bridge
how cooked am I if I say delete avatar and bake it into CS, and the removing roots and add it to a with Berserkers shout, Piercing howl choice node and make it a triple node 👍
Could also make SkS a passive and add it to CS.
weak rain
Human and elf sword animations are the best imo, orcs and the large races are be...
I like elf polearm animation, I think it's the only race that changes stance with polearms
celest forge
Having the tank decide to move the boss only after I start casting demolish makes me want to throw my monitor out a window
tacit crystal
go faster or wait more lol
celest forge
Hmm yes I need the tank mind reading tinker slot on my helm
weak rain
Having the tank decide to move the boss only after I start casting demolish make...
I believe in "tanks set focus on warriors and start moving the boss the moment we start casting demo" conspiracy
celest forge
I believe in "tanks set focus on warriors and start moving the boss the moment w...
This is right up there with the "AH mount players stare at their screen to move away the second you start using them" as the truest things ever said
weak rain
fr fr
teal fossil
how cooked am I if I say delete avatar and bake it into CS, and the removing roo...
So let’s bake 3 cds into 1
And have that cd have 60% uptime
Surely won’t have balance issues
weak rain
I feel like avatar is boring, let it be prot "burst"(and thane), arms/fury should have different bursts(Fury has reck already, it can be tweaked, arms could use revamped deadly calm, or mop bloodbath, w/e)
misty bridge
Surely won’t have balance issues
Vibes>balance
strange perch
<@456226577798135808> 2pacuk
raven talon
Is dinar quest not popping up?
gleaming cosmos
WoWHead guide doesn't really talk about slayer opener for keys, is below mostly right except it would be charge > cleave > rend > roar > ava/warbreaker > cleave >bladestorm?
proud rivet
when is the new season
calm hollow
around aug 6
heavy heron
WoWHead guide doesn't really talk about slayer opener for keys, is below mostly ...
depends if you go in a pack with high collateral stacks
if so delay the cleave iirc
latent moss
WoWHead guide doesn't really talk about slayer opener for keys, is below mostly ...
yeah cause slayer is a meme in keys ngl
gleaming cosmos
Im so bad at Arms I may as well have fun with bladestorm (:
gleaming cosmos
Checking I understand prio for ST correctly (raid talents), in execute am I just mainly 2x exe > bladestorm or MC?
Execute to main jug > 2x precision Blade > 2x Precision MC > tactician overpower and otherwise just execute?
dim basalt
Execute to main jug > 2x precision Blade > 2x Precision MC > tactician overpower...
If MC is MS, yes
shadow ibex
Opportunist proc withless than 2 MP > MS with x2 EP > opp proc with 0-1 MP > execute
Don't think missed anything obvious
plush smelt
Am i stupid or is opp proc with less thsn x2 MP and opp proc with 0-1 MP the same thing
plush smelt
Im just commenting that the prio order he put is repetitive if thats the case
shadow ibex
Just don't get 3 martial prowess stacks
plush smelt
Er overpower with opp proc
Wait you changed it back to the original msg thats the samr thing
shadow ibex
Less than 2 stacks of MP technically it's highest prio.
plush smelt
Im going fucking senile
shadow ibex
At 2 you would no longer react to it
plush smelt
No i know
Im saying
“Opp proc with less than 2 MP” = “Op proc with 0-1 MP”
Its the same statement reworded
timber vector
if playing key build w/o executioner's precision are you supposed to just ignore MS in execute
shadow ibex
You ignore execute in execute
With no ep or jugg or crit thinking or cruel strikes there isn't really a reason to use execute in execute unless every other button is unavailable
Granted those every other button is only 2 other buttons MS and OP but with tact and EB you don't execute much
vast drum
I see people are playing arms for OAB now, if my guild is progging and adds are an issue sometimes should I still go arms or stick with fury? Im comfortable with either and have gear for both so idc
tacit crystal
mhm
true mason
not intending it to go anywhere, but does /simc not open ingame for anyone else if the Static Charge (vers) choice is selected on the Durable Container new-belt?
just an odd thing
shadow ibex
I see people are playing arms for OAB now, if my guild is progging and adds are ...
Prog is prog I played fury for that same reason
But that was deadass months ago
It shouldn't an issue now
true mason
it opens up if ANY other choice is selected, but if i choose Static Charge i get nothing from /simc - can't tell if this is a silly bug or if i'm losing my shit
hoary trail
Hey guys two question: Starting how many target is it better to focus on padding with "cleave"; Second question is there an amount of target when while having sweeping strikes up it is still better to use mortal strike rather than cleave
shadow ibex
its not really an either/or with cleave and MS
you are going to use them both in aoe
hoary trail
yea but if both are up what should i prio I mean
shadow ibex
3+ cleave
hoary trail
ty
wintry scroll
does anyone know what that dmmg addon that critcake uses like something SCT
i had it but i forgot the name
and i couldn't find it
shadow ibex
do you want another keybind or not
wintry scroll
i do use both
im just wondering
in keys i usually rend ms on opener
and i only tc if 2targets +
im wondering if tc does more dmmg even in ST
nova coral
Quick question guys 🙂 I got this stat breakdown and gear. In numbers its 18944 crit, 17053 Haste, 8207 Mastery and like 777 vers.
Mainly for m+ would you swap some stats around to more mastery? I am rather new on warrior and playing in 16-17 so maybe you got some advice for me
wintry scroll
do you want another keybind or not
i already have 1 extra lol
dim basalt
Quick question guys 🙂 I got this stat breakdown and gear. In numbers its 18944 ...
Just sim
fresh spire
gaunt owl
oak quartz
new 11.2 ptr patch, warrior tuning: none 😂
dim basalt
karmic reef
fresh spire
gaunt owl
i think they are waiting to the very last moment
waiting for nothing to happen
gusty nymph
We are too good
gaunt owl
i need to shower my schnekr
can you guys bury warrior for good in the meantime
who need this game anyway
shadow ibex
minor gust
gaunt owl
minor gust
I'm gonna honest there's not much in this weeks patch notes besides fdk
shadow ibex
surely unannounced secret warrior stuff in july
sly haven
Is it better to play action mode
prime bramble
minor gust
Yeah cuz Blizz refuses to give them a raid buff and thinks single grip is good
random ridge
minor gust
Doesn't change the fact you will only ever bring a bdk and never a dps dk
shadow ibex
ctrl F warrior and getting that windows nothing is here my guy noise
sudden fox
They wont change juggernaut
At least the combat visual slider will be a good change 😂
nova marsh
Guys is class design cooked again next season
shadow ibex
frost DK tree seems so insane
so many paths and shit actually seems bad
and so many things do so many things, but you cant have it all
oak quartz
Yeah cuz Blizz refuses to give them a raid buff and thinks single grip is good
raid buff? dk have too many utility
minor gust
shadow ibex
there is so much rime shit now
lol
maybe we can get valor in victory removed at least
last saddle
bc they arent touching warrior what class should i play next phase (that isn't warrior)
I already have shaman monk evoker dk pally priest at 80 so id prefer one of those but levelling isnt very hard so i coul try something new
ig the answer is DH to try the new spec...
minor gust
Anything can happen between now and launch play what looks cool
sour forge
Ret
rare kite
I already have shaman monk evoker dk pally priest at 80 so id prefer one of thos...
Shaman. Very well designed class
sour forge
Hammer of light spam is cool
cedar sparrow
How is ARMS performing on PTR right now?
sour forge
I like execute spam
minor gust
There's no keys or raid testing yet and no tuning no point in looking at performance right now
sour forge
Only m0
cedar sparrow
dorki done a +12 right now
sour forge
Hmm? Coulda sworn they didn’t have keys yet
minor gust
Then they literally just turned on key testing
Either way still no point in looking at performance
cedar sparrow
Yeahr you can buy them m+ keys right now
minor gust
Ask again closer to launch
sour forge
We’re months out
cedar sparrow
yeahr let´s see what will come and "when"
halcyon valve
nothing ever happens
quartz adder
Can you still get the chrono mount from timewalk fast? Or is that fixed?
olive nest
Hey guys how is arms looking for patch 14.1?
compact geyser
is kezan worth taking at this point in the tier ? my sim says its 1.4% upgrade and 8/8m but how many fights actually give it full value these days
echo tendon
check your logs and see how fast your group is killing then sim that duration
olive nest
id take it if you have nothing better to grab anyway
rare kite
is kezan worth taking at this point in the tier ? my sim says its 1.4% upgrade a...
if you're still reclearing raid it's worth for gally and mugzee
dull karma
Is Archie really stopping the Theorycrafting for warrior?
ivory harbor
I hope not, why did you say that?
dull karma
I heard about it through a friend, and he is usually right on these things
dim basalt
Even if, he is not the only theorycrafter
fresh spire
first time i heard of this
rare kite
Is Archie really stopping the Theorycrafting for warrior?
@smoky kayak hmh?
hollow plover
I heard about it through a friend, and he is usually right on these things
first time hearing this
archi is a massive contribution to the warrior cause, i'd hate to see him step back
fresh spire
(hes not going anywhere)
ivory harbor
(hes not going anywhere)
Really hope this is true 🙏🏻
charred brook
anybody got the BiS macro
spiral coral
I heard about it through a friend, and he is usually right on these things
bro got me worked up
dull karma
Sorry for the false alarmed then.. I was just as shooked when I heard it
steel gate
Sorry for the false alarmed then.. I was just as shooked when I heard it
I still choose to believe it
sour forge
Imagine warrior down so bad Archie swaps to ret/dk
steel gate
there should be a theorycrafter exchange program. Let archie do shadow priest for a tier and publik does warrior
sour forge
Y
rain cipher
there should be a theorycrafter exchange program. Let archie do shadow priest fo...
Why?
steel gate
why not
rain cipher
What’s the context?
steel gate
no need for context. Good ideas stand on their own
sour forge
The class knowledge wouldn’t be the same
Would probably having a bunch of growing pains for a bit
dire hinge
i tried to cast a spell once as a mage and the wand slipped through my calloused finger tips like fine gossamer 
steel gate
couldn't be me. I'm quite adept handling small cylindrical objects with my hands
spiral coral
if porom started writing for warrior….
final dove
I have a question https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9Ea31nkCWYjBpZ9rCzTx2a for my sims it just shows me using a blash gem and then all vers haste gems [ since the belt chance ] but wouldnt it be better to quick diff gems in each socket to enchance the blash even though the sim shows otherwise?
minor gust
if I click on this sim it better be a move speed blasph gem
minor gust
I have a question https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9Ea31nkCWYjBpZ9rCzTx2a ...
make sure you have always used clicked for blasph gems and switch to the move speed one while your at it the crit is negligible
