im not saying that last bosses need to be litterally hitler 500+ pulls mega bosses
#arms
olive nest
For the literal best teams in the world I agree that 60 is too easy
shy tide
200-250 if youre inting
olive nest
For the rest of us 100-200 is more than enough
Especially when a lot of guilds raid 6 hours a week
dim basalt
More than 150 is really tough for less hardcore kills
slow saddle
Also tindral had grand finale
shy tide
worst part about gallywix is that 80% of your wipes were in P1 if you werent inting
slow saddle
So did jailor
shy tide
and then the boss falls over
hybrid canopy
Gally mostly is my reasoning cause they love to follow up a meme like gally with a satanic tier difficulty wise I feel
slow saddle
Gally had nothing
slow saddle
I was waiting for him to get into some mega bot on mythic
shy tide
because 80% of those wipe are in the first 3-4 minutes
slow saddle
In last phase
shy tide
and then the boss falls over in the last 10 pulls
shy tide
slow saddle
The further u got the harder it got
hybrid canopy
because 80% of those wipe are in the first 3-4 minutes
And the majority of those wipes is the only hard overlap in the fight, getting to the canister soaks after baiting the second to last bomb orb beam 
shy tide
yeah the frontal into soak was pretty rough for the first soak guys
to get there in time
hybrid canopy
Yeah defo
shy tide
even with warlock gates/mages
hybrid canopy
We had like 3 locks at the time I think on prog
Still tough
But yeah after that it was piss
shy tide
i love gally
hybrid canopy
Lmaooooo
shy tide
like this boss couldve been goated if something happend in p2 or p3
idk what tho
boss is cool visually
shy tide
jump down the floor
olive nest
Ngl hole jump would have been pretty sick
shy tide
delete current P3 of gally
olive nest
Jump in you got 60 seconds to burn or something random
shy tide
put in the fcking slide
hybrid canopy
Everyone thought there would be a secret mythic phase in that hole and then it just died in rwf and everyone was like wat
slow saddle
Ye end bosses must have grand final moment on mythic imho
shy tide
more like the grand lullaby on gally
shy tide
no but ansurek was a menance
hybrid canopy
My favorite part was when the giga coils enrage ramping damage cast started and they're about to kill it and max is sitting there bewildered as fuck that they're actually about to kill it
With I think like 2 dps dead for over a min
shy tide
giga coils is a very generous name for that enrage cast
hybrid canopy
Whatever it was called idr 
shy tide
no i mean its called giga coils
but it might aswell have been called tiny coils with how little dmg it did
shy tide
nah im just upset with how the last part of gally turned out
hybrid canopy
It was p lame
hybrid canopy
hybrid canopy
Yup
shy tide
7:30 kill time goes pretty hard
olive nest
You ready for the 15 minute final boss
shy tide
im also pissed that the car isnt a mount you can use everywhere else
what a fucked up day
sharp wyvern
tindrall balls but its an insta death
hybrid canopy
Pog
sharp wyvern
last boss with dragonriding
sharp wyvern
cant wait for the memes
hybrid canopy
shy tide
i like how all the flavour tooltips on the intermission are, horribly disfugers kills maims and destroys the player
sharp wyvern
everyone on their gally mounts
slow saddle
Heroic pugs
sharp wyvern
its gotta be a sight
hybrid canopy
i like how all the flavour tooltips on the intermission are, horribly disfugers ...
Is this dimensius
shy tide
ye
hybrid canopy
Big
sharp wyvern
its the only suitable mount to use cause it got guns
the hitbox on that mount is gonna be funny i bet
slow saddle
Imma use the broomstick🤣
shy tide
shy tide
griefing the entire fight for one dmg amp moment
slow saddle
100%
shy tide
bro i gotta hit this demolish
dim basalt
Surely good timer for us so we dont need to grief
sharp wyvern
not just the demolish but also the 2 MS afterwards
shy tide
slayer presses 5 executes and is ahead of you
olive nest
bro i gotta hit this demolish
Preach it
shy tide
the dmg slayer does with execute atm is not ethical
sharp wyvern
just get 5 SD procs lol
shy tide
problem is
dim basalt
Didnt we do more damage with exe in S1?
slow saddle
Yeah so unlessnits 35%
dim basalt
%-wise
shy tide
and barely go out of rage
and it hits as hard as a 2EP 2OP MS
with WF youre mashing that button
slow saddle
I mean if slayer fucks with exe in fine as well
shy tide
all tiersets are stupidthis tier
slow saddle
🤣
shy tide
i think thats the point
olive nest
I hope they let us be stupidly overpowered
dim basalt
Slayer is stupid in a bad way though
shy tide
last patch and all
dim basalt
And compared to enh sb we are dog
olive nest
Except it’s your abilites instead of corruptions
slow saddle
Still think col might take tge cske
shy tide
yeah but enha tier is actually silly combined with the evoker one
33% uptime on ascendance from 2p
dim basalt
What boots
shy tide
lego cloak boots
olive nest
Optional boss drops boots that makes cloak better
shy tide
just get it from vault
dim basalt
hmm
shy tide
its bonus loot tho
shy tide
so it shouldnt be too bad to get for multiple people
olive nest
Heroic boots gamer
Don’t worry you’ll get the myth version out of last vault of the expact
Type shi
olive nest
Wrist belt probably
slow saddle
But belt we got
olive nest
Depends what embellish we use
slow saddle
Ah true belt isnt that strong
I mean im not hightier raider
So scendance
Prob early
olive nest
Well, that’s a good point not sure because of delve belt
slow saddle
Or its bracer + what ever u can get on crafted ring
olive nest
I don’t think Dawn/dusk can go on jewelry unless I’ve just been warrior brain this whole time
slow saddle
Nah
But theres the gem thingy for st
If belt is to strong
Not like dusk is good anymore
As it doesnt scale
slow saddle
🤣
olive nest
Lmfao
shy tide
But theres the gem thingy for st
everyone should craft the companionship ring
🤓
not gonna happen tho
slow saddle
True
shy tide
every warrior should probably craft it for M+
probably more vallueable to give your stats to the other classes in your dungeon
olive nest
shadow ibex
Die warrior die
shadow ibex
I hate that they refuse to address the problem
We hate jug so let's make tier set to proc slayer strike
Instead of we hate jug let's fix it
candid pecan
why did this make me laugh..
dim basalt
DW damage go stonks
inner wasp
why did this make me laugh..
hope this makes it to live
shadow ibex
I'm surprised they don't make it passive
olive nest
Got me to chuckle too
shadow ibex
It's gonna have 100% uptime if it's ant ms crit
weak rain
Do you think we will play arterial bleed less cleaves/more mortal strikes build in m+?
it'd be fun
olive nest
Probably will be a a lot more MS focused M+ builds yeah
Not sure if cleave will be completely ruled out though
dim basalt
New dh spec damn
weak rain
I don't think it ll be ruled out, still good damage and big source of DW
weak rain
New dh spec damn
Shadowcleave when
shadow ibex
Impossible to phase out cleave
shy tide
We hate jug so let's make tier set to proc slayer strike
well this gives you so many slayer strikes
that it temporarly fixes jug
which is kinda funny
weak rain
I feel like slayer with that tier set would be so funny, especially with high haste
just press execute op
no time for MS
wintry scroll
guys do u send demolish on cd or u try to get it with warbreaker
broken arrow
100% chance it might be next expac
shadow ibex
rework soon <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
Why we are only class that can't be listened to idk
Dks get a fuckin evoker spell
shy tide
because arms is still functional
shadow ibex
Before we get literally anything to adjust the gameplay in the base kit
Just keep pushing jt back let a tier set fix it
Rework next patch for sure
weak rain
I mean tier set actually might fix some issues
now unfuck roar
my concern about slayer is that you might want to press MS as lowest priority(over exe/OP i mean) or at full buffs
though
colo looks amazing
floral ledge
shadow ibex
The colossus set should make the two boosted MS generate extra demo stacks
weak rain
yea, instantly 4 stacks
with this tier set MS just should be n1 prio in every situation
gaunt owl
The colossus set should make the two boosted MS generate extra demo stacks
it kinda does in a sense 😄
remember that every tier set that had too much interaction got shredded before launch
weak rain
50% arterial bleed 100% tier 10% bloodborne
shadow ibex
Just to speed up frequency between demo casts
weak rain
for fucks sake, prot has 1 point bloodborne with 25% dmg, fury 20% 1 point, arms 10%, 5% per point
like what
sour forge
Fury bleed is relatively low uptime
nimble yoke
every class should get a new spec 
give us weird shit
weak rain
void warrior, shadowcleave
sharp wyvern
sounds more like a hero spec to me
sour forge
2h+shield
nimble yoke
tbf it'd have more personality than the existing specsl ol
warr probably has the least personality in its specs
sharp wyvern
what does personality mean
nimble yoke
like theme
sharp wyvern
execute isnt a theme ?
nimble yoke
execute is on all specs
sharp wyvern
but ours is called execute
sharp wyvern
no idea what that means
is demolish spec fantasy?
nimble yoke
and I haven't played in a month or two but in dungeons (which is all I play) I very rarely pressed execute as either fury or arms
nimble yoke
no idea what that means
is demolish spec fantasy?
yea i'd say big meaty hits are good arms theme
nimble yoke
yes i know
i think warrior is also kinda the hardest to make specs feel thematically different because it's guy with sword(s)
but i found other classes specs feel more unique to each other
shy tide
my concern about slayer is that you might want to press MS as lowest priority(ov...
fyi currently on ptr fully stacked jug hits as hard as 2EP 2OP MS
and thats not counting the slayer strike
shadow ibex
They could give us blademaster
shy tide
you are pressing execute over MS if you can at 40+ rage since its better for cdr
sharp wyvern
They could give us blademaster
monk already has the clones
shadow ibex
If it's shadowlands exe I might cry
weak rain
you are pressing execute over MS if you can at 40+ rage since its better for cdr
KEKW, so MS is dw/rend generator in exe phase
shadow ibex
Gotta get a deep wounds tracker
shadow ibex
monk already has the clones
Idc they can just say blademaster changed in the 20 years we've seen them
sharp wyvern
ngl i rather play slayer than having skullsplitter on my bars
nimble yoke
deadass I don't want it at all but a banner/shout based support might be the most thematic one to me
fickle dock
The colossus set is going to give MS some absurd crits, can't wait 😄
candid pecan
tried the new set on the PTR, hitting 5 dummies for 3 minutes with Arterial bleed (cause why not), LOOK AT ROAR, what happened??? 
lethal acorn
I hope the Colossus s3 set makes the hero tree more viable for Arms in raid!
reef glade
pepelaugh he didn’t read the slayer set
lethal acorn
ngl i rather play slayer than having skullsplitter on my bars
I think sks is fine but just for raid build, feels awful for m+
lethal acorn
pepelaugh he didn’t read the slayer set
Slayer one looks crazy too but I'm not touching that hero tree, I love demolish
weak rain
slayer set is 15% i think
inner wasp
i like slayer i love execute
sharp wyvern
the slayer strikes after SD are juicy
inner wasp
i like bladestorm cuz it opens up a hand for sippy mid-pull
sharp wyvern
but stormbolt
inner wasp
the design is very human
sharp wyvern
lethal acorn
I like ravager because I can keep pressing buttons
I wish Arms got that bloodborne change that Prot did, I want my bleeds to bleed
real birch
Heya 🙂 can I trigger a bomb or taunt the tank hit as arms at mug'zee? Nah, right?
lethal acorn
Die by the sword gives 100% parry but it has to be an auto attack, in the halls of valor dungeon you can facetank the wolf boss if you get picked by the fixate without running with DBtS
real birch
not with that attitude
;D
rare kite
Heya 🙂 can I trigger a bomb or taunt the tank hit as arms at mug'zee? Nah, righ...
you can prob trigger a bomb with defensives. i haven't tried tho
real birch
Nah someone told me to just use reflect or dbts ^^
silk spade
Heya 🙂 can I trigger a bomb or taunt the tank hit as arms at mug'zee? Nah, righ...
on mythic?
slow saddle
I think sks is fine but just for raid build, feels awful for m+
I think opposite i n m+ st situation sending a sks after a demo fucks
stable fiber
I thought journal straight up says fatal
journal says fatal, but the tooltip above also says around 40 million damage
pretty sure we had tanks soak them on our kill
like the mines only do 3.6m on heroic
wanton sierra
slayer set is 15% i think
how much for colossus?
weak rain
how much for colossus?
Idk, I haven't simmed yet, Is there even apl for that? It was just a speculation, slayer set is insane, 20% extra dmg for exe and op already is very insane
fresh spire
tried the new set on the PTR, hitting 5 dummies for 3 minutes with Arterial blee...
always has been trash, might see spear taking off next patch with the stacking of 100% crits amped bleeds etc
silk spade
On mythic it's fatal damage right
it's livable if you have massive dr
only some non tank specs can do it tho
wanton sierra
Idk, I haven't simmed yet, Is there even apl for that? It was just a speculation...
yes 15% is a big deal
dim basalt
Idk, I haven't simmed yet, Is there even apl for that? It was just a speculation...
Dont forget that op has an amp with our current set as well
wanton sierra
always has been trash, might see spear taking off next patch with the stacking o...
idk, roar feels wack lately, being an last tier row talent, it should be better
weak rain
like 20% extra dmg op and exe is what, 7-8% in overall? but the most insane part is free slayer strike/spin
spin was buffed and actually does dmg
Also I feel like 2 and 4 set effects should be swapped right, since 2set buff is actually stronger(at least for st)
wanton sierra
nice, hope to see more of slayers on m+
colossus tier is quite nice, idk the numbers or the sims.. but that bleed attention was nice, garantee ms? call me in
weak rain
looks like on aoe slayer just goes cleave op rotation, and spins every gcd lul
candid pecan
always has been trash, might see spear taking off next patch with the stacking o...
nah, roar buffs coming next week
or maybe they add roar into Arterial bleed
weak rain
I feel like they should just buff roar
Also for fucks sake make bloodborne 1 point talent like prot/fury
wooden lava
what colossus st build yall playing on ptr?
shy tide
slayer
urban iron
fbv kinda dumb with bleed set bonus lol
weak rain
no way colo goes without buttlord with that set
wooden lava
yeah u have to take blord
but it's homeless as fuck
colossus is dead in the water for any ST
also slayer builds up overwhelmed stacks so much faster now, it's insane
slow saddle
They need to buff passive bleeds
And remove juggernaut
Oh and make execute give cdr to demo
( and watch prot skyrocket
silk spade
Oh and make execute give cdr to demo
it used to, no?
teal fossil
i think it’s a mix of both
teal fossil
The rotation was completely ignoring ms
silk spade
they said they wanted you to use ms more iirc
slow saddle
Which is why u did not ms
silk spade
when they removed execute cdr
teal fossil
So your cds just looked like avatar-cs-execute x 10000
And you needed stars to align for ms
slow saddle
Rav lasted 3 ms
slow saddle
Y but atm with current tier
teal fossil
The sims was not looking lit
slow saddle
Wouldnt be true
And next tier neither
Ah well who cares just dele juggernaut as talent
silk spade
i think wanting to press ms often is healthy for the spec
slow saddle
We do the same now in raid
teal fossil
But execute phase got a lot worse
Yeah agree on this
slow saddle
If u play col in raid
Nerf changed nothing
U still execute
And when rav u dont ms
Coz rav ms
teal fossil
I’m ok with the current vision
Of slayer being exec
And colossus exec being slam replacement
Just needs some tuning work
I want colossus to be viable on st if no execute
rigid ravine
I only play col in keys what fights would it even be good on
can try some stuff out for reclear
slow saddle
Its equally bad
On all but reclear just try
Its fun and lets be honest we got so much buffs
shadow ibex
The rotation was completely ignoring ms
You never ignored ms
shadow ibex
And even that in s1 was because of tuning
shadow ibex
Not because of demo stacks
teal fossil
Not a colossus issue
shadow ibex
Idk they just completely lied
When they made that change
You only let ravager eat your ep if you were dumb enough to play EP colossus
lethal acorn
I think opposite i n m+ st situation sending a sks after a demo fucks
Well I play Demolish in raid too...
shadow ibex
But EP colossus is no bueno
slow saddle
In mythic raid prob y
shadow ibex
I wonder if they will add cooldown to perma bleed buff from colossus tier
Or just make it passive
It's perma uptime atm if you just have a pulse and press MS whenever it's avaliable
dim basalt
They can
shadow ibex
It's up permanently atm
zenith warren
finally got a boe and it's a belt 
shadow ibex
slow saddle
Lol
swift crown
50% more SDs from new 2pc surely makes Jugg easier to carry
rapid cloud
Hey, I'm looking for a resource to help determine exact priority on various target counts under specific conditions. All of the guides seem to have a general single target and multitarget rotation, but after playing a lot I still have some questions along the lines of "during sweeping strikes on 3 targets is MS>cleave?" or "On 2 targets during sweeping strikes with x stacks of winning streak, is overpower>cleave?". I'm not sure how to come up with answers to these. I tried hitting dummies for a while but I didn't feel like I was making much headway.
Archimtiros writes in the guide that the arms aoe roatation is "bloated by conditionals from what specific buffs are active to how many targets there are, making it somewhat complicated to follow to the letter". I would like to work on figuring out these conditionals and following it to the letter since I feel like I have a solid grasp of the basic rotation.
slow saddle
Aoe +3 cleave
shadow ibex
Any higher is cleave MS OP
Sweeping or not
2t no sweeping probably MS > OP=cleave. not a huge deal to min max imo as you will have very little time spent in two target where sweeping isn't up.
There aren't any encounters on live that would see you have extended periods of two target
rapid cloud
the biggest time that matters i guess is 1st boss of priory, but i think you end up in basically every possible situation in m+
raid is ezpz
shadow ibex
First boss of prio you can just ms op cleave you aren't really doing anything greedy and padding
The free slam from fob+ cleave is probably better dpr than just executing the boss tbh
olive topaz
Better for building your colossal might faster too
rapid cloud
they share health right
slow saddle
No
rapid cloud
i am a griefer
slow saddle
U just funnel
rapid cloud
2t with sweeping is MS OP cleave
having ravager active with sweeping would make it ms>cleave>op?
i read this and assumed that it was a real cleave fight
rapid cloud
right yeah you build your thingies faster and you get the slam from cleave
shadow ibex
having ravager active with sweeping would make it ms>cleave>op?
you can swap prio around and track ravager if you want but we're talking about prio change for like 6 seconds when you are gonna be pressing them all on CD anyway since they all have like 3-4 sec cd
just keep MS op and cleave on cd and that's like 90% of colossus
you can go crazy trying to keep track of conditionals and cleave moving over OP in prio when X happens or just keep them all on CD and get same results
rapid cloud
I know
I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just curious about the smaller details and was wondering if there was a good place to learn or mess around with stuff like that
outer crag
I need some advice. As an arms warrior, Ele Shamans are insane right now. On my balance Druid I’ll just LoS Ele shamans when they’re using a CD. But as a warrior I’m doing zero damage and creating large distance between me and him for when I come back out. My damage is garbage bc I’m LoS, or I’m out in the middle banging on him and he nukes me to death. I use Spell Reflect + Rebound, die by the sword, ignore pain, rallying cry. I even stopped using stuns and fear on healer to just slow the Ele damage down. What do you suggest? Am I forgetting an ability or talent possibly?
outer crag
Oops. Thank you
shadow ibex
I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just curious about the smaller details and w...
there isn't too high of a skill ceiling for it
shadow ibex
Execute go dummy next tier
inb4 they just cut out the 20% exe dmg from 2pc
shadow ibex
I'm just bored playing same talents all expac
rare kite
I'm just bored playing same talents all expac
playing same talents all expac is fine. playing same talents multiple expac not so much...
hexed snow
Aga
zenith warren
is latest liquid wa pack fucked?
zenith warren
sprocket
hexed snow
Hmm no, what is the issu
zenith warren
didnt work for some guildies, apparentyl people say in comments that there are some issues with the latest version
dim basalt
Worked fine for us
hexed snow
Same same
dim basalt
But the WA packs can get fucked and you have to reinstall them all
Including anchors
We had that happen on prog
dim basalt
Thats unrelated
hexed snow
No no, I just meant that we have that one, never had an issue
dim basalt
o
hexed snow
dim basalt
Sprocket was the only boss that caused issues with liquid weakauras
hexed snow
Interesting
dim basalt
But quick reinstall and gg
hexed snow
Is it the bombs?
hexed snow
They had a big metadata update some days ago, no?
Guys important is that battleshout is no cd
hollow plover
gallywix soaks in p2 p3 are buggy sometimes
they show no soak despite being assigned to soak
the liquid weakauras, i mean
but as long as players have a brain then they know that they need to soak so its gucci
hexed snow
@hollow plover seen that aswell
We just have assigned positions and expect ppl to remember at least those...
shadow ibex
but sometimes we use sks and sometimes we dont
we're like 50/50 on whether or not the tier is spam execute + 5 ms conditionals or actually x2 EP MS
minor gust
that too lmao
shadow ibex
man i remember using a deep wounds weak aura
cuz some tiers we didnt MS for that long
i think that had to be CN
olive nest
Ngl I really hope they don’t change arms too drastically
I actually really enjoy the gameplay loop it has now
Just quirks like jug gambling and SD not being a high priority proc seems weird
Some change could be good though
shadow ibex
I take offense to the dead talents
hollow plover
we're like 50/50 on whether or not the tier is spam execute + 5 ms conditionals ...
with PTR apl?
shadow ibex
Multiple dead talents for all expac
Dance of death dead since talent trees intro. Spiteful dead for like 2 years now?
hexed snow
Sadge
shadow ibex
with PTR apl?
We just talking in general
shadow ibex
No matter how much fun I have losing jug stacks late
Doesn't matter
Could be best time ever 10/10 then jugg drops at 36%
hexed snow
That happened to my mugzee run
It literally died at 37
And restack to 15 is so aids
shadow ibex
Yea happened to me our reclear this week
Just tiny bit more dmg
And he would push in time for me to extend
hexed snow
I just didn't get the SD proc
shadow ibex
And after cultivating it all fight
hexed snow
No SD proc for 15seconds is insane imo
hexed snow
Yep
That type of gameplay is sad imo
Idk I'm not a game dev, but I would def try not to do smth like that.
spiral coral
New CritCake video 👀
shadow ibex
I actually really enjoy the gameplay loop it has now
i think the only gameplay change drastic from other expacs
is honestly opportunist
if we ignore jug extenstion its pretty vanilla arms until opp comes in
shadow ibex
i like it but i hate it in execute
olive nest
It’s kinda fun to juggle 2x ep and 2x mp
olive nest
Heh we’re opposites on that
hexed snow
It’s kinda fun to juggle 2x ep and 2x mp
2x MP?
olive nest
Martial prowess
hexed snow
Mmmm
shadow ibex
if slayer was just like the arms that only used MS to maintain DW in exe
i would probably like it more
and just exe and OP
cuz you'd get DW from BS/CS tbh
olive nest
So it’s worth spending opportunist procs up to 2x before your next MS cast in execute that’s what I meant by juggling the two MS modifiers
hexed snow
Honestly... That part I never jnderstood
olive nest
Press execute (did opportunist procs?) if no execute if yes opportunist
Well there’s a lot more to it than that honestly
But the road can lead you to one giga MS with 2x both buffs following the prio
And it’s kinda fun for me
zenith warren
sprocket trinket also simming for you guys on pair with house of cards?
shadow ibex
its not bad trinket really
olive nest
If you have already executed twice and you have already opportunist procs twice and you currently have an opportunist proc it is correct to MS first before opportunist
Maybe that helps?
hexed snow
sprocket trinket also simming for you guys on pair with house of cards?
Yeah, depends on gear. But HoF > Sprocket for me
shadow ibex
i wouldnt be surprised if it beat hoc on shorter sim since it wont get stacks
olive nest
sprocket trinket also simming for you guys on pair with house of cards?
Yeah within margin of error for me
shadow ibex
and early fights die p fast
hexed snow
If you have already executed twice and you have already opportunist procs twice ...
Yep yep
Ngl I'm assigned lots of things during Exe moment on most bosses
So I don't rly look into the extremes
shadow ibex
olive nest
I get it same here, I’m usually like a 90-95 mythic avg skill level
Slam a 98 or 99 once in a while when I’m vibin
olive nest
This tier I’ve been having absolute shit kill pulls though
Barely hitting 90s lol
Jugs a real menace!
hexed snow
Hitting mugzee 90 log I just saw it was jugg stacks that died at 37%
So I just accepted defeat
Lmfao
Some bosses I do fury only but I'm gonna try arms now on reclears
Gallywix, One Armed, Stix
olive nest
I got a 95 mugz first kill pull
But I think a lot of my teammates being dead helped that
More jug time
hexed snow
First one was 70 for me, cuz I had to pop last bombs and got ruined bcz of bombs position bug
Lost uptime and even focus
Idk I have an issue as a gamer, not arms, I tunnel vision so much during last %
And that is so bad...
olive nest
Oh yeah mechanic assignments absolutely nuke my output until I’ve done the prog
hexed snow
FPS gamer to MMORPG gaming is big diff kekw
olive nest
Usually can get pretty comfortable with it though in like 10-20 pulls
hexed snow
Yeah, second mugzee kill someone did the bombs and it ampted it up to a 92
olive nest
OAB I have to run out and get the coin from the ranged add and my team puts the boss on the opposite side of the room
So rip oab log
hexed snow
Oh yeah for sure, on prog I'm comfortable after some pulls
olive nest
It will always be shit LoL
hexed snow
It is what it is
Mechanics > Logs in the end
My application to guild was
"I'm warrior that does mechanics"
Insta trial, and core member quickly
olive nest
Yeah boss dead mentality is good to have
A lot of people cause extra wipes because of greed
sharp wyvern
if your not a parsing andy you get a guild real quick anyway
hexed snow
Yep yep
All I do is look up to the boys here and try to learn how to do both as best I can
hexed snow
A lot of people cause extra wipes because of greed
I saw this one 2nd mugzee bombs
Ppl don't wanna soak to lose uptime
olive nest
That’s my team as well
hexed snow
I just leap and go agane
sharp wyvern
im also the guy who throws 2nd coin on bandit
so i always have to leap to ranged add
olive nest
Literally chain die to p2 bomb set because of soaks
sharp wyvern
olive nest
It’s rather annoying lmao
hexed snow
On trial I was assigned to do all 2nd coins, I actually didn't care about rotation
Focus was coin, dunk it in, now care bout rotation
olive nest
To be fair we’re like one of the worst specs on OAB so it makes sense that we get the shaft for that coin assignment
sharp wyvern
ngl i was volunterring on prog
hexed snow
Can't the DKs do it 
olive nest
Well as far as overall boss statistics go
hexed snow
You guys do arms or fury for that?
olive nest
Last I seen them anyway
supple osprey
people play haste on belt in m+?
sharp wyvern
arms
olive nest
The only bosses I did as fury were rik and stix
hexed snow
So Im thinking about full arms reclear next
Rik i did arms NGL, our barrels blew up so quickly
Issue with Rik is if tanks are aids
sharp wyvern
at this point i go arms too
olive nest
Most reclears I’ve been arms except for one week after I got punisher I did first 4 as fury
sharp wyvern
first few reclears barrels were a problem with bad spawns
hexed snow
Most reclears I’ve been arms except for one week after I got punisher I did firs...
I'm NGL, I loved fury s1
It was so simple
So brainnumbing
olive nest
Barrels are so ass
sharp wyvern
what changed in S2?
olive nest
I also enjoyed s1 fury
hollow zephyr
Anyone in here do high keys willing to help coach me at some point? 🙂
sharp wyvern
So brainnumbing
everytime i play fury on sprocket
hexed snow
what changed in S2?
The talent which forces u to play reck plus rvaager perfectly
sharp wyvern
my brain melts for not having any activity
hexed snow
AM?
sharp wyvern
oh
hexed snow
I think it's called AM
sharp wyvern
but you just send CDs
olive nest
Yeah it’s am
olive nest
Am gets fucked hard when you can’t maintain uptime
hexed snow
Insta 95 logs without even caring about anything
hexed snow
RA makes me stressed
sharp wyvern
this is why i like arms more
olive nest
Oh yeah I quite literally was having numbness issues in my ring and pinky finger from my fury keybinds
I had to force relearn muscle memory
It was bad lol
hexed snow
Yep
Arms was much more relaxing
Ok I got MS up
Ok chaching
Ok overpower
Ok slam
sharp wyvern
using the one button thing also needs some relearning muscle memory
olive nest
Arms owns man
hexed snow
Oh now boss 35% hp
olive nest
Forever arms gamer
sharp wyvern
you have to resist the urge to take control again
olive nest
sharp wyvern
its painfull seing it over prioritizing OP and MS during execute tho
and not using execute when on 2 SD stacks
hexed snow
Wish u cud tweak it though but I understand why they don't want us to be able to do that
sharp wyvern
already banned
hexed snow
And they instantly patched it
Yep
What do we think of the sets being based around hero talents?
sharp wyvern
coping for collossus ST
hexed snow
Wasn't that always bad 😂
sharp wyvern
slayer execute too strong
weak rain
noway it beats slayer with the new slayer set
hexed snow
Yep
weak rain
ofc, but in order to make colo better than slayer
hexed snow
You should see BM, I just had to read that and go... "Isnt that broken asf"
weak rain
they need to nerf execute and buff MS
weak rain
and also bleeds unironically
hexed snow
Why nerf execute tho
sharp wyvern
its sad to see bleed dmg buffs once again
weak rain
because slayer = execute
hexed snow
Yep
hexed snow
That's fair, but execute nerf? Why not jugg rework xd
sharp wyvern
thats without the slayer strikes
weak rain
its sad to see bleed dmg buffs once again
they are moving colo into MS+bleed spec with big demolish, slayer into EXE+OP
- big bladestorm
sharp wyvern
"big bladestorm" lmao
weak rain
in their heads
sharp wyvern
you mean channeled unhinged?
weak rain
right
dim basalt
they are moving colo into MS+bleed spec with big demolish, slayer into EXE+OP
Tbh that would be kinda cool
sharp wyvern
if anything ever happens to unhinged slayer dies
or we unironically play ravager and get the 10 stacks from procs
weak rain
Tbh that would be kinda cool
No, I meant that this should be their general tuning from now on
imo
they want to buff colo, here we go slap MS/bleed buff
dim basalt
In an ideal world, yeah
weak rain
slayer is underperforming? exe op
hexed snow
Raw DMG fun
weak rain
minus actual hero talents ofc
sharp wyvern
i think its still cringe that slayer and collosuss need different stats
hexed snow
Oh well, let's see how S3 treats us
sharp wyvern
so you gonna have 3 different item sets for each spec
not for each but you know what i mean
weak rain
eh, if bleeds will be general theme for colo, than it should be crit->haste
slayer obv haste->crit
but robot knows better
hexed snow
so you gonna have 3 different item sets for each spec
And then fury swap... Oh my...
sharp wyvern
its mostly rings/neck
hexed snow
Too many items
weak rain
heart of azeroth back when
sharp wyvern
especially when the only good one from raid drops from the "optional" boss
weak rain
what are the stats on it?
weak rain
this boss is not really optional with these booties
sharp wyvern
yeah idk what "optional" even means
even rwf guilds are just gonna kill it for the loot i assume
weak rain
any cool cantrip weapons in this raid btw? haven't checked yet
sharp wyvern
only agi weapons iirc
weak rain
ah, secret legendary str 2hander inc
rare kite
any cool cantrip weapons in this raid btw? haven't checked yet
there is technically a 2h special weapon. not useful in combat tho
weak rain
never give me a legendary again
just make 6 mirrors and farm it noob
hexed snow
5 legendaries, stat.
rare kite
what does that even do
rare kite
2nd last boss in raid drops that mace
olive nest
Preach
weak rain
2nd last boss in raid drops that mace
looks half-baked
no way they are going to release it like that
useless weapon wooohoo
sharp wyvern
but transmog is sick
dim basalt
Yeah it looks insane
rare kite
idk what void dust does
seems to just turn them into a voidball
sharp wyvern
the agi spear aswell
sharp wyvern
seems to just turn them into a voidball
thats it ?
can you walk over and get a buff or smth
rare kite
oh it also loots everything for you when you click it
sharp wyvern
rare kite
doesn't seem to have anything happen when you walk over it. nor can you click it
weak rain
rare kite
weak rain
And it sacrifices stats for that "incredible" cantrip, right?
rare kite
sharp wyvern
the RP players also need loot
rare kite
And it sacrifices stats for that "incredible" cantrip, right?
it does not. just has alot of crit
what is weird tho is that it can be used by feral druids. only agi user in the game that can use it
weak rain
it does not. just has alot of crit
Yea, my bad, thought weapons gave more. It's not bad I guess
rare kite
i mean it's a very rare weapon with a useless effect. it's just a weapon hahah
weak rain
what are other weapons in the raid stat-wise and from what bosses
sharp wyvern
transmog farmers want something to spend a dinar on aswell
let them have it
i dont want another super rare weapon as BiS
weak rain
we will have dinar systen again?
sharp wyvern
the entire point on taking it out of the renown was to keep it
and then they made another renown
rare kite
what are other weapons in the raid stat-wise and from what bosses
one from last boss haste/crit(haste high) and one from 4th boss haste/mast(mast high)
those are the ones from raid
sharp wyvern
did you se the puzzle box trinket from new dungeon
weak rain
No weapong from first 2 bosses
sharp wyvern
1.5 min CD 8k mastery
rare kite
1.5 min CD 8k mastery
you mean the one that is not strength? hahahah
sharp wyvern
is it not
rare kite
no lol. int/agi
rare kite
we got this tho. new trinket from halls of atonement
sharp wyvern
and we got another trinket like HoC everyone wants that gives 50k main stat
rare kite
yupp. 2m trinket ofc
sharp wyvern
why would you want to use that channel one during CDs anyway
weak rain
charge rend trinket->into normal rotation
rare kite
14.1k crit minimum for 15 sec is pretty good
sharp wyvern
thats gonna be big in m+ for col
daring heron
trinket is gonna get taxed so hard by DR
rare kite
trinket is gonna get taxed so hard by DR
might see play for fury tho
sim seems to be happy with my haste and mastery as fury. gonna be more vers and crit next season, prob mostly vers
hollow plover
xdd
rapid abyss
anyone else seen this from the new 5 man? 2.00 speed 2 hander that deals shadow weapon dmg.
verbal marten
anyone else seen this from the new 5 man? 2.00 speed 2 hander that deals shadow ...
speed only matters in classic
rapid abyss
but that is weird
yea even 1h weapons are 2.6 speed
shadow ibex
it would be more rage technically
since every swing is base amount
its not like a weapon speed formula
rapid abyss
but the shadow damage aspect too. bypasses armor. although i guess our autos are a pitiful % of our dmg
shadow ibex
probably just bug and not like rage is relevant for us
it probably deals about same i assume they would reduce its auto dmg since it ignores armor
might also explain the 2.0 speed to keep the dps on par with other weapons ig
like condemn having smaller tooltip than exe since it ignored armor
charred brook
grim hull
yo in order to drop specific effect on belt i can spam same delves or diff effects drops from diff energized delves?
broken arrow
Different effect from different delves, but they dont have to be energized.
It tells you what you need if you mouse over the power on the belt
grim hull
Different effect from different delves, but they dont have to be energized.
oh awesome
ty 4 the tip
hollow zephyr
Why did my damage go lower after swapping to what simc suggested?
regal dragon
how cooked is warrior next season so far chat
lunar remnant
So prot got changes when do we get ours?
regal dragon
So prot got changes when do we get ours?
we get changes?
hollow plover
Why did my damage go lower after swapping to what simc suggested?
it's called variance
shit SD procs so u drop juggernaut? unlucky
suddenly no dam
hollow zephyr
sorry im referring to M+. thats mainly where i care about my dps lol
or where im trying to really get better i should say. i care about in raid but im mainly focusing on M+atm
inner wasp
cost to upgrade a 2h is ridiculous wtf
where am i supposed to get all these VALORSTONES
theres no release date for s3 right
shadow ibex
no
proud heath
would hectic add cleave be the best way to sim gally?
inner wasp
has anyone done trivial content sims
how many globals does something need to be alive for before its actually worth applying rend
shadow ibex
probably if it survives a full duration or not
but even then MS will apply it sub 35 anyway
inner wasp
is the new slayer tier set ez jugg stacking?
more slayers strikes means more SD procs right
sour forge
Col looks pretty juicy
covert geyser
Condemn back when?
manic stirrup
theres no release date for s3 right
probably august 12
source? im right believe me
weak wave
where am i supposed to get all these VALORSTONES
From your alts.
inner wasp
alts? in this economy?
shadow ibex
probably august 12
i cant take 2 more months
weak wave
i cant take 2 more months
Already played Expedition 33?
shadow ibex
and doom
inner wasp
its just charge but slow
balmy kindle
shadow ibex
i would do assa or sub
olive nest
Sin looks like fun right now ngl
raw helm
Does it matter which 2-handed weapon you craft for Arms Warrior? I don't have the transmog for the mace and was thinking of crafting it on my new alt but didn't know if that mattered vs like a Charged Claymore or Everforged Greataxe.
minor gust
does not matter dmg wise all crafted weps are the same
just pick based off tmog or cost
raw helm
cost as in mats from AH?