arms

[quasi torrent]

cheater

Erzeugnis einer außerehelichen Beziehung

💢

[bronze tiger]

is jastors that big for us?

[tacit crystal]

ich ben schnappi das kliene krokodil

[hollow plover]

not as big as it is for fury but its really big yea

[tacit crystal]

ask the robot how big it is for you

but it is big

[bronze tiger]

simming it now

[wooden lava]

do you get higher quality loot if you do visions with more masks

[hollow plover]

no cluers

[bronze tiger]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/m4zFVrRkh6vwUVhJyXT55C

is finger 1 where my circlet is?

[tacit crystal]

do topgear

and add it

while putting gems in

[bronze tiger]

i dont think i can do top gear since im not home for the simc

[hollow plover]

i believe so ya

[leaden meadow]

do you giys just use pot with avatar?

is that wrong

[bronze tiger]

i use pot before opening the game tbh

[slow saddle]

Yes

[sharp wyvern]

we need to meet them halfway
only make it drop after leaving combat

[hollow plover]

yuh

[bronze tiger]

they need to make our CDs line up

[slow saddle]

Well

Delete cdr

And that happens

[sharp wyvern]

thats like the least of our problems

[slow saddle]

Tbh though

[sharp wyvern]

they do kinda line up already

[slow saddle]

Its not bad as col

Once u get decent amount of crit

They could remove, colloteral blow or wtf its called

I hate that 1

Power is fun, dmg is fun, gameplay is annoying and counterintuitive

[sharp wyvern]

the biggest issue with collosus is that Demolish is 3 hits and not combined into 1

i want to see 10 mil hits

[bronze tiger]

or when the tank barely goes outside of its range by the third cast

[sharp wyvern]

and then it cancels

[bronze tiger]

rofl

[slow saddle]

Cancel is not an issue

Like 99% of the time

[sharp wyvern]

just like CS getting parried wasnt

[bronze tiger]

it happens sometimes, and its like as if i didnt press it at all

[slow saddle]

If u can play or tank can

Cs parry was way worsr

[gaunt owl]

i miss CS parry

it gave texture to the gameplay you know

[olive nest]

Yeah we need more texture

[bronze tiger]

is there like a weakaura or something that makes me say or yell when i have spell reflect up?

people always inting something i can reflect it seems like

[halcyon breach]

fake news

[tacit crystal]

name a better duo

banezi new pfp every day

[thin grotto]

Hello guys! Is it very shit to play arms with full fury stats ( 2k crit )? Would there be a huge difference if i get rings/neck with crit?

[tacit crystal]

no

there will be a difference but

you can see how big it would be by simming

most of your damage will be rotation

[thin grotto]

ty

[shadow ibex]

Nah cancel can smd

[slow saddle]

I dont disagree. But man it happens seldomly

[olive nest]

It should not be able to miss once activated

[slow saddle]

Well it should finish but if mobs arent in rsnge shouldbt get hit

3 combo frontal would be ok

[shadow ibex]

Just doesn't need to exist period

No one else is dealing with this

[olive nest]

The channel would be fine if it wasn’t able to miss when a mob moves out of range after starting the channel

[shadow ibex]

Banner launched and we had to plant it in the ground and stay within the area for the buff. It was awful and eventually changed to being on your back

Idk why should settle for something shitty cuz sometimes it isn't

I'll take the root if it hits like 40% harder

If we did more dmg to make up for the mental load of using it in keys where things 1 shot you vs a ranged or UH DK just having their hero spec ability replace scourge strike

[olive nest]

Imagine banner was placed on the ground

[shadow ibex]

IT WAS

That's what it was until they redid it near the end of cn

For 90% of prog you built stacks with MS and then placed it with a duration based on stacks had

And it was a 2min cd iirc

Because why not on a 90 seconds class

[dusk oriole]

For those who don't use Hekili, how do yall track all your buffs for skill prio

[dim basalt]

class / spec weakaura

[dusk oriole]

As in you create one for your class and spec or you have one that people reference?

[shadow ibex]

Created my own WA/tmw

[dusk oriole]

The great question of execute, mortal strike and overpower

[shadow ibex]

You can create even a swing timer in like 3 clicks

[dusk oriole]

What's the point in a swing timer?

[bronze tiger]

no real point outside of classic

[dim basalt]

Thats not true?

[bronze tiger]

its totally true lol

[dim basalt]

Its not

[bronze tiger]

ok

[dusk oriole]

Boys boys, use your words

[dim basalt]

Any AA can mean an SD proc

Which can help you extend jugg in the last moment / global

[bronze tiger]

lul

[dusk oriole]

How often are you finding that is required case in a 5 min fight?

[dim basalt]

It does help every other pull

But thats minmaxing anyway

If youre learning the actual rotation you wont need it for now

[dusk oriole]

Every other pull you're on the last seconds of a juggernaut streak save?

[dim basalt]

ye

[shadow ibex]

I just like knowing when rage is coming in

[dim basalt]

And I guess that too ^

Tho thats more important for M+

[shadow ibex]

If I'm gonna have to be off boss because dodging a mechanic I rather get the auto in first

[dusk oriole]

I see, so you sacrifice the time between your current ability for AA in case execute is available, otherwise do current ability

I noticed WA has delays in presenting information that the blizz ui doesn't, how do you get around that?

[shadow ibex]

You would have to track slayer strike for that

Opportunist is delayed there is a WA that isn't but just making it in your own idk how

I just deal with the delay

[dusk oriole]

I tried to make it on my own, instead I used blizz action bar to hover over hekili

Do you find a delay in the buffs too? Sudden, marked, etc

[shadow ibex]

Idk I just know opportunist definitely is

Probably tho

[dim basalt]

Only opp is

But if youre tracking OP it doesnt really matter

Reset = opp

[shadow ibex]

Yea I just keep track of op resets like sociopath

[dim basalt]

State of arms in a nutshell

[dusk oriole]

Yes agreed. I put that in the center to be real obvious

[shadow ibex]

[dusk oriole]

Need to prepare for when they turn off a bunch of addons

[dim basalt]

Aint gonna be fun

[shadow ibex]

I wouldn't worry about that until midnight

And even then I might guess end of midnight

Idk good luck to them making fun fights without weak auras. All their experimental no weak aura bosses have been some of the worst encounters ever made

[dim basalt]

Yeah I thought about it as well, I hardly see them doing that with a season patch

[shadow ibex]

So good luck to them I guess

[dim basalt]

If we had a season 4 they could kind of experiment around ig

But thats not gonna happen

[shadow ibex]

I hate season 4s now

And I only saw one in DF I wasn't around for sl

[dim basalt]

Same

With how they did it in DF it was really bad

Why not let people choose a raid

[shadow ibex]

I thought it would be cool to buy gear but then killing that boss over and over feels pointless

Yay smoldy dead and all this stuff we would have loved on prog

Just vendor it

[minor gust]

They aren't gonna be turning off add-ons for a long time I wouldn't worry

[bronze tiger]

they need to make content/ class spells that dont require addons first

[gaunt owl]

you dont require addon

they just made the game easier

[dim basalt]

Cant speak for all specs but as long as we have a way to track buffs and debuffs its fine

For the most part

[bronze tiger]

Realistically, content in retail World of Warcraft might benefit from being more gear-focused rather than heavily emphasizing skill expression, ensuring a more consistent progression experience for players

[shadow ibex]

dont think that works with how easy it is to get gear

the base experience is already failing upwards

[gaunt owl]

they would just gatekeep the gearing process

[bronze tiger]

That's a fair point — gear acquisition has definitely become more accessible in recent expansions, which does reduce its value as a progression driver. I suppose the core issue then is that the game struggles to strike a balance: when gear is too easy to obtain, and skill expression isn't emphasized enough, the content risks feeling shallow or unrewarding. Maybe the solution lies in reintroducing meaningful progression systems that complement gear, without making the game overly punishing for casual player

[gaunt owl]

and make it painful for 99% of the player that dont do 20 splits

[shadow ibex]

i mean with the one button coming next patch, its very possible to just mash 1 key to at least 660

[dim basalt]

Tbf RWF should be done on a tournament realm anyway

[bronze tiger]

RWF is poopsock olympics

[shadow ibex]

that will never happen

[gaunt owl]

RWF shouldnt exists

[shadow ibex]

i think it should be on a tournament realm fwiw

[gaunt owl]

its boring nerds racing against nothing

[dim basalt]

So?

Its still fun to watch every now and then

[shadow ibex]

but they would just race on the main server anyway right?

like you cant not let them

and if they dont someone else will

[gaunt owl]

the watch value on RWF is mediocre

[shadow ibex]

unless we tune things around NEEDING the gear

[gaunt owl]

you watch people sit in game for 50% of the time

[dim basalt]

I mean if they give the guilds instant heroic gear I dont think they would

[gaunt owl]

or splitting for the 12th time

[shadow ibex]

if the final boss is tuned to wehre no you need 6 weeks worth of farm gear

then yea you can "stop" the rwf

but the winner will just be the team that can get around that best

and do you wanna raid in that world? we know how expectations trickle down. your own guild may not be anywhere near competing but i would bet 8/10 require a full vault at the start of tier no matter what

what would the expectations be in a world where the final boss cant be numerically down until like 8 weeks in because its tuned around a high ilvl

[boreal flame]

I am curious what other warriors are doing for keybinds. What you got and where?

[dusk oriole]

I'm not seeing slayer strikes > marked or sudden death procs from AA dmg

@dim basalt

[boreal flame]

I personally try to match what i do for Fury as far as placement but a few items like thunder clap, whirlwind, slam, etc but now items like whirlwind to cleave while fury is "replaced" by sweeping strikes and whirlwind is separate for arms.

[dim basalt]

The tooltip of SD

[dusk oriole]

You mean "your attacks" or the chance part?

[dim basalt]

And Slayers Domination / Imminent Demise

Attacks

[dusk oriole]

Yes, considering all of that

AA is not proc'ing any of it

Unless 5minutes is not enough time

It's a really really easy test.. hit something and don't use abilities

[shadow ibex]

what are you trying to track

[dusk oriole]

To support the logic of an AA tracker for procs, I'm testing to see if any procs come from AA

Testing shows.. no. "your attacks" should be written as "your abilities"

Well, I guess attacking abilities

[halcyon breach]

When it says "your attacks" it very typically refers to your abilities

Even if it's not very apparent unless you already know

Slayer's Strike specifically also only comes from your abilities

[shadow ibex]

yea it usually specifies autos

if its an auto attack effect

[halcyon breach]

But for future cases, just pressume it's from abilities unless explicitly states

[dim basalt]

Huh, thats mb on that part then

[dusk oriole]

Like wild strikes

[halcyon breach]

Trinkets though tend to proc from both abilities and auto attacks

[dim basalt]

Always felt like it came from autos

[dusk oriole]

Needed to test to determine if I'm going to get an AA tracker. We out here trying to 99 parse

[halcyon breach]

A swing timer is something you can get if you care for optimising, but more so for cases of when you'd be able to use an extra amount of rage (i.e in Execute) and have enough rage before your GCD is over to MS/Execute again afterwards

[shadow ibex]

thats gonna come down to maintaining jug stacks and luck with crits

[halcyon breach]

However you could also make do completely without a swing timer with current Arms

[dusk oriole]

Because of the abundance of rage throughout most of the fight?

[halcyon breach]

Basically yes

If you care enough, it's not a bad idea still to get a swing timer either to getting used to having it (in case it'll be relevant in the future), or for min/maxing (by a small amount) for those fringe case uses

[zenith lodge]

what would you use the swing timer for? run out in between swings to charge back in for rage?

[halcyon breach]

In the past you'd use it for that, but you should never be in a situation where you'd need to charge weave

There aren't really many use cases right now for a swing timer though, which is why it's not gonna really change if you have one or not

Most have a swing timer either because they've played Arms for a while, the WA pack they got just had it included, or they care about fringe cases

[shadow ibex]

im just a crazy person

[bronze tiger]

Banezi confirmed, i told yall

[halcyon breach]

I don't even play the game anymore don't take my word as gospel

[bronze tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-tbc-fury-warrior-dont-gif-24721432

[sacred zodiac]

its useful to see whether you have toys macroed into your abilities

[halcyon breach]

You should cease the assault this instant

[bronze tiger]

what games are you playing rn Banezi if not wow

[halcyon breach]

ff14, gacha games, poe

[bronze tiger]

would maplestory be considered gacha

[halcyon breach]

if you gamble for characters I'd qualify it as gacha

[bronze tiger]

ahh maybe not then, i think the only gacha game i would know is Genshin

[halcyon breach]

Genshin is indeed a gacha

Honkai, Zenless, insert many popular asian f2p games

[shadow ibex]

is there no way to stop myself from canceling breath of sindra if i mash button twice

that just seems really dumb and an oversight no?

[bronze tiger]

wrong discord

[rare kite]

think there is a macro for it

[dire hinge]

#showtooltip Breath of Sindragosa
/cast !Breath of Sindragosa```

you can bake in more with it as well:

/cast Pillar of Frost
/cast Raise Dead
/use 13
/cast !Breath of Sindragosa```

[bronze tiger]

surprised biceps isnt in the warrior discord

[shadow ibex]

i knew some of yall played dk

[steep osprey]

fdk is just too fun

[shadow ibex]

i dont like that dw is best

2h oblit was the shit

[wanton sierra]

maybe WW back? im tired of cleave xD (i mean next season or big changes)

[shadow ibex]

for fury sure

isnt affected by either hero spec so p dead until major change

[olive nest]

Frost is best when 2h oblit is winning

[deep jungle]

do i use sweeping strikes before Demolish? or does it not get sweeping striked

[fresh spire]

First two strikes are swept, just not the slam

[dire hinge]

i dont, i just googled it instead of asking in the warrior discord

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/death-knight/frost/best-weakauras-macros-addons#macros-breath-of-sindragosa

[warped prism]

do yall normally just sim 1t 5min patch and call it a day? would it just be slayer st for that or col? i normally run keys

[steep osprey]

I think I wanna try to main a healer next tier

[spiral coral]

I wanna main prot

2nd warr almost 3k, next is getting the prot to 3k which should be insanely quick lol

[spiral coral]

I do but I’m lazy

[steep osprey]

Healing seems hard because it’s a thankless job and you’re always blamed if something goes wrong

It’s pretty anxious

I’ve been playing some keys as preservation and been having fun but sometimes I mess things up

You need to know everything that goes on and will happen

[halcyon breach]

so real

[latent moss]

hoooly

[halcyon breach]

<@&257983573498265600>

[latent moss]

works for me

ty so much vro

[steep osprey]

+2500

[plucky violet]

You got it! Pres has an amazing discord community that will help

[shadow ibex]

dont you owe czerka some money

https://tenor.com/view/cat-iouvels-side-eye-awks-are-you-fr-gif-24422806

[fading sage]

How massive of a buff if hypothetically they changed Thunderclap to apply rend to all targets and not just 5?

[shadow ibex]

not much

you can use sweeping to double the amount if you really wanna bleed everything

[fading sage]

Wait, you can sweep clap and it does 10 tagets?

[warped prism]

what resource is our best for the rotation? icyveins and wowhead have diff rotations.. for example, wowhead has MS (during ST) > overpower but iv has overpower above it during sweeping

[shadow ibex]

its not intended

[plucky violet]

You're the first one who's ever pointed it out. I love kotor

[shadow ibex]

kreia did nothin wrong

[stable fiber]

sweep has been removed from my spellbook, weird arms buff ngl

funny its considered a "passive" ability now

lol

[verbal marten]

WHAT IN THE BOMBOCLAT IS THIS

This is the WARRIOR DISCORD

[verbal marten]

built in sweep

[verbal marten]

i cant read that

[dire hinge]

I wish i could read 😦

[verbal marten]

i can only type english not read ot

can u translate to spanish

[dire hinge]

Claro, básicamente hice la misma broma sobre "este es el guerrero Discord".

[verbal marten]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-what-oh-shit-for-real-i-see-gif-8120501

makes sense

[digital holly]

I haven't played recently, what's going on with sweep

[stable fiber]

noting

[digital holly]

Oh was it just buggin

[stable fiber]

ill explain in a sec

[digital holly]

All good no rush

[stable fiber]

in tww they added a hide passives button in the top right

and for some reason

its turned on normally so its hiding passives, stuff like your mastery and what language you speak because of your race, also hides guild perks

but for some reason it hides some abilities, one of them being sweeping strikes

although its not hiding it now, but when i logged on earlier it was being hidden by that

[warm fog]

It’s a warrior reading test. If you can see that sweep isn’t on your spell page, you reveal your literacy

Busted

[hollow plover]

yo @stable fiber do u run execute mouseover

[stable fiber]

I only did for OAB

Which in hindsight I should have on mugzee too

But I mean I still got rank 1 so

[hollow plover]

also stix no?

[stable fiber]

3 bosses on mythic

Almost 5

I only use it on OAB because of armor it gets where you can't reduce it to a certain amount, makes it so you target the boss but can still get executioners precision on the boss as well even when he is above 35%

Also using sweep on pull for mugzee is insane tech

[hollow plover]

pre-sweep mugzee and oab isnt that insane

tbh

[stable fiber]

Well mugzee it can be seen as insane

[hollow plover]

how so

you sweep early cuz add dies quickly anyway and u get it back up for circle add

Nod

[stable fiber]

Mythic mugzee the shocker has a 99% reduction

[hollow plover]

ah ur talkin myth mugzee

[stable fiber]

So sweeping effectively does noting, however, when you sweep the mines it can still proc reap the storm even though they are immune to all damage

Which in turn gives you a damage amp on the boss with overwhelmed stacks and reap the storm itself

It's very minor, but I'm a big fan of these small dps increases where you dont really have to do too much thinking

[hollow plover]

do you know if exhilerating blows reset chance doubles with sweep?

[stable fiber]

I dont believe that to be the case

Actually maybe, it feels like it resets way more on rik reverb

I'm leaning more towards no though

[hollow plover]

fair enough

Im not sure myself

and testing that seems bothersome

[boreal quartz]

Psure it does

Like 2t is obscene reset town

[hollow plover]

you might be thinking of battlelord resets tho

[stable fiber]

Looking at my rik reverb it looks like it procs way more when I'm sweeping the pyrotechnics instead of just ST on boss

[boreal quartz]

I am not

Im thinking of EB

[stable fiber]

I'm on phone though so it's scuffed

[dim basalt]

I never paid attention to that in 2T scenarios

Tho when I think about 1st boss priory, I guess the chance increases?

[stable fiber]

Looking at the timeline, I have 1 proc of EB in the first 20 seconds, then when im sweeping the pyrotechnics i have 4 back to back to back to back procs

[hollow plover]

ah ait cool, thanks

[stable fiber]

Based MW monk

[hollow plover]

juggmaxxing

[stable fiber]

That is my details name in raid

[hollow plover]

i created an alt warr called juggmaxxing end of season 1

since i knew i was gonna focus more on arms

but i never leveled it

[stable fiber]

I did think about making 1 warrior for each spec

But thats a lot of work

[hollow plover]

btw do we know if we can make details nicknames public outside of guildmates eyes?

i think rn only guildies can see details nicknames

[hollow plover]

real

[stable fiber]

I think everyone can see your details name

I'm ngl I feel like a lot of people don't even know you can change it

[hollow plover]

maybe its some setting i have but in my boost runs people cant see my nicknames

and i cant see theirs

[stable fiber]

I remember doing week 1 prog of heroic gally with ellesmere and his details name was complaining about mistweaver monks

[hollow plover]

istg if this is an NA/EU difference

AngryCat

[stable fiber]

It could be a server thing

Ellesmere might be same server as my warrior

[hollow plover]

interesting take

maybe yeah

[halcyon breach]

It's typically tied to only show if you're friends/in the guild with the person

(iirc)

[hollow plover]

nah bnet friends wont trigger it for me

🤔

[halcyon breach]

Otherwise it'd be really bad if everyone could see your details name when you're with randoms

Or vice versa

Then it's guild only to my knowledge, idk anything outside of that

[hollow plover]

but if its guild only, how does khazix's story make sense

[halcyon breach]

Fixed it

[stable fiber]

Idk I've only ever seen it with ellesmere

[hollow plover]

or wait

khazix

[stable fiber]

Complained about monk so hard it transcends the rules

[hollow plover]

u sure u were thinking of details and not auraupdater nickname?

cuz the auraupdater nicknames have been universal for me

regardless of guild and whatnot

[stable fiber]

Hmm idk

Could be

[robust cypress]

in M+ do you roar before or after avatar?

[hollow plover]

before

you can avatar early in lower keys if u know the pack dies quickly

so u can pad a bit more

[steep osprey]

yo

[dim basalt]

yo

[inland drift]

nice

what 5 masks do you recommend for the solo 5mask run to get the achiev?

[gleaming cosmos]

Bring back no cleave Arms

I loved the execute casts thunderclap build tier set

[gaunt owl]

Cleave is an OG spell

[austere solar]

I loved that tier set bonus in dragonflight. Best DF season for warrior from my pov.

[warped ether]

Cleave is fun but man oh man does it sound like a wet noodle

[south cypress]

If my cds are misalinged and either WB or demo comes first with the other not coming back soon, do i sent them? I read somewhere i should always hold demo to do with WB but sometimes i mess up and its not always aligned

[lunar remnant]

Buff warrior and I re sub

[spiral coral]

What will last longer the buff or your sub

[hexed snow]

Any sky tags

[hollow plover]

this?

[hexed snow]

[vast helm]

Buffs when ?

[fresh spire]

Sky

[hollow plover]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

do u like demolish

as a spell

[shadow ibex]

Ww buff

[tribal kindle]

rend buff

[fresh spire]

I mean its alright

Rsther it function a little more like rampage

But is what it is

[hexed snow]

Remove jugg reminder 💔

[olive nest]

I cannot believe we didn’t make the tag “Zug”

Would go hard

[shadow ibex]

Delete

[weak rain]

Bot how about storm of swords buff? Maybe you want dance of death buffs?

[tribal kindle]

Arms is going to have rend + deep wounds buffs 12%+.
Shaman, hunter and mage is having their 3th rework this expansion (they definitely need it)

[dim basalt]

Youre confusing hunter with pal

[olive nest]

Buff overpower, execute, and mortal strike please

Make slam and rend one button

[untold trench]

They gonna buff deep wounds by 1000%

[olive nest]

I go back and fourth with bleeds

I feel like bleeds could be good for mass aoe

But I feel like it’s turbo boring for raid

[dim basalt]

I only want them to buff bleeds if they fix SKS

[olive nest]

I want MS OP & Exe to pipe large numbers in raid build

[hollow plover]

i want demolish to be a zero CD button that doesnt self-stun us with all 3 hits combined into 1 big hitter with max stacks being 5x colossal might

[untold trench]

Same, big fan of MS and exe being the lead dam. Now that demo and BS are here, demo should be top dam, there.

[dim basalt]

Unironically sounds fun

[hollow plover]

that unironically wasnt necessary

😭

[dim basalt]

haha

You know whats funny tho

Even if they changed demo to exactly that we wouldnt become meta dps-wise

[hollow plover]

ya unless we get dummy damage

[dim basalt]

But at least we would finally have burst again

[untold trench]

My 1000% buff would make ya meta

[olive nest]

Warrior will never be meta unless its damage is the highest

Generally that’s true for all specs in the game

Damage is king

[untold trench]

Maybe if they bring in boss events who needs shatter

[tacit crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[olive nest]

Make shattering throw instant please

Casting melee is beans!!

[hollow plover]

cleave autocasts slam with the slam part of the animation making voidelves spin in a 360° turn. Therefore cleave should be 360°. Thanks for coming to my ted talk

[tacit crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[dim basalt]

Yeah either need good aoe or insane prio damage

[celest forge]

Is it possible to have someone skim over my floodgate key log and tell me how to pump the DPS harder? Wowanalyzer is making recommendations that make no sense for my talent build. Feels like I should be doing about 20-25% more DPS at my ilvl.

Oh right there's a channel for this, disregard

[untold trench]

Easiest way to check DPS potential, is going in the log, rankings. For overall dam and boss. Sort by ilvl and bracket. If you are grey or green, you know you scuffed. Blue+ probably is just patching and pulls.

[celest forge]

I'm 46 overall and 21 for key level, so green and gray :^(

Although admittedly I did have to run out of melee range a bunch because shreddation and flamethrowers and such covered the entire playable melee area

[untold trench]

Ye, take it to #1347646810457636974 and someone will help you

Even if you get ranged by mechanics, it shouldn't be that bad. Esp on bosses

[warped prism]

Which of the resources in #dps-faq is the most accurate for our rotation? Wowhead & IV have different rotations. Particularly the colossus versions

[untold trench]

WoWhead is in general the more 'correct' one, but also crafted to be easy gameplay and be the best possible for the avg player. Some times skipping out on micro gains, for clarity.

If you got a specific question, just ask in here and the pros will answer.

[leaden meadow]

so

in m+

if you have zero collosal might stacks on boss pull

do you just do the opener with whatever stacks you ll get during it

or should we build up stacks first

[dim basalt]

Stack until 2s of CS left

Assuming you have all cds running

[leaden meadow]

wdym

[halcyon valve]

send it at whatever stacks you have before colossus smash runs out

[astral yarrow]

stack colossal might as much as possible and send it as long as its within CS window

and for the love of god, make sure cleave is on CD when you press Demolish

[outer forge]

does the entire demolish animation have to be within the CS window or does it snapshot if CS drops during?

[dim basalt]

Entire animation has to be inside the window

[outer forge]

and it's ~ 2 seconds?

[dim basalt]

I think the cast is 1.5? Im not too sure

[astral yarrow]

they are individual hits, so yea until the big frontal is done you'd like CS to be active

[halcyon valve]

haste dependent

[outer forge]

makes sense. Think I'm rolling at like 24% currently, will have to see how it times out

[leaden meadow]

does that mean i do the opener and skip demolish, then i spam as many ms as possible till 2s left on cs ?

[dim basalt]

I was assuming no pi no lust

[halcyon valve]

if in hero/lust its little more than 1 second, otherwise closer to 1.5

[dim basalt]

Imagine if the cast was always only one second 😦

It feels so good with lust

[astral yarrow]

I might be confusing what you are asking, but you dont press demolish until as late as possible in your CS window

[leaden meadow]

but i still would press all my cds right?

[leaden meadow]

and why is this btw ? xd

[dim basalt]

To maximize cleave downtime

[leaden meadow]

oh you mean in aoe

i was talking about boss

[dim basalt]

On boss you just send all cds

Except demo, for that as above

[leaden meadow]

including demolosh even without stacks?

oh

aight

[astral yarrow]

The same still applies on a boss

send demolish as late as possible in CS window to make sure it has the most stacks

Its very easy to reach 10 stacks because ravager will use 3x MS for you

[dim basalt]

Crit dependent yeah

If everything doesnt crit youre in the mud

[astral yarrow]

Less so in aoe, because you are pressing cleave/op because of Merciless Bonegrinder

[leaden meadow]

i do my best to get stacks as tank is pulling

i do get aggro quite frequently tho xd

[astral yarrow]

you can do thunderclaps and cleaves

wouldnt send ST abilities really

[dim basalt]

Only a problem with dh tbh

[leaden meadow]

but those do not give cm staacks do they?

[dim basalt]

Cleave does when it hits 3+ targets

[astral yarrow]

CM stacks isnt end all be all regardless

[leaden meadow]

do you use wreclin throw

in any dungeon

rookery mb?

[mortal ivy]

how high of a priority is thunderclap to apply rend in a big aoe pull with like 10+ targets? Do you just press it on CD until everything has rend + maintain it from there as necessary?

[hollow plover]

Rend applications are weird. They reapply immediately instead of applying to fresh targets sometimes, other times it interacts with sweeping strikes to apply to 6 targets, sometimes even 7 targets or more maybe, idfk. Even if it were to work properly, applying rend isnt worth pressing over cleave/MS during cooldowns. Those GCDs are important to be used on actual good spells.

It doesnt buff ur damage like deep wounds does so its a purely passive thing where you need to evaluate if its damage is worth pressing during CDs and it very often is not worth pressing

especially with how wonky it is

[mortal ivy]

yeah makes sense, just wanted to check haha

[teal fossil]

Pretty good

Each rend is about a MS

But yeah like the other guy said there’s some jank to it

[fresh spire]

Hi gio

[verbal marten]

gio geekin

[hollow plover]

MS gives colossal might, rend doesnt, also rend doesnt always run the full duration

[teal fossil]

Ms also hits 1.75 targets and rend hits 5

[hollow plover]

real

[shadow ibex]

Rend is lame now

[tacit crystal]

gm

[spiral coral]

Didn’t ms apply rend in DF

[verbal marten]

no

sudden death executes did tho

with s3 or 2? set

cause it did a tclap

[strange perch]

you

[tacit crystal]

pauckus

[strange perch]

yes

[tacit crystal]

p5r?

[strange perch]

bad

😎

just kidding!

[strange perch]

i am watching naruto uzumaki i am at episode 128

[tacit crystal]

i am watching one piece

[strange perch]

i heard its real

[tacit crystal]

im at 1068?

[fresh spire]

One pauck

[strange perch]

the one piece you know

[tacit crystal]

one ban

[fresh spire]

New op going hard

https://tenor.com/view/ferass18-gif-7869831930024597864

[tacit crystal]

what is the new opening

all of us

[strange perch]

no OP means One Piece

hes talking about the new netflix show

live action

OverPower

OhnePixel

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-ohnepixel-laugh-gif-5359906411467509453

[tacit crystal]

why do you hate me pauckus

[strange perch]

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaurrrrrrrrrrrr

[strange perch]

???

why would i

[sacred zodiac]

i will now spoil you

he will cast shadow clone jutsu at some point

[strange perch]

dude...

WHY

[sacred zodiac]

gotem

[strange perch]

WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAt

FUCJKNVBHJKLBHJO=GIZV/(=GDSV

[sacred zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1341410531180806214/pQG30.gif

[strange perch]

idk who anda is but cool gif

no... sasuke doesnt wanna return to konoha... this is bad.

[tacit crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1322632669720481897/makesweet-kdo7mw.gif

[strange perch]

@hollow oar please. say what you want to say.

[hollow oar]

Mis click friend

[strange perch]

:/

happy to answer every warrior question 😃

[fresh spire]

Hahahahhaha

Best meme I ever made

[strange perch]

you wanna take unhinged over hurricane because it does more damage its better

[silk spade]

Pauck

[strange perch]

hey

[fresh spire]

hey

[tacit crystal]

hej

[magic canopy]

holy fug

[strange perch]

Is that good

[magic canopy]

best in slot

[fresh spire]

Best in sky

[magic canopy]

sky tag

[hollow plover]

@magic canopy

stream?

[magic canopy]

im not even awake yet man

[hollow plover]

weak excuse

stream?

get on

lock in

AngryCat

[warped prism]

during sweeping, what is the prio between OP and MS? cleave above both ofc. IV and wowhead contradict eachother here

[thick kelp]

ms

[hexed snow]

[hexed snow]

That would be a weapon in the war within sir

[naive sage]

Why my demolish sucks ass?

[strange perch]

You need more versatility so it does more damage

[strange perch]

Gratz!!!♥️

[warped prism]

wowhead rotation here. tclap higher prio for multi target thatn MS/OP outside of sweep. but even if they have rend on them already?

and its not less than 4 seconds on that rend

[hexed snow]

Not according to APL

[warped prism]

thx. just looked up APL and am reading it now

[dim basalt]

Surely Gally kill today

[warped prism]

prob bias place to ask. well, def is. been trying to decide ret main or war dps (whichever stronger, so arms atm for keys). ngl prob leaning war

just more variety with the 2 specs since i only plan to dps

also dont care for meta

[dim basalt]

Ret is defo stronger in keys

But yeah war has more variety

[smoky kayak]

the APL was rewritten not too long ago to streamline and reduce redundancy; it doesn't actually have Sweeping Strikes checks anymore, which is why Thunder Clap is just below Mortal Strike and Overpower all the time now

However, the guide rotations still have them delineated separately, which is why TC is above MS/OP without Sweep cc: @warped prism

[valid cedar]

sim said best-in-slots and active trinket is my bis
can you even press weapon and trinket together? should i trust this? i have similar gallywix weapon with the same ilvl

[smoky kayak]

no, you offset them

[outer forge]

I make this switch frequently… I have more fun playing warrior from a rotational standpoint but there’s things about pally that are very appealing. The abilities look awesome, and there’s a lot of situations, particularly when pugging when I could save someone from dying.

[valid cedar]

rip that's too bad

[warped prism]

yeah, feel the same. im prob just gonna lean more into what i enjoy rotation wise

[outer forge]

I’m secretly coping that warrior is gonna get a cool rework and that I’ll be ahead of the curve on that and not be a fotm reroller when it happens

[dim basalt]

Arms would stay a somewhat unpopular spec though

I mean, look how it worked out for SV

[outer forge]

Indeed

[smoky kayak]

this is the main gameplay difference

• if you're the kind of person who likes spotting others and throwing out a saving LoH, cleanse, freedom, bubble, whatever, then Pally has a lot to offer
• if you're the kind who likes to focus on what you're doing and doesn't want to simultaneously hawk raid frames, then War is probably for you

[outer forge]

I'm the kind of player that's insanely indecisive lol.

[thick kelp]

I got autism 👍

[outer forge]

But really what it comes down to, is i get bored on pally, and with warrior I get a second dps spec if i get bored.

[fresh spire]

same

[outer forge]

the current iteration of arms feels mostly good too. I like the focus on beefy crits.

[thick kelp]

warrior brain role for a reason

[outer forge]

Anyone still playing wow at this point is at least a little on the spectrum

[fresh spire]

[valid cedar]

facts

[hexed snow]

+Respect

[snow flame]

[warped prism]

exactly this for me. esp since casual at dont have time for multiple alts

[wintry arch]

Cool tag check

Nice

[dim basalt]

indeed

[boreal quartz]

goon tag check

any real gooners

[fresh spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785114396573171743/1357487707172900975/reverse.gif

[boreal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-cat-rigby-gif-9770631437958675768

[tacit crystal]

get my tag

:3

[fresh spire]

me waiting for next ptr

[shadow ibex]

Hoc in my vault can't wait

[olive nest]

+1!!

[minor gust]

me waiting to read we think warrior is in a good place

[dim basalt]

Gally dead

Finally

[fresh spire]

👏

[dim basalt]

Didnt get mount tho

😦

[hexed snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516239993153519617/1382039983870705695/image.png?ex=6849b489&is=68486309&hm=2b33d768434fe30a0f0cc07d0201ec39bb3d410ca5749f3b6b13c89b6e09dddc&

[olive nest]

Grats!

[boreal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-absolute-cinema-meme-gif-11615201256306424437

[dim basalt]

I died on the kill pull as well

Like a dumbass

[sacred zodiac]

hate it when my absolute cinema morphs into ILNLEVTAT

[hexed snow]

Thats why u deserve to hold the Sky tag

[olive nest]

Hey me too! I leaped into the final rocket set before kill at like 8% boss health lmfao

[sacred zodiac]

gz noob

[hexed snow]

[olive nest]

Boss is dead on my screen!

[hexed snow]

All i need is this

[shadow ibex]

Hell yea

[old urchin]

Here’s hoping we get him tonight. Getting to P2 pretty often now. That set of little adds is booty. Crazy how high DPS is now he’s sub 50% when he transitions.

[shadow ibex]

Only thing that can wipe you is the adds

Fight is so ass

[hollow axle]

BIS gear break set on helm or chest?

[hollow plover]

GL

[dim basalt]

Bro

[hollow plover]

OH

i saw

gally dead

nice

[dim basalt]

[hollow plover]

ggs

[olive nest]

@dim basalt Goodluck on gally kill today!

[dim basalt]

Thank!

[cobalt relic]

Whats the best sim to use for a fight like OAB? Hectic add cleave? Cleave add? I'm getting different gear results depending on which I use

[olive nest]

ST boss because your add damage will be balls as arms

Tunnel boss with the exception of sweeping mouse over macro executes on the adds

[minor gust]

dont need to overcomplicate it

sim ST every boss

[stable fiber]

every boss in this raid is 5m ST, with the exception of stix, stix like doesnt matter though how much damage you do

you could sim 8 mins for a boss like gally though

[strange perch]

@tacit crystal

[cobalt relic]

Gotcha, thanks for the replies

[hazy flower]

https://tenor.com/view/комару-кот-комару-кот-котики-мем-gif-10213650814205928419

[strange perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803914265920143403/1235119160804245514/Screenshot_2024-05-01-09-41-33-246-edit_com.zhiliaoapp.gif

[quasi torrent]

true

[fresh spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/898928117136109639.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[south beacon]

is it normal for jastor diamond 671 to sim 87k lower than 2x 684 rings

thats what im getting on add cleave

[hybrid sinew]

add cleave isn't actually implented is it?

[south beacon]

in the sims ?

[hybrid sinew]

yeah

i kinda thought nothing actually worked except patchwork and # of targets

at least at one point that was the case

[south beacon]

ill try patchwerk 5 targets 1.5mins

yea 30k dps decrease with a heroic jastor

[wind lotus]

In org HV - how do you counter the shield boss's void torrent ability? It's the one that knocks you up in the air, stuns you, and then deal -75 sanity/s

[warped prism]

Anyone in here play enh as well? Cant decide war dps main or enh

[rare kite]

enhance if you want a well designed

spec

[grave mulch]

Has there been anything on the belt that coming in 11.1.7???? how will it perform for us and stuff? when do we use it??

[lilac bloom]

How to look that up?

[robust cypress]

anything weird with my sim? telling me to gem verse

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kujaRJi1uo3bGJh8wFyNGM

should I try recrafting my cloak/wrists to different stats too?

[stable fiber]

im ngl that sim isnt telling you to put vers gems on, its telling you to put a enchant on your weapon

lmfao

[robust cypress]

Ye I just got b-i-s tonight

didnt enchant it yet

[stable fiber]

i gotchu one sec

you also set your gem settings weird

since you dont have 1 of each gem on that highest simming thingy

nvm its on your wrists

[robust cypress]

ye Im simming the most amoutn of gems I can with the iterations I have

adding 1 more makes it go from 2.6mil to 8.4

and I only have 5.5

[stable fiber]

noting that strange (yes i know its stat weights, trust me)

vers gems make sense

[robust cypress]

damn

[stable fiber]

i wouldnt recraft though

id only trust stat weights for gems and enchants, never trust it with gear

[robust cypress]

I trust top gear way more than stat weights

[stable fiber]

exactly

[robust cypress]

so wait

should I sim verse enchants?

instead of cursed crit/haste?

[stable fiber]

cursed enchants are always worse than the normal +315 stat ones

well always worse if you sim your gear normally

[graceful fulcrum]

Hey all! New to warrior. Mained one back in wrath, but just coming back to it after only dabbling in it during BFA again.

[robust cypress]

Let me try a different sim

see how it looks

[stable fiber]

i can do you a ring/gem sim with your enchants

i have premium

itll take like 15 mins tho

[graceful fulcrum]

Is slam worth keeping on my action bar? Wowhead says it’s quickly replaced.

[crystal wing]

hi all. i'm coming back to warrior after having not played it since DF and i'm having the problem with arms where all of my cds are constantly completely misaligned (with the m+ colossus build)

was wondering if you guys advise to just send everything on cd or try to hold cds to send them together

[robust cypress]

I have prem as well, just not that high of iterations already 48% through 😛

[stable fiber]

ic

[stable fiber]

keep slam on action bars for all content, when you cant use MS/OP/Execute/Cleave you slam

in st raid it happens more than you think, some rare times where you need to slam 3x in a row

[graceful fulcrum]

Thank you!

[robust cypress]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p55bvX3PUXojCXzwchmKNq
4k gain is kinda within margin

oh shit it's using different kinds of verse gems

that's sick

[stable fiber]

my advice is to always use warbreaker and demolish together

ALWAYS

that would mean holding warbreaker, or holding demolish for the other one to come up

[crystal wing]

that's what my intuition was telling me to do but I feel like i'm losing so many casts

feels kinda wack

[stable fiber]

you may possibly miss casts

but buffing your demolish with warbreaker makes up for it

and i swear you never have to wait that long anyways for one or the other because of sweeping strikes

sweeping strikes effectively doubles the CDR of demolish when its up (not accounting for demolish cd passievly going down each second)

[crystal wing]

well ty

i think i might stick with fury

[stable fiber]

i was a fury one trick for like 2 years straight

then i realized how much more fun arms is

fury = machine gun but mosquito damage
arms = sniper but heavy ass hits

[limber prairie]

Fellas i did all HC raid when repu was bugged, i tried to do the raid with some alt bug can't get reputation, any help for that or just gg this week?

[robust cypress]

Fury was kinda fun

but just got really bored of it, and I hate tier sets that make us need a WA for bloodthirst

[feral umbra]

Hey Guys what do i want to Pop first with CD´s: Best in Slot or House of Cards? HoC lines better i guess?

[smoky kayak]

it's not really the tier doing that, so much as Bloodcraze

[robust cypress]

in m+ do i still use b-i-s with CS? or with demolish

[inner wasp]

hows prot gear for arms

finna learn

[thick kelp]

its good 👍

great even

[robust cypress]

Stats look good, but they look buffed as well. Im 682 with these stats

[inner wasp]

ITF probably

[nova marsh]

Guys can a toaster still run wow?

[inner wasp]

non

wow harder to run than cyberpunk sometimes

[nova marsh]

I'm fuckin cooked.

...on a laptop

My PC died.

[inner wasp]

put the laptop on a shag carpet to keep it comfortable

comfy laptop better fps

[nova marsh]

I'm trying to think of games I can platy

that won't literally demolish this laptop from the inside out....and right now the answer is not many

[inner wasp]

donkey kong (1981)

[nova marsh]

LMAO

[merry stone]

Wow classic

[robust cypress]

curseforge

[nova marsh]

I mean actually ur not wrong

But fuck classic

[merry stone]

Not going to help you anyway, MOP Classic is next

And that’s when they really started to ramp things up with lighting and shading effects

[nova marsh]

I'll just play sod

Or aniveresy ig, idk man realizing how shit this laptop is is kinda funny

[balmy kindle]

My condolences, time for a new laptop

[nova marsh]

Bro I'm already dropping 2 grand on a new pc

Fuck that

Time to go through my back log on steam!

[robust cypress]

why are you dropping 2 grand on a pc?

[inner wasp]

fps

[solemn charm]

Project Diablo 2

[worthy mortar]

guys is arms ok on galywix myth? i switched from fury so was wondering is it good?

[fresh spire]

Both are fine

[robust cypress]

Fury is better at nuking adds, arms is better at killing the boss

[wind lotus]

Any suggestions?

Guess no one has done it :c

[balmy kindle]

Personally never bothered with it after unlocking the greater enchants

[worthy mortar]

should i always try to x2 execute +x2 overpower into mortal strike? like that is ideal right?

[boreal quartz]

Ms on CD outside of execute

Inside execute play according to prio (not collecting all buffs)

[worthy mortar]

aah okok ty

[worthy mortar]

MS proc always prio consuming right?

[boreal quartz]

Yea

Best spell you have

Getting the most casts is good

[worthy mortar]

damn i was missing then a lot of them xd

[subtle vessel]

How does the Multitarget/AoE rotation look like when on the Raid talents and you have no cleave?

Do you just use sweeping strikes and do your nomal rotation, or doe you ever use whirlwind?

[dim basalt]

Theres not a single encounter where you think about aoe this tier

And all you do is use SS

[subtle vessel]

so on stuff like Rik Bombs you just SS and hit one bomb? If you don't have baldestorm?

[dim basalt]

ye

Tho I only hit boss because adds die quickly

Not worth targeting

Unless for jugg ig

[subtle vessel]

"jugg"?

what is "jugg"? xD

[astral yarrow]

juggernaut

talent second to last row on the spec tree right side

[subtle vessel]

ohh yeah, to hit an execute on a low live barrel

[dim basalt]

The worst designed talent we have

[astral yarrow]

Id argue design is ok, tuning of it along with how it interacts with slayer makes it an atrocity

having performance sort of tied to carrying 15 stacks into execute feels terrible

[worthy mortar]

What secondary stat u guys have Best in Slot set?

[quasi torrent]

juggernussy

[astral yarrow]

my beloved

[thick kelp]

Pile On

[unreal halo]

hey guys

just got the BIS, when should i use it?

[hollow plover]

depends on if u have an on-use trinket

[hexed snow]

Jugg to 5 stacks 👀

[fresh spire]

Just need jug to be 6 seconds 5 stacks 10% damage

And all the cringe gameplay surrounding it dies instantly

[boreal quartz]

Does it

Then its just ultra gamba

No?

[dim basalt]

Im not totally sold on the 6s part

[bronze shuttle]

Wowhead guide says to Execute over slam even without other conditions, Maxroll and Icyveins say to only execute when the conditions are met and never with just sudden death only. Which is actually true

[hollow plover]

jackpot?

I think i won the roll

Nod

[fresh spire]

Beginners guide isn't following 100% to the tee with sudden death usage.

The advanced part is completely ignoring the last line and doing the top execute line only.

[untold sandal]

stick to condition based execute

[hollow plover]

Your SD proc doesnt go away by your clicking slam as a filler so this 9th line is actually kinda troll

[astral yarrow]

kaching is all i need in life

[calm hollow]

@thick kelp finally reached peak performance

[hollow plover]

sick gear mate

[fresh spire]

Holy

[boreal quartz]

Now race change to higher dam race cluegi

Tmy will flame u for lack of terts

[sharp wyvern]

Just needs eye of kezan for gallywix now

[calm hollow]

last Cartel chip will be

only 3 weeks

[sharp wyvern]

I hope I get it in vault cause i still want gallywix weapon for fury offhand

Then i can have bis for both specs

[calm hollow]

Being Void elf, yikes

[boreal quartz]

Happy you didnt abbreviate it

[hollow plover]

finally someone gets it

how do you feel that a 4/8 player will outsim you

[boreal quartz]

Im so happy orc is bis in cata and mop

Finally i can be green again

[calm hollow]

VE is like 10k dps for me, over troll, so cba

[unreal halo]

Got house of cards

[hollow plover]

use HoC with Ava together, use best in slots with the next following CS/WB that comes back up through anger management

if ur playing fury at times, same rule applies - you use BIS with the Reck you get early through anger management

[calm hollow]

Rik neck > Kezan

[fresh spire]

Can buy trinket can't buy neck

[hollow plover]

man i want that neck so bad

[sharp wyvern]

For 7/8 fights that's true

Eye is only good on gally

[calm hollow]

i have hc kezan, good placeholder

[sharp wyvern]

Hc eye doesn't sim higher for me even at 7 min

[fresh spire]

Hc eye dogshit

[calm hollow]

maybe its the same for me too, let me check

[unreal halo]

ty bro

[calm hollow]

hmmge

on gally probs better

this is 5min

[sharp wyvern]

Why sim 5 min when swimming for gally

[dim basalt]

Love swimming for Gally

[sharp wyvern]

This is worse than when it autocorrected fyrakk into frank

[calm hollow]

hc kezan still bis on 8 mins

over other trinks

[sharp wyvern]

Probably cause you have less mastery than me

Hc eye is worse than lockenstock trinket for me on gally

[fresh spire]

Lack of haste/mastery I guess

Locken gives like 2k haste ?

[thick kelp]

eaaasy

[boreal quartz]

Frank is his name tho

[sharp wyvern]

My guild did call him frank from there onwards

[shadow ibex]

Tier just end plz

[hollow plover]

1.7k ye

[leaden meadow]

is it a bad idea to craft weapon

[tacit crystal]

no

[hollow plover]

its a great idea if u cant reliably get a myth weapon

does ascendance beat myth weps for arms?

or ascension i think its called

[copper stump]

In generell Arms and fury are pretty close in raid ST, right?

Talking about mistakes in Rotation (which I 100% do), which specc is More forgiving?

I really enjoy arms and the fat crits
(Btw non warrior main)

[dusky dirge]

전사좀 리워크해라 블리자드 씨발놈들아

[astral yarrow]

lol

[tacit crystal]

real

[astral yarrow]

shibal

[tacit crystal]

that guy speaks the truth

[hollow plover]

aaah shibal the warriors rework them

[hollow plover]

fury is more forgiving

but like, as long as you have the basics down ur chilling

arms is a lot of learning when to execute and really getting used to consuming opportunist

[slow saddle]

Fury is easier

[hollow plover]

fury is all about not pressing shit buttons over raging blow

lol

[slow saddle]

Vs playing arms perfectly

[icy zinc]

At least in ST I feels like you can't really mess up on arms.

[hollow plover]

What ?

[slow saddle]

Hmm so u get juggernaut stacks

Carried into execute??

[hollow plover]

"oh fuck i consumed sudden death too early, my entire damage is gone gg"

[slow saddle]

Everytime

Or my fav

I pressed it correct time. My dmg is still gone

[hollow plover]

tf? i just bought a champ track weapon from the horrific visions vendor for my alt and its not warbound?

whats that about

[slow saddle]

U gotta beat it completely?

And buy something for it to be warbound?

[hollow plover]

u need those achievements or whatever

i got em

and i bought the book that makes all purchases warbound

nice joke thanks blizz

[icy zinc]

I guess I was thinking pressing over power instead of MS on a reset is not a huge damage loss 😅 stuff like that.

[onyx rapids]

wrong place to ask but have no other place to ask, so please forgive me.
Does anyone know Hunter and Paladin discord channel?!

[hollow plover]

well no one likes paladins but alas here's the community server links https://www.wowhead.com/discord-servers

reminder: fuck paladins

or more specifically

fuck ret paladins

[dim basalt]

I mean even that one depends

If both proc, its OP

[hollow plover]

that's kinda cope tho ngl

[dim basalt]

And not using OP procs (properly) is a pretty decent dps los

[hollow plover]

pretty big dps loss innit

[dim basalt]

ye

[icy zinc]

I just think you lose more damage playing fury bad. But it doesn't really matter. Noone is optimizing for playing the class wrong.

[hollow plover]

Absolutely not.

on fury you can simply press whichever button lights up and you can get a 90+ parse in pure ST assuming good uptime and not being an idiot about general fight stuff

if you simply press whatever lights up as arms, you get a 60

[dim basalt]

If you dont know any better, just spam raging blow and rampage

[hollow plover]

^

[onyx rapids]

Thanks a million Kronzo.
I really appreciate it.
Trying protection pally lol

[tacit crystal]

me when swordish plays fury without wa

and he just gaps everyone

[hollow plover]

prot pal is chill

just a bit frail

i hope u enjoy it

just please dont reroll to ret

[copper stump]

Yes but my Fingers suffer badly … I really enjoy Arms more

[hollow plover]

🤔

i mean i guess ?

if u struggle with fury apm

stay arms

Ok

[copper stump]

Yes I will

Thx for the insights

I just Need to get gud

[onyx rapids]

Have been maining warrior from vanilla and will never change!! long live Warriors

[hollow plover]

weakauras do 80% of the work

for arms

#1237307732705415228 message

specifically these ones

[copper stump]

Unknown

Pm?

[hollow plover]

wat

how is that unknown

ok

[copper stump]

I cant see the Channel