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scenic sequoia
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or u googled it

hollow plover
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hes googling it

tacit crystal
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?

scenic sequoia
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5

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4

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3

hollow plover
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YEP

scenic sequoia
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2

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1

hollow plover
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YEP

tacit crystal
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east of israel

scenic sequoia
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gg

tacit crystal
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no

scenic sequoia
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too late

olive nest
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egypt!?

tacit crystal
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west

hollow plover
scenic sequoia
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AHHAHA

scenic sequoia
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EAST

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LMAO

tacit crystal
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bro

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west

hollow plover
scenic sequoia
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gg gio confirmed bad at geography

hollow plover
thick kelp
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Geography is illegal in NA

tacit crystal
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gg gala bad at parsing

thick kelp
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what did we expect

hollow plover
tacit crystal
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nein

thick kelp
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no 💀

hollow plover
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good

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imagine being from that place

scenic sequoia
scenic sequoia
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thats why gio gave up pvp

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he couldn't get good

hollow plover
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@tacit crystal do u wanna be german

tacit crystal
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nein

hollow plover
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why not

scenic sequoia
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better than american tbh

hollow plover
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have you tried?

hollow plover
tacit crystal
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give me an eu account bud

scenic sequoia
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asking for handouts?

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pfft

hollow plover
tacit crystal
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(i wont play)

scenic sequoia
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gio this is a very important question

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cats or dogs

tacit crystal
hollow plover
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gio is a dog guy

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yep

hollow plover
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dawg

scenic sequoia
shadow ibex
scenic sequoia
hollow plover
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on a saturday ?

magic canopy
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Yuh

scenic sequoia
hollow plover
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elaborate please

magic canopy
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3 10 hour shifts on the weekend then rest of the week off

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Kinda owns

scenic sequoia
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:O

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thats huge

tacit crystal
magic canopy
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We have 2 rn guy named defiled and guy named Skye

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But Skye plays a lot of stuff so I didn't thinkhe's actually just DH guy

tacit crystal
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i need to study a dh player

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but after hitting the dummy i have most of it down

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i love having a 20 global opener though

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imo sigil hunt glaive felbalde beam cs eb dance flip meta dance cs cs beam sigil

hollow plover
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peeps its my bday tomorrow

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turning 24

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guess what im doing to celebrate

tacit crystal
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get kebab liike a german

hollow plover
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?xd

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döner is too common

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nothing special

tacit crystal
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dont knwo what that is

hollow plover
tacit crystal
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you knwo what i want today

hollow plover
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me

tacit crystal
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i want to have ice cream

hollow plover
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real

dire hinge
hollow plover
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why did you cast a bad omen upon me hrothmar

dire hinge
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No bad omens here 🥰

hollow plover
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i just found out that its a german thing

dire hinge
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Just spell reflect it right at 11:59

hollow plover
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birthday wishes on the day(s) before being a bad omen and hella bad luck

dire hinge
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Oh! I had no idea I’m sorry, good to knowwww

hollow plover
dire hinge
shadow ibex
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Jug death

hollow plover
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Raaaa

dim basalt
hollow plover
dim basalt
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10% Arms 90% Fury does not count

hollow plover
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I swap every week

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this ID is our first reclear ok

tacit crystal
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i play fury too

hollow plover
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we all do

tacit crystal
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i have like 3 kills on mythic lol

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maybe 5

hollow plover
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gio

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i have a thick german accent

tacit crystal
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ok

sacred zodiac
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gio confirmed woke

hollow plover
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thats exactly how i wanted to react to your proclamation of saying u play fury too

tacit crystal
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how am i woke

void bay
hollow plover
untold trench
hollow plover
untold trench
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what?

hollow plover
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wdym i dont

untold trench
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wdym?

hollow plover
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???????

untold trench
hollow plover
untold trench
hollow plover
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lil jon - get low

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blast this rn

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pls

untold trench
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I am extremely bored, que simulator is killing me sadge

untold trench
hollow plover
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did you just TSK in the mic

tacit crystal
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misinput

hollow plover
untold trench
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Gio when he meets up with Gala

hollow plover
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ping him if ur gonna talk about him

untold trench
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I dont need to, he reads all I write with fervor

shadow ibex
tacit crystal
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its me when i have 15 jug and am at the behest of procs

shadow ibex
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When I hold bs cuz I don't wanna be spinning when jug ticks down

tacit crystal
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real

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me when i hold bs for 10s waiting for a sd that wont arrive

hollow plover
tacit crystal
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ill do it every time if boss is at 40%

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or less

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and im at over 12

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idc

hollow plover
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if jugg has 10s duration left

tacit crystal
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all i see

hollow plover
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meaning u just clicked exe basically

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why hold

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?

tacit crystal
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me want more sd

hollow plover
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you can get SD while in bladestorm

tacit crystal
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surely the chances of you getting sd while in bs are less than aaing and casting other spells

hollow plover
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i think you are confused

thick kelp
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hit everything on CD and if god allows the jugg to get extended it gets extended

shadow ibex
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Kill god

swift crown
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Hit Execute as soon as it becomes available

tacit crystal
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kill jug

swift crown
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Alhamdulillah

shadow ibex
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If God allows jug he is malevolent

tacit crystal
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Alhamdulillah

shadow ibex
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Epicurus was right

hollow plover
tacit crystal
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theres no wya man

swift crown
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More hits

tacit crystal
swift crown
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How is there no way Giofiveseven

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I flipping hate Sudden Death

tacit crystal
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because not aaing

hollow plover
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you AA in bladestorm

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mate

tacit crystal
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????

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what

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theres just no way

swift crown
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Consider

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You Bladestorm at 0 Rage

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It gives you 10 Rage every time it deals damage

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You leave Bladestorm at full rage

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Chessmate

hollow plover
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Gio just learned how to play arms 1 day ago

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true

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(true

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)

swift crown
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(True)

hollow plover
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real

tacit crystal
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better than most of skyhold

swift crown
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Powder that makes you say real

hollow plover
swift crown
tacit crystal
hollow plover
tacit crystal
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how

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there are 42k people online

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even more prob offline

swift crown
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If you're not better than most of Skyhold you probably need to hit some dummies

hollow plover
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^

tacit crystal
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how is it a wild take though

hollow plover
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most skyhold members dont know when to consume opportunist

tacit crystal
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neither does swordish clueless

hollow plover
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swordish also didnt track jugg

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until i gave him a weakaura

tacit crystal
hollow plover
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and he still gaps u

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(and me)

tacit crystal
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swordish gladge okayge gajeel

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guys i keep reciting the havoc opener in my head

hollow plover
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what was the havoc pre pull tech again?

tacit crystal
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immo sigil hunt

hollow plover
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not that

tacit crystal
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dont really need more fury it seems

hollow plover
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the one where u eye beam

tacit crystal
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do you mean before a dungeon or

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you just get eyebeam meta and meta before key

hollow plover
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not before key

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before raid pull

tacit crystal
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dont know enough about it to give answer

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all apl says is sigil immo

hollow plover
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was it restless hunter?

tacit crystal
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idk i legit opener iv yday

eager sigil
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reaver opener is easy

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the felscarred one is bad

tacit crystal
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good thing its not being played

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🙂

hollow plover
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gio i hope u jump into the gallywix hole

tacit crystal
minor gust
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Just hit your buttons

tacit crystal
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yeah its legit use cds on cd do opener well

hollow plover
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bro explained wow combat gg

minor gust
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I tried boomy for 5 minutes yesterday. Prob the most boring horrible spec in the game right now

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Your dots are basically perma and your just pressing Starfire and starfall

tacit crystal
hexed snow
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Sudden Death procs is absolutely the worst feeling when you dont get one over the next 15 seconds

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it is so sad

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its even worse when its 1 second left of jugg, you click something else and then you get it

boreal quartz
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losing a 15 at 36.01%

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rip log xddd

hexed snow
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Honestly so sad

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Make jugg 20 seconds will fix it clueless

boreal quartz
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its great really

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you check the r1 log

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whats he doing

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80% ms crit - 15 jugg entire fight

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very skill dependant honestly

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player gapped

hexed snow
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Honestly bro

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just get good

lean wraith
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guys anyone experiencing a combat bug on their warr?

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im currently stuck in combat

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ive walked across full azj kanet

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still not dropped

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3rd time its happened, in diff zones too

dire hinge
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It happens less frequently now but yeah is just kinda buggy sometimes. You can try dying and staying dead for a few minutes to let things reset

lean wraith
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i had to restart client, didnt fix

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so i hearthed

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which did, but now ive come back and there is zero world quests

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...

sacred zodiac
tacit crystal
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i can fix her

shadow ibex
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Last time it wasn't

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Bfa

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Maybe we were too unkind to bfa arms 340% mastery

quasi torrent
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(it didnt)

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str made your mastery do more dmg than mastery who cares

midnight mural
quasi torrent
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its pretty bad 👍

candid crater
thick kelp
eager nexus
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Where is our chat gpt mid expac retrospective

boreal quartz
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ping mr gpt and ask him

eager nexus
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I cant afford to be banned in another class discord for arguing with mods

onyx pawn
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New arms. I’ve got the weakaura for SD that everyone always talks about. In execute range though I send Execute as normal rage dump right? There isn’t some meta game I need to play sub 20% health?

eager sigil
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repeat

hollow plover
onyx pawn
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Thanks

dire hinge
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I fix

dim basalt
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Just date lol

drifting geode
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Dose anyone use this?? i do it works fine in m+ and normal ST on the dummys but when i go in to raid it doesn't work? dose anyone know why

astral yarrow
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is it loaded when inside a raid?

drifting geode
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yeah i think? its always there and when i switch from m+ to raid talents i hit the dummys etc its fine then just dosent work in raid haha

shadow ibex
quasi torrent
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apologists cause of hahah 20000% haste can fuck off

shadow ibex
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Better than jug gamba

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Doesn't matter what you do pre 35

sacred zodiac
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not really

shadow ibex
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Just get your lucid

naive sage
quasi torrent
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love that we have 16 azerite talents and the class did less than tanks without triple stacking one of them

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crazy Design

naive sage
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You had BotE too

shadow ibex
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hate tom all you want idc

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the most fun playing arms in the past 10 years is getting CS/ToM overlap

quasi torrent
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idk i pressed 1 button

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if u disabled dps meter u wouldn't have known u did dmf

shadow ibex
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we had a few degen exe spam patches

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even with EP

boreal glade
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Do yall still have that spell reflect spreadsheet?

shadow ibex
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abberus was exe spam even

naive sage
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Bfa was the last time Bladestorm dealt damage

icy mulch
shadow ibex
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abberus was 1 step above CN imo

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ill die on a hill no one will fight me on

fast dust
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gonna be honest, i have the impression that i suck a lot in raid

dreamy sandal
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Bois, will any of the timewalking trinkets in the coming weeks be relevant for arms/fury warrior?

sacred zodiac
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probably not

latent hull
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fight me

rare kite
quasi torrent
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👍

dim basalt
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Aberrus was nice imo

shadow ibex
latent hull
shadow ibex
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ppl forget KT

latent hull
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every fight in nathria

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was pogger

shadow ibex
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SLG is like top 5 worst ever

quasi torrent
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me when
slg
council of blood

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those are FFFFFF bosses

shadow ibex
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just awful fights

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but at least i got to reflect stuff on lady dark vein

quasi torrent
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daddy d was good, sludge was good

shadow ibex
rare kite
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slg tru... basically killed the guild i was in

quasi torrent
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inerva was neat

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doesn't balance out council + slg combo tho ngl

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(still better raid than sanctum of dn)

shadow ibex
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council probably least liked fight ive done

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rather do fatescribe

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thats close tho

latent hull
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i dont remember council

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cuz evveryy time id start hte fight my game crashed

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my laptop was so bad

teal fossil
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Huntsman altimor

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My goat

shadow ibex
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arms fight yay

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gapped by boomie critcake

magic canopy
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good times

zinc wolf
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Slg killed my will to play this game

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Also it was during time when switching coven was still pain the ass

astral yarrow
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but that meaningful choice felt so good

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🙂

teal fossil
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you dot up one of the shades

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and ask your boomy to be on hibernate duty

shadow ibex
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When we got to m Danny and I had "free" change I went banner until break time

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Then back to nf

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I miss AA 😦

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I'll trade spear and roar

eager sigil
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@midnight mural

midnight mural
eager sigil
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yea

midnight mural
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😄

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need 4 kills for dinar

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on warr #3

eager sigil
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i need a house of cards on my druid

midnight mural
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sadge cant need on it :[ (to trade it)

swift crown
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Warrior #3 only to listen to calls by a scotsman named Egg

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gg

leaden meadow
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is it bad to use ss right before pull in m+

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maybe with charge

fresh spire
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Egg

gleaming cosmos
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Just trying to clear up some confusion about Arms after reading WoWhead guide,

Is there a target count where we dont Mortal Strike and just cleave instead?

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Also my good friend wants to know of Demolish comes up during SS do you hold it till after SS ends?

hollow plover
gleaming cosmos
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Oh oops I forgot to say during sweeping strikes is the target count different? @hollow plover

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Or maybe you understood my question anyway haha

hollow plover
hollow plover
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Cleave itself casts a slam at 2 targets

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which gets swept by SS

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just send cleave at 3+ targets

hollow plover
gleaming cosmos
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Just because demolish would eat into the SS time

hollow plover
gleaming cosmos
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Fair fair ty 🙂

grave jackal
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Anyone got a battle stance/defensive stance macro?

hollow plover
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/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance```
grave jackal
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ty

fast wedge
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When does crit start to DR?

slow saddle
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Tbh m8 who knows, who cares.robot decides when its 2 much anyways

hollow plover
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sim your available gear, droptimize potential gear drops - use what comes out ahead

grand idol
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Thats crits secret. Its always dr'ing.

hollow zephyr
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i just posted logs from a 13 i ran. really feel like my damage is stagnant. i believe i have to be missing something. If anyone has the time and wouldnt mind taking a look i would appreciate it

steady coral
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Dear more experienced amrs bros. I try to understand priority of my skills in aoe situation. I undertand that cleave is my priority but when its on CD should i press overpower to fish for resets or go mortal strike?

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of course outside ss

hollow plover
steady coral
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Thanks!

grave jackal
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Do any of you guys use a collateral damage weak aura?

hollow plover
grave jackal
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Ok, is there any weak auras that are needed in your opinion

grave jackal
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Thanks Kronzo

leaden meadow
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is it bad to use ss right before pull in m+ maybe with charge

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most guides i found use it in the middle of the opener

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feels horrible pressing that

hollow plover
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If ur in a +12 then it really doesnt matter

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if you're in a +16 and shit lives for a while, please dont SS early

leaden meadow
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aight thanks

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i will not xD

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So this is from wowhead

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why do we nott avatar before roar, it increases all the damage no?

tacit crystal
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initialt hit does 0 damage

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you care about the dot

leaden meadow
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i see

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would it make sense to use ss and wait for the next global (warbreaker cast) to use aavatar?

hollow plover
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btw how come wowhead wants us to ava during SS

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instead of during warbreaker

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whatsup with that

leaden meadow
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yeah using ava with ss feels like aa wasted global no?

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1 second of ava wasted

hollow plover
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half global

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but alas

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check sims if ur unsure

tacit crystal
leaden meadow
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thats a mistery i always been curious about, should we really be mimicing the sim rotation? xD

tacit crystal
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in what sense

hollow plover
leaden meadow
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u know u can see the exact buttons sim bot presses

tacit crystal
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i mean the robot just presses what the apl says to

leaden meadow
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oh really

hollow plover
leaden meadow
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i thought it has some AI deciding on the optimal rotation or smtn

hollow plover
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no

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its a tested APL by the theorycrafters

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they optimize the shit outta that

leaden meadow
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so wdym APL ? sorry abut my ignorance xD

swift crown
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Action Priority List

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Just a list of instructions with conditionals where at every step the sim will determine the highest priority action and execute it

hollow plover
leaden meadow
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is it documented?

hollow plover
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yes

tacit crystal
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yeah

leaden meadow
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where can i find it

tacit crystal
leaden meadow
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ty a lot

swift crown
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Guides (should) do nothing but try to rephrase the APL into a more condensed, more approachable priority

hasty pumice
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for higher M+ keys, is it smart (or do people even do it) to bind Def stance and then add /cast Battle Stance to pmuch all GCDs to avoid some quick bursts of damage

tacit crystal
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no?

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just have 1 stance macro

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and press it as a wall

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you should still do rotation in dstance

hollow plover
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click this to stance swap

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put it on an easily accessible keybind

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so you dont grief yourself

hasty pumice
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tyvm 🙏

hollow plover
swift crown
leaden meadow
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do we ever use the thing ( forgot the name) with zero colossal might stacks?

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or lets say it is up and we have no stacks

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whats the play?

hasty pumice
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demolish? nah, with sweeping strikes you can very quickly stack it up to 10

leaden meadow
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wb st?

hollow plover
leaden meadow
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aight ty

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is our st outclassed by most specs in m+ or am i bad?

hollow plover
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not insanely good ST

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but we're eating well

leaden meadow
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even with m+ build?

hollow plover
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compared to other ST builds, yes

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or sry

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comapred to other m+ builds**

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i pretty much never lose in boss dam

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and if i do lose, only barely

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in keys

leaden meadow
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the opener is pretty much same with aoe just no cleave right?

hollow plover
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colossus arms is all about using MS on cooldown in single target

leaden meadow
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is exe ever higher prio?

hollow plover
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if you run executioners precision then you exe 2x before clicking MS

leaden meadow
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which we usually dont in m+ i suppose?

hollow plover
candid pecan
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we dont ratge

hollow plover
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if u wanna run bloodborne

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then run bloodborne

charred brook
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You can run it I guess in certain keys but I haven’t seen anybody swapping out for it tbh

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Most people aren’t running any exe talents at all in the highest keys

hollow plover
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in title range keys yea thats fair

dim basalt
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Still just a replacement of slam because exe does no damage without jugg

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Plus you wouldn't have enough rage to do it for long anyway

hollow plover
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actions.colossus_execute+=/mortal_strike,if=debuff.executioners_precision.stack=2&!buff.ravager.up|!talent.executioners_precision|talent.battlelord&debuff.executioners_precision.stack>0
actions.colossus_execute+=/overpower,if=rage<90
actions.colossus_execute+=/execute,if=rage>=40&talent.executioners_precision
actions.colossus_execute+=/overpower
actions.colossus_execute+=/bladestorm
actions.colossus_execute+=/wrecking_throw
actions.colossus_execute+=/execute```
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it does slightly change priority

dim basalt
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Gl doing that for longer than 10 seconds

thick kelp
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gl doing less dam

hollow plover
dim basalt
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😎

fresh spire
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can't follow EP rules in keys if you don't run ep

dim basalt
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Someone gets it

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Anyway

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Daily reminder that jugg needs to be removed

hollow plover
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Amen

fresh spire
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curious what interesting stuff will come from 2.0

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thats if blizzard feel kind enough to do some changes

dim basalt
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2.0?

fresh spire
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yeh the next raid tier

dim basalt
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Oh

fresh spire
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i would write the first part but im at that point where i forgot

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😄

dim basalt
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If we get anything it should be announced somewhat soon-ish

fresh spire
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.7 in like 4 weeks (maybe?), 2.0 news probs soonish

dim basalt
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I think SV rework came with the same ptr patch

fresh spire
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sv returns to a range spec hmmNod

dim basalt
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Nah its good as it is

fresh spire
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:c

dim basalt
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Old SV as 4th spec tho

fresh spire
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i want plays to enjoy panda survival enough to want it back

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then it comes back (yep)

dim basalt
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Yep.

fresh spire
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could have easily made it some insane hybrid flexy spec but nah had to make it a outlaw rogue with bombs deadge

heady shale
fresh spire
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uhh

dim basalt
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Sometime in winter

fresh spire
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next year at this point imo

dim basalt
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Prepatch prob dec

fresh spire
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i need a calender so i can visualise it

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sec

heady shale
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S3 July/August? So add 4-5 months onto that

fresh spire
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soooo 2.0 is like august.....26th

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if the time ways is anything to go off

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add 24 weeks for 2.0

heady shale
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S3 won't have raid, no? Only fated

fresh spire
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imo no fated

heady shale
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Last season never does

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Since most Devs work on next expac raid already

fresh spire
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they said something like they wanted expansions out every 1.5years or something

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with bosses dropping 3 mounts instead of 2 i could see no fated

heady shale
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S3 gonna be void/bandage guys Mythic+ theme plus some fillers

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To open up to void expac

fresh spire
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somewhere around end of jan is my expectation for next expan

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also considering we get remix in winter

heady shale
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I don't think they'll touch warrs until next expac

fresh spire
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we likely will get tweeks in 2.0

heady shale
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When we'll receive BL on tank spec deadge

fresh spire
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But major changes coming in the future exp copium

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surely jug dies in 2.0 or at least gets nerfed down to be less cringe with bladestorm channel time reduced 🙏

dim basalt
#

Surely

heady shale
#

Demolish is awkward/cringe too

dim basalt
#

Maybe also remove crit damage modifiers

heady shale
#

And decouple Rally Cry from raid and boost it

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  • AM passive baseline
dim basalt
#

Remove AM instead

heady shale
#

If you don't get CDR you get sluggish

dim basalt
#

I guess we need a bigger rework then hm

heady shale
#

AM makes warr fluid

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Else it's a snooze fest Slam spam

dim basalt
#

And makes cds worse

minor gust
#

remove AM revert back to legion

heady shale
dim basalt
#

Imagine if Ravager and BS did any damage

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Like actual cds

heady shale
#

Ravager is rage gen

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Not giga offense cd

minor gust
#

let arms have meaninful procs again

heady shale
#

Also we need leap recode to 2025 since the "No path available" is silly comparing to DH jump

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Like you can't leap down from Lich boss in ToP lmao

minor gust
#

but you dont need to leap down

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just jump

heady shale
#

Was an example of silly path calculations

shadow ibex
#

Delete dance of death

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Or rework idc if it's good

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Just sick of looking at a leveling talent

vital mortar
#

Hey guys im trying to make a weak aura to track my sudden death but i cant find the correct sudden death ID for it

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anyone got the right one? there are like a dozen of different sudden deaths on wowhead and i keep trying them and none work

sacred zodiac
#

you can just type sudden death in the aura name and it should find the right one

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otherwise just nab the weakaura that should be in #updates-midnight and rip off of that

minor gust
shadow ibex
#

Nah that effect has no business being near a capstone

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Move a niche talent to mid not a bottom row choice

minor gust
#

hence giga buff

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im talkin like 30 sec long ravager and a 40% dmg buff for 10 sec after killing shit with BS

shadow ibex
#

Imp sweeping is a niche pick. Like 3 uses

minor gust
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problem with dance of death is shit is niche af but super fucking weak

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so one of those issues needs to change

untold trench
minor gust
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either rework to not be so fucking niche or make it giga op

minor gust
#

so would strickly be a raid add thing

untold trench
#

You will use it as a hurricane amp effect

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no question

shadow ibex
#

Honestly I rather it just consume rage and amp bs

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Idc something dumb anything but on kill bs

minor gust
#

the bladestorm part about dance of death is my least favorite

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I think the ravager part is cool

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just needs to be good

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gally intermission adds die and yo ravager just like 30 seconds long

shadow ibex
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At this point I just want new mechanics

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Let me cast during bs

minor gust
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id be down for that

gaunt owl
#

call me when they start real design idea

minor gust
#

see you in 10 years

shadow ibex
#

Been the same button since forever

magic canopy
#

Turn BS into Breath but rage spent be like Vergil summon swords

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Oh wait they gave that potential idea to ret pallies sorry everyone we just remain bland so the pink class is allowed everything

shadow ibex
#

P much

minor gust
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a gilgamesh ranged spec would go so hard

shadow ibex
#

They designed us into a corner

minor gust
#

just summoning swords and shooting it at people

shadow ibex
#

And they said no blademaster cuz we must be beholden to 30 year old lore

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Surely that's more important than a spec having some identity

minor gust
#

well you had ghost sword complainers

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so sounds like blizz is valid in no magic

magic canopy
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Any honor or glory theme sucked away by the holystrike menace

shadow ibex
#

Every class adheres to some archetype you can see in major npcs

magic canopy
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When I think warrior is Saurfang (arms) and Varien (single minded fury btw)

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Very funny

minor gust
#

is there even any NPC out there that dual wields 2 2hs

magic canopy
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Do we even have a prot warrior rep

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Like ever

shadow ibex
#

Lothremar or smth

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But I mean even within enemy npcs

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Like you see a priest mob in a dungeon

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You know it has smite, Holy fire etc

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If it's a void dungeon, probably some type of channeled beam

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An aoe fear

magic canopy
#

Like even in horrific visions the NPC we get for warrior in the north area spams whirlwind like

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Lmao

shadow ibex
#

Yea usually a bladestorm

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Or a leap

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Like orcs in the titan dungeon from df

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Maybe a mortal strike on the tank

minor gust
#

Blizz just really loves that WW animation

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gotta use it in every single thing

naive sage
#

We need to form a warrior council to fill in the missing warrior dev spot

shadow ibex
#

Wait until 11.2 feedback

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Yay

minor gust
#

thats the one thing I would love to see in an interview or something showing how they handle the class design process. We don't know exactly how they work and all we get told is to just post your feedback in forums and hope it gets recognized, which it usually doesnt.

shadow ibex
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I'm gonna finish off every post in bold explaining them confusing warbringer and warbreaker

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So everyone knows where we all stand

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They'll say all the stuff about internal testing and their goals blah blah blah but at end of the day still spent like 1.3 expacs not knowing talent names

waxen bramble
#

Any idea how to see "Seismic reverberation" in details? Feels like I'm missing it to get to the same amount of my sim

magic canopy
#

Cleave should have an arrow that when you click it shows the separate damage of seismic

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Unless not talented perhaps?

waxen bramble
#

Double-checked but it is talented. Weird I don't have this arrow :/

magic canopy
#

Is details updated? Might be a version issue works for me

quasi torrent
#

could be some plugin/script that combines dmg sources even tighter

waxen bramble
#

I have a weird suspicion that it just doesnt exists :/ I have the exact same hits amount than my sim over the course of 3 minutes but there is 100'000 dmg missing which weirdly accounts for the same supposed dmg of Seismic Reverberation (which i can't find anywhere).

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tried talent-out/talent-in

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doesn't work

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Just re-runned one 3 minutes dummies, got the following result:
58 cleave hits (against 55 in the sim), account for 301K M dmgs. Adding the 51M dmg from the Slam (8th Row), I end up with 352K M dmgs instead of the 472 I'm supposed to have

quasi torrent
#

hit cleave once
check details number of hits

thick kelp
#

against 3 targets ofc

shadow ibex
#

Yea just hit 3 targets. Should see 4 hits if it's working

#

Min hit of 88k sounds right?

#

Iirc tooltip is a few hundred thousand

quasi torrent
#

ya it does

magic canopy
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Should see 6 hits

#

If 3 tar

trail sage
#

Finally ❤️

minor gust
#

gz cant wait to get mine its a banger mount

trail sage
#

ya, Ansurek was meh ... but this one is really nice

quasi torrent
#

ugly af from the back (the perspective u actually get)

sacred zodiac
solar quarry
#

is gallywix mythic frontal based baited on ranged? or all?

sharp wyvern
#

everyone who doesnt have a blaze

waxen bramble
fresh spire
steady coral
#

Guys do we have any good souls that is willing to look at smaller arms brother logs and give some crucial tips how to improve? 🙂

minor gust
#

press buttons in correct order on the gcd and maintain boss uptime

wind flicker
#

Just the wrong buttons

minor gust
#

oh Jeve you

wind flicker
#

:3

wind flicker
#

Im gaming bro

#

Idk what ur on about

sacred zodiac
#

holy hell

minor gust
#

golf rules says you own

wind flicker
#

And basically dumped my opener into the boss and tabbed out

spiral coral
minor gust
#

welcome back fury is still shit unless your in raid

wind flicker
#

Yeah that i knew

#

There is a reason i didnt play till now 😂

fresh spire
wind flicker
#

I honestly cba to raid

naive sage
wind flicker
#

But not having myth track gear sucks

minor gust
#

such is the life of not raiding

wind flicker
#

I mean u know me Frozen

minor gust
#

do you know about the Dinar requirements?

wind flicker
#

Yeah i bought a heroic HOC

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I couldnt be bothered to do mythic

minor gust
#

can atleast get a myth pacemaker and maybe heroic jastor idk how well that sims against myth rings/crafted

wind flicker
#

I didnt sim anything

#

I just slapped on gear

minor gust
#

thats the spirit

wind flicker
#

Just doing some fun keys for crests etc

#

Gearing

#

Im surprised with how little keys are listed tho

#

The resi thing kinda screwed that up didnt it?

minor gust
#

its certainly showing its negative aspects if your in the mid key range

#

But I still love resi

wind flicker
#

Im at like 16 now

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Its kinda empty ngl

spiral coral
#

Quite wack

waxen bramble
#

Hey guys, Wowanalyzer tells me to use Warbreaker on CD but I've built a Weak Aura that just tell me to use when Demolish has less than 12 seconds CD (and doing so, I consistently use Demolish on Warbreaker armor debuff). Should I just yeet my WA and start using WB on cd?

spiral coral
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I don’t know the solution, I think res has done more good than bad overall but it’s def showing its downside towards the end of the season

wind flicker
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I mean its fine, i got some people to game with. but still seems kinda deadge

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Can imagine that if you dont have people to game with its quite shit

minor gust
#

yeah its fine

#

not everything is gonna be only positive

wind flicker
minor gust
spiral coral
#

Imo it’s my fault and I should just get better

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Not blame the key system

steady coral
magic canopy
#

Key system is good

spiral coral
#

Yes

magic canopy
#

but when we are just a 15% worse dk in most regards

minor gust
#

the answer instead of complaining about pug life is to always just find people to play with

wind flicker
#

Tbh keys feel kinda easy this season

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Compared to other seasons

dim basalt
#

Pugging never felt great and never will

#

It's just impossible

wind flicker
#

I mean

#

I wouldnt say impossible

#

Depends how high up ur going i guess

dim basalt
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The second two different mentalities clash it's over

#

Which is inevitable

spiral coral
#

Depends on class/meta/person imo.

minor gust
storm prism
#

I mean

#

A log is pretty much the same thing but you can see literally everything they do

spiral coral
wind flicker
#

Logs for m+ are kinda useless ngl

#

Too many variables

storm prism
#

They are but they still show what someone is doing

wind flicker
#

Rotationally

minor gust
#

still doesnt come close to watching your own gameplay

storm prism
#

I think the real answer

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Is to do both

dim basalt
#

VODs explain decision making much better

#

Which is what's important

wind flicker
#

I never look at logs for m+ tbh unless i want to check an opener for another class

#

Never did either

#

I think its kinda useless

dim basalt
#

Nobody at a higher level needs to check rotation

storm prism
#

Higher level players aren't asking for vod reviews in Skyhold lol

wind flicker
wind flicker
#

I always use logs to see how i can get as good as @minor gust tbh

minor gust
dim basalt
#

The meadery one?

storm prism
#

I'm the arms goat (i haven't played my warrior since Dragonflight)

wind flicker
#

I litteraly started this reset

dim basalt
#

Ask anyone good and they will say they're mid

storm prism
#

Mid is warrior damage tuning

#

Just a worse DK rn

heady shale
#

Brown class ain't feeling so good

minor gust
#

well im 3500 IO and only orange mythic parses I consider that pretty mid in terms of gamer warriors

wind flicker
#

Definitely higher than most

dim basalt
#

It's pretty good

storm prism
#

Could be better

#

Needs to be 4500io or he's trash

minor gust
#

compared to the whole player base yeah its pretty good. Compared to the gamers out there pretty mid

storm prism
#

Gotta parse 101 on every boss or you should just uninstall

dim basalt
#

Unlike those

minor gust
#

Critcake has an IRL

wind flicker
minor gust
#

not every gamer is unemployed

wind flicker
#

xd

dim basalt
#

What rio is Crit

#

3.7?

storm prism
#

I still think it's dumb to compare yourself to people who literally get paid to play wow

#

Like

wind flicker
#

There is maybe like 5 warriors getting paid to play xd

storm prism
#

Even with irl these dudes dedicate 99% of their free time to wow

#

And ain't no fuckin way I could do that I'd go insane

minor gust
#

I dont think of mid as a bad thing im chillin with my skill lvl

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im big chillin playing the game desperatly coping for my warrior rework

storm prism
#

Realistically a "Mid" player is the AOTC blue parser who hits 2500io and calls it a tier

wind flicker
#

Im not sure if thats mid

#

I'd say thats casual

storm prism
#

That's literally just average

minor gust
storm prism
#

Casual is the normal raiders who do tmog runs and sweat in M0

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And trust me, there are thousands of them

minor gust
wind flicker
#

I just got bored so started doing some higher keys

#

Spamming crest keys is kinda boring after a while

minor gust
#

gotta switch it up once youve had enough of the cringe that is demolish you gotta spin on them

wind flicker
#

Tbh i kinda need to get used to the timings

storm prism
#

Demolish isn't cringe the big shaboinka is amazing

wind flicker
#

I finally kinda understand all the dungeon mechanics

#

Gotta work on timings now

minor gust
wind flicker
#

Tbh it reminds me a bit of s1 df

#

I prefer fury normally tho but its wack from what i understood

minor gust
#

Fury is just suffering from the fact this season is all about massive pulls and its hard capped

storm prism
#

And demolish feels nice on potty warrior

minor gust
#

while its cds suck ass

wind flicker
#

Yeah but hows prio tho

#

I mean i dont even have 2 weps like who am i kidding

minor gust
#

its Prio and ST is pretty decent but just gets outshined by an arcane mage

wind flicker
#

I saw that

#

What the fuck is arcane atm

#

Like my god

storm prism
#

I have mained arcane for 4 tiers now

#

It is godly rn

dim basalt
#

Imagine if arcane wasn't so target capped

wind flicker
#

Is it still the same playstyle as last season?

#

In that case Jevemage return inc xd

storm prism
storm prism
#

I personally think this iteration feels MUCH better though

wind flicker
#

Hmm idunno i'd have to try it i guess

storm prism
#

It's fun and it is way easier than people think

#

10/10 spec great visuals, great damage, great hero talents (Sunfury is meh in AoE but slaps in raid)

wind flicker
#

I mean there was an addon playing the game for you pretty much

#

Last season

storm prism
#

You mean the barrage helper weak aura?

wind flicker
#

Ye

storm prism
#

Yeah good luck tracking everything on arcane without one

thick hamlet
#

what's the difference between lesser and non-lesser versions of the new helm enchants

storm prism
#

Hate to say it, but literally every arcane player has some form of barrage helper

magic canopy
#

man arms is just not fun

storm prism
#

False

#

Go to prison

glass sphinx
#

where can i find the sims for new belt

minor gust
#

when the new belt comes out

void bay
#

What time does this mdi thing end?

eager sigil
#

when keys finally get removed from the video game

hazy flower
#

Stove winning tgp using it

storm prism
#

There isn't an issue I literally use a barrage helper myself

#

I've played arcane for a hot minute and I'm serious when I say it would be ridiculous to try tracking intuition, harmony, tempo, nether precision, orb charges, and glorious incandescence without some sort of help

hazy flower
#

Gi is sunfury only no?

#

Unless youre speaking strictly raid wise

storm prism
#

It is yeah but that's the common choice for a lot of raid bosses

hazy flower
#

Where u shouldnt ever drop tempo

#

Either way

#

So u wont lose it

#

U only need it as ss

#

But yeah

#

Its a lot of conditions

storm prism
#

And SS is what you play in keys so ye gotta track it

hazy flower
#

High voltage as well

storm prism
#

I think you could get away with not tracking HV

#

Would just have to remember to barrage before you use aether attunement buffed missiles

hazy flower
#

Maybe

#

Havent played much arcane

#

Mostly dh/dk/druid in keys this season

#

Its giga fun tho

#

Maybe ill finish gearing my mage

storm prism
#

Yeah I started in S3 DF and fell in love with it and it has honestly gotten way better since then

#

The rework was amazing

#

Was a fire main before then but purple spec is my boo thang now

spiral coral
#

Ggs Wunderbar

#

Damn

#

That cinder run

#

What the fuck did I just watch

magic canopy
#

cleave needs another 40% buff

#

you're right

leaden meadow
#

do our 4 set make a big diff?

#

in m+

tacit crystal
#

i mean yeah

#

but getting tier is easy at this point

leaden meadow
#

ye i do have it i jst feel like not much has changed xD

urban iron
#

400% okayge

rough sluice
shadow ibex
#

Just have all abilities crit

#

And jug never fall

#

And maybe you will find this bullshit fun

#

Oh and make sure the mob you've targeted while using demolish doesn't blink or leap or do things that mobs do this season

magic canopy
#

i mean like

#

every big pull that has 14 sides of crap all around and the amount of shit we have to do to even have relevency

#

and the moonkin hits the dot button 10 times and does 1 mil more overall then us by hitting the starfall button and spamming starfire

#

from the safety of range

shadow ibex
magic canopy
#

when we have to be jason bourne to do below average damage

minor gust
magic canopy
#

bout to say fuck arms and just play fury until they fix the seismic bug

shadow ibex
#

Yea that's all well and good but im afraid our mid expac wishlist is only going to yap about MS and exe being different between the hero specs when in reality they both prio MS the same it's just opportunist is over tuned

#

And nothing will change

magic canopy
#

the key spec boomy plays auto extends dots too you dont even have to refresh them in aoer

#

you do a little prep. and hit 2 buttons and do 25m dps in big packs

shadow ibex
#

While also having a better kick etc etc

#

In DF we said our rework was coming surely

#

Now we're in tww and last word was we're happy with warrior

minor gust
#

12.0 rework surely

shadow ibex
#

Feedbacks posted

#

If they don't realize how hated jugg is then they just aren't paying attention

minor gust
#

basically how I feel for 11.2

#

if not a single jugg change or removal its all over

shadow ibex
#

Just feel like yelling into a vacuum at this point

#

Feedback and concerns just answerd with radio silence

#

Until we get our6-8% aura buff

#

And then gapped again when other specs get their late tuning

vague ore
#

is ms still higher priority over op with dreadnaught during sweeping strikes on more than 3 targets?

celest forge
#

Have you tried just being a balance druid? Life is great for balance druids

shadow ibex
#

Rather get another cast off

silk spade
#

delete jugg

visual fern
#

Agree delete mugjugg

fast wedge
#

i’ve been playing this game since classic. never once played war. always felt kinda meh trying it out. finally got one to 80 two weeks ago. started low m+. felt meh. stuck with it. now doing 10+ and this shits so fun.

spiral coral
#

Hell yeah

#

I’m alting my hunter and, it makes me upset how spoiled it is lmao

void bay
void bay
sage badge
#

Arms owns.

hollow plover
#

Arms absolutely owns

#

YUP

minor gust
pine wind
#

Perused the "updates" channel, what recent changes were there that we dont go as execute heavy for the M+ slayer build

dapper niche
#

For m+ what should my stat spread be? On guides is says like crit haste mas, but checking YouTube and some people I’ve seen have crit mas hasted prio. Mid 30s for haste and crit but mas is only 16%

#

It’s my offspec so trying to optimize with crafted and gems

fast wedge
ancient scroll
#

big one

green cedar
#

Should I be worried that I have literally zero vers if I want to start pushing higher keys than 12? A healer in my guild told me I should have least get 10% to help with higher keys so I dont get wrecked as fast when I unload with all CD's and pull

minor gust
#

Your a warrior your fine with 0 vers

magic canopy
#

vers doesnt matter until like 17s maybe

minor gust
#

Dstance is your vers

green cedar
#

Had a lot of gilded with no use, made a earthen neck with haste vers since I am much more stacked on crit. Probably will never use it

obsidian acorn
#

Reforge it to haste crit

minor gust
#

Reforge for some more hit and expertise

hollow plover
sacred zodiac
blissful tree
#

hey. how does your guild handle loot when the content is clear? roll so everybody got a fair chance for items they want or still using audit/lootcouncil?

thick kelp
#

everyone rolls and uses abit of common sense whilst doing it

hollow plover
#

and then common sense

ancient scroll
#

taunt reflect on last boss saves the key 😮

magic canopy
#

reflect goodge