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omg hiii zhai
So chaps. Cleave’s out, whirlwinds in now? 
New to arms. Is the 100% whirlwind buff gonna pump up cleave dmg?
Ok thought so.
24%
i dont care anymore man
salutations
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that character has the worst trinkets known to man

actually not worth playing until i get them
damn no on use just Eye
isnt signet good for chicken
its mediocre at best
imagine every go you got 10k mastery
or every other go you got 7k mastery
its not even close to house of cards
discordcomplainer
its blizzards fault the class has zero meaningful util and does 15% less damage then a dk slobbering on their keyboard
not like starfall merchant is much deeper than UH
uhdk also doesnt have meaningful util
they just dont die and they do actually have meaningful util
beter util then warrior
criminally low bar
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madox can u make a proper wishlist video pls
fully dedicated video for it
cuz ur old ivdeo was filled with yap
guys what is the best guide or like smth to properly learn arms warrior?
@magic canopy made one, its slightly inaccurate but it tells you 99% of things
where?
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yo madox i liked ur haircut in that vid
ur growing the elvis presley now
arent u
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ngl im just omega downer becuase igot invited to 3 keys last night. timed all of them easily into watching the red class get invited to every phys comp i applied to
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zhai whats ur pfp thought process
autism
you speak like you use cavedwellers delight to heal
brrrrrrt
what does this mean
i am very confused
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Uh isn’t whirlwind cleave as arms? Or am I dumb af
What a pointless change.
Obv have to be wrong
we replace whirlwind when talenting into cleave
and this change doesnt affect cleave
its a prophylactic change
Rip
Feels like a 🖕 to arms players this "buff"
arms is in a solid state *in terms of numbers
but this change does feel a bit off yea
Does this buff overtake what arms puts out now? And have us swap to fury?
tldr of this balance is that warrior is exactly identical to where it is in the meta
while numbers did go up a bit, nothing relevant changed enough to matter
fury struggles the same as before
arms didnt actually change
phantom buffs
Seems so
gn

People say this but to be competitive with the other dps you have to put in a lot more work IMO, plan your collats, like it's not intuitive that you have to hold your collat for several GCDs to line it up with some amp etc
Fury will always struggle in some meaningful way as long as Blizz doesn't give up on target caps so yknow what are ya gonna do
i wanna see them explain purpose of the ww buff
For real, are we getting back for spin to win?
hey guys you ready to not use WW next week ?
Look we do a massive job at balancing
to make you wanna press WW over slam in an aoe raid situation
pretty meaningless change tho
wtf are those arms buffs....ok now im convinced no one at blizz actually plays arms at all. PS - delete juggernaut
prophylactic buff
Those buffs. I dont get them. Why not buffing the Talents we play instead of buttons you rarely press. When do you ever press ww as arms? Buff juggernaut or make the buff last longer. Change the way you handle the sudden death procs. It feels so counter intuitive to hold the proc until, well, a weak aura tells me to press execute.
Would be „nice“ if a maked for execution 3 stacked buff gives a 3 stack juggernaut after you press execution.
they felt bad they were only planning fury buffs so they threw us a tiny bone with WW buff
since we use cleave instead
bring back SOS
Will this buff make us use it?
Adding 100% to 0 still is 0.
You can clap now instead of rend i guess?
you always thunder clapped to rend in aoe
thank god WW isnt 0 then
I mean on st
no you wont
Well I don't find any WW in my ST fights.
well yeah why the fuck would you press WW in ST
we dont push WW in ST because slam is better ST than whirlwind and same cost
best case scenario in an AOE raid situation with lots of mobs you press WW instead of Slam
voila
the only case where your would push WW instead of slam is probably on gallywix
prob
and thats IF you dont have sweep
maybe this is a buff to the one button coming next patch 🤔
That's why I said: 'Adding 100% to 0 still is 0.'
its a buff tailored to aoe
not ST
we dont use cleave on ST
we dont tclap on st
well most people do but rend technically is more
And we don't use WW in MT
We NEVER use WW
Never = 0
no shit bro because we have cleave instead which is why they are trying to buff us away from cleave and into a WW spam with fervor + sweep
but like
it still isnt going to be better anyways
because colossus cleave + demolish is better
cant use WW when we have cleave talented
ToM + FoB ww spam is back @dull siren
i mean i think thats what you would do without cleave lol
it wasnt thaat far behind cleaving pre buffs
So you think that can get a thing? Slayer AoE will use WW instead of Cleave again?
WW does not proc RtS does it?
nein
naw its prolly still dogshit
considering rts is all your damage in slayer aoe
even if ww DID more damage than cleave, you wouldn't touch that shit
They really live under a rock lmao
no fucking clue
i cant wait to play tom again
I imagine you would. It still fires a slam.
Tom with Sos ww
just do the S3 DF fob build if you wanna WW spam
yeah
Omg this build be cursed
no sks
Collat sharp and EP
could take Dn too ngl

Now we just need fan of longswords instead SoS xd
i cant wait for whirlwind to do 0x2 damage
OAB kills graphs are insane
our guilds first pull in the last phase
and it just fell over
Gallywix is the same as soon as you go into p2 for the first time you get a 20-30% jump
Hi, I'm new player on arms warrior and I don't understand why buttons glow proc. I see Overpower procs by Opportunist hidden aura, but what hidden aura for Mortal Strike and Cleave?
Mugzee is not too different at this point
When they reset their CD
And i think for cleave there is another thing i don't remember
ok thank you
cleave can reset its own CD like MS can (talented)
Sadly the glows are mostly not relevant
Not only not relevant but easily misleading for newer players
WW buff still uselss no?
ye
cool
whirlwind buff lets gooooo
Nice WW buffs for m+ !! When they could have increased Deep wound/rend damage, ravager dmg significantly
Yeah nice buff that does not change anything at all
Good one
Oh it was sarcastic wasnt it
sadly 😔
i just wish they skullsplitter for a new talent honestly
SKS would be half as bad if it hasted the bleeds properly
sks wouldnt be half as bad if it worked like it did in DF
Quick question: If my personality doesn't allow me to hold for optimal setups and I just send abilities that glow, should I go fury instead or stick with the "just send it arms" 😄
Should go to ret pala
I'm guessing not but the whirlwind buff doesn't affect cleave right
would be sweet if it did, but alas...
Wouldn’t this put fury ahead of arms?
is the arms st/5t sim apl accessible anywhere?
thanks
Hi guys, I see a lot of mention of the Slayer build for M+ being good due to juggernaut, but all the builds I find have no juggernaut and that without it it's just worse colossus. Can someone please help me clarify?
Hi guys, so does the WW buff do anything? I don't even have WW on my bar currently.
ofc it doesn't. 100% cleave buff would be absurd
guys am gonna try arms for first time, whats the prio stat after ilvl upg ? crit>haste>mast>vers right ? and what option u sim for m+ ? 1boss 5min
I figured as much
Stats can change really fast, best to just sim it
Some do dslice, some do 5T patchwerk 5 min (for m+)
its more a matter of which sim religion you subscribe to 
the vibes > sim one
vibe keys
Educated vibes>max dps>feelycrafting
Heh, if that happened we'd prolly cleave in ST as a filler.
These buffs are a nothing burger.
Ww if I've done it correct on sims is pretty nice
Any 2 target boss will enjoy ww fob very nicely
Might even be good for something like bandit
Since all you would drop if bb
Though. Prolonged two target would make it better not very much bursty 2 target where execute comes in pretty fast
While it's nice to see buffs, they really missed the mark.
Worst part is
If we proc reap
Cleave would likely die in slayer.

Ww proc reap*
I dream of spamming ww and reap procs nonstop

Fury just needs target cap adjustments, and Arms needs less skills to buff other skills.
Fury had a little bug with seismic last week
Legion had a time where we used ww as a filler.
Which might be why they buffed tc/ww
Seismic was giving 70% damage instead of 30 for clap
So likely fixed and buffed
Heh, small indy company.

just a humble mans opinion, but fix the bugs before giving us meaningless buffs
Even Odyn's Fury buff, heh. Still won't be used.
Ofc buffs are coming on reset. Bug fix may also be coming
Odyns is actually pretty good
Looks usable again
Barely
Ye barely
Drop 1-2% single target for 2% aoe
It does re enable fury hard burst which will give it value
Which means it screws other classes over for more personal gains

Target cap is still the problem.
Yeh likely will keep being a problem until they overhawl the whole spec. Both trees need some pick me ups. Honestly think fury is in a worse state than arms
I give zero foxes about other classes ramp/funnel.
i think they want to maintain class niches aka x class does better in 2 target vs y class does better in 50 targets
ww is back ?
Buffing warrior is a joke, like they keep buffing useless spells, garbage devs.We are target capped and do less damage on 5 targets than uncapped classes.
The classes that is great at 8+ is still great at 5+
If they was to change ww. They likely would do it on an expansion level fix up if anything
And yet they do.
Unlikely to make a drastic change mid patch
Should make ww just work like multi shot for beast master with higher cap
Lmao, I just noticed your avatar is a Crab in a cowboy hat holding BiS.
Our tunning is always based on raid performance so arms won’t see any GOOD tunning until the end of the season.
Been like it for a solid 2 months. But I've not been yapping here much
fury shall have some tunnin, maybe it will be viable on m+ ?
It's funny as arms is likely been in the best spot in keys it's been in forever. Doesn't help that colossus is a desyncing mess sometimes
The only thing that doesn't desync seems to be SS and ravager.
Have you guys seen overall death in the tier that arms isnt the top

Insane what 10% hp can do

the inconsistency that gets me... there is keys that im used to play... like the old ones, that i blast... i top the dmgs, but there is keys that im tired, i mess the rotation and the performance is trash
I like slayer more rn as much as its worse
The feels when reap procs back to back to back from cleave ms cycling from bs rng

Kinda wish the blademaster cleave cds was tied to sweep more than avatar 😦
I'd love to not use AM, but that's not an option.
yes it is
It’s viable atm. Just a 5% bump, so it’s not going to hurt but tbh I’m probably not going to notice much.
select ss
so why the whirlwind will be buffed? i mean, our top dmg skill is cleave
They dont know any better
I dunno
i cant belive this, i mean... ppl working there doesnt have an clue? lol! ive heard that WW is going to be tunned to prepare the cclass to the next big changes, idk
I’m trying to figure out if it changes literally anything in my rotation
It’s super late in the season I’m surprised we got anything
Spiteful is junk.
But you're right. They don't know what they're doing with our class.
Tunned

plz feel free to correct my english
And at this point I’d rather blizzard just like, not do buffs like this? It makes them seem out of touch? But really warriors biggest complaint was m+ damage, and this kinda helps a bit (not really) without buffing warriors in raid.
Im not correcting u its just funny my king
They don't know what they're doing with the class. This buff is them grasping at straws.
Silence i am excited to ww twice as hard
Arms 2T about to go nuts tho
They don’t seem out of touch to me. It just seems that’s the general consensus when they do buffs like this.
…. How much do you ww now?
Oh I meant like lol nvm
Every 4 gcds on gallywix
Daaaang
cleave is 380 with my current gear 681
In M+ never, in ST or 2 target, it's a filler.
Good job blizzard. Sorry all warriors we didn’t get a full rework and a 300% buff like you were expecting 
We're not asking for that.
I’ve heard a lot of things asked for idk what anyone wants anymore tbh. I’ve heard everything from lust, to deleting jugg, to giving fury a third arm.
I personally just want one thing
Them to change Arms
To
Arm
Tbh some are, thats what warrior needs lol
Can we change it to legs
Lust would be nice, but that would be part of a rework.
Jugg does need to go. We have too many self buffing things with very little payoff.
Not like its gonna happen on a weekly reset tho
And all abilities just jump
Youre not gonna fix woryer by changing a few talents
There are clowns of all classes asking for the moon.
Like, the entire arms tree is completely fucked
man i like the idea of arms right now, colossus arms... its fun to pile percentages to deal an massive hit, i like that fantasy as arms warrior
Buffs to capstone talents and target cap adjusts for Fury would go a long way to fixing the actual problem.
Remove jugg, rework slayer, get rid of crit damage modifiers
Make capstones actually usable
Rework most talents into something more interesting than just small damage modifiers
remove fataly, on one picks that talent xD
Give Arms a shield
It's too inconsistent
yes
Needs more base damage but not get modified by our cds
This spec really needs god
Sub is niche
ive read here ppl askin to return the dragon flight season 2 tier, that SD procs TC, it was nice indeed
Tank damage outside of cds, massive burst with cds
Love sub tbh so I’m excited to alt it again
Sub is better to play after they removed shadowdust yeah
bring back mortal combo!
Ass has been putting all my other classes to shame damage wise
mas idk why rogues are low population, ive played with an rogue on ML 17... jesus bro that guy was insane
single target, aoe, omega pulls, the guy was toppin the meeters
if your ass rogue is topping st your group is shite
Hello, the spell was not removed ?
All rogues playing dl rn
I almost bricked a 15 rook, making us invisible to skip ads at the end and someone got agro. Was all good just pulled room into last boss 
insane
Warriors the type to be taken out to krispy kreme a week before their birthday then complain it’s not crispy



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So the whirlwind dmg buff doesn't effect cleave ?
For some reasonnj just assumed cleave works like thunderclap on thane 
100% buff to whirlwind, cleave replaces whirlwind, sooo.. that's 100% buff to cleave surely 

is there any alt gearing guides ?
dratnose has one
what're the chances that the arms whirlwind buff is a side effect of fury ww buff
spaghetti code action
Would be weird since they got buffed by different amounts
Let's just imagine for a second that this 100% buff would be applied to cleave (which i know it won't, must likely), how much stronger arms would be?
Would it be enough to shoot arms to the top of the dps rankings?
A warrior will be in every single group in M+ then
Would that be bad? Maybe not to the scale of 100%. But a class with little to no utility like war should pump big numbers imo
True and I agree
We cant help with utility so we need something in return
But arms in my opinion in strong enough now in M+ (if u dont compare it to lock aoe and boomie)
I wouldn't say it's bad, other classes end up hard meta so why not warrior? But I can't see Blizzard allowing that to happen.
Hi guys, I see a lot of mention of the Slayer build for M+ being good due to juggernaut, but all the builds I find have no juggernaut and that without it it's just worse colossus. Can someone please help me clarify?
Strong enough in what range? I don't see a reason to bring war over a ret pally or udk ever unless running specific comps where battle shout is valuable
i guess whirlwind buff doesn't affect cleave dmg right?
what about whirlwhind after collat instead of cleave now
That an interesting question, but idk
I'll just wait for the buff and for ppl that are smarter/have more time to test things out
This buff is just going to confuse everyone more than anything
this is great
In terms of overall DPS arms warrior is still decent
What really surprise me is MM hunter not being nerfed till now
Shout is valuable idc what anyone says lol
A decent MM hunter easily beats unholy and boomie
Feel like I haven’t seen an mm in like two weeks
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change massacre to ep
he's specifically looking for one with juggernaut talented
oh
sorry i just woke up
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@smoky kayak do u think the WW buff for arms can be significant enough to promote a build using bloodsurge for extra rage+storm of swords to make use of WW's no cd compared to cleave to proc as many reap the storm as possible
for aoe ofc

Does WW procc reap the storm?
it does not
That's what i was thinking
refer to walhe
Did you really think blizzard would actually buff arms? 
Our 2t is sick now tho
cleave procs it but ww almost seems like an oversight
but has very little actual use 😦
fg
Next tier we get another Kurog
prayge
and mugzee
I’ma run this in a 12 here in a sec
nothing to cleave on mugzee really
rather use that for juggernaut gamble

i continued the streak of dropping a 15 stack at 37%
the guys at 45 and 175
w
mugzee is such a fun fight honestly
yeah, you stack jugg on those as they arent living long enough to make use of any actual 2 target
i really despise these huge numbers nerfs on bosses and then getting % buffs from renown and another 6 overall ilvl
its so bad
we lived bomb explosions twice on gally kill this week
its such a meme
mythic vexie dying in first burn
And big corruption
And epic ww damage
(Can't wait for them to mess up and buff clap for arms)
And use the aura for arms tied to slam for ww
you will catch me pressing WW on gally adds
Its probs worth too now if ms on cd
It's better on 2 target with fob than overpower with buff

Not opportunsit tho
Padders smh
I need to have more indepth look at where ww goes and the buffs now with and without fob. But it's damage is creeping. Probs would beat cleave on aoe if reap worked with it since you can spam it. First bits of testing I did earlier I haven't checked if it was rage starving from spamming

If only reap worked

says the rank 2 padder
??
The only non 100% is Stix
cus im a ethical player
Sow without reapting tutorial @thick kelp?
those guys are crazy with cs
guys
how does haste from cs work with multiple targets
My team can’t focus on soaking in a in phase two.
havent gotten there
our only p2 pull we instantly exploded as we lusted lol
but that boss was exploding!
If any target in your warbreaker is under 35% hp you gain 20% haste
Idk if it’s the answer you needed
Cs only takes your primary target in consideration afaik
sweep works
Ah ok, I was wrong then
also works with the rend reapply under 35% afaik
but just only takes 1 guy with wb
Ye it does I know for sure
U get more haste per target hit i regularily go to 600% haste
Bfa s4 vibes
i cant tell if you shit posting
i just woke up bruh
He is
600% haste, bro is sending 8 cleave per seconds
would be fun to see a demolish/bladestorm duration with 600% haste tho
Unironically in Bfa it was like 2.5 seconds or something like that can’t remember
Why is whirlwind being buffed? It’s replaced by cleave
what u think about whirlwind up on arms?
Cause they're trying to make it a meaningful choice.
Just like they did with Covenants in Shadowlands.

But, I had fun with my necrolord banner buff from Emini 
And I loved Night Fae. The choice on which Covenant you picked was suppose to be meaningful. Which turned out to be a total lie.
the buffs today arent for "meta" builds
its mainly meant for offbuilds
Oh, don't get wrong. Night fae was my go to since it allowed arms and fury to feel a lot better than the other choices 
eh, NF and kyrian was basically the same thing
the KD feels better than the tether
but tanks can also pull mobs out of your NF
Venthyr was the only one that I avoided the entire expansion.
They should yeet spear and bring AS back
im ready to complain about tanks pulling mobs out of NF
Agreed, Ancient Aftershock was awesome
Hey, probably been asked a shitload of times but i just picked up arms again. Do you use mortal strike in AOE as a filler for cleave? Or is it not worth cause it might consume overpower stack?
No, it does not buff cleave from what we've gathered.
what a joke !
Yes, you spend rage for CDR.
Thanks 🙂
You reap what you sow
How sow without reaping
Youtube tutorial
Correct, it’s just keeping WW tuning on par with other abilities
Buff us to #1 already
Basically anytime there aren’t enough regular adds to talent into cleave, but can still hit more than one target, you WW instead of Slam
Whereas before you’d just press slam and ignore them
6 years without rework...
Can you provide an example of “not enough regular adds to talent into cleave”?
Half the raid fights in the game
Hence why we go Fury for most of those fights.
I wanna boop da snoot!
Hes from goobertown
Many will, not all
Statistically, most players actually don’t swap fight to fight
They just play the spec they want
Even in it lol
But the point is that getting another tool in your kit, even if you rarely if ever use it… still ain’t a bad thing
Maybe someone even finds a way to make WW spam work, who knows
dont let him in, he wants to eat ur cookies
I'd let him in and feed em chicken!
in total? 7.5 I think
7.5?
this just seems like buffing offmeta-overlooked stuff
you mean 3.5?
looks like thats true for most other classes
7 full sparks and 1 piece of a spark
weird, i only have 7 halves

Still crazy to me that we didn't get gladiator as a hero spec
has archi been gone?
Already been trying to work on something

Tom is is trash
Why would i want a strength buff outside of my cds when I can have gigachad haste in my cds

If I wanted a flatter dps profile I'd actually play fury

Well I'm not necesarily looking for it, just wondering if it's really the go to for M+
This build doesn't have Juggernaut for some reason
Is this the go to M+ build if I wanna try slayer?
oops ig i didnt copy it
This is what I read in the pins. So This is why I'm asking about this since I cannot find any build in any guide that has Jugg
just to clarify you want to play jug
I want to play Slayer in M+, so I'm wondering what's the best build for this
The pins say that Slayer jugg is the go to, and that jugg-less slayer is worse colossus
But this is the only Slayer M+ build I can find in all the guies
all variants of slayer will be worse than colossus
if you click load export builds
you can see the options
the only build that isnt listed there is dropping massacre for ep for slayer which could also be played
Got it
I get that, just wondering which one is the "least behind"
i would imagine ep?
They both have EP I think
not jug
Slayer got a big buff a couple weeks ago, the goto build is the one marked "post-hotfix" in here
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I see. Thanks guys
well no, the message is correct lol, Slayer is just a worse version of Colossus
but it's a lot more competitive than it was after a big Reap and Bladestorm buff
that build should be listed in the load export thing
on wowhead? it is
I know everyone likes colossus, but I'm a simple man, I like bladestorm haha
again, it's marked "post-hotfix"
as for which is least behind i really dont know
can probably just remove juggernaut entirely, it's a novelty, but not a particularly practical one
All right. Thanks guys!
wait we got tuning?
ah its kinda booty
Arms Whirlwind damage increased by 100%.,
Fury Whirlwind damage increased by 120%.,
Odyn’s Fury damage increased by 30%.,
Thunder Clap damage increased by 25%.,
Mountain Thane: Thunder Blast damage increased by 25%.,
Execute damage reduced by 15% in PvP combat.,
Rend damage increased by 15% in PvP combat.
arms WW buff is silly xD
it looks like theyre just trying to make fury more comp to arms
You'd just have sweeping up
should i be using WW over Slam in ST if i take Fervor of Battle?
fervor needs 2 targets to work
i see, thank you guys
behold xD
arms or fury in delves?
Whatever you have more fun with
alright will test out both and decide
fury has more sustain and is more tanky so I'd generally recommend it more but it really doesnt matter because delves are impossible to die in unless ur trolling
or undergeared
Fury generally has more self-sustain, but most of your healing comes from brann anyway, so its not as big a difference as you'd think, DBTS can also be clutch since mobs are actually hitting you in delves
i only pvp in wow but wanna chase achievements in horrific visions so i'm hittin up delves for the first time with like 20 bountiful keys tryin to get some pve gear. Will continue as fury which I expected would be a bit better with its survivability
i think with most pvp gear you should be able to do most of the content
might be so but wanna see similar numbers as in arena
i scale to 684 or something in arena, so i wanna see similar numbers when im tryin to get that sanctum login screen from delves too
shit will just go quicker so i wanna do the spec which is quickest
i really think there is no difference
guess ill put loot spec as arms then
If you want to just plow through delves, set Brann as Dps and go tank. You can quite literally pull half the delve and pop defensives and live through it quite easily. With Colossus you will also do quite a bit of damage
is that so, ill be damned. imma try this shit out
he is weak on the dps as healer
i just wanna steamroll it and get my login screen etc
where do i press to check my delve progress with brann
Bro gio u yap way to much
press Ctrl + Alt + Shift and W
on discord
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go vibe with wumpus then
who is that
im on my phoen
gg brokie
dumbahh

on Mug is it worth it to SS>swap to rocketeers for free executes? i dont see any negatives but I might be forgetting smth
ye haste goes brr I realized pretty late into the night yday but ill do it for next week 🙂
ye I guess that and when boss is on transition phase are the only times when its worth it to hold CS
Or when gaols are about to go out
Instructions unclear, those aren’t on my virtual mechanical keyboard
tank with dps bran was hella nice just ran thru t11
shit worked flawless my brother in christ
It is insanely easy. If you have Goblomagnetic grenades + Dimensional printer (that makes copies of elites), its just a cakewalk every time. Which it usually is anyway as tank, but :p
thanks for the tips , appreciate it
Give Underpin a try when you have the chance. He's pretty easy when you focus on yeeting the bombs to clear adds. Just a matter of time before Brann kills him. Move in big circles around the arena, makes it easier (I feel).
And bind the interact button 😂 bombs have a tendency to be right under him, and the hitbox makes it terrible to click the individual bombs sometimes
i have it so i can use my charge to intervene if i a click a player, doesnt work on brann i suppose so have to bind another hehe .
In my experience it's easier as arms, parry is a huge CD
if i ever wanna try some m+ do they want arms above fury?
cuz i feel like i rather do horrific visins with all masks as arms so might put loot spec on arms
im done with all my pvp goal this season so ill try out some pve shit for once
is it okay to use Thunder Clap to apply Rend on single target?
In aoe do you always just end demolish or do you ever wait if lets say warbreaker is on cd and is up in 3 seconds
thanks!
Random request: Does anyone have a Druid, Mage, or DK 5 target, 5 min sim?
does the 100% whirlwind buff to arms apply to cleave too?
0% chance that it does
basically yeah... I mean I guess if you are in pure single target build and need a filler to hit multiple targets for some reason, now it'll tickle them slightly harder
😂 fair enough thanks ^^
I's only useful for a 2-4 target talent build. Even then it's kinda insignificant.
i dont think anyone who is sending arms in mythic raid is going to bother binding WW for a chance at a gain
which is a hilarious place for a button to be in
rend and WW competing for button you only press if you cba to find a bind for it
think Best-In-Slots hero Track weapon is better than a crafted 675?
the crafted max would be 681
ah so probably not?
no, the intent is to help the button keep up with other inflation
i.e. ensuring Whirlwind remains a better button than Slam in (mostly raid) situations where you don't have Cleave talented
this is what i imagine arms warrior should look like in my head lol
ohh yeah thats pretty good too
getting lots and lots of errors wit addons popups
any specific addons u guys know off that give errors nwo?
get buggrabber and bugsack
aight ty
fair enough does make sense ina way but i was kinda hoping tbh ^^ thank you for the input ^^
there's no shot cleave would catch a random +100% buff
that's not even copium, that's complete fantasy
i mean, this game is complete fantasy..
usually whats ur damage on the real first pull of priory (15+) ?
where do i check te errors
where they are stored
read the addon brother
cant just blindly download something. the scammers would love you lul
bugsack will put an icon on your minimap, among other things
not that kind
i know, im just in a playful moood
thats why i asked before installing
but got it
thanks
Archi maybe you would know, is Best-In-Slots hero track typically better than a max crafted wep?
no
i got the raid wep, so im not sure if it would even be worth it to craft another wep for like 10 ilvls
no
so i still need to craft a wep even though i have bis, fooookkk meeee
are we talking a big difference though?
or is it like 5k
sim your char
not at home or i would
was just hoping to get a general answer from the oracles
cmon season 1 contest winner 😛
How big are the buffs for arms?
Not even close.
The idea is there's enough targets and WW after the buff does more than an SS slam
people say that, but what is it, like 15K dps difference?
No one's gonna give you an exact number just sim it when you get home
is it better to always keep mr lock n stalk in single target?
whats the ideal crit % for colossus and slayer (raid) currently?
was at 40%, seemed kinda high, so i recrafted some items to haste/mastery instead
You could get a generic answer but a tailored answer to your particular characters stats and items available can only be obtained by simming it.
Love it or hate it.
And it only takes a couple minutes.
how about if you are free? xD
(I don't know the generic answer, just to be clear. I don't play arms very much)
There is no magical optimal stat number
just read the changes, is it worth now to WW instead of slam as filler?
At 5+ targets most likely yes
in raid then i ignore it as always i guess
WW is only a short dick version of bladestorm
Well we're talking about raid you will never have WW for M+
true i tripped
i rather ww than cleave... but cleave is our top dam xD
If WW also procd reap or gave CM stacks it would prob be more viabe
But it doesn't so it's a shit button
i want to use mortal in aoe, but there is no 2 target capped m+ unfortunately
cleave sound is shit imo
i mean you do use ms alot in aoe. gives demo cdr
how much worse is warrior in m+ comp to ret atm ?
ik but it does no dmg, i want my aoe my single and everything to be mortal
but thats not gonna happen

play Fury lol
Because mastery is not a bad stat
you need to sim using latest setting not weekly
That's not gonna change much tbh
no clue what that is
robot is giga min maxing stats too much
Mastery still a good stat
and something your gonna want
think its fine?
And in S3 we will want vers too 
every stats is good for Arms
🤯
i still need to get the circlet fml
btw why are you simming ST with an AOE build
You don't need circlet
WAIT WAIT WAIT
If you have access to myth track rings
im just grabbing enchants and what not
i'm retired and you guys cant even notice those thing
lol
I just dont bother
Same
i'm disappointed
No need to look at it
go back to touching grass Ppaww!
or come back to us
i touched my rifle
you dont think i should grab it?
and took a medal home
Guys, is it a warrior thing having issues getting into +16 and above or is it just me? 
Ppaww Arms got a 100% WW buff its saved come back!
If you can reliably get myth track rings no, because circlet is slightly worse than those
this shit wont apply to Cleave

you might die of old age
id prolly be able to get in vault, new guild i joined is taking me for first 4 tonight so idk if a ring will drop
was just going to grab it so i had more dps for raid
38? You’re a youngin.
That's fine
washed ppaww...
you could be having so much fun losing 15 stack jugg right before 35%
Not like it takes long
past 25 its already dying status
like 2 hours, raid starts in like 5 hours
I need to stop being lazy and make a 'death to juggernaut' meme pic... lol
i'm not missing those memory
seeing ur arm behind the monitor for example
seeing keycaps from your keyboard around the room is the other cool one
can we crash out til Ion is done messing with WoW?
tough to choose my favorite ngl
are you guys ready to play without Addon

like in TBC when people didnt knew shit
what am i supposed to do in game between raids
any reason why wowhead recommends defenders armor kit over stormbound?
if i cant tweak addons
i cant math "Ion Hazzikostas" C'thun is unkillable dps checked
very slightly dps gain
Slight str boost from armor
defenders is armor right
yes
ye armored to the teeth gives u str
yeah armored to the teeth converts some armor to str
stam is overall better for survivability
Survivability? What's that word? Is it like parsing?
more damage = better chatting
if you dead you cant parse
surviving is the real parse
@dire hinge show them the real parsing
My health is the healers job obviously
a dead dps is useless
cant die as arms
you cant only drive fast on the autobahn
anyway
you have to steer the wheel
crashing out wont help
@hexed saddle your team sux so much at Hockey they lost to Danemark
Healers hate this one trick (take more damage than your tanks)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/sargeras/hrothmar?zone=38&difficulty=4&metric=hps
the legend Hrothmar
this is proof Hrothmar is better at the game than all of you
I wouldn't say that 😳 im just some guy
they all sux
Healers hate him
my god
you took 25% dmg
of all dmg
how many people ?
if its 30%
30 people its far too much
75% uptime of "standing in the bad"
uhhh idk this was a pug one sec
(i messaged the healers ahead of time, im not a monster)
23 i think?
i should have mitigated much more, but i did sit in dstance whenever i was in the puddles yeah
can't HPS parse if you die
but you also can't HPS parse if you're at full hp
you have to technically be dying
ignore pain on CD and victory rush to glory
i wish ignore pain wasnt such a shitty CD now
I miss when IP was a thing
Now I actually have to press slam
so you miss IP for the dmg amp ?
😄
i miss when IP was a good CD def
tactically useful
IP being an offensive ability was one of the wildest things i've seen
having to much rage is always better than too little just need a way to control to much rage to keep it fun instead of just ignoring it like we do now
Yooo i used to do that back in the nzoth tier, it was so long i was trying to find the fun in it haha
i do think legion had a good way of doing it for the wrong reason
having an insta way to get an OP charge was nice
thats about the only thing i miss
i think that type of gameplay is interesting
reminded me of mop fury and berserker rage being an offensive button
since the enrage it gave = 1 charge of raging blow. so you could go into CS windows with different resource amounts because you knew i for sure am getting 1 RB charge
I didnt get to truly experience warrior in Legion. My brain was still small and just started to become good at the game playing hpal
Cant wait for legion classic to try it

legion classic not gonna happen
yeah im waiting till next week for the xp buff on cata classic to lvl a warrior
I wanna try Mop fury
I hear good things about it
i could write a fuckin dissertation on that stupid shit man. pushing regular auto attacks off the combat table cuz you got so much crit
wow just isnt like that anymore. not that level of stat weirdness
If they did cata and mop they def just gonna do every expansion and not gonna stop
maybe you should so blizzard can use some brain power
i wouldnt be surprised if they stopped the classics
idk wod classic even typing that just seems so weird
because that expac was essentially a mulligan.
wow2.0 gonna happen and Microsoft will kill the IP
and go straight to legion
i fully expect them to tbh
WoD i had fond memory
they pretty much stopped making it halfway thru to go to legion
we can hope
its crazy how much of the world didnt get used
Wod was a social moment in my WoW time
WoD was perfect no shitty rep grind, simple raid time. no mplussing
I feel like the big pp move would be for the classic team to finish WOD
and include all the cut content
they should add the cut content
give us the capital citys the cut raids and zones
like there was supposed to be a shattrath raid and like 2 other zones
you can see the fall off i nreal time
look at the mythic armor from foundry
and compare it to armor art from hfc
foundry mythic has moving parts and 3d models and all types of effects
then to hfc and its like what the fuck
Man playin hier keys i miss seasonal afixes, like prideful, awaken… now high keys got both fort and tyrn
some how wow survived two cataclysmic events of end of mop/wod and SL
i think SL was worst to play
it had more content ofc but like
dealing with conduit energy. covenents as a whole
I quit in SL
I killed Mythic SLG and just couldnt care anymore and went to play TBC classic
that was the real downside of SL the gatekeeping
legit the stupidest thing ever
on paper wod is probably the worse game just cuz its practically unfinished. we will never be slaves ahhh ending
and Ion baldest Hazzikostas was talking about fine tuning
yea wod was only bad coz it lacked content. to this day it still has the best cinematic in my opinion

