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slow saddle
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So finally a good seasom

knotty creek
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Why havent they fixed so our cds reset in raid when boss reset

slow saddle
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Isnt that fun a spec tnh though

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M8

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Its 1.5min cds

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Its supposed to be weird

knotty creek
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so why cant it be reset

slow saddle
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Coz its 1.5

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Blizzard no code

knotty creek
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So just because of that it should be acceptable?

slow saddle
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Nah man it sucks when u have a fight like sprocket

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Early prog is annoying

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But id rather get a tune up and juggernaut removed

knotty creek
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true

slow saddle
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Instead of qol

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Also blizzard if u dont want 1.5m dungo trinkets.. make a 3m at least

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Fuckin 2m signet can fackaff

quaint otter
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3m critcake

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r u nuts?

unkempt wren
slow saddle
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And ofc its then more powerfull

slow saddle
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Or well desth to slayer

quaint otter
slow saddle
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Both cant exist

quaint otter
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On paper it is

slow saddle
quaint otter
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In practice no

unkempt wren
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Execute focus is fun, execute buff stacking with rng isn't

slow saddle
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So die juggernaut

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Or make it easy to stack

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5 instead of 15.

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And 15 seconds not 12

warm fog
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Maybe they can have a loot table with a variety of good dps trinkets with different timers instead of all the dogshit gimmick trinkets we have

spiral coral
slow saddle
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Bee trinket

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Ride the bee

spiral coral
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Like someone sat around and designed a little mech thing that drops oil and all the animations and audio queues that go with it all for no one to ever use it

slow saddle
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I whistle is bis

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For outlaw

spiral coral
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Oh really?

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That’s actually cool

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I was using it in time walking dungeons

slow saddle
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Fun?

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🀣

hollow wave
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My Sim was putting viscera as my second best trinket, I did buy with chips. It deal 2% of my overall M+. RIP

quaint otter
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Cuz u were simming st?

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Viscera does decent st

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No aoe value

hollow wave
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DG slice and 5 targets, both somehow was very good

olive nest
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Arms owns

copper mulch
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Eerhm, I just got BiS and I already have House of Cards, which one do you press on pull??

plush smelt
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Hoc

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Bis every time after on cd till it lines up with avatar and hoc again then you delay again

plush smelt
copper mulch
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Alright. Kinda annoying... But will manage

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Thanks πŸ™‚

plush smelt
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Honestly its really not all that bad

copper mulch
slow saddle
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Just bind it to cs

young perch
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boys

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how do i defeat the QUE boss??

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its impossible

slate slate
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what items should i buy for bullion if i dont have mythic bosses unlocked?

olive nest
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Will you ever kill mythic bosses?

slow saddle
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Jastor hc

unborn wraith
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Best-in-slots weapon use not working in my macro idk why

slow saddle
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With hoc?

eager sigil
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if you test it out of combat it will try to swap the weapon to int

hollow plover
rare kite
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1 HEAL

eager sigil
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19 heal actually πŸ€“

rare kite
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trutru πŸ€“

sturdy compass
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trying to complete mage tower atm, any tips on talents to get it easier?

eager sigil
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nothing crazy

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you can jump + heroic leap out of the prison

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reflect the casts

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use victory rush on the mirror images

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then just do dam

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can also victory rush the ice prison thing

sturdy compass
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yeah the ice prison thing is fucking me up like crazy

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having food and legion stuff really helps or nah ?

hollow plover
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its really easy as dps with half a brain

sturdy compass
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i keep dying on ice prison

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most of the time my heroic leap cd is like 7-8 second off

hollow plover
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I remember just going in and getting it 2nd try or something

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are u wasting your leap by chance?

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try and figure out ways to save leap since its an important emergency button

sturdy compass
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i only leap while in prison

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it litteraly just doesnt line up with the prison cd for some reason

hollow plover
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do u think potion of gusts would help you?

sturdy compass
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eh

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idk, probably will try to kill the razors and move out

hollow plover
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you havent been trying that?

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yea save roar and bladestorm

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just dont touch them until u killed them

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that works

surreal hull
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as a casual warrior alt what should I spend my dinar on? don't expect to get anythign myth track on this toon

tacit crystal
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jastor

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and ig trinkets from m+

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hoc also good

surreal hull
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Word ty i'm guessing just getting a crafted weapon will beat out a hero BIS

tacit crystal
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yeah by a lot

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sim it yourself to see

surreal hull
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perfect you rock ty

tacit crystal
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if anything sim yourself to see whatll do best

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but crafting cvastor and hoc should be enough

naive sage
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sim dn

latent moss
fading isle
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where swordish

magic canopy
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@reef glade

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he there

reef glade
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w h a t

minor mica
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guys i am comparing my logs with Farover Brew 18 timed (similar comp DK + Assa + Rsham + DH) for the love of me i can't understand how he pulls 1billion more damage on cleave than i do T_T i follow my stack and hold cleave when pack is about to die to let it rip on the next one... but damn so far behind... he sets the bar too high (sorry for the rant had to complain a bit)

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any advice ?

hollow plover
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potential reasons include different mastery, playing around cleave-buffing modifers better (collat, bonegrinder, overpower), and a better route with better positioning to hit more targets

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his avg mortal strike cast is also significantly higher than yours, so my guess is that his stats are better

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regardless of other stuff

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actually nvm forget about the mortal strike comment

minor mica
sage badge
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Probably different pulls and faster pacing if I were to guess. Hard to tell without seeing the logs, but I imagine Farover's 18 is a tad bit faster.

hollow plover
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i mean, just looking at at overall damage breakdown with no added context won't give anyone the option to provide real advice

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zipper

minor mica
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how do i link logs? (i don't know the first thing about logs tbh)

sage badge
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I just deduced based on the DPS on the right. Since it's a metric based on time. Higher dps would generally mean the key was done faster.

sage badge
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Seems normal to me, tbh. Farover just has slightly better gear. Mythic jastor, mythic BiS.
Would come down to how you pulled in comparison, I suppose.

minor mica
sage badge
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Key is timed, all good. You just prove that arms owns.

minor gust
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Comparing overalls isn't really all that useful because of how many different factors go into it.

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M+ improvement is mostly about just reviewing your own gameplay and looking for mistakes. Replay reviews go pretty hard

wooden lava
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There seems to be huge variance on overalls for arms warrior

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sometimes they'll own up and be neck to neck with the other guys

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other times they'll be squarely down there

shadow ibex
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mobs moved during demolish

wooden lava
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mobs being moved during demolish has contributed more to my blood pressure than junk food and bad sleep schedule

shadow ibex
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searing axe angle

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man what if

tender ermine
tacit crystal
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no plunderstorm ability

shadow ibex
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the superior demo

empty sluice
shadow ibex
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ancient....ancient...

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that rings a bell

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i swear ive seen that before

nova marsh
nova marsh
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FUCKING FINALLY

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The best part is this

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Literally perfect even 3k

stable fiber
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W king

balmy kindle
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Gz

nova marsh
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Yes I'm like 4 weeks late

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because I thought taking a break for a bit to play other stuff was a good idea (It wasn't)

balmy kindle
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At 3069 myself but I think it's possible to go 3100+ with friends okayge

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Gained some Io this week just helping others wicked

nova marsh
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I'm just kinda done after 3k

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Burnt out af on wow

grand lark
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good morning, do you think this rotation is good for opening on a single target

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what would you change

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??

astral yarrow
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do a quick sim and just take a picture of the breakdown

grand lark
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How do I simulate?

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The rotation

calm hollow
grand lark
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Execute after bladestorm or mortal strike after bladestorm?

minor gust
grand lark
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Ty πŸ™‚

calm hollow
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And you only execute when the WA says so

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Outside of exe phase

sage crater
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do you ever use cleave ST if stacks of collateral?

astral yarrow
# grand lark The rotation

The standard APL implemented into the simc framework does that for you. You just shove in your character info dump and let the robot handle the rest

grand lark
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In wowanalyzer??

grand lark
dim basalt
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To which the answer is yes, you can use it in ST if you dont need the big cleave

cerulean scroll
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how many stacks do i need for it to be better than a ms

slow saddle
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Hmm infliction of Sorrows is basicly was SKS used to be

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explain why its bad for arms to repply shit, but good for dk

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?:D

dim basalt
cerulean scroll
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with or without mbg

dim basalt
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Without any buffs except collat

cerulean scroll
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i assume w/o?

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ok so w/ mbg it'd be like 5?

dim basalt
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Im not sure if MBG applies after or before collat

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Actually Im dumb, must be after

dim basalt
cerulean scroll
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jhmmNod

dim basalt
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By like 10% AP

cerulean scroll
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ok so ive played it wrong this whole season

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today i learned

obtuse copper
dim basalt
obtuse copper
void bay
astral yarrow
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Unfortunate is peak smort

obtuse copper
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Never heard of her

sacred zodiac
obtuse copper
serene glacier
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You guise see how easy 21 DFC is, even Woyer can time with only arms, not even legs

harsh basin
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why does my macro not work?
/cast Bladestorm
/cast Storm Bolt

sharp wyvern
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Gcd

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Did you press it twice ?

harsh basin
sharp wyvern
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Idk then
Does it work when you don't spam it?

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Too many inputs might fuck with it
At least I had a similar issue before

harsh basin
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Also no 😦

sharp wyvern
untold trench
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Didn't they make it so you no longer cast random GCD when there is multiple, it will just try to cast BS over and over.

If you want to macro these two together for some reason, it must be a sequence macro

sharp wyvern
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When did they change this?

untold trench
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Way way way back, to stop people from making 1 button spam macros

harsh basin
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Oh, and what would this macro look like then?

sharp wyvern
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Cringe

untold trench
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/castsequence bladestorm, stormbolt
Something like that

harsh basin
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thank you! πŸ™‚ it works!
/castsequence Bladestorm, Storm Bolt

astral yarrow
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might want a reset condition on that unless you at a later point want to storm bolt into bladestorm

boreal quartz
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Do you guys not have normal stormbolt key

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For like keys n pvp

harsh basin
sacred zodiac
sacred zodiac
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Irrelevant dps gain and you put a decent m+ tool on cd

harsh basin
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i don't use that in keys, it's 100% for a fight where i don't need bolt like Sprocket

sacred zodiac
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Ok even then you can gain significant amounts more dps by recrafting your gems or playing opportunist conditionals more correctly

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Its not worth optimizing but go for it if you want

untold trench
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Just grab wrecking throw instead. If there is any downtime at all, it wins out

olive nest
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Stormbolting during BS

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Intervene bis bedge

untold trench
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O.05% dps Increase gladge

harsh basin
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Saw it on a critcake video

olive nest
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Me when I lose 3 cs casts during a fight

sacred zodiac
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@daring heron stop telling people to stormbolt during bladestorm

olive nest
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Surely rng will bless me with jug stacks for mugz kill pull

echo marten
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Guys question .
Can arms play well with 21 crit% and 33% mastery

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Somehow I managed to get alot more mast than crit :/

restive canyon
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sim

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but i feel 21% kinda low to me

olive nest
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In slayer raid build sim will equip gear that makes crit be kinda low

echo marten
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I'm not use raidbot and stuff I may try it . But in mean time I will try to get it higher

olive nest
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If you are worried about stats in the first place you should be making the time to simulate your gear every time you get a new item

lean wraith
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im guessing eye of kezan is uber BiS for underpin?

dim basalt
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At this point you should down Underpin in no time

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Definitely shorter than 5 minutes

lean wraith
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ah so a no then πŸ™‚

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thought it would be much longer

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ty

dim basalt
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Only 360M hp or so

tacit crystal
naive sage
fresh spire
tacit crystal
minor gust
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I need robot advice

slow saddle
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100%

quasi torrent
naive sage
boreal quartz
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You can

daring heron
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cba

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it's my afk time

tacit crystal
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critcake can i get title

minor gust
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It's the nice nose/eye itch time

young perch
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Hey bros, sorry if its been asked quadrillion times, but whats the best way to use house of cards and best in slots? Should i use house of cards with avatar on opener, and then when best in slots comes available, i use it off cd? Or activate best in slots in opener with avatar?

minor gust
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Trinket with ava BIS with next cs

young perch
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all right thanks sir

wanton sierra
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when i had best in slots heroic, early season, i used house of cards with burst and bis desync

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are u guys pushing? i mean m+ score... after this big ilvl boost i felt dunggeons way easier, but the hard part is gettin invited xD

fresh spire
fresh spire
# minor gust btw Fishy any cookin with Slayer M+ hard to tell whats better Cleave > MS > OP o...

When I did my first tests on sims dn(op)>ms. But that ofc considers both the sweeped dn also hit max targets as well as your positioning always being king. From a feelcraft stand point my biggest overalls have been cleave>opportunist>ms. Though. Slayer suffers from rng you could legit never op and if you hit higher than average odds with reap crush dn in overall.

Would like if they made reap a little more consistent through swept ms to have a more definitive answer but at least on paper dn wins

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I also tried ling sweep and colat and for most part colat came up higher but long sweep wasn't that bad either. With the new bug that sweep is being removed when entering boss combat if you chain pull adds onto boss your gonns end up losing sweep/colat stacks

minor gust
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I see yeah its really hard to tell when playing I do like hitting MS a lot to help with bladestorm timings started to lean towards only prioing op with an OPP proc so looks like I was on the right page.

fresh spire
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I also still scuffed SD usage a bit as really you want to prio sd to make sure you have 3xID for max bladestorm. Little more chaotic juggling

minor gust
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yeah I only send SD if its about to fall off or mobs are about to die and I need ID stacks

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or MFE stacks of course

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I do really dislike how the cdr for bladestorm works

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much more annoying to use than something like Demo cdr

fresh spire
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It's clunky for sure. Target swapping feels clunky

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Would perfer mfe to stack on the plsyer

minor gust
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mhmm

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same with EP

fresh spire
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Ep not so bad as it gains heavily in 2 target when sweeping executes. Mfe though when you have tons of targets at least for me feels more chaotic to ensure they are popped va ep

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Vs*

minor gust
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Slayer is much nicer in keys now tho it doesnt feel that bad compared to colossus

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havent really touched colossus since the buffs

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just been enjoying slayer more

echo marten
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Same

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We may lose abit of dps but we don't press slam so often

glass sphinx
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anyone having problems with when you use Sudden Death your CD on colossus stays the same even if u are 2 sec from getting it ready

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like i don't know how to explain it, but theres a bug there i think

unreal halo
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ive had that bug several times before with BS too

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i had like 4 secs to bladestorm, execute and then 4 seconds again, execute again and 4 seconds again

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its like its delaying it lmao

manic river
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How far behind is Slayer in keys currently?

bright ginkgo
lean geode
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Could be a bit off on the numbers but somewhere around there

manic river
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Well, is significant, but you can do the keys

minor gust
manic river
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Maybe in keys like Theater with less ads is nice

minor gust
unreal halo
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honestly not having the colossus knock up is pretty shit imo

bright ginkgo
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Hmm, okey. And i assume the dps loss is increased at increased amount of mobs?

minor gust
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yeah slayer is gonna do less aoe but more ST than colossus but its not that far behind to be a big deal

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but if your an overall chaser colossus will still be better

bright ginkgo
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Im a ”do the key ASAP” chaser

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So it might become useful then

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ToP potentially

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Ws maybe?

minor gust
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eh colossus still would be better in TOP colossus has great 2T and burst with demolish and theres still decent sized pulls

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its not really a ST dungeon

tacit crystal
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most of the pulls that wipe you there are aoe

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πŸ™‚

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actually

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those are the only ones that wipe you

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πŸ™‚

minor gust
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most routes skip both mini bosses aswell

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just got the 1 that you pull onto the pack at entrance anyways

tacit crystal
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bozo

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msg when they come up

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i go shower

random ibex
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what corruption enchant we getting?

azure sable
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I say Twilight devastation goes BRR

dim basalt
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The .5% brr

azure sable
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Void ritual is the lamest of them all

minor gust
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you can sim yourself but this is mine

azure sable
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Hmm

dim basalt
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What does echoing do

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Didn't play end of bfa

azure sable
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Aoe aroudn you

merry stone
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Did they nerf gushing wound? Assuming that’s coming back

minor gust
tall flare
minor gust
tall flare
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hmm

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feels like there all within Margin of Error tbf

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or atleast very close

minor gust
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pick your favorite doesnt really matter

tall flare
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indeed

astral yarrow
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If Tdev is remotely competetive ST no one is playing anything but that

minor gust
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poo poo beam from the sky

sharp wyvern
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just play the one that looks the coolest

azure sable
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Dungeon slice

minor gust
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Tentaculo

azure sable
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I knew the zugzug was talking to me when I saw Twilight devastation

azure sable
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Xd

little forge
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time to play the game

azure sable
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I wish It summoned a tentacruel

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That would be bis, 100%

minor gust
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well off to horrific vision jail to have a bad time because for some reason they decided to bring this back

swift crown
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it's ass in AoE

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Legit there's no reason to play anything but Ritual

minor gust
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2 hours of shit

astral yarrow
swift crown
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If it did damage

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to anything but a single target or extremely low target cleave

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maybe

tacit crystal
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@swift crown @minor gust @reef glade

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@silk spade

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w vault

swift crown
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No tier 8 delve vault

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for Monster Energy

silk spade
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weapon w

swift crown
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also take Big Red button now

reef glade
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Surely mechano core is real trinket at 671

tacit crystal
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for uh it is

tacit crystal
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me when i do wqs while to do key

swift crown
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It is

reef glade
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have 684 reverb and 671 eye maybe beats eye

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Def for fast fights probably

tacit crystal
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i kove when i dont have to recraft weapon

reef glade
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Idk bout sum like bandit but we simge later

tacit crystal
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w vault

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also got a nice colo weapon

smoky kayak
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well that was easy

tacit crystal
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swordish i upgraded my ring

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w vault archi

prime bramble
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God has his favorites lol

lean geode
prime bramble
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Probably doesn't need to for gear so unless climbing no point

boreal quartz
sharp wyvern
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Then only thing from keys you can get is catalyst items anyway

lean geode
boreal quartz
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Noob content doer

lean geode
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I got my Amp last week

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No more delvage for me

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Until new belt at least deadge

prime bramble
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I've yet to see a hero funhouse

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8 delves a week + bounty map

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Entire season

lean geode
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Just get myth HoC instead πŸ™‚

smoky kayak
manic pasture
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should, I be doing patch 5t or dungeon slice for aoe?

olive nest
manic pasture
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I simmed DC, and it told me TD and when I did 5t it told me VR

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Yeah, echo's is simming better for me than ritual

mild dagger
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Ugh, devour week.

tall flare
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oh great

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corruptions timegated even more so xD

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can only get lessers week one

minor gust
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yeah I cant seem to find the greater quest

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cancer if its timegated

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patch 11.1.5 the timegated

tall flare
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it is timegated

reef glade
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patch on April 20th, corruptions on may 20th (but not really)

vital mortar
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Guys should I add a amber gem to my gear to improve my Diamond crit effect?

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or is it not worth?

minor gust
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11.1.5 drops gotta wait a few weeks for turboboost wait another week for visions wait another week for greater enchants

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why do they do this they already know the playerbase hates the arbitrary timegating so you stay subbed longer

hollow plover
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it's most likely not worth but it could be different for your gear

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so sim it

shadow ibex
minor gust
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doing the same shitty world events killing mobs in 2-3 button presses

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very engaging content

shadow ibex
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I wonder if they use dance of death also

strange perch
frosty remnant
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this gotta be the best mythic raid vault of all time

manic pasture
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What do I go with, echo or ritual? They are simming around the same

minor gust
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pick whatever sounds cooler it doesnt matter

manic pasture
minor gust
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sim it and find out

random ibex
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is it even possible to get greater vision enchants this week?

minor gust
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no

vapid siren
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i wanna play TD :((

manic pasture
sturdy flicker
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so the lesser is what just 1% gain?

manic pasture
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It's different every time

minor gust
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then why you still asking in here what to pick

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you have the answer

shadow ibex
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Pick the name you like the most

vapid siren
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bruh TD sims the best on dungeon slice

naive breach
minor gust
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dude your fretting over a less than .01% difference it doesnt matter

hollow plover
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if in doubt, go for the single target one

minor gust
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if your unsure and need someone to tell you what to pick Archi has already given his advice in here

shadow ibex
nova marsh
naive breach
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looks like morrowind oblivion indie rpg

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looks kinda decent

shadow ibex
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Man I still gotta start the dark ages

smoky kayak
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qqing about not getting greaters asap is kinda w/e, the increase is so small

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plus we get another 3% from raid this week

sturdy flicker
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yeah barly anythign

shadow ibex
smoky kayak
minor gust
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Im just annoyed I have to do more visions next week to get the greater

smoky kayak
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in terms of throughput, it really is just Void Ritual across the board for everyone

minor gust
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idk how it is for other specs but atleast its close enough you can get away with kinda picking what you want for really minor differences

smoky kayak
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single target are all very close

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the gaps grow in multitarget, though you can't really depend on any of them to necessarily proc when you want them to either

minor gust
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thats why im not gonna track em dont wanna look at it activate as the pack dies

shadow ibex
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How many more things can contribute to my power

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Rep buff cyrce corruptions titan belt

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Give me more

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Extra upgrade ranks, dinars. Need more power

tacit crystal
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you need someone else to pilot your character

slow saddle
naive sage
tacit crystal
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huh

slow saddle
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I mean prob to many buffs but its good for my shitter guild🀣

rain cipher
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So is there a point play Arms over Fury when fight becomes shorter and shorter?

tacit crystal
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damage during relevant time

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which is execute

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mugzee oab damage that only matters is during execute

minor gust
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shorter the fight shorter the execute window is less dmg you deal

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welcome to arms

tacit crystal
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w

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bro during the vexie last week

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i had like 5 globals at 15 jug

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xd

minor gust
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JUGG SO HUGE

tacit crystal
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i think at this point

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you play colo

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try to get 2 demolishes

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in 1 damage phase

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also i dont think you parse if you are afk for 45s after first damage phase

manic pasture
#

do all of the head enchants proc the same? If they don't what do yall think procs the most

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I think echo's procs a bunch

tacit crystal
#

idk

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not gonna think about it just copy the updates channel

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not worth my time

shadow ibex
#

I just want traps like tom hardy

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Why can't that be a head enchant

weak rain
#

I am simming new enchants and sim keeps giving me different "bis" chants, I understand that this is margin of error

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but it seems like echoing and ritual are very close, which one is more "stable"

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you think

smoky kayak
#

if you ever have a question about your sim, you should link your sim

minor gust
minor gust
#

all this work and no one reads it

tacit crystal
weak rain
#

It doesn't answer my question though, I am looking for pure st mostly anyway

tacit crystal
#

how does it not answer your question

halcyon jacinth
#

If you're only interested in pure ST and want a straight answer why not just take the option that sims highest in ST

weak rain
#

because it's margin of error

minor gust
#

another person fretting over less than .01%

halcyon jacinth
weak rain
#

Was just interested of which one of them has less dps variance (high/low procs etc.)

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cba simming all that

shadow ibex
minor gust
#

ahhhhh that kinda of traps

tacit crystal
#

waste of time

weak rain
#

thats why I asked if anyone knows

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it's ok

hushed pine
#

So what's the common consensus? Void Ritual or Echoing?

minor gust
polar solstice
#

Thought people would be asking directly Chatgpt instead of not reading class discord by now

lyric cipher
#

If I don't have access to gallywix or bandit mythic items to buy from chips, and I only plan to do m+ from now on, what should I buy? Stopped raiding after sprocket

tight summit
#

Yo House of Cards vs Eye of Kezan? Can only pick one which one would I pick? Already got Pacemaker

lean geode
#

Kezan good for long fights

minor gust
#

pretty easy choice do you want a trinket thats good in all content or a trinket thats only good on 5 min + fights

lean geode
#

HoC good kinda everywhere

olive nest
#

My HOC loses to my funhouse lens

tight summit
#

Think I'll pick HoC then. Cheers guys.

minor gust
#

thats what you get for farming out a delve trinket

olive nest
#

I’m hard stuck 2.9M I can’t find any more upgrades except ilvl

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Uh correction, I could gain 15k from optimizing gems last I checked

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Gotta do that soon probably

#

After vault today I’ll re check it

minor gust
#

Move speed gem + 4 diff color gems + 2 of whatever because it doesnt matter

weary compass
#

can you get the lesser vision enchants this week?

twin hazel
smoky kayak
#

That’s something you can sim, idk your gear

willow seal
#

This non mythic raid Dinar thing sucks.

sturdy flicker
#

I still need a one armed kill so I can use my cartel chips

minor gust
#

sucks but you should be rewarded for actually playing the game

shadow ibex
#

I'm surprised they didn't add a way to upgrade studded retroactively yet

minor gust
#

tho I do think you should be allowed to buy the raid myth stuff if you do like all 16s or something

spiral coral
#

I have time to do 16s I don’t have time to mythic raid

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Oh well

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Get what I can get

trim arrow
#

yo quick question! in singletarget m+ when warbreaker and demolish dont line up do i hold warbreaker? or just send?

rare kite
#

no free mythic loot for those that haven't killed mythic but also makes it not to feel bad to dinar something like eye of kezan heroic

shadow ibex
#

It's just such a glaring oversight idk

#

It's obvious players are gonna feel like well i don't want to spend cuz what if I kill X later

#

How do you make the system and not fucking see that lol

willow seal
native obsidian
#

It's supposed to be bad luck protection eg I'm already killing the boss, not I'm hoping to kill it someday

smoky kayak
#

all 25s

minor gust
willow seal
#

12s which is very easy to do lets you buy mythic gear
so AOTC should be the way to buy mythic raid gear.

or if we want bad luck protection. dont give mythic dungeon gear. Dungeons dont drop mythic anyways

smoky kayak
smoky kayak
stoic epoch
#

how is arms feeling this season ? thought about giving it a visit again fun to play in m+ ?

smoky kayak
#

if anything, they should have unlocked with KSL, but meh

native obsidian
#

People complaining about dinars are so dense I swear they would be thrilled if all the mythic gear was on a vendor at the beginning of the season

smoky kayak
#

still, the whole point is that you can get gear from the content that you're doing, not getting gear from other sources

minor gust
#

nothing wrong with rewarding players for doing the content. The Dinar is bad luck protection if you dont mythic raid then you were never gonna get a mythic Jastors anyways so why should you just be given one just because Dinar is out.

sage bison
#

someone please tell me these visions**** re slopping isnt the laziest dogshit event they could have given us

smoky kayak
#

I swear idk why some of yall play the game

spiral coral
#

Another week. Another vault with no upgrades 😭

native obsidian
#

Normally we don't get anything like this at all and all people want for it to be more free

minor gust
#

^

spiral coral
#

Guess I’ll take the Big Red Button for memes

native obsidian
#

I hope they learn their lesson and just tell us all to get fucked

sage bison
#

i think people have just been indoctrinated for so long by blizz they will gladly shovel dawgshit into their mouths and say thank you to blizz

spiral coral
#

I didn’t know there was a huge group of people calling for something like dinars. Didn’t seem necessary to me idk

flat willow
#

I think there should be 2 good mythic + trinkets

spiral coral
minor gust
willow seal
#

then just dont implement dinar in the first place. even the 6 ilvl boost wss not needed

smoky kayak
minor gust
sage bison
smoky kayak
#

then don't do them

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nobody is forcing you lol

minor gust
#

you dont understand Archi theres a gun to this mans head

sage bison
#

If you enjoy the game in any capacity and want to stay competitive you have to, but just dont do them bro hehehe

smoky kayak
#

also idk, I think they're kinda fun dracthyr_shrug
like on 0 mask you literally just run through and blast, it's basically a delve

spiral coral
#

This will be my first week taking tokens of merit? I think? I gotta google wtf you can even get with them

smoky kayak
native obsidian
smoky kayak
#

it took me literally 15 minutes to unlock my enchant

sage bison
#

goalpost moving xd

flat willow
#

what did visions ever do to you that you'd enjoy 12 hours of scrap more

smoky kayak
#

your goal post didn't exist in the first place

sage bison
#

You said "if you dont like, then dont do" now its "its just 15 minutes brooo"

flat willow
#

I can understand not enjoying them but they aren't that awful

smoky kayak
#

so technically you moved the goal post by adding new criteria

sage bison
#

im just salty out of all the rehashed events we coulda got, we got visions

minor gust
#

I dont like visions but I get my enchant in under an hour and dont give af anymore its not a big deal

smoky kayak
#

and what exactly is the problem with visions anyway? 0 mask is a joke, and you don't ever have to go furhter

minor gust
#

some people do like visions so let them enjoy it

spiral coral
#

People (mainly us) forget that the vast majority of people that play this game do world content and have zero intentions of doing anything harder and just wanna vibe

smoky kayak
#

I mean they're a lot more fun than Torghast was

spiral coral
#

Shocking I know

smoky kayak
#

its basically just a delve

frosty remnant
#

anyone have an advanced sim string for the corruptions cant find it in here

smoky kayak
#

you can use top gear

frosty remnant
#

oh i see

#

thanks!

smoky kayak
#

I just don't understand why people take the most benign thing imaginable and then act like its a huge insult against them personally

sage bison
#

Critizing shitty content = taking it personally

#

epitome of why blizz gets away with nightfall quality shit

smoky kayak
#

with how over the top you came in, kinda feels like you're taking it pesonally

#

and who said anything about Nightfall? lmao

sage bison
#

its an example

#

xd

smoky kayak
#

its an event that you don't even need to do lol

minor gust
#

devs didnt make something I like, fuck everyone else

smoky kayak
#

there's not even power attached to nightfall

spiral coral
#

There is for my alts

sage bison
#

Devs promo'd it on roadmap for something to be excited for

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released in shambles

spiral coral
#

I have so many geared alts I’m never gonna play it’s awesome

smoky kayak
#

to collectors it probably is exciting dracthyr_shrug

minor gust
#

congratz some people liked visions

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some people never got to do them if they didnt play BFA

spiral coral
#

I haven’t done them yet

minor gust
#

its .5 patch content who cares

smoky kayak
#

but speaking of moving goalposts, you went from bitching about how Visions are the worst thing ever and you're FORCED to do them for power

and now you're bitching about Nightfall, which is something that awards no power

sage bison
#

D.r.i.v.e was half the promo for undermine(d) and its the most nonchalont shit ever

smoky kayak
#

it just really doesn't feel like you even enjoy the game lol

sage bison
#

Quality is shit across all content releases

#

i enjoy raiding xd

spiral coral
#

I don’t and I believe the content we’ve been given has been overall good

#

And they’ve spoiled us to some extent

#

There’s a ton of shit to do

sage bison
#

You're literally just shilling unable to just say the events arent high quality compared to past events/other games (thats goal post moving)

smoky kayak
#

the design is fine, the real issue is just bugs with them

native obsidian
#

You can never expect everyone to be happy with wow because there are so many with the mental caliber of lophius out there. They are somehow managing to roll together every dumbass take at once

smoky kayak
sage bison
#

i was saying i was

smoky kayak
#

also I never said the events were "high quality", I just asked what your problem was with them

#

cause you're acting like visions are some terrible thing you're forced to spend an eternity on

sage bison
#

Nah its not that deep

#

"im just salty out of all the rehashed events we coulda got, we got visions"

smoky kayak
#

you'd just rather shovel dogshit, yadda yadda

sage bison
#

xd comprehension

smoky kayak
#

idk of all the rehashed stuff we coulda got... visions aren't bad? Like again, what exactly is wrong with them?

#

on 0 mask, it's basically a delve, you just hold W and blast

sage bison
#

Its old BUT recent shit, nothing new, same liquid spots, same masks (plus 3 wowee) same routes

smoky kayak
#

not sure I would call 6 years "recent"

sage bison
#

in wow terms

#

thats recent

#

snail pace development

smoky kayak
#

that's almost a third of the game's lifespan

minor gust
#

Legion almost 10 years ago

smoky kayak
#

better cancel remix, legion is too recent

spiral coral
smoky kayak
#

I'd rather be forced to do 12 hours of S.C.R.A.P than redo Legion!

#

/s

clear thistle
#

So I'm sitting at 32% crit and 30% haste and the sims are telling me to swap to Mastery gear and drop crit. Is that correct?

sage bison
#

recent

minor gust
smoky kayak
spiral coral
smoky kayak
#

I'm not sure you know what the word "recent" means lol

spiral coral
#

Lophius what do you propose blizzard change about the newer content released?

minor gust
#

I recently had my 21st birthday. I am now 27

fossil dagger
fair siren
sage bison
fair siren
#

I am being nice

smoky kayak
sage bison
#

People hated time rifts, but that was at least unique

smoky kayak
#

because 9/10 times the people who bitch the most about needing to be "competitive" are the least competitive players among us

fair siren
#

Indeed or they have delusion on what being competitive means

sage bison
#

gatekeeping competitiveness l0l

smoky kayak
#

sounds like the Visions are already doing that enough for you

spiral coral
sage bison
#

If ur not world first, ur not competitive btw

fathom shoal
#

Atleast we didn't get rehashed island expeditions okayge

sage bison
#

or cant be

smoky kayak
sage bison
fair siren
#

There’s 0% chance this kid is doing anything that requires them to be doing masks

smoky kayak
#

you don't even need to do masks for corruptions!

fair siren
#

Yet it’s the end of the world to them

smoky kayak
#

you can literally be completely done with visions in 15m

sage bison
smoky kayak
#

and have nothing to complain about

spiral coral
#

Like do you want blizz to jack up the hp of the stuff? Or make something completely brand new right before a new expac?

smoky kayak
spiral coral
#

I think you just want to not like the game, and that’s ok.

smoky kayak
#

^

#

seriously though, you came in here making an epic bitch fest about how much you hate the game

and you expect us not to make fun of you? like c'mon brother

fair siren
#

Idk if they don’t like the game or not tbh it seems more of an attention seeking thing

#

The argument is not coherent enough imo to be genuine

sage bison
#

me saying i was satly

#

xd

smoky kayak
#

kid, really?

sage bison
#

Epic!! bitchfest!!!

fair siren
#

Epic bitch fest material

smoky kayak
#

"oh I'm just saying I'm salty, tee hee"

minor gust
#

just a lil salty

#

just a silly lil guy

smoky kayak
#

TIL dog shit is salty

fossil dagger
#

Do you also go to twitch channels of people playing WoW and tell them how much you hate wow

minor gust
#

Why are you having fun doing visions! Stop having fun!

smoky kayak
#

for real

fossil dagger
#

You’re the β€œPEOPLE STILL PLAY THIS GAME?” guy under random YouTube videos

sage bison
#

no one is having fun in visions lmfao, anyone saying otherwise is lying

sharp wyvern
#

this is the guy who doesnt want an armour to have recolors cause its lazy and no one wants them

minor gust
#

dont you know I hate visions!

smoky kayak
#

I had fun

fossil dagger
#

I love visions

forest hearth
#

IDK man I've been having a good time

fossil dagger
#

I’m glad they’re back

sage bison
#

ye a third of games lifespan ago

fair siren
#

Yeah this is bait for sure

smoky kayak
#

I did all five objectives

#

then I got some tacos

#

it's been a good day tbh

fair siren
#

Imagine a casual trying to speak for this discord

minor gust
#

again theres a ton of people who have literally never done visions this will be new for all of them lmao

fossil dagger
#

Okay unfair

sage bison
fossil dagger
#

Wait

sage bison
#

it was shit

fossil dagger
#

You

#

Why the fuck did you do it then?

sharp wyvern
#

enchant

minor gust
#

hes doing it hes playing!

sage bison
#

cause i was forced to (:

smoky kayak
#

apparently he wouldn't rather be forced to do 12 hours of S.C.R.A.P. than redo visions

sharp wyvern
#

he already did 12h of srap farming clearly

sage bison
#

give scrap corruptions im there day in day out

fair siren
#

You weren’t forced to

sage bison
#

clocking in and out like a shift worker

sharp wyvern
minor gust
#

muh parse

fair siren
#

You have like 10 achievements you’re obviously brand new

sage bison
#

muh progging team

untold pewter
# sage bison

Did the same, literal PTSD

Absolutely disgusting content

sharp wyvern
#

ive never done visions so its new content to me

smoky kayak
#

how DARE Blizzard force me to have fun!

sage bison
smoky kayak
#

I'm calling my lawyer

sharp wyvern
#

lmao

sage bison
#

you will have fun

sharp wyvern
#

litteraly 1984

smoky kayak
#

I did have fun

minor gust
#

literally 1984

sage bison
#

blizz could burn your house down and youd have fun

sharp wyvern
#

if you enjoy stuff in your life its litteraly 1984

spiral coral
#

Is this Asmons YouTube moderator or something?

minor gust
#

I would have fun cuz then I can sue blizzard and make a lot of money for burning my house down

sharp wyvern
#

you have to be a nihilist to not be an NPC

minor gust
#

will be very fun

spiral coral
#

Just coming in here to mald about wow

fair siren
#

Nah this kid is under 18 for sure

fossil dagger
#

He was recently 12 though

sharp wyvern
fair siren
#

Brain still developing

minor gust
smoky kayak
# sage bison

you know there's a lot of irony in completely misunderstanding the point of that scene

sharp wyvern
smoky kayak
#

like... you know where that's from, right?

#

please tell me you know where its actually from

sharp wyvern
#

clearly from the year 1984

minor gust
#

duh 1984 didnt you read the emote

tacit crystal
#

i love skyhold πŸ™‚

fair siren
#

He’s googling it

smoky kayak
#

ironically it was created and first came out in 1983

sharp wyvern
#

i didnt live in 1984 so i wouldnt know

fossil dagger
#

Horrible year, not that I was there.

sage badge
minor gust
sharp wyvern
#

ususally this kind of stuff happens in fury chat

minor gust
#

hes up in arms

sage badge
#

I didnt even know visions are live. I havent logged in since the weekend.

fossil dagger
minor gust
#

seems like hes tuckered himself out and calmed down

sage badge
#

Wait, you're the one that posts stats and stuff.

smoky kayak
sage badge
tacit crystal
#

skyhold is peak

nova marsh
#

Noone determines how others have fun?

smoky kayak
#

especially if you want to be competitive

sage badge
#

I'm not even 680+ ilvl

nova marsh
sharp wyvern
#

are you not competitive des?

smoky kayak
#

not without his corruption enchant he won't be!

sage bison
smoky kayak
#

and even if you don't, you'll do them anyway

sage bison
#

nah you will

smoky kayak
#

and then come bitch about it to a bunch of strangers who think you're fucking weird

sage bison
#

the thought police says so

#

thus must be

#

FUN

sage bison
#

fuck s.c.r.a.p , its F.U.N

sharp wyvern
#

you got us

sage badge
#

I mean, I've been dabbling in pet battles recently. It's actually pretty fun.

minor gust
tacit crystal
#

STOP SAYING THE F WORD

smoky kayak
#

yes, and what other giant corporation are you convincing us to back in order to break barriers here? KEKWlaughslow

tacit crystal
#

ITS MEAN AND EXCLUDES ME

sage bison
tacit crystal
#

STOP

#

NO FUN

#

GRRRR

sharp wyvern
#

if you play wow and have fun you are litteraly a sheep

#

real wow players are miserable

minor gust
#

lmao

forest hearth
#

baa

smoky kayak
#

well at least I ain't no LAMB

forest hearth
#

idk man once I got the single button fishing addons I've started enjoying the angling journey now that heroic has been on farm for a bit

nova marsh
#

Real wow players are depressed and throw hissy baby fits any time blizz changes anything

olive nest
#

goats are cooler!

sharp wyvern
minor gust
#

I do love the internet classic of I dont find said thing good so ima shit on everyone who thinks the opposite and call em npcs or sheeps

smoky kayak
#

"i'm just salty bro"

#

jus a lil SaltShake

sharp wyvern
sage bison
#

"its FUN"

smoky kayak
#

it's not that serious tho

sage bison
#

bro just sets a tonality in his head and runs wild with it

#

must be nice

sharp wyvern
#

the irony holy

nova marsh
#

Sometimes I think wow players have more fun shitting on the game then playing it

#

....no wait this is actually true

spiral coral
fair siren
#

Polyphia?

nova marsh
spiral coral
nova marsh
#

Classic players shit on retail more then ffxiv players do

fair siren
fossil dagger
#

This is awkward

spiral coral
#

Saw them live with my daughter 10/10

fossil dagger
#

I have more hours in Classic than retail this year

spiral coral
#

I have more hours in osrs

fossil dagger
#

despairge

spiral coral
nova marsh
#

Wow is my most played game oat

#

Unfortunately

fair siren
#

One of my wow friends went to high school with them and didn’t/ still don’t know who they are

spiral coral
#

Mine would be StarCraft/starcraft 2

#

Easily 15k+ hours

#

Playing since I was like 8?

nova marsh
#

I'm pretty sure I've hit 20k hours in wow

sharp wyvern
#

its a good thing there isnt a total playtime counter like on steam

nova marsh
#

OH GOD

sharp wyvern
#

let me live in blissfull arogance

spiral coral
#

I really like that

fair siren
#

You could /played your chars

nova marsh
spiral coral
#

It’s disgusting seeing 5k hours on CSGO

nova marsh
#

Then fucking cry

#

My warrior has like 400 days

sharp wyvern
#

did you not just read what i said

smoky kayak
sharp wyvern
#

dont tempt me

nova marsh
fair siren
#

Archi warrior has like 700 days played

smoky kayak
nova marsh
#

Better then adding up your total time spent in pre mades

sharp wyvern
#

he has won the argument right there

#

nothing we can do

spiral coral
#

We’re all shills

smoky kayak
nova marsh
#

My warr basically has my entire playtime from bfa and shadowlands on them

smoky kayak
#

@fossil dagger I have two tacos left to finish

#

it's starting to become a struggle

sharp wyvern
smoky kayak
#

he's laughing his ass fucking off

#

what's so werid about that?

sharp wyvern
#

never seen it written like that

#

and he did it twice now

fair siren
#

Werid

#

Can’t unsee that

forest hearth
spiral coral
#

Enhance is a PvP enjoyer, this is why. Move along.

sharp wyvern
#

who is this enhance you are talking about

spiral coral
#

Everyone looks over like wtf as he proceeds to demolish his tacos

forest hearth
#

Sometimes you have to let out a loud belch to assert dominance and free up some space

sharp wyvern
#

i hope if they ever make a support warrior spec they call it "Legs"

#

the class would finally be complete

nova marsh
#

Pvp?

#

That's disgusting

sturdy compass
#

visions is more fun than meadery thats for sure

olive nest
#

hey look im cool too!!

#

not only that but this thing droppped LOL

#

100+ dry in bfa

#

got it today second run

#

:classic:

minor gust
olive nest
sturdy compass
#

Gg on muncher

dire hinge
#

im having a blast with this gladge

sturdy compass
#

I just got done with mage tower

dire hinge
#

can't seem to get the Multitudes mask, might be a bug? idk

sturdy compass
#

It was fun but I almost fucked up by celebrating too early kek

nova marsh
#

I just want the bike man

calm isle
#

Hey guys, all my parses dissapeared on Warcraft logs except my 3 mythic kills.

Is this a known issue? Has anyone else run into it today

sturdy compass
#

The sweat killer

nova marsh
#

evrey new patch has it's own set of parses

#

I assume they count it as one due to the corruption enchants

dire hinge
#

got a link? we can confirm

calm isle
#

Even if I try to search them by the previous patch. I've discovered though, my page jsut wont switch from Mythic> Heroic or normal.

#

Yea for sure

split frigate
#

Anyone know the best corruption for helmet?

dire hinge
#

this seems like a warcraftlogs bug yeah

split frigate
#

gushing wounds seems good

calm isle
#

Thanks Hrothmar, i'll keep an eye on it then and hope it resovles πŸ™‚

dire hinge
#

just to visualize what Luka's experiencing, if they swap the difficulty dropdown, the actual content being displayed isn't changing

calm isle
#

Also sorry for my shameful mythic parses warrior fam.

dire hinge
#

this seems to be a caching issue @calm isle you can fix it by adding &cachebreaker=true on the end of the URL

#

(it doesn't have to be cachebreaker, you can literally just type garbage into the URL like &alaksjdfhlaksdjfh and it'll work)

#

just has to be a unique URL

#

It's a WCL thing though, not your fault β™₯️

calm isle
#

That fixed it ❀️ Thanks for the help!!

dire hinge
#

of course, happy to FingerGuns

hollow plover
#

hrothmar guardian angel

dire hinge
#

i just like helping people ExcitedBlushette