arms

[hollow plover]

then start incorporating the optimizations u mentioned

yepyep

u right

[nova marsh]

Guys do yall charge for resil keys

[hollow plover]

no thats lowlife behavior

[nova marsh]

That's what I thought

People out here like "10k per attempt!" What the fuck

[hollow plover]

if you see a warrior player charging for keys, whisper them and set them straight

if its another class - not our problem

they usually do such things

especially vdh fotm players, hunters and mages

[minor gust]

It's cringe but hey is what it is report em and move on it's Blizzards problem.

[peak ingot]

Yo, I'm pretty new to arms and I have a basic question, is Slayer viable at all compared to Colossus for M+? I absolutely despise demolish as an ability but arms seems pretty fun.

[hollow plover]

its not close at a high level, but it's completely viable up to 15s

above 15s you might start to struggle

[peak ingot]

Tyvm!

And I assume the opposite is true for raiding? as in slayer being obviously superior for boss damage

[hollow plover]

p much

[peak ingot]

That sucks 😦 wish every class had 2 viable hero trees for ST/AOE like enh

But ty either way

[hollow plover]

thats an anomaly, not a common thing

[minor gust]

If Noxiv can do 19s as fury you can do slayer arms on 19s

[hollow plover]

[peak ingot]

Fury is GOATED playstyle but holy AoE cap

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-handle-the-truth-gif-7916035

[hollow plover]

[void bay]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-not-nope-no-no-way-no-chance-gif-17243246

[minor gust]

feel free to give reasons

[void bay]

Im crap

[minor gust]

skill issue not spec issue then

[void bay]

aye

[hollow plover]

obviously

I'd argue every spec in the game can do 19s

but like

not very easy

[minor gust]

basically M+ in a nutshell

just gotta play the key clean and you can play anything

[sage badge]

Arms owns.

[tacit crystal]

[minor gust]

[nova marsh]

You ever just

Die to your own stupidity of putting a dot up at the start of a pull

[rare kite]

yea and then you blame tank

[flat willow]

No but I once died from the buff in rookery attacking mobs behind a wall 40 yards away

Never took the buff since

[nova marsh]

Bro I had a brick to that shit

[flat willow]

Yeah, not very fun

Especially with how shit the buff is

Just not worth it

[silk spade]

theres a buff in rookery?

[rare kite]

yea when going down after first boss. if you use the ability on the birds you get a small damage thing

for 5m

[outer holly]

Is there a database or something I can pull the slayer apl from without running a sim myself?

[tacit crystal]

like to see the apl?

[outer holly]

yeah

[tacit crystal]

simulation craft github

[outer holly]

thanks gio, think I found it, looks like each line break separates the different specs and execute/aoe/cleave prios?

[tacit crystal]

yeah

the big breaks outline that

[nova marsh]

Guys I'm actually gonna just throw myself off a bridge

Had an almost perfect cinderbrew run

Ruined because my internet decided I wasn't allowed to play the game anymore and made it into a fucking slideshow

[void bay]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-haha-lol-rofl-lmao-gif-6236552867145115183

[nova marsh]

MY SALT IS ETERNAL

This makes me more mad then the Nokund that got bricked back in DF S1 because the boss decided to reset....altough at least that was kinda funny

[spiral coral]

Oh no you wasted time in WoW

It’s all wasted time because the season ends eventually

[nova marsh]

I mean ur not wrong

I just wanted 3k so I can go play something good

[spiral coral]

My friend has been playing with the same loot he got like a decade ago in guild wars

Shits wild

[nova marsh]

ew

[spiral coral]

THeY ReSpECt My TiMe

[nova marsh]

Look

[spiral coral]

Guild wars open world PvP is something else lol

[nova marsh]

wow is a waste of time because blizz will shut the servers down in like 5 more years anyways

[dim basalt]

Wat

[nova marsh]

This is a joke

[spiral coral]

Hard for me to imagine the future the older I get

[minor gust]

im still hoping for wow 2 on a new engine. Classic wow exists and can remain just make new content on a new engine.

[spiral coral]

I can see that

Retail becomes Retail Classic

[nova marsh]

This is just not gonna happen

Unfortauntely

[minor gust]

I mean it very much can

[spiral coral]

It very much can?

[minor gust]

idk why people say it wont

[nova marsh]

Yeah but like is it actually worth it for blizz to do that

I still don't think it is.

[minor gust]

up to them to decide

[spiral coral]

Depends on the suits at the end of the day

[minor gust]

and how they want to take wow

[nova marsh]

MMOs take a fuck ton of time to develop, and kind of gambling on weather a sequel would pull in the numbers it needs to when they could just keep going as is is....ehhhh

It's kind of like a risky move.

[spiral coral]

Destiny 2 wanted to create a new engine but the suits told them it would take too long

[minor gust]

so is continuing wow for another 10-20 years on the same shit engine

[spiral coral]

Even though a new engine would provide more content more quickly

[minor gust]

we see it constantly how bad this engine is

[spiral coral]

Making the new engine would stop the cash flow

[nova marsh]

Tbh I don't think wow's engine is that bad

[minor gust]

its terrible

[nova marsh]

It's just severely outdated

[minor gust]

yeah

[spiral coral]

It’s really bad and the hodgepodged spaghetti coding everywhere

[minor gust]

theres only so much they can keep doing to it.

[nova marsh]

Tbh I'd be shocked if wow ditched spaghetti coding even with a new engine

I also just think the wow community would not react well to it

[spiral coral]

They don’t react to anything well

[nova marsh]

Being asked to....leave behind 20 years of progress to start in a new game unless they wonna carry stuff over

[spiral coral]

Except housing

[minor gust]

this is so fake tho

they will 100% carry things over

[nova marsh]

I mean....sure?

If they do, that just kinda adds to the work load.

[minor gust]

they can and they will because yeah people have a lot of time investment

so they 100% would go the route of adding everything over

[nova marsh]

Like a wow 2 might take 5 years to develop

Or more

[minor gust]

which is normal for game development

[spiral coral]

I think they’ve shown with Dragon Flight and this expansion that they’re willing to do, whatever they fuck they want and thankfully really don’t listen to us. Because if they did, the game would go nowhere.

[bright ginkgo]

Why would they do something that will only be noticed by less than 2% of their player base

[nova marsh]

Yeah but like....you'd probally end up putting retail on life support for a while

[minor gust]

wow 2 would develop in the background like most of their projects

[nova marsh]

Ehhh this is true

[minor gust]

they already make new expansions like this

[nova marsh]

Idk, who knows maybe wow 2 is in develop and it's the plan post World soul saga

[minor gust]

thats the idea

[nova marsh]

Altough that'd be really fucking funny to me

[stable fiber]

not a single parse with spear on cauldron

[nova marsh]

Blizz just be like "hey at the end of wow's life cycle we're gonna do playerhousing"

[stable fiber]

time for me to change that

[minor gust]

isnt something like the last expansion supposed to be whenever this dumb titan soul thing bursts

wouldnt lore wise that means the end of the world idk

[nova marsh]

We literally have no idea!

[spiral coral]

Yes

[minor gust]

I coulda sworn thats what metzen said when he was announcing the trilogy

[nova marsh]

it could make the planet expload, azeroth could be fine and now we just have a giant shadow and light mommy to watch over us, who the hell knows

[minor gust]

who knows

[nova marsh]

Blizzard dosen't respect their own lore anyways

[minor gust]

all speculation but if they wanted a wow 2 angle this would be the best moment

[nova marsh]

as proven by DF being an expansion where the goal is to literally undo the ending of cata

[minor gust]

yeah wow lore died for me a long time ago

cba now

[nova marsh]

Wow lore died after Teldrassil

[minor gust]

shittt way before that for me

[nova marsh]

...and shadowlands. Honestly more so shadowlands

[spiral coral]

I loved the DF story lines

[minor gust]

wow lore died with the end of legion

[nova marsh]

they were good but like

[minor gust]

I used to be a big lore guy and that was my ending. lore has been trash ever since now I just skip all that shit

[nova marsh]

The ending and, again, the entire goal being to just basically remove the entire weight behind cata's ending, an ending that's already kinda trash mind you.....is just....so weird

[spiral coral]

Bfa ruined lore imo

[nova marsh]

Na this is true

A bit of legion too but mostly BFA

Which is a shame because I love kul tirans

[spiral coral]

Like them making weird morality stuff like the alliance being genocidal to Vulperas

Bfa doesn’t get enough hate

[spiral coral]

LEGION?! Did someone say….. REEEEEEMIIIIIX

[nova marsh]

Honestly still kinda excited to level something during that

And maybe this time I'll actually play it unlike the lock I did

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/beau-airhorn-superstore-gif-23153672

[minor gust]

im not I love Legion but the whole remix thing is dumb

well see how exactly it works but so far not gonna play it

I want Legion gameplay back not play legion with TWW gameplay

[nova marsh]

tbh I'd just like actual good gameplay at this point

God class design this tier is just....rough

[outer holly]

https://tenor.com/view/step-brothers-you-should-be-medicated-gif-45369344974013596

[nova marsh]

I just want some cool legion xmog

[minor gust]

oh boy cant wait to play slayer arms in a legion raid

[spiral coral]

I know I played legion. But, I don’t remember shit about it.

[minor gust]

woooooowwwww so funnnnnnn

im afk till Legion classic comes out please baby green Jesus skip wod

[outer holly]

ah, a classic andy

[minor gust]

[nova marsh]

Tbh

Lowkey thinking mop classic is a better use of my time

[minor gust]

eh I stopped with wotlk classic

[outer holly]

i do have a bit of nostalgia for when fury of the eagle was a good surv button

[minor gust]

going through cata and mop again im good ill pass

[spiral coral]

Classic endgame… is, insanity

[nova marsh]

I played just the orginal release

and then quit

because classic is kinda borin

[outer holly]

but LEGION classic, totally different story

[minor gust]

yeah when I can finally play Legion arms

and truly get to experience it

[nova marsh]

Tbh I somewhat doubt blizz will go to legion

Simply because they know it will shank retail

[spiral coral]

I played rogue all throughout legion. Never played warrior till DF

[minor gust]

nah if they are doing MOP they def will just keep going

I thought they would stop with WOTLK but here we are cata and mop

[nova marsh]

WoD is gonna be funny

[spiral coral]

Can’t wait for Dragon Flight Classic in 2035

[minor gust]

until Legion classic comes out all I got is retail and vanilla

[nova marsh]

I mean I wouldn't play classic anyways

I already went through legion

Once is enough for me

I'd rather just play a different game

[minor gust]

vanilla is a completely different game thats why I still enjoy playing it occasionally

[spiral coral]

I got my warrior to level 56 on hardcore classic, that was my last classic experience.

[minor gust]

its a good chill vibe and actually feels like an MMO

retail lost that feeling but the pve gameplay is still really good

[nova marsh]

Honestly at this point I don't think anyone will be happy with any modern MMO

Because literally none of them feel like an MMO at this point

[spiral coral]

osrs feels like an mmo still, just go and talk to people randomly and vibe out and go do stuff

My boy is still rp’ing as a cow

[nova marsh]

....yes but isn't OSRS a classic version of RS?

[minor gust]

yeah OSRS and vanilla still hold that true mmo feeling

[spiral coral]

Welllllll

Sure

[nova marsh]

Most of the modern mmos have just lost what people have told me made MMOs feel special

[minor gust]

I think theres hope for the Riot MMO

Mainly because I guess the Riot CEO and a bunch of the MMO developers were part of the Onlyfangs thing

[nova marsh]

Ehhhh I somewhat doubt it

I don't think we've gotten anything about it for literal years at this point

Not a peep

[spiral coral]

I blame the players. And guides. And walkthrough videos. And minmaxing everything even simple games like Stardew. People won’t discover things for themselves or really enjoy what the devs are giving them.

[minor gust]

If their looking for vanilla wow as their inspiration I can see it

[nova marsh]

This is just the entirity of gaming at this point

[minor gust]

They decided to start over after Ghost Crawler left

[spiral coral]

Yee

[nova marsh]

Like when it's the players you just gotta accept it's never coming back

[spiral coral]

I wish people talked in game more

[waxen quail]

Focused Rage pre-nerf was so damn fun

[spiral coral]

Ppl wanna complain about playing solo but don’t wanna fuckin conversateee

[dim basalt]

In 2030

Because they restarted development last year

[minor gust]

fine with me I can wait

[dim basalt]

Didn't Ghostcrawler leave in 2023 already tho?

[cerulean scroll]

tough to say who is a worse dev bliz or riot

[minor gust]

He left awhile ago to start his own MMO

[dim basalt]

Riot is good wdym

[minor gust]

Arcane vs Warcraft movie

pretty sure Arcane wins soooooooooooo

[dim basalt]

Like, you really can't say they don't care

If they didn't they would have put down LoR already

It never was lucrative lol

[minor gust]

Riot CEO has said many times they are fine with things being a "Financial loss" because it builds the brand.

[dim basalt]

They keep the game to properly develop lore

Which is kinda nice

League is too much of a mess for that

[cerulean scroll]

maybe im just delulu then, but i feel like bliz went through the same phases for their brand and now riot is going down the same path again

[minor gust]

Blizz did the opposite they ruined their brand

and they have been ruining it for years now

[cerulean scroll]

warcraft and starcraft was pretty good

and thats when they built their brand

[nova marsh]

Blizzard didn't just ruin their brand

[minor gust]

yeah and then they ruined it

[nova marsh]

They literally shat on it. Multiple times

[cerulean scroll]

yea so now

league was pretty good

and they are making a mmo out of it

[minor gust]

Yeah leagues been declining too but clearly people are itching for something different in the league universe

especially after the massive success of Arcane

[cerulean scroll]

league into riot mmo is a worse timing vs wc3 into wow

[minor gust]

Eh I dont think so but only time will tell

[mighty aurora]

Is there any info regarding corruption stuff for warriors somewhere?

[minor gust]

well see how well it does when it comes out

[nova marsh]

I mean it'll have to be literally a god like MMO for me to try it

Idk if I'd want to invest into another mmo

[minor gust]

if the gameplay is smooth like wows it will do well I believe

[nova marsh]

Smoothe like wow's and dosen't need addons

[cerulean scroll]

bigger gap and league is gonna keep getting less popular but yea time will tell, it could be a banger and win the world

[nova marsh]

Literally just GG there

[cerulean scroll]

smooth like wow is a pretty high standard, i don't think we got anything that got close? im not sure

[minor gust]

yeah I think theres a ton of league fans tho just waiting but have 0 interest in league the game itself. Which is why I think the MMO has a big chance here

[dim basalt]

Not was, still is

League players doom whenever they get the chance

[minor gust]

debateable

[cerulean scroll]

they have to somehow bang out alot of meta world content to keep their fan base

[dim basalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'm hoping Riots MMO will be as smooth as WoW but that bar is insanely high

[cerulean scroll]

you can only do so many arcanes

[dim basalt]

Especially for release

[minor gust]

yeah thats why a lot of the so called wow killer mmos always died out was always the poor clunky gameplay think current ff14 is as close as a tab target mmo has ever gotten to wow

[nova marsh]

and even 14 is still a far cry off

[minor gust]

yeah

[dim basalt]

Is it?

[nova marsh]

Imo yes

So much of it like movement ESPICALLY feels clunky

[dim basalt]

Oh nvm you talked about gameplay

Thought you meant popularity

[minor gust]

yeah just gameplay

ff14 is def popular and successful

[nova marsh]

Idk if it's more popular then wow post DT

[cerulean scroll]

plays ff14, cast a melee spell, game grabs my camera and face the mob, alt f4 and deletes game

[nova marsh]

But eh dosen't really matter when talking about gameplay

[dim basalt]

GW2 gameplay is pretty nice

[minor gust]

but yeah all depends on gameplay I think if the Riot MMO cracks it and is perfectly smooth like wow it will def become massively successful. People are really into the league universe just like people were really into warcraft

[nova marsh]

It'll even be interesting cuz I think the Riot mmo is the last...like

[cerulean scroll]

i think they dont have to compete on gameplay vs wow

[dim basalt]

But if we are being realistic, it won't be nearly as good in the beginning

[nova marsh]

super high profile mmo project left

[dim basalt]

Can't nail that on release

[cerulean scroll]

focus more on in game systems and game loop/ world building

different audience

if they never played wow they wont need wow like smooth gameplay

[nova marsh]

Kind of needs to be similiar thou

If it's tab target.

[minor gust]

its an MMO they are def looking at the MMO audience

[nova marsh]

And wow is just still the king of Tab target by miles

[minor gust]

I dont think the goal is to turn league players into MMO players

[dim basalt]

^

[nova marsh]

some will

[minor gust]

well yeah im just saying thats not the goal

[cerulean scroll]

i dont either and that was why i said it didn't need to be a strong mmo

[dim basalt]

But I'm wondering if LoR will die with the MMO

[cerulean scroll]

it needs to be a good "league" mmo

best case they build lor into their mmo

[dim basalt]

They have to

Tbh

[minor gust]

well see how things go right now we know nothing about it so just a waiting game.

They could fuck it up and make something forgettable or make the next wow who knows

[cerulean scroll]

they better make woyear strong in that game

all im asking

[dim basalt]

They're pretty confident tho

Really can't be that shit

[cerulean scroll]

they are riot so they got the stacks to make mistakes

[dim basalt]

They blew millions, if not billions on the MMO and just restart it lol

[cerulean scroll]

its not gonna be THAT bad

so mostlikely salvagable

[dim basalt]

Gameplay is always salvageable

World building not so much

[cerulean scroll]

tru

[dim basalt]

And game loop is tough

[minor gust]

I mean world building is already done

they have the league lore this is gonna be based on league

they arent coming up with some brand new IP here

[dim basalt]

That part of world building is done yeah

But they gotta find the right pace to explain it all in game

[rough sluice]

Cant wait to run it down mid in the league mmo

[minor gust]

they will be fine just let them cook who cares if they had to restart

good for them to realize whatever mistakes they felt like they were making and restarting before its to late

[dim basalt]

I'm also excited about Ghostcrawlers MMO

[dim basalt]

Tbh it was kinda foreseeable

When devs change multiple times during early development it is cursed

[spiral coral]

I’m still waiting on a StarCraft 2 rival/replacement

[dim basalt]

I hope they ever make a post about what went wrong

[minor gust]

well it was somewhat confirmed that sc3 is in the works

but its not being made by Blizz

they basically having a Korean Studio make it

[rare kite]

there's a few games that look really good. the problem is they are not well known, so the playerbase is gonna be tiny. both zerospace and immortal:gates of pyre look great

stormgate got a decent amount of attention but just never looked that good imo

[spiral coral]

Stormgate forgot what brought people to rts’s to begin with - a good ass story

Command and Conquer, Dune, Total War Warhammers, Warcraft, StarCraft

All incredible story telling and campaigns

[rare kite]

agreed. also the artstyle of stormgate looks off to me

[spiral coral]

Only thing that worry’s me is it’ll be just made for the last 5% of us still laddering. Not the 95% that wanna do story stuff with friends/yourself. There’s people who still play minigames inside of sc2 and mmos built inside of it. Hell there’s a dragonball z mmo that someone made and it’s so good lol.

[spiral coral]

Pretty bad lol

[minor gust]

well see I also reguarly still play sc2 custom games

im constantly playing Desert Strike

[rare kite]

i think they said that by far the most popular thing in sc2 is coop

[spiral coral]

Star Party and Zealot Hockey are so fun

Zealot Hockey should be picked up by 2k or somebody

How do sports games get worse and people still buy them?

Like how have they devolved?

I was playing Madden 2006 and it has more features than any new Madden lmao and the story telling is like, good? Lol

[slow saddle]

Red alert!

[nova marsh]

it's the same as me asking as to how people still buy cod

[slow saddle]

Man the videos

Kane

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/military-gif-gif-18801755

MW/MW2 were so goated

[robust cypress]

mechwarrior

[nova marsh]

wouldn't really know I'm not a huge shooter person

[robust cypress]

[nova marsh]

I'm an mmo addict instead LMAO

[spiral coral]

I always get some type of pvp itch

But I hate mmo pvp

[nova marsh]

I mean MMO pvp is literally just trash

But pvp just ain't my thing I never stick to them for long

[spiral coral]

I play Fortnite with the family

[spiral coral]

New world PvP was the only one I liked, but, that’s because our clan took over the server day one of launch and never let it go lmao. Was fun watching that game die in like a month.

Looking at the player graph of that game is still insane

[nova marsh]

It shocks me that game is still running

[spiral coral]

I don’t think there has been and ever will be a spike and drop like that again

[frosty pike]

The original design of new world was a lot better. Foundationally it was developed entirely around sandbox PvP. Somewhere between Rust and Mortal. It worked really well in the playtests and then one year before launch they shifted gears to trying to be PvE focused and released a half baked idea of both

[serene thicket]

For stacking collateral damage pre mythic, can I use barrel of fireworks on any mythic? Will it put the key holder in combat or can they start it regardless of how close the barrel is to key stone

[frank thistle]

Do you always try to line up roar and ravager in a m+ setting?

[sage badge]

You don't have to. Can send roar on cd, basically. Ravager would be nice to line up with warbreaker.

[ancient scroll]

usually i try to place them down away from the other players so they dont accidentally hit it or something

if you are shadowmelding to drop combat make sure you walk out of melee range of the dummies before melding

[untold matrix]

damn

[keen plaza]

New to arms, is it really that important to apply bleed from rend?

rend does 660ish after the dot has run its course for me

overpower does 680k in the same gcd

[tacit crystal]

yes

[lofty crow]

is there a reliable way to chase with charge on mugzee intermission or its just cursed

[nova marsh]

It's literally free damage

[fathom shoal]

wait for him to stop

[lofty crow]

oo ok

thanks

[keen plaza]

I mean if a gcd costs 20 rage; and does whatever like 200k flat, 480k over 18 seconds; that's just 1 gcd 680k, or overpower generates rage, and does 680k upfront

[shadow ibex]

rend ignores armor

ticks multiple times that can crit separately

also dynamic with dmg debuff that will be on target like cs which has like a 50% uptime cuz of am

[spring ruin]

Other than TOP are we modifying damage profiles at all for smaller pull?

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/we-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-14928204287258878513

[vast drum]

how much dps does a single PI add? I had a rogue priest fucking PI me when I'm loyal to my one priest and it's happened so much it lk PMO

[nova marsh]

Man premade finder is really unhinged tn

[teal fossil]

depends on when

It could be minimal when outside cd windows

Or a lot when all cds align

[vast drum]

At the very beginning instantly after the first one wore off

So not amazing but probably had at least some cd overlap

Feels weird to have this issue tbh. Last season I was dying of thirst now I'm drowning

[strange perch]

would i hold the maghar racial for avatar, or just send it with colossus smash?

[shadow ibex]

Could just macro it to cs

Not ideal but 2min experience and it's nothing to maximize really. Random stat anyway

When I was mag I had it macro to cs

[frank thistle]

So your basically sending what ever you have up at the time with your war breaker?

[lavish jewel]

Hey mates, can you tell me what options should I select on raidbot(such as fight style) to have the best opinion for my top gear. I guess it's patchwerk for one boss. But I was also wondering for boss with some add (like Stix) or m+ contents.

[pallid olive]

is hero track ilvl 671 jastor diamond not worth taking with dinars? somehow it sims worse then cyrces circlet

[sacred zodiac]

can you link that sim

[thick kelp]

50€ on no gems no enchant

[pallid olive]

fuck me forgott to add sockets xF but still only 12k more dps

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8HHFgjLeEeozK3WdJiNWCe

[sacred zodiac]

Der Jastordiamant

[sacred zodiac]

alternate question what else are you gonna take

[eager sigil]

do not check what best in slots is called

[sacred zodiac]

probably pacemaker for m+ or short fights and then what

i looked up capital punisher in german a few days ago

[pallid olive]

yes

[sacred zodiac]

i was really really hoping it was gonna be kapitalschläger

Spieloplatt goes hard lmao

[pallid olive]

haha yeah

im also kinda lost that my sims with assendance embelishment are so bad but i see so many arms warris with this embelishment comb so it feels kinda wrong to not play it

[sacred zodiac]

myth 2h + double thread should just be better

[pallid olive]

kk ty

[glass sphinx]

anyone having problem with sweeping canceling in dungeons ?

[candid pecan]

press sweep > tank pulls boss (any boss) > sweep gets cancelled > be angry at blizzard

nice bug

[glass sphinx]

was it a big deal before this season ? prepull sweeping, kinda new to arms been playing fury previous season/exp

[slow saddle]

Arms having sweep on before is to good

[fallen folio]

Can u suggest some usefull macros to arms? Im new with warr

[chilly coyote]

does it cancel in raid aswell?

I havent really paid attention

[true ravine]

This might sound like a silly question, but is two targets considered multitarget for the purposes of the multitarget rotations?

[dim basalt]

no

2T is basically ST

[true ravine]

Excellent, that's what I figured

[calm hollow]

Yes

[chilly coyote]

yikes, been pre sweeping on pull every oab

[spiral coral]

You can see in the log it dropping off/stopping at pull

[old urchin]

I always make sure I’m max charge distance and press it while in transit on pull.

[light island]

Does the slam from the fervor of battle talent proc a collateral damage stack?

Been confused as to whether to try and cleave less during sweeping in m+

[gaunt owl]

yes it do

[light island]

Okay hype I was worried I had to just go full ST when sweep was up

[stable fiber]

I havent noticed this at all in dungeons until the .5 patch lol, then it started happening, it also started happening in raid too

[grand idol]

The only thing I have experienced is that if you avatar, with blademasters, then sweep it cancels the short procced sweep and replaces it with the actual spell but if you do it the other way, sweep into avatar, it stacks for a combined duration.

[teal fossil]

Cleave>slam on 2t is the only diff

If cleave talented

[true ravine]

ty

that is very good ot know

[calm hollow]

No mount again

[sharp wyvern]

only grey parsers get mounts

theres your problem

[keen plaza]

13 workshop, new to arms; are my %'s to abilities totally disgusting; I.E. does it look like I'm pressing something way more/less than I should be

[tacit crystal]

you are either missing/cancelling all of your demolishes or not pressing at 10 stacks of cm in aoe

[teal fossil]

Rend should be about the same % as wounds right

[calm hollow]

true

fun fact: actually 1 grey and a green parser got mounts

[minor gust]

THIS IS THE WAY

[hollow plover]

your demolish is hella low, tf? You're either not pressing your demolish enough (it's a reeeaaallly low cooldown, click it more) or you're not knowledgeable of the shortcomings of demolish, causing you to miss enemies when clicking it

(or what Gio said)

[keen plaza]

I think in my floodgate just now I missed more demolishes than I hit

Kept firing it at bosses jumping away

[slow saddle]

My breakdown in a 13 rookery

[minor gust]

comparing breakdowns aint gonna really help every dungeon is gonna be different

[slow saddle]

Was just showin where my.demo was vs his

[minor gust]

only way you can help someone is by direct vod review of a key

[slow saddle]

True true

[minor gust]

asking hey is my breakdown right wont get you anywhere sadly

[keen plaza]

I mean it nudged me towards demolish is being fired totally wrong, that's some progress

[slow saddle]

That was my point😅

[minor gust]

yeah but we cant know if your fucking up your demolish unless we watch you play

there could be 5 other different reasons why your demolish dmg is lower on a breakdown

[unkempt wren]

Like when the tank picks that precise moment to move all the mobs 3 demos in a row... lol

[minor gust]

I recommend if you want to try and improve yourself in keys to record your gameplay and review it after and compare it to other giga warriors like Crit or Biz who frequently stream

[unkempt wren]

Low Demo damage really does read like the classic 'sitting on cooldowns' too long

[slow saddle]

I always blame myself tbh

Erratic tanks be erratic🤣

[unkempt wren]

Normally, same. Last night doing a PSF for some crests, I swear that tank had ADD+Demo Spideysense and a good dose of malice in his heart

[slow saddle]

Dh?

Tbh pro tip stand always towards wheee tanks gonna go

[unkempt wren]

Yuup. How'd u guess!? XD

The run right before was great though. BearDru with balls of steel for his ilv and practically pulling the world lol

[slow saddle]

Dhs love to leap around and get one shot

[uncut grove]

Hey Guys, i have a question, how do we get out of the Jail at Mug'Zee mythic?

[calm hollow]

Void elf racial, or you leap before wall

[minor gust]

you can but you shouldnt

just be a good boy and sit in jail

its not a big deal

[uncut grove]

thanks

[unreal fog]

guys if I buy an hc item with the dinars for example the bis when I kill the bandit in myth diff will it automatically be able to get upgraded?

[minor gust]

unfortunatly not

if you bought a heroic version with dinar then killed myth OAB you would have to buy the myth version

its really dumb so just hold your dinars

[unreal fog]

yisus what a won't say the c word design then

[tacit crystal]

i wish a girl put me in jail and called me a good boy

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-bonk-chew-mega-bonk-hitting-gif-26060616

[nova marsh]

Stop the cap

[tacit crystal]

when have i ever lied

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/judge-judy-plotting-sneaky-judy-sheindlin-gif-15236549

[nova marsh]

You play wow

Wow players ain't that weird....wait

....nevermind

LMAo

[spiral coral]

Ff14 takes the weird cake

[nova marsh]

ngl chief I dunno about that one

[spiral coral]

Wow are degens

[nova marsh]

....14 players are worse degens

[spiral coral]

Idk I mean true degens imo are osrs players

[calm hollow]

@dull siren neck where?

[nova marsh]

how much do those people min max

[spiral coral]

Sitting at the same tree spot for 30+ hours

Or doing the same agility course

For six months

[tacit crystal]

@dull siren have i ever lied

[spiral coral]

Depends on what you’re doing

I’m a quester. I did all the quests, I beat the game. Nothing more for me to do idk how ppl skill to 99 doing the same shit

[bronze oxide]

Dungeon slice work well to sim for arms?

[tacit crystal]

not really

what are you trying to sim

[bronze oxide]

which is better for m+ jastors hc, or upgrading my house of cards from champ to hc

[wintry arch]

Yo what’s that necklace. Craft one?

[calm hollow]

Rik neck

[tacit crystal]

how do you sim for m+

just wear ilvl right

[calm hollow]

Dropped only 1 since week 1

[tacit crystal]

oh nah

[spiral coral]

Prooooobably upgrading HoC and then crafting a ring? Just a thought idk what your gear is but you can put it all in the top gear sim

[calm hollow]

i used a champ warbound Rik neck, and picked hc rik neck from vault 2 weeks ago

[bronze oxide]

yeah I just did 2 seperate sims, st and aoe, seems jastors is better in both slightly

[spiral coral]

Jastors it is

[tacit crystal]

its mainly due to the jump from one track of a trinket is not that big of a gain

[spiral coral]

I thought it would be pretty considerable from champ to hc

Didn’t think it would be from hc to myth but idk how scaling or that math works

Trust robot

[tacit crystal]

assuming the normal is maxed out its +4 upgrades from normal to hc right?

[bronze oxide]

658 - 671

[quaint otter]

13

[dull siren]

yes

[dull siren]

real

[tacit crystal]

when

[nova marsh]

Guys

tell me pugging is worth

Tell me pugging is fun

[outer holly]

Lie to me softly

[nova marsh]

I need some way to cope

the amount of bricks I have could build a full fortress

[outer holly]

You know that one group in a dozen that did everything perfectly? That's your dopamine feed

Can't feel the highs without the lows

[nova marsh]

I'm coping so hard

half these bricks are just my fault lol

[rigid ravine]

Pugging is fine if you established yourself earlier on in the season but the way I can really word it is if you're trying to time all 13s the people who are on that at this point in the season you're Def not gonna get the cream of the crop

But if bricks are your fault then it's just finding out why and how you fucked and fixing it so you're not the reason next time

[nova marsh]

Probally because I'm just pissed off

Like when people just do random routes and explain nothing. They just say "hey I'm doing invis pot skip" in flood

[minor gust]

pugging is a cancer I rather not play at all If I dont have people to play with

[tacit crystal]

bozo how big are you

[minor gust]

almost 3400

[tacit crystal]

i got 3300 ln

holy

[nova marsh]

They skip the courtyard before big mom. After we kill mom we go and clear the courtyard out....ya know

[minor gust]

we would be higher if we did more than 3 key attempts a night but were chillin till horrific visions come out

[rigid ravine]

I'm like 3440 rn and it's been chill for me personally. A lot of my 17s have just been tanks dying tbh

Brick wise

[minor gust]

once visions come out we go ham

we get title this season easy

[tacit crystal]

idk if visions are the diff

but

title is looking like half 18s and 17s

rn

[sacred zodiac]

I Managed to push 3 score today

[tacit crystal]

w

[sacred zodiac]

First time in a month, we cooked

[tacit crystal]

i got like 35? yesterday

[nova marsh]

Guys how do make friends

[tacit crystal]

add good players after key

ask

hey wanna key

spam then

mo

[minor gust]

its not that visions are a crazy upg or anything just the date we deicided to take things seriously

[tacit crystal]

ah

[minor gust]

up until then we just vibing and learning

not really trying to push or anything

theres no need to rush or anything for title

[tacit crystal]

if you need a dps spot

[minor gust]

unfort it was the healer spot

that we been struggling to fill

think we finally found someone tho

wish we had someone else to Brez tho so I didnt have to play ret

I kinda wanna push as slayer

[rough sluice]

just use the brez item

[minor gust]

if it didnt require a cast and you being ontop the body and have a chance for it to fail sure

[spiral coral]

Join social discords

Casual Friday, Wow made easy, drunk n disorderly to name a few. Sorry if this is against rules from being outside of promotion.

[outer holly]

just be really good at the game and people will invite you to things

[spiral coral]

Being social and trying to add tanks/healers is super helpful

[nova marsh]

I should've never taken that 2 week break lmao

[untold matrix]

Just play a class with a brez or hero and forget about making friends

[nova marsh]

I main enhance

One step ahead of ya

[manic river]

Hey guys I was wondering have you been noticing some slight increase on single target on M+ this season?

Or pretty much as low as the one before

[warm fog]

Ankh is just feign death on a long cooldown

[twin hazel]

Whats the bestr buy for the 3 chips arms warrior?

nobody?

[reef glade]

i mean like bis house of cards and jastor probably

just raid stuff

all myth track tho only jastor would be "reasonable" to buy on heroic if u think youre never doing mythic

maybe an m+ item or 2 is worth prolly only like pacemaker

[twin hazel]

Thank you!

[hollow wave]

I tested some m+ with fury, didn't know that fury was so much tankier than arms

[olive nest]

That moment heroic funhouse sims better than heroic card

[nova marsh]

And you add to the death timer with it!

[waxen root]

Same with holy priest angel form

[manic pasture]

I have not played in like a month, what should be my sim?

Patchwork 5 targets right for aoe?

[swift crown]

KEYPUSHER??????

[tacit crystal]

io check

look at this comp

[swift crown]

I'm not a dirty keypusher

2 more keys and a bit of raiding

[tacit crystal]

w

i got +16 today

dunno how we timed a 16 workshop with that demonic comp

holy priest didnt feel that bad

[swift crown]

just do it

[tacit crystal]

other than not having a shield

but the healing was fine otherwise

[nova marsh]

If you need a shield just go prot

[manic pasture]

Warning: Unknown option 'override.power_infusion' with value '0', ignoring
To fix issues with the target exploding <20% range due to execute, fixed_time=1 has been enabled. This gives similar results
to execute's usage in a raid sim, without taking an eternity to simulate. To disable this option, add warrior_fixed_time=0 to your sim.

Should I disable that?

[nova marsh]

Probally?

[teal fossil]

any reason why you aren’t just doing default settings

[manic pasture]

simming dungeon route was told it was better

[manic pasture]

Do you have a better way of simming aoe?

[teal fossil]

If you aren’t a believer of dungeon slice you shouldn’t use dungeon route either

Slice gets you 90-95% of the way there for 20% of computation time

[nova marsh]

Ngl guys

I don't know how I don't get more toxicity when I fail to have functioning brain cells

[minor gust]

theres no perfect way to sim for M+ just pick your poison of Patchwork or Dslice

its not a big deal

[stoic abyss]

Hello guys, I´m starting to play some Arms, is the any Hardcaps for Armswarri ?

[minor gust]

no

[stoic abyss]

ok ty

[nova marsh]

hardcaps aren't really a thing in modern wow

unless sims say so

[stoic abyss]

hmm i dont know how the sims realy work ^^

[dim basalt]

Theres plenty of stuff about it on youtube

[sturdy compass]

vibe over sims

remember

[astral yarrow]

Sims will simulate your character in (normally) 5min fights (+-20% fight time) fully raid buffed and give you the most common dps number it came to over whatever amount of iterations you set it to run. Normally thats 10k i think, but theres some smart mathemagic feature where it decides whether its worth it to run more or less iterations

If you meant HOW to sim, Naguura has a video on it i think thats somewhat recent

[shy tide]

only hardcap that exists is 100% haste for gcdcap 🤓

[quaint otter]

100 crit too

Cant crit more often

[minor gust]

dont mind me just critting 110% of the time

[tacit crystal]

hi

+15 io

[quaint otter]

👏

Me when 17 gives +11

[tacit crystal]

i did 1 16

nvm

it was 12.8

lol

[dim basalt]

Double crits in wow when

[minor gust]

me when we brick our 18 floodgate by 20 sec

[dim basalt]

18 damn

[minor gust]

we yolo sent that key too and crushed it woulda been a sick time. Then had to get a diff healer for the 17 who trolled it

good times

[tacit crystal]

how many deaths did the 18 have

[minor gust]

5

[tacit crystal]

-3 minutes

gg cds

[dim basalt]

What route did you do

Lust 1st boss or lust 1st pull into 2nd boss

[tacit crystal]

• walkbaxk +

l

[minor gust]

1st pull lust into duo boss

[tacit crystal]

i think 2nd is better

that route is so nice

[dim basalt]

yeee

[minor gust]

our route is good we just needed to play clean

[dim basalt]

Havent tried it myself, just seen it

But looks super comfy

[tacit crystal]

where did you die

[minor gust]

wasnt a wipe

was just sparatic one off deaths

to silly shit

[tacit crystal]

unfort

[minor gust]

is what it is shit happens

[tacit crystal]

idk how im hoing to time a cinderbrew

no one lists that key

[minor gust]

we getting ready to grind for title here soon

[tacit crystal]

legit more worth to time 16s than wait to find a 15 cinder

[minor gust]

its not an easy key

especially in a full pug

[dim basalt]

Cinder is painful

Personally I dont think its hard but dunno

Many struggle

[tacit crystal]

annoying when i wont have resil 15

[dim basalt]

Its the only key I lack for resil 15

[tacit crystal]

and i have 16 thrn have to do a 14

[manic bear]

what are the best buy using puzzling chip?

[tacit crystal]

#updates-midnight message

[void bay]

They are chocolate flavored

Oh i read "about" not "buy"

[calm furnace]

hi,
quick question,
we started prog mugzee yesterday,
Can we use charge on intermission?
I tried few times and almost died, it seems like charge moves the character too close to boss and we are getting hits from mugzee's bladestorm

[dim basalt]

I believe it only happens when you charge too early or something

[minor gust]

wait for the boss to finish moving then charge

[calm furnace]

I see

[quaint otter]

I dunno did every 16 in few tries

6/8 before turbo

[tacit crystal]

so far everything 1-3 shot

cinderbrew only thin

g

[quaint otter]

Therefore skill issue

[tacit crystal]

i think ive tried it like 4? times

[naive sage]

Try finger but hole

[tacit crystal]

i think ive tried it like 4? times

[urban iron]

How much overall should I be pulling as arms? I rarely dps keys as warrior, usually tank, but feel like I struggle to break 4.3-4.5m

I’m 678 so it’s definitely a play issue

[dim basalt]

Completely depends on the key and tank

[urban iron]

Tanks are decent, not pulling anything too small, priory 13 I did 4.3m overall and that felt like the top of what I could squeeze

[dim basalt]

Its not really about pulling big or small but also when they do that kind of stuff

If they always pull big when it doesnt line with your cds its bad

4.3 overall in priory is fine

[tacit crystal]

also getting raid buffs

[urban iron]

I guess Skyfury is prob big for arms

Pretty huge for me as prot

[tacit crystal]

yeah

[sick leaf]

lol I think anything over 4mm is perfectly fine. My biggest struggle is boss fights without adds. I do like 1.5m on average. And it just destroys my overall

[tacit crystal]

huh

[urban iron]

Boss fights I’m usually fine, close to 2m

Or over 2m

[sick leaf]

Idk what I do wrong

[urban iron]

Arms doesn’t feel like it struggles on st at all

[sick leaf]

Guessing it’s lack of slam

[tacit crystal]

im dojng like +2.5

[sick leaf]

How tf

[dim basalt]

I do like 2.5M+ as well

[urban iron]

Just looked at our run from last night in priory I did 3.3m/2.1m/2.5m

[sick leaf]

Ok so I’m clearly doing something very wrong lol

[urban iron]

On bosses

[tacit crystal]

im also like 680

in full mythic

[sick leaf]

So am I

…

[tacit crystal]

uh

[sick leaf]

Fuck.

[tacit crystal]

are you pressing things on cd

[sick leaf]

Yes- what’s the strat during execute?

[urban iron]

I’m not an arms master by any means but the only way you’re losing a mil dps is by either losing uptime out of range or not getting ms off

[tacit crystal]

depends on if you playing ep

either way

[sick leaf]

I’m not

I’m don’t play ep

[astral yarrow]

execute is a glorified slam

[dim basalt]

Does it tho? Even with EP you dont play around execute

[tacit crystal]

you need to be pressing ms on cd

[tacit crystal]

more chance to proc tact in 1 gloval

[sick leaf]

I’ll go beat on a dummy- clearly messing something up

[urban iron]

Even with ep I will press ms with 1 stack if im gonna overcap rage

That seems to work fine for me

[sick leaf]

Also, I’m supposed to send demo on cd and not wait for 10 right?

[tacit crystal]

on pull only

[sick leaf]

Man, I figured arms just sucks in ST

[tacit crystal]

uh

[urban iron]

Arms is one of the best st specs

[tacit crystal]

i have an exercise for you

[sick leaf]

Mannnnn

[tacit crystal]

go to a critcake vod

go to a boss in a key

predict his globals

pause each global

guess his next

if wrong think about it and try again

[sick leaf]

Wait, does it matter that I’m completely geared for fury? Like is that more impactful on single target vs aoe?

My crit is like 15%

[tacit crystal]

i mean slightly

but not enough to be at 1.5

[sick leaf]

Wasn’t sure if that impacts proc

Ok

[tacit crystal]

no

[sick leaf]

Well… now I know what work I have to do

I’m like 2 weeks into arms, always been a fury player. Thought I was crushing it cause I usually finish in first or second. Would be way ahead if ST didn’t hold me back so bad

[tacit crystal]

dont feel discouraged

🙂

[sick leaf]

lol when I said 1.5 I was being generous… I’m often below that

🤦🏼‍♂️

[dull siren]

@boreal quartz

Kidpuncher is returning

[rare kite]

in keys i wouldn't say that, we're aight tho

[tacit crystal]

hi tmy

[dull siren]

hi

[tacit crystal]

tmy

gm

[dull siren]

not gm

[tacit crystal]

+6

5pm moment

68 more minutes of lecture

[naive breach]

get ready for legion remix

[fresh spire]

[tacit crystal]

gm fishy

18 minutes

[fresh spire]

🥚

[spiral coral]

I’m going to do this when I get home lol going to do it on noxiv playing fury too. This is a good idea lol

Might do it as a drinking game for myself

[tacit crystal]

https://youtu.be/oe3wWVsFgNk?si=X8QGrbEpJZ8C0YNd

look at hopeful approaches mage

do it to warrior

become big

[manic river]

Have you been noticing any slight improvement in m+ single target damage this season, or is a bad as the one before?

[tacit crystal]

what does that mean

[serene hollow]

it performs better, still does not feel better

[manic river]

Meaning, in the earlier season colo st was pretty shit so I was asking if you are noticing in this season is a little bit better overall or not

[manic river]

I get you

Also are most of you dropping EP even in m+?

[tacit crystal]

earlier in the season colo st was not bad?

[manic river]

No no, season 1, the one before this

[tacit crystal]

it wasnt bad then either?

[manic river]

I mean, I think most people here thought our st in m+ was shitty

[tacit crystal]

who is most people

[manic river]

Of the people posting here, sharing opinions etc

[tacit crystal]

i never saw that opinion

[manic river]

Well let's wait to see more poeple posting

[serene hollow]

well mortal strike got buffed by 66% and the single target is now okay in m+, so there was probably room for improvement last season

[manic river]

Right now I'm triying to push 11s with my arms warr, I'm doing overalls of 2.5, sometimes I get better and get to 2.7 - 2.8 but in general more of the former. Is that a decent number being at 664 or so?

I know I need more haste and optimize more stuff but I want to see some opinions

[tacit crystal]

dps done in a key has too many variables

it seems fine

but hard to know unless vod etc

[manic river]

Yeah i get it

[tacit crystal]

you could be horribly doing things wrong and that number says nothing

[plush smelt]

As for gear and stat optimization, i just leave it to sim. As for rotation, watch critcake videos and see what he does in high keys. Push your key levels up, focus on your fundamentals and thats really it. If yiu want someone here to give you specific advice youll need to record a key and ask someone to review it for you.

Thats really it at least to me, good practice makes for a better player. I trh to not leave keys when theyre bricked cause i wanna put in my reps on the bosses and pulls

[boreal quartz]

Oki

[prime bramble]

Weird question, but did the ilvl jump help us more than other classes in m+?

The power jump has felt significant

[tacit crystal]

no?

ig sure wdps is good

but everyone also got ilvl

[manic river]

And as I was asking earlier, are most of you warrs dropping EP even for the colo m+ build?

Going mostly MS?

[tacit crystal]

yeah ep for bb

[fresh spire]

Execute weak in colossus keys

[manic river]

so when in exe range what do you do in the rotation?

[sacred zodiac]

ms > op > execute

[plush smelt]

Normal rota swap slam for exe when exe doesnt eat up so much rage yhat you cant MS on cd

[bright scarab]

Theoretically, will Arms do less overall damage in lower keys due to smaller and/or inconsistent pulls making the synchronization of pulls and CDs not aligning?

[plush smelt]

Theres a lot of conditions in play but generally dps is lower in lower keys if tank doesnt wanna pull big

You can overall really high in a 12 if the tank just pulls everything cause they’ll live and the dps is good

But its all relative to whats possible for the tank, healer, you, and thr other dps

[peak ingot]

Idk if this is real or just lag but does execute "feel" slower to anyone else?

Compared to other gcds

[rain raptor]

If you dont raid and just do M+ whats the first dinar buy? Pacemaker?

[sacred zodiac]

pacemaker or jastor ye

not much more than that you can buy

[urban iron]

The skill animation and skill sound are cadenced slowly so it can “feel” slow

It isn’t

[spiral coral]

Sure but this effects everyone, Arms generally likes stuff living longer but it’s not a giant hindrance for Arms as it is for something like Fire Mage where your combustion timings get fucked. Low keys aren’t bad for warriors though in general.

[peak ingot]

Got it, for some reason that kinda throws me off a bit when in the zone

[fallow kite]

what best upgrade? jastor or house of cards?

[old urchin]

Trust the sims bro

[halcyon valve]

Go by vibe

[old urchin]

I’ve noticed it. My boss damage still isn’t what I’d like but I’ve been much happier with it. Especially since the turbo boost.

[slow saddle]

Vibe said jastor

[obtuse totem]

any good cd tracker weakaura recommendations?

Luxthos seems to be buggy with ravager being off CD a few seconds after the WA shows it, Quazii doesnt show colossal might or martial prowess stacks

[halcyon breach]

Is the affix this week voidbound, and are you doing lower than +12 keys

[obtuse totem]

Makes sense, Ive been farming crests on 10s

[halcyon breach]

If yes, then that's the issue why Ravager seems to be ready on your WA before it actually is, because it's just a weird janky issue with the CDR from the affix not properly translating for weakaura's

[obtuse totem]

Good to know it aint the WA then, shame about Quazii's, it looks more compact

Is adding something like MP stacks display easy?

[halcyon breach]

If you prefer Quazii, you can just copy any WA in his pack that tracks a buff that has stacks, then make it track either colossal might or martial

And yes it's quite easy as well to do

[obtuse totem]

It tracks Winning Streak for example, could I go off of that?

[halcyon breach]

Copy a WA that tracks a buff + stacks already, go into trigger, change the spellID/name to colossal might/martial prowess' spellID/name

[wary dune]

If you have a free twitch prime or want to sub Naowh's WA package for warrior is really good, and the developer is responsive with suggestions if necessary, hes even added the MfE Execute condition weak aura into the package.

[eager sigil]

just check the load conditions so it doesnt randomly stop working once you uneequip your set

[obtuse totem]

I dont think I want to essentially pay for a weakaura

[eager sigil]

theres plenty of free ones

no need to pay

if you are in the warbreaker discord tmy shared his pack

[obtuse totem]

Yeah I know, I am trying to add MP and Colossal Might to Quazii's

Because I like Quazii's visually

[nova marsh]

Guys

Why do tanks try and solo bosses after people leave the key lmao

[sand summit]

Guys 😄 How do we Leap out of Mugzee cages?

[halcyon breach]

You do it by not leaping out and just letting them resolve

The timing is way too tight and unreliable to do it

[eager sigil]

theres no need to in progress tbh

[peak ingot]

Should I go for Crit or Movespeed blasphemite gem? crit seems very minor and warriors are SLOW

[halcyon breach]

Just go for the movespeed gem

[eager sigil]

your choice

[nova marsh]

Movespeed but tbh minmaxing the gem isn't really worth

It's not noticable

[peak ingot]

I assumed as much, same story for enhance.

[halcyon breach]

You will never notice the crit gem, and the actual increase of it on paper is incredibly minimal

The movespeed instead can effectively be the diff between you perishing or living

[peak ingot]

I'm bad at walking out of stuff so yeah thought so

[nova marsh]

I mean tbh enhance's mobility is fine

Press ghost wolf to run away

[peak ingot]

I mean the minmaxing gem thing it's whatever just do good gems and it's fine

[nova marsh]

O yeah

[peak ingot]

I miss dog shape a lot when moving out of AoEs.

[nova marsh]

I've kinda just gotten it to muscle memory at this point

Love my fox

[peak ingot]

Yeah, having to HL out of fire can mess me up

Speaking of that, does anyone have a good macro for Leap @ mouse?

[halcyon breach]

#showtooltip
/use [@cursor] Heroic Leap

[peak ingot]

Is that on key press or letting go? I forgot what that's called

[sand summit]

Thanks mate. Had that same feeling... So i just came here to doubble check, if there was any idiot prrooof method.

[halcyon breach]

It's as you press it

[peak ingot]

tyvm ❤️

[sand summit]

Ty

[quasi torrent]

this assumes u have keydown enabled, which is default setting in this year

[halcyon breach]

Gonna be honest chief I wasn't even aware of it being an option

[quasi torrent]

🛑

[halcyon breach]

hexagon sign

[quasi torrent]

its an octagonal sign

[peak ingot]

I played a LOT of LoL so the key pressing vs letting go is weird af

[halcyon breach]

I know

I just wrote hexagon sign

[quasi torrent]

u are cursed with beans on toast as dinner for 1 week

[halcyon breach]

You could've almost not said anything more rude

[peak ingot]

🇬🇧 🤮

[gaunt owl]

raw beans

[nova marsh]

Let's add in cold toast

[lean geode]

Standard British diet

[void bay]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_sandwich

[unreal halo]

boys quick question, strenght food or secondary food?

[slow saddle]

What ever sims more

But in gen raid is str no?

[unreal halo]

idk man, i used the stat weight and haste gives me more dps than str so thats why i am asking

[slow saddle]

Ye so sim it properly

Not stat weight

[unreal halo]

and it gives more secondary than str

i should

[slow saddle]

But in gen i take free feast

😅

And in dungeon the secondary 1

Randomly though

😅

[unreal halo]

im simming both in st

[obtuse copper]

Refried beans?

[unreal halo]

okay so secondary stat food gives an astonishing 4k dps increase

[spiral coral]

Until you die

[spiral coral]

I put out feasts in dungeons cause I’m rich

[slow saddle]

I die in dungeons

[spiral coral]

The “ty for foods” make me feel like I’m actually contributing

[slow saddle]

Better be hearty

[slow saddle]

Du u play fury?

[spiral coral]

I play both but pushing as fury

Hard life

[slow saddle]

Then u better bring feast

[spiral coral]

Exactly

[slow saddle]

Pushin as fury

[spiral coral]

Yee

Always pushed as Arms

Good switch up

Can go to Arms whenever, but I just like fury more atm

[slow saddle]

U just wanna live in pain

[halcyon breach]

lets stop here before it becomes too graphic

[slow saddle]

Tbh slayer arms is to me more fun than demo in keys

[spiral coral]

No, it feels better and is funner to me, and that’s all that matters because as long as I don’t die imo I’m not hindering anyone being a fury

[slow saddle]

Coz its more simple

Fury never dies

U can easily get title as fury y

Just harder to carry shit grps

[spiral coral]

You can easily get title as any spec with the right attitude and willingness to become an expert at a dungeon

[spiral coral]

I need an Aug buddy

[slow saddle]

Well and play with other meta specs

🤣

Kek that sounds like a baaad combo

Aug-survival huntee - druid tank + shaman healer?

[spiral coral]

Idc the group, augs make fury’s damage go insane

[spiral coral]

I alt Arcane/Fire mage mainly

[slow saddle]

O i meant in grp

[spiral coral]

Broken ass specs with so much utility and movement and niche things

[slow saddle]

I play dk