arms

[swift crown]

Banezia Taekon

[halcyon breach]

Dats me

[fresh spire]

Don't really know becuase bs can proc reap. Bs also does some solid damage.

[gray herald]

same

[pearl jasper]

Is jastor diamond bis for M+ too?

[gray herald]

ye

[pearl jasper]

Ty

[slow saddle]

Ah u bladestorm on pull to add stacks

Then send cds and dmg

[visual fern]

Wait whats this lore

[swift crown]

Huh

The Gilded achievement works differently from before

it's now an unlock of a warband wide discount system

If your alt has 684 chest your main gets discount to 684 on chest

for example

Only one of the characters on your account needs the achievement

not the character with the highest ilvl in the slot

so upgrading on alts first means your main has to spend less crests, ideally if you want multiple characters upgraded you distribute load probably, so you dont need to get 480 crests on one character

(Getting multiple characters to max requires the same amount of crests no matter what unless you troll on Rings/Trinkets/Onehanders)

[quasi torrent]

schmidi thesis

[olive nest]

nice WA!

[silk spade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1334106520711073803/8lGFp.gif

[tacit crystal]

:3

[swift crown]

Thanks brewjj

[gilded basin]

what dinar item should i get? i have house of cards and kezan on heroic and a 675 crafted weapon

[spark mango]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jpFHnBGD1W5WZUobgyecAx guys so best in slot is not dps gain for me apparently

for colossus m+ st

[dawn rose]

then try to sim it at 684

[spark mango]

oh fuck yeah

22k increase, hmm

14k pacemaker

[quasi torrent]

a,b = funnyhighwatermarkfunc69()

[swift crown]

69

[fresh spire]

a,b = funnyhighwatermarkfunc69()

[quasi torrent]

those who know.

[tacit crystal]

7

[sage bison]

is it normal house of cards being a few seconds off avatar cd?

[gray herald]

in keys below 12?

[sage bison]

is that what im getting CDR from? xala affix?

[gray herald]

yep

doesnt cdr trinketS :)

[sage bison]

thank fuck, just ran a 10 to test it

[gray herald]

cringest affix

[sage bison]

100%

bring back prideful affix from SL season 1

[halcyon breach]

Or don't

That affix was awful

[fresh spire]

Remove all affix. Doesn't do shit anyway. Illusion of change

[gray herald]

do 12s only

[icy mulch]

Did you some how switch it to Int or Agility?

[visual fern]

Messed up prideful? Key is bricked

[icy mulch]

Prideful was awful. It forced a lot of stupid routes.

The MDI teams found it so useful they started skipping all of them.

[misty sandal]

The healing check was insane on high keys with that bs 😰

[teal fossil]

Prideful made it impossible to learn tank

[safe tundra]

[visual fern]

[arctic iris]

[icy mulch]

That being said, I still had a lot of fun in shadowlands M+.

The time we accidently drew a penis with the second boss's blood leaps in halls of atonement.

[arctic iris]

My guild unironically used the shaft and balls strat for Sark P2 breaths/circles

[icy mulch]

Lol

[arctic iris]

Pulled it from this reddit post and it worked well

[sly geode]

Has enough testing been done since the bladestorm buff now to know whether slayer bladestorm has closed the gap w demolish builds yet?

[open echo]

i got a mythic ring in my vault and by selection only it to sim with 2 equiped rings i got it gets Iterations: 445,000 / 300,000 (89 combinations). Does that mean even Raidbots is starting to be pay to sim???????? bra cmone

[visual fern]

@fresh spire was messing with it IIRC

For slay vs colo keys

[shadow ibex]

P sure slayer is still strictly worse but you have more than 1 m+ spec now

[visual fern]

Still worse but was saying smth about lessing swingy profile

Cuz you're not juggling 8 diff cds and collat

[tacit crystal]

but then you are playing warrior in keys

[magic mantle]

whats the proper set up to sim for m+?

[tacit crystal]

what does that mean

[magic mantle]

like I know dungeon slice is bait so 5 target 40 sec?

[tacit crystal]

something like that

[tall bolt]

is warrior dev alive

[icy mulch]

Slayer m+ is fine, I was doing some 14 and 15s with it. While slightly behind on massive AoE it was still able to compete vs Colossus. Especially on bosses.

[verbal marten]

I mean u expect them to provide this insane service for hundreds of thousands of players for free forever

[open echo]

atleast 1 item iteration xd

[boreal quartz]

Look at ur enchants n shit

If u have replace existing on

[void bay]

Who?

[verbal marten]

Look at enchants gems ect

Unselect the option to replace enchants and gems

[calm hollow]

i pass

[hollow wave]

Losing colossus might stacks because of boss RP grinds my gears

[slow saddle]

lossing CM stacks

coz theres nothing to hit

also grinds my gears

[verbal marten]

Drop toy

[hollow wave]

Or when the tank hesitates to pull when there are 3s of CM left

[hollow wave]

Sometimes I just charge and turn on the parry and pray

[olive nest]

how bad is it if i just macro BiS to CS

[slow saddle]

its fine

?

[teal fossil]

Prob fine

[olive nest]

[slow saddle]

its the smallest cd u have

like where else to put it?

[olive nest]

ez mode bis

[olive nest]

bro idk how the hell youre at 2.96m

insane

2.82 here at 675

[boreal quartz]

Horrid

Since it will overlap with trinket at 6 mins

And if u press ur macro it's awful

[olive nest]

i have trinket on ava

and i always ava first

so ill be good

good lookin out tho!

[rigid sun]

do y'all ever swap out circlet now?

[tacit crystal]

when something else sims higher for you

[calm hollow]

just check out my screenshot above

quickest answer you will ever get

[old urchin]

Crafted ring is simming higher for me now. The extra ilvls pushed it over the edge. It’s not a huge difference like 7k ST but that extra stam is juicy.

[rigid sun]

I am getting similar but with jaster diamond and the cauldron of carnage ring

[weak wave]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9epyRGTE8Q7ALxJS7M4xhv
Why isnt a 671 Jastor an upgrade over an 665 ring?

[old urchin]

Yeah running H Jastor and crit haste crafted ring now.

[sharp wyvern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8PvaavYLpYxucD744GDgRz

can someone explkain why hero track gear isnt counted when i check the box with equall ilvl ?

all hero track gear shows as 0/6

[rigid sun]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1f2Qn3jEjWurqMBJFg3SgX

this was what I meant

[weak wave]

Is raidbots bugged?

Switching to two 684 rings reduces dps by over 100k

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/okiBtAfHApn36wfi7JyVXF

[tough tangle]

Add sockets to those rings

They don’t have gems

[thick kelp]

no sockets

[lost rose]

Hey guys anyone having a bug with raidbots simming crafted gear as 687 sometimes?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v5Lz3bQir1gtfgZpQXYxzp if you run droptimiser or top gear on that sim it shows the crafted pieces as 687

[tacit crystal]

you cant get 687?

me when the limit is 684

[sacred zodiac]

I can

Get on my level

[tacit crystal]

source

[sacred zodiac]

Highest piece in this sim is 684 or am i messing smth

[lost rose]

Yea ik but I think the way the ilvl increase has been coded it bugs out

[woven wasp]

ignore it unless you check the html report and its also 687 there

[tacit crystal]

surely just change the report text

and put it at 681

[woven wasp]

and yeah if you really want to make sure you can use ,ilevel=681

[pulsar fractal]

At which i lvl should we Swap out siren Ring? Droptimizer tells me other Ring is 40k DPS gain, in top gear, i loose over 100k DPS. And yes i have socket selected and upgraded ilvl

[halcyon breach]

Send the top gear sim

[gilded basin]

can we reach the 12% damage buff already?

cant find smt online

[chilly coyote]

Next week

[gilded basin]

alright thanks

[chilly coyote]

Theres this meme foodbuff this week though

[pulsar fractal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cPFvjBW9cBs9goXfKC8ms2

[weak wave]

This won't add 100k dps would it?

Remember I upgrade from 665/675 to both 684

This should give a +dps even without sockets and enchants

[halcyon breach]

Can't quite spot what the cause would be for it being that much lower, since from personal experience I already swapped Cyrce's out with a 665 ring early on in the season

A theory I got is that it's either because it messes with your Mechano + Funhouse stats (I somehow doubt it's the cause but there's a chance), or the ilvl of items are just jank with the ilvl increase from the turbo event

It is indeed the ilvl

Let me try and do a quick sim where it forces it to 681

[pulsar fractal]

Ah. OK, then i guess its time to Farm top for the Ring

[halcyon breach]

That's not the takeaway you should get from this

It's just raidbots, unless you force it (or use gear compare), hasn't been properly updated to account for the turbo event is what I assume

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2Hcu865G8C47Rrq1RxRnnC @pulsar fractal

This is forcing the consecrated seal to 681

[tough tangle]

No but it helps, other things that come to mind if running a different talent build between sims

[tacit crystal]

from dk discord @halcyon breach

[halcyon breach]

Yeah well I assumed as much

[tacit crystal]

so

[deft osprey]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/53wFrXr3YsQezJiPkGdM1s

[tacit crystal]

just kinda send ilvl and that should be enough

until stuff is fixed

[deft osprey]

Jastor or HOC?

[tacit crystal]

flip a coin

both are the same gain

also how reliably are you able to clear the specific bosses and get the loot

[calm hollow]

eh, mythic trinkets enjoyer

[halcyon breach]

still only 671 neck

Tmy still a noober I see

[tacit crystal]

tmy biggest noober

[sturdy compass]

guys turbo boost is until the end of szn ?

[dull siren]

yup

[visual fern]

Hoc n lock

[candid pecan]

and meld

[lean wraith]

why is this still costing me crests

i have a 681 mh and 684 shield

[tacit crystal]

you need maxed 1h shield for discount

[lean wraith]

damn that is brutal

it should at least let me get a couple of the upgrades

for instance when i had 675 shield but 665 wep it let me go to 668 or something im sure

[tacit crystal]

if you upgraded the 2h instead you would have gotten discount for your shield

[lean wraith]

so what im missing is 3 ilvls on 1h

hahahahah

jesus im a dumbass

didnt have a clue

makes sense now you say it

[rare blade]

for the gilded of the undermine achieve my mainhand shows as 0?

so I can't unlock it

even when swapping to 1h + shield

[covert drift]

people have a lot more mastery than i have... hm

may need to tweak some things

[rare blade]

disregard I already had the achievement I guess

[shy tide]

ehm

[teal fossil]

What kind of sim is this

Better not say dungeon slice

[shy tide]

caught 🤓

on ST its minus 90K

[teal fossil]

Yeah I thought 3.9 was weird

But I’m suprised it’s only -90k

[sacred zodiac]

spiteful serenity !!!!

[shy tide]

you can game it a lot more than whatever dslice does in the sims too

since dslice hp vallue is gradual

[teal fossil]

Sum 5m5t

[shy tide]

and not split

[teal fossil]

I wanna see how good it’ is in consistent cleave

Could be cooking for a council fight

[lean wraith]

guys in sweeping strikes is bladestorm affected? does it essentially double the hits

or is it wasted sweeping uptime

[shy tide]

serenity is weird because to gain the most vallue out of it you need to snipe low hp mobs while you still have high hp mobs and you get way more vallue

[smoky kayak]

neither bladestorm nor unhinged are affected by Sweeping Strikes

[dire hinge]

happy wednesday nerds

[empty sluice]

It worked at start of the expansion, they took that fun away

[wanton sierra]

hey the blood mallet has updated stuff, but it wont cover the last ilvl myth possible 8/8

[smoky kayak]

bladestorm never did, just unhinged

[dim basalt]

How many dinars do we get in total

3 or 4?

[smoky kayak]

9 = 3 items

[dim basalt]

Meh, buying heroic jastor feels so bad

[covert drift]

Idk man, maybe i get hated for this but i think ppl just got spoiled lol

You're guaranteed to get the ring that is supposed to be a rare drop by just logging in and getting on the difficulty you killed the boss on

I understand ppl wanting access to raid gear through m+ in some way, that is valid

Make so that +15 up drop a currency or something so that you can farm it

But people really seems to just want the free gear lmao

Want mythic gear? go raid mythic bruv, wtf

[spiral coral]

How does it hurt anyone getting “free” gear though?

[pure otter]

Why play game

[covert drift]

You know what players do when they get all the Bis items?

[spiral coral]

This far into the season this kinda stuff is fine and doesn’t do anything but help people get up to par

[covert drift]

they quit shortly after

[covert drift]

We're on the midway of the season

[teal fossil]

This+level boost is plenty enough to do mythic raid

[spiral coral]

Now all you need is time

[teal fossil]

You shouldn’t be handed a mythic very rare item by logging on

[covert drift]

I'm sorry if you don' t have the time to invest to get the mythic version of the item

You can get the heroic one

The problem is no one wants to be left behind

[chilly copper]

I think the problem is the rigidity of mythic raiding. I’ve played the game for years but never really been in a guild that had the people dedicated enough to put effort into being mythic raiders, plus the roster boss. If they allowed flexi raiding for mythic maybe more people would raid instead of this stupid “just mythic raid” mentality like it’s that easy.

[spiral coral]

I have time to invest in pushing keys, not really m+ raiding unfortunately.

[chilly copper]

The irony is that I now am in a guild that raids mythic but my work schedule changed.

[covert drift]

That is a whole other point, but i believe the whole reason mythic is fixed on 20 ppl is so they can balance the fights around 20 ppl in mind

Flex was and always will be a balance mess

[spiral coral]

My schedule is too chaotic to fairly commit

[covert drift]

Maybe there can be 10 and 20 man mode

But flex i don't think it's possible

i've done some game designing and man this is NOT easy. Not trying to be a blizzard andy but this is not a easy issue

[chilly copper]

The other issue with dinars is blizzard being so tight lipped about it that people formed expectations based off the previous two iterations.

Would’ve been less backlash if from the start they said you can buy items for the difficulty you kill bosses on

[covert drift]

The last ones we're on the last season right? Can you confirm me on this?

I really can't renember

[spiral coral]

Agree. But, doesn’t hurt the “meta” or anything players being given a bis or near bis item. Just makes the player base happy overall? Right?

[chilly copper]

Dragonflights ones were buy the item and it had 12 upgrade tracks that went right up to mythic

[sacred zodiac]

true just turn on the contest realm vendors

[spiral coral]

Converting crests yesterday was so annoying

[nova marsh]

I really hate to tell you this

But that's not the case. Most people just want achieves for the season

Gear is kinda meaningless

[dim basalt]

I didnt mean it that way, Im gonna kill gally mythic soon

[covert drift]

So you believe the IO Score or the AOTC Ach is bigger motivator for the average player than the gear they get?

[dim basalt]

But you know, I still wish I could get it earlier :D

[teal fossil]

It implicitly does because you play the game to gear

[nova marsh]

ggenuinely yes

[teal fossil]

You don’t play the game to play

Else we won’t have the concept of gear

[teal fossil]

Depends on the player

[short briar]

hey so im a prot trying to play arms with friends,this is my current gear and current sim
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ujpASun7XDU5fGAxQzsama
its saying jastor is the best purchase for me? can i get some help and input?

[olive nest]

How big is the food flame buff?

[nova marsh]

Obviously

[teal fossil]

Remember most of wow players don’t even walk into raid or m+

They are here to quest and mog

[olive nest]

I’m deciding if it’s worth my time to get that before raid or keep doing crests

[nova marsh]

I dunno if those players are even part of the convo

Because...we're talking about endgame gear they probally wouldn't give a rats ass about

[teal fossil]

Gear is means to an end for sure

But player engagement drastically dips when you have bis

Going from 10 keys a week to 4 or less

Doesn’t look good for metrics

[nova marsh]

Which is kinda why I think realesing it this early was really stupid

why not just give us the DF system say like 2 months before S3 drops

maybe one month

[teal fossil]

Isn’t it 2 months before s3 drop

Rather it’s kinda close

Then you have corruption getting the rest f the shitters into ce

[nova marsh]

....I'm basically saying it should've been the DF system in .7

not the .5 patch

[covert drift]

In that i can agree

Too early

[spiral coral]

I don’t think it really matters and people are generally happy with being able to get items they’ve been after all season.

[covert drift]

And that is FINE, what i meant is ppl wanting the mythic versions unlocked ez pz

[grand idol]

If that truly was the case it would be a single redeem and unrestricted.

[nova marsh]

I mean I don't really have a horse in this race tbh

I'm geared for the season and not playing alts

I need to just log on and do 3 13s and I'm done with what I wanted to do

I thought turbo boost was kind of a bad idea from the start

[spiral coral]

Idk how tf I went through like 3k valorstones in 24 hours

[olive nest]

Damn I’m not in hall of fame so I’m a shitter

[nova marsh]

Skill issue

I got HOF day 1

[olive nest]

Hole up let me quit my job and stop being a dad

I can raid 4 days a week too

[nova marsh]

There ya go

[olive nest]

See it’s that ez

[spiral coral]

You’re a hof’er to me

[olive nest]

[nova marsh]

Idk maybe it's also cuz I find gearing to be an increasingly boring proccess

[olive nest]

Really??

I love the gearing process the most

[nova marsh]

Kinda yeah

[olive nest]

This turbo boost actually boosted my drive to play significantly!

[nova marsh]

It just feels like a "alright lets get this over with so I can do what I actually want to do" kind of system

[olive nest]

Even took the day off today to grind

[nova marsh]

Espically with the DF upgrade system

[candid kindle]

is there going to be another raid tier this expac or this the last one? with all the stuff it feels like the last one lmao

[pure otter]

late to the convo, but i was thinking, what if they just made the dinars just require the first 4 bosses on mythic to get all mythic items

kinda like what they did with pvp, to get elite sets u used to need 2400, but now its 1800

that way u still have to get ur feet wet but u dont need to feel bottlenecked

[candid kindle]

also a question regarding BIS, do you let it rip on cds at opener or do u actually press it to get it on pull?

[candid kindle]

the amount of ppl that engage in pvp is at an all times low since like SL

[weak wave]

nice UI bug Oo

[spiral coral]

Tf lol

[covert drift]

How to even get into PvP? It seems a mess and way harder to learn than PvE

[candid kindle]

pokemon emerald regis island code 😮

[nova marsh]

no we're getting s3

[pure otter]

agreed but it was something they did a while ago, not this season

[covert drift]

And it's an unbalanced mess

[nova marsh]

there's literally no reason for us to not get S3 and it's on the road map too

[nova marsh]

as if pve is any better

[spiral coral]

The PvP people are trolls but they’re actually super helpful if you ever go to the channel and ask for pointers

[candid kindle]

but its playable

pvp is an unplayable mess unless ure on that .1%

[nova marsh]

Actually

Randomly curious

do we have stats for glad vs KSH/AoTC this season yet?

[candid kindle]

thats why elite set is at 1800, its a fair push for ppl that dont wanna actually engage in big brainage, but still gotta work to get it.

its also fair for those playing anti meta comps because if it was at 2400, only certain classes would get it lol

pvp is fun till its not, when the mmr system works and u dont get q's with a glad sweat on his 5th account, or someone getting piloted.

you get smashed till ur mmr suits ur playstile (i guess) and then is a grind at ant's pace.

also: also a question regarding BIS, do you let it rip on cds at opener or do u actually press it to get it on pull? any knowers?

[spiral coral]

If I wanna pvp ima go pk in osrs

https://tenor.com/view/runescape-old-school-runescape-osrs-pking-smited-gif-25260600

[nova marsh]

If i wonna pvp I could install lol

[candid kindle]

UNTILL IT REGISTERS!!! cracks neck

[candid kindle]

you don't

[spiral coral]

Ppl think osrs is ez till you pk or try jad

[nova marsh]

No i don't besides I'm trash i can't climb

[spiral coral]

I need to get marks of honor for old stuff I want

Unfortunately

[nova marsh]

Wait till the bot bg comes back

Then grind

[spiral coral]

Good idea

[chilly copper]

Comp stomp is pretty good for farming honour

[icy mulch]

And here we are, grinding some more.

[olive nest]

dat me

no shaman womp womp

xD

[icy mulch]

That's your fault. lol

[heady ridge]

What would you guys buy in my situation, with dinars ? All gear is myth or hero track

[chilly copper]

Weapon and Jastor probably

[heady ridge]

No mythic kills forgot to mention 🙂

[chilly copper]

Then you are looking at a nice memento of three dinars

[heady ridge]

Jastor is not better the Cyrce ?

[fresh spire]

heroic jastors should be

[chilly copper]

Ultimately, sim your character.

[eager matrix]

do i sim patchwerk 5 targets 5 min for m+? or dungeon slice

[tacit crystal]

5-8t 40s

1t 2-3m

[olive nest]

imagine shaman

add like 300k more

xD

[teal fossil]

Iirc we aren’t even top 5 in aoe with windfury

Since rage is actually cosmetic

[minor gust]

Full red bar means I'm super angry so I'm doing more damage

[steep osprey]

Imagine if we had something like that

[dim basalt]

Could be a fun rage management mechanic

[sacred zodiac]

call it frothing berserker

[teal fossil]

Rogue has something like that

[steep osprey]

Oh yeah they do

Sanguine Blades

Assa

[teal fossil]

Imagine not being able to burst

Until you are over 50 rage

Really funny

[dim basalt]

hell yeah

[shadow ibex]

Some pulls my hardest hitting attack doesn't even cost rage

[halcyon valve]

Demolish?

[shadow ibex]

Overpower

[earnest imp]

whats the best way to stop your character charging through M mugzee hit box during intermission?

with still using charge xd

[minor gust]

wait till the boss finishes moving

[earnest imp]

thought as much ty

[quaint bloom]

New wow player , my friends have ran a guild for like 10+ years finally convinced me to play been playing for like 1 solid month and can’t seam to hit 3 mill dps of +10

Any advice?

Aoe build currently

[minor gust]

hard to tell without logs or video of your gameplay but most new players struggle with the abc always be casting. Meaning making sure your using every global. A lot of new players hold their cooldowns to much as well. Dont be afraid to just send them even if its not a large pull send em on cd until you get a hang of things more.

[quaint bloom]

Fair enough yea that’s what I’ve been trying to do besides on like tiny packs almost dead

Also first computer game ever so also learning how to use a kb and mouse

[minor gust]

well glad your getting into it! all that stuff will come as you play more and get more into it. Best I can recommend is just watching good players and slowly copy what they do and you will improve.

Just try and have fun while your learning. More fun your having more likely you will want to keep playing and keep trying to get better!

[quaint bloom]

Thanks appreciate the good vibes!

[spiral coral]

@quaint bloom watching streamers like CritCake or vods from people like Noxiv will help, also setting up a good keybind that’s comfortable for you will help a ton. Idk what the default one is but I know it’s not great. If you hear talk about “add-ons” you can download CurseForge and look through them. And if you hear anyone talking about “simming” people are using RaidBots.io and using a simulator for their gear. Sorry that’s a lot, if you ever have any questions just ask.

[proud heath]

Why are people using wrecking throw on mythic mugzee?

[magic canopy]

could be a meme parse strat where you let him get a shield by letting a pay respects go through then wrecking throw it

[proud heath]

Thank you

[wintry arch]

OAB down, actually so easy we are legit turbo boosted

bis or hoc??

[minor gust]

Torq's Big Red Buton

[wintry arch]

went hoc

robot commanded it

[quaint bloom]

Thank you ! The guild has helped a lot with the wow specific things like you mentioned I’ll check those streamers out

[wintry arch]

colussus smash and demolish should swap names, change my mind

[stable fiber]

i disagree

[wintry arch]

why

[stable fiber]

i just disagree

[wintry arch]

ok

[flat willow]

do not touch colossus smash

except if you want tactician to reset it

glorious glorious colossus smash, I love it so much

[wintry arch]

i dont mean mechanically changing either of them

i just mean their names seem like they could be swapped

[flat willow]

we should mechanically change demolish a lot, tho

I mean, that's kind of the theme of warrior, all ability names could be swapped

[wintry arch]

ok true

[flat willow]

slam or mortal strike, who would even notice

change colossus smash's name to overpower, you overpower the enemy and deal more damage to it

🧠

[wintry arch]

you demolish your opponents armor, doing more dmg

yeah you could do it with just about any spell

[stable fiber]

only took 200 pulls

(fake 100)

[errant goblet]

is fatality affected by collosus smash avatar and stuff like that or no

[stable fiber]

afaik its only main stat and secondaries like mastery and vers

and test of might

but im new arms warrior so im not sure

[shadow ibex]

its affected by everything ever

except crit

[errant goblet]

anyone have the spell reflect spreadsheet

found it

[molten crag]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/coff3Hxxz5P6WC9XZiJ2rv would takeing the wep be worth? BIS?

[nova marsh]

Tbh you could get better with crafted

[molten crag]

0 sparks :/

[nova marsh]

Don't think it's worth it still

[molten crag]

ok

what about the jastor's diam

says its a 2%

for prot and arms/

[balmy kindle]

Jastors is always worth

[raw hollow]

What abilities would you use wrecking throw on in m+ is there a list of abilities?

[minor gust]

any shield

big ones would be rookery and priory

[icy mulch]

which is why priests were screaming about it in PVP.

[stable fiber]

why does sweep get removed on pull for OAB

that so shit LOL

[minor gust]

because Blizzard hates us

[stable fiber]

its up sometimes though

maybe if it has 10> seconds it removes it

ill try using it earlier

[prime bramble]

mead 12 shenanigans

[minor gust]

based kill

pally tank kill in enrage in bubble

[wintry arch]

Slayer?

[minor gust]

@shadow ibex KEK https://www.twitch.tv/mothravita/clip/SassyCovertBorkPeteZarollTie-duPzz7kccR87srTb

[wintry arch]

Hell yeah a kills a kill

[prime bramble]

naw just too lazy to remake the gif with cleave kekw

[tame moth]

You made me panic thinking it's always been like this but this seems to be a very recent thing. I checked my vod for last week and it didn't remove sweep 😦

[dim basalt]

Was a thing last week already

Think it started with the .5 patch

[crude tiger]

hi guys, im playing arms, since 2 weeks and as i see from the logs im playing quite well the warr as itlvl ill parse from 72% to 93\94% but if i watch the logs from wowanalytics i see many rotations issue, for example: Cast Execute when any of the following conditions are met:
Your target has 3 stacks of Marked For Execution
Your Juggernaut is about to expire
Your Sudden Death is about to expire
You have 2 stacks of Sudden Death and i have like 42% of this and, Cast Overpower while in execute range with the following conditions:
You have the Opportunist buff
You have fewer than 2 stacks of Martial Prowess 50% of this. how can i impove it?

anyone got overpower conditions wa? i found the execute conditions, but not the overpower.

[tacit crystal]

you basically always press opportunist

[weak wave]

Slayer is so much smoother gameplay in M+. Damn that it's still behind Colossus. 😐

[crude tiger]

yes, but if i got conditions of execute and coditions for opportunist. what i have to priorytize? opp or exe?

as i know opp > mortal strike

but exe>opp? or opp > every procs?

[balmy kindle]

I hate it though, you are at mercy of reap procs

Bladestorm also hits like a wet paper bag still

[weak wave]

Yeah..

[fossil terrace]

Does anyone know if Jastors works in solo delves with just Brann?

[balmy kindle]

Also Colo is alot tankier than slayer as well

[crude tiger]

so execute > everything?

[tacit crystal]

execute alone is the last thing you press in execute

can you link a log of you playing

#arms message

also use this

[crude tiger]

yeah sure https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/pozzo-delleternita/malastras

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-a-log-into-the-river-viralhog-throw-away-toss-chuck-gif-23581484

[crude tiger]

kekw

[magic canopy]

im using heroic throw

[crude tiger]

heroic throw of a log basically KEKW

[safe island]

Should I use the on-use effect of a best-in-slot weapon every time it's off cooldown?

[crude tiger]

yes

[gloomy prism]

hey starter on arms and prot main

quick question do i spam cleave in a dungeon

or any limitation there like mobcount and such

i did see some logs where ppl have a giga cleave dmg and mine is always kinda tiney ^^

[tacit crystal]

i think you need to get ilvl and reread the wowhead guide

the 2 wa's should be able to carry you a lot

ould also get away with pressing everything on cd except what the wa's do

[crude tiger]

sure IL actually is the priority, but i can do a lot better actually for the rotation, so just chill down follow the wa's procs ad nothing more KEK

[tacit crystal]

also review the opener

what you are doing is wrong

[balmy kindle]

Once you get familiar with the spec knowing how to make use of collateral damage is big

[gloomy prism]

what is collateral dmg 😄

i basicly dont knwo the specc

[minor gust]

then start here https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715

choose any of these guides

[gloomy prism]

cheers

[crude tiger]

a question, if thunderclap is talented. is better applying and refresh rend with thunderclap o use rend?

[woven wasp]

In single target pressing rend will deal marginally more damage but it doesn't really matter

[slow saddle]

i mean theres like sev times when just clappin is nice

out of melee range send a clap

[swift crown]

Many people simply replace Rend with TClap on their bars when talented into it

it's not that big of a deal to apply with TC even in ST

[fresh spire]

I'm a clap gamer

[minor gust]

rend hasnt been on my bars in years at this point

[rare kite]

was on my bar in df, but in df slam wasn't

[viral locust]

sorry fi this asked million times on arms st do we send HOC with ava then bis after cd?

[rare kite]

yeah, bis on cs

[viral locust]

ty

[minor gust]

10.0 arms

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1044305808265064489/20221117_134847.gif

[rare kite]

tru, tho i only played that on terros earlyprog

[minor gust]

what a dark time press CS ignore OP spam slam and ms to min max TOM

[rare kite]

indeed, i kinda miss big whirlwind tho

[minor gust]

we all do

best thing to come out of DF and it was deleted next expansion

[rare kite]

yupp. you just know collatt is getting removed next expansion

[peak basin]

did skullsplitter get killed too?

seem to remember it consuming bleeds instantly

[minor gust]

SKS still exists so no

it didnt get killed

[peak basin]

I’ll reframe as it got significantly changed mechanically in a negative way then?

[minor gust]

depends who you ask I prefer this version of SKS way more than what it was

[rare kite]

in a positive way. it's just weaker now

tuned weak*

i'd rather not have a button that makes my next ms do 20% less damage

[minor gust]

yeah there was some nice burst with old SKS but the way it worked was cringe and annoying

[peak basin]

ye but it did so much dmg

Arms is still a blast though what a spec

[minor gust]

SOS was an 10/10 talent the only complaint people had about it was it contributed to button bloat

[rare kite]

100%

[minor gust]

they didnt even give it a chance in TWW with new rage

coulda kept it but nerfed the rage cost to 50 or 40

instead of turning it into a completely worthless talent

[rare kite]

ngl i think this is the worst iteration of arms i have ever played. well atleast slayer, tho the culprit really is just juggernaut

arms with s3 df set instead of jugg would be amazing

[minor gust]

We can only dream

seriously that tier set would be a perfect addition to TWW arms

If slayer is gonna be all about SD then SD needs some sort of value in aoe

[rare kite]

yupp, and the sound of thunderclap as you pressed exe. chefs kiss

[peak basin]

still better than everything else for me, but yeah lot of stuff is worse than it should be

especially bladestorm

[minor gust]

there was plenty of good changes for arms going into TWW but after playing with it for almost a year now I rather be playing DF arms 100%

[peak basin]

same

if bladestorm was better in m+ half my complaints would go

[minor gust]

Bladestorm needs more buffs and demolish needs to be completely reworked

[rare kite]

demolish should just be searing axe(or whatever the plunder ability was called) you charge up a big hit and you move slowly whilst charging it up

[minor gust]

plenty of things they can do my favorite idea was turning it into templar strikes like ret pally has

make it a 3 part combo attack with half gcd

[rare kite]

yea that would be nice as well

[minor gust]

press it 3 times first two are ST hits and last one is the big aoe that is a frontal like cleave and not the targeted cringe

[trail sage]

M+ Gear done i guess 😄

[rare kite]

angriffstempo

[peak basin]

Speiloplat

[trail sage]

ahhahhaah

[minor gust]

Spieloplatt goes pretty hard

[dim basalt]

German bis name is pretty bad

[trail sage]

ya

[rare kite]

it's pretty funny to me that alot of people play in their native language. i don't think you would find any norwegians playing in norwegian

[trail sage]

😄

[dim basalt]

Its really common among Germans though

[rare kite]

yea and the french as well

[dim basalt]

Then you explain stuff with English terms and the ones with the German client are like "ok but what ability is it"

[void bay]

I need a hero

[dim basalt]

Its prob even more common among French

[minor gust]

then spread this solution I need them to do this

[dim basalt]

Theyre just too proud to learn English

[peak basin]

if target moves a pixel out of demolish range does it cancel the dmg?

[minor gust]

yes

[peak basin]

I’ve always just assumed it did but never checked details to confirm

that’s the worst part

[rare kite]

yup but if target dies it doesn't cancel. shit is weird

[sturdy compass]

Nah

Most of the time we know English and are just too proud to speak it at all

[swift crown]

German WoW boomers are a meme for a reason

[peak basin]

are all cleave buffs for warr multiplicative?

[wary dune]

Hey guys, quick question. 100+ rage. 1 stack of overpower, MS on CD. In non execute. What’s your next global?

Is it OP or slam?

[minor gust]

op rage doesnt matter

also you can check out any of the guides in here https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715 they will give you a priority breakdown

[wary dune]

Great thanks. I was aware Op is higher but wasn’t sure if you wanted to cap rage rather than spend it, especially with AM. Like it is with fury

[minor gust]

yeah for the most part rage isnt a thing we care about as arms

[atomic mountain]

bro are you even working?

[spiral coral]

Reminds me of Zywoo when he first came to the scene and refused to speak English until he was comfortable

[sturdy compass]

I mean that’s fair

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/zywoo-vitality-team-vitality-csgo-no-gif-19470124

Asked him questions and bro just kept saying no 😂

[sturdy compass]

I am French myself and don’t care about speaking English it’s just silly not to adapt, but I really know some people that are fluent and won’t speak English when there’s another French speaker in the group

Out of sheer pride

Even if it’s 2v3

[spiral coral]

His English is so good now it’s crazy

[sturdy compass]

Not like he had many choices

[spiral coral]

Ehhh I mean vitality did really well as a French core for awhile

[sturdy compass]

French esport scene is crazy in comparaison to the culture surrounding video game in the country

[spiral coral]

There’s some esport GOATs that have come out of France

[sturdy compass]

All of rocket league esport

R6

Cs

League is growing strongly

Valorant is..

Trying

[spiral coral]

Ceb, Zywoo, Apex, Kenny, Shox, CLEM

[boreal quartz]

French League Fans shoudnt boo other teams

[spiral coral]

Monkey moon

[boreal quartz]

Cringe behaviour

[sturdy compass]

I’ve played scrims with tier 2 valorant teams back when I was a tier 2 aim coach and the disparity is too wide they need to restrict their player base if they want to go up

[spiral coral]

Just make all esports events in Australia

Best fans

[boreal quartz]

I liked worlds in Paris tbf

[sturdy compass]

That’s what makes a show

Regarding ambiance, the French teams are always on top

[boreal quartz]

You can cheer your guys but booing doesnt really need to happen

[sturdy compass]

Happens in litteraly every other sport

In every country

Esport is just soft

Esp league and valorant

[boreal quartz]

The roadshow in Madrid was better

[spiral coral]

Crazy how far esports has come. I used to get in a car and drive like 10+ hours with pcs or Xbox’s to go lan

Used to be so many events everywhere all the time

[boreal quartz]

Franchising made it a bit weird ig

[spiral coral]

iBuyPower happened

[boreal quartz]

Like even if 5 random players that click ultra well tear up the 2nd div

[spiral coral]

And console gaming regurgitation happened

[boreal quartz]

Cant ever join tier 1 cuz you need to pay millions for a spot

LoL anyways

[spiral coral]

And MLG being ran by Sundance DiGiovanni… was.. well, I mean just look at their name

[sturdy compass]

Lmao

[spiral coral]

Yeah partnered leagues was the ultimate death of esports

[sturdy compass]

Fucking Pokémon villain

[spiral coral]

For lower end teams to get in fairly and the scenes grow

Then you have Falcons 🤦‍♂️

Buying all the good players

[woven wasp]

I think cod and ow trying to force traditional sports country/states onto esports is weird

[trail sage]

nah 😄

[marble steppe]

its cringe

[spiral coral]

If ow was successful it wouldn’t be

Only reason it failed was ow sucked

It had crazy amount of investors like nfl and nba owners making teams left and right

Also they had this proposed idea of league profit sharing and being able to fund other start up teams to grow the league. It had like a 5-10 year plan

Just, overwatch blew chunks and no one watched or went to events

[viral locust]

cute

[inland drift]

nice

[viral locust]

Complete trusting raidbots here lol

[spiral coral]

That’s almost exactly how my stats have fallen

[teal fossil]

40/40/10/10

[slow saddle]

Its done we killed stix this morning.

Now of to sprocket😆😆

[hollow plover]

lol

[slow saddle]

M8, i swear our tank that rolls the most balls is the worst player we have by a mile

[hollow plover]

the same tank should roll all balls

it should be the better tank rolling as well

[slow saddle]

I mean loads of should m8

[calm hollow]

hmm, i just noticed that Sweeping drops on entering combat when doing old content raids for example Sepulcher, anyone know if its active in current raids?

[strange perch]

cute

[teal fossil]

People been noticing this in current raids

[icy mulch]

Hell yeah!

[calm hollow]

So pre-sweep on bandit was too op tech

[icy mulch]

Sprocket is no where near as awful as Stix.

[calm hollow]

now that you can skip the hard part of the fight, sure

[olive nest]

Was pre sweep a hidden change this reset?

I don’t remember that happening during OAB

[calm hollow]

seems like it

might be just a bug, knowing blizzard

[olive nest]

Rather annoying that they do changes like that

[icy mulch]

Which was the hard part? We killed sprocket weeks ago.

[olive nest]

Who cares if we’re smart enough to pre sweep for better timings during the fight

[calm hollow]

the black balls

[olive nest]

Simple skill expression lol

[icy mulch]

Ah, we didn't have issues with the balls. For us it that one guy being dumb with drill baits.

[slow saddle]

I mean, i know some will struggle, but there arent that many all must do mechanics or raid whipes are there?

[peak basin]

Blanket nerf to CDs pre pull to nerf fire mages pyroblasting with 4s left on pull timer

[calm hollow]

its a pretty simple fight

[peak basin]

got collateral damages

[slow saddle]

Yes but if the idiots cant kill us we got a shot

[calm hollow]

well, they just can die, and kick ppl in bombs xd

[hollow plover]

the best part is how much freedom u have, u can presweep at 10 or at 4 and ur chilling

[icy mulch]

Well, Sprocket does have a lot of those "can kill all" fail checks.

[slow saddle]

Hm

[calm hollow]

if they cant swap position on color change, you are kinda fcked

[slow saddle]

But they include a small sample of raid doing sonething specefic?

[slow saddle]

Fuck

I forgot

[icy mulch]

Mines, color swaps, portal movement, drill baits.

[slow saddle]

Thank you for ruining my joy

[calm hollow]

No worries

[icy mulch]

It's still better than Stix

[olive nest]

Sprocket is my favorite fight so far

Mugz might take the spot though

My mugz experience is skewed though since no assignments

[calm hollow]

i swear Stix is so easy now, with the lot of nerfs, its almost just hc

[icy mulch]

Mug'zee is my fav mythic fight so far

[olive nest]

Osa

Tonight possibly!!!

[icy mulch]

You got this!

[olive nest]

The boss could randomly just die for us if we learn the 4 cage set easily

[calm hollow]

last 20% is chaotic, with the last prison overlaps

[olive nest]

Don’t think we see final bomb set

[calm hollow]

but you might have it

[icy mulch]

We killed him last night. We had to stop dps on him to prevent early transition.

[olive nest]

Us too yeah

P2 about 4:03

Right after 3 cage set ends

[icy mulch]

Yup, stopped potting on pull as well.

[calm hollow]

3? we phase after 2

am i missing something?

[icy mulch]

3 cages

[olive nest]

You push really fast if you skip 3 cages set

[icy mulch]

Second set

[calm hollow]

oh 3, not 3rd

[olive nest]

Oh yeah I’m wording it differently I guess

Yes the 2nd set

[icy mulch]

I understood his confusion. Lol

[olive nest]

In all honesty our biggest struggle is the bombs

Melee brains standing in them when they spawn lmao

[calm hollow]

dont worry even on reclears, we fuck up bombs

[icy mulch]

Yeah, popping bombs is nasty business.

[olive nest]

As soon as team figures that out we kill

Cages seems easy enough to learn

[icy mulch]

The bombs/frost boots. Pop rally.

[olive nest]

We have markers for them too

Yes I’m assigned there with Kaze

[icy mulch]

The overlap of them that is

My raid lead didn't even bother assigning rally. Just trusts me to learn and do.

Mind you I still can not time the leap from cage trick

[olive nest]

Our healer officer takes care of everything

Just listen for audio que and Zug

[calm hollow]

i hope this week with ilvl buff i can do even more

[olive nest]

Oh yeah dude if you did 2.99 pre turbo boost

You will pipe hard I bet

I’m have next to zero cleave opportunity in my comp

The adds get absolutely smoked

I’m like “nooo my mouseover execute stacks”

[icy mulch]

Yeah, I went ST fury for mug'zee.

Let reap and bladestorm cleave. Fucking warlocking munching hard on em.

[calm hollow]

i'm ST arms, with Imp SS, no need for more aoe

[olive nest]

Same yep

I’m almost thinking I’ll just drop ISS for BB

The things die so fast

[calm hollow]

might be the play tbh

[icy mulch]

I started raid as Fury and raid leader didn't want me to switch. >.< lol

[olive nest]

I play arms wherever possible unless fury is just a night and day difference

Thankfully not this tier

[calm hollow]

yea i will drop imp ss this week

ppl dont really play it anymore

[storm lark]

I had the fattest rank 1 on mugzee but we wiped on 4%

[calm hollow]

oof, i would be madge

we wiped on a pull i had 100% jugger uptime, wasnt happy either

[storm lark]

Theres always next week

[calm hollow]

[calm hollow]

its like my 1st gally kill, where i was above 3m on 6%, with full cd coming back

got a stroke and charged through 2 lightning

so lost 200k dps before they got me up

at the point was a rank1 contender, sadge

[wintry arch]

I’m gonna play colossus on mugzee

No jugg

My mental health is declining with slayer

[viral locust]

Will your mental health be better when you demo and boss charges away kek

[storm lark]

Slayer on mugzee is what slayer was made for

peak

[minor gust]

Yeah Slayer feels better on Mugzee but you can still get cucked by rng

[calm hollow]

i pulled a rank 4, while getting 2 cages on that pull

i dont think it matters

[minor gust]

Was talking more about Jugg rng

[calm hollow]

my 100% uptime jugg was a worse pull

[minor gust]

Just Crit more loser

[calm hollow]

yep, thats the only thing that matters

rng

[minor gust]

Lack of Crits you can block out of your mind but losing Jugg stacks is a nut punch

You feel it even if the dmg loss isn't that big of a deal

[calm hollow]

only on the last prison imo, before it, losing doesnt really matter that much

if you lost it on last prison, you are fucked kinda

[minor gust]

Yeah I lost my stacks on our kill pull in last jail cell

Woulda prob had 3.1 mil on that pull

[calm hollow]

i had a pull where 15 jugg dropped on 35.5%

now thats a different story

[dim basalt]

rope angle

[calm hollow]

literal 1 sec dif

[minor gust]

I'm full coping 11.2 will have some sort of Jugg change

[calm hollow]

yea they will remove the 15 cap and add back 99 cap, so it will hurt more when it drops

[sacred zodiac]

Dont overdose

[minor gust]

If I overdose won't I be free

The dream scenario is jugg is removed and DF S3 tier set is added as a talent

[teal fossil]

We have people who want no jug

And we have people who want legion jug

Truly two sides of the spectrum

[nova marsh]

Let jugg fucking die already

Such a cringe talent and has been since legion. Hell legion jugg was lowkey worse

[sacred zodiac]

Which one is that

[minor gust]

Consuming SD procs casts a big thunderclap

[teal fossil]

Clap yo cheeks

[minor gust]

Gave a reason to consume SD procs in AOE. Something Slayer desperately could use.

[teal fossil]

The most well designed warrior tier yet

So many tuning levers

[sacred zodiac]

Ew

[minor gust]

I don't remember what the dmg increase for the clap was I think it increased by like 400% so the clap actually did decent dmg

But the auto rend refresh was sick

[calm hollow]

Ngl the rend refresh really was good

Outside of that, DF sets kinda sucked, the flat dam increase set was our best in the expansion

which is really sad

[teal fossil]

I mean that’s tuning

[calm hollow]

if we would have Thane thunder claps as the SD proc set

now that would rock

[minor gust]

I mean once they buffed it the thunderclaps were doing good dmg in keys

[calm hollow]

i would say "good"

it did more than nothing

[minor gust]

It did what it was designed to do and made SD procs meaningful in AOE

Instead of ignoring them

[dim basalt]

juicy +10 priory pug

[teal fossil]

design is infinitely more important than numbers

[novel belfry]

quick question, are the sims broken right now? i wanted to buy jastor diamond and expected a big increase but its a net dmg loss and i cant wrap my head around that

[calm hollow]

link sim

[merry stone]

Did you put 2 gems on it?

[minor gust]

The ol what's wrong with my sim question without posting the sim. Classic

[calm hollow]

And then instantly disappearing

[minor gust]

[livid cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/mick3ytv-smoke-bomb-magic-disappear-gif-5138387

[swift plume]

Is arms cooked guys

Fury chat is popping off and arms chat is just deadge

[minor gust]

That's normal

[rain cipher]

Typical

[sage bison]

is this real?

https://prnt.sc/NagVHAI2El9O

mainstat giving that little return vs secondaries?

[quasi torrent]

check how much mainstat u get on items vs secondary

and now check how much mainstat goes up for upgrading ilvl vs secondary

👍

[sage bison]

so stat weights is actually fawked, i didnt trust the header

[strong kraken]

yo do we prio cleave in aoe, over execute with SS up?

does the 3 target rule over ride that?

[dim basalt]

Why would you ever press execute in M+

Outside of a slam repalcement

[shadow ibex]

Burn down execute

[olive nest]

Watching the silly wizards mald out when you climb to the top in execute phase is the best!

[shadow ibex]

I need a playlist for leg day

[thick kelp]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4hGZUuV3qcG4ktAvxncm3G?si=7b4adcbba7174acd

[calm hollow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s9wKXQFdrVo1hnsjXVLX7a

is there any reason, my crafted items sim at 675?

[ionic loom]

There should be a big yellow warning banner up top about that bug on the website

[slow saddle]

When we sim almosy 3m and frost dk sims 3.4

[calm hollow]

oh so thats it

[olive nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sATpnLPrB5wBRqMf39gp5i

I need more gas but pedal maxed out

[calm hollow]

but this is not top gear

[olive nest]

I should gear compare all the stat combinations on crafts maybe I can get some more

And run gems instead of being lazy running all haste Kek

[slow saddle]

Radiant power?

[olive nest]

Oh ye key doer

Few thousand from that too

[calm hollow]

so everyone else has 681 crafted sim, just mine is fucked

hmmmge

[frosty ingot]

do you guys eat mortal strike resets asap, or do you just opportunist buffs/EP first?

the prio seems like it should be the latter, but i see people spam MS and do insane dps. and when i try to buff MS first i end up sucking

[pale glade]

MS is generally the priority in the reg rotation, unless you're in mutli target w/ 3+ targets and cleave

[dim basalt]

opportunist >>>

and in exe you EP first

opp > ep > ms

[frosty ingot]

i just don’t get it. i have a friend who says he will just MS if he gets resets and he parses like 97%+ on mythic raid lol

i don’t know what i’m fucking up to top out at like 88

[olive nest]

If MS resets itself and you do not have a opportunist proc or non of the SD/Execute conditions are met then yes you can back to back MS

[frosty ingot]

so execution phase is like:

exe > opportunist > exe > opportunist > MS? because you want 2 EP before every MS?

i get a ton of opp procs for sure

[dim basalt]

After 2x EP you just send MS and ignore opp

[olive nest]

Yes if you proc opp like that you consume them

[dim basalt]

You only use opp before you have your 2nd stack of EP

[olive nest]

To my understanding you consume OPP before MS always, unless you already have 2x martial prowess stacks

Including execute phase

[dim basalt]

no

[frosty ingot]

i wonder if i don’t have enough haste, because it feels like i take so long to hit MS in execution phase

[dim basalt]

You always have 3 gcds, unrelated to haste

[strong kraken]

noted, i wont hit execute

[frosty ingot]

so you shouldn’t opportunist OP at all in execute? except to build rage?

[dim basalt]

In M+ it really is just a replacement for Slam because it deals no damage without multiple exe talents

[frosty ingot]

i think is what this is implying?

[dim basalt]

if you proc opp and dont have 2x EP, you press op

But if you have 1x mp and proc your opp on your 2nd execute, you send ms

[frosty ingot]

so in raid you’ll always have EP

[dim basalt]

The difference is not massive though

You rely more on crit lol

[fast nebula]

in reality If you have rage you just exe until you can MS, but you will run low on rage eventually rather quickly

[olive nest]

Idk I follow the gamers over in tmy’s discord, they do it like I say unless I’m miss reading

[dim basalt]

Nah thats dog

[frosty ingot]

lol. well it seems like everyone does things a bit differently and i’m still sucking hard, so it must be something else

[dim basalt]

And its up-to-date? Considering SKS is there

[frosty ingot]

thank you for the tips/insight though, if nothing else.

[olive nest]

Sks is there if you use it

[frosty ingot]

and i know not to press opp procs as much at least

[olive nest]

Right now we don’t

[dim basalt]

Tbh you consume it like 95% of the time

[olive nest]

More likely than not without diving into a log you are probably just low APM

Missing CS casts because you’re missing MS casts, munching SD procs when they sit at 2x

Dropping jug (this is a lot of rng sometimes but can also be played poorly)

Not consuming OPP often enough

Just some guess

Look at those

[frosty ingot]

i can upload a log in a sec

[dim basalt]

It all adds up really quickly ye

[frosty ingot]

but i think i have good uptime

unless that just means “am i in range of the boss”

[fast nebula]

my point is you will be forced to press OP very quickly so you dont even have to think about the buff you will consume it

only think about it outside of execute phase

[frosty ingot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2JwVpRXD19cLM6zA?fight=1&type=damage-done

sadly, this was like my first time playing arms and i don't have many logs. everyone wants me to tank so i never get to dps

[empty pike]

Guys, does anyone have any videos/tips of Warrior jumping Mugzee's cage with Heroic Leap?

[tacit crystal]

Why would you do that

[olive nest]

I wouldn’t bother

You have to land the leap at exactly .2 seconds

[empty pike]

to avoid taking aoe damage at the end when the add dies. I leave the cage at the mark and leave with the leap at the last second

[olive nest]

You’ll just fail more often than not

If your healers can’t keep you alive during the cage break you got bigger problems friend

Warrior tanky

[empty pike]

I just want to do min/max without having to become void elf

[olive nest]

.2 seconds exactly

No room for error

[dim basalt]

Its been a while since someone came in here and complained that warrior is squishy

[empty pike]

maybe because there is no kyveza in the patch

[empty pike]

k thanks bro

[dim basalt]

Kyveza was a nightmare

[shadow ibex]

We got more stamina as well

[calm hollow]

lets go

mythic

[fresh spire]

ez gg

[dim basalt]

same here

didnt get bis tho

our perma dying dragon did

[fresh spire]

evoker moment

[olive nest]

Real

[wanton pumice]

are you taking about when you have a cage on you and you want to leave or just leave in general because you cannot heroic leap out of a cage once you are in

[boreal remnant]

There's a yellow version of these shoulders, was that a PvP model?

[empty pike]

yeah

[regal dragon]

Hows arms doin in higher keys? like 12+

[gusty nymph]

Ok meh

[regal dragon]

trying to push my own keys and currently at an 11 right now

[wanton pumice]

Have to do it at the last like .1-.2 second on timer but honestly if you try it and mess it up a couple of times I would just mic up and tell one the the TP classes that is hard assigned to whatever jail you get and tell them they can leave right away without risking the jail being in a weird spot

[regal dragon]

And honestly I dont wanna reroll other classes dont hit the spot like warrior does

[dim basalt]

Pretty good

Good damage, tanky enough

[regal dragon]

oh good, im learning how to do better mechanically as well as rotation. Ive been relying on Hekili way to much

[dim basalt]

How far did you guys get on your first night on mugzee

[vast drum]

if you already are running with a WW monk, is it worth bringing a sham healer and boomie dps or stick to disc and just find a lust somewhere?

for m+

[dim basalt]

Personally I think sham healer is the worst you can bring

[rough sluice]

Disc with shaman dps

[dim basalt]

Can bring a resto druid instead

[vast drum]

Ight ty

[dim basalt]

And either sham or rogue dps ye