#arms
plucky mortar
flat willow
"wow that spell sure is a disgusting piece of shit unworthy of being in the monk class"
"give it to arms"
fresh spire
there is no other m+ one 😄
pearl jasper
well we arent mages who gets their underperforming talents buffed. So blizz will soon nerf colossus, making slayer bis for all content again, then proceed to nerf that and so on
fresh spire
signet is -ok-
livid crescent
there is no other m+ one 😄
What about ToP trinket?
fresh spire
eh, it sims ok but in practice doesnt feel that good
red stream
the delve trinkets like mechano are really good, but only go up to heroic
livid crescent
I don't like running delves that's the problem
Rather just farm a dungeon for a trinket
minor gust
Still suffers target cap issues so will be whatever
fresh spire
reap tho
sly geode
The playstyle w demolish is too far removed from what made a lot of us 'veteran' players fall in love w Arms in the first place! Demolish is v strong but it's also v awkward and isn't Arms
queen star
should try your luck with 1 delve a week with underpin summon realistically
if you get one of the trinkets on herotrack its solid
fresh spire
Still suffers target cap issues so will be whatever
👀
they renamed cleave to bloodthirst 😄
flat willow
I wouldn't mind demolish if it didn't self root and didn't break the moment the mob takes 1 step away from you
minor gust
👀
We shall see I'll def try some high Slayer keys next week for funsies
I will report back
livid crescent
Is demolish the m+ build?
flat willow
I would love if demolish had a MODERN DESIGN like ret hammer of light and just morphed your colossus smash into demolish
livid crescent
I hate pressing it so much
flat willow
to fix desynch issues in single target
livid crescent
tanks always run out of it
queen star
tanks do have the magic ability of starting a sudden movement once the demolish button has been pressed
queen star
whether theres a mechanic or there isnt
flat willow
ofc it's actually very easy to make demolish 100 times better
but why would blizzard do that
icy mulch
@magic canopy This is bullshit.
sly geode
Demolish is just a reskinned version of that spell survival hunters currently have
flat willow
survival has a self root?
I thought ccing yourself was exclusive to warrior
very unique and flavorful
magic canopy
<@110993922691477504> This is bullshit.
hollow plover
https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-583448404141...
i dont like how u said bladestorm buff is going in the right direction
minor gust
fresh spire
;o
hollow plover
its not adressing the core issues at all and if they are willing to buy slayer arms (and slayer fury ig), then why is it bladestorm when theres so many extra avenues to buff it
icy mulch
Ret buffs make no sense. Our Paladin (who just had to go Prot) is all sad. Was saying they needed it cause they were one of the worst in raid. I laughed.
icy mulch
A lot.
minor gust
I mean ret is pretty bad at raid yeah
hollow plover
Ret buffs make no sense. Our Paladin (who just had to go Prot) is all sad. Was s...
ret doesnt do that much dmg in high profile raiding
flat willow
icy mulch
That's cause it's biggest damage ability is a damn proc. So I imagine a lot of that big damage gets wasted.
sly geode
ret doesnt do that much dmg in high profile raiding
They should give ret demolish and colossus wake of ashes
hollow plover
That's cause it's biggest damage ability is a damn proc. So I imagine a lot of t...
uh no its just not that good
flat willow
oh look, dev evoker destroying everything
yet I remember getting into a fight about dev not needing a buff when it happened
and how fury was so much better
must have been dreaming
icy mulch
Still annoying they didn't give us much love for M+
minor gust
its a game get over it fury needs God for M+ right now and thats not happening till they can do major changes in 11.2
flat willow
but yes, ret was almost dead last in raid with dh
now that they are both buffed, both warrior specs are almost dead last
buff soon
fringe moon
Shame there’s no colossus ST buffs
flat willow
hollow plover
Shame there’s no colossus ST buffs
idk i like colossus st where it is
im weird tho
icy mulch
Calling it now, you're all saying Warrior will get big buffs and changes in 11.2. I doubt we get anything meaningful.
flat willow
oh we aren't
hollow plover
Calling it now, you're all saying Warrior will get big buffs and changes in 11.2...
nah
no one is saying that
we will get 3 lines max
per hero talent
if anything
proper pier
Waiting for the 13.0 rework
flat willow
I just like pointing out that after the ret and dh buffs, we will be the rets (without their aoe)
boomkin buff next patch
icy mulch
We'll get a paragraph or two, which will most likely be the same drivel we got in 11.1.5
vague ore
will slayer be decent in keys after the buffs?
flat willow
ret 13.0 rework
icy mulch
No
spiral coral
will slayer be decent in keys after the buffs?
I’m going to do my best to make it work.
flat willow
depends on what you call decent
vague ore
depends on what you call decent
then I guess that's a no
spiral coral
Don’t listen to them they hate warrior
vague ore
it's never been more over
flat willow
I do hate warrior
hollow plover
ret 13.0 rework
ret just got a rework during anniversary patch
flat willow
it's in my name
minor gust
just because it wont be better than colossus doesnt mean you cant play it
flat willow
ret just got a rework during anniversary patch
and they'll get another
spiral coral
it's never been more over
hollow plover
idk might just be me but i fucking hate these bladestorm changes
icy mulch
ret just got a rework during anniversary patch
Hasn't stopped them before 
hollow plover
and dont get me started on reap buffs
flat willow
and 12.1.5 ret rework
hollow plover
rng fiesta
spiral coral
If Mike The Situation can make it, so can Warrior
BLADESTORRRRM TIIIIIIME
I got four days to brick my own keys getting used to Slayer in m+ for the new buff that’s probably not going to be superior to colossus but I don’t really have anything better to do
And just want something new
flat willow
I respect the hustle
icy mulch
rng fiesta
If our RNG hit as hard as DK or Ret's, we might be on to something. lol
shadow ibex
BS buff after nerfing it no reason s1
hollow plover
If our RNG hit as hard as DK or Ret's, we might be on to something. lol
buff that shit by 500% then
shadow ibex
Kinda like the cs change about time
spiral coral
BS buff after nerfing it no reason s1
spiral coral
Could be worse
hollow plover
hits 20% reap proc
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM DOING DAAAAAMN
doesn't hit 20% reap proc
potent creek
Could be worse
flat willow
they keep adding little things like that
minor gust
>hits 20% reap proc
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM DOING DAAAAAMN
>doesn't hit 20% reap...
get more targets to hit with cleave then noob
flat willow
almost like parry is 20 years old piece of shit mechanic that has no place in retail
hollow plover
get more targets to hit with cleave then noob
flat willow
maybe bosses should be able to parry spells
shadow ibex
Slayer aoe makes no sense to me
hollow plover
Slayer aoe makes no sense to me
it doesnt exist
hollow plover
go cleave but also go execute 1 target but also slayer strikes only hit main target but also bladestorm needs executes to be cast but also mortal strike is the actual reap aoe but also press this and that and fuck you blizzard
shadow ibex
go cleave but also go execute 1 target but also slayer strikes only hit main tar...
I'm not even talking about the tuning yea
Just how it's put together
vast surge
Give us the fury version of bladestorm!
flat willow
when I first heard about slayer and colossus I thought slayer would be the aoe spec with it being tied to bladestorm and blademasters
hollow plover
i'd argue its not put together
vast surge
Also I still hate demolish
hollow plover
they very intentionally made colossus and thane aoe, while slayer is ST
tardy hare
They should just revert the execute nerf
tender ermine
go cleave but also go execute 1 target but also slayer strikes only hit main tar...
Lmao when you put it like that 🤣
spiral coral
Also I still hate demolish
I wouldn’t hate it if it wasn’t so awkward
Wait I have to stand still?
shadow ibex
SD clap is waiting for them right ther
spiral coral
Why?
vast surge
I wouldn’t hate it if it wasn’t so awkward
But it is so awkward
shadow ibex
they very intentionally made colossus and thane aoe, while slayer is ST
I mean colossus can still do st is the thing
Like colossus st makes sense. It's aoe makes sense. Slayer st does
hollow plover
I mean colossus can still do st is the thing
its very far behind in raid ST
shadow ibex
Slayer aoe is a head scratcher
hollow plover
by design I think
shadow ibex
It's very playable in some encounters
fresh spire
Slayer aoe is a head scratcher
Cleave>Overpower(Opportunist/Dn)>Ms
fresh spire
playing slayer in keys feels fine. Just its damage was low end
flat willow
🧠
shadow ibex
Cleave>Overpower(Opportunist/Dn)>Ms
That's just colossus aoe but ms moved
fresh spire
Reap ofc has RNG to it but more you pull the more you roll that 20%
minor gust
playing slayer in keys feels fine. Just its damage was low end
I hated slayer in low keys then I started playing it in higher keys for fun and it doesnt feel bad
its a nice fresh breath from demolish
minor gust
yee
hollow plover
Reap ofc has RNG to it but more you pull the more you roll that 20%
i love when my aoe depends on 20%
vast surge
Slayer could always be tweaked to have a talent that makes SD procs sweep the execute to 5 targets
minor gust
i love when my aoe depends on 20%
brother you have 0 idea how reap works
hollow plover
i do
fresh spire
shadow ibex
Using SD procs in aoe sounds like the absolute least fun thing I've ever heard of
shadow ibex
Ngl
minor gust
Using SD procs in aoe sounds like the absolute least fun thing I've ever heard o...
eh you dont feel it cuz ur pressing it inbetween cleave cds
vast surge
Yeah
fresh spire
Feel the issue more for SD is the ease to forget to press it in aoe
would be cleaner if execute also was tied to reap
in both arms and fury
minor gust
yeah I only consumed SD procs if I had slayer marks on the target
vast surge
Feel the issue more for SD is the ease to forget to press it in aoe
That’s why when I get an SD, tell me when dings at me.
fresh spire
Prio for SD is a little tiny difference for aoe just being high prio when MFE fully stacked or just after x buttons when a stack is up etc
shadow ibex
They should have made BS proc reap every tick when hitting X targets
flat willow
Using SD procs in aoe sounds like the absolute least fun thing I've ever heard o...
just need the right tier set
shadow ibex
Or have a chance to
flat willow
vast surge
On the upside at least we got patch notes. Rogues got fuck all.
shadow ibex
If bs caused reap you could then guarantee ok on this pull ill have burst wit them
minor gust
yeah the rogue player in my M+ grp is super upset
shadow ibex
Cuz ik I'm gonna get at least 7 procs
minor gust
another patch another ignored sub rogue
kind thunder
just need the right tier set
bliss
fresh spire
another patch another ignored sub rogue
fresh spire
rogues issues are more set/talent based than tuning
eager nexus
Rogues? You mean single minded fury
flat willow
rogues issue is also being unplayable if you aren't a night elf
which brings us to
delete shadowmeld
minor gust
rogues issue is also being unplayable if you aren't a night elf
not true but ok
regal wharf
rogues issue is also being unplayable if you aren't a night elf
?
dude
im a human rogue main
flat willow
rip you
regal wharf
i dont wanna use a racial in my rotation
shut hound
does this talent actually change ur rotation at all
regal wharf
im good dude
flat willow
that "racial" is vanish
regal wharf
ok
vast surge
well ass doesnt need the buffs lmao
I know but I feel bad for the other rogue specs. Ass fun as hell.
I play arms in keys and I’m sweating my ass off to pump on ass rogue I’m just chilling. Like it’s a walk in the park.
flat willow
you don't like vanish?
regal wharf
i do
shadow ibex
Yea you use opportunist
flat willow
ok ok the night elves keep vanish
what about a new race
that has blink has a racial
I mean if night elves can have the signature rogue ability has a racial
shut hound
Yea you use opportunist
u prio consuming this proc over pressing MS or Execute?
vast surge
I play NE but it’s not shadowmeld. I just think NEs are hot AF best abs in the game.
Hahaha
minor gust
I mean if night elves can have the signature rogue ability has a racial
something they have always had and has never been a problem and continues to not be a problem
flat willow
I didn't know that was how this worked
" it existed in the past "
" so it must continue to exist now and forever "
minor gust
you didnt even read the 2nd half of my sentence
flat willow
what race do you play
flat willow
it's called a hyperbole
it's like saying " pvp was unplayable as a non human from wotlk to wod "
ofc people still played other races
it just was a handicap for no reason
minor gust
so whats your point then because shadowmeld is good is it broken no not even close
kind thunder
i mean unless patched nelf is insanely good for rogues, u get free crackshot reset on law and free shrouded suffocation/carnage on sin
flat willow
it's either you play night elf for the skin, in which case you don't care if shadowmeld gets replaced by another racial
or you play night elf for shadowmeld, in which case 
kind thunder
aside from being an immune if done right and a skip tool on pve
minor gust
if it was insanely good you would see more nelf rogues but you dont most rogues are dwarf or maghar orcs
sudden fox
i mean unless patched nelf is insanely good for rogues, u get free crackshot res...
Only if you get the restealth after
Nelf isnt that good
minor gust
nelf is good for high threat specs like warrior
kind thunder
Only if you get the restealth after
u can macro em together and get the restealth the racial is ogcd
vast surge
Yeah, shadowmeld is more a defensive tool imo than an offensive one for rogues
sudden fox
You can but its still negligble
shadow ibex
Technically orc racial makes some pvp set ups impossible cuz stun duration it's better than any racial in game vs rogue
kind thunder
You can but its still negligble
crackshot is the core of outlaw and indicrimante carnage is the only aoe u have as sin, if ur tank chain pulls it literally means u can do dmg
flat willow
in pvp the higher the rating the more night elves there are
orcs is still pretty good tho
orc is 2nd or 3rd best pvp race
fighting with human
minor gust
crackshot is the core of outlaw and indicrimante carnage is the only aoe u have ...
thats a low key pug problem that no one cares about
kind thunder
sudden fox
crackshot is the core of outlaw and indicrimante carnage is the only aoe u have ...
You still do damage lol, just takes a bit longer to ramp up
vast surge
As an ass rogue you hold vanish charges for chain pulling and even if you’re out of vanish all you need to do is setup 5 ruptures the go into the crimson tempest
flat willow
set up 5 ruptures without vanish
sudden fox
This is not current lol
kind thunder
This is not current lol
yeah i photoshopped it just now
vast surge
Its how the class works
sudden fox
Welcome to sin rogue
shadow ibex
I was gonna alt rogue but the aoe seems like the most cringe shit
flat willow
clearly the class isn't designed to work like that
shadow ibex
It sounds like a dot class
minor gust
any real key the tank knows to play around an ass rogue
vast surge
any real key the tank knows to play around an ass rogue
This
sudden fox
Its entirely dependent on your tank
vast surge
I’ve never had much issue tbh
minor gust
thats why most of the top rogue are not playing nelf cuz its not necessary. most are dwarfs or orcs
@fresh spire what do you think about blademasters for more cleaves more reaps
silver lintel
Good evening, what’s the current thoughts on bladestorm change? Any chance it replaces ravager for m+ build?
shadow ibex
I highly doubt it affects colossus
shadow ibex
<@140264255302664192> what do you think about blademasters for more cleaves more...
I'm surprised slayer didn't already play bm to try and squeeze out a bit more aos
minor gust
I'm surprised slayer didn't already play bm to try and squeeze out a bit more ao...
I mean no one is playing slayer sooo
minor gust
rise my reap rise
serene hollow
rise my reap rise
Top 0.01% rng right there
minor gust
tell me you have no idea how reap works without telling me
slim iron
Fury meta now or arms beyter?
serene hollow
It... Procs off of cleave and mortal strike.
Tell me there's more to it
Pls I beg
0.01 may be slightly hyperbolic
minor gust
more targets more chance to proc reap
minor gust
thats not what he was saying
shadow ibex
like thats not something youre actively doing
ik just saying it doesnt matter if it works better with more targets
cleaveis your only aoe button anyway
you are going to press it
serene hollow
Is that not good rng?
minor gust
at a certain point its not rng
serene hollow
At a certain point it definitely is
minor gust
your getting reap procs every cleave cast
shadow ibex
its not something you have any control over
minor gust
the screenshot was of a massive pull dude claimed reap was only that high due to rng which isnt really the case
serene hollow
How do I know the pull size
minor gust
then why you typing that if you dont know?
minor gust
serene hollow
balmy kindle
Battle lord slayer viable now in m+ ?
nova marsh
Battle lord slayer viable now in m+ ?<:keks:936231610850897992>
it is with the new one button rota
narrow panther
soooooooo with the huge 30% bladestorm Buff we topping the charts now fellow Warriors right, RIGHT?
runic urchin
genuinely though do we run bladestorm in m+ with these buffs?
minor gust
with colossus no
narrow panther
cant use Demolish or Cleave during Bladestorm, sooooooo no
runic urchin
makes sense, im not maining warrior this tier for the first time since bfa so im out of the loop
nova marsh
Slayer dosen't exist
runic urchin
is demolish just the best button on the planet or what? i feel like im deleting things with it when i do play my warrior
narrow panther
get 10 stacks fast and u feel like a god with Demolish yeah. Its a feelgood moment.
nova marsh
is demolish just the best button on the planet or what? i feel like im deleting ...
+It's creamy goodness
runic urchin
it does feel very good to press
does not feel good when your ADHD chinese veng dh moves the mobs away and breaks the cast halfway through
nova marsh
Play with prot paladins instead
vast surge
Brother's in arms which keys can I prestack collateral damage ?
finite wasp
well guys after this tuning im probably gonna reroll ret. pretty cringe how they always ignore warrior
minor gust
finite wasp
and even then this wont make a big diff on st eta gg
nova marsh
well guys after this tuning im probably gonna reroll ret. pretty cringe how they...
reroll DK
Reroll to literally anything else.A much better fate then becoming one with the sea of pink
finite wasp
Reroll to literally anything else.A much better fate then becoming one with the ...
you know what your right
i need to not sumbit in being a pink little bitch and go another gigachad class
nova marsh
Genuinely like
If ret was half the popularity it is atm
I'd say hell yeah
BUt as is it's basically unplayable in pugs because signing up for evrey key is 3 other rets....or other paladins
snow flame
pale mantle
is just me
or arms fells rng based af ?
there is little to no down time, sudden death proccing, opportunity etc... but there is times that I just keep hitting slam
dump I my rage in slam
and nothing happens haha
minor gust
been heavily rng dependent for awhile now
smoky kayak
Rets buff was more of a ST/boss one
the Slayer changes were analogous to the Herald buffs Ret got last time around - a boost for the underperforming (in M+) hero spec
slow saddle
Isnt ret st allready on par with arms m+ spec?
tawdry cradle
Hey guess I have a question:
What are the strengths of arms Warriors?
I know they have strong 2 target cleave
But is their strength funnel? Cleave? ST? AoE?
minor gust
Isnt ret st allready on par with arms m+ spec?
the ST was aimed at raid not M+
slow saddle
the ST was aimed at raid not M+
For both? Last time i checked ret uses those in both where as arms only uses in raid?
minor gust
your mistake is thinking blizz cares if they buff a spec thats already good in M+
feral just got an aura buff
M+ is as after thought raid comes first
pale mantle
been heavily rng dependent for awhile now
but is normal to go from 130 to 0 rage
only on slam ?
hahhaaha
and 1 mortal striket
and nothing procs
minor gust
its rng
stone marsh
Slayer viable in M+ again?
slow saddle
your mistake is thinking blizz cares if they buff a spec thats already good in M...
True😅
Well heck at least its something
queen garden
Slayer viable in M+ again?
very unlikely , 30% on bs and reap the storm will have minimal impact.
Slayer has very weak sustained aoe dmg due not having any cleave modifier.
Sure it could compensate having stronger ST but you still need to pick execute talents for that and so further subtracting aoe potential.
slow saddle
I mean slayer arms does not work in keys unless juggernaut is chsnged
stone marsh
very unlikely , 30% on bs and reap the storm will have minimal impact.
Slayer h...
Sadge
tacit crystal
@magic canopy I DCD AND CANT LOGIN
magic canopy
goober
minor gust
<@110993922691477504> I DCD AND CANT LOGIN
tsk tsk tsk
tacit crystal
me when 3 warrior mains arent playing warrior in a key
minor gust
minor gust
hopefully Blizz is having a conversation about target caps for next tier
it just doesnt work
white hedge
A few questions for aoe m+
Do i build up stacks for the initial demo or just send it
Do i hold ravager for collateral damage or just send it on cd with sweeping strike
Must i always ALWAYS demo with sweeping strike or i can just demo freely
Say i have warbreaker on 10-15 sec cd
Do i filler till it comes of cd for demo/collateral cleave
And this one is a noob question
Between a proc of overpower and ms
Overpower is better even tho im rage capped?
tacit crystal
A few questions for aoe m+
Do i build up stacks for the initial demo or just sen...
charge cleave tc roar ss rav ava cs build to 10 force demo at 10 or if cs duration approaching 2s
you hold ravager for cs, can send eithout if high collat stacks
you should try to ss with demo since the first 2 hits give stacks for collat
and i dont understand your last 2 questions
@white hedge
pale mantle
He asked if is better to press overpower with opportunist over mortal strike even if he have 130 rage
meaning he would waste rage
minor gust
rage isnt real follow the priority
pale mantle
rage isnt real follow the priority
haha say by yourself, I tired of being raged starved by pressing slam 5 times in a row and getting nothing
tacit crystal
He asked if is better to press overpower with opportunist over mortal strike eve...
he said m+ with colo
white hedge
Ah ye big thanks
Ok fuck me ive p
Been sending demo on pull
tacit crystal
so that's not possible
white hedge
I have over capped rage quite abit
I used the op gives 8 more rage on 35% due to rage starving
tacit crystal
rage isnt real follow the priority
can you help fund my race change
pale mantle
ha
tacit crystal
i need a loan
pale mantle
so what proc is talking about ?
white hedge
But with it now im wasting rage
pale mantle
hahaah
minor gust
can you help fund my race change
I would If I wasnt broke
and only if you were swapping to nelf
tacit crystal
i want to swap to velf for mug
white hedge
Overpower proc
Tactician? Opportunity something
tacit crystal
to not get aids
minor gust
ah
tacit crystal
so that doesnt make sense
tacit crystal
bc you dont have that talent with colo
tacit crystal
im not race swapping for 1 boss
its more damage anyways
minor gust
yeah but shadowmeld
tacit crystal
and im tired of nelf for now i think
minor gust
me like it
minor gust
F
white hedge
Wait i dont?
Em fuck me im thinking about something else that resets op then mb
minor gust
its ok come do some slayer keys with me next week
white hedge
Ms over op yea?
tacit crystal
yea
white hedge
3q3q
tacit crystal
its ok come do some slayer keys with me next week
im going to spend thsi weekend boosting to get gold
gg
omg bozo
a turbo banger came on
minor gust
ive been perma listening to the expedition 33 ost for the last week now
white hedge
Do i hold warbreaker for collateral/demo if my warbreaker is 10-15 seconds away (not including anger management),
tacit crystal
prob not going to play that anytime soon
how can you hold cs for collat demo if nots up?
white hedge
Sorry sorry
Hold FOR warbreaker
I got collateral/demo
Warbreaker is coming up soonish
minor gust
10 sec or less you can hold collateral for cds no hard rule on this its all feeling and whats going on in your current situation
white hedge
Mm oke
Big danks
mint turtle
charge cleave tc roar ss rav ava cs build to 10 force demo at 10 or if cs durati...
QQ from me; in critcakes 17 DFC, in his first big pull he only SS first and when he got Collateral, sent full CDs, is this different to what you say here? I'm a newbie too
minor gust
its a specific thing you can do depending on the dungeon the pulll and the tank you have and the key level most imporantly
hes pre stacking collateral while the mobs are grouping
so he has collateral in his cd window
mint turtle
Ah so basically assess it, I'm guessing higher keys big pulls last longer hence why this works as he does it a number of times
minor gust
and if its safe to do so depending on your tank
a lot of tanks are struggling with threat especially while pulling
mint turtle
What if the pack is grouped together but still last longer, i.e +15, would it still be worth doing it then? Or just normal rotation?
I generally don't try to hit anything when tank gathering
minor gust
its a very difficult thing to determine and requires a lot of experience doing high keys, You really only wanna aim to do if your doing it while gathering the mobs because you dont want to delay using cds for long because a lot of the times especially on higher keys you will have multiple uses on things like WB and Demo.
one thing you can do instead which is also really important is building a collateral for the next pull while the current pack is dying
mint turtle
Okay that makes sense, thanks for your help! Really appreciate it
minor gust
yeah its not easy to figure out as a lot of high end arms min maxing is all about collateral usage but thats really only relevant as you do 15 or 16+ keys
mint turtle
Ok cool, yeah managed to do my first 15 yesterday but my damage is consistently behind others so trying to figure out how the top arms players are blasting so hard
minor gust
yeah its not easy as some people think Crit and Biz are also legendary gamers so they make it look like its very simple
mint turtle
Yeah I saw biz prestack and open on first pack of motherloade with an 87m cleave lmao
minor gust
I tend to only prestack if I have DBTS or meld available to make sure I dont have any threat accidents
shut hound
in raid, slayer obvs, the icy veins prio says u prio Opportunist OP over MS
is that actually true, u just always use OP insta if it resets?
or should i be using another guide
eager sigil
not every op reset is opportunist but yea
whole steppe
What do you think about BS %30 Buff, are we gonna play BS on M+ ??
swift crown
Wat
swift crown
How is not every OP reset Opportunist
whole steppe
lol
swift crown
What do you think about BS %30 Buff, are we gonna play BS on M+ ??
Not as Colossus
Bladestorm sucks mechanically
shut hound
prioing op resets feels so weird lmao
shut hound
apparently
whole steppe
what about aoe?
shut hound
uh idk im just talkin about a slayer thing which i only do for raid so the most AoE i do is sweeping strikes lol
or thunderclap to spread rends
swift crown
Yea just do yourself the favour and don't play Slayer in keys
And you never have to think about this
slow saddle
Slayer in keys is worse
Coz u gotta play execute talents. And those are horrid in keys
#makejuggernaut dissapear
swift crown
We hate Jugg
slow saddle
It has no upside
Unless u get tuned poorly so 15 stacks do way to much dmg
Naked executes should fuck
minor gust
Coz u gotta play execute talents. And those are horrid in keys
you dont have to play execute talents
Slayer is about SD not execute theres nothing about it forcing you into jugg and CT
you can very much and should play a Blord variant if you want to do slayer keys
white storm
for how much haste do you guys aim as colossus?
minor gust
however much the robot tells me to have when I Top Gear sim
white storm
yeah, i do that too. but something like 13% haste just feels shit
minor gust
colossus AOE sims tend to not favor haste a lot but I dont like playing with low haste either so I Ignore it and prio ST sims which does like more haste
sacred zodiac
Longer duration
And you still drop them
swift crown
And you still drop them
This is true but dropping them is a lot less bad
halcyon breach
And you still drop them
slow saddle
Slayer is about SD not execute theres nothing about it forcing you into jugg and...
True true, but i do feel ideally slayer wants to lean into its strength. But its prob not worth it in m+
slow saddle
colossus AOE sims tend to not favor haste a lot but I dont like playing with low...
100% more fun to have haste
minor gust
sure if Jugg was good and easy to play around like it was in S3 of DF but its not unfortunately
slow saddle
Didnt even smoke bosses as much as i thought
minor gust
because execute/jugg sucks and requires bosses to be sub 35% for awhile to feel good
minor gust
replace jugg with that tier set
slow saddle
100%
minor gust
would be a great day if that happened
slow saddle
Ive said that since
minor gust
man before Slayer was released I was so certain that tier set would be in there
its such a lay up easy talent
slow saddle
Arms overall would be better if sd was almost always press now button
minor gust
but nah still have yet to see that tier set comeback as a talent option
minor gust
Arms overall would be better if sd was almost always press now button
100% man procs should feel good to get and make you want to immediatly press it
slow saddle
Oppertunist does this
minor gust
I should not have to pay attention to 3 different conditionals on when to use my SD proc or rely on a WA
slow saddle
Even if ppl hate on it
minor gust
I just hate OPP because my Brain is so wired to do MS on cd that OPP fucks my head
and I take psychic damage
slow saddle
Ngl same🤣
rare kite
Arms overall would be better if sd was almost always press now button
i know it's not exactly the same, but that was how it was in legion with colossus smash. you press that shit whenever you can. was basically a whack a mole spec
most fun i've had ever
daring heron
slow saddle
That or i want steady eddy ( s2 sl arms)
rare kite
downside of legion arms was the mastery tho. it did no damage without cs. but just swap the masteries then you have the perfect spec
rare kite
<:yep:703420923625078804>
you could smell the legion conversation. INSTANT reply
rare kite
45 sec cs cd that can reset at any time
cd was irrelevant. never anywhere near 45 sec cd
not even close
eager sigil
first patch it was
slow saddle
Always felt good to push
eager sigil
it's like me saying "op 12 second cd"
its like me saying cs parry is fine because it doesnt always happen
slow saddle
Or just remove the free part
minor gust
remember in DF when you would get reck on CS cast making casting CS actually feel good I member
rare kite
Also sd should count towards am
definetely should. tho lowkey scared it would make ToM better, but just remove ToM
slow saddle
definetely should. tho lowkey scared it would make ToM better, but just remove T...
100% tom gone is bis gameplay
minor gust
remember when they did this rage revamp because we were getting to much rage in DF just for us still completely ignore rage in TWW
good times
rare kite
its like me saying cs parry is fine because it doesnt always happen
what a ridiculous comparison
minor gust
instead of just giving us a way to spend that rage
rare kite
if you think they are remotely compareable i have no interest in this conversation.
slow saddle
instead of just giving us a way to spend that rage
Sd procs not being free would help
Also cs rage spikes where to high
But the nerfed 25% on evert cs would be a non issie
Issue
eager sigil
if you think they are remotely compareable i have no interest in this conversati...
just saying theres a reason tactician no longer resets cs
minor gust
Also cs rage spikes where to high
I can agree but I woulda rather the solution be give us more ways to spend that rage appropriately or I woulda also taken the reck rage gen nerf on warlords. Even with the rage gen nerf it still woulda kept that good feeling when you pressed CS
slow saddle
Thats what i meant
minor gust
yeah
slow saddle
With regen nerf it would be fine now
minor gust
but unfortunatly right now it wouldnt matter
rare kite
just saying theres a reason tactician no longer resets cs
ehh. plenty of good things have been removed in WoW history, cs reset itself is more than fine. mastery being the way it was in legion is not fine
minor gust
because we dont care about rage
rare kite
look at cs resets in cata for example. still very satisfying but no mastery that makes you do no damage without it
eager sigil
ehh. plenty of good things have been removed in WoW history, cs reset itself is ...
i think its problematic the same way jugg is rn
just mega rng if you do dam or not
minor gust
you would only feel warlords on CS again in TWW for execute phase thats it
rare kite
i think its problematic the same way jugg is rn
yes and that is mostly coz of legion mastery. also i would rather have a proccy spec that spends its procs immideately, rather than hold for a maintenance buff. sure legion arms could be pretty rng, but maan do the procs feel good! you press cs asap to buff ms/exe
austere river
@smoky kayak on updates you talked about slayer tuning but those are Arms and fury buffs general not slayer specific, im just thinking that if the buff to bladestorm is enough to make it competitive vs ravager builds on colossus m+
shut hound
say CS is off CD but avatar is coming off CD in ~5 to 10 seconds, do I hold CS for ava? (single target slayer pov question)
minor gust
<@61282228017041408> on updates you talked about slayer tuning but those are Arm...
Reap buff is slayer specific only non slayer specific buff is Bladestorm which Bladestorm is counter intuitive to how colossus wants to play you will never play bladestorm with colossus
eager sigil
say CS is off CD but avatar is coming off CD in ~5 to 10 seconds, do I hold CS f...
kinda depends if holding avatar would lose you a use of it
austere river
Reap buff is slayer specific only non slayer specific buff is Bladestorm which B...
i think its too far to say "bladestorm is counter intuitive and they will never play bladestorm" as we are seeing that even ravager is viable on slayer which most definatelly is counter intuitive as it revolves around bladestorm itself
minor gust
you cant cast anything in bladestorm you can cast while ravager is going
slow saddle
No
minor gust
theres no reason to use BS as colossus
austere river
on colossus there is nothing that restricts its loop to ravager, its just numbers game
minor gust
yeah the numbers is the penalty you get for sitting afk in bladestorm
Bladestorm would require a massive massive buff and it would need to turn into fury bladestorm where its quicker for colossus to ever think about it
minor gust
you lose an absurd amount of damage for casting bladestorm thats why ravager slayer was a thing because you can continue to use your skills while ravager is down
while bladestorm you can not
austere river
yes i understand the benefits of the ravager, but i also understand that when they buff bladestorm, at some point it is a valid option, and my question here for archi was that how close does it bring that cap now 😄
simple "you cant cast skills while at bladestorm" does not make it counter intuitive
slow saddle
Ravager is still choice for execute in slayer due to this
minor gust
well when you wanna spend your time pressing cleave its pretty counter intuitive
shut hound
kinda depends if holding avatar would lose you a use of it
well im asking if I hold CS for avatar, not avatar for CS
slow saddle
Its the 1 reasons slayer arms feels bad in raid
No u send cs unless its stupidly close
minor gust
yes i understand the benefits of the ravager, but i also understand that when th...
im sure if Archi feels like it when he wakes up he can give you a sim number, just letting you know the buff does not make BS viable for colossus, and BS would require some insane things for it to be competitive with ravager
slow saddle
Also would never understand why u would want to unless we got fury bs
minor gust
well im asking if I hold CS for avatar, not avatar for CS
Never hold CS always hold ava for CS unless as Arks said if thats your last avatar cast of the fight
austere river
i would most definatelly prefer playing bs if the tuning for it would not lose out much
minor gust
why not just play slayer in keys then
austere river
because i prefer colossus
minor gust
fair
sturdy hearth
because hitting dem demolish crit is satisfying af
shut hound
Never hold CS always hold ava for CS unless as Arks said if thats your last avat...
ty MeltedGenius
minor gust
minor kraken
Ravager is still choice for execute in slayer due to this
Is Ravager still ahead of BS during execute post buff?
eager sigil
Is Ravager still ahead of BS during execute post buff?
doubt it
oh during execute
yea it probably still is there
minor gust
Would be a Fishy, Walhe, Archi question
eager sigil
the 🤓
minor gust
The robot oracles
shut hound
for fun, can someone give me a slayer m+ build (im masochistic)
shut hound
bet ty
pure otter
question, how much crit everyone sitting at?
shut hound
why don't people play battlelord in raid
minor gust
simply a numbers game thats it
zenith warren
Arms on bandit doesnt need to swap to adds, right?
eager sigil
you should
minor gust
adds is the whole fight you should be cleaving off them onto the boss
eager sigil
the faster those adds die the less raid damage you take
shut hound
when did sudden death start stacking btw, is that new with TWW?
eager sigil
so kill them as fast as you can
minor gust
when did sudden death start stacking btw, is that new with TWW?
yes
shut hound
do u think we would play juggernaut if sudden death didn't stack, might be a dumb nothing question, just curious on thoughts
sacred zodiac
you sweep off of the reel assistants and if you're colossus you can make a demo hit the box adds maybe
minor gust
its pretty safe to demo and it half the bomb adds if the one thats fixated on you is in the back but if its one of the ones up front yeah GL getting a demo off
slow saddle
Ive got a q on stix. I wanna prog as arms coz why not. Collosus would it be worth playing with battlelord. Does it do the same as oab
Or should i just give up and play thane
eager sigil
i tried it as arms on reclear yesterday and it felt very bad imo
maybe my timings were shit
but stuff rarely is stacked enough to get good value
sturdy hearth
problem is it's pretty hard to get full value of colossus on Stix as adds will be most likely coming at random timings, being destacked
Your Demolish/cleave are not going to hit many adds imo, with thane you don't have much of this issue
idle ermine
hey guys, why is nelf the most popular arms race?
idle ermine
for shadowmeld?
minor gust
looks good and meld
minor gust
aggro and the utillity of breaking some mechanics
sacred zodiac
only for pack skips or melding dungeon mechanics rn
idle ermine
makes sense, ty guys
sacred zodiac
but theres not too much of either rn afaik
minor gust
my life has been saved countless times shadowmelding as a threat drop
sacred zodiac
just pick what race you think is coolest
minor gust
but theres not too much of either rn afaik
theres a decent amount but nothing super crazy
eager sigil
my life has been saved countless times shadowmelding as a threat drop
same after endangering myself by going in too early
eager nexus
Void elf is master race
candid pecan
damn bois time to go ret
nope
rather quit than swap off warrior
but thats just me
smoky kayak
i think its too far to say "bladestorm is counter intuitive and they will never ...
It’s a lot easier to make Ravager viable in place of BS than the other way around, though ain’t actually all that viable anymore
lunar remnant
I just don’t get how they get buffs and or reworks like every patch
candid pecan
afaik Ret paladin is the most popular spec
also a very versatile class, you can tank/heal/dps
minor gust
It’s a lot easier to make Ravager viable in place of BS than the other way aroun...
Ravager Slayer in execute is probably dead now right? Or is ravager still a gain in execute.
I'ma be real sad if I'm gonna miss the ravager Slayer Mugzee train because we suck and are still progging OAB
tacit crystal
ya that shit prob dead
tacit crystal
i think the gain before execute is too big now
but it might still be worth if you are playing for kill and not parse
minor gust
Shouldn't matter on a fight like Mugzee when your heroing in execute and the only important part of the fight is the end
minor gust
Arms is already afk till 35% might as well afk a lil harder
tacit crystal
spiral coral
rather quit than swap off warrior
shadow ibex
Probably better to use fatality if you want more p2 dmg not ravager
tacit crystal
minor gust
Probably but then I would have to use fatality
That talent still dog shit since CDs affect it
sacred zodiac
oh i should probs stop playing fatality post prog hmmge
shadow ibex
If you are after more p2 it is probably the only change you can do after the bs buff
candid pecan
Op>Ms>Op>Ms> SWING sound, SD>Op>Ms 
thick kelp
Reset MS but idc I need to op anyway
better than pressing slam
candid pecan
if you get unlucky with procs and have to press slam 3 times in a row... jsut step into fire
shadow ibex
better than pressing slam
Yea I think my beef is is that
You have no other st gains to take
Gotta spend a point to get to capstones but the only thing left to take is sweeping and cleave
tacit crystal
better than pressing slam
gm walhe
shadow ibex
if you get unlucky with procs and have to press slam 3 times in a row... jsut st...
Already slamming 3 times cuz I can't use this SD proc cuz I gotta extend
That's also having 0 deft tho cuz fatal takes that point
So less op chance
minor gust
what did you get on sprocket
Parse wise?
minor gust
Sprocket pissed me off because we had a 1% wipe and I was cranking woulda been a 99 rank 3 then we killed it next pull with 2 people alive and I got an 82
minor gust
My prog kills if I don't die are usually purple or orange
shadow ibex
I think a guaranteed way to proc tact with slamming could be cool. That's honestly what I miss most about IP was at will generate an proc
Problem was p much used it on cd not in any intelligent way
And it was defensive
minor gust
I didn't mind IP gameplay at all but I understand why a lot of people thought it was cringe
Was nice removing slam off my bars and only using IP or TC
shadow ibex
I think being able to drop rage off gcd was awesome
shadow ibex
I really like playing with rage tho. I like charge weaving and having a swing timer and this ability over 80 rage instead of this one etc
flat willow
Swing timer and charge weaving is fine, even fun sometimes
Unless the boss has a fucked up hitbox
And you run for 2 seconds without being able to charge
minor gust
I think being able to drop rage off gcd was awesome
Same if we still had DF levels of rage I wouldn't mind having Cata heroic strike back but I get ppl hate off gcd shit like that
shadow ibex
Make it a talent
1% diff
Like opp vs whatever the fuck
If people want to subscribe to that playstyle let em
flat willow
Focused rage my beloved
When you think about it, combustion is just old recklessness
And fire blast is just heroic strike
I'm gonna main mage
minor gust
Hot take but at this point in TWW just remove rage
flat willow
And macro everything to pretend I'm playing warrior
flat willow
That's what I always said, rage without off gcd dump is either cosmetic or you are perma rage starved (bad end)
shadow ibex
If execute had a cooldown you wouldn't notice it being gone
flat willow
Rage without off gcd dump is poor man energy
shadow ibex
Rage I mean
minor gust
It's why warrior especially arms desperately needs an overhaul man. The spec is just so lost
shadow ibex
Yea
minor gust
That's what I always said, rage without off gcd dump is either cosmetic or you a...
100%
Doesn't have to be off gcd tho just need rage dumps like SOS WW in DF
Just like rampage for fury
We constantly complained all of DF we just needed better ways to spend the mass rage we got. But instead they did a rage rebalance in TWW that didn't really accomplish anything
shadow ibex
It changed nothing
minor gust
We lowered the amount of rage you guys generate but it's still completely cosmetic and doesn't matter and SOS is dead have fun!
weak rain
bring back df sks
and make it so sks buff the next MS to apply rend aswell(also make MS like CS, so it applies DW before the damage of MS, so it benefits from DW)
minor gust
Yeah kinda nuts that cleave and MS works that way but whatever
minor gust
Playing ret right now
tacit crystal
My prog kills if I don't die are usually purple or orange
i lost a lot of boss uptime due to movement
minor gust
🙂
minor gust
i lost a lot of boss uptime due to movement
Happens I hate the movement after first intermission when your switching sides to the other side of the room
tacit crystal
yeah
minor gust
Can be annoying with how much the boss likes to stand still and cast
tacit crystal
and when you go across there too
tacit crystal
already do bud
shadow ibex
So many things they've tried
minor gust
Same I really only play melee specs
shadow ibex
And I feel like this class still is the same kt was since bfa
The biggest change in the past 8 years was a hot fix to make cs not parry
weak rain
"bug" fix
shadow ibex
And iftk matching cs
minor gust
shadow ibex
If someone last played this game in bfa play warrior now
Keep ms on cd press op procs
True now true then
weak rain
nah, this iteration is more like SL
press op press ms
bfa you cared a lot about spending rage
minor gust
Clearly let's just go back to the start of DF when we ignored OP and spammed slam
Good times
shadow ibex
Bfa didn't care about rage really
We were using ww to dumb rage instead of slam cuz it cost more
It's been bad for years. They've tried every time and it's the same. How many times our class tree has changed since df launch
Still the same shit only I must take Shockwave or bolt to get armored to teeth
tacit crystal
i think i found another group to do keys with
but idk they want to have me join their guild on my dk
zz
also
they somehwta tried to recruit me to raid with them
weak rain
We were using ww to dumb rage instead of slam cuz it cost more
yea, but fob didn't suck there
remove roar give mop bloodbath maybe
remove spear give blood of the enemy idk
tacit crystal
but like heres 0 chance im joining some rando guild same prog as current guild
tacit crystal
why would i ever join a guild with equal or worse prog
swift crown
idk
weak rain
i don't remember using it without fob
even of ilgynoth with massacre you would use slam
eager nexus
I wish they would have made less passive hero trees for us fr
south merlin
Bladestorm buffs for arms will only be relevant in raid right?
It won't take Ravager place in M+ colossus build?
candid pecan
only relevant for raid
it wont take ravagers place in M+ colossus build
it was buffed by 30% not 300%
south merlin
it was buffed by 30% not 300% <:ratge:890357732543168594>
Well this I know for sure just asking
stable steeple
Would be nice if it was at least a small % behind, I low key like to spin2win
shadow ibex
I wonder how much cs uptime changes as we get more gear
We can only spend so much rage
But haste helps ofc
It's at 50% atm
shadow ibex
Yea but also a shorter phase
I think last time I checked sim was at least 50% if not more
vagrant siren
tacit crystal
might as well be 0 because its not enough
tacit crystal
gm
tiny swan
How good is the Wowanalyzer? For M+ if it matters.
Its telling me to cleave more, but can't really see how I can fit more cleaves in.
Do people cleave as soon as there is 2 targets or more?
tiny swan
Oh ok, I've been trying to do it at 2+, but I still get the message:
Try to cast Cleave more often.
234 out of 610 possible casts. You kept it on cooldown 38% of the time. (>60% is recommended)
quaint otter
Analyzer is shit imo
tiny swan
This is the log I checked - I think my DPS is ok, but also think it could be higher:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qz49gmknN8AQWL16?fight=last&type=damage-done
tiny swan
Not sure how that parse works - people say its not to be trusted cause its against the same "bads" Ilvl - key etc
quaint otter
Yes the key level is not high but u did mostly good there
bright scarab
I'm finding that I'm not getting enough SD procs to keep my Juggernaut stacks, am I doing something wrong?
flat willow
that's how the spec is designed
bright scarab
Should I keep 2 charges of SD until I get 3 stacks of Mark of Executioner?
Really?
flat willow
yes, sometimes rng will screw you over and you'll lose your juggernaut even if you play perfectly
tacit crystal
you press execute at 2 sd 3 mfe jug falling sd falling
yeah
evrry pull
i greed until 1 global before
and i just lose
bright scarab
Every pull there's RNG with Arms then?
bright scarab
Wtf
quaint otter
and i just lose
🎰
eager sigil
Should I keep 2 charges of SD until I get 3 stacks of Mark of Executioner?
at 2 charges you send 1
flint ridge
Can you see inputlag in Logs?
weak rain
funny how double SD cd on CS/BS bug is not fixed
dim basalt
Every pull there's RNG with Arms then?
Oh you would be surprised how hard the dps of Arms can swing
dim basalt
Oh ok, I've been trying to do it at 2+, but I still get the message:
Try to cas...
I'm not sure if wowa is up to date for aoe
It recently got updates for ST but it is still maintained by a single guy atm
candid pecan
could you give me the talent string for slayer m+?
or is it the standard wowhead one?
shadow ibex
Jesus fuck I hope jugg dies
I think I would rather play something else than deal with jug in s3
stable fiber
Every pull there's RNG with Arms then?
some pulls i burst 6m dps on pull, others im at 3m
stable fiber
typically the RNG equalizes out though a bit
dim basalt
Still frustrating
Sometimes I comapre my logs to top logs and seeing that their MS did like 150k more dps with equal amount of casts is xd
dim basalt
tru
dull karma
Hey guys. Yesterday I realized that I’m simply terrible at arms but still wish to master the class, I opened a post with my logs of heroic raid from last night and if any feedback could be given, it would be most appreciated. It’s under the name “It’s seems I’ve lost my touch” thank you elders warriors 🙏🙏
grand lark
Hi everyone, I would like to know what are the best stats for warr arms
icy mulch
Typically Crit/haste. Ilvl being a more determinate thing. Either way, simming is the best answer.
sturdy wind
dose the bladestorm buff also buff ravanger?
grand lark
ok thanks the critic in what percentage?
shadow ibex
idk I want a full rework
I give up on a rework
Especially after they somehow convinced people the hero specs prio different stuff
Just ignore the fact they use the same exact talents
And have the same amount of MS resets
But yea sure one cares about ms resets more
tacit crystal
dose the bladestorm buff also buff ravanger?
no
shadow ibex
These hero specs that use the same st talents are so different
I assume same aoe but no one plays slayer
icy mulch
Hero talents are just a new way of having an excuse for ten more levels.
sturdy wind
folowup quesion is bladestorm going to be more viable than ravanager after the buff in m+
icy mulch
No
grizzled estuary
hey guys is it possible to build a WA that tracks a specific npc health please?
long story short i want to have a WA that tells me lightspawns health in PSF (so i can taunt it away if my tank is pepega)
sacred zodiac
having a focus macro would solve the same issue kind of
grizzled estuary
yea but i usually wanna focus smth else on these pulls
icy mulch
Unless you tell your tank what you're doing, it will most likely cause more issues.
grizzled estuary
iknow, but still im curious if thats a possible option with wago now
quasi torrent
having a focus macro would solve the same issue kind of
pivot shortcut 枢轴快捷方式 untold machinery 不为人知的机械 barge in rapidly
迅速闯入 adversary powerless 对手无能为力
void bay
pivot shortcut 枢轴快捷方式 untold machinery 不为人知的机械 barge in rapidly
迅速闯入 adversary...
Is that big mama.?
quasi torrent
Is that big mama.?
?
void bay
https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-look-confused-face-funny-funny-look-gif-4850532509577233362
golden ibex
With the buff to slayer, is there any chance it becomes good for m+`?
broken arrow
The WoW community is finally united in off-brand ninja turtle outfits
rose matrix
Is there a mechanic on the Candle King boss that requires you to move the boss away from molds?
Seem to get tanks that move the boss 10 yards away from them and out of melee every time I do it
sage badge
daring heron
LMAO
flat willow
10/10
kindred girder
Is there a mechanic on the Candle King boss that requires you to move the boss a...
Nope, just people who can't stand still
icy mulch
Puddles eventually despawn.
viral locust
I think this guy has you beat
void bay
I think this guy has you beat
Lmao... Amazing
zenith warren
how is mythic bandit atm? still much harder than sprocket or are adds non issue with current dps
dim basalt
how is mythic bandit atm? still much harder than sprocket or are adds non issue ...
Adds are not a problem but the boss is still harder
We got to like 54% after 60 pulls
Just another boss where people will randomly die and if you have 2-3 dead dps you won't kill adds
umbral merlin
!wa
severe haven
The WoW community is finally united in off-brand ninja turtle outfits
Chains on your wrists?? Can you give item list
broken arrow
Chains on your wrists?? Can you give item list
Salt-Stained Sweatcap, Heroic Half Shell, Stonebound Machinists Chain, Stonebound Machinists Wristchains, Stonebound Explorer's Cinch, Stonebound Artisan Kilt, Stonebound Machinists Anklewraps, Large Renaissance Katana, Breath of Yu'Lon weapon illusion 🫡
minor gust
could you give me the talent string for slayer m+?
I just used the blord one in the DPS FAQ section and the only change I made was swapping to blademasters