arms

[thin galleon]

yeah doesnt work like that anymore I'm just fricked by blizzard

[hollow plover]

then it's likely the fact that your shown ilvl isn't your actual average ilvl cause it tends to ignore offhands/shields in shown ilvl calculation

e.g. when i equip a 675 offhand as fury the shown ilvl is identical as if I was using 678 offhand

so i think you'll get it once u equipd 665 shield

🤔

[thin galleon]

I think the game is just fucked

[hollow plover]

always has been

[thin galleon]

cuz the wowhead post guy got the achieve at 674

with shield etc

[gray herald]

this is a thing but it's not this

2hs are straight up bugged for contribution

[thin galleon]

and his shield is also shit

[gray herald]

yeah some items just count for way less

one of my 2hs counts as 10 ilvl

[thin galleon]

Nah but my shield and weapon are the same ilvl as his in the screenshot

[hollow plover]

ah

[gray herald]

there's a lil script you can paste in game that shows the "ilvl" achieved in each slot

and because my "mainhandweapon" is 10 ilvl my overall is completely fucked

[thin galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-worm-cat-worm-catworm-ai-generated-gif-11758626355945811640

[gray herald]

thanks blizzard

[thin galleon]

literally higher achieved than archi

[daring heron]

tf is mainhand weapon

[thin galleon]

but still nothing

love this game

[gray herald]

i didnt make it to 675 (griefed crests last week)

unless my guild decides to give me kezan/jastor

[thin galleon]

I mean the fact that I am 677 with arms gear and 675 with shield/1h and still no achievement is actually criminal

[gray herald]

it's cursed

[thin galleon]

I wanted to send my crests on my DK

[hollow plover]

do /run local n=tInvert(Enum.ItemRedundancySlot),a;for i=0,16 do a = C_ItemUpgrade.GetHighWatermarkForSlot(i); if a < 675 then print(a, n[i]) end end

[thin galleon]

but guess not

[charred brook]

How lucky did you have to get to be 677

Jesus

Well actually nvm, I extended for last 3 weeks im dumb

[thin galleon]

only missing BiS mythic and mythic HoC

[gray herald]

fuck knows

[thin galleon]

got mythic jastor in vault today

[charred brook]

Yeah I forgot if I wasn’t extending I would’ve been a bit higher

Big dumb

[naive sage]

got mythic socket in vault today

[gray herald]

big mythic socket

same

[charred brook]

sameee

[gray herald]

(we also extendo)

[naive sage]

(we can't go past rik)

[hollow plover]

we been extending for like 5 or 6 IDs

Sadge

[gray herald]

but i would be 675 if I didnt send 30 crests into a myth ring i dont even use

👍

[naive sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/761040892970139649.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[gray herald]

and crafted one this week instead

[hollow plover]

i have too many trinkets i think

[gray herald]

i have no myth trinkets still

[patent stream]

you have too much luck i think xD

[hollow plover]

I have some of the worst gear in my guild 👍

[gray herald]

i'd consider like 3-4 of those "lucky"

at most depending on track

is it next reset we get a free item or the following

[patent stream]

next

[hollow plover]

in 2 weeks

march 13th/14th depending on EU/NA

[gray herald]

ok

[patent stream]

oh, im a week off then kek

[hollow plover]

weak

[patent stream]

what you mean?

[gray herald]

probably a myth bis insta take then

[iron vigil]

I got very rare back in vault, i have currently back and wrists embelishemnts. Is it worth to recraft back emb to belt considering myth track is gonna be higher in a few weeks?

[hollow plover]

crafted pieces are also going up by the same amount

so thats a non-factor

[gloomy mirage]

any big game knowers why ascension+writhing sims more than 2x duskthread/dawnthread for me

[hollow plover]

send sim

[gray herald]

i think thats' normal unless you have one of the cantrip weapons

oh wait was that fury

[thick kelp]

What weapon are u replacing your ascension wtih

[hollow plover]

my non-english speaking self doesnt comprehend that cantrip word, what's that

you talkin the rare items?

[lunar remnant]

Our raid saw house of cards twice and haven’t even gotten a H tier version in my vault yet 😤

[gray herald]

in dnd a 'cantrip' is like a small free spell

and this term has been used in wow for items with a small free bonus added to them

i.e. capital punisher or best in slots

[hollow plover]

thumb

thanks

[trail peak]

yo bois when you are pulling lots of mobs are you supposed to apply rend to all of them?

[thick kelp]

yes

[gray herald]

a negligible difference for me

[narrow dawn]

i think thats something

this belongs here

[gray herald]

sure is

[slow saddle]

Because acsension is big

[hollow plover]

thats an item

[slow saddle]

And dusk is kindda weak

[thick kelp]

simming dusk at 70% is weak

[hollow plover]

^

[gray herald]

that's a point it's only at default in my sim

i think my uptime was 80~ on our mugzee kill

[slow saddle]

I mean i miss better embellishments

Ngl

[gray herald]

best gally pull only 66% though

[slow saddle]

Longer fights acension pulls ahead

But 3ilvls on weapon carries dusk

Btw how do dks keep crying their way to the top of dmg?

Now they what top 5 dmg? Warriors droppin

I know its encounter based ofx but dang

[hollow plover]

yo lads serious question

how often do yall press impending during prog

I feel like i have to press that shii on cooldown on some bosses

[slow saddle]

Haha a lot

Its strong so idm

[hollow plover]

yea but when i look at my avg ret or dk mate

[thick kelp]

Too little

[hollow plover]

they dont press their self heal buttons

[gray herald]

arent their self heal buttons much more costly than ours

[slow saddle]

M8 dk is just suuper tanly with defensives

[thick kelp]

ds is like 30 rp

wog is 3 hp

[hollow plover]

impending is 10 rage

[gray herald]

yeah no way im pressing either of those

barely even notice 10 rage

[hollow plover]

you'd rather die?

[gray herald]

no but i'd guarantee that over prog i'd press a fuck lot more impending victorys than either of those

[hollow plover]

ig thats fair to some degree

yea

[naive sage]

IV is my comfort button when my health goes down

I would not feel safe if I didn’t press it

Considering how IP is tuned for DF S3

[hollow plover]

as fury i only feel the need to press IV when i make a mistake (e.g. standing in a swirly) but as arms im pressing that shit perma just like spell reflect

[naive sage]

Super easy fix
“Targets affected by your deep wounds deal 10% less damage to you”

[teal fossil]

Blizzard think avoidance is just as good as warpaint 😂

[hollow plover]

ive also been thinking about running Bitter Immunity for that small 20% heal on Mug'Zee since we're doing the 4heal strat

[balmy kindle]

Blizz : wow you are a genius, when can you start 🤣

[swift crown]

Honestly

For prog you should prob press IV for every Bandit heal absorb for example

[sacred zodiac]

Ok just day i griefed

[swift crown]

No

It isn't like

A thing people do

Most people

[sacred zodiac]

Oh no its 100% correct tho lmao

[swift crown]

But it's technically impossible to die if you heal yourself on absorbs

Ye

I mean I underpressed too

Wcyd

[sacred zodiac]

Depends when you prog this fight

[swift crown]

Yea for sure

When you and me progged it was kinda w/e a lot of the time

[sacred zodiac]

Rwf level ur healers are too good for it to matter

For us it was whatever for ppl progging now its a dont eat fire check

[swift crown]

Rwf level you just don't bring a Warrior

[sacred zodiac]

True real

[shy dove]

So what did I miss about arms since Cataclysm?

[swift crown]

What didn't you miss

[shy dove]

Collusus prot

[slow saddle]

Arms shouldda been thane + collosus

[hollow plover]

everything

[thick hamlet]

any mythic plus experts around

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7gqt5hhAwuSpHo6PU15isu

trying to figure out why this dungeon route has remnant of darkness this high

[thick kelp]

lots of strength

• droute sims not optimized for warrior dps specs

[thick hamlet]

how so?

[thick kelp]

well the apl is not optimized for the style of sim it is

[gloomy mirage]

678 electro arm (haste mas)

[gloomy mirage]

ooo

[hollow plover]

TIL warbreaker applies mastery

[gloomy mirage]

unfortunately not at me pc

[thick hamlet]

i don't know enough to confirm something like that, do u have any details?

for what it's worth, this is my own route

[thick kelp]

well what details do u need

the apl just

doesnt have the proper functions

to sim a dungeon route sim

or dungeon slice sim

[thick hamlet]

so it "misplays" in a way?

[thick kelp]

yes

[thick hamlet]

i understand

do you have alternative ways to sim something like this then

[thick kelp]

if you just want to sim for keys

1t 3min and 8-10t 40s-1min

and then compare results

and apply common sense + what the better players are doing

[thick hamlet]

i've used this in the past, but it unfortunately is very flawed

doesn't take into account downtime or the fact that you don't always have your cds

it's only accurate for something like the first big BL pull of a dungeon

[icy mulch]

Why are servers down again?

[gray herald]

just na things

[thick kelp]

it is

hence why apply common sense + copy what better players are doing

[slow saddle]

Yup😂

As in dont take 2m trinkets

[gray herald]

there is no perfect way to sim for m+ since there are SO many variables

[thick hamlet]

funny enough, those better players are the same who all used to go for priory at the start of the season

[gray herald]

mdt sims are only really worth doing if someone manages the APL for them specifically

[thick hamlet]

it's a good general rule to follow them, but it's not always optimal for your own personal character

[thick hamlet]

signet

[thick kelp]

who went for priory at the start?

its just the best easy to obtain on use

[slow saddle]

Well u had 3 trinkets signet-hoc-lens

[gray herald]

start of the season people just used what they could get.. it's the start of the season

[thick kelp]

hoc + lens

are very hard to get

signet you just farm out

and its a good on use

[slow saddle]

Yup

[thick kelp]

Those people just used the best item they had at that point

now that they have hoc or lens they use those instead

[slow saddle]

I mean fr hoc doesnt exist

Cant complain though got hc lens

[thick hamlet]

that's a good point, although i still believe multiple trinkets from other dungoens are still superior to priory

the 2min thing is absolutely awful

[thick kelp]

well you generally want an on use + passive

and signet was the only on use out there

for m+

[slow saddle]

Hmm also which dungeon trinket?

Pacemaker and?

Well next season we gonna have bis trinkets in dungo again

[thick hamlet]

you mean instead of signet?

im a fan of grim codex

probably would've been my choice if i didnt have a hoc

[olive nest]

Idk if they buffed that thing but afaik that grim codex is totally trash

Why do you like it?

[teal fossil]

Isn’t that a damage trinket

Easy to use

[slow saddle]

It horrid

[teal fossil]

Ik it can get really janky

[spiral coral]

Can trinkets be “what you like” over what the robot says?

Cause I go with whatever the robot says and think literally nothing else of it

[teal fossil]

Yeah it can

Flat damage trinkets are underrated

Especially since stat trinkets has a player skill component to it

[spiral coral]

I have myth sig, and hero funhouse/Torq's/vexies

[quasi torrent]

just dont be a troglodyte

[warped ether]

Did anyone say puzzlebox ?????

[spiral coral]

Matchbox 20?

[fresh spire]

@reef glade it's jover

No anaxa dreams. Only primogem girl now

[reef glade]

Is he out now?

also helloooo bronyaaaaa

[naive sage]

Low versa specs benefit less from dmg trinkets tho

[low elk]

How do you guys maximize mortal wounds on the Yes Men in Cbrew? sometimes it just doesnt seem to work for me and they all heal up to max, and sometimes i manage to get 1-2 of them to not fully heal. sweeping strikes mortal wounds seem to not work consistently, when i change target and mortal strike right before one of them is gonna die it seems to work more frequently but still doesnt seem to always work and im not sure why

[teal fossil]

All damage trinkets scale with crit vers

All passive damage trinkets also do haste

So it’s just mastery

[naive sage]

Iirc not all trinkets benefit from haste do they? And not all trinkets can crit
Versa is a flat and reliable damage increase instead

[teal fossil]

99.9% trinkets can crit

Anything that’s a dot is buffed by haste

Or they just proc more from haste

[dim basalt]

Are you confusing trinkets not scaling with talents / abilities maybe?

Because thats often the case

[fresh spire]

My friendship has now ended with Anaxa. I'm now friends with pink Barbra

[mild dagger]

Seeing a lot more fury warriors than I did at the start of the season. Did something change to make them better than arms? I've been mostly checked out after 2500 io

[olive nest]

Does more boss damage than arms is my guess

[thick kelp]

[shadow ibex]

At this point in the season people are going to play what they want to play

[olive nest]

That too ye

[mild dagger]

Fair enough. I'm happy where I'm at, just don't want to have to go back to Fury.

[shadow ibex]

Week 8 now but I swear I thought it's been more

[olive nest]

You don’t have too! I don’t think I’ve ran a single fury key this whole patch lol

Arms owns

[mild dagger]

I let the meta push me into fury last season. It's just not for me

[shadow ibex]

I've done more fury delves than I've done fury keys since like df s2

Thane delves is just afk press w so idm it

[mild dagger]

I wish Arms got comped the stat loss from not have a second 2 handed weapon

[olive nest]

I was spoiled with RA fury I simply do not enjoy AM fury

[shadow ibex]

I've done some fury in raid it kinda feels like df s2 I guess

Thane at least

[olive nest]

Same I did rik and stix prog as fury

Also did a first 2 on reclear just to get a log

But definitely enjoy arms the most

[shadow ibex]

Remove jug

[olive nest]

Ye I’m for it

Also cool with the 5 stack 5sec duration idea too

[dusky crater]

do we completely ignore boxes on Bandit as arms

[shadow ibex]

If you are colossus you can demo

[dusky crater]

Slayer* also i meant in execute phase mb

[olive nest]

I try to sweep them if it’s back up

[shadow ibex]

Slayer can roar but bs is caca

In exe I would just follow prio with sweep

Let other classes nuke it

[dusky crater]

Also do u mt boss or assistant with sweep

[shadow ibex]

Ur not gonna carry p2 bombs as slayer anything

[olive nest]

Boss, mouseover execute add

[dusky crater]

https://tenor.com/view/flushed-gif-26618632

[olive nest]

Get real cheeky and throw on fatality

[glossy tusk]

did they fuck up again? i got wrists and cloaks on 8 vaults :)))))))))))))))

[olive nest]

Duplicates would be a bug if they’re not duplicates you just got owned

[little stirrup]

On raidbots which simulation it's best for DG on warrior arms?

[hollow plover]

whats DG

dungeon?

[little stirrup]

yeah, dungeons

[hollow plover]

you have to do multiple sims to get an accurate picture

I tend to do 3min 1 target, 1.5min 5 target and dungeon slice

also 5min 1target

dungeon slice doesnt paint a perfect picture

so i dont like it as much

[little stirrup]

makes sense

thanks

[tacit crystal]

@swift crown its not invalidated lol

[hollow plover]

good morning

[tacit crystal]

gm

i love having to pull rik 11 times then just randomly oneshot coc and vexie

[hollow plover]

real

[fresh spire]

rik do be like that

[river ridge]

Richard Reveberation can be quite annoying on reclear

[void bay]

What is the mythic mechanic? I forgot

[quasi torrent]

soak frontal and break shields on the pillars with the spread mech innit

[void bay]

Ah shields, that was it. Cheers

[void bay]

https://tenor.com/view/calvinbanks-ashtonsummers-friends-holding-hands-gif-10590213389909676665

[vague ore]

what should I drop for this talent?

am I trolling if I drop rallying cry

[thick kelp]

2nd wind or leap CDR (or rally)

[teal fossil]

leap cd

Or rally yeah

[reef glade]

or overwhelming rage

doesn’t rly matter much m+ apparently

[slow saddle]

Rally !

Who cares 10% on a 3m cd

[obsidian acorn]

Idropped rally as well

[vague ore]

yeah it kinda sucks

[slow saddle]

If it was a meaningfull amount, and we had more close 2 1 shot mechanics

At least nothin id consider in anything below the biggest of.m big keys

[thin galleon]

saddest kill time

😭

[kind thunder]

for arms whats the best way to sim aoe?

[hollow plover]

you increase target count from 1 to however many you want to fight. You change the fight time from (most likely) 5 minutes to something you see yourself fighting. In M+ that might be a 1min 30sec aoe fight, could also just be 40 seconds, really depends on key levels tbh

[kind thunder]

i see

tyty

[teal fossil]

Keep in mind your method will overweigh high cd/on use trinkets

A hypothetical 5 minute trinket and a 1 minute trinket will both only get 1 use in a 90 second sim

[hollow plover]

ya everything needs context

[kind thunder]

do we care about martial prowess?

[fresh spire]

nah

[sacred zodiac]

unlikely you arrive in a position where you have 2x mp and another op charge somehow

[hollow plover]

I haven't had a single execute phase situations where i was able to press overpower 3x without being able to execute 2x or mortal strike at least once - ever

[tacit crystal]

in execute only

it happens to me

i rarely get it outside of execute

[sacred zodiac]

how tho

ms procs tac ig

[tacit crystal]

yeah

just turbo proc

[thick kelp]

ms opport exe opport exe ms

gg

[tacit crystal]

gg

or

ms op slam op slam op

during lust

[hollow plover]

im ngl i slam executes like there's no tomorrow instead of opportunist overpowers and i don't regret it (I do)

[strange perch]

I miss rotation/spec changing tier pieces …

[olive nest]

Is it even possible to have 2xmp and a op charge available if you’re following the prio correctly?

[hollow plover]

when ravager is running in execute phase as slayer, do yall spam execute only or do yall weave opportunist overpowers?

[olive nest]

Opportunist ofc

I haven’t ran rav in a few weeks but I remember doing exe ex op exe exe op

[hollow plover]

idk why but my brain isnt okay with opportunist overpower being stronger than 15 jugg stacks execute

[olive nest]

Or exe op exe if opportunist procs

I’m also noober so bigger brain would know better

[minor gust]

There's a rage conditional for ravager execute rotation opp at sub 85 rage

[kind thunder]

i want to do that but my technological overlords say i cant

[tacit crystal]

yeah

[sacred zodiac]

ms op exe op exe

final exe procs opp

[sage bison]

bring back SL codemn so our 100%-80% and 35%-0% was literally spamming execute

[kind thunder]

[sage bison]

https://tenor.com/view/sire-denathrius-wow-world-of-warcraft-shadowlands-gif-33988949688349729

[flat willow]

https://i.redd.it/2k8onn1uew161.gif

[broken arrow]

Waiting for Shadowlands classic to spam Condemn

[kind thunder]

i like EP i just dont like having to press OP when my brain wants to press MS

[sage bison]

https://tenor.com/view/key-and-peele-key-peele-draw-draxx-gif-4674238

[spiral coral]

The farther we get from SL the harder people huff it’s nostalgia

[kind thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-huy-gif-3446472264773142010

[shadow ibex]

idk how people miss condemn when for first 2 tiers it did no dmg

must be a s3 and s4 thing but i was gone by then

[flat willow]

first tier nothing did damage

but maaaan spamming condemn in pvp and just stomping people

[spiral coral]

Stomping people because iirc PvE’ers had to pvp

[hollow wave]

The two first demolish hits counts as collateral stacks when sweeping striking?

[shadow ibex]

yes

[olive nest]

Ahh yes, and I think I read from walhe that you’d spend the ms to get rid of mp stacks before using the opp proc right?

[regal wharf]

i fuckin hate rik

it just

doesnt work on outlaw rogue

[olive nest]

Riks cool when the barrel spawns are not horrendous

[fresh spire]

3 tank rik owns

more fire mages you have the harder rik gets ngl

:kekw

[olive nest]

[slow saddle]

Agreed peak hard gameplay!

[olive nest]

Rotation helper going to be rage starving you just watch

[slow saddle]

Tbh peak was nf arms

Lazor beam stand in flowers

[vital mortar]

Guys, what are my choices in Trinkets for arms? cuz whenevery i check a guide it feels like a clownshow, Its obviously Eye of Kezan and House of Cards, but what are my other options?

[dim basalt]

Eye of Kezan is mid tbh

[shadow ibex]

maybe with rotation helper they see how dumb stuff is

colossus aoe press 1 of these 3 buttons

[tender ermine]

Any big brain mythic raiders about? I got some questions about Reverb

[vital mortar]

What do you recommend in place of it?

cuz these 2 aside, the other raid trinkets look trashy as fk

[dim basalt]

I'm running HoC and Pacemaker in all content tbh

Eye is only good on some mythic bosses on farm

Heroic delve trinkets are also still pretty good but gl getting them

[dim basalt]

Just ask, plenty of mythic raiders here

[tender ermine]

So my raid is really struggling with the pylon baits. They consistently spawn over melee. My guess is that we don't understand how the targeting works?

At what point is the second pylons location decided by the game?

[dim basalt]

It's just rng

That's why you actually have camps

[kind thunder]

i run peacemaker/funhouse cuz i truly believe is impossible to win a roll in a raid

[tender ermine]

No logic that it follows?

[dim basalt]

Nope

Getting lots of pylons on one side can really suck during intermission

But it is what it is

[tender ermine]

On mythic?

I thought it was ranged and melee?

[dim basalt]

Hm?

I meant if pylons drop all on either melee or ranged camp

[olive nest]

Honestly true, hope so!

[dim basalt]

I doubt they will look at APLs to determine rotation ngl

[minor gust]

I have no idea why they are attempting to make a rotation helper.

[dim basalt]

But I'm up for a positive surprise

[minor gust]

that is just a bad idea all around

[shadow ibex]

yea

[minor gust]

because its not gonna use apls and I doubt they are gonna spend the time to update it or change it when they make class changes

its just gonna be a useless mess that new players will think is good

[dim basalt]

To be fair, it is probably decent for new players

This game can be pretty overwhelming

But I can also see how it could do more harm than good

[minor gust]

wow rotations are already pretty simple most new players just struggle with hitting buttons on every global

[olive nest]

Think how 1 button protection is going to work for instance 3 rage spenders 2 off gcd and very dependent on the situation
*4 with execute

Sounds like a nightmare to do 1 button

[kind thunder]

for 👴

[dim basalt]

I don't think that feature is made with challenging content in mind

But rather for stuff like story mode raid

[minor gust]

roation helpers dont help old people

they are slow not dumb

[dim basalt]

Players can't even use their gcds in FF14

[minor gust]

the 1 button mode is funny tho

I can see my raid all turning it on during farm just for fun to see if we can clear mythic all doing the 1 button thing

[naive sage]

It could be interesting to see their sorta “APL” they use for the rotation helper

And compare it to the theorycrafters’

[shadow ibex]

they arent gonna care

its gonna be a general guideline

like the suggested talent spec

[kind thunder]

i bet they got more things to think about than a rotation priority 💀

[minor gust]

its gonna be basic and bare bones so its easy to update with class changes which is why it will ultimately be more harmful and just a worse version of Hekili

[zenith lodge]

on Mythic OAB do slayer just do no dmg outside of execute? Done about 130 pulls and feels like I do very low dps

[minor gust]

thats slayer arms yes

welcome to arms

[kind thunder]

i somehow dont trust them updating it up to class standards

[zenith lodge]

well I guess ill just focus on mechanics until execute phase then

[minor gust]

afk till 35% is very real

[hollow plover]

yuh

[sacred zodiac]

oh did i miss a memo on slayer on oab

did they nerf reel assistants enough for colossus to be irrelevant or

[hollow plover]

packages are irrelevant

nowadays

[minor gust]

its mostly slayer now in logs

[hollow plover]

Sadge

bladestorm over ravager as well

[sacred zodiac]

u didnt play collosus for the boxes

it was legit just reel assistant 2 target cleave

[minor gust]

^

[sacred zodiac]

while still having p decent execute

[hollow plover]

I mean box padding was good regardless

🤑

[sacred zodiac]

get real

[hollow plover]

but yeah no melee add always died way too quickly

[kind thunder]

can u cast a demolish on the boxes without omega trolling the raid tho

[sacred zodiac]

idk i cant parse anyways i have 0 mythic items that matter

[hollow plover]

if ur not fixated yuh

[sacred zodiac]

demolish has range and you're not always fixated

and with the new strat you don't even spawn the unccable boxes anymore

[kind thunder]

i see

[kind thunder]

u guys ever wonder who this mf is

[shadow ibex]

Warbringer dev

Iykyk

[kind thunder]

john warrior

[fresh spire]

its him

[kind thunder]

warrior man the third

[desert violet]

anyone know how to fix

still dont have achiev :/

[naive sage]

Idk, but male draenei is HIDEOUS

[fresh spire]

issue with main hand

try swap into protection and equip a one hander

might work for you

https://www.wowhead.com/news/swapping-weapons-to-trigger-the-bugged-gilded-of-the-undermine-achievement-376628?utm_source=discord-webhook

[desert violet]

Tried that, didn't work

[fresh spire]

Pain 😦

[sacred zodiac]

Why do you have 3 ilvls on me

Explode

[desert violet]

im just the goat

also it's kinda fake I'm not actually 675 equipped bc I dont have good myth track trinkets

[mild sierra]

how are u 672. noob?

[desert violet]

randomly sent a trinket upgrade and it worked

now I have 671 geargrinder's spare keys 🙂

[grand idol]

Tahts what the article said to do.

[desert violet]

yeah but I had already done that

with multiple items

[stable fiber]

CS CANT BE PARRIED ANYMORE

WE ARE SOOO BACK

(actually a really good change)

[hazy flower]

parry shouldnt be in this game

[wicked aurora]

finally

9 expansions later

[rare kite]

https://tenor.com/view/todo-clap-orgasm-daddy-yes-boogie-woogie-gif-21117228

[kind thunder]

how tf do u parry a big ass stomp

[shadow ibex]

It only took longer than it takes to get a doctorate

[tacit crystal]

warrior is saved

[rough sluice]

we are so back

[pure otter]

FUCK YEAH

[shadow ibex]

Slowly being brought up to modernity

[ocean merlin]

thatll only happen when they entirely rework warrior kek. class has been almost the same for over half the games life

[spiral coral]

Pls no

[ocean merlin]

i mean the class just falls behind anytime it isnt overtuned. modern classes just play better (usually) in modern content

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-boy-decade-too-late-gif-23007019

[chrome burrow]

Oh my god finally

[dull siren]

Just remove parry

from PvE

fun to parry kidney shots

[reef glade]

remove parry or add back spell resists

[shadow ibex]

Yes

Still mad that p much every melee got to enjoy Inc melee range then they axe it all in tww

other melee I mean

[unique bridge]

Im going to parse higher than all of you with one button, because im going to press it way better than you!

[proud heath]

how many seconds before OAB do i use sweeping strikes?

[minor gust]

Holy I creamed my pants

[tacit crystal]

you can check on lorrgs on how other warriors are using ss

[minor gust]

Tho still funny unless it wasn't mentioned Warbreaker can still be parried xd

[tacit crystal]

0 reason its in the game for pve

[minor gust]

🙂

muh texture

[tacit crystal]

for dps specs*

[finite ocean]

what trinkets are yall running?

[tacit crystal]

the ones that sim highest?

[minor gust]

Passive stat trinket + on use Stat trinket like every other patch

[tacit crystal]

double on use aint that bad

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/shoo-cat-go-away-get-out-away-with-you-gif-3783972095861581153

[ashen badger]

do i ever slam

[minor gust]

yes

[ashen badger]

and then rend in st over thunderclap

or do i just always TC

[minor gust]

rend in ST yes but the difference is so incredibly minimal you can just use TC if u want

[ashen badger]

what do u do

[minor gust]

I use TC in all situations cuz I dont give a fuck and I still orange and pink parse in mythic so take that how you want

[ashen badger]

copy

arms is doing well this tier right?

is it bc colossus is doing well or bc arms itself

[minor gust]

gonna need more context than that raid or M+

[ashen badger]

both

[minor gust]

its a good spec in both

[tacit crystal]

slayer in raid colo in m+

you can play colo in 2 fights

er

you play colo on 1 fight and other you play both

or just force colo anyways

[kind thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mongrel-monochrome-moths-caption-gif-12703245408768495082

[nova marsh]

DID I JUST READ THAT RIGHT?

AIN'T NO WAY BLIZZ DID THIS.

[olive nest]

OMG

FINALLY

https://tenor.com/view/looking-big-eyes-meme-gif-7200239684331082529

[nova marsh]

Anyone got that one clip

[olive nest]

"adds texture"

we should pin that here

lmfao

[nova marsh]

Of the guy who had a dubble full rage bar IRL in DF when CS was parried in execute on magamorax?

Cuz holy FUCK IT'S DEAD

[tacit crystal]

you mean grom

i got some funny grom clips

too bad i cant post em here

[minor gust]

Parry Warbreaker Grom Clip better

[tacit crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-mow-those-who-know-gif-6741124947321800836

[minor gust]

and still relevant

🙂

[nova marsh]

wait

it just says CS

DOES THAT MEAN WARBREAKER CAN STILL BE PARRIED?

This has to be tested

[minor gust]

🙂

[kind thunder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHEWfuAV1fg

[olive nest]

surely its both

[kind thunder]

this dude got parried the entire raid he has so many clips

[nova marsh]

Guys they can't even spell warbreaker

ya think they remebered to change it too?

[fringe moon]

Nice…a hotfix for something that’s been a thing for how long now?

[snow flame]

9 years

[fringe moon]

Better now than never I guess. Yay

[fresh tide]

holy fuck cs finally fixed

[minor gust]

warbreaker over here like

https://tenor.com/view/what-about-me-bob-morales-la-bamba-dont-forget-about-me-how-about-me-gif-26723505

[nova marsh]

Blizz can't spell it

So fake spell

[minor gust]

Warbringer can no longer be parried

the dream

[nova marsh]

Arms can no longer be parried

We hit too hard

[opaque radish]

Thank god I don't have to meme about cs parries 🙏

[fair tinsel]

Sidearm can no longer be parried to compensate for the nerf

Warrior saved

[halcyon valve]

We are simply that strong

[viscid geode]

How long should I hold a CD to line up with others? Was it 12 seconds?

[quaint otter]

If talking about wb might be worth holding if around 10 secs left

[void bay]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-strong-buff-ripped-gif-7114424984314406744

[viscid geode]

what about Ravager?

[tacit crystal]

hold for cs

can send if big collat

[viscid geode]

sorry, cd?

cs*?

[quaint otter]

Colossus smash

Warbreaker

[viscid geode]

oh, roger

[quaint otter]

Whatever

Warbringer

[tacit crystal]

[viscid geode]

yeah sorry learning Warrior so dont have all the variants memorized lol

[tacit crystal]

i mean yeah i just dont even refer to the aoe one

same thing to me

bobzilla

i cant sleep

but my favorite song is playing

[quaint otter]

I cant sleep too

[tacit crystal]

isnt it

like

+8

to your timezone

like

[quaint otter]

I mean overall

[tacit crystal]

2pm

[quaint otter]

Got prescription for agomelatine and it does no shit

[quaint otter]

11 47 am

[tacit crystal]

oh anh

my math bad

idk

i cant sleep

because i spent last few hours raiding

[quaint otter]

[tacit crystal]

we killed sprocket tn

[gray herald]

gz!

[tacit crystal]

i did no damage very bad

[gray herald]

oh no

we killed gally last night

[tacit crystal]

i was 3rd on damage

but still

i got a blue parse man

[gray herald]

i did damage!

i was first on damage 😎

[gray herald]

blue on first kill is fiiiine

you gotta kill the boss first parse later

[tacit crystal]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxzTTlOqTZ3PrJYjPV0ywgW5GLRIZFsTes?si=JYmTGrAfiZ91KM8O

should i have potentially killed whole raid by charging / leaping in

or just dropped the uptime

[gray herald]

look at his little legs go!

i woulda charged/leaped 100%

leap probably better idea

[tacit crystal]

i did the ethical thing man

[gray herald]

more predictable

[tacit crystal]

i mena yeah

[gray herald]

but yeah u did

[tacit crystal]

but its not worth

no way

[gray herald]

not worth the risk on late prog (i woulda done it anyway)

[tacit crystal]

i mean yeah

but playing with this music

is so stressful

[gray herald]

hold up lemme get earbuds

im in office so cant play out loud

[tacit crystal]

but i cant play with jpop and stream lest youtube strike my video

[thick kelp]

didnt even wrecking throw smh

[tacit crystal]

bro

[gray herald]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWrDqfBmfE0

my music was straight vibes on gally

[tacit crystal]

idk

i was overthinking what i should do there

that i didnt even think about wrecking throw

but i lvoe pressing that in my opener

charge wrecking rend

[gray herald]

haha progging to intense music is badass

[tacit crystal]

like

theres no way you cannot think about perma dying hearing that

oh shit

am i dead

every time we do a movement

[gray herald]

you need to get on the rat detective playlists

fully leaned back, chilling

[tacit crystal]

ive been sticking to fire emblem ost

or persona 5

havent been copystriked

and i like it

[gray herald]

fair

what's the deal with getting copystriked

i dont do youtube, i just upload random kill vids

[tacit crystal]

i dont know

it just doesnt like most music

and or

[tacit crystal]

my stream gets taken down

like zddd

[gray herald]

i have this on one video (selling a poe build)

but it doesnt seem to affect anything

just says it's blocked in some countries

[tacit crystal]

need to find what it looks like

but basically it stops the stream for me

[gray herald]

ohh i guess it's diff for streaming

twitch just mutes your vod right? i thought copyrighted music was okay while live 🤷‍♂️

[magic canopy]

i fucking hate the rubber banding movement on gating that fight

[minor gust]

welcome to OAB hell

[tacit crystal]

like either potentially kill everyone

or suck it up

[tacit crystal]

shh we need to rekill stix

[tacit crystal]

yeah idk

[minor gust]

also why you no charge the boss coward

[tacit crystal]

this one i just was playing a bakemonogatari song and it killed the vod lol

[minor gust]

ive charged everytime no issues just made sure it was clear before I did it

[tacit crystal]

try playign with that music on for prog

[tacit crystal]

there has been acts of terror

some mage

[minor gust]

ranged player classic

now you can watch them be more terrorists on OAB and die to random shit

[tacit crystal]

in 1st intermission as red blinked into the boss so the blue players hitting it just got killed

LIKE

HOW DO YOU BLINK INTO THE BOSS

ive also killed a number of folks

but it was earlier so im forgiven

[minor gust]

we got to 20% on OAB tonight. Had minimal prog like usual def wont kill on Sunday most likely next week

ive swapped to Blord colossus instead of jugg shit feels way way way more better

[tacit crystal]

yeah but jug

i fucked my vexie parse this week gooning to save my jug

me when i delay my avatar by 13s because i tunnel visioned

[gray herald]

we havent recleared for so long

it's gonna feel weird next week

im scared of the reprog lmao

[tacit crystal]

also somehow as of 11 days ago

i have 10 subs on yt

me when its just vod fodder

[swift crown]

Penis Brand Affliction League wow

[tacit crystal]

hi schmidi

[swift crown]

Hi Gio57

My now-ex guild had its final raid tonight

Time to lock the fuck in for a new chapter

[tacit crystal]

yeah i was watching spongus stream

what is lore on turtles explosion

[swift crown]

Just didn't work anymore

Wcyd

[tacit crystal]

come raid with us

[swift crown]

Many things contributed

I already have a new guild

[tacit crystal]

im also starting to recruit for gio super team

leak new guild

[swift crown]

Northern Sky

not a leak

[tacit crystal]

woah

pogga

they the wa guys

[gray herald]

i am a serial reroller wcyd

[swift crown]

That's Reloe

[tacit crystal]

what wr are they

and wat was turtle

[swift crown]

This tier 13

Tutel was like

130?

[tacit crystal]

holy moly

woah

did you app or they reach out

[swift crown]

I applied

[tacit crystal]

gl trial

[swift crown]

tyty

[tacit crystal]

can i get a log review

:3

i think my kill is fucked based on 2 things

dropping uptime from boss movement

and 8 people dying

thoughts

[thick kelp]

more on the

12s downtime on boss

in execute

[tacit crystal]

mb for being ethical

it happened 2x

XDDD

[thick kelp]

leap

[tacit crystal]

tank died 2nd time and biss followed swordish

so i gave up taunted dbts to keep jug up

[tacit crystal]

maybe next time

[thick kelp]

also wrecking throw smh

[gray herald]

gl capybara man

[tacit crystal]

man

i swear the rest of the fight was fine

[swift crown]

ty Chawie

[tacit crystal]

gg

GGGGGGGGGGGGGG

BLUE = bad

[naive sage]

CS was introduced in Cataclysm and they realized it should not be parryable just now

This says a lot

[gray herald]

nooo bro

you wanna know a fun fact

i got hof sarkareth with grey on every boss

[gray herald]

yeah it's kinda wild ngl

[tacit crystal]

w

[lilac raptor]

Recently I found that the Arms Warrior's Wind of Resurgence will become a permanent BUFF, which lasts forever. Does anyone know what's going on?

[tacit crystal]

do you mean second wind?

[lilac raptor]

Suddenly discovered

[tacit crystal]

some dots dont break second wind

its very inconsistent

[lilac raptor]

Does anyone know how this could happen?

[tacit crystal]

its inconsistent some dots break it others dont

[lilac raptor]

I mean this BUFF is permanent.

[sacred zodiac]

yes its permanent until you take damage

but not every dot triggers the "take damage" part

bursting was a very famous example for this

[silver mica]

how often was the parry bug happening? I didnt even notice lol

[sacred zodiac]

there's no bug, your CS could just get parried like any other melee attack

[silver mica]

ohhhhhhhhh

[empty sluice]

Getting Parry on Kingsbane as rogue was wild too

[lilac raptor]

According to WCL records, the coverage rate of this BUFF is 98% throughout the whole process. It does not invalidate this talent when receiving damage, but it continues all the time, and the treatment amount throughout the whole process is very high.

[tacit crystal]

link your log

[lilac raptor]

https://cn.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:HtDJFy76zGprXqBh?fight=8&type=healing&start=13589914&end=13794354&source=8

Switch to English, this is the Chinese log

[void bay]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-china-gif-284632875632280687

[sacred zodiac]

idk what timeframe you zoomed in on

19:00-22:00 is very specific just looks like you picked a fight where dots hit you that dont break second wind

oh yeah you just zoomed in on the swampface fight

we have already said multiple times that some damage over time debuffs that are applied to you do not break second wind

[lilac raptor]

Yes, in this battle, the wind coverage rate is very high and it is not interrupted.

[sacred zodiac]

it looks like the dot that swampface applies is one of these dots and if you play correctly you take no other damage in that fight

[lilac raptor]

However, fury Warrior cannot do this. Why?

[sacred zodiac]

fury doesn't have second wind?

fury is all in all still tankier than arms

[lilac raptor]

https://cn.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dMgyQqkVTzcZ9BnG?fight=71&type=healing&start=27430322&end=27614795&source=748

[sacred zodiac]

yes this is one fight where a bugged talent works when it shouldnt

can you now show hps on the other fights

fury also just takes less raw damage since it has like 1 more DR than arms ye

[lilac raptor]

Yes, that's the bug I'm asking about.

[gray herald]

some dots dont cancel second wind

there doesnt seem to be much of a pattern to which dots

that's the whole story

[minor gust]

Second wind doesn't break on environment damage. its very much possible these dots are coded as such

[thick kelp]

rashok moment

[minor gust]

its nothing crazy like Rashok but stix is okay for second wind too

[clever wing]

Big win

[minor gust]

I cant wait to need to run warbreaker on a raid boss and watch it get parried

[calm oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-mad-fish-sponge-bob-angry-gif-12369198217513035864

[naive sage]

Good times

[soft flower]

Question about our use of Demolish, I recently switched to Colossus and I wonder if I'm using it correctly, I use it before 10 stacks of colossal might on the opener (rend, thunderous roar, ravager, avatar, warbreaker, mortal strike and then demolish) at like 4 stacks, and then on CD which always lines up with 10 stacks for me.
Would like to get either a confirmation about that or should I not do it?

[quaint otter]

U can do more stacks on opener

Often 10

Send when wb has 2 secs left

[soft flower]

Yeah but I see on sims it's sooner than 10 on the opener, so is it wrong there?

[minor gust]

depends on context aoe or ST

[quaint otter]

🤷‍♀️

[soft flower]

single target

[minor gust]

st you will send as soon as you cant mortal strike anymore

doesnt matter the stacks the on the first demolish

aoe it different

[soft flower]

yeah that's what I thought

aoe is diffrent ofc, I should have clarified im talking about st

[soft flower]

I'm curious, you wait until you have 10 stacks on your first demolish in single target?

[quaint otter]

No i just send as 2 sec on wb left

[soft flower]

Oh that's nice, how many stacks you get usually?

rng refunds and all

[quaint otter]

Depends if i score crits 🤓

4-6

[soft flower]

interesting, noted

[livid crescent]

this is my character, only just made it a few days ago not played much. Are there any trinkets from the new event in Hallowfall that are worth picking up? There's quite a few, as I have a token to redeem. Was going to do feet as they are my lowest piece and I have a crafted weapon already, Was thinking of maybe a trinket as it would be huge ilvl + if its good for dps might be worth until I replace

[minor gust]

its just catch up gear dont over think it shoot for higher ilvl thats it

[livid crescent]

Ah right no worries

Appreciate it

[hollow plover]

sir you are a legend for not going basic aaaah elf races

[soft flower]

Never will change my Orc

[hollow plover]

goat

[livid crescent]

I like the way dwarf looks in a non-homo way

[hollow plover]

Agreed

[livid crescent]

Like I have nelf druid (obviously) and I don't really like it all that much

[minor gust]

how very homo of you

[slow saddle]

Might go voidy elf

Imm dracthyr atm

[livid crescent]

[hollow plover]

shame on you

[livid crescent]

The only races I have been for warrior was; orc, mag orc, dwarf and human

[minor gust]

I really like the way nelf holds a single 2h wep

when targeting something

also flips and shit

[hollow plover]

Weirdge

nah

[livid crescent]

for me idc about that, I just want my character to look good

it's like draenei, those tmogs are ugly as fuck

I would never make a draenei

[minor gust]

no shoe races are bad

[livid crescent]

There's some characters I refuse to make

[hollow plover]

yo lads i didnt play df, where do i get ashkandur

aberrus right?

[slow saddle]

Bwl?

[livid crescent]

from neltharion I believe

[hollow plover]

ashkandur, not ashkandi

different items

[livid crescent]

I personally never played warrior during that, I played sub and aug

but yeah just checked, it is neltharion

[slow saddle]

Theres only 1 true asscandy

[hollow plover]

ok

elf

Weirdge

[sharp wyvern]

the one from cata i 100% agree

[slow saddle]

Dracthyr

[slow saddle]

Its short

[sharp wyvern]

but it looks the best

[slow saddle]

We need the true shaped like a wide bat sword

[livid crescent]

Question: If I sim all of this, it won't obviously add the embellishments. But I would assume the embellishment buff will be the same regardless of the item I put it onto? Like if boots are 50k dps increase, and wrist is 40k dps increase. If I put embellishment on both. It will still be a 10k dps difference?

[gray herald]

yes embellishments give the same benefit regardless of slot (or item level) at this point

[livid crescent]

Since I am using Ascension, I should get the thing to buff that right?

[gray herald]

the only difference will be a minor change if for example you craft crit/haste boots with dawn/dusk thread and the value of your stats will slightly change compared to put it on wrists

[livid crescent]

Ah I see

[gray herald]

because the wrists will have a different amount of crit and haste, but that will be quite a negligible change

[livid crescent]

Yeah

[gray herald]

yes, writhing armour banding

[livid crescent]

Feet craft it is

[gray herald]

the only thing to take into account is are you going to improve these slots drastically very soon?

i.e. to 678

[livid crescent]

Maybe not, as I only made this char Tuesday

So I will not be able to time 7s this week I doubt + I will be saving to craft weapon at 678 ilvl

[gray herald]

675* but yeah fair enough

[livid crescent]

Yeah that, my bad

[gray herald]

seems like a good shout then

[livid crescent]

Sweet, appreciate the help :)

[regal wharf]

Wait

Colossus smash could be parried???

[livid crescent]

Listening

[gray herald]

yeah forever

[livid crescent]

Oh, not in my convo

[sacred zodiac]

sub has a hero talent that makes them be unable to be parried, but that is bugged to extend to literally everyone in the raid

[gray herald]

we have a lot of sparks now, i think 6 next week, so honestly crafting 675s with your crests is a pretty good shout anyway

[sacred zodiac]

its probably why you didn't notice recently

[livid crescent]

Yeah true actually

[gray herald]

i took half a spark from vault on my new alt (because my only +10 slot was a weapon, which i'd crafted)

and it doesnt even feel bad

i can craft 3 more 675 items this week

[sacred zodiac]

ok u trolled

[gray herald]

i wanna play alt for like a few weeks and do some fun content

i dont feel like i trolled

[livid crescent]

Tbf it's a good should, specifically for an alt kinda route tho

Would never do on my main, warrior is a sub alt for me. I have; 664 fire mage, 668 boomie, 655 VDH and arms is just a character I wanted to test while a friend tanked and quite enjoyed it

[sacred zodiac]

craft a wrist and socket it or smth

[gray herald]

socket is +10k crafted neck is like +50k

i dont wanna spam 30 cinderbrews on my 4fun character for a neck slightly worse than crafted

[livid crescent]

Real, not even gonna be good until it's myth anyway

[sacred zodiac]

or use one of ur 5 sparks to craft a neck and then socket a wrist that you also crafted and u still have 3 sparks left over

[gray herald]

but now i can craft neck+boots+off piece this week instead of waiting til next week

[sacred zodiac]

ya i mean fair enough

[slow saddle]

Alts like just gettin items insta y

[shadow ibex]

Not min maxing your alt gear almost 10 weeks in

Mega troll

[gray herald]

tbf i do like to minmax on my alts most of the time

but this one is a 2-3 week pump and dump for sure

[shadow ibex]

I think it's hard to make mistakes with turbo coming out in like 3 weeks

[olive nest]

What is turbo?

[nova marsh]

Track extensions and dinar

[gray herald]

• crest uncap and warbound valourstones

[olive nest]

Oh got it I didn’t realize they were calling that turbo lol

[gray herald]

"mid season turbo boost" or some shit

[shadow ibex]

I thought that was the name of the patch

I just know more power and ez gear

Wb valor is actually cool I did not know that

[gray herald]

(remove valor)

[hollow plover]

i like valor during initial gearing and then it gets annoying and tedious down the line, mainly due to alts

which would be avoided is valor was fully uncapped and warbound from the get-go

[untold trench]

You like valor... why?

[dim basalt]

Valor have no right to exist, at all

Why do we need two currencies to upgrade gear

It makes no sense at all

[untold trench]

I fail to see it having a purpose