arms

[fresh spire]

hes coming

i played blade like fuck when he first came out, was really fun

[inland crater]

the only 2 characters i use as dps are acheron and castorice

[fresh spire]

castorice enjoyers

[reef glade]

herta still got so much aura

[fresh spire]

herta is my fave tho fr

[reef glade]

even if e2 is like 500% dmg buff whatever

e0 gaming still cool

[inland crater]

yea, but acheron i still love regardless

[reef glade]

[fresh spire]

my only hope if the fate characters aren't busted

sorta need to save wishes when i get a chance for later

[magic canopy]

Saber will be s tier no matter what JP demands it

[latent moss]

idk what this is about but no chance they arent op

[tulip walrus]

arms is still king in ST right?

[rapid magnet]

i feel like they are similar but arms shifts more of the dmg to execute than fury does

[sacred zodiac]

if you have jewellery for both fury should sim a bit higher but its more relevant to fit the fight than sim higher

[sharp wyvern]

fatality scales with strenght right so does that mean eye of kezan gains value on mugzee

i might have to resim my champion track eye

[sacred zodiac]

you are looking at a 7+ minute killtimer on mugzee anyways

and all the relevant damage happens in the last few minutes

[dull siren]

dont remember what i did

[reef glade]

used ravager at least

think good ass timings and no one else doing dmg helped

but ravager perhaps gigabrain

tried it tho felt worse for me

[dull siren]

Gonna do first reclear since Gallywix kill tomorrow

I have some good cooks for parsing on farm might see wat i can do

[reef glade]

[minor gust]

[tacit crystal]

tmy wat are cooks

[smoky kayak]

It’s ap based so yeah

[shadow ibex]

How oab

[minor gust]

pray for good EB resets and MS crits for good demo timings

[minor gust]

oh and pre pop SS at 6 seconds in pulltimer

[verbal marten]

I swapped to fury for bandit idk arms felt a bit clunky maybe i just needed to get used to it more

[hollow plover]

Fatality build makes arms very clunky on that fight yuh

But it’s good for prog

[slow saddle]

Fatality no ep?

Or no rav?

🤣

[smoky kayak]

I think Arms can feel kinda off if your tank isn't quick about pulling bandit over to the prio add

but if adds are fine, then it doesn't really matter and you can just treat it like a ST boss

[slow saddle]

I think playin col for add dmg is why ppl think its clunky?

Dno havent gotten thst fsr yet

[empty sluice]

if only fatality worked as sudden demise

[viscid geode]

Hey all, learning Arms atm, would you consider 2.46mil zonewide dps on a 10 priory low for a 256?

[boreal quartz]

sounds ok

aquire more ilvl

[viscid geode]

Roger, thanks. I know i'm stil messing up my Cd windows and not taking advantageof execute window well enough yet

but it's starting to feel better.

Been on wow for 6 months playing SV hunter exclusively

[still fox]

execute is filet in m+

filler*

[viscid geode]

Makes sense, I thought it would be good to utilize on cleave with sweeping strikes

Question: I know on single target you're basically trying to keep mortal strike on CD, and overpower between them. When do you fill with slams?

[boreal quartz]

when you cant ms or op

and in execute u just replace slam with exe

but dotn starve urself so u can MS more

[viscid geode]

So it's not super important to play off of the execute stacks for MS?

[boreal quartz]

not in m+

cuz execute gets "good" with juggernaut and slayer stuff

which you dont run

[viscid geode]

Fair enough, thanks

[still fox]

so non exe phase filler is slam on exe phase same but filler is execute, prio ST = Mortal,Overpower,Slam/Exe

[hollow plover]

uh oh i think i missed something last week mayhaps, shouldnt i be at 9?

[fiery leaf]

Hello guys , quick question is it better to always do 2xOP => 1 ms or

1op => 1 ms => 1 op => 1ms when i can do it

same with cleave ?

[hollow plover]

MS is generally higher prio than OP

unless you get boundary conditional situations

[fiery leaf]

Yes but i was asking for the OP stack buff ?

the 2x15% damage buff , next MS damage buff

[hollow plover]

in pure ST, if your overpower doesn't have opportunist running, you click mortal strike

Opportunist is a buff coming from the slayer hero talent tree

If you're in colossus spec, MS > OP all day iirc

for ST situations

[fiery leaf]

ah yeah i saw it , i'm running colossus right now and setting up my weak aura and such

thanks !

[hollow plover]

keep mortal strike on cooldown

thumb

[fiery leaf]

about demolish , should i only lend it at 10 stacks or could be before ?

[boreal quartz]

only first one ever should be without 10

rest will all be with 10 in keys

[fiery leaf]

hey 🙂

what do you mean " the first one ever ? "

sorry just got back after almost 2years kinda lost xD

[fathom hollow]

are delve rewards hero gear now

on +8?

[hollow plover]

no

only maps give hero track

[fathom hollow]

ok

[hollow plover]

bountiful chest is champ track

[dim basalt]

First pull in the dungeon

[hollow plover]

I mean the first demolish should only ever be a non-10 stack demolish if ur tryna pad before small hp adds die

[boreal quartz]

i shall pad

[hollow plover]

if you have a ret pala in group - pad on that shii

100%

[dim basalt]

Nah even if you don't pad

Gotta use the modifiers

And whether you send at 8 or 10 doesn't matter too much

[hollow plover]

i mean idk about you but i almost always get a 10stacker in the modifier window

or wdym

[viscid geode]

Anyone able to tell me why the Grim Codex is listed as one of the two best in slot trinkets on wowhead and icy veins but when you look at the trinket list down below the BiS lists its not even listed?

[hollow plover]

what?

[sacred zodiac]

you're probably reading the pure m+ bis list

like, if you can literally only equip items from m+, that'd be your best setup for pure st

[viscid geode]

Right I am, but that trinket isn't in the single target list at all

[sacred zodiac]

read the text above the bis list, grim codex is the bis for this scenario but the reality is that only pacemaker is good from dungeon and everything else is garbage

[hollow plover]

the list you're looking at isnt "these are bis items FOR dungeons" it's "these are bis items FROM dungeons if you can ONLY do dungeons"

thats how you need to read it

[sacred zodiac]

also looks that this list just isnt updated from when the miscellanious trinkets were buffed

[viscid geode]

Right, but Vicsera is listed and its from ToP too

makes sense if it's out of date tho

[hollow plover]

viscera was bad before buffs

[sacred zodiac]

idk don't use this as a resource

[hollow plover]

yea

[sacred zodiac]

learn how to sim your character and how to chase upgrades w/ raidbots

bis lists are a questionable resource at best

[hollow plover]

run a droptimizer instead of using this list

[viscid geode]

Will do, thanks

[hollow plover]

if you're ever unsure how, ask around and people will help you with simming

[viscid geode]

Appreciate it, I think i get the gist of droptimizer

[swift crown]

You're a questionable chatter

[sacred zodiac]

rude

but not false

[reef glade]

quite an exemplary description perhaps

[swift crown]

Verified twitch streamer Spongiewarr

[dull siren]

@thick kelp

Slayer strat is big

[slow saddle]

Tiny tmy pumpin

U the guy the makes warriors get nerfed

[quasi torrent]

shit mog buddy

[devout mantle]

Generally speaking, what dungeons are arms/fury keys or is it a case of play all dungeons as arms atm

Played progress as tank but will play m+ as dps with friendos so kinda trying to figure out what to play where

[dull siren]

shut it pig

[halcyon breach]

T3 enjoyer pov

(Sunk cost fallacy forced me to use it)

[quasi torrent]

L

[sacred zodiac]

sunk cost argument too strong

[quasi torrent]

Fallacy Fallacy

[hollow plover]

slayer arms OAB = ignoring small adds unless CDs for them up?

[dull siren]

Sweeping Strikes

Mouseover execute

[manic bear]

is there any bugged on collateral damage talent?

after end of Ssweeping strikes i did not got the buff

[sacred zodiac]

did you actually hit a second target?

[zenith lodge]

If you use ss at 6 sec pull timer, do you get it during 1st set of adds on OAB?

[dim basalt]

ye

[visual fern]

Walle and I been saying slayer best for one arm

All these colossus copers....

[fresh spire]

i played slayer

[tacit crystal]

what was the cook tmy

[visual fern]

Unless you're giga short on reel dam for w.e reason, but then I'd just play fury

[tacit crystal]

is it just prestscking jug with ss?

[stable fiber]

do people actually use fatal mark

on like mugzee

personally im not using that dog ass talent

no cap

when i get to mugzee*

[sharp wyvern]

seems like it

[stable fiber]

ig its more for killing the boss faster in the part of the fight that matters most

[sharp wyvern]

some people also use it on bandit

[stable fiber]

yeah im assuming its just worse overall damage, but better on those 2 bosses where the most important part of the fight is pretty much when they hit execute phase

icic

[charred brook]

watching the new @magic canopy video im gonna take a guess what his take is before it starts

Work hard if u want good loot

warrior mindset

i love it

[magic canopy]

I'm getting eviscerated in the comments I bet

[charred brook]

i havent watched it yet dont spoil

im currently in tettles stream arguing the same thing lol

[charred brook]

Btw, your content has been great lately. I listen to it on the way to work most of the time so it's been nice for me. I would say if you ever wanted some advice from a listeners POV I have like 1-2 (Very small things) that may help as a viewer. But seriously, keep it up I've been loving it!

[magic canopy]

Sure send it

[charred brook]

Ill dm it to you

[quasi torrent]

exe isn't rly that important on OAB

if u get there with the raid alive u kinda just win

[dull siren]

I mean, Idk I was doing same damage as Colossus on prog as Slayer ppl were + you just dropped more last phase DPS for a minor burst gain and 1 specific point

[quasi torrent]

Col did more to reels from what i saw usually

depending on comp not irrelevant

but just play slayer, col rng is dogass

oh but col has more claim to PI cause u dump more during the col+ava+cs window TRUE

[charred brook]

i went slayer for my OAB kill and it felt much better than col

i did about 40-50 pulls as each spec

with the ramping damage amp, those reels just die so quickly

i usually get like 4 gcds on each one

i would get like an MS an OP and 2 executes

[hollow plover]

its a prog talent but its overall worse dps ya

[hollow plover]

bro madox i think if you cared more about your appearance than playing warrior you'd be majestic

did anyone ever tell you that?

cause man you facecard has hella potential

[dim basalt]

What did I just read

[magic canopy]

Weirdly enough not this first time I've been told this

[hollow plover]

im fanboying madox

you jelly?

[void bay]

What about my appearance

[hollow plover]

idk

[calm hollow]

we had a mugzee wipe at 20m hp, i had 11 parry on the pull, including 3 exe, 3 mortal, 1 Colossus (and even 1 impending victory)

good mechanic

[regal wharf]

least you arent target capped

[novel palm]

blizzard devs think that is a skill issue, u should have clearly just moved behind the boss

[boreal quartz]

it gives texture

[harsh sedge]

sim says this is better for dungeon slice but i thought the floodgate trinket was like mega good

should i trust the sim?

[tropic kestrel]

Is Slayer Juggernaut build viable at 15+ keys?

Or, is it Colossus all the way?

[magic canopy]

youd have to post the sime for us to know

[reef glade]

not having demolish prolly pretty troll for aoe

[magic canopy]

thats way too vauge

[magic canopy]

colossus v good

[reef glade]

dungeon slice is also just kinda bad no

might prio on use trinket with lust/cds on a boss followed by random trash

barely a difference anyway

[spiral coral]

No way you aren’t short and stocky and built like a brick shit house

[frosty ingot]

fellas, do you have heroic throw on your bar?

[calm hollow]

Mug'zee dead

[void bay]

Gz

[fresh spire]

letsgo

[halcyon breach]

It's not needed, but it's still a tool to do damage whenever you have downtime (it also can proc trinkets etc., if you have something like Eye of Kezan)

[quasi torrent]

wtf eye of banezi dropped????

[halcyon breach]

If you look on bloodmallet it's at the bottom

[potent creek]

also I can't imagine doing some open world or delve stuff without HT

handy in M+ to help tank gather pack without getting your face smashed too

[tulip walrus]

is it slayer or Colos for raid?

[magic canopy]

slayer

[gloomy forum]

So if im right reading the below - you are essentially using Execute X2 into a MS right? Never want to spam Execute more than X2 in a row?

[tacit crystal]

no you need to weave in Opp ops

[kind thunder]

u usually weave OP to not starve on rage and spend opportunist, but ye u mostly do Exe - Exe - MS... repeat

[gloomy forum]

When would you tend to weave in the OP? Would it be before you get to x2 stacks so for example - Exe - OP - Exe - MS?

[tacit crystal]

it could be anywhere

[kind thunder]

u could ye, it doesnt really matter where u put it

u dont lose stacks of executioner by pressing other things

[gloomy forum]

Right so aslong as your not overcapping on Exe stacks and Martial prowess stacks ios the main thing?

[tacit crystal]

its the most important thing unless you already have 2 ep

capping ep might happen as a result of excess rage or ms being on cd

the main thing is using ms on cd with 2 ep and using opp ops immediately

[gloomy forum]

Really? as prio lists shows is not as important MS with X2 EP stacks. So if MS is on CD you would still EXE regardlerss?

[kind thunder]

exe is filler on execute phase so ye

[tacit crystal]

yeah

[gloomy forum]

oh really

[tacit crystal]

opp op does a lot of damage

[gloomy forum]

my bad then i thought it was prio over all

[tacit crystal]

fishy...

[fresh spire]

if you cant MS when you got 2x of EP and you cant OP when you have opportunist you spam execute

[tacit crystal]

^

hi fishy

https://tenor.com/view/derp-derpfish-derp-fish-fish-funny-fish-gif-3995205937939854061

[fresh spire]

hi

[tacit crystal]

when the boss is at like 2%

do you spam executes or just so regular rotation

[fresh spire]

when you back prog for 2 hours

[tacit crystal]

oh nah

[mighty aurora]

throw that trinket out the window

cringy 2m cd trash

blegh

[quaint otter]

italian oooh

[hollow hearth]

Hello guys, is there a rule when to start cleaving and when to just mortal strike? And when do we just mortal strike with sweeping? (@ what target count) sorry for like the noobiest question ever probs but I struggle

[kind thunder]

3 or more = cleave
2 or less = mortal strike

[hollow hearth]

If its 3 targets and I have sweeping, do I still cleave or go mortal? and do I mortal without sweeping on 2 targets aswell? ❤️ thanks @kind thunder

[kind thunder]

3 targets u start cleaving cuz it does more dmg sweeping strikes just makes mortal strike hit an additional target (2)

[grand idol]

It really isn't very often you have to choose it's more of a delay. They both have a cooldown. Just because there are many targets doesn't mean you never hit MS.

[potent creek]

priority still matters cause of EB

[hollow hearth]

So even if I dont have sweeping we just mortal strike if its 2 targets?

[potent creek]

you ms - op - cleave

cleave instead of slam

[kind thunder]

never implied u never hit MS, u just prioritize cleave on 3 more

if cleave doesnt reset then u ms

and try to use overpower stacks to buff cleave

[sacred zodiac]

i am your opp 😈

[tacit crystal]

...

[hollow hearth]

so slam is literally only single target, correct?

[shadow ibex]

yes

[tacit crystal]

i mean you can press it in aoe if nothing else is up

[shadow ibex]

i would just clap to reapply

if u manage to get ms op cleave and tclap all on cd with no proc just bad luck

[tacit crystal]

i mean itll just happen

[rare kite]

very rarely. don't think it happened at all the last dungeon i did

[tacit crystal]

i prob just forget tc exists

after every first time i press it in a pull

or i just only do 10s on my war where nothing lives past a 2nd tc or theres 1 target

[kind thunder]

ye ithink ive never pressed slam on aoe

maybe is one of those one of a kind moments

jackpot type sho

[icy mulch]

Me looking for some hope for Fury.

[tacit crystal]

nerfs

[icy mulch]

Arms got one, in the graphics department.

[severe haven]

[onyx sierra]

is there a weapon swing timer addon that isnt't broken

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/weaponswingtimer this one is very broken

no wonder, it's for classic lmao

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-fail-funny-animals-jump-hop-gif-11141106

[onyx sierra]

but yes, if anyone knows a weapon swing timer, please show me or tell me about it

[shadow ibex]

you can make one pretty easily with weak auras

swing timer is even one of the premade things you can track with a bar

its like 3/4 clicks

[onyx sierra]

oh sick

didn't realize it was a premade

[shadow ibex]

idr offhand in which menu but im an idiot and i made one at the start of DF that's been working since

[onyx sierra]

i can't find it in the premade page

[icy mulch]

Yeah, I going hungry. lol. Did you go look at all the comments on your video?

[magic canopy]

not yet but i KNOW im gonna get blasted

[icy mulch]

Nah, not really.

[onyx sierra]

i did find one on wago though, it came bundled with a bunch of stuff but i'm just gonna delete the rest and keep the swing timer

[magic canopy]

i got 43 comment holy shit

that is like 4x the usual amount

[onyx sierra]

can u export the off-hand one to me?

please

[nova marsh]

Me looking for hope for wow (that shit died 5 xpacks ago!)

[onyx sierra]

5 xpacs ago as in it died in warlords or it died in legion

[nova marsh]

Wod

I'm being overdramatic

[onyx sierra]

maybe dramatic but not overdramatic

[nova marsh]

Really was more like bfa or shadowlands but that feels like 5 xpacks ago at this point

[onyx sierra]

wod was the wow killer

bfa and sl was like beating a dead horse literally

[latent moss]

mmorpgs died 10 years ago

[onyx sierra]

ffxiv wants a word with u

they have more players than wow the last time i checked (which was either during SL or DF)

[latent moss]

yeah sl cause everyone went from wow to it

and they offered free trial

and also people like asmon were glazing it hard

[nova marsh]

Is wow still.below 1 mill players?

[latent moss]

sl had a massive content drought and was just awful in general and that scandal with abusing women at work

[nova marsh]

If not....wows winning that game

[onyx sierra]

no idea

[nova marsh]

Yeah same. Dead game

[onyx sierra]

where do we even go to check wow and xiv's current players

[nova marsh]

Dead class

[latent moss]

cant i think

[onyx sierra]

the information i was given was... well, given lol

[latent moss]

at least u cant for wow

[nova marsh]

Nowhere. Blizzard hasn't posted them since wod, 14 never did, and the rumor about 14 dipping below a million players during dawntrail (which wouldn't surprise me cuz its kinda dogshit) is just a rumor atm

[latent moss]

but i think people did some math and tww had a lot of players on release

like a LOT

[nova marsh]

Kinda unfair comparison

[onyx sierra]

what's wrong with dawntrail

[nova marsh]

a lot

[latent moss]

tww retention is good tho

which stats show as well

a lot more people continue playing after first month or so

either way for most its not a game u play all day every day

[nova marsh]

To break it down into the basics: 14s weakest story since arr probally, poor combat, the game having a fucking awful content realrse schedule

[latent moss]

patch drops -> do the content get aotc/curve/ksm/ksh/title/glad/ce/hof w/e and quit

[nova marsh]

This is wows cycle in general

[latent moss]

people are alting much more

this expac

cause alting is so easy

[onyx sierra]

i've never cared about xiv story, only their combat

[latent moss]

idk i tried xiv i dont like the combat

feels like vanilla

but i tried it in 2021

maybe they changed something

[onyx sierra]

i like ninja

nothing like it in wow

so fun

[latent moss]

for me wows weakest point

is how bland specs are

[nova marsh]

And the combat is extremely stale because the entire game is balanced around the 2 minute meta

[latent moss]

arms warrior is this martial expert with like

infinite precision and power

and there is literally nothing

[nova marsh]

Tbh I think wow still has a good amount of flavor

[latent moss]

in the kit that plays around it

[nova marsh]

At least in comparison to any other mmo I've played

[latent moss]

it could be so much ore

more

is what im sying

[nova marsh]

I also think arms is the worst example of a wow special because it is absoutlely the most bland spec in the entire game

Arms is like plain white rice

[latent moss]

arms literally has infinite design potential

i swear you could do anything with it

[onyx sierra]

xiv has monk and ninja and wow has literally what lol

[nova marsh]

I genuinely question how those are different from any other 14 class other then "I go fast"

Idk maybe I'm fucking crazy

[onyx sierra]

ninja has the whole muda thing or w.e it's called

monk has like

alternating rotation idk it's weird

but different

ninja has the kanji combos overhead that makes diff abilities

it literally feels like ur playing a naruto ninja or something

[nova marsh]

Maybe it's bevause I could never stand playing 14s dps because it's basically putting all your hopes and dreams on your healer not letting you eat shit

cough drg and viper

No defensives in 2025 is as wild as priest healers still not having an interrupt

Which btw blizz is still kinda trash why

[onyx sierra]

healers in xiv also feel better to me personally, at least when i compare whm and priest

[nova marsh]

I hate healing with a passion so I have no ball in that park

Tanks and dps just feel samey. Specially tanks which is the only role i actually like

[onyx sierra]

chad

a lot of the dps does feel samey, that's why i like ninja and monk tbh

just feels like somethin different

[nova marsh]

Kinda why I like paladin

I liked it more BEFORE we had the stupidest opener in any game ever and then got reworked

[onyx sierra]

xiv pally or wow pally

[nova marsh]

14 pally

Popping flight or fight....18 seconds before pull

No I'm not joking. THAT WAS OPTIMAL

[onyx sierra]

i know nothing about that pally

actually all my xiv knowledge is like 80% ninja 10% whm and 10% monk lol

[nova marsh]

Pre rework it was your physical damage increase

You popped it so early so you could get your dot combo in

Then go into magic phase with raid buffs.

I never did this cuz its even more stupid then df s2 warrior using ignore pain as an offensive button

I think the longest wow had was when UDK needed full army up before pull

And that was like a 10-13 sec pull timer

[onyx sierra]

that's based tho

necromancy ftw

[shrewd niche]

Is there anyway to avoid charging inside of mugzee during his intermission ?
Am I charging too early or is his character too high when spinning

[grand idol]

The only surefire way I have found is to wait until he's done moving.

[deft osprey]

blademaster's or warlord's torment for m+?

also 2x bloodborne over finishing blows & ep?

[minor gust]

both questions are just more ST vs more AOE choose what you want

[deft osprey]

Hmm ok. Critcake does warlords & bloodborne so ima try that

[swift crown]

As Raggu said wait until he's done charging, the movement prediction on moving enemies puts you inside their hitbox a lot of the time when charging which obviously is fatal on Mugzee. When in doubt, simply don't charge.

It's much better to lose a few GCDs to not charging than to die there, judge your angle, where swirlies are and then decide if charging is worth. Worst case you can leap a set where you're not sure

[median scroll]

how do you prevent a raidbots sim from equipping double crafted rings?

[somber geyser]

u can say how many sparks/crests u have available near the top

[median scroll]

but if the biggest upgrade is the two rings it will fill the ring slot with the sparks, no?

[eager sigil]

it wont use more sparks than you have access to

[median scroll]

Yes

but like

lets say you have 2 sparks

if the ring slots are both the best upgrade to replace with crafted

it will use both

[eager sigil]

then you make 1 and then sim again

[slow saddle]

i tried guys

a 10 meadery as slayer arms

Reap the storm being my 2nd most dmg 😄

[dim basalt]

But how much dps

[slow saddle]

3m

[dim basalt]

[slow saddle]

ngl aoe is rough my man

one can only press cleave so much

and no col to carry the dmg

i guess i could go WB instead of cs

its so shit man but hey i tied 😛

[muted tree]

ideal combo for arms warrior in m+?

classes i mean

comp

[tacit crystal]

full phys

[muted tree]

so hunter?

monk

isnt shammy good?>

[humble brook]

Druid, monk, shaman, and any class using ap.

You can check Vegansquish team, its a good one.

[muted tree]

cool thnx man

[dim basalt]

Sham is not really part of a full phys comp tho

[humble brook]

But shaman give you mastery buff.

And enhan shaman use attack power.

[dim basalt]

If youre actually going for a proper phys comp you dont wanna take sham

[humble brook]

Still can match with warr.

[zenith lodge]

Guardian druid, arms/fury warrior, outlaw/sin rogue, hunter, mistweaver monk is the most used I think for a full physical comp

[tacit crystal]

shaman buff is probably the strongest one in the game rn

wf + 2% mastery is disgusting on

phys

[silver mica]

Anyone using this?

bloodmallet has it listed over everything at 3 targets

[quaint otter]

U gotta sim

Anyway the diff is minor

[slow saddle]

ye remove monk add shaman

[naive sage]

Totemic enha benefits a lot from battle shout
Sb a little less but both ascendance (windstrike) and primordial storm scale with ap

[safe vigil]

It's a gain on aoe, loss on st

[grim anchor]

On aoe should I prioritize MS or overpower? Does it differ if I have sweeping strikes up?

[slow saddle]

Hmm so in gen ms

[teal fossil]

They both benefit exactly the same from shout

[hollow plover]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ej5iRHcgVRw7zrpoQMmt8p

"YEA GO NEARLY 20K MASTERY PLEASE DO IT ITS REALLY GOOD"

Sadge

wait i trolled i simmed 90secs

we prayge i get to use more crit and haste now

[naive sage]

I didn't explain well, I meant, sb relies more on spenders than totemic which prioritizes sundering and lava lash and the totem itself does physical dmg

[hazy flower]

doesnt matter

[quaint otter]

shout gives AP not phys dam

[hollow plover]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dyqZRpoVCLj8zES2LiTVSK

[hazy flower]

they both benefit exact same from battle shout

[hollow plover]

saved

Prayge

[hazy flower]

just sim

[slow saddle]

Battleshout nerf, only apply ap to phys dmg spells

[teal fossil]

Worse mystic touch

Actually no still better mystic touch

Because you don’t have to touch the mob

[nova marsh]

So warriors become useless

[slow saddle]

Warrior is to good

We are above augs

[slow saddle]

Wth

Ppl playing slayer?

[hollow plover]

arms doesnt feel very good on OAB, if you play colossus ravager build on OAB then you dont have much burst on the adds the boss spawns with about half the time. You either get to 10 stacks before they die or you don't. If you don't, you're kinda struggling. You also need really good AM usage to have ravager up for the small adds that spawn

[karmic briar]

hey in an strictly single target situation while on a cleave m+ build. do i use slam inbetweens ms and overpower cds or do i just keep using cleave ?

[hollow plover]

i havent tried bladestorm or slayer yet so idk

[hollow plover]

slam is ur filler unless execute phase

[karmic briar]

thx

just wasnt sure if cleave would get something off even in a st situation

[hollow plover]

if you have collateral damage saved up and your Ravager is coming up then you can send a thick cleave on a boss fight, shit can slap up to 7mil

but like

that doesnt happen very often

[karmic briar]

yeah i did take that in account

well i just wanted confirmation that i wasnt wasting something by using slam on m+ st situation

[hollow plover]

yerr

slam is filler, unless execute phase - then execute is your filler

SwagCool

[wanton sierra]

hey, i enabled cooldown mananger by mother blizzard and i deleted my arms WA

thinkin it would be replaced, but i noticed that cd mananger by mother blizz isnt great, we cant configure it right

[slow saddle]

Well gl havin no fun

[hollow plover]

you jumped ship way too fast

lol

[wanton sierra]

but now i disabled it and i got no WA... do you have some to share

[slow saddle]

Mother blizzard decides what u wany to use

That is how it works

[wanton sierra]

yes i learned the hard way

belular said "omg now wa shall fall" and i thought this wa by blizzard would be awesome

its good, but lacks configuration

[slow saddle]

Lol u are jokin r?

Listening to the heroic raider

That just started doin 10 keys?

I do watch as well🤣

[wanton sierra]

i mean, when i have to do the dishes i put it on the tv and i just listen

[slow saddle]

I usually watch the crack cocaine couple

Evertell?

Or well listen🤣

[wanton sierra]

crack and cocaine couple... is it the marcilian xD ?

im jokin... but i still need some good arms WA

askin for the gods here

[slow saddle]

Luxthos

Is decent

[wanton sierra]

ill look for it... ty gokke

[slow saddle]

Or wtf his name is

https://wago.io/SkBHabbrQ

[wanton sierra]

behold!

yes ty gokke, its quite nice this one

[hollow plover]

i hate this wa pack ngl

[wanton sierra]

do you got another option, kronzo?

the pack aura is fine, but idk its kinda heavy aura

[hollow plover]

Well - luxthos WA packs are generally not very good off-rip because they include everything, you need to customize them or it shows too much information. It changes some icon based on some modifiers that dont even affect gameplay, mostly because he doesnt play warrior

[wanton sierra]

dont hate my binds, i learned to play that way long time ago xD

[hollow plover]

I made my own UI

shrug

[wanton sierra]

i agree

i dont remember where did i get my last arms wa

it might be on critcake stream

[hollow plover]

I personally used Publik's fury weakaura grouping layout when i first started using weakauras, to learn how to customize them and whatnot. I turned this grouping layout in conjunction with ElvUI into a default for every spec in the game

big chilling

[gray herald]

luxthos is set up in a way that is very easy and intuitive to customise tbf

[slow saddle]

I like seeing all my cds

[gray herald]

and you definitely should customise it yourself

[slow saddle]

And i just remove non essentiaø

[gray herald]

turn off a lot of buffs that dont affect things, reposition icons, add in warrior weakauras like execute conditionals

[slow saddle]

Kaching!!!

[gray herald]

very straight forward to do, I dont think any packs are great "off-rip" unless they're specifically designed and kept up to date by players of those specs

i think hunter and dh have good examples of those

[hollow plover]

Yea but he doesnt really tell you that you should. It's kind of up to the user to do it and I'd imagine that most just dont

[slow saddle]

I mean even baselevel isnt to bad

Vs none

[gray herald]

on his website they are positioned as "fully customisable" and each page has a video for "installation and customisation" telling people how to customise

i never watched one so idk how much detail he goes in

[slow saddle]

Worst part is 1 being op

Ms must be 1 coz its nr. 1!

🤣

[vast drum]

No no Mortal Strike should be Q and OP should be E

trust

[hollow plover]

I heavily recommend not wasting very commonly used keybinds (R and G) on buttons that you arent using

[nova marsh]

Mouse?

[fast wharf]

im confused, are you specd into ravager or bladestorm?

[eager sigil]

ravager

[hollow plover]

his macro icon is set to bladestorm instead of showtooltipping the icon

[fast wharf]

yikes

[sacred zodiac]

wdym yikes

[fast wharf]

i mean its ugly

[sacred zodiac]

its a button on an actionbar no one looks at that lol

[icy zinc]

Are arms AoE damage a bit lacking in m+? I do good ST but always fall behind in AoE and bring pretty lackluster overall damage as a result. Or am I just playing wrong in AoE?

[sacred zodiac]

im p sure one of mine still has gavel bound

[hollow plover]

arms is pretty good in aoe, not goated status, but very very good

so if you're lacking in aoe then it might just be you

[icy zinc]

Guess I'm doing something wrong then.

[hollow plover]

you're always free to seek advice in #1347646810457636974

or in the chats here

ig

[fast wharf]

wym noone looks at it, this started with a screenshot of the action bars and "behold"

[sacred zodiac]

showing off the weakaura set above it no

[icy zinc]

I'm using the colosus build from dps-faqs I assume that is up to date?

[hollow plover]

yuh

[sacred zodiac]

ppl have started swapping the avatar gives reck talent to the avatar gives sweep talent

[hollow plover]

yea but that's not very likely the reason why Jodon here might say he's lacking in aoe

[fast wharf]

the cleave cd reduction from blademsters is nice

[icy zinc]

Nah, it would be something bigger if my talents was the problem 🙂

Will have to save some logs from tonight and maybe I can get some help.

[rose matrix]

When I started out on Arms I was misusing Collateral Damage

[sacred zodiac]

very much worth watching a vod from some top m+ minigamer noober and seeing how they play on mass aoe packs

[rose matrix]

Could be that

[hollow plover]

ye good point, if you don't know how to play around collateral damage yet then that might be why you're missing out on a lot of aoe

also properly stacking demolish and not randomly holding it

simple fixes

[minor gust]

A lot of new player arms mistakes is not always hitting every target with cleave and demolish

Even without playing around collateral at all you should have good aoe

[hollow plover]

yea thats true

also the fact that demolish doesnt hit behind you

most people dont know that

[icy zinc]

How do you play around collateral Damage? Is it not just that you get one big cleave at the end of sweeping strikes?

[hollow plover]

thats how it works but the idea is that you wanna get a setup for a BIG cleave, aka meat grinder + warbreaker + mastery already applied + etc

[icy zinc]

The range thing may be a issue though. I played outlaw most of dragonflight. Which was pretty much infinit "melee" range. I may not be adjusting properly for the much shorter range now.

I have not really planned my warbreaker around sweeping strikes ending tbh. I could be missing some big damage there. Unless they naturally lines up pretty well.

[hollow plover]

that type of gameplay is what gives you the edge in higher keys

if you're doing 10s - 15s then you can get away just pressing your buttons as they come up

Im curious, do you know the arms aoe opener by heart?

[teal fossil]

well you optimally want your warbreaker in demolish

[icy zinc]

I would go TC, cleave, roar, avatar sweeping strikes, warbreaker, cleave and from there Pretty much just whatever is upp.

[teal fossil]

That’s most important

If not then big cleave

[hollow plover]

why would you avatar before clicking a damage button

[sacred zodiac]

gotta avatar the sweep press

[icy zinc]

Get all the dots up first? They dont snapshot right?

[teal fossil]

No snapshot

[minor gust]

You were close but hold ava until you press warbreaker

Also forgot rav

[shadow ibex]

Sweep the tclap for more applications

[hexed snow]

About to hit mugzee up on mythic

Any tips?

[hollow plover]

dont hold cooldowns thinking you need to drop uptime when dipping into fire for frost boots. The boss should move with frost arrow targets in a way where you get to keep uptime when u get targeted

thats what i learned after talking to spongie

[hexed snow]

Super valid tip

[hollow plover]

i was in group 1 during last mugzee prog, the group where both tanks are as well so I just yapped with them in party chat 24/7 talking about boss position to help out melee POV

i swear /p chat is the funniest thing during raids

like you got your own tent during a class trip

5 lads hanging out

[teal fossil]

Have they still not fixed that

[tacit crystal]

this is me just whispering swordish mid raid

[hollow plover]

😏

[tacit crystal]

bro i ran it down so hard last raid

that reminds me

i need to mute half of my raid

fuck

why cant i change their volume when im not in a call

zzz

[jolly frost]

just did a delve and got hero mechano core and champo funhouse in the same run

wasnt on my warrior

[tacit crystal]

who plays warrior anyways

[jolly frost]

dont want them anyway i'd rather stick with my Mark of Khardos for even longer

[tacit crystal]

oh nah

[shadow ibex]

Don't think so

I also play blademaster so just habit to use early

[tacit crystal]

??

what cursed bug is that

@shadow ibex

[hollow plover]

Weirdge

u mad weird for that

[tacit crystal]

nah

its crazy how strong that trinket is for my spec

[jolly frost]

i dont actually i just havent had anything drop

[hollow plover]

you have the option to be in dungeons 24/7

[teal fossil]

Need more passion for your favorite video game

[shadow ibex]

Sweeping doubles tclap rends

[tacit crystal]

xdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[shadow ibex]

And the blademaster and real sweeping can eat each other if you use in wrong order

[hollow plover]

hey hey hey dont say that

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/flip-witherspoon-boomerang-gif-10283485

[tacit crystal]

isnt it just roar ss ava cs

so it just never munches ss

[bright ginkgo]

You can do this?

Or did i miss sarcasm somewhere

[shadow ibex]

I'm and sweep during charge

[icy zinc]

Is it worth it to hold warbreaker for Collateral damage in AoE? and if so how long?

[cinder pasture]

does anyone know how i avoid charging through the boss on mug'zee intermission?

[tacit crystal]

wait until he stops moving

[cinder pasture]

tyty

[shadow ibex]

How the fuck Diablo get berserk content

And we don't

Man what the fuck is this

[fresh spire]

REAL TECH

found this out the hard way last night 😄

[misty sandal]

Dks been asking the same thing since Diable got frostmourne before we could in WoW

[cosmic fossil]

[hollow plover]

im assigned to second mugzee prison

Deadge

[shadow ibex]

same but only for as long as my VE portal exists

im only in there for like 5 globals then i port out

[naive sage]

There is the Dragon Slayer in Maldraxxus

Not usable of course

Just part of the ground items

[shadow ibex]

lame

call me the king of want

the way i want the berserker armor

[bright scarab]

In the M+ Colossus Arms spec do we use Avatar before Ravager? Avatar still buffs Ravager right?

And ideally we want to spam as many abilities in cleave during that window to stack Collateral Damage?

So like Sweeping Strikes, Avatar, Warbreaker, Ravager, Cleave or MS then Demolish at 10 stacks?

[slow saddle]

No

Read opener😊

[honest forge]

ravager before warbreaker

[bright scarab]

Where is the opener posted?

[zenith warren]

why are 1m30 cds are not being reset on wipe reeeeeeeeeee

[slow saddle]

Charge-cleave-stomp-roar-rav-sweep-wb-cleave?

[bright scarab]

Where is thunder clap?

[honest forge]

stomp is prob clap

[bright scarab]

Avatar before sweep?

[slow saddle]

No

Ava after wb

[bright scarab]

Ok I was asking because Shirlys video said it’s after Ravager and I was wondering if it was worth doing Avatar before Ravager

[slow saddle]

Nono

Rav doesnt do dmg

Unhinged does some ofc

[bright scarab]

We mostly use ravager to buff up collateral damage stacks?

[slow saddle]

Demo stacks

As well

[bright scarab]

Ok

[slow saddle]

Its still good.dmg btw

[honest forge]

this is the wowhead opener, but that is wrong? or am i tripping?

[bright scarab]

So we don’t care to use Avatar before Thunderous Roar or Ravager as much as before

Yeah looks right

Well idk who is right which is why I’m asking

Maybe sweeping strikes before Avatar and Warbreaker

Then Ravager into MS and Cleave spam until 10 demostacks

[slow saddle]

I wanna push dmg spells in my wb window

[honest forge]

i think ravager before or after warbreaker is the only thing we are talking about here, everything else is fine

and its probably not a huge deal, i just checked warcraftlogs on a random +17 and hes doing it whenever

[hollow plover]

i dont play lame races like elves

[bright scarab]

Actually wait I figured it out

We want to sweeping strikes before ravager

If we play with blademasters torment

[dim basalt]

Blademasters

[bright scarab]

That’s not good?

Only good for packs?

[dim basalt]

Its fine

Personally I dont think we need even more aoe

[bright scarab]

We play Warlords always then?

[dim basalt]

imo it is better ye

[bright scarab]

High keys Warlords?

Below then whatever?

[shadow ibex]

Play whatever you want to do more of

[bright scarab]

This is solely for the discussion of m+ obviously

Well I was trying to figure out if we use avatar before ravager

[hollow plover]

you should not avatar before ravager unless you are forced to due to that one torment talent

[bright scarab]

If we already have sweeping strikes up then we ravager before avatar right?

So then it’s sweeping strikes i to ravager into avatar into warbreaker

[slow saddle]

Always blademasters

🤣

[bright scarab]

What do you mean always blademaster

[slow saddle]

Torment

[bright scarab]

Always use it?

[slow saddle]

In m+

[bright scarab]

Warlords is good for ST and priority damage no?

[slow saddle]

Blademasters better prio

In 2 target. Imho

Those 6 seconds of reck is gone so fast

Well at least for me most bosses have some pad

[rare kite]

warlords good in rookery for last boss

[latent moss]

u funnel quite hard

with 2t

[slow saddle]

U can make into big cleaves

[latent moss]

exhil is massive

[quaint otter]

Who cares about priority on in not top notch keys

Just pump

[latent moss]

much more colossal might stacks etc

[slow saddle]

With blademasters

U can cleave so hard

Its lovw

[latent moss]

u just spam ms at 2t

i swear it like

perma resets

[slow saddle]

Kek

[hollow plover]

40% no?

[agile crown]

guys should i use wrecking throw vs hero gally?

[tranquil tinsel]

Could anyone give a quick tldr on why Eye of Kezan is good on arms for dungeons? I’m fairly certain I’ve read for other specs the uptime can be an issue. Got one from weekly cache and haven’t played warr yet this season.

[dire hinge]

you shouldn't use Eye of Kezan for dungeons, no. It rapidly loses stacks when you're out of combat and takes minutes for it to build up strength again. It's a decent raid trinket for longer fights, but it's not good for dungeons.

[tranquil tinsel]

Thank you. I was misinformed 👍

[opaque hinge]

no ❤️

[dire hinge]

you can if you want to, but it's not required. At this time only 4% of the top 100 arms heroic parses use it

[agile crown]

ty guys 😄

[hollow plover]

im curious who told u to use eye of kezan in keys

[slate jolt]

is tauren a good choice for arms? yeah i know it doesnt really matter since i dont plan on pushing very high m+ but just wondered. some people say orc for pure dmg and some say tauren for the extra crit strike dmg

[hollow plover]

orc doesnt even do the most dmg

kekW

[potent creek]

also if M+ is considered it's NE or bust

[hollow plover]

Tauren is one of the better performing arms races

[hollow plover]

nah thats cope unless ur doing top100 level keys

[slate jolt]

wanted a horde side character since i only played alliance till now

[potent creek]

well you either fotm or vibe

[hollow plover]

the race will absolutely never matter for you unless you do hyper niché content

and even then the difference from best race to worst race is like what? 50k dps at optimal performance?

[slate jolt]

alright thanks

[dire hinge]

pick whichever one you think looks coolest

[tranquil tinsel]

Just a buddy of mine in discord when I got it. He doesn’t know any better but he’s harmless lol he probably looked at bloodmallet.

[hollow plover]

imma be deadass, pick a race that you think you can get a banger transmog on

[hollow plover]

bloodmallet is context-avoidant information

Prayge

[slate jolt]

is tauren looking hella good with some nice transmog?

[tranquil tinsel]

I’m aware

That’s why I asked someone here

[dire hinge]

❤️

[hollow plover]

everyone has diff taste lol

[tranquil tinsel]

It’s not even a relevant reference point

[hollow plover]

you're a smart fella

[tranquil tinsel]

lol that’s a hard concept for people to get

[tranquil tinsel]

That’s a scary thing to hear. It’s worse than I thought nowadays isn’t it.

[flat willow]

people that play orc do it cuz it's the best looking race

[dire hinge]

i love big men's shoulders

[flat willow]

the bigger the shoulderpads, the better

[ivory harbor]

Hi guys, if I sim 5 mins and raid bots still asks me to use heroic eye of kezan. It is prob still better than my heroic mechano core correct?

I’m concerned cos I thought eye needs to ramp but somehow out performing my mechano core.

[hollow plover]

People come in here asking why they don't deal damage and then they end up having 15% or more downtime on a boss fight

[ivory harbor]

Am asking since I’m still progging raid

[dire hinge]

try it again with 6min fight timer 🙂

eye does need to ramp a bit

if you're killing the boss in 5min or under, it might genuinely be a good idea to use something else and that's ok

[ivory harbor]

Okay I will try it again, thank you Hrothmar 😊

[hollow plover]

yuh eye of kezan slightly beats out mechano core amp by a tiny bit on longer fights

[ivory harbor]

Thank u Kronzo

[dire hinge]

of course friend! Just look at your expected kill time (either from reclears, or from your prog pulls) to get a more accurate comparison

[honest forge]

if youre progging, isnt it also important to look good on the 2 minute wipes? gotta flex in front of your guild

[ivory harbor]

I’ll sim again

[hollow plover]

Weirdge

[dire hinge]

gotta love pre-execute performance comparisons 😂

[hollow plover]

I was approached recently why my damage wasnt that great on a 45% mugzee mythic wipe

Angry_cat

[dire hinge]

"im cookin just gimme a sec"

[tranquil tinsel]

Yeah it’s just a difficult question to answer tbh because there are so many missing components required for that concept of uptime to stick. That’s before they can practice implementing it. @hollow plover

No disrespect of course

[vast drum]

When does a sim go into execute phase? 70% of the way through? Or does it not at all? For ST Patchwork 5min

[hollow plover]

Also gotta love the people who claim they put in hella effort to improve just to then open fights incorrectly

had a bunch of those

[viscid geode]

Hey all, running sims on my char shows a crafted necklace to be my best option atm so i was gonna get one made. I am not seeing on raidbots how to sim the different embellishments for necklaces, but I am assuming prismatic null stone would be the best option?

[hollow plover]

idk "stay glued on the boss" is a pretty simple concept

[hollow plover]

you p much never want to embellish your neck

[viscid geode]

Ahh forgot you can only have 2, thanks

[hollow plover]

unless you skipped previous crafts

[tranquil tinsel]

Yep, it’s about as basic as it gets. I could understand if it’s a brand new player like first time ever playing idk any game lol.

[hollow plover]

brother

there was a guy who had a complete mental breakdown

saying its impossible for him to improve after playing wow for like 14 years or whatever he said

we asked him to practice the opener on a dummy, since his opener was off

and he gave up after 20mins of failing

[potent creek]

👴

[tranquil tinsel]

Well at least he acknowledges his life struggles. Good news is it’s manageable. Some people don’t want to be helped.

[hollow plover]

yuh

[wanton sierra]

hey, i was working so i coudnt pay attention here, but i noticed the mentions about my binds... i agree on that point that says that i sohuld replace my sks and intshout coz they are untalented... yes i use a bunch of macros and that one is both ravager and bs on the same button...

nothing special, they are all in the macros tab faq

i learned to play that way

thanks for the tips, i want to improve ^^

[sacred zodiac]

Should be linearly decreasing the boss HP so 35% of the sim time remaining is execute

[vast drum]

Got it ty

[dire hinge]

bindings dont matter too much as long as your'e being nice to your hands and it works for your own brain ❤️

[wanton sierra]

true! nicely said

hey hrothmar are u pushing score this season?

i feel behind, now i got tons of work to do

[dire hinge]

Unfortunately no, this season I'm taking a break while i focus on some IRL things (work, possibly moving in with my partner, etc)

but things are good ❤️ vibes are great

[wanton sierra]

oh damn! huge step bro! i wish all the bests for you, your partner and your entire new household

[dire hinge]

yeah! there's never a 'good' time to take a break, but man this season seems like a blast

[wanton sierra]

shiet dont mind my english mistakes xD omg let me fix it

[dire hinge]

oh you're fine, i promise

[wanton sierra]

yes, im not playing too much so only heroic raid and a few dungeons... i manage to step on the 15s now

but tuff to get invited

[dire hinge]

hell yeah, im just tanking 10s for my guild like twice a week for vault and if i get lucky in vault i'll take it as a win 😂

[wanton sierra]

xD! even with 3 vaults i get nothing!! every crafted iten with replace on vault, i got myth gear on the bag... not very lucky this season

[dire hinge]

haha same mood, im very behind on gear this season, but that's okay, I don't have a need for the gear either. I find myself getting anxious because im not full mythic geared yet, but i have to remember that the vault-only approach is so, so much slower than raiding and that's okay

[spiral coral]

Season is still long tbh

Plenty of time to chill

Glad everything is good mate:)

[nova marsh]

Hi hrothmar

[regal wharf]

holy shit

like how

are they a hekili addict

[tacit crystal]

if you dont train your brain you have to relearn how to learn

[nova marsh]

It's okay to have a skill issur

Being trash is bis

[formal badge]

hi guys, why not use ravager with slayer ?

[rare kite]

i mean you can on some fights. it's not that bad. for actually answering the question tho is that alot of the hero tree does not work with ravager

but since bladestorm itself is so weak playing ravager on st is a small st loss overall(but more damage in execute phase)

[nocturne oracle]

How does arms compare to fury in raid

[rare kite]

better on some fights, worse on others. they are basically equal overall

[nocturne oracle]

ty

[spiral coral]

No they said that Hekili and Maxdps made their dps worse

And then came here to understand why

It was, truly glorious seeing how nice everyone was when they were lobbing balls over home plate for people to knock out of the park with an insult but no one did until it devolved into really odd personal shit

[jade cargo]

@wanton sierrahey manki

[gusty eagle]

Guys are there any spells i should just take out of my bar?

[minor gust]

Whirlwind

[shadow ibex]

too soon

[gusty eagle]

Guys having full uptime in a fight of juggernaut fights possible or just luck dependant?

[shadow ibex]

luck and using SD procs to extend

also ads you can execute

[topaz spade]

Hello guys, does anyone know what are the softcaps for stats?

[dim basalt]

No, theyre not really relevant for us anyway

[rustic wing]

What is the target count and rules that dictate using Mortal Strike vs Cleave?

[thick kelp]

1-2 MS 3+ Cleave

[wicked aurora]

send MS on CD tho when Sweeping is up yeah? behind cleave prio?

[thick kelp]

you send ms on cd regardless of ss

in 3+

[topaz spade]

so still focus on crit haste? Im coming froma Fury Build so have a lot of Mastery, ST Dummy test was 1.9m dps, Sim is givigng 2.4m dps

[dim basalt]

Just sim your gear and take whats best - also keep in mind that sims usually have every buff while you dont on a dummy

[grim anchor]

Does overpower have priority over MS in aoe?

[topaz spade]

I know I know, but im putting more dmg on arms while on fury with the same gear thats bit suspicious

[dim basalt]

no

[dim basalt]

Is it tho

[grim anchor]

Cleave > MS > overpower ?

[dim basalt]

At 3+ targets yes

[hollow plover]

Dont tell them that tclap is actually prio‘d over ms outside of ss

[thick kelp]

thats like saying dont tell them that rend is sometimes priod over ms in st

[weak orbit]

is there macro for ravenger and stuff ofr arms m+

[eager sigil]

/cast ravager

can add [@cursor]

[weak orbit]

i havent played in a long time and there as a one button macro button for cds.. is that not the same anymore.. sorry took long break

[tacit crystal]

no

[dim basalt]

speaking of buttons

Can we appreciate for one moment that we are not playing SKS

[quaint otter]

Yes daddy

[fiery leaf]

hello everyone ,

back after a year , for sims , are we running Dungeon slice for M+ ? Patchwerk 5min for ST ?

thanks !

[hollow plover]

Everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt, also dungeon slice is finnicky

I do use dungeon slice sims at times but I check 90sec 5tar and 10tar sims also

the more references you have, the better your understanding will be

[whole steppe]

There is no way to disenchant a crafted item and getting crests right..

[thick kelp]

nope

[hollow plover]

not about rend

[whole steppe]

What does overpower do during sweeping strikes?

[tacit crystal]

huh

[whole steppe]

new on arms this season

[tacit crystal]

it does what overpower does without it

[hollow plover]

it's just that overpower deals dam to 2 targets instead of just 1

[tacit crystal]

hi

i cant sleep

help

[whole steppe]

wait a second there was a thing like overpower does 5 target dmg or something else

is it removed and if it is, why

[hollow plover]

i just woke up

at a healthy 9am

get diffed

[tacit crystal]

are you in england

[hollow plover]

theres a talent node that send small damaging aoe wave out in front of you

[tacit crystal]

er

uk

[hollow plover]

im german gio

[tacit crystal]

w duestche

[hollow plover]

I don't speak english

dentge

[tacit crystal]

can you translate a song for me

[whole steppe]

i gotta read every changes i guess

i am doing wrong on aoe apparently

i was still thinking my op is aoe

[thick kelp]

Old prio

[tacit crystal]

gm walhe

[thick kelp]

gm gala57

[tacit crystal]

i cant sleep

help

[hollow plover]

ya

always

[tacit crystal]

Der Vogelfänger bin ich ja
Stets lustig heissa hopsasa!
Ich Vogelfänger bin bekannt
Bei Alt und Jung im ganzen Land
🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[hollow plover]

real gaming shit right there

[hollow plover]

The birdcatcher I am, yeah
Always funny, hey yea hey (heissa hopsasa is some fucking garbo that doesnt have a translation, its just something that very old or very southern german speaking people say when they say some shit like "hey" or "let's go" and it's very underused nowadays idfk)
Me, the birdcatcher, I'm known
by old and young in the entire land/country

weird lyrics

no cap

[naive sage]

Dreadnaught talent, severely undertuned, don’t use

[quaint otter]

It scaled

[tacit crystal]

w song

[hollow plover]

old aaaah song

[tacit crystal]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5TujdkThvTsFVXdfAm5rgh?si=TnVAs5UBQAyrACLK4kRaYw

[hollow plover]

yea

old aaaaah song

[tacit crystal]

w song

[hollow plover]

are you one of those americans that really really wanna feel european

or smth

[tacit crystal]

nah

i remember going to see the magic flute while in high school and that song stood out to me

[quaint otter]

Feeling European is easy

Just take 2 coffees and 3 cigs for breakfast

[hollow plover]

that's eastern european and french, we don't count that

[tacit crystal]

can you sing the song for me please

[hollow plover]

he can't lol

I can

[dim basalt]

Only works if youre older than 30

[hollow plover]

i had to learn it in school

YEPPERS

[tacit crystal]

do it

[quaint otter]

No i only can "sing" some punk shit

[hollow plover]

no thats the average 25yo breakfast in eastern europe and france

[hollow plover]

why

[dim basalt]

Eastern europe maybe ye

[tacit crystal]

because good song

[hollow plover]

is not that good

[tacit crystal]

currently singing it to myself

[quaint otter]

Lunch

[hollow plover]

I can give u pronunciation help at best but i sure aint singing it to you

😭

[tacit crystal]

0 reason for me to learn pronunciation for it atm

i found the english lyrics i picked out to learn it

threes a problem

[hollow plover]

Hmm

[tacit crystal]

im missing a song