Not seperating heroic and mythic
#arms
rose matrix
eager sigil
i think you should have to earn it
rose matrix
You don't get it for free
rose matrix
The system is entirely pointless for anyone that doesn't do mythic raid
naive breach
little elite gamer ark very edgy
prime bramble
Give a way for m+ only to earn it, would be the counter point
rose matrix
Yeah there will always be people mad other people get the gear they got easier
prime bramble
Ignoring such a large part of the player base is just tone deaf
rose matrix
Which is useless because you will just use myth track from the vault
naive breach
people have the heroic items tho dont they
rose matrix
Only thing is is alright for is alts
eager sigil
jastor on hc will still be bis
eager sigil
people have the heroic items tho dont they
i dont have them all
rose matrix
I think they should just make them all the same track and just make them expensive to upgrade
It doesn't really matter if shitters get access to good gear
I just think it is better overall
eager sigil
galliwix will be mega cheap if you really want it
rose matrix
If this was the start of the season it would make sense but it is going to be so far in by the time you get 1 item
And like you said
It's just going to lead to so many people buyign boosts
prime bramble
Buy boosts or break for the season early
rose matrix
So it doesn't matter anyways
prime bramble
They are really gonna live up to the turbo boost title lol
naive breach
Buy boosts or break for the season early
not sure if people will just quit for the season or spend a fuckton of money for boost 
prime bramble
not sure if people will just quit for the season or spend a fuckton of money for...
Need to play dragonwilds and oblivion anyway I guess
olive nest
Guilds selling mythic gally making huge profits this tier
naive breach
was kinda hype at first now that i got my shaman geared and go for healer life
olive nest
You know everybody will fiend for that ring
naive breach
now season is over
rose matrix
Mythic raid is also a huge time sink that a lot of people can't do
Even if they are skilled enough to do it
prime bramble
Guess nice part is that jastor and Best in slots was only like a 2% increase in damage for me
olive nest
2day 6hours isn’t to bad of a commitment but I understand everyones lives are different
eager sigil
people also acting like pushing keys doesnt take up alot of time
rose matrix
Thing is you get myth from a +10
prime bramble
The benefit of keys is you get to choose that time window, not a set schedule for 20 people
naive breach
people also acting like pushing keys doesnt take up alot of time
there is a difference tho pushing keys at any time i want or having to raid with 20 people at time X to Y. like you dont understand that
rose matrix
My brother for example has 4 kids and there is no chance he can log on twice a week at a set time to raid but he can do keys a few times a week
naive breach
hey guys i have my nightshift from 9-6. can we raid at 7 am ?
sure bro
LOG THE FUCK IN
prime bramble
Yea sorry you don't deserve the loot
olive nest
I raid scheduled as a dad/husband just have a cool wife
forest hearth
Hello gang, with dinar release dates set, are there any hard and fast clearly best items to start with?
eager sigil
they still get the loot just a few ilevels below
prime bramble
Sim yourself
olive nest
No different than being scheduled for any other hobby, golf/pool/whatever
prime bramble
But probably jastor and Best in slots
hollow plover
what was the fix to double weakaura cd numbers again? (no im not using omnicd)
forest hearth
Sim yourself
This is what I figured but I didn't want to believe it
rose matrix
they still get the loot just a few ilevels below
I am just wondering what you think the problem is with people getting 2 myth track raid pieces at this point in the season is?
forest hearth
back to the sim mines for 400 years of simming
naive breach
No different than being scheduled for any other hobby, golf/pool/whatever
yeah, people working shifts or whatever cant really expect 20 other people to swap around for them tho
time to play final fantasy Pog
prime bramble
Solo games only for you my friend
forest hearth
good thing oblivion remaster just dropped
naive breach
Solo games only for you my friend
man even raiding in cata classic was a pain once a week
prime bramble
Gotta EARN your gear in this one specific content or you don't deserve it
rose matrix
They give Gilded crests in an 11 delve
But you can't get 2 myth track raid pieces unless you have killed the 6-8 bosses
Or any useful pieces
prime bramble
Hopefully they listen to feedback
rose matrix
Either way I don't think it is a huge deal how they are implementing them this time, I just think there is a better way
prime bramble
And just go back to what worked and make 1 item with an extended upgrade track
flat willow
Working shifts really make raiding impossible
prime bramble
Just gonna disenfranchise a large part of players who play but have cleared beyond 4/8m
naive breach
Working shifts really make raiding impossible
my brother in christ
prime bramble
Jastor, best in slots, house of cards, etc etc all not obtainable
naive breach
flat willow
Whelp I got my +15s done, I guess I could push to +16 or +17 without raid gear but that's so damn annoying
prime bramble
Tbh i think the reason I'm frustrated is that it's felt like a great progression in rewarding players for their effort for awhile and then they go back to their old ways. Obviously just my dumb opinion but feels like they aren't listening.
flat willow
Time to touch grass until next tier
eager sigil
what about peoples effort to kill the bosses on mythic?
naive breach
lmao this clown
prime bramble
Whataboutism
Is the term you're looking for
Caring about people who do m+ content
flat willow
what about it?
prime bramble
Doesn't mean people don't care about raiders
prime bramble
No matter how much you try and frame the argument that way
sleek fractal
What loot
flat willow
better yet, why not do it like pvp, have m+ gear have garbage ilvl in every type of content but +50 ilvl in mythic keys
sleek fractal
Unless you're one of the very few top guilds, you're not getting any loot that anyone else isn't getting.
flat willow
that way mythic raiders can keep their precious loot
naive breach
i wonder @eager sigil have you full cleared by now
eager sigil
better yet, why not do it like pvp, have m+ gear have garbage ilvl in every type...
that would be good
sleek fractal
People who do just m+ and zero raid are the same ilvl as anyone who's CE raiding lol
prime bramble
Uh what?
flat willow
❓
prime bramble
If you've done only m+ you're 670
naive breach
❔
prime bramble
Plus raid you are probably 674ish
sleek fractal
Ya, and most of my guild is 670 and we're on oab right now lol
Nah, only if youre giga geared
prime bramble
Link log, want to see this 670 raid lol
sleek fractal
670 is literally my ilvl, can just look at my logs Gemmarom-Mal'ganis
Like some people are slightly higher by 670 is right middle of the pack lol
flat willow
I don't really understand your logic, you got access to the same loot tools as people who do m+ AND raid loot but somehow you aren't more geared
but ilvl isn't what matters
it's mythic raid exclusive items people aren't happy about
sleek fractal
Because nothing in raid drops matters at all rofl, it's all concentrated on aob and above.
naive breach
so the best trinkets and weapons dont matter ?
sleek fractal
And anyone can pug heroic raid for vault slots like, lol
flat willow
I wouldn't even care if I wasn't stuck farming delves if I want a second trinket outside of raiding
sleek fractal
Ya, they don't, because no one has them except the giga top end of players who've killed mythic gally more than once.
flat willow
that's cool
so you wouldn't be against letting people buy house of cards mythic since you don't have it yourself
to "ease progress"
sleek fractal
Ya where's my dinar blizz.
flat willow
well then we agree
flat willow
time for some final fantasy transmog shows in town
that's my elezen
there are many others like him, but that one is mine
naive breach
hollow plover
@thick kelp fk u :(
thick kelp
<@865605822638063647> fk u :(
dogshit boss
hollow plover
copped this though
reef glade
Gratz on bis in 4 weeks
hollow plover
dogshit boss
do you also have heavy frame issues on oab last phase?
i was playing at like 5 frames input buffering executes and mortal strikes
thick kelp
do you also have heavy frame issues on oab last phase?
I have heavy frame issues in every phase of every boss
hollow plover
💀
hollow plover
I have heavy frame issues in every phase of every boss
ah. real.
thick kelp
Best I have is
30fps on first assistants
then after that its
15-20
but this addon profiling is fucking my fps over bad
rain cipher
dogshit boss
Bandit?
candid pecan
olive nest
Idk why they made it so you can’t disable the addon profiling
Kinda dogshit
What if they’re passively using it to collect their own data to help optimize maybe?
naive breach
question
any amd users in the chat
are drivers good nowadays? might have to swap cpu
hollow plover
What if they’re passively using it to collect their own data to help optimize ma...
they dont need everyone to have it on
a small marginal amount of people turned it off.
soft gust
are drivers good nowadays? might have to swap cpu <:critcake:984549832511344640>
Ive had no issues running WoW with an AMD cpu
Runs well and its stable
naive breach
thinking about buying amd mobo and 7800x3d
i have the slight feeling my 13700k might be dieing slowly
fresh spire
x3d goes hardddd
naive breach
and even if i RMA and get another one, nobody knows when and if that one is failing aswell
i cant live with that paranoia
eager sigil
any amd users in the chat
gpu?
naive breach
nono cpu
craggy granite
most should come with out it atleast the ones ive bought and thermal paste isnt that expensive
naive breach
ty
queen star
Thermal paste is not included in a CPU or
Cooler might have some pre-applied depending on what you are buying (AIOs do for the most part iirc) - Thermal Paste isnt horribly expensive though and will last some time, also not the worst to have some on hand in case you ever need to repaste - can use it for GPU too.
naive breach
Cooler might have some pre-applied depending on what you are buying (AIOs do for...
will have to swap mobo with cpu, gonna keep my air cooler tho, dont have the paste anymore. but ill just get some
teal marsh
Perfect balance. probably wrong, but still
naive breach
cba staying with 13gen ticking timebomb
queen star
will have to swap mobo with cpu, gonna keep my air cooler tho, dont have the pas...
Yeah air is more than fine with AMD CPU's 😛
they might still go full cooking mode at 90c but its what they like
new dinars system looks ass from the announcement, guess boosters are happy they'll be able to sell kills for more
naive breach
yeah i read taht 7800x3d likes to run at high temps but its w/e
hollow wave
Is Slayer Arms in M+ a thing os just meme?
naive breach
i think there is a slayer build if you really want to play it
but pretty much colo >
queen star
Could only see that being worth in like ToP, prolly not even there though
hollow wave
I know there is, but how inferior is compared to Colossus?
naive breach
didint even try it in 1 dungeon so cant tell you numbers. ST potentially, probably better? you could sim both builds and check for aoe
latent palm
saw somewhere it's -25%
naive breach
but aoe will probably be a lot in bigger pulls
hollow plover
I know there is, but how inferior is compared to Colossus?
slayer is shit in aoe
always
soft gust
It is vastly worse in AOE for comparably small ST gains
latent palm
missing so much crit damage from cleave and demo
hollow wave
saw somewhere it's -25%
Thats a lot
naive breach
not piping fat cleaves or fat demos
hollow plover
myth mugzee gamers, my first instinct during frost boots #1 is to hold CDs until i see i dont have boots
any comments?
hollow plover
why are you losing uptime from boots
ava n shit come back like 3 secs before stepping into fire for frost boots right, if i get the boots I'd have to lose uptime so my instinct is not to use cds until i see that i dont have boots
or until boots hiding behind wall is over
or is there some trick i didnt understand
that lets me keep uptime during hiding from arrow
sacred zodiac
why is the boss not next to you while you are hiding from arrow
sacred zodiac
yeah and the boss should move with you to your side
hollow plover
(we just started pulls tbf)
hollow plover
yeah and the boss should move with you to your side
thats news to me
havent seen that
maybe im blind
thanks for the input tho
rare kite
eyo finally here for the money
sly snow
finally i can buy my wanted game
hollow plover
yeah and the boss should move with you to your side
what is planned in our grp apparently is to move the boss in position to finger gun the 2 adds right away, but thats just barely not melee range to be able to hide properly, unless im trolling ofc
correct me if im being stupid
hollow plover
yea i see now
the reason it wasnt possible yet for me is cuz we always had a psycho third arrow on our side meaning i felt forced to hide in a further corner to secure myself a wall
but i do understand now
tyvm spongie
dreamy egret
That's so nice of them to not allow us to get mythic track items unless you kill the boss
Totally the opposite of how it was in dragonflight
Fuck them
shadow ibex
i think it makes sense to not be able to have loot from a boss you havent killed
queen star
That's so nice of them to not allow us to get mythic track items unless you kill...
people selling kills couldnt be happier I guess
sacred zodiac
people selling kills couldnt be happier I guess
i dont get this argument
you do need more than 2 specific pieces from the raid ye
dreamy egret
Basically mythic Slot machine boss will be 5m
queen star
I mean I play m+ and I log out, I'd take the 2 pieces, guess ill be buying a kill unless I wanna be stuck with funhouse for the entire season 😄
just.. meh
smoky kayak
i think it makes sense to not be able to have loot from a boss you havent killed
it does, but people are always gonna feel like they're missing out
and people are always gonna want the shiny thing they see someone else getting
just human nature
shadow ibex
being able to buy a mythic jastor without killing gally just seems like
1000% at odds with how gear progression works
that's just going against imo like a fundamental pillar of pve in this game
dreamy egret
Yes but it didn't work that way in dragonflight.
shadow ibex
i think s4 makes sense because all these rules are thrown out the window
dreamy egret
So it should be changed.
shadow ibex
that was a final season
they clearly are a lot more loose with things then and its for sure reflected in how we engage with it
no one goes for world first season 4
a lot of players take the season off
dreamy egret
There probably won't even be a season four this time around we get one more content patch and a half then player owned house in December
shadow ibex
i dont think you can really point to how any mechanic behaves there as how it should be
queen star
I think it would be fair enough if it was gated by something difficult so you can earn the right to buy em even if you are just a m+ enjoyer but thats just my 2c
shadow ibex
its not a bad thing to not have a s4 if we have a new expac in that time instead
im not big on fated seasons i could careless if it was gone myself
and i would put a lot of money on them letting you buy a mythic whatever later in the turbo patch
dreamy egret
i dont think you can really point to how any mechanic behaves there as how it sh...
When we had dinars earlier yes we most definately can point to how it's supposed to work.
shadow ibex
but not right on launch. sure you gotta wait like 3/4 weeks before you can buy mythic bis
i think thats probably the most likely scenario
sacred zodiac
When we had dinars earlier yes we most definately can point to how it's supposed...
you're supposed to log in and receive bis items i see
dreamy egret
you're supposed to log in and receive bis items i see
No you work to upgrade them just like we've done before.
sacred zodiac
lol
dreamy egret
People were under the impression that we were getting mythic BIS, some didn't/havent crafted a weapon yet.
sacred zodiac
you're most certainly not entitled to the best loot in the game just cause you have to spend crests on them the same
people assumed a lot of shit for no reason shrug
dreamy egret
We are entitled to it when it had been given to us before via the same exact system
prime bramble
The framing of people getting "handouts" is funny to me. When the reality is m+ only players effectively get nerfed in m+ comparatively to those who raid as well.
sacred zodiac
asking for a separation of m+ and raid gearing is reasonable but this system is effectively a bad luck protection for raiders, not a gearing system
prime bramble
Do you think it's more likely blizzard creates a separate gearing for m+ or just add m+ players into the dinar system?
sacred zodiac
if your feedback is directed and constructive enough they will separate the gearing system
prime bramble
Feel like one is low hanging fruit and the other is a high level system that requires alot of upkeep
sacred zodiac
look at what happened in shadowlands s1 w/ pvp weapons
you were p much "forced" into getting glad for a mythic weapon and it's been completely separated
prime bramble
People have been asking for m+ content to give the best m+ gear since legion
Its clearly not a priority for blizzard
dreamy egret
They can never decouple mythic plus and raid gearing unless they cap the ilvl in mythic plus like a challenge mode / raid or change how everything works in both.
sacred zodiac
they can just add the pvp system to m+ gear ye its not a "they can never decouple it" problem
same for raids
dreamy egret
But a trinket from raid may function better in raid and vice versa having people have two sets of gear that do both is a logistical nightmare.
hollow plover
So it should be changed.
something is different now than it used to be?! perhaps because they think its better now than it used to be?!!!! WHAT??? HOW DARE THEY!!!
sry i had to be toxic
dreamy egret
something is different now than it used to be?! perhaps because they think its b...
Blizzard doesn't enjoy boosting communities yet they pull this shit... kind of backwards can't have your cake and eat it too. I will submit a suggestion every single day until this gets changed.
Fuck their stance.
hollow plover
Blizzard doesn't enjoy boosting communities yet they pull this shit... kind of b...
they absolutely do enjoy boosting. They dont enjoy RMT.
Boosting makes people buy wow tokens
they love it
thats why they allow it
top guilds are doing it
everyone's doing it
reef glade
buying gold is bad unless youre buying blizzards gold
hollow plover
^
reef glade
good motto
wow people sell gold for 10x cheaper than a wow token
grrr rmt bad
itd be more reasonable if they actually pretended it was about the health of the game
minor kraken
This decision with the dinar just made my unsubbing even more worth it.
dreamy egret
This decision with the dinar just made my unsubbing even more worth it.
I'll tweet at his ass every fuckin day if I have to
dreamy egret
Not hard to create new accounts
sacred zodiac
harassing blizzard employees is not the epic own you think it is
minor kraken
Why should I pay a sub to game full of QoF issues and doesn't cater to the m+ audience.
I don't enjoy CE raiding anymore stop shoving it down my throat.
naive breach
its not gonna matter because 4 weeks after the patch
what does umbra soul sucking sword do
minor kraken
Like speaking of QoF I was supposed to get a fractured spark this week and didnt get any. And I did all the weekly quests.
sacred zodiac
what does qof mean and are you 100% sure the game is bugged and you just didnt miss the specific weekly quest that gives it to you
potent creek
harassing devs is not bueno
sacred zodiac
you'd genuinely be the very first person to be permanently missing a spark half
potent creek
provide feedback
minor kraken
Opened a ticket and they confirmed there's an ongoing issue with sparks not dropping from the pinnacle cache for some players
potent creek
unsub
reef glade
there are like 3 pinnacle caches a week no
sacred zodiac
ic
minor kraken
there are like 3 pinnacle caches a week no
Did them all and no spark
reef glade
minor kraken
I'll screenshot the ticket
shadow ibex
what does umbra soul sucking sword do
have highest base dmg of any weapon p much
weigh nothing so doesnt use much fatigue
idk if they adjusted numbers in remake tho im still fighting zombies man
minor kraken
minor kraken
@sacred zodiac
void bay
Not hard to create new accounts
@dreamy egret What is it you even want? To kill a raid boss once, then each week you can do M+/easier raid bosses and still have a chance at loot from that boss? Im confused
spiral coral
Why should I pay a sub to game full of QoF issues and doesn't cater to the m+ au...
Oh no you’re back to poop on wow
minor kraken
Oh no you’re back to poop on wow
my sub didn't finish so what else i have to do xD
dreamy egret
<@177605280434094081> What is it you even want? To kill a raid boss once, then e...
analog to dragonflight we just purchase it and upgrade it all the way.
naive breach
the suckening
void bay
analog to dragonflight we just purchase it and upgrade it all the way.
i cant remember that in DF, but regardless, you mean you just do say heroic but you can then upgrade that mythic?
dreamy egret
i cant remember that in DF, but regardless, you mean you just do say heroic but ...
yes exactly how it was in dragonflight
like they have still glitched events instead of fixing anything meaningful
then shovel us shit and expect us to eat
shadow ibex
the suckening
i just had to run by a ghost cuz i only got iron still
just closed a door. feels like bullshit a ghost can open a door
naive breach
urban field
no u get a quest from the npc at the end and turn it in in dorn
somber lance
yeah this I have done
urban field
then u have it
dreamy egret
we supposed to get an achievement for resilient keys?
I think its 12 across the board timed
hollow plover
did anyone else have severe weakaura issues with prison assignments on mug'zee? our liquid weakauras just broke for ~3 people
fresh spire
Check all your raid is upto date and don't have duplicate weakauras. On sprocket our rogue had a duplicate wa and it broke the wa for everyone
Maybe helps. Check note is set correctly
hollow plover
Check all your raid is upto date and don't have duplicate weakauras. On sprocket...
we did a complete weakaura and ui check on everyone affected
:/
fresh spire
Checking wa through /rt won't show duplicates of weakauras*
hollow plover
I shouldve taken a screenshot of the error message
fresh spire
If that's what u did
hollow plover
Checking wa through /rt won't show duplicates of weakauras*
no we went through the weakauras installed
checked load conditions, etc
we have some very good weakaura people
they also had no idea
note was fine
for everyone
fresh spire
Is it breaking at a set point or all the time
hollow plover
gaol assignments
specifically
and only for some
~3 people
potentially more, we didnt see everyone get it
fresh spire
Not sure what to suggest out of those, maybe people have other weakauras that are impacting like northern sky
hollow plover
Not sure what to suggest out of those, maybe people have other weakauras that ar...
yea we thought so too
fresh spire
oh
hollow plover
we ended raidnight with us all doing fresh installs of relevant raid weakauras
fresh spire
check none have nicknames set up on Liquids thing
fresh spire
if the nicknames aren't in the note over characters names they wont work
hollow plover
that could be it, our note is using character names
fresh spire
if you are using nicknames in the liquid pack they need to be in the note instead of their character names, try removing all nicknames
i know i had a nickname set and i wasn't getting my rally timer assigned
hollow plover
My nickname is identical to my main char that im raiding on so that might not be an issue for my character specifically
but for others..
im gonna check in with my guild
that might be it
thanks
fresh spire
worth a try
hollow plover
worth a try
relayed the message
But then again, i do get rally assignments n everything. Ive also had the frost boots weakaura work, its just the gaol assignments that didnt load with an error code
fresh spire
Maybe someone else has something to help if they had issues, our guild personally hasn't had any issues this far.
dim basalt
When I had issues with liquid weakauras I reinstalled everything, including the anchors n stuff
Because they can randomly break apparently
I had this happen and another guildie as well
hollow plover
this is the error code, my guildmate got the screenshot
one of our lads is taking it to bart (i think that was the name?). They're supposedly the one working on it
tiny linden
yo guys, currently lvling up my warrior (lvl 72 atm) and i'm not sure if i'm R but i just can't get any Execute weakaura to work. Currently playing colossus arms to run some dungeons, but not weakaura seems to light up whenever target is in execute range... am i missing something like a talent that is basically rendering every weakaura useless ?
hollow plover
yo guys, currently lvling up my warrior (lvl 72 atm) and i'm not sure if i'm R b...
a lot of them require slayer
sacred zodiac
yo guys, currently lvling up my warrior (lvl 72 atm) and i'm not sure if i'm R b...
what is the function of the execute weakaura
tiny linden
yeah i noticed that, tried like 3 different ones ... but surely there is for colossus ?
sacred zodiac
like did you grab a slayer conditional one or is it literally just one that lights up when the enemy is in execute range
hollow plover
colossus doesnt really click execute unless its a filler replacing slam.
tiny linden
what is the function of the execute weakaura
i just want the execute image to show up / glow whenever execute is usable thats it
dreamy egret
doesnt it do that innately?
tiny linden
but with my limited knowledge on WAs i'm just trying to download one that works
sacred zodiac
no talents will fuck with a weakaura that just checks for health % to show you an execute icon, its literally just a target health % check (and a conditional that checks if you have massacre talented)
tiny linden
doesnt it do that innately?
i would think so, but not really
in this example i'm using Publik's weakaura package and u can even see execute greyed out even tho the spell is usable (last action bar 3rd icon)
sacred zodiac
you will have downloaded a slayer conditional weakaura which just doesn't do what you want it to do
would have to look into what that weakaura is trying to do
sacred zodiac
some weakaura packs do just kind of assume you're aware what health % your enemy is at
grizzled falcon
It highlights with Sudden Death by default without weakauras. Pretty sure most don’t use it outside of sudden death for colossus.
hollow plover
It highlights with Sudden Death by default without weakauras. Pretty sure most d...
glow and lighting up isnt the same
no?
i interpret lighting up as the absence of desaturation
tiny linden
well if it's just a matter of not being supposed to press execute with colossus, i would understand
but in this case it's one of the "big" 5 spells being tracked so i would imagine that is not the intention
this WAs triggers are basically looking for sudden death, cooldown/charges, attackable target and juggernaut
and then the conditions for me are chinese i'll be honest
i would be happy if one of these conditions just made the button glow when execute is usable, would be more than enough for me at this point
something like this i would assume would be doing exactly that ?
solid tundra
Is Hekili a terrible addon to use?
solid tundra
I feel like I get a bit lost in rotation stuff as big pulls are happening and it
somber lance
is it a dps increase to send SS just for the improved damage on cleave on say, first boss of PSF?
minor gust
it works fine but it cant read 100% of all situations so again just think of it like training wheels
it can be helpful at the begining but ultimately you wanna ween yourself off and actual learn why you do the things Hekili tells you to press
solid tundra
Bet
sacred zodiac
Is Hekili a terrible addon to use?
yeah sure but i'd not lean on it for too long
minor gust
indeed
sacred zodiac
is it a dps increase to send SS just for the improved damage on cleave on say, f...
historically at any point you'd have a single target boss with a second add that doesn't health link but also doesnt die its still worth it to sweep
usually it was because of dreadnaught or some bleed effect that gave you advantages for when your enemy is bleeding
currently its to stack up colossal might faster to demo more often
minor gust
historically at any point you'd have a single target boss with a second add that...
whens the last time we had this was the dance fight in castle nathria right?
sacred zodiac
council?
somber lance
oh yeah but i can also send cleave instead of slam for giga damage once SS ends
minor gust
yeah wasnt padding on the other bosses pointless
sacred zodiac
you'd want to sweep condemns off of the offtarget
somber lance
at least that was my train of throught
sacred zodiac
oh yeah but i can also send cleave instead of slam for giga damage once SS ends
ya sure
sacred zodiac
yeah wasnt padding on the other bosses pointless
they are 80%+ unless your other ppl in raid were griefing and sweeping condemns onto your main target was ever so slightly better than doing your <80% >35% rotation
it was also very unfun to do since it was 3 of them and if you miss one sweep it was pretty much not worth it
sacred zodiac
this was a padding optimization i dont think you did this on prog
sacred zodiac
king
tiny linden
i liked sludgefist
that was a fun prog
but council and the last 2 bosses were pain
shadow ibex
Yea sludge was the only bright light
But he was out of condemn range before first charge
nova marsh
i liked sludgefist
Sludge can die in a fire
God people were so stupid with chains
*including me KEK&
shadow ibex
I would like another sludge/patchwerk they are cool
Sludge was just be good melee. Dodge swirls. Dodge dame direction so you don't snap
Do dam
Just tuned tight
Charging back in after his ground smash and not snapping
Just stunt on your partner
charred brook
shadow ibex
Prince kt?
jolly frost
guys I'm a bit stupid, i cant seem to understand the rotation etc on wowhead or in videos, is there anywhere that has a really dumbed down prio list
minor gust
what is confusing about the prio list on wowhead because thats as dumb down as it gets
regal wharf
Yall warriors are lucky
Im an outlul rogue
I gotta do mythic mug and gally
I dont even have a guild to do mythic with
You guys just have to do OAB
minor gust
jolly frost
what is confusing about the prio list on wowhead because thats as dumb down as i...
because i have 3iq and didnt read it properly ngl
minor gust
jolly frost
havoc main tries to read
minor gust
you have a long opener to read you should know how
halcyon valve
Press button. See big number. Me happy.
robust cypress
POG
This is odd.. sims are telling me to craft a crit/verse chestpiece for the m+ sim
hollow plover
guys I'm a bit stupid, i cant seem to understand the rotation etc on wowhead or ...
watch madox's video on arms, i think its like 2 months old by now maybe? Also read the comments as they give solid context.
that'll get you 90% of the way there
jolly frost
watch madox's video on arms, i think its like 2 months old by now maybe? Also re...
will do thank you
queen star
Weekly Delve Herotrack Disappointment 
nova marsh
Weekly Delve Herotrack Disappointment <:pepsihands:589678101446000670>
Just loot pacemaker bro
calm hollow
guys did we have an update for plater in this patch? the hp bars moving a little too smooth
robust cypress
<:gladge:963970137701109820>
I dont have to do the raid on H anymore on my warrior!
regal wharf
I dont have to do the raid on H anymore on my warrior!
I have to do the raid every week on my outlaw
regal wharf
Because the best possible title for an outlaw rogue is behind 20 renown
High Roller
Like COME ON
Thats perfect
spiral coral
I thought the same thing when I first saw that lol
frosty remnant
meanwhile in my pugs
winged heath
XD
hardy olive
Dinar can exchange myths track?
prime bramble
Pretty funny their dinar change makes it EVEN BETTER for mythic raiders
That ain't why we are upset lol
hushed pine
Eye of Kezan prayge
stable fiber
doing stix
i did 3.9m
tacit crystal
is that a 99
stable fiber
100
tacit crystal
gz
stable fiber
yeah i legit just started sniping left over adds
i mean first tier ever playing arms (as main spec, and geared for it), its going pretty good
been liking it more than fury
misty sandal
Can someone help me with something? I think I'm missing something in my understanding of collateral and merciless bonegrinder buffs for cleave.
I was on the target dummies in dorn for a while just trying to refine my rotation for mythic+ trash pulls and after looking through all of my attempts, I was able to get one that had a 13m crit, but all others were somewhere around 7-8m (10 attempts total.)
Is that just pure rng or was I just lucky enough to get enough hits in to super charge that one? 🤔
I'm asking because it feels like trying to replicate it is causing an important detail to fly over my head.
Also, I'm just trying to make sure I'm improving in the right areas for mythic+. Trying to push keys to 12 and hopefully over that, but just barely doing over 2.2m overall (most of the time) by the end makes it feel like I'm holding all of my groups back a bit.
slow saddle
i mean first tier ever playing arms (as main spec, and geared for it), its going...
Your range players must be super ethical
stable fiber
i got good add spawn rng
after the balls run into the boss
13 stacks of collateral damage goes insanely hard
slow saddle
What spec u play?
stable fiber
colossus on stix
stable fiber
yeah pretty much
slow saddle
Guess jastor from dinars dream is dead
boreal quartz
Guess jastor from dinars dream is dead<:clueless:1099922541923024997>
Buy a boost xdd
nova marsh
i mean first tier ever playing arms (as main spec, and geared for it), its going...
R1s are based
slow saddle
Buy a boost xdd
Poor🥲, next expansion ill try to farm 30m
inland drift
this is epic
atomic mountain
which class is similar to arms warry? depressed of not get taken into keys. even my own 12 dont get any atention and i hav a waiting time like 3-4h to get into 1 fucking key thats depletet after the 1st 2 pulls
quaint otter
Dunno try mm or dev
atomic mountain
already have a dev on 2,5k io but getting into 10s are also impossible with him
dim basalt
i mean first tier ever playing arms (as main spec, and geared for it), its going...
3M on coc is brutal dude
Oh you got pi
nvm
smoky kayak
quaint otter
already have a dev on 2,5k io but getting into 10s are also impossible with him
Play ur own key
Or be a dk/balance with inflated rating
slow saddle
already have a dev on 2,5k io but getting into 10s are also impossible with him
Ppl dont know how strong dev is or???
atomic mountain
Ppl dont know how strong dev is or???
idk. i do with shit gear the same dmg like my warry (thats how it feels like)
slow saddle
which class is similar to arms warry? depressed of not get taken into keys. even...
id say Blood dk 😄
that way u get into keys at least 😛
spark mango
After much deliberation and simming droptimizer
i realized i wont miss much from someone who does mythic bosses in terms of dinar
i support blizzard on their decision
if someone who does mythic raid can get gambit weapon and get 20k dps increase over me who just play m+, fair play to them
No item is going to be game breaking in my day to day game play
sacred zodiac
It only took them 2 years
For the Rest of the season is a King Ending for that sentence
quasi torrent
For the Rest of the season is a King Ending for that sentence
bALLShd
hollow plover
i mean first tier ever playing arms (as main spec, and geared for it), its going...
wait ur not swapping fury for stix?
thats wild
kinda grief no?
slow saddle
im bettin his boss dmg wasnt the highest ye ^_^
hollow plover
No item is going to be game breaking in my day to day game play
this^
silver mica
If i have a crafted 2h with ascension should my other crafted have Writhing or duskthread? i should prob just sim I guess lol
eager sigil
yea also duskthread is still conditional with your hp
if you alraedy got ascension you can just go writhing
the dps difference is minimal
silver mica
Okay thanks, new to warrior and mostly just trying to find the small min max things
Ill sim it later
eager sigil
dont worry too much about embelishments
silver mica
True that part is small
hollow plover
If i have a crafted 2h with ascension should my other crafted have Writhing or ...
its either ascension + writhing or double weave, i dont think a mixed embellishment build has ever been better
somber lance
if someone who does mythic raid can get gambit weapon and get 20k dps increase o...
They already have this advantage now
spark mango
They already have this advantage now
not really, my spriest friend is on mugzee mythic with few reclears
we are both 670
because we get 90 gilded per week
quaint otter
Some items that u get from mythic have headstart on ilvl
Therefore there are few people who r almost capped on gear already
spark mango
the point is if they were doing +16 17 with 663 one shouldnt cry about dinar and unfairness of the world while struggling in 13s with 671
Growth comes from acceptance of one's folly. as long as you blame gear for blue logs there is little to 0 chance of actually getting better at this
the diffrence between mythic + and raid in my opinion is the lowest it has ever been in history of this game
thick kelp
you didnt need mythic jastor to kill mythic gally, why do you need it to clear the hardest keys
hmm hmm
spark mango
i mean very rare items dont even have higher ilvls now, they used to in dragonflight
then people cried that its unfair that people who go mythic raid have higher ilvl
quaint otter
spark mango
this season will be joke anyway with new gear. kiling one armed bandit with a failr casual guild is very possible
eager sigil
sprocket will be crazy end of season
swift crown
Sprocket speedkills will be funny af
halcyon valve
killing first boss at the end of first dmg amp will definitely be within reach
dim basalt
sprocket u can probs skip the very tight big lasers soon
With a good guild prob yes but casuals won't lmao
flat willow
I just had the best idea, what if dinnars allowed you to buy mythic+ gear and delve gear on mythic track
that way mythic raiders get to keep their house of cards and what not
and I get a mythic funhouse lens
🧠
I should work at blizzard
quaint otter
Almost everything loves mastery now
daring heron
myth track mechanocore holy
flat willow
That's right
daring heron
the best mechano core i've looted so far is adventurer track
fresh spire
flat willow
Mythic raiders would love mythic track delve trinkets
fresh spire
If they went myth track say good bye to hoc
fresh spire
That's 10min sim* lemme put back to 5
daring heron
so they had us /roll
daring heron
i need to loot jastor/bis/hoc/sprocket cloak
fresh spire
:sus:
daring heron
then buy last 2
daring heron
oh they changed it huh
fresh spire
daring heron
cool then i just need 1 of the 4
fresh spire
So we buy item on 14th now
zenith lodge
With the change. Upped cap to 9 tokens. 3 on first week
didnt they lower cost to 2 instead of 3 per item?
naive breach
I should work at blizzard
apply now
zenith lodge
Not sure
no you right, its 9 tokens, 3 per got some numbers mixed, typical warrior brain xD
fresh spire
Still 3 per item I think
Just 7 weeks of tokens now instead of 6 but we get 3 week one
Which is badass
shadow ibex
When is it again
fresh spire
13th
shadow ibex
Mid next month?
Ok sick
I think insta buy bis ig
We'll probably be on gally prog. Got mug to 49 atm
slow saddle
well gz
naive sage
i rolled 44 boomy rolled 95
All chickens should end up in a rotisserie with a metal rod up their ass
fresh spire
Likely same here
shadow ibex
I'm on with having a bis in like 3 weeks
slow saddle
i do feel super envy. but its very fair way they are doing it i guess
shadow ibex
daring heron
All chickens should end up in a rotisserie with a metal rod up their ass
was wondering wtf did i say to get this notification
slow saddle
i still think they could just give to mythic proggers in gen even if my guild is shit and slow
but hey it is what it is
sacred zodiac
i still think they could just give to mythic proggers in gen even if my guild is...
No i must gatekeep you!!!!
fresh spire
toxic halo
Can anyone help me with my logs? Im parsing only 20-30 logs in heroic fights last 2/3 bosses. Want to figure out what I am doing wrong. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BYZRbgLz29WPCxnA?fight=4&type=summary&source=26
icy mulch
I have had zero luck with any loot off the last 3 bosses. At least the items that every class wants. We've only seen 3 Jaster Diamonds from raid. About the same for House of Cards, and eye of Kezan is about 2-3 seen.
icy mulch
https://tenor.com/view/fox-let-me-in-clawing-at-door-knocking-at-door-waiting-at...
Lol, you saw me typing.
fresh spire
I did
sacred zodiac
I have had zero luck with any loot off the last 3 bosses. At least the items tha...
Splitting is worth it just cause of this garbage
Die splitting die
icy mulch
Yeah, we didn't have enough ppl that would agree to splits.
slow saddle
I have had zero luck with any loot off the last 3 bosses. At least the items tha...
ngl just hc
weve seen 1 jastor normal
0 hc
0 house of cards
1 hc kezan
1 bis
i mean its been interresting 😄
icy mulch
Really rare items are a bane when they can be used by absolutely everyone.
eager sigil
yea i think very rare weapon wasnt as bad in the end
cool to have week 1 or 2
but youre not chasing it all season
sacred zodiac
Really rare items are a bane when they can be used by absolutely everyone.
A @halcyon breach
swift crown
Yellow namer
balmy kindle
is wrecking throw worth oh H gally ?
icy mulch
How many times did you get to cast it?
thick kelp
Once on mythic against a shield
Coulda casted it more but i kinda forgor my kb for it after opener
icy mulch
Heh, if it's regularly hitting the shield for 11 mil might be worth dropping two points into it. Just sucks it's so far to the side.
thick kelp
Probably the best global to press during shield
my hardest MS only did 9million
nvm details lied
my wrecking throw did 13.6million in 1 cast
on logs
3million less than all my CS's combined during the fight
icy mulch
I don't think I've ever viewed CS as a damage ability. Always viewed it as a buff ability.
dim basalt
Seems pretty strong
thick kelp
and im 99% certain its a better filler than Slam if you have less than 30 rage
balmy kindle
I think mine did 11million per cast post buffs
solid
nova marsh
Really rare items are a bane when they can be used by absolutely everyone.
Really rare items and gear are a mistake
icy mulch
Really rare items and gear are a mistake
I don't think they're a mistake in total. It's when all 20 ppl require it for a massive boost in power, it becomes awful.
nova marsh
I don't think they're a mistake in total. It's when all 20 ppl require it for a ...
No they are. Blizzard treats gear largely as a quick process to get to whatever content u want to do with crests nowadays. Giving us items that have about as high a drop chance as mounts isn't a good carrot for me. It's just annoying of "Oh hey look it's that omega bis item I will never even see drop in an entire season"
Even worse when said items are situational or mid like mugzee fist
storm prism
My personal fav is roulette wheel. "Hey here's a ring that has a miniscule chance of ever dropping with the stats you need andofnit DOES drop with said stats you're rolling a 3"
Fuckin thing is 4% increase on my fire mage sims with HASTE/Mastery but I know I'll never see it
sacred zodiac
what uptime you guys using on dawnthread?
check logs noober
i had 77.5% on a mugzee kill but ymmv
teal fossil
cant be calling people a noober
somber lance
i put 60% because i stand in shit
naive sage
Majority of people don’t see mythic raid after 3rd or 4th boss
sacred zodiac
cant be calling people a noober
noober
fresh spire
and im 99% certain its a better filler than Slam if you have less than 30 rage
It simmrd marginally better than slam regardless of rage. Problem is the 2 points you drop for it doesn't justify taking it unless you get a few uses into shields
daring heron
do the shields on 25% hp assistants on oab count
think they're absorb shields right
eager sigil
its not an absorb
fresh spire
Think it's just a flat dr not a shield
eager sigil
just an immunity
daring heron
sry it's zoomed in stream vod so low quality
but you can see absorbed damage on dw and rend there
somber lance
how do i aquire this ui
"well it's atrocity's and it wouldn't be right for me to just link it"
snow badge
hey i know sim it is the usual answer, but if im split like 50/50 with raid and keys is it better to craft my myth track wep with ascension or still run double linings on armor pieces and nothing on wep
my st says use wep embelishment, dungeon slice says use double linings so im tooooorn af
balmy kindle
Finally AOTC, didnt got the best parse on the kill but wrecking throw was doing meme dmg on the shield
fresh spire
sry it's zoomed in stream vod so low quality
Try send a natty wrecking throw next kill. See if it counts. Incoming cringe rank 1 strats
swift crown
do the shields on 25% hp assistants on oab count
Should technically count but damage absorbed is removed from log
Since 11.1.5
smoky kayak
yeah WCL has a tendency to not count fake damage
also how funny would it be if shattering throw worked on those, but nobody had ever bothered to try
somber lance
shall i use a catalyst on a 678 belt just because it has better stats for arms?
or would that be a bit of a waste
broken arrow
Well do you have anything better to use catalyst charges on
teal fossil
catalyst is irrelevant at this point
balmy kindle
my st says use wep embelishment, dungeon slice says use double linings so im too...
I asked this question before, at about 80% uptime, double lining with 678 is about 0.3% better
you can run the sims yourself
with double lining its pretty easy to achieve 89%+ uptime too
lunar remnant
sims are saying use a 665 hero ring over cerce's idk if im simming right
reef glade
not impossible
the ilvl of the ring doesnt matter as much as the stats you gain vs the stats you lose
i think arms is "more likely" to drop circe's earlier in lieu of more crit/haste for example since circe barely provides any of that but if you already have a ton or something maybe it likes you having the extra boost to mastery and stuff
or the 665 you're trying to sim is not ideal stats to begin with but idk
reef glade
ya could be you got enuff haste, unless its like super significant upgrade i prolly wouldnt bother tho
tacit crystal
swordish
tacit crystal
how exam go
reef glade
its in an hour
o i didnt fully realize u mean it preferred the 665 ring over circes i was talkin about it the other way
most of what i said still holds tru tho yea
just diff context lole
but yea not uncommon to drop it once u get something good
safe island
I'm trying out the mythic one-armed bandit, but which would be a better choice right now between arms and fury?
smoky kayak
depends on whether your group has trouble killing adds quick enough
- if so, go Thane Fury
- if not, go Slayer Arms
Colossus Arms is also a bit of a middle ground (leaning more towards the Arms side of ST damage but still bringing a bit more multitarget damage for dynamite sets than Slayer does)
tacit crystal
bring back execute giving cm
misty sandal
median scroll
How do you make the sim sim the circlet using the windsinger gem correctly ergo how do you snapshot a certain 2ndary as "highest"
shadow ibex
I did all my oab prog as thane and it felt like best call
Only thing to kill your raid is bombs
smoky kayak
How do you make the sim sim the circlet using the windsinger gem correctly ergo ...
I'm not sure you can game it the same way as in game, fairly certain the sim just uses your highest raw stat
median scroll
I'm not sure you can game it the same way as in game, fairly certain the sim jus...
https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/wiki/ExpansionOptions I found this but i dont know where to put this command
under s1 items the last one deals with it
thewarwithin.windsingers_passive_stat
by default it uses the highest stat yes
thick kelp
Select the option to sim with max colorw
tacit crystal
Select the option to sim with max colorw
hi
smoky kayak
thewarwithin.windsingers_passive_stat
ok, I guess someone did build an option for it then - put it in the Custom & SimC Options section at the bottom of the page
hollow wave
Is really worth to try to align collateral damage with colossus smash, demolish and bonegrinder or just send everything on CD? Specific talking about collateral damage
prime bramble
If there are like 1-3 mobs left i hold until the next pack
If it's a big group, unless the cd is coming fast, you'll miss out on X amount of cleaves you could have made up any difference in maxing it out anyway
hollow wave
15 secs sounds like a lot of waiting, but don't know if is actually worth it for a big cleave
inland drift
wohoo heroic gally down 🥳
river ridge
wohoo heroic gally down 🥳
Congrats!
vernal pebble
Guys, which is the optimal order to use sweeping strikes and avatar on pull?
tacit crystal
charge cleave tc roar ss rav ava cs build to 10 cm force demoslih before cs runs out
vernal pebble
charge cleave tc roar ss rav ava cs build to 10 cm force demoslih before cs runs...
Ty sir
shadow ibex
Play blademaster like a chief and always have it up
crimson forum
Very possible I am just misplaying, but experiencing a lot of de-sync using AM talent. Playing Arms:Colossus in m+ and any advice on how to best handle the de-sync of cds would be appreciated.
potent creek
keen arrow
Is really worth to try to align collateral damage with colossus smash, demolish ...
I prob do it wrong but I send on CD unless all lines up for giga cleave in <10 sec, or if a couple enablers but not all CD come up in <5 and I have filler availible.
stable fiber
wait ur not swapping fury for stix?
i would do less damage
still 4th on boss damage
dark ledge
Evening, when do you swap Warlords torment for blademaster's torment in m+?
tacit crystal
i would do less damage
i think colo is not that incosistent
the more i think about it
you just pound the adds and swap back
stable fiber
i mean you can do that
tacit crystal
but bombshell damage above 80% is pretty bad imo
stable fiber
you sweep and target the bombshell closest to boss and it can hit the boss
above 80 though the ranged pretty much get it down before you can even charge to them though
tacit crystal
i had to run off because our ele refused to pool resource to chain off the small guys
and only hit boss
and we only had 1 boomie
tacit crystal
dunno how every log in top 300 is melee stay on boss and ranged solo bombshells but lower guilds cant do that
sacred zodiac
stix logs are very important for sure
tacit crystal
yarp
olive nest
We didn’t have to swap melee to bombshells in my guild we’re 6 melee 7 ranged
tacit crystal
i dont know why we couldnt
sacred zodiac
i dont know why we couldnt
swordish was griefing
tacit crystal
(nah was me)
But more the ele
and the 2 mages refused to do anything either
so
tacit crystal
here
the people who should swap (imo) are boomie with preramp, ele, shadow, arcane can slightly swap by positioning in front of bombs then abarr and both wls
i can assure you both mages never swapped
i barely did either but i just ran to solo bombshells and did little damage because i was holding cds to oneshot at the end
reef glade
swordish was griefing
sacred zodiac
tacit crystal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711337973274378270/1351661682044305564/MV...
gmish
manic river
stable fiber
the people who should swap (imo) are boomie with preramp, ele, shadow, arcane ca...
arcane switching is cooked
i would literally never ever switch
not once
maybe with what you mentioned you can hit with abar, sometimes mobs in air or smaller mobs are hard to hit with abar though
silver mica
you can only wear 2 emblishments right?
eager sigil
yes
silver mica
ty
eager sigil
rik tank jail
low pond
New to War/Arms. Do you guys spam MS if you get a reset or load it with overpower first if available?
last inlet
i was literally about to ask the same thing, because i totally forgot how to play arms.
also not in Execute phase im assuming
low pond
Yeah not in execute
hollow plover
New to War/Arms. Do you guys spam MS if you get a reset or load it with overpowe...
put ms on cd
generally
low pond
Any exceptions?
hollow plover
execute phase
hollow plover
or during cds
low pond
Gotcha thanks
hollow plover
or m+ talents
might be diff
depending on situation
or when jugg is falling off
in ST you need to be juggmaxxing sir
we juggmax around here
low pond
Juggmaxing. I feel like I know what you mean but kinda don’t know what I mean?
hollow plover
read Juggernaut
potent creek
low pond
Lmao jkjk
potent creek
thanks god in M+ we aren't doing that
potent creek
still better than jug
tacit crystal
arcane switching is cooked
nah you abarr the boss but stand in front of bombs to have orb hit bombs
i swear its worth
and not like you lose anything when totm isnt out
hollow plover
Yeah mages saying they can’t swap because ohmuhgurd my ignite
On OAB us melee got told to hardswap to range add after a range died on prog kill try while both fire mages were perma casting boss
light dirge
im not sure I am simming correctly but simc tells me that mechanocore is better than seaforium
but archon shows people using seaforium more than mechanocore
hollow plover
im not sure I am simming correctly but simc tells me that mechanocore is better ...
at same ilvl, yes
almost always
for pretty much everyone
tacit crystal
so mechano is superior ?
ask the robot bud
hollow plover
Mechano Core Amplifier is objectively the better trinket per ilvl, it's just not farmable and it also doesnt exist as myth track
listening to archon more than raidbots is crazy
lol
light dirge
no no im doing what hte robo tells me. im just wondering why seaforium is more popular on archon
hollow plover
no no im doing what hte robo tells me. im just wondering why seaforium is more p...
farmable.
light dirge
got it
tacit crystal
only time ive ever used archon is to see talents
light dirge
that makes perfect sense
potent creek
people get more seaforium - they use more seaforium
that also true about funlense etc
light dirge
haha now i feel silly asking
hollow plover
people want to use mechano core hero track but they dont have it since its rare asf
thats the reality of it
lol
(i have it)
tacit crystal
me when i dint
light dirge
🫰
hollow plover
me when i dint
its ok gio one day you will enjoy mechano core like you enjoy tiananmen square
potent creek
they said that with turbo boost you
get better loot from map
free amp myth track for everyone
hollow plover
free amp myth track for everyone
myth track items from delve map is extreme levels of copium
tacit crystal
its ok gio one day you will enjoy mechano core like you enjoy tiananmen square
what square
ashen sorrel
Hey are we keeping cyrce's circlet for the entire tier? I've seen a fair few arms warriors using a crafted ring and Jastor's instead
smoky kayak
Hey are we keeping cyrce's circlet for the entire tier? I've seen a fair few arm...
Arms can replace it a lot easier than Fury, but Fury is also likely to after the upgrade track updates
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dinnering
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cinderbrew also nice
visual fern
What stats on cinder
visual fern
Oh the crit heavy one
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ya
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that thing might as well be fake
not reliable
and i bet raid players will turbo geek out for it
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