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had to cast it on cd was mostly on pull, then on bandit, then on bandit + first add then on bombs
also cause we lacked boss damage so had to do it like that
im getting PI which helps unlucky timings is nice but yeah doing bomb dmg as colossus is very difficult
if im not fixated I can do equal bomb dmg to thane
yeah I might swap and just vibe as fury but our wipes are all over the place hard to pin point 1 issue
we cleaned up adds mega clean
just getting fucked by super bad add spawns and tornados
so many pulls where we kill exploded bombs and then have to go to that add
its griefing our pulls because then we lose add dmg and its gg
so we got 3 x mobs worth of tornados going out and coming back in
just cant get hit by anything
i hate arms do less dmg in raid vs fury but fury does less in m+
fury and arms are basically even in raid
then just me
just gear for fury if you play both. arms with fury stats is pretty good
i mostly ment me
oh nah i just ran it down on cauldron
juicy 0 log
wat
bro
i have gear for both just missing a few things here and there but mostly geared for all 3 specs
what happun
think i stood in circle while at 30%
oblivion gamers
Got combusted
so did the prepull cd popping get reverted?
yes
feelsgoodman

Weekly vault
Legs is the only non myth track I got
But that big red button looks juicier for every week
Brb angle
can anyone explain to me the like half gcd you get sometimes on some abilities?
it feels like ms is a half gcd after overpower.. sometimes..
guys its the second week in a row that i get mythc wep and some orthe shit sims better
To risk getting duplicates in vault right now or to wait tomorrow afternoon
needs more grills
throw some glizzys onthe kujo flame vents
cook up some schabongs on it
its also the 3rd week i get kujo
how much crit/haste do we generally want before we start going into the other 2 stats?

jastor...
@swift crown hi i got ascension 10 on ironclad today
jastor simmed lower than the ring by like 10k
Hey I got 99% crit with 0.5% haste what do I pick bro
A psychiatrist 
Huge
jastor no ?
myth ring vs hc jastor was like 10k diff once I upgrade the ring
Myth jastor is better tho I think
makes sense ty
They buffed arcane and see all mage playing arcane now (they just die the first second of the first pull)
rip keys ๐
Are EU vaults fixed?
Had one doing ok yesterday in my key
peaked at 16m on the first pack of cbm I probably could do more tho
Yea, I had some very fine tho, but the only prob is the lack of survivability i bet
Skill issue
or they just don't like to press alter time
Mage has a lot of saves but they are active
Gg Gio57
Wrecking Throw now good against affix add?
for big packs, are we precasting avatar + funhouse lense? before a pull
wrecking throw is a real button now yeah
Useless
I plan on taking wrecking throw into rookery
Do we have a confrimed case of multi vault on an EU account? Ive only seen US people opening them
Was wrecking throw buffed or what last time i checked the damage on it it was less than a mortal strike
Why look when someone else can
Oh fuck yeah
has we any other dungeon for wrecking throw?
theatre
Yeah lol
I usually just go by the wowhead webhook i got in another server and didnt see that there
watching different videos of high keys, i never see anyone popping avatar on pull
i dont understand why having a 20% buff rolling as you start combat doesn't work?
helps to link what you are talking about
World of Warcraft: The War Within
Watch live at https://www.twitch.tv/deswindtv
seems like this guy just starts right away with a charge + cleave and then tclap then other stuff before avatar
yeah that, i dont understand why thats benefecial
wdym
feels like some strange alien coding or something
hes waiting for the grp to come together and tank has aggro before he presses cds
why would you already pop your cds
hes not pre pressing ava idk where ur seeing that
before you're doing damage?
boys is lock and stalk a sim bait?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/snCLuJ3BcVbik5zLinbqLv
I also have kezan hc but that is shit below mythic progress, since bosses just die
no
i am failing to wrap my head around that. like i get popping cd's before doing damage doesnt make sense
but having buffs up before damage in my head makes more sense
am i just thinking about this incorrectly?
WTF are you talking about
I still can't really tell how you're thinking in the first place
what would be the benefit of having avatar rolling while you're charging
so lock for ST and delve trinket for m+? or lock is good for both?
srsly
while you're not doing damage in general
avatar doesnt take a gcd also so there's zero benefit to pre pop
in my head. im like charge = then pop ava for the bonus damage into warbreaker so i can benefit from the bonus damage when i start my rotation
you literally make sure your avatar duration is less long for the part where you're doing damage
I would do lock for st and delve for m+
but how does that make sense?
you actually lose duration on avatar if i am not wrong if u do that
yes of course
Whats the point in increasing the damage of warbreaker?
Thats a global that goes into nothing
go look at the wowhead opener you are completely loss
Same with roar
the lazy acceptable method is using T roar with avatar but realistically u want your avatar with your hardesting hitting stuff
Should clapp/roar before avatar. Sync avatar with cs
yo im just asking for someone to help me understand. if you don't want to help thats fine.
iirc wowhead explains why you dont use avatar right away
like chill dawg. im trying to learn
what hes doing is the normal opener and he waiting for the mobs to stack were trying to figure out what your confusion is
you were mentioning prepulling avatar which was extremely confusing because thats troll af
thats why I asked for u to link the vid cuz u mentioned high key players doing it

oh nah our tank crashed out
tbf avatar lasts long enough that losing 1-2 gcds isn't a great big deal; it'll still cover all the important stuff anyway
but yes, ideally it is delayed a couple to get through the "build up" and into the actual damage of the rotation
Ideally avatar is removed and they make cs window real
agreed
alternatively, give us avatar captstones that actually matter again (cough signet)
Is it decent?
so when you ready to do damage the pack is dead, and you cant do big dps :((
For st maybe
its ok in ST, but its only really good at 678 on my char
at equal levels it loses to h track funhouse / mechano
Not so strange, you want to align Warbreaker with Avatar as best you can. The initial damage of roar ain't much to avatar for and same with deep wounds.
so they removed buffs from here?
how can i enable sweeping strikes or cleave buffs above my hp and rage bar again?
They moved it to new cd manager....like, who asked?
which one? i cannot figure out this specific need
i noticed only these 2 are available
so basicaly they added this to fight WA just to make ppl use WA even more
NOW
negative
Why?
I dont want 3x trashmaster
It's been fixed
Ye
vaults arent safe on eu
is this normal (im 660 and lock is 651 druid is 654)
yeah
Is this 7th key?
Key and key lvl matters
warbreaker itself doesnt do big dam, you wanna use the dmg buff of avatar for actual big hitters and ur rotation
Hmm it allowed me to track colossus might and EP though
Not a WA user here so i find it serviceable
Random question, has Blizzard said anything about those that exploited the raid rep?
monka
+6


Train at dummies first
Nah otherwise prot war would have lots of dps
But ye train dummies
Rly?, i go 100% cold
Press cleave done
Tbh i would say waste of time. But realisticly queue simulator is more than 5m
Tempted to play frost now but dont want grind dem crests 
I still need to crack 1 million cold ones
Imma try 2h fdk in keys. App they have true insane prio + st
Going for syndragussy
yo guys did they fix the vault for eu?
yes
ty
damn, my chances of 3x bis is gone
heyo, question: whats the best way to SIM for m+?
Sims keep wanting me to drop haste but also can't find an upgrade for my champion Quickwick Candlestick which is big haste on use. Is it dropping haste specifically because I have an on use haste trinket?
been watching this guy since like middle school and im turning 33 fml
maybe even over 50
i told him that i got chat banned ๐ฆ
lol
Hi guys, on my alt arms warrior I have just got enough stuff together to do some crafting, I have Normal Best in Slots atm, I'm assuming I'd be better crafting a weapon as the increase would be larger, I don't really have a shot at heroic or higher atm
He's 39. So I am older than he is. 
he looks more like 60
no
he was in his 30s like 15 years ago
or?
swifty looks like 50 wtf
pretty sure he is yeah
Lol
That's what I meant, in general it's replacing haste items when gear comparing, but no trinkets that I've had or in droptimizer compete with my champion track Quickwick
yeah having big on use haste during cds will reduce the value of haste across the board for your character
whether that actually changes what is an upgrade and what isnt, only the robot can tell you
like im not joking i used to watch this guy while i was doing my homework lol
the guy is old!
And he'd still whoop your ass in PvP. Lol
My only goat is Loboz
nah, you lose your fast reaction time at his age. It's time to put that old grandpa out to pasture ๐
all your takes are trash at this point tbh
Sim arms as dungeonslice or singletarget for m+ ?
and who asked you?
lame
Are some arms here trying out Slayer in M+? how is it performing now?
Thinking about switching to it for ToP
reaction time doesn't go down that much
Its bad vs collosus
even for things like theater of pain where there is a lot of priority?
Yes it's bad
21 seconds?
Sweep with avatar = 21 sec sweep
bstorm negative damage
Need to lower bladestorms spin time and it might be good again
Just too long spinning not padding
Yeh its shit
are you playing slayer 
im playing demo
I hope so๐
rotation is probably wrong, at 660 should be doing more dmg unless your stats are all wrong and youve got terrible trinkets
that was when I was 550
and didnt know about stacks
I cant do dungeons in this affix cuz I keep dying, and even the tank dies
then train more
train rotation first
so u can do mechanics and stuff without sweat
tank being bad can be considered affix?
Its not just one affix
Devour.. ok so
Keep ya impending victory rdy
Spec into the 3m heal cd thingy
And hold it for bad situations this way it becomes a non factor
Well fuck... i got a lot of performance out of that fix...
2min cd, when our cds are 1.5min

what dungeons do we use blademasters? floodgate is one?
I run it on flood, priory, brew. Namely high target count in pulls dungeons.
thanks. appreciate it
whats the 3 min healing cd ability
bitter immunity
I just imagined gaining 10ish fps in all situations and no freezing since I got that WA. Blizzard knows all though.
is it reccomended this week?
Dunno i never pick it cuz of low talent budget
Not sure it's happened to anyone else, but got a weird bug last night with heroic leap in a key. The keybind stopped working for it (not a macro just the spell itself) and still wouldn't cast after a reload. Had to remove the spell off my bars and replace it from my spellbook again.
Could have been something I did but wasn't able to replicate.
Is there a good way to sim for stix
I've been doing just 5 target but it doesn't feel super accurate so there's prob a better way
You cant really do that
Not like it would help anyway
Do you always try and line up Warbreaker and Demolish or only if there CDs are close? What is the max time for waiting?
If wb under 10 sec
did they reset na servers yet? can i loot vault yet?
my arms sims like 40k less than fury, eventhough I feel like my stats are kinda good for arms. Does arms just sim lower than fury?
yes
is it common as arms that jastor diamond + 658 ring is preferred over the isle ring (cycles cricket or what its called) or is it some weird stat shifting thing ?
@naive breach yo this game is hard man
im waiting like 10 minutes between pulls like this is a fuckin m+ dungeon with no timer
It also gives a lot of mastery like the cyrcle
So yeah it can sim like that
idk how the fuck i can replace cyrce it sims better than everything p much for me still
jastor isnt an upg for me
lmao
I think I just lacked mastery because heroic jastor was like 30k for me
waiting for healer to reg mana
Over cyrcle/bloodsignet
But then again
Cyrcle gives mastery so idk
But robot smort
idk
i see everyone replace it with heroic ilvl ring
and its still better than a jastor
as slayer i could get it to be an upgrade with hc rings
as col it was quite doable
is the uprades left for me in m+ at heroic ilvl
from vault the bloodstone would be .5% but other than that every other ring is within variance
think i played bloodbath + high crit low haste 658 rings on OAB
guys for leg is the armor better or hp?
it simmed like -1k
i just gotta pull bloodstone from vault
but more crit just meant more consistent results for me
i got it a few weeks ago but i took something else isntead idr
Quick question. Is cyrce's ring just that good? Despite sims showing differently for me
its really good
if you have like 23k mastery it gives more stats than a mythic ring iirc
if you arent stacking mastery a mythic ring can beat it
Im faar off from the 23k mastery. Maybe 16 17k at best. Should I trust sims?
@shadow ibex just read an article about oblivion leveling and apparently you get 12 points for stats every level no matter what youโre training
And endurance is โretroactiveโ so you no longer need to rush endurance first
Yea i peeped that
Im still boosting endurance since I don't need shit else cept str
they really di da good job revamping the skills
blade/blunt give different effects on attacks
does raidbot in a m+ environment change "mister lock-n-stalk"s calibration
if im using a dungeon route to sim for example
i dont have one but can u change the calibration mid key?
if so i think the sim just changes it based on targets its fighting
but also dont sim dungeon slice
just sim 5 targets for whatever amount of time
you can
yea just trust them
then yea i assume sim ppl are smart enough to have it recalibrate for X targets
so it should be swapping from ST to MT
but dungeon slice is also just bad
its not a good aoe trinket if thats the question
Hello there my warrior's fellas, i really need help to understand my sims
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/es-es/character/eu/sanguino/Cruento
this is my warrior, my thoughts are that i need more crit, less haste and same mastery... but it sims that i keep needing mastery insted of crit in single target
sorry, i do not know is this is the place to share this, but im a bit worried
first time something like this happens
Dont sim stats, sim gear
hmm
And trust the sim
yeah, im simming gear for example ring
If the sim says its better, the chance is 99% that it really is better
i have faded champion and footbomb, i dont really understand why footbomb keeps simming better
Stats doing their thing /shrug
How does it value the Gally ring? I keep on simming upgrades and weird stuff has big upgrades (one of the ToP rings is a 2.1% upgrades over it) am I getting baited or just trust
We are probably one of the worst users for the gally ring, somehow
Interesting, doesn't help i have 18k haste and 10k crit tbh
High mastery low haste is not exactly something we chase unless you have super much haste
I have 20k haste 14k crit 8k mastery at which point the heroic version is already an upgrade of 1%
But tbf Im also still wearing circlet lol
Ah interesting, I am too I was just confused
I just swapped to mainly arms over fury when possible so my stats are def off tho
If you have lots of mastery you prob dont want the ring yeah
You want jastor eventually
If you have jastor and then build your other gear around it youโll end up higher dps at the end
ye, altho its still prob not a massive upgrade even then
Makes sense, cuz in the end Jastor is just flat out more stats
Indeed
20k haste 10k crit 10 mastery and dunno why it keep telling me to upgrade mastery items
Mastery is a good stat for us
Dont question it, the sim is probably right
The only stat thatโs kinda mid is vers
But ye, mastery is good
But even the sim wants some vers if you have 0
first zombie in tutorial man
took 50000 hits
i mean even tho its bethesda mess
with optimization etc
i like it

Are there any uses for Grim Codex or is it just dogshit? Second time in a row I get it in my vault 
tbf they've always been this way
just been so long since playing it on ma difficulty
i am giga noob tho im playing sword and board
once you get something that does some kind of magic dmg we should be good
yea same
i still havent found a 2h sword
sometimes running around like a chicken healing myself
i wish i went with blunt as a major skill now
every bandit in this ruin has a 2h axe
2h axe surely doesnt count as blunt ???
they are yes
ngl oblivion makes me paranoid tho
i think technically axes are crushing weapons against someone armored irl as well
getting the out of video memory call from time to time
cuz you kinda wanna crush the man in the armor not cut it open
having a 13700k not a good look
my perfomance was bad until i turned off that super advanced lighting
i built this thing during the pandemic and its playing most stuff on ultra
just gotta fiddle with shadows/lighting at times
on UE5 games, people that get that bug even on 4090
surely they are not out of video memory with 24 gigs
performance was not the issue for me
i just get the error
and game crashes
like
it doesnt even crash
you get that error
i still see the game running behind that
can still move ingame
but as soon as you click ok or whatever it closes
could be degradation of the cpu. its a possibility at least
switching to amd if this shitty mofo dies
hmmm idk
STILL
oblivion is good
i like it
from time to time i still visit my goth gf umbra
she still sucks my soul out of me
murders me in cold blood. good times
was slightly hoping they would make it 2h again cuz there's so many good 1h swords
yea i figured
not many good named melee weapons in the game that arent 1h swords
Fallout 3 remastered would be lit too
^
i think if they remaster 3 they would do NV alongside it
its practically same game
i mean the fact you can get a mod that allows you to combine them
fallout 3 was my shit man
is house of cards so good because it's 1,5m?
this was weird
based
gonnna get on each others shoulders in a big coat
dorf superiority
how are these 2600 i.o ppl getting 13-14 keys lol
Just a dorf living in a dorf world
how to get into 15s as warrior
explain
rename to Revvรชz on tarrenmill or wherever echo is ?
deception 100
Is there a reason 90% of the top arms (allia) seem to be night elfs? is it just shadowmeld is useful or something else to it?
Shadowmeld is pretty strong
why the fuck is my game blurry when I start it
Just completely not get any mechanic of your choosing if itโs something you can see ahead of time
ur getting old

delete shadowmeld
my blood beast explodes on an orc unholy dk, I rip threat and die
the blood beast explodes on a night elf unholy dk, he shadowmelds and deals twice the damage of the second dps
that doesn't seem very fair
Sounds like threat is the problem
tanks don't like when a rng proc deals 20M damage to every mob 10 seconds into the pull
deserved for not nelf
especially if some mobs came a little later
where is my bloodbeast
I'm maining enha this season, something is wrong with threat considering how i get instameleed with a single voltaic blaze or rip aggro after 25 seocnds
garrosh spawns as ghostly friend and does giga bladestorm
Nah if tanks actively pressing a damage ability all mobs within range that were hit by that ability should just be glued to the tank
you should work on the dev team
that's the kind of ideas that will save warrior
Threat is such an old concept and is annoying to play around
Unbelievably based


Is there a general WA people recommend for Arms or is just Luxthos one fine
I use Publiks and modified it a bit
I use Publik's and modified it
I like Naowhs but it costs
i use luxthos
has other people had the issue where ravager appears to be off cd on the weak aura but its not?
swear it was a bug last season but has came back again
assuming anger management is screwing it up
possible my sims tell me to remove the %crit gem?
DoctorWarios for me
Actually use their wa for everything but fire
Doesnt sound very unlikely because the gem doesnt do much
oh i thought it was an auto include
Anyone tried Turbo-Drain 5000. Sims quite good for me
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aPo2QHShP8rwLSVyo6yoJy
Warrior pet class?
Rallying Cry rework:
Cry out for help since we donโt do enough damage. 50% chance to spawn either the ghost of Garrosh or Varian Wrynn. When crying for help below 30% health, spawn both.
While spawns active, slam damage increased by 6% per active spawn.
Varian spawns
Throws you into same fel pool shit where tirion died
Brown class deleted

Mythic weapon in vault replacing crafted wep or mythic pants replacing heroic. Hmm
Need the sims
My damage is super super awful on mugzee
should I just go fury?
ig if my groups ain't getting to execute phase I can't really say that
Weapon. Craft pants later
If you donโt get a replacement ofc
Unless you have two mythic weapons
Why does crit rating give less % than haste rating?
I'm at 36% crit
This can't be diminishing return can it?
kritischer trefferwert
yeah thats crit rating in german
i know it is still funny
frappe mortelle
frappe mortelle
worst part about doing ur own keys is when u get the same key you already timed -.-
hinrichten
Crit starts at 5%
haste at 0
im about to do gw on arms first time - when do I use wrecking throw lol
when shield is up or you're out of melee
does anyone know of a way to disable the blizzard CD manager text?
is arms better for sproket if you have to do mines vs fury?
what ever sims better for ST
its more about managing the downtime as furys hurt pretty badly by downtime for popping mines
Because crit costs more per % than haste
Did I get baited by not taking hero eye when I have myth visc and hero mechano core? Ik its bis technically but I tried simming it a million times and I always got a downgrade, for M raids in particular (I already have normal as well)
Eye should be good for later fights assuming ur progging
It will stack to max on your prog kills
Atp in heroic clears it won't
Ye we'll get stix done this week, it was just hard to justify taking a 7 ilvl upgrade on a trink over getting mythic belt that replaces my last champ tier item so idk
Hello I have a question. Is 2.67 overall on a priory 10 ok or terrible? 663 ilvl
The best dmg on priory is 5m overall, so u can improve
Damn so Iโm 50% under thatโs brutal
god, fuck off juggernaut
maintaining 15 stacks through OAB is such a fucking annoyance
@outer turret i think u maybe using collateral wrong, that makes a huge difference
Maybe Iโm not sure how to use it correctly. Think Iโm also wasting overpowered stacks on MS instead of cleave
they reverted that change so yea u can
cool ty
is heroic gallywix considered a ST or cleave fight? the adds are up for such a short period i wasnt sure if its worth swapping
As fury I gave up (I know this is the arms channel). I just burst on them when they drop and focus one down so its bomb can be ferried.
Just let the passive cleave classes like enhance deal with it
thats what i figured @nova marsh
1 pi is on pull and its useless
cause lust and i prepopped avatar
so like
really only 1
kill times have such a massive impact
like i would have had rank 1 rik by like 150k dps i think
but because we didnt killed it before second intermission its only a rank 3
yee, did you get 2 intermissions in execute phase? been a while since i did the fight(dont need anything so im benched)
just 1
for cauldron
rik i got 2 intermissions and it just cuts 200k off your end dps
on ST, SD exec>Overpower even if OP is at 2 stacks?
where can I get old dragonflight seasonal items
like wha
can anyone tell me what is their percent uptime on dawnthread
it's different from boss to boss. but for most atleast 80%
what about for a dungeon?
82% in my last dungeon
ideally what dungeons do you want to use warlords torment isntead of blade master
i feel like with blademaster im doing higher overall
well yeah blademaster is more aoe
warlords is more ST
but warlords also provides value in all situations while blademaster has 0 value in ST
But so many bosses have some cleave
if thats what you wanna do
Bring back reck on cs
Arms is pissing me off more and more every key
Just really hate dealing with demolish
i kind of miss fury everytime i think about demolish
is better dawnthread or duskthread on arms?
probably dawnthread cuz crit good but can sim it
What's the most guaranteed way to get PI?
I'm supposed to get it during mug'zee intermission
but the priest who's supposed to give it to me is very inconsistent
Replace your priest with a consistent priest
https://wago.io/nhqaTMIop does this work?
A weakaura designed to handle the assignment of power infusion. Original aura by Melura in https://wago.io/f5SA1p-ye/29
Bribe your priest with gold, obviously
hey guys. how much behind is colossus on st dmg? I find slayer a bit bland tbh
Be the annoying person on voice saying 'PI please one time' every pull
Disadvantage: have to find new guild afterwards
lmafo
No I'm assigned PI, just had issues getting it on time
it's been resolved now
Thats id u load in with m+ build
dno man i havent been able to get collosus to perform within 3% of my
slayer
Cuz we are far from bis gear yet 
hit boss, hold avatar until ball assignments go out and bs when hyenas get to boss and then hope your tank is competent enough to not suck on the balls every time
Oh sweet summer child, wait for the sprocketmonger prison
sprocket at least is melee friendly โค๏ธ
I really like the sprocketmonger fight but at some point its just zzzzzzz
Kyveza but harder basically
Easy concept but someone always fucks up somehow
balls assignment
Dunno we are not overly good and we only needed 55 pulls
we got ppl that just cant play mario
And our kill was like a month ago
we did 33 tries on rik
Next Tuesday the bandit fun starts 
Im not sure if I should actually play col on that fight or slayer
im in fury prison atm
Considering we can actually make a good setup
but ill do arms once we get to bandit
Just play whatever you want m8
You will not struggle on stix because you play arms instead of fury
That fight is like 90% ranged dps stuff
And top logs do nothing but pad like crazy
boss dam hero
hmm sadness
we have low amount of range and not great players
.D
Yeah ok you can call that fight a prison then

Tho all you need is 2 boomies honestly
wot
They do crabs completely by themselves
Well, at least to get them out, which is what you care about the most
We were talking about stix
the ones that sit on trash piles

i swapped to monk for it
I should prob play col during prog
I guess
Or at least until I see if we have enough add damage or not
Only our enh would do that
But considering SB is the play again, maybe he will go extra hard on adds to pad
if anyone doesnt mind clarifying if im not running juggernaut or executioners precision am I just only pressing execute when id instead press slam and press ms on cd and prioritize overpower over execute during exe phase? for m+ single target
Slam does almost the same damage as execute without modifiers
But execute better odds for tactician
๐คทโโ๏ธ
aintnoway i sniped that random rank1 arms all-star rank in normal mode LOU when joining a random pug as arms
๐ญ
yup
Even with EP you would do exactly this
Totemic is still big because of 30 secs burst cycle
Cant really afford a lot of executes with the M+ talents
thank you @dim basalt @quaint otter
Just checked, seems like Totemic is actually the play there
Expected it to be SB with the most recent buffs
2min kill times
normal pug lole
normal pug yes.
Cerified balls.
Sb is very strong donโt get me wrong but with totemic you can more easily burst on every add spawn
Flexing a r1 In a new partition for normal is certainly something
thats why i say i random sniped it
shits funny asf
and completely worthless
ah true it is just very funny and random xd hehe
with brutal finish is it a dps gain to overpower 2x after bladestorm before MS?
I dont think you play around bf as arms
Any news if the kills logged with the bugged 18% renown buff got removed or we just deal with it if didnt abuse early?
hey guys, on murlok io it looks like a lot more warriors take blademasters over warlords, but in most guides and when i look up specific arms warrior players, they have all suggested or are playing warlords. was wondering which i should b playing for colossus M+, and why people would swap between them
who suggests warlords torment in keys
what
although ig its okay
in keys
now that i think of it
yea its probably equal
think about it this way: warlords torment gives you higher potential while blademaster's torment gives you more consistency
warlords vs blademasters is just a ST vs AOE choice nothing complicated
Wowhead, icyveins and this discords build section do
nah warlords thicker cleave when u have everything set up
Brother it's just a sim question. Warlords will provide more ST while blademasters will provide more AOE.

especially in m+
warlords would rock if wasnt nerfed

The only annoying part about blademasters is i notice a lot of people play around their sweeping strikes falling off for the big cleave, so not sure whether to let sweeping fall before using sweeping again, or making it one big 23 seconds sweeping strikes. thinking of 5+ bigger pulls with this
I guess it depends on your tank
Well i was more thinking about your warbreaker and cooldown windows, and being able to send a big ahh cleave b4 warbreaker falls or at least avatar falls idk
Overthinking = bad
as a warrior thinking at all = bad
Can confirm I do 20% more damage when i'm zoned out
No need to overcomplicate collateral

SS into ava always and if CDs are sub 10 seconds you can hold it for big cleave. If greater just send it without not a big deal.
And try to build it if you can for the next pack easy stuff very simple.

yea mages suck
worst players in the game
quote me on this
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Facts
woow, nice work, i really could use some advice on st arms for raids :)) my parses are 50-60
when should we be droping circlet?
put mortal strike on cd as much as possible and you will parse 80+
when robot says to do so
really? don't have to do 1x 2x overpower then mortal?
no
m+ is diff
unless ur in a ST situation
in m+ build
then yea MS on cd always is 80% of the way there
In st m+ even more ms on cd
I feel like we need a little buff

Lil buff and a rework would be perfect
A written apology and 30 days game time for this patch would also go hard
am i the only one
to have the BL buff in keys
but no haste
like my GCDs are so slow
I have not experienced that
i have 26% man
its fury stuff playing arms on 15 rookery
hunter Bls
i get no haste buff
it is displayed
but physically, i don't feel it in my GCDs getting way lower
Your GCD should be about at least 1.15s with that amount of haste
i'm at 1.19
There you go
Something's not quite right...
we tried with some mates and resilient 14 on rookery
and it didn't up the haste
with hunt's BL
see
got 25.5% haste
with a 30% haste buff XD
i got a bug lads !!!
i'm testing with a sham BL
ok it works with sham BL
so the bug is only on MM hunters
interesting.....
MM's doesnยดt work but I dont know if it's all specs or just a few
Doesnt work for Shadow either
That is a huge bug then because they changed it so mm can lust with no pet
Maybe it's just Hunter then
Are you sure you didn't have 10m debuff
i'm sure
bc it works on mythic 0
but not on keys (14 & 15)
we got resilient 14 so we tried multiple times & it resets debuffs
physical comp nerf go brrrrr
Make sure to report that lol. What a shitty bug. I will try it later
why are the servers going to go under maint again
Probably pushing bug fixes that require it
servers went down with 10m hp on the last boss of our m+ run 
which tank do yall think is the most similar to arms playstyle wise
besides prot war lol
prot pal ? x)
Prot pal maybe
Well maybe the old version were you spammed AS on cooldown
Man I miss Shadowlands protection paladin ngl
hey did u like the new blizzard aura thing? i mean, ok ish but lacks configuration
its ass
Nah I just stick with Naowhui
yes, i hope it get better... or at least to allow further configuration
context: its ass for now, until they listen to our feedback and implement changes
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Id take a rework of juggernaut
It's barely better than putting your action bar in the middle of your screen
So basicaly they added cd manager to fight WA. But now I have to instal WA to track stacks on bladestorm cause they removed buffs tracking from personal resource bar.
The buff tracking thing is a fuck up, they're trying to fix it
hope so...I have weak trust for bliz cause they havent fixed ms animation while sweeping on since 11.0.5
do i want my blademaster's torment to fall of to proc collateral before i use my sweeping strikes?
do you use slam as arms? or can you just replace it with cleave as a single target filler?
are we putting ascension on our crafted weapon?
Cleave consumes Overpower charges - and these must be spent with Mortal Strike in ST, so yes, Slam filler in ST
Also cleave does no dmg in st
if u gonna put somethin on it yea its that
6 dinar
Guess m+ only players won't have access to myth track gear
no mythic HoC
Ill never understand these arbitrary gates they put on fun
that is good
no
everyone has time to run a dungeon tho
not everyone has time to commit 4 hours 5 times a week to clear all the bosses
at least i dont have anymore
no bc people freak out if i bring an alt to mythic raid
yea but then you also dont have time to push title and need those items
neither is mythic raid
Gear comes slower from dungeons than raid which is the trade off, locking them out of content loot path sucks imo
M+ players get 1 mythic piece a week
should be 0
Based on what?
based on mythic raiders being sad that m+ players have same ilvl
Tired of guilds stuck at 4/8 killing the same easy 4 bosses complaining about m+ players
i mean i get both sides
when i was playing high end mythic raid i thought the same probably
even tho back then m+ just started and it wasnt like it is now
Raid is "harder" on the roster boss alone and should give the gear quicker imo. But locking m+ players out of gear stinks imo
i think for ppl that theres literally no chance theyd ever be able to kill myth bandit without buying it, you could spend all 6 dinar to brute force the kill requirement
and just pick up the mythic bis
and not care about other loot
take an extra 3 weeks tho
2 dinar, 6 chips
cuz i mean realistically theres no shot you buy anything heroic
But you are just gonna see people buy a run up to whatever boss they need now
the moniker doesnt matter of what its called
good business
im saying 6 coins for 1 item
also like surely theres a way to upgrade a heroic item to myth or something
like why even put the heroic shit on the vendor
yea but u can upgrade myth and crafted 2 more times
They should honestly have just done it like DF S4
heroic bis is still as far behind better weapons as now
What is the reason to gatekeep gear that far into the season anyways
maybe a little diff with the on use
from blizz perspective, there is 1 more raid tier coming so i wouldve been surprised if they did it like s4
but didint expect them to fuck non raiders over like that
I get it but it's really not that big of a deal
they couldve just nerfed trinkets at start of next tier like they did with kyveza and spymaster

