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rugged lily
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i have to wait 4pm in europe paris time ?

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had to cast it on cd was mostly on pull, then on bandit, then on bandit + first add then on bombs

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also cause we lacked boss damage so had to do it like that

minor gust
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im getting PI which helps unlucky timings is nice but yeah doing bomb dmg as colossus is very difficult

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if im not fixated I can do equal bomb dmg to thane

shadow ibex
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fury just ez mode

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i can cleave adds while fixated

minor gust
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yeah I might swap and just vibe as fury but our wipes are all over the place hard to pin point 1 issue

shadow ibex
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we cleaned up adds mega clean

minor gust
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our ranged are just constantly dying

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I mean constantly

shadow ibex
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just getting fucked by super bad add spawns and tornados

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so many pulls where we kill exploded bombs and then have to go to that add

minor gust
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its griefing our pulls because then we lose add dmg and its gg

shadow ibex
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so we got 3 x mobs worth of tornados going out and coming back in

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just cant get hit by anything

copper summit
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i hate arms do less dmg in raid vs fury but fury does less in m+

minor gust
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fury and arms are basically even in raid

copper summit
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then just me

rare kite
copper summit
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i mostly ment me

tacit crystal
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oh nah i just ran it down on cauldron

rare kite
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juicy 0 log

shadow ibex
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wat

tacit crystal
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bro

copper summit
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i have gear for both just missing a few things here and there but mostly geared for all 3 specs

tacit crystal
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i just exploded

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during the intermission

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lol

shadow ibex
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what happun

tacit crystal
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think i stood in circle while at 30%

shadow ibex
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young boy never fury again

tacit crystal
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cope

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ill be slaying the spire while they reclear rik

shadow ibex
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oblivion gamers

quaint otter
tacit crystal
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yarp

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progging ascension 10 now

oblique oar
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so did the prepull cd popping get reverted?

white inlet
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yes

potent creek
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feelsgoodman

quaint otter
hexed snow
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Weekly vault

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Legs is the only non myth track I got

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But that big red button looks juicier for every week

sacred zodiac
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Brb angle

last wagon
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can anyone explain to me the like half gcd you get sometimes on some abilities?

quasi torrent
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sweeping strikes

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is a half global

last wagon
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it feels like ms is a half gcd after overpower.. sometimes..

tacit crystal
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might be execessive haste from tier set

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but its 1 gcd

muted tree
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guys its the second week in a row that i get mythc wep and some orthe shit sims better

naive sage
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To risk getting duplicates in vault right now or to wait tomorrow afternoon

muted tree
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imm bouta lose it

shadow ibex
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needs more grills

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throw some glizzys onthe kujo flame vents

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cook up some schabongs on it

muted tree
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its also the 3rd week i get kujo

shadow ibex
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throw some dogs on the dog

noble sleet
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how much crit/haste do we generally want before we start going into the other 2 stats?

white inlet
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big

eager sigil
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jastor...

tacit crystal
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@swift crown hi i got ascension 10 on ironclad today

white inlet
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jastor simmed lower than the ring by like 10k

hexed snow
quaint otter
vivid topaz
slow saddle
white inlet
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myth ring vs hc jastor was like 10k diff once I upgrade the ring

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Myth jastor is better tho I think

last wagon
vivid topaz
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They buffed arcane and see all mage playing arcane now (they just die the first second of the first pull)

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rip keys ๐Ÿ˜„

fathom hollow
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Are EU vaults fixed?

vivid topaz
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Seems like

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Didn't see any problem when I logged

quaint otter
vivid topaz
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peaked at 16m on the first pack of cbm I probably could do more tho

vivid topaz
quaint otter
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Skill issue

vivid topaz
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or they just don't like to press alter time

quaint otter
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Mage has a lot of saves but they are active

weak wave
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Wrecking Throw now good against affix add?

light dirge
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for big packs, are we precasting avatar + funhouse lense? before a pull

minor gust
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wrecking throw is a real button now yeah

oak quartz
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Useless

still fox
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is wrecking throw in m+
relevant?

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rooky last boss?

minor gust
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I plan on taking wrecking throw into rookery

wary dune
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Do we have a confrimed case of multi vault on an EU account? Ive only seen US people opening them

halcyon valve
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Was wrecking throw buffed or what last time i checked the damage on it it was less than a mortal strike

minor gust
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ppl really dont look at this channel

fresh spire
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Why look when someone else can

halcyon valve
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Oh fuck yeah

fresh spire
still fox
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has we any other dungeon for wrecking throw?

minor gust
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theatre

halcyon valve
light dirge
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watching different videos of high keys, i never see anyone popping avatar on pull

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i dont understand why having a 20% buff rolling as you start combat doesn't work?

minor gust
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helps to link what you are talking about

light dirge
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seems like this guy just starts right away with a charge + cleave and then tclap then other stuff before avatar

minor gust
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yeah whats the question

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hes not prepopping ava

light dirge
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yeah that, i dont understand why thats benefecial

minor gust
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wdym

light dirge
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feels like some strange alien coding or something

minor gust
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hes waiting for the grp to come together and tank has aggro before he presses cds

rotund cairn
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why would you already pop your cds

minor gust
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hes not pre pressing ava idk where ur seeing that

rotund cairn
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before you're doing damage?

velvet vessel
thick kelp
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no

light dirge
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i am failing to wrap my head around that. like i get popping cd's before doing damage doesnt make sense

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but having buffs up before damage in my head makes more sense

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am i just thinking about this incorrectly?

minor gust
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WTF are you talking about

rotund cairn
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I still can't really tell how you're thinking in the first place

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what would be the benefit of having avatar rolling while you're charging

velvet vessel
# thick kelp no

so lock for ST and delve trinket for m+? or lock is good for both?

minor gust
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srsly

rotund cairn
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while you're not doing damage in general

balmy kindle
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avatar doesnt take a gcd also so there's zero benefit to pre pop

light dirge
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in my head. im like charge = then pop ava for the bonus damage into warbreaker so i can benefit from the bonus damage when i start my rotation

rotund cairn
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you literally make sure your avatar duration is less long for the part where you're doing damage

thick kelp
rotund cairn
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but how does that make sense?

balmy kindle
rotund cairn
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yes of course

dim basalt
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Whats the point in increasing the damage of warbreaker?

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Thats a global that goes into nothing

minor gust
dim basalt
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Same with roar

balmy kindle
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the lazy acceptable method is using T roar with avatar but realistically u want your avatar with your hardesting hitting stuff

fresh spire
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Should clapp/roar before avatar. Sync avatar with cs

light dirge
dim basalt
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iirc wowhead explains why you dont use avatar right away

light dirge
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like chill dawg. im trying to learn

minor gust
light dirge
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forget i asked

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thanks

minor gust
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you were mentioning prepulling avatar which was extremely confusing because thats troll af

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thats why I asked for u to link the vid cuz u mentioned high key players doing it

thick kelp
tacit crystal
smoky kayak
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tbf avatar lasts long enough that losing 1-2 gcds isn't a great big deal; it'll still cover all the important stuff anyway

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but yes, ideally it is delayed a couple to get through the "build up" and into the actual damage of the rotation

thick kelp
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Ideally avatar is removed and they make cs window real

minor gust
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agreed

balmy kindle
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alternatively, give us avatar captstones that actually matter again (cough signet)

tacit crystal
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no

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bring back cs giving reck

manic egret
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Is it decent?

grim anchor
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so when you ready to do damage the pack is dead, and you cant do big dps :((

quaint otter
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For st maybe

balmy kindle
# manic egret Is it decent?

its ok in ST, but its only really good at 678 on my char

at equal levels it loses to h track funhouse / mechano

hexed snow
manic egret
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so they removed buffs from here?

tribal kindle
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how can i enable sweeping strikes or cleave buffs above my hp and rage bar again?

manic egret
tribal kindle
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which one? i cannot figure out this specific need

manic egret
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Blizz think these are only buffs we need to track

tribal kindle
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i noticed only these 2 are available

manic egret
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so basicaly they added this to fight WA just to make ppl use WA even more

slow saddle
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Please

quaint otter
thick kelp
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negative

slow saddle
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Why?

naive breach
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Henlo

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I am afraid to open vault

slow saddle
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Dont be

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More than normal

naive breach
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I dont want 3x trashmaster

minor tendon
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It's been fixed

naive breach
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Is the wowhead post for us only or

slow saddle
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Ye

eager sigil
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vaults arent safe on eu

grim anchor
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is this normal (im 660 and lock is 651 druid is 654)

magic canopy
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yeah

quaint otter
slow saddle
rotund cairn
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that's pretty low damage overall

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was that just small pulls?

hollow plover
balmy kindle
# manic egret

Hmm it allowed me to track colossus might and EP though

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Not a WA user here so i find it serviceable

icy mulch
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Random question, has Blizzard said anything about those that exploited the raid rep?

naive breach
grim anchor
quaint otter
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At least 10th

grim anchor
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this was a +8

quaint otter
dim basalt
quaint otter
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Train at dummies first

slow saddle
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Shits prob dead

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B4 he gets to do anythin

dim basalt
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Nah otherwise prot war would have lots of dps

slow saddle
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But ye train dummies

quaint otter
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But still

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I do dummies myself before going keys tho

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To warmup

slow saddle
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Rly?, i go 100% cold

quaint otter
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Ye

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5 mins

slow saddle
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Press cleave done

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Tbh i would say waste of time. But realisticly queue simulator is more than 5mkeks

quaint otter
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I play few specs

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Need to warm up after switching

slow saddle
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Ah i only play warriir

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And dk

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And dk is just for fun๐Ÿคฃ

quaint otter
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Tempted to play frost now but dont want grind dem crests sadge

quasi torrent
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just get 675 achieve first

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and its gonna be quick as fuck

quaint otter
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Ill still need to play 1 million 10th keys

naive sage
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I still need to crack 1 million cold ones

slow saddle
quaint otter
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Going for syndragussy

minor kraken
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yo guys did they fix the vault for eu?

quasi torrent
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yes

minor kraken
astral yarrow
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damn, my chances of 3x bis is gone

fierce patrol
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heyo, question: whats the best way to SIM for m+?

midnight quail
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Sims keep wanting me to drop haste but also can't find an upgrade for my champion Quickwick Candlestick which is big haste on use. Is it dropping haste specifically because I have an on use haste trinket?

slow saddle
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What sims?

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Just sim upgrades never statvalue

icy mulch
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Oh man...

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Swifty looks so old now. He still mains Warrior right?

gray herald
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bro was in his 30s back in the old days

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must be almost 50 now

minor kraken
gray herald
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maybe even over 50

minor kraken
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i told him that i got chat banned ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

icy mulch
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lol

sacred hedge
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Hi guys, on my alt arms warrior I have just got enough stuff together to do some crafting, I have Normal Best in Slots atm, I'm assuming I'd be better crafting a weapon as the increase would be larger, I don't really have a shot at heroic or higher atm

icy mulch
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He's 39. So I am older than he is. keks

minor kraken
icy mulch
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No kidding right?!

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He's got that Sean Connery thing going on.

gray herald
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he was in his 30s like 15 years ago

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or?

hidden jasper
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swifty looks like 50 wtf

gray herald
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pretty sure he is yeah

boreal quartz
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Swifty will oneshot all of you

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With 1 macro

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Perish plebians

icy mulch
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Lol

midnight quail
gray herald
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yeah having big on use haste during cds will reduce the value of haste across the board for your character

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whether that actually changes what is an upgrade and what isnt, only the robot can tell you

minor kraken
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the guy is old!

grim anchor
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I wanted that set he always uses but its so hard to get

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field marshal set

icy mulch
somber lance
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My only goat is Loboz

minor kraken
grim anchor
empty locust
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Sim arms as dungeonslice or singletarget for m+ ?

minor kraken
manic river
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Are some arms here trying out Slayer in M+? how is it performing now?

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Thinking about switching to it for ToP

hidden jasper
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reaction time doesn't go down that much

slow saddle
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Its bad vs collosus

manic river
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even for things like theater of pain where there is a lot of priority?

icy mulch
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Yes it's bad

slow saddle
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Collosus has great prio?

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Sweep + avatar 21 seconds is decent

manic river
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21 seconds?

slow saddle
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Sweep with avatar = 21 sec sweep

quaint otter
fresh spire
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Need to lower bladestorms spin time and it might be good again

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Just too long spinning not padding

quaint otter
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More haste scaling

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Like shadowlands fury had 1 sec spin

fresh spire
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Nah. Half it's duration like fury

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Still does

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Bl bs in fury legit 2 gcds

quaint otter
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Last time i tried bs in m+

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I was goind down in details while spinning

fresh spire
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Yeh its shit

cloud dawn
grim anchor
slow saddle
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I hope so๐Ÿ˜…

cloud dawn
# grim anchor im playing demo

rotation is probably wrong, at 660 should be doing more dmg unless your stats are all wrong and youve got terrible trinkets

quaint otter
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even if all stats in vers

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u deal a lot

grim anchor
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and didnt know about stacks

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I cant do dungeons in this affix cuz I keep dying, and even the tank dies

quaint otter
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then train more

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train rotation first

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so u can do mechanics and stuff without sweat

slow saddle
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What affix??

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Is it this week? I mainly play+12s

quaint otter
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tank being bad can be considered affix?

dim basalt
slow saddle
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Keep ya impending victory rdy

regal wharf
slow saddle
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Spec into the 3m heal cd thingy

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And hold it for bad situations this way it becomes a non factor

slow saddle
# regal wharf

Well fuck... i got a lot of performance out of that fix...

fathom hollow
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Why does my signet sim so shit

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When its bis on most bis lists

slow saddle
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What???

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Its shit

misty bridge
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2min cd, when our cds are 1.5min

quaint otter
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wrong

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our cds are 20-30 sec

dim basalt
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Avatar isnt tho

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Which is what matters the most

quaint otter
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as if its combust

misty bridge
somber lance
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You guys always simming 5m?

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Most my m+ boss fights are around 3m

steady pilot
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what dungeons do we use blademasters? floodgate is one?

keen arrow
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I run it on flood, priory, brew. Namely high target count in pulls dungeons.

steady pilot
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thanks. appreciate it

grim anchor
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whats the 3 min healing cd ability

quaint otter
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bitter immunity

winter ridge
# regal wharf

I just imagined gaining 10ish fps in all situations and no freezing since I got that WA. Blizzard knows all though.

grim anchor
quaint otter
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Dunno i never pick it cuz of low talent budget

grim anchor
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ah ok

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ty

prime bramble
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Not sure it's happened to anyone else, but got a weird bug last night with heroic leap in a key. The keybind stopped working for it (not a macro just the spell itself) and still wouldn't cast after a reload. Had to remove the spell off my bars and replace it from my spellbook again.

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Could have been something I did but wasn't able to replicate.

vast drum
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Is there a good way to sim for stix

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I've been doing just 5 target but it doesn't feel super accurate so there's prob a better way

dim basalt
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Not like it would help anyway

rustic wing
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Do you always try and line up Warbreaker and Demolish or only if there CDs are close? What is the max time for waiting?

quaint otter
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If wb under 10 sec

cyan oriole
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did they reset na servers yet? can i loot vault yet?

coarse nova
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my arms sims like 40k less than fury, eventhough I feel like my stats are kinda good for arms. Does arms just sim lower than fury?

thick kelp
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yes

dapper shell
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is it common as arms that jastor diamond + 658 ring is preferred over the isle ring (cycles cricket or what its called) or is it some weird stat shifting thing ?

shadow ibex
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@naive breach yo this game is hard man

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im waiting like 10 minutes between pulls like this is a fuckin m+ dungeon with no timer

olive nest
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So yeah it can sim like that

shadow ibex
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idk how the fuck i can replace cyrce it sims better than everything p much for me still

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jastor isnt an upg for me

naive breach
olive nest
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I think I just lacked mastery because heroic jastor was like 30k for me

naive breach
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waiting for healer to reg mana

olive nest
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Over cyrcle/bloodsignet

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But then again

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Cyrcle gives mastery so idk

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But robot smort

shadow ibex
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idk

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i see everyone replace it with heroic ilvl ring

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and its still better than a jastor

quasi torrent
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as slayer i could get it to be an upgrade with hc rings

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as col it was quite doable

shadow ibex
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is the uprades left for me in m+ at heroic ilvl

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from vault the bloodstone would be .5% but other than that every other ring is within variance

quasi torrent
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think i played bloodbath + high crit low haste 658 rings on OAB

granite raptor
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guys for leg is the armor better or hp?

quasi torrent
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it simmed like -1k

shadow ibex
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i just gotta pull bloodstone from vault

quasi torrent
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but more crit just meant more consistent results for me

shadow ibex
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i got it a few weeks ago but i took something else isntead idr

pale pond
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Quick question. Is cyrce's ring just that good? Despite sims showing differently for me

eager sigil
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if you have like 23k mastery it gives more stats than a mythic ring iirc

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if you arent stacking mastery a mythic ring can beat it

pale pond
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Im faar off from the 23k mastery. Maybe 16 17k at best. Should I trust sims?

olive nest
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@shadow ibex just read an article about oblivion leveling and apparently you get 12 points for stats every level no matter what youโ€™re training

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And endurance is โ€œretroactiveโ€ so you no longer need to rush endurance first

shadow ibex
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Yea i peeped that

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Im still boosting endurance since I don't need shit else cept str

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they really di da good job revamping the skills

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blade/blunt give different effects on attacks

thick hamlet
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does raidbot in a m+ environment change "mister lock-n-stalk"s calibration

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if im using a dungeon route to sim for example

shadow ibex
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i dont have one but can u change the calibration mid key?

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if so i think the sim just changes it based on targets its fighting

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but also dont sim dungeon slice

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just sim 5 targets for whatever amount of time

shadow ibex
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then yea i assume sim ppl are smart enough to have it recalibrate for X targets

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so it should be swapping from ST to MT

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but dungeon slice is also just bad

eager sigil
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its not a good aoe trinket if thats the question

digital rock
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Hello there my warrior's fellas, i really need help to understand my sims

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sorry, i do not know is this is the place to share this, but im a bit worried

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first time something like this happens

dim basalt
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Dont sim stats, sim gear

delicate pagoda
dim basalt
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And trust the sim

digital rock
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yeah, im simming gear for example ring

dim basalt
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If the sim says its better, the chance is 99% that it really is better

digital rock
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i have faded champion and footbomb, i dont really understand why footbomb keeps simming better

dim basalt
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Stats doing their thing /shrug

vast drum
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How does it value the Gally ring? I keep on simming upgrades and weird stuff has big upgrades (one of the ToP rings is a 2.1% upgrades over it) am I getting baited or just trust

dim basalt
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We are probably one of the worst users for the gally ring, somehow

vast drum
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Interesting, doesn't help i have 18k haste and 10k crit tbh

dim basalt
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High mastery low haste is not exactly something we chase unless you have super much haste

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I have 20k haste 14k crit 8k mastery at which point the heroic version is already an upgrade of 1%

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But tbf Im also still wearing circlet lol

vast drum
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Ah interesting, I am too I was just confused

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I just swapped to mainly arms over fury when possible so my stats are def off tho

dim basalt
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If you have lots of mastery you prob dont want the ring yeah

olive nest
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You want jastor eventually

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If you have jastor and then build your other gear around it youโ€™ll end up higher dps at the end

dim basalt
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ye, altho its still prob not a massive upgrade even then

broken arrow
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Makes sense, cuz in the end Jastor is just flat out more stats

olive nest
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Indeed

digital rock
olive nest
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Mastery is a good stat for us

dim basalt
olive nest
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The only stat thatโ€™s kinda mid is vers

dim basalt
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But ye, mastery is good

olive nest
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But even the sim wants some vers if you have 0

digital rock
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4% xd

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tyvm guys, you'll are a help

shadow ibex
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@naive breach bro the zombies are unreal

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both looks and fuckin damage sponge

naive breach
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first zombie in tutorial man

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took 50000 hits

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i mean even tho its bethesda mess

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with optimization etc

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i like it

zinc yacht
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Are there any uses for Grim Codex or is it just dogshit? Second time in a row I get it in my vault sadge

naive breach
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sadgely i have it on my pala aswell

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i mean 2nd warrior

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its dog = (

zinc yacht
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Light Warrior

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Damn

shadow ibex
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just been so long since playing it on ma difficulty

naive breach
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i am giga noob tho im playing sword and board

shadow ibex
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once you get something that does some kind of magic dmg we should be good

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yea same

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i still havent found a 2h sword

naive breach
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sometimes running around like a chicken healing myself

shadow ibex
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i wish i went with blunt as a major skill now

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every bandit in this ruin has a 2h axe

naive breach
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2h axe surely doesnt count as blunt ???

shadow ibex
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they are yes

naive breach
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ngl oblivion makes me paranoid tho

shadow ibex
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i think technically axes are crushing weapons against someone armored irl as well

naive breach
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getting the out of video memory call from time to time

shadow ibex
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cuz you kinda wanna crush the man in the armor not cut it open

naive breach
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having a 13700k not a good look

shadow ibex
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my perfomance was bad until i turned off that super advanced lighting

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i built this thing during the pandemic and its playing most stuff on ultra

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just gotta fiddle with shadows/lighting at times

naive breach
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on UE5 games, people that get that bug even on 4090

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surely they are not out of video memory with 24 gigs

shadow ibex
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the luman hardware was my culprit

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turned that off and its smooth

naive breach
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performance was not the issue for me

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i just get the error

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and game crashes

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like

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it doesnt even crash

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you get that error

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i still see the game running behind that

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can still move ingame

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but as soon as you click ok or whatever it closes

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could be degradation of the cpu. its a possibility at least

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switching to amd if this shitty mofo dies

shadow ibex
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hmmm idk

naive breach
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STILL

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oblivion is good

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i like it

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from time to time i still visit my goth gf umbra

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she still sucks my soul out of me

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murders me in cold blood. good times

shadow ibex
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i need that sword

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its still 1h yea?

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it was 2h in morrowind i think

naive breach
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at least she is wearing it with a shield next to it

#

slapping my ass

shadow ibex
#

was slightly hoping they would make it 2h again cuz there's so many good 1h swords

#

yea i figured

#

not many good named melee weapons in the game that arent 1h swords

naive breach
#

i imagine tes 6

#

will it be glorious

#

or dogshit

shadow ibex
#

hopefully the remake does well

#

and they get an idea of what people want

old urchin
#

We want TES 6

#

Thatโ€™s what we want

lunar remnant
#

Fallout 3 remastered would be lit too

naive breach
#

fallout new vegas

#

hit me daddy

lunar remnant
#

^

shadow ibex
#

i think if they remaster 3 they would do NV alongside it

#

its practically same game

#

i mean the fact you can get a mod that allows you to combine them

olive nest
#

Fallout 3 in UE5

#

Holly Molly Iโ€™m so in

shadow ibex
#

fallout 3 was my shit man

somber lance
#

is house of cards so good because it's 1,5m?

copper summit
#

this was weird

rare kite
#

based

shadow ibex
#

gonnna get on each others shoulders in a big coat

naive breach
#

dorf superiority

copper summit
#

how are these 2600 i.o ppl getting 13-14 keys lol

olive nest
#

Just a dorf living in a dorf world

naive breach
#

how to get into 15s as warrior

#

explain

#

rename to Revvรชz on tarrenmill or wherever echo is ?

#

deception 100

rocky gate
#

Is there a reason 90% of the top arms (allia) seem to be night elfs? is it just shadowmeld is useful or something else to it?

olive nest
#

Shadowmeld is pretty strong

dim basalt
#

why the fuck is my game blurry when I start it

olive nest
#

Just completely not get any mechanic of your choosing if itโ€™s something you can see ahead of time

void bay
dim basalt
flat willow
#

delete shadowmeld

#

my blood beast explodes on an orc unholy dk, I rip threat and die

#

the blood beast explodes on a night elf unholy dk, he shadowmelds and deals twice the damage of the second dps

#

that doesn't seem very fair

olive nest
#

Sounds like threat is the problem

flat willow
#

tanks don't like when a rng proc deals 20M damage to every mob 10 seconds into the pull

tacit crystal
#

deserved for not nelf

flat willow
#

especially if some mobs came a little later

naive breach
#

where is my bloodbeast

naive sage
#

I'm maining enha this season, something is wrong with threat considering how i get instameleed with a single voltaic blaze or rip aggro after 25 seocnds

naive breach
#

garrosh spawns as ghostly friend and does giga bladestorm

olive nest
#

Nah if tanks actively pressing a damage ability all mobs within range that were hit by that ability should just be glued to the tank

flat willow
#

that's the kind of ideas that will save warrior

olive nest
#

Threat is such an old concept and is annoying to play around

naive breach
#

like warrior class

naive sage
naive breach
flat willow
rocky gate
#

Is there a general WA people recommend for Arms or is just Luxthos one fine

dim basalt
#

I use Publiks and modified it a bit

naive sage
hexed snow
open ingot
#

i use luxthos

#

has other people had the issue where ravager appears to be off cd on the weak aura but its not?

#

swear it was a bug last season but has came back again

#

assuming anger management is screwing it up

somber lance
#

possible my sims tell me to remove the %crit gem?

spiral coral
#

Actually use their wa for everything but fire

dim basalt
somber lance
#

oh i thought it was an auto include

dim basalt
#

Not necessarily

#

I use the movement gem anyway :v)

zinc yacht
wide pebble
#

Rallying Cry rework:

Cry out for help since we donโ€™t do enough damage. 50% chance to spawn either the ghost of Garrosh or Varian Wrynn. When crying for help below 30% health, spawn both.

While spawns active, slam damage increased by 6% per active spawn.

naive breach
#

Varian spawns

#

Throws you into same fel pool shit where tirion died

#

Brown class deleted

mild hound
#

Mythic weapon in vault replacing crafted wep or mythic pants replacing heroic. Hmm

#

Need the sims

potent cedar
#

My damage is super super awful on mugzee

#

should I just go fury?

#

ig if my groups ain't getting to execute phase I can't really say that

spiral coral
#

If you donโ€™t get a replacement ofc

#

Unless you have two mythic weapons

weak wave
#

Why does crit rating give less % than haste rating?

#

I'm at 36% crit

#

This can't be diminishing return can it?

sacred zodiac
#

kritischer trefferwert

weak wave
#

yeah thats crit rating in german

sacred zodiac
#

i know it is still funny

daring heron
#

frappe mortelle

swift crown
#

frappe mortelle

copper summit
#

worst part about doing ur own keys is when u get the same key you already timed -.-

silk spade
grand idol
#

haste at 0

lunar remnant
#

im about to do gw on arms first time - when do I use wrecking throw lol

quasi torrent
#

when shield is up or you're out of melee

random ibex
#

does anyone know of a way to disable the blizzard CD manager text?

terse plume
#

is arms better for sproket if you have to do mines vs fury?

random ibex
#

what ever sims better for ST

terse plume
#

its more about managing the downtime as furys hurt pretty badly by downtime for popping mines

teal fossil
terse plume
#

each class interacts with secondaries at varying rates

#

hell each spec does

vast drum
#

Did I get baited by not taking hero eye when I have myth visc and hero mechano core? Ik its bis technically but I tried simming it a million times and I always got a downgrade, for M raids in particular (I already have normal as well)

shadow ibex
#

Eye should be good for later fights assuming ur progging

#

It will stack to max on your prog kills

#

Atp in heroic clears it won't

vast drum
#

Ye we'll get stix done this week, it was just hard to justify taking a 7 ilvl upgrade on a trink over getting mythic belt that replaces my last champ tier item so idk

outer turret
#

Hello I have a question. Is 2.67 overall on a priory 10 ok or terrible? 663 ilvl

vernal pebble
#

The best dmg on priory is 5m overall, so u can improve

outer turret
#

Damn so Iโ€™m 50% under thatโ€™s brutal

bold granite
#

god, fuck off juggernaut

#

maintaining 15 stacks through OAB is such a fucking annoyance

vernal pebble
#

@outer turret i think u maybe using collateral wrong, that makes a huge difference

outer turret
#

Maybe Iโ€™m not sure how to use it correctly. Think Iโ€™m also wasting overpowered stacks on MS instead of cleave

wintry arch
#

can i avatar prepull carnage?

#

or was that removed

somber geyser
#

they reverted that change so yea u can

wintry arch
#

cool ty

random ibex
runic rock
#

is heroic gallywix considered a ST or cleave fight? the adds are up for such a short period i wasnt sure if its worth swapping

grand idol
#

As fury I gave up (I know this is the arms channel). I just burst on them when they drop and focus one down so its bomb can be ferried.

nova marsh
runic rock
#

thats what i figured @nova marsh

stable fiber
#

yeah im jorking it

#

best boss fight ever made i think

#

like seriously

rare kite
#

gj tho

stable fiber
#

1 pi is on pull and its useless

#

cause lust and i prepopped avatar

#

so like

#

really only 1

#

kill times have such a massive impact

#

like i would have had rank 1 rik by like 150k dps i think

#

but because we didnt killed it before second intermission its only a rank 3

rare kite
stable fiber
#

for cauldron

#

rik i got 2 intermissions and it just cuts 200k off your end dps

nova marsh
#

Guys

#

How the fuck do you perform better when half asleep

cunning violet
#

on ST, SD exec>Overpower even if OP is at 2 stacks?

regal wharf
#

where can I get old dragonflight seasonal items

reef glade
#

like wha

sacred ore
#

can anyone tell me what is their percent uptime on dawnthread

rare kite
sacred ore
#

what about for a dungeon?

rare kite
#

82% in my last dungeon

warm flicker
#

ideally what dungeons do you want to use warlords torment isntead of blade master

magic canopy
#

i dont even swap

#

its value in all of em

warm flicker
#

i feel like with blademaster im doing higher overall

minor gust
#

well yeah blademaster is more aoe

#

warlords is more ST

#

but warlords also provides value in all situations while blademaster has 0 value in ST

slow saddle
minor gust
#

and you use that info when you weigh into what you wanna run

#

its just a choice

slow saddle
#

Blademaster always

#

๐Ÿ˜…

minor gust
#

if thats what you wanna do

slow saddle
#

Bring back reck on cs

minor gust
#

Arms is pissing me off more and more every key

#

Just really hate dealing with demolish

warm flicker
#

i kind of miss fury everytime i think about demolish

boreal hawk
#

is better dawnthread or duskthread on arms?

reef glade
#

probably dawnthread cuz crit good but can sim it

wooden lava
#

What's the most guaranteed way to get PI?

#

I'm supposed to get it during mug'zee intermission

#

but the priest who's supposed to give it to me is very inconsistent

sacred zodiac
#

Replace your priest with a consistent priest

oblique oar
hushed pine
flat willow
#

Give him the conquest speech

#

And end it with

#

"Prepare for my avatar, worm"

hushed pine
#

"I am so lonely"

#

"All these other Arms warriors are afraid of me"

oak atlas
#

hey guys. how much behind is colossus on st dmg? I find slayer a bit bland tbh

quaint otter
#

Try simmin

#

Sheets told its was like 3%

#

But those for bis gear

swift crown
slow saddle
#

mor

#

e

#

๐Ÿ˜„

swift crown
#

Disadvantage: have to find new guild afterwards

wooden lava
wooden lava
#

it's been resolved now

quaint otter
slow saddle
#

slayer

quaint otter
slow saddle
#

true true

#

i still think Capital punisher should be buffed heavily

slow saddle
#

Fml

#

Stix prison starts today

astral yarrow
#

hit boss, hold avatar until ball assignments go out and bs when hyenas get to boss and then hope your tank is competent enough to not suck on the balls every time

dim basalt
slow saddle
dim basalt
#

I really like the sprocketmonger fight but at some point its just zzzzzzz

#

Kyveza but harder basically

#

Easy concept but someone always fucks up somehow

quaint otter
#

gladge balls assignment

dim basalt
#

Stix is still significantly easier tho

#

~50 to 60 pulls

slow saddle
#

i mean

#

in a good raid yes

#

my guild i bet stix a mechanicly heavy fight

dim basalt
#

Dunno we are not overly good and we only needed 55 pulls

slow saddle
#

we got ppl that just cant play mario

dim basalt
#

And our kill was like a month ago

slow saddle
#

we did 33 tries on rik

dim basalt
#

Next Tuesday the bandit fun starts yep

#

Im not sure if I should actually play col on that fight or slayer

slow saddle
#

im in fury prison atm

dim basalt
#

Considering we can actually make a good setup

slow saddle
#

but ill do arms once we get to bandit

dim basalt
#

Just play whatever you want m8

#

You will not struggle on stix because you play arms instead of fury

#

That fight is like 90% ranged dps stuff

#

And top logs do nothing but pad like crazy

astral yarrow
#

boss dam hero

slow saddle
#

we have low amount of range and not great players

#

.D

dim basalt
#

Yeah ok you can call that fight a prison then

#

Tho all you need is 2 boomies honestly

eager sigil
#

boomie kinda shit on that boss

#

takes too long to do dam

dim basalt
#

wot

#

They do crabs completely by themselves

#

Well, at least to get them out, which is what you care about the most

eager sigil
#

what crabs

#

arent you talking about bandit

dim basalt
#

We were talking about stix

astral yarrow
#

the ones that sit on trash piles

eager sigil
#

ah i just read bandit

#

yea on stix boomkin is like twice as good as any melee

dim basalt
#

I have no idea what our setup for Bandit is gonna look like

#

Prob 3 shadows n shit

eager sigil
#

boss will get shot again probably

#

we just reached it and its rough

dim basalt
eager sigil
#

i swapped to monk for it

dim basalt
#

I should prob play col during prog

#

I guess

#

Or at least until I see if we have enough add damage or not

eager sigil
#

once adds die fast people will stop hitting them and they die slow again

#

very epic

dim basalt
#

Only our enh would do that

#

But considering SB is the play again, maybe he will go extra hard on adds to pad

near mauve
#

if anyone doesnt mind clarifying if im not running juggernaut or executioners precision am I just only pressing execute when id instead press slam and press ms on cd and prioritize overpower over execute during exe phase? for m+ single target

quaint otter
#

Slam does almost the same damage as execute without modifiers

#

But execute better odds for tactician

#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

hollow plover
#

aintnoway i sniped that random rank1 arms all-star rank in normal mode LOU when joining a random pug as arms

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

dim basalt
#

Even with EP you would do exactly this

naive sage
dim basalt
#

Cant really afford a lot of executes with the M+ talents

near mauve
#

thank you @dim basalt @quaint otter

dim basalt
#

Expected it to be SB with the most recent buffs

eager sigil
#

normal pug lole

hollow plover
quaint otter
#

Cerified balls.

naive sage
sacred zodiac
hollow plover
#

shits funny asf

#

and completely worthless

eager sigil
#

ah true it is just very funny and random xd hehe

zenith lodge
#

with brutal finish is it a dps gain to overpower 2x after bladestorm before MS?

sacred zodiac
#

I dont think you play around bf as arms

grave kiln
#

Any news if the kills logged with the bugged 18% renown buff got removed or we just deal with it if didnt abuse early?

sacred zodiac
#

Its a log who cares

#

I assume if its not removed you can probably report those

shut hound
#

hey guys, on murlok io it looks like a lot more warriors take blademasters over warlords, but in most guides and when i look up specific arms warrior players, they have all suggested or are playing warlords. was wondering which i should b playing for colossus M+, and why people would swap between them

hollow plover
#

what

#

although ig its okay

#

in keys

#

now that i think of it

#

yea its probably equal

#

think about it this way: warlords torment gives you higher potential while blademaster's torment gives you more consistency

minor gust
#

warlords vs blademasters is just a ST vs AOE choice nothing complicated

west lagoon
hollow plover
minor gust
#

Brother it's just a sim question. Warlords will provide more ST while blademasters will provide more AOE.

hollow plover
#

not everything is about sims

#

๐Ÿ”ฅ

minor gust
hollow plover
#

especially in m+

quaint otter
#

warlords would rock if wasnt nerfed

obtuse heart
hollow plover
#

this is a mage

#

dont let him fool u

shut hound
#

The only annoying part about blademasters is i notice a lot of people play around their sweeping strikes falling off for the big cleave, so not sure whether to let sweeping fall before using sweeping again, or making it one big 23 seconds sweeping strikes. thinking of 5+ bigger pulls with this

naive sage
shut hound
#

Well i was more thinking about your warbreaker and cooldown windows, and being able to send a big ahh cleave b4 warbreaker falls or at least avatar falls idk

quaint otter
#

Overthinking = bad

zenith lodge
#

as a warrior thinking at all = bad

broken arrow
#

Can confirm I do 20% more damage when i'm zoned out

minor gust
#

No need to overcomplicate collateral

fresh spire
minor gust
#

SS into ava always and if CDs are sub 10 seconds you can hold it for big cleave. If greater just send it without not a big deal.

#

And try to build it if you can for the next pack easy stuff very simple.

obtuse heart
hollow plover
#

worst players in the game

#

quote me on this

#

๐Ÿ”ฅ

slow saddle
#

Facts

inland drift
wanton sierra
#

when should we be droping circlet?

hollow plover
hollow plover
inland drift
slow saddle
#

?

#

U will naturally

inland drift
#

fair, so MS always on cd

#

no wait

#

same in m+? xD

hollow plover
#

no

#

m+ is diff

#

unless ur in a ST situation

#

in m+ build

#

then yea MS on cd always is 80% of the way there

slow saddle
#

In st m+ even more ms on cd

serene thicket
#

I feel like we need a little buff

wintry arch
#

Lil buff and a rework would be perfect

#

A written apology and 30 days game time for this patch would also go hard

olive nest
#

Can they make MS and Execute hit 5% harder or something

rugged lily
#

am i the only one

#

to have the BL buff in keys

#

but no haste

#

like my GCDs are so slow

wintry arch
#

I have not experienced that

olive nest
#

Nah you definitely should feel when lust happens

#

Do you have like 10% haste!?

rugged lily
#

i have 26% man

#

its fury stuff playing arms on 15 rookery

#

hunter Bls

#

i get no haste buff

#

it is displayed

#

but physically, i don't feel it in my GCDs getting way lower

hushed pine
#

Your GCD should be about at least 1.15s with that amount of haste

rugged lily
#

i'm at 1.19

hushed pine
#

There you go

rugged lily
#

during BL it doesn't go lower

#

it should go lower lol

hushed pine
#

Something's not quite right...

rugged lily
#

we tried with some mates and resilient 14 on rookery

#

and it didn't up the haste

#

with hunt's BL

#

see

#

got 25.5% haste

#

with a 30% haste buff XD

#

i got a bug lads !!!

#

i'm testing with a sham BL

#

ok it works with sham BL

#

so the bug is only on MM hunters

void bay
#

interesting.....

rugged lily
#

BM's BL also works like sham's one

#

its only MM's bl

swift crown
#

MM's doesnยดt work but I dont know if it's all specs or just a few

#

Doesnt work for Shadow either

rugged lily
#

didn't work on war & dh for us

#

and sham too

#

only for him

void bay
#

That is a huge bug then because they changed it so mm can lust with no pet

swift crown
#

Maybe it's just Hunter then

void bay
#

Are you sure you didn't have 10m debuff

rugged lily
#

i'm sure

#

bc it works on mythic 0

#

but not on keys (14 & 15)

#

we got resilient 14 so we tried multiple times & it resets debuffs

#

physical comp nerf go brrrrr

void bay
#

Make sure to report that lol. What a shitty bug. I will try it later

regal wharf
#

why are the servers going to go under maint again

olive nest
#

Probably pushing bug fixes that require it

hollow plover
#

apparently havoc hero talents are bugged rn

#

as i was told by my guildmate

wintry arch
#

Yeah our havoc was very upset last raid

#

And heโ€™s predisposed to malding already

rough sluice
#

servers went down with 10m hp on the last boss of our m+ run deadge

sleek crow
#

which tank do yall think is the most similar to arms playstyle wise

#

besides prot war lol

rugged lily
#

prot pal ? x)

olive nest
#

Prot pal maybe

#

Well maybe the old version were you spammed AS on cooldown

#

Man I miss Shadowlands protection paladin ngl

wanton sierra
#

hey did u like the new blizzard aura thing? i mean, ok ish but lacks configuration

hollow plover
#

its ass

olive nest
#

Nah I just stick with Naowhui

wanton sierra
#

yes, i hope it get better... or at least to allow further configuration

hollow plover
#

context: its ass for now, until they listen to our feedback and implement changes

serene thicket
slow saddle
#

Id take a rework of juggernaut

fresh tide
#

It's barely better than putting your action bar in the middle of your screen

manic egret
#

So basicaly they added cd manager to fight WA. But now I have to instal WA to track stacks on bladestorm cause they removed buffs tracking from personal resource bar.

fresh tide
#

The buff tracking thing is a fuck up, they're trying to fix it

manic egret
#

hope so...I have weak trust for bliz cause they havent fixed ms animation while sweeping on since 11.0.5

dim basalt
#

Its prob just a single dev doing the entire feature alone

#

Kinda rough

spice wyvern
#

do i want my blademaster's torment to fall of to proc collateral before i use my sweeping strikes?

night peak
#

do you use slam as arms? or can you just replace it with cleave as a single target filler?

tacit crystal
#

no

#

you use slam regularly

silver mica
#

are we putting ascension on our crafted weapon?

loud wadi
silent thunder
#

Also cleave does no dmg in st

reef glade
naive breach
#

critcake 6 dinar

prime bramble
#

2 dinars

#

6 chips

naive breach
#

ah

#

didint read raid gear thingy

#

eh

prime bramble
#

Guess m+ only players won't have access to myth track gear

naive breach
#

critcake no mythic HoC

prime bramble
#

Fun stuff blizz

#

Mythic carry prices

#

About to skyrocket

naive breach
#

welp

#

time to log out

prime bramble
#

Ill never understand these arbitrary gates they put on fun

tacit crystal
#

no

eager sigil
#

i need to do m+ to raid

#

they need to raid to m+

#

just fair

naive breach
#

everyone has time to run a dungeon tho

#

not everyone has time to commit 4 hours 5 times a week to clear all the bosses

#

at least i dont have anymore

tacit crystal
#

no bc people freak out if i bring an alt to mythic raid

eager sigil
naive breach
#

titel is not very hard tho with a team

#

title+

eager sigil
#

neither is mythic raid

prime bramble
#

Gear comes slower from dungeons than raid which is the trade off, locking them out of content loot path sucks imo

naive breach
#

the time commitment is tho

#

as someone working 3 shifts its impossible

prime bramble
#

M+ players get 1 mythic piece a week

eager sigil
#

should be 0

prime bramble
#

Based on what?

naive breach
#

based on mythic raiders being sad that m+ players have same ilvl

prime bramble
#

Tired of guilds stuck at 4/8 killing the same easy 4 bosses complaining about m+ players

naive breach
#

i mean i get both sides

#

when i was playing high end mythic raid i thought the same probably

#

even tho back then m+ just started and it wasnt like it is now

prime bramble
#

Raid is "harder" on the roster boss alone and should give the gear quicker imo. But locking m+ players out of gear stinks imo

reef glade
#

i think for ppl that theres literally no chance theyd ever be able to kill myth bandit without buying it, you could spend all 6 dinar to brute force the kill requirement

#

and just pick up the mythic bis

#

and not care about other loot

#

take an extra 3 weeks tho

prime bramble
#

2 dinar, 6 chips

reef glade
#

cuz i mean realistically theres no shot you buy anything heroic

prime bramble
#

But you are just gonna see people buy a run up to whatever boss they need now

reef glade
#

the moniker doesnt matter of what its called

eager sigil
#

good business

reef glade
#

im saying 6 coins for 1 item

#

also like surely theres a way to upgrade a heroic item to myth or something

tacit crystal
#

why cant we just have a vendor and buy all gear

#

smh

reef glade
#

like why even put the heroic shit on the vendor

eager sigil
#

you can upgrade heroic 2 more times

#

almost there

reef glade
#

yea but u can upgrade myth and crafted 2 more times

rose matrix
#

They should honestly have just done it like DF S4

reef glade
#

heroic bis is still as far behind better weapons as now

rose matrix
#

What is the reason to gatekeep gear that far into the season anyways

reef glade
#

maybe a little diff with the on use

naive breach
#

but didint expect them to fuck non raiders over like that

rose matrix
#

I get it but it's really not that big of a deal

naive breach
#

they couldve just nerfed trinkets at start of next tier like they did with kyveza and spymaster

rose matrix
#

It so far into the season and the people who are jumping straight into mythic next season will have that gear regardless

#

I just mean like making all the items one track