arms

[slow saddle]

I mean give us the dk facelift

Their rework was great tree wise

[shadow ibex]

The most significant change is arms got surv in 2h spec. Probably most significant change across both expacs for the class tree

Arms historical one of squishier specs

[slow saddle]

Hmm unhinged

[shadow ibex]

I mean class tree

[slow saddle]

And we lost the defense of ip

So needed it

[shadow ibex]

They've redone it 3 or 4 times now but it's most same

[slow saddle]

Delete spear

[shadow ibex]

Nah I think spear should be a utility ability like ursol

Put the spear crit stuff on avatar

[slow saddle]

Would make avatar more fun y

[shadow ibex]

Just no reason to have 3 90 sec cds

Esp if they do no dam like atm since the aura nerfs

[weak rain]

another tunning patch without bs buff, fuck dat

[halcyon valve]

Healer issue tbh

[shadow ibex]

That extra stamina is nice

That's like the iftk matching cs change seems small but if you been playing this shit for awhile

[merry stone]

Maybe a silly question: I’ve just downloaded the WA for when to hit execute. If the aura goes off twice in a row, does that mean hit execute twice or did one proc override the first one?

[sacred zodiac]

Probably two kaching conditionals Happening close to each other but one execute press should solve both

[spiral coral]

-35% you just replace slam with execute and follow normal prio

[kind thunder]

does slayer ST need to line up anything or just ooga?

[slow saddle]

Wdym? Avatar with cs if close

[kind thunder]

i see

do yall enjoy anger management gameplay or would prefer a more lined up CDs?

[dim basalt]

AM makes the spec fun

Otherwise it would be even more bland

[weak rain]

playing AM + ToM is kinda fun, if only you could iftk+tom, just like in bfa

[halcyon breach]

Willingly playing ToM is diabolical

[kind thunder]

i like that it rewards uptime but i do wish other things would line up better with it ngl, coming from other specs it feels hella odd to not put any major cd on some "burst" windows

[misty bridge]

His name fits

[latent moss]

now one of the tankiest

[icy mulch]

Which is fine, fits their "fantasy" better, as the master of arms on the battle field.

[latent moss]

wish arms kinda fit like prot ngl

unkillable against physical

type shit

arms is literally a mountain of steel fantasy wise

[sacred zodiac]

Stop spreading woke propaganda that goes against the world view that ppl are dying cause noob not caude arms doesnt have 3 immunes and a cheat death

Other way around but i cba fixing the logic

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wait-waiting-cat-wait-waiting-cat-waiting-gif-9780709586447195996

[hexed snow]

Arms just a guy with big sword

Fury guy with two big sword

[wispy escarp]

Sometimes guy just want to read book, but then sword need nice guy to swing it. So here guy is.

[fathom hollow]

Any high m+ warrior (top 50), how do you sim for m+, what time limit / number of mobs

[prisma bluff]

Good friends, a question, what is the order of secondary stats in warrior weapons for mythical

[swift crown]

1. Weapon DPS
2. Strength
3. Average Weapon damage multiplied by Attack speed
4. Weapon DPS
5. Whichever secondaries you can get with the above 4 priorities in mind

[prisma bluff]

In critical, mastery speed approximately what is the % 😮

[sacred zodiac]

sim it

you are looking for a one size fits all answer for something that doesn't have one

most of us just take the first mythic weapon we get and run with it cause the stats on them literally do not matter

[teal fossil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[unkempt wren]

I feel very awkward under 20% haste, but whether that's best for dps or not is irrelevant to me. Gotta feel good to play good 😛

[teal fossil]

That’s why you go 30.11%

[unkempt wren]

But I can't count that high 😦

I just noticed you name, lol
Friggin love it

[karmic briar]

hey for m+ cleave situations there is no other way to apply rend besides thunder clap right ?

[sacred zodiac]

i asked chatgpt for my stat weights thought you'd want to all see and know @visual fern @halcyon breach @daring heron @daring flicker @dawn stag

[sacred zodiac]

assuming you have the talent, mortal strike applies rend to targets below a health threshold i forgot what it was

[visual fern]

Show prompt bucko

[sacred zodiac]

and you can sweep that rend application from an injured target to a healthy one

[kind thunder]

I could be wrong, but if u MS a target that is bellow the health threshhold for Bloodletting to proc with Sweepin strikes up, u also apply it to the second target

[karmic briar]

i mean in a double or triple pack situation

[sacred zodiac]

its completely unhinged i had to remind it 4 times that its simGPT and it doesnt need to refer me to raidbots it can just sim it in its head and tell me

[visual fern]

Ok but show prompt....

[sacred zodiac]

which one

this is like a 5 minute ordeal to get it to not refer me to raidbots

this is what i started with but needed nudging

[spiral coral]

Omfg 😂

[teal fossil]

The last part is crazy

[kindred moss]

guys i am a fury main thinking bout dabbling in arms hows the pace for arms?

[spiral coral]

Bro c’mon over

ST feels meh but anything 2+ just feels insane

[sacred zodiac]

just go try it

[spiral coral]

I went to fury for a bit, I came back. Arms is fucking goated rn.

[swift galleon]

Hey yall, i am a fury to Arms convert - Do you all have a suggestion of a good rotation guide / priority list that I can start teaching myself with? I am 660 ilvl and only doing around 2 to 2.4 mill overall in M+ 10 and I really think I am doing it wrong - need to be over 3 mil. Thoughts?

[kindred moss]

y but i always felt like arms has a lot of downtime

[boreal quartz]

M+ take

[spiral coral]

Fury MT rotation does feel awesome to me though

[sacred zodiac]

wowhead is all you need

[boreal quartz]

Doesnt have any downtime

[spiral coral]

I have never felt that way but I’ve only been playing arms since DF

[swift galleon]

Also, I am 35 crit, 28 haste, 23 mastery, 4 vers. Are my stats way outta whack?

[sacred zodiac]

otherwise watch ppl play the game and you'll be fine

[swift galleon]

thank you

[spiral coral]

There’s always something necessary to press

[boreal quartz]

Melee attack parried 3 times

[spiral coral]

There’s never a time as arms where I was like “ig I’m waiting for a cd”

[boreal quartz]

Perish

[sacred zodiac]

idk none of us can give you a real 100% stamp approved answer you're best off just simming your top gears and droptimizers to see what to farm

[manic river]

They are good to start switching, arms is crit - hate mostly

[sacred zodiac]

mugzee parried my x3 mfe execute twice in a row

[boreal quartz]

N**b

[manic river]

well i wanted to say haste, but hate is also good

[swift galleon]

than ks Spongie

[sacred zodiac]

arms isnt a spec like fire mage that loves one stat and hates the rest we want everything

[manic river]

Yeah

But as a guideline focus on good crit and then haste but also try to take mast for example

[sacred zodiac]

ya idk i dont think you should be thinking abt gearing that way

[spiral coral]

Or vers. Depending on what your sims say.

[manic river]

Is vers. simming good for some arms?

[spiral coral]

Was for me on rings

But my gear stat weights are different elsewhere I’m sure

[manic river]

ah you mean it recommended rings with vers

[dawn stag]

Its right

[stable robin]

so in M+ in ST do i need to press slam or can i just fill it with something else?

[manic river]

slam is the filler when you don't have anything else

[stable robin]

true

[spiral coral]

I don’t really pay attention to stats. I just go with what the sims say, compare it to discord and just go “alright then”

[manic river]

don't use cleave for that unless you have colateral damage built up

[teal fossil]

Bro how come no one is linking the gif for me

Why do I have to do it every time

[spiral coral]

Slam does good filler damage, don’t feel weird using it.

[stable robin]

ok

[manic river]

specially since this expansion when it got buffed

[stable robin]

thanks

[spiral coral]

Necessary in st tbh

Then in execute phase just replace slam with execute

Ez

[manic river]

Honestly I wish I could get my haste to 20 %...

and feel swifter

[spiral coral]

I’m at like 40% crit and 20% haste and very happy

[sacred zodiac]

what are you talking about

[boreal quartz]

M+ers

[sacred zodiac]

i mean yeah but that advice only applies to one very specific colossus m+ build

[visual fern]

Need AI figuring out optimal APL....

[sacred zodiac]

You are APLGPT, the foremost expert on figuring out the optimal Warrior Simc APL

[kindred moss]

so just a question if i wanna commit how much loss is it to keep my wrist with vers mastery instead of haste crit as my crafted piece

[sacred zodiac]

sim it in top gear

[latent moss]

2t feels insane with cds and rolling high on eb and blord

10 globals 8 of them are ms

[spiral coral]

“Below 35%, Execute becomes the priority rage spender - dropping Slam from the rotation entirely. Mortal Strike is used exclusively to maintain Rend and Deep Wounds at two stacks of Executioner's Precision, while Overpower becomes a filler to help maintain rage. Despite Execute's apparent low priority, it is the most frequently used ability during the phase.”

[latent moss]

u spam execute in exe

ms at 2x ep

[spiral coral]

Ohhhh okie yeah I see.

[latent moss]

and op with opportunist if u are low rage

[latent moss]

as slayer

as colo with the m+ build (no ep)

exe just replaces slam

ms>op>exe>slam

[spiral coral]

Was giving skewed advice because slayer arms is too big brain for me

[manic river]

With colo m+ ms and op are above exe?

[latent moss]

if by colo m+ u mean no executioners precision, yes

[manic river]

I mean aside from the ep charges

[latent moss]

but ep is legit useless

in m+ as colo

[manic river]

So even at 35 hp you go for ms?

[latent moss]

yes

[manic river]

(first=

weird I thought we just did the same of spamming exe and ms every two charges

[latent moss]

nope

colo u don't play ep

u just ms>op>exe>slam

on st

and cleave>ms>op on aoe

[vital hedge]

What is your opinion about pushing Rio? I had no problems to be invited in any groups until now. I timed all 12, want to start pushing 13's but noone invites me anymore, i Play 2h queue Simulator with 0 invites. Any1 struggling the same? I have an impression that due to vdh+disci meta, 3 dps slots must have BL and 2x CR

[muted tree]

i am struggling too

the same thing as you

we are not in the meta tbh

we only offer dmg

as a class

[void bay]

i dont do more than 12 on warrior but it sounds like you need to find a grp of regulars to play with

[fair siren]

you only need 1 cr, look for groups with udk in it already or ones with brew/guardian tanks. i just got to 13 resil by pugging and it does take awhile but you do still get invited. its slow and using your own key helps a lot. rsham healers and hunters in the group is another good probability indicator to getting in groups

[void bay]

Why hunters? I struggle for grps on my hunter

[vital hedge]

Because Hunters and Rogues benefits from thr battle shout

[void bay]

ah ofc

[fair siren]

hunter and wars go well together when people make groups its a sign they arent trying to copy the god comp of veng/priest/udk/boomie/mage

[merry kettle]

Does collateral damage's 25% extra dmg per ability used during sweeping strikes counts the cleaves used during it?

[vital hedge]

Critcake is pushing with ret and demo,
Noxiv od playing with rogue and Hunter
One other top warrior is playing with rogue and ww

[fair siren]

ye farover still on the first page albeit rank 40 key

[sacred zodiac]

you talent the thing that makes cleave slam aswell

so at 3+ targets you would slam which counts towards cd

[merry kettle]

Sick ty for clear answer

[shadow ibex]

Arms still needs indomitable

Give me that and I'll be content like 5 years

[spiral coral]

I mean. There was Hunters just complaining about not getting into keys. And I never, ever see that. I think it’s just how the dungeons are scaled and there’s not enough levels to find peoples desired skill level for pugging.

It’s ass

[slow saddle]

13 is a spot where ppl want meta in gen yes

And as said meta tank + healer

Dont bring bl or cr

So makes choices for dps mage/evo/sham

And melee competing with rogue-dk-ret

Ret is just a safer bet than warrior

[minor gust]

Hence if you wanna push keys the priority should be to find people to play with not pug

[slow saddle]

100%

I wish i had themtime

[minor gust]

Is what it is

[slow saddle]

Im not complainin i just want 3k

Got plenty a time

I choosento raid

Could find a team instead

I lowkey enjoy the pug experience

[icy mulch]

I'm almost 3.2k and it only gets worse. Each tier, or patch it just seems to keep piling up.

[slow saddle]

U dont enjoy meetin new ppl

?

Or the queue simulator

[vital hedge]

Same, i just want 3k, need 40 Rio then i reroll to unholy to be pug metaslave

[slow saddle]

...

Uhdk dead

3% aoe nerf

Unplayable now

[vital hedge]

Tired of 2h in queue and git inved into 13 only by 2550 Rio ppl WHO didnt event complete all 11..

[slow saddle]

Ok tbh isnt that bsd fpr me yet. But just starting 13s soon

Got 2 11s i wanna up to 12s meadery and priory

[vital hedge]

I had no problems until i finished all 12. Started to try 13 and IT become hell

[slow saddle]

Lel

I had a tank in 12 workshop

[vital hedge]

I was in queue max 5min for 12

[slow saddle]

Wanting rouge for skip

I was like potion

[vital hedge]

And now on 13 i wait 2h for 0 invites

[slow saddle]

• lost way more time by his mistakes than 1 skip

Ya own key?

Long way around

[molten glacier]

Got inv for a +13 then dude said warriors are trash and kicked me^^ 2970 by now and que simulator is real

[vital hedge]

IT seems to be the only way to get Rio by arms from 13 and up

[slow saddle]

But y i got guildies with 3200

Mages

Dks

😅

[vital hedge]

Same, 2960, all 12, 1x 13 and Play 2h queue simulator

[slow saddle]

Vdh

Community perception is real

We need a leggo weap

For percwption

[minor gust]

nah we just need to be overtuned

but that doesnt happen for warrior

[shadow ibex]

Good thing we got nerfed twice before season started

[slow saddle]

Not for long

[shadow ibex]

I thought we were S tier

[slow saddle]

The execute nerf

[shadow ibex]

Or three booms or whatever the fuck

[minor gust]

@daring heron fault for the 10% execute nerf before patch release!

[slow saddle]

Hurt in raid ngl

100%

[shadow ibex]

Execute ended up not being important as well

[slow saddle]

But also that

[shadow ibex]

It's really good we got x2 before anyone had tier

[icy mulch]

Ok, this is the second time I've heard rumblings about legendary weapon. wtf are you ppl on about?

[slow saddle]

Cant even member nerfs

[minor gust]

yeah idk why yall want a lego after what happened in df

[slow saddle]

I just said for community perception

[minor gust]

fucking crazy

[slow saddle]

I dont want it

I remember being tuned low ad

[minor gust]

just gonna get tuned around having the lego and still be shit compared to other specs

[slow saddle]

Coz we would get it later

Looked cool though

Gobbo weps arent as cool

[twin hazel]

Is cleave good for single target dmg delves and raiding? Slayer build

[slow saddle]

No?

Its an aoe ability

[twin hazel]

does it do massive dmg tho as AOE?

[teal fossil]

Yea

[slow saddle]

No

Not as slayer

[simple ingot]

hey lads when to use blademasters vs warlords torment?

[minor gust]

more aoe vs more ST

[simple ingot]

thanks a lot

[teal fossil]

Spear+roar gang

[simple ingot]

one more question about when to choose dreadnaught or strength of arms?

[teal fossil]

More aoe vs more st

[slow saddle]

All i c play soa

Dread isnt rly more aoe

Coz then u wanna prio op over ms and we want ms

• cleave

[teal fossil]

Yeah dn is probably fake now

[mild dagger]

Got my portal done thank god, but how are y'all handling the second boss of floodgate? If i get the circle on me for the bombs, its a death sentence. Cant get positioned and cleansed before im dead

[somber geyser]

on a 10? if 1 defensive isn't keeping you healthy from the circle debuff, the healer is asleep or something

maybe narcoleptic

[teal fossil]

Press stance

[potent creek]

Dstance/SR/Dbts/health potion/shout

you can do plenty of stuff tbh

[quaint otter]

Whats dn

[somber geyser]

on ur chin

[olive nest]

deeznaughts

[quaint otter]

balls

[olive nest]

[daring heron]

tf

[minor gust]

5 big booms arms

[fresh spire]

Crit always taking strays

[olive nest]

last minute warrior nerfs surely

[icy mulch]

lol, sounds legit.

[olive nest]

warrior still above aug so theres room

[tacit crystal]

wall and leap?

[icy mulch]

Aug isn't a dps spec. It's support. So it's where it should be.

[icy mulch]

At least it's not Gripcake?

[slow saddle]

I dont think ive died to that ever

Critkale

[wide pebble]

They should add something cool to the warrior toolkit like a shout that instantly brings everyone’s kick off cd

[slow saddle]

Kek

[wide pebble]

Lol idk fam

[slow saddle]

Just give more dmg

[wide pebble]

That never works

It’s never the answer

[slow saddle]

I want zug not responsibility

Dmg is always answer

[quaint otter]

Zug.

[nova marsh]

I genuinely dont want to have to farm a lego

[slow saddle]

If we had old roar + more bleed

[nova marsh]

I'd be so pissed if they came out with a 1h legendary

(is playing enhance for the rest of the xpack lmafo)

[minor gust]

no one that went through the agony that was DF legos wants a lego

[slow saddle]

We would fuck so much in aoe, but only in m+

They way not to get nerfed fast is overperforming in m+ mass oe

Not to bursty

[icy mulch]

Its a weird spell. I've had it do pretty much nothing and get dispelled properly, and I've had it instantly kill me in half a second of it going out. Both examples are from a 12.

[icy mulch]

That was absolutely fucking cursed. Farming that stupid event was toxic.

[minor gust]

everything about getting the lego was awful

I still remember not getting it till a week after we killed Mythic Fyrakk

[tacit crystal]

no its dps

[minor gust]

I felt nothing once I finally got it

[tacit crystal]

w

[slow saddle]

My guild was slow

I got it mid tindy prog

[visual lark]

hey there question wt should generally stat aim should be?

[quaint otter]

more crit

slayer more haste

[visual lark]

i mostly play arms in m+s but have been struggling mostly in single target so thoguht my stats were off

[quaint otter]

highly likely no

whats ur ilvl?

[visual lark]

666

[minor gust]

secondary stats have very lil impact on your dmg

if your dmg is low its a rotation issue

[visual lark]

oh okay gererally i tend to go mortal strike on cd and same for opwerpower cds i just also try any over lap war braker with colosus but rest is just yolo

[quaint otter]

and what numbers u pulling?

[visual lark]

aoe- around 16m
single target- i stager around 1.3-1.9m

[quaint otter]

well

its kinda decent

but can be better

try comparing ur logs to someone big

[visual lark]

i tried that but i don't understand log system well

[quaint otter]

also can do a quick sim to check what robot presses

[visual lark]

thanks will try that

[quaint otter]

pick log go to casts and press timelines pick players nick etc

[slow saddle]

1.3-1.9 isnt bad try simmin normal st with same buffs

[quaint otter]

ye

1.9 for free cast boss is good i guess

[slow saddle]

Ofc if 1.3 is norm and 1.9 is like 1st boss motherlode...

[quaint otter]

?

[slow saddle]

Its a bit low

[quaint otter]

i do more on first boss of motherlode as prot

[slow saddle]

Also 16m on avg in aoe?_? How

[quaint otter]

he means peak burst ig

[slow saddle]

Ye. Hard way to measure. Never look at my details mid pull

[quaint otter]

i saw some guy here has details right in the center of screen

[muted tree]

is it too back if i craft a ring?

TOP simply doesnt want to give me the ring

i have been farming it since day 1 season2

[quaint otter]

consider crafting something like belt?

or run droptimizer craft sim

[muted tree]

i have the flood gate belt

[quaint otter]

a 678?

[muted tree]

nope 665

i have a 678 belt but with no goodstats

its haste mastery

not fully upgraded tho

[quaint otter]

678 > 665

[muted tree]

665 rn

lets say i cata the belt

and get it to crit haste

should i craft ring?

in order to balance my stats

[tacit crystal]

what does the robot say

[quaint otter]

run sim

[muted tree]

willdo

[quaint otter]

boots / belt might be better than ring unless u have like shitload of vers

[muted tree]

do i run on dungeon slice for M+?

[vestal gyro]

i have a question maybe a stupid one but i need to do it... when dbm say that defensive caue of big damage should we change to defensive stance we dance bettween then or jsut a cry ?

[teal fossil]

you should go into defensive stance yeah

if you think you are ognna die

[potent creek]

dead zug-zug ain't doing no smash

[vestal gyro]

ty mate

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-computing-counting-math-problems-gif-14678592

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/kotor2-kreia-star-wars-droid-gif-12716341311728341424

Die robot die

[river ridge]

Ooo A+ gif for Kriea

[shadow ibex]

Yea I kinda cooked

[fading sage]

Dead zug = no zug

[nimble yoke]

is dslice viable for us?

or just 5t patchwerk

[kind thunder]

is it possible to make slayer aoe work tho

[sacred zodiac]

you can play it but it won't be pretty

[tropic kestrel]

So, it seems that Fury is garbage at higher level keys due to the poor 5t+ damage. Arms us better, but not doing near the AOE some of these other pumper classes are. Is that just the state of Warrior DPS in M+?

[kind thunder]

warrior do big pump warrior go boom boom and steal aggro

warrior die

[sacred zodiac]

ye p much if you want to be meta in m+ you should go for a fomo reroller angle

solid in raid tho

[kind thunder]

fomo rerollin cringe, stay tru to the way of the blade

[tiny badge]

guys how essential is it to have all cds together for avatar? is it a must? or just press on availability, I try to combine ravager at the very least, and a demolish

[boreal remnant]

it's a lonely life out here

[boreal remnant]

in general stuff should kinda line up well enough if you just press it on cd

[shadow ibex]

Avatar also lasts a really long time

Should cover any window unless you use it right when a boss peaces out

[tiny badge]

cheers

[cosmic pecan]

why is a 665 footbomb championship ring out simming my cyrces circlet by 81k

and out simming champion jastor by 51k

[grand idol]

Extremely low crit or haste would be my guess.

[vagrant hull]

When simming for M+ dps, do we use the dungeon slice option? Or is there a better way other than pure single target

[shadow ibex]

footbomb is real good

[grand idol]

Hold on, is that the raid one or the motherload ring?

And if its the raid one what is the other ring tahts so good its crushing jastors?

[cosmic pecan]

Yes footbomb is the motherload ring

And it’s beating my 658 jastors and 658 circlet by 51k and 81k

[grand idol]

Make sure you actually select gems for Cyrces. The sim will just empty it out if you select nothing.

Unlike regular gems which just stay as whatever it is.

[cosmic pecan]

Well how is crushing jastors

By 51k

[potent creek]

also pin sockets/colors

[grand idol]

Couldnt tell you. id have to see the sim.

[cosmic pecan]

Let me send

[grand idol]

My shot in the dark would be you are right below one of the many haste thresholds that are usually fine to be ignored and it's skewing the sim.

[cosmic pecan]

oh my sim was set to hectic cleave

lol

[grand idol]

unfortunate.

hehe

[cosmic pecan]

lol now i feel dumb

[minor gust]

it helps if your gonna ask a sim question to post the sim...

[outer holly]

I once went an entire afternoon simming Arms while forgetting to unequip my second 2h from when swapping from fury

and wondering where the extra 5% DPS came from

[lime ruin]

looking at top logs in m+ is turbo depressing

arms always 3rd dps

[nova marsh]

Yes but remeber

at least arms got invited

*or found friends but those are fake, a myth

[void lily]

Yeh I have more troubles getting into dungeons with ret than arms. It's a nice feeling lol

[potent creek]

maybe we should doomposting more

look at boomies

[void lily]

Mhm

[nova marsh]

probally because there are about 5,000 other rets in que

[void lily]

Naw only 4800

[nova marsh]

Even so....as gallywix said

Your odds don't look so good

[void lily]

Oh I know lol. I just run my own keys on my pally.

[nova marsh]

The only way to play ret really

[void lily]

Yeh. It's fun. Just not fun fighting 8 other rets in que for a spot

[nova marsh]

Imagine being such an arms main

you desync your cooldowns on other specs on accident evrey time

[void lily]

Just means arms is your true calling

[nova marsh]

Then blizz

Rework when?

[rare kite]

13.1.5

[nova marsh]

Wow gonna be enhance for the entire world soul saga almost

[void lily]

Enhance is lame

[rare kite]

Enhance pretty fun ngl. Atleast totemic is

[void lily]

I mained it last season before I knew about how dumby thicc it was and now idk what to main lol

I just hear it's terrible in raid and isn't the most desirable in m+ atm

[nova marsh]

Sb goes harsh too now without the rng

[void lily]

The rng was terrible

I say that as I play unh..

[nova marsh]

The rng was literally if the star align you go so ridiciously hard you cream your screen

And if they didn't you were either fighting for third or fighting the tank

[void lily]

Lol that's a good way to put it.

[nova marsh]

Yall arms thou

Got a better tier thou.

[void lily]

I thought enhance tier was super good? Arms is a nice tier

[nova marsh]

No this tier enhances tier is garbage

It does basically nothing but proc dw which is neat

[void lily]

Eew

Almost as bad as havoc dh lol

[low elk]

hey on big pulls do you guys send ravager with avatar or do you wait for collateral damage to line up with it?

what is mean is, do i wait for 5~ seconds left on sweeping strikes before i send ravager to get the extra 40% dmg for the cleave to stack up with collateral?

or is it pointless to do so?

[shut raven]

am i doing smth wrong with the sim or time to change rings https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6tnEGNMYq3Ag8jtMTWL8yv

[potent creek]

dungeon slice

[shut raven]

what should i sim ?

[potent creek]

1T/5M / 5T5M that what I do

[shut raven]

oh okay ty ❤️

[potent creek]

also yes about ring

cyrce sucks

[shut raven]

oh ty tbf i just usualy check guides and they list it as bis that why i am asking gonan recheck with 1 t and 5t for 5min and see ty for the info 🙂

[potent creek]

you can tinker with time btw if you wanna get result close to your actual fight length, dslice is just poorly optimized (this was the case as long as I remember it appearing in sim options)

[shut raven]

ty mate just redid the sim on 1T and 5T still show the other ring time to move on from that rin then

[naive sage]

Crash Lightning is strong for sb

[sacred zodiac]

those are about as arbitrary as dslice king

[quasi torrent]

arbitrage

[drifting geode]

Anyone recommend what i should add to my Prismatic Sockets for my neck and ring?

[quasi torrent]

Raidbots has the answer

[drifting geode]

how do i do that? im fairly new still learning

[sacred zodiac]

top gear lets you sim gems & enchants aswell

(you probalby dont want to select all of these)

[thick kelp]

@dire hinge could you make a simming yt guide like u did for logging

[quasi torrent]

sim deez

isnt there a humanoid video sim guide already

[thick kelp]

Yeah Kelade did one 7 years ago

i think time for an update

[quasi torrent]

i will make a simc desktop client sim guide

maybe cli guide

[sacred zodiac]

crit made one ages ago but i think it was very adhoc

[quasi torrent]

I like CLIs

More things should be CLI

[fast nebula]

Looking over mythic bandit for builds. It's nice to see colossus used on a raid fight and it not be trolling. Really like demolish.

[sacred zodiac]

2 target cleave very strong on that fight ye

[quasi torrent]

And slayer exe isn't much better than col 👁️

MfE dmg bonus holly

[fast nebula]

Ima play it just for the chance to play something different and fresh

[quasi torrent]

Timers are just good for demolish bascially

• getting free stacks of CM which translates to cdr

[slow saddle]

best on RIK for arms is also demo

[quasi torrent]

richard radio

[slow saddle]

at least nr 1 has some weird build

😄

no Execute, but he has got fatality 😄

prob just coz of juggernaut // and intermission drop of ?

dno

[quasi torrent]

you should be able to kill before 2nd inter now tbh

[slow saddle]

hmm

plz

dont

be so mean to my guild

^_^

[fast nebula]

Yea was wondering why fatality was taken

First time I've seen it this expansion

[sacred zodiac]

100->40% is not a dps check it is pretty much just a timed phase

then you need to kill the boss from 40->0

or bandit is 30? idk

[fast nebula]

Ah yea saw dratnos saying something about holding dam. Make sense.

[swift crown]

YES

WoW should be a CLI

[wicked aurora]

man my damage was poop in that 14 ML

[halcyon breach]

More things should be CBT

[swift crown]

Like the trinket

[halcyon breach]

Mr. CBT

[naive sage]

🐓 🏀 🏀 🦔

[fresh spire]

[quasi torrent]

text based mmo

[strange perch]

in m+, if i use execute and it leaves me at low rage (20-30) and doesn't give me a tactician proc, do i send execute again or wait for mortal strike to come off cd?

[spiral coral]

Wouuuuldn’t you overpower to refill rage?

[strange perch]

sorry, should've specified overpower and mortal strike are on CD

[serene horizon]

I saw an arms warrior do a tech in cinderbrew in which he didnt let one "yes man" before the final boss heal

how is that possible?

[spiral coral]

I think I’m saying this right colossus execute, it becomes slam, so it’s your “filler” in execute phase instead of slam. So yeah send it and then get the rotation back going with ms/op etc

[misty sandal]

Deepwounds debuff.

[sacred zodiac]

which talent build are you running

if you have EP you play the EP rotation

if you dont you just replace slam with execute

[sacred zodiac]

deep wounds isn't the same thing as mortal wounds

[halcyon breach]

Is bomm the same as BOMM!

[sacred zodiac]

rude?

[misty sandal]

Yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry 😅

[astral latch]

Do we know of a plater mod that shows bleed in nameplates?

(colors them differently)

[peak jacinth]

If I understand your question correctly, you go into the tab "Buff Special" and the left-column that says "Special Auras", you list .. whatever you want to track on the nameplate.

I have "Rend", and "Deep Wounds." And then check the box for "only mine", since I obvs don't want to track if some other Warrior/etc put the debuff on the target.
🙂
edit: so no "mod" is needed, it's already a function of Plater. Also, in that tab are options that I assume will address your desire for different colors.

[kind thunder]

If u play Executioner precision is it needed to pair it with Finishing blows?

[astral latch]

oh nice im gonna try that! cheers

[dire hinge]

Can do 🫡

[dire hinge]

No, it’s not required, but finishing blows is strong for long execute phases.

[upbeat remnant]

guys

is this ok for m+ xd

[eager sigil]

yes?

[dim basalt]

no? yesnt? nont?

[peak jacinth]

I guess up to 10-12s, at i663 you could use damn near any build/ odd set of stats/ gear. All depends on what your real end game is.

[upbeat remnant]

idk if i don't have too low haste

[dim basalt]

We dont know either

How would we

[upbeat remnant]

its warrior server xd

[dim basalt]

We cant calculate your sims

[upbeat remnant]

you can indeed

[thick kelp]

Thats great for m+

👍

[upbeat remnant]

thanks bro

[thick kelp]

Maybe get a haste heavy neck instead of that current one but

👍

[upbeat remnant]

the only fucking problem here is that its from raid

or i could get haste finger?

craft one

[thick kelp]

Craft one sure

Haste finger good too

👍

I see 2 crafted pieces but we have 4 sparks

[atomic mountain]

what do they mean with resil in finder?

[sacred zodiac]

if you timed all 12s, you can't deplete a 12 anymore

it just stays at 12

[atomic mountain]

but why do they writ it?

[sacred zodiac]

cause they have the achievement probably

[slow saddle]

So ppl join

[sacred zodiac]

so if theres a mistake at the start they can just try again

[peak jacinth]

I think the point would be: if you fail it, you run it aga... ^^ yeah

[storm adder]

When do I replace the stupid circlet man

I want it GONE

[quaint otter]

U can do it now if u have another ring

[balmy kindle]

Go to TOP and farm +7 keys

[slow saddle]

Ok

warriors are gettin no love in keys above 11

wth

i had no issues, suddenly this week i cant get into a key 😄

whats the name of the rejection WA ?

[granite raptor]

hey guys how good is leech on arms? should i aim for leech or avcoidance and why?

[halcyon breach]

Leech because avoidance numerically is just worse, and doesn't actively negate every type of damage, but leech does help against every type of damage you take

The only case you might go avoidance > leech would be on a fight like Mugzee where practically everything is AoE where avoidance also works on almost all of it, and you don't necessarily always have uptime

[balmy kindle]

Everyone and their mother runs a magic comp

Thankfully homework 10 keys are ez

[quasi torrent]

@halcyon breach

[halcyon breach]

meow

the resolution of that is infinitely larger than I expected

[quasi torrent]

what is going on with the right shoulder

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kiss-cat-kisses-cat-kissing-cute-cat-kiss-gif-26570147

[halcyon breach]

It's angled buddy

[granite raptor]

thank you man im 9in love with u

[swift crown]

catgirl catgirl catgirl

[quasi torrent]

show full glam

[quaint otter]

we have to seize ur balls license ...

[sacred zodiac]

thank you man im 9in love with u

[swift crown]

thank you man im 9in love with u

[granite raptor]

i have fans

[quaint otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/671211728968744980/1028258145157513216/togif-1.gif

[granite raptor]

another fan pinging me

[swift crown]

No we just love Banezi so we can't let you express your love for him without us also expressing our love for him

[granite raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-dragon-ball-super-goku-goku-ultra-instinct-ui-gif-10017138207648182009

[halcyon breach]

Too busy pulling and spam dying to show sorry pal..

[halcyon breach]

meowdy pardner

[latent moss]

if i fail +20 dfc cause of 1k dmg overkill i will come and flame you

chatting

[halcyon breach]

you're welcome to

[nova marsh]

are +20s even possible?

[eager sigil]

at the end of the patch probably

[latent moss]

idk im just chatting

[rough sluice]

not with warrior

[pure brook]

yo guys is it normal that Mechano core amplifier Heroic is simming better than the Peacemaker Heroic? same ilvl track, no additional stats , just the mere trinket, but to me, the effect of the second one should be way more synergic with Arms kit, what do you think? should i trust sim and keep goin with my mechano core or swap it out for Peacemaker for M+? ( currently running Champion Kezan for raids )

[dim basalt]

Its normal yeah

Just run it

[daring silo]

What settings do people usually sim for M+ for Arms? Dungeon Slice?

[pure brook]

which one you mean? Peacemaker?

[dim basalt]

core

[pure brook]

so i should wait for Myth Peacemaker to get rid of mechanocore

[dim basalt]

Pretty much ye

[slow saddle]

St tbh

If my st increases so does my aoe i reckon

[night narwhal]

You can also just do a couple sims and then make an educated decision for m+ based on those: 1 target, 3 target, 5 target, 8 target

[pure brook]

i usually go for a 5 target patchwerk with 6 to 10 mins ( to get a trustworthy sample that excludes random procs or crits ). Doin dungeon slice is kinda weird cause there are too many unconsistent thing you can encounter during an entire key, but you're sure that most of the packs are around 5 or more Mobs

Or at least this is what i always did

[sacred zodiac]

the infamouis 6-10 minute 5 target m+ pull

[teal fossil]

average keys the night before reset

[gray herald]

the dream fury key

[slow saddle]

Half of top

[short dew]

So reluctantly, I have swapped to arms from fury, and jesus crhist, the damage increase. Btw, is it good to have Best-in-slots if my highest secondary is still mastery?

[teal fossil]

Ask the sim

[sacred zodiac]

sim it my king

[magic canopy]

sim 30 seconds 8 targets and tell your raid lead thats your dps upgrade

[tacit crystal]

cope

[nova marsh]

WELCOME TO THE BETTER WARRIOR SPEC

[weary topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-drumpf-trump-stupid-gif-6220235

[broken arrow]

Arms does the job with 1 weapon when fury needs 2.

Clearly better

[weary topaz]

Sure, but boring as all hell thusly, less fun to play, thusly less good.. this opinion is the only correct one

[nova marsh]

Enjoy your raging blow

[rare kite]

i will enjoy my raging blow way more than i enjoy jugg highrolling

[minor gust]

Well Slayer raid is ass but Colossus M+ owns

[rare kite]

that is true, tho the one time in every few keys where demolish gets cancelled makes me irrationally angry

[minor gust]

Its a skill issue as you play more and get better the less demolish cancels will happen. But yeah it can be annoying

[slow saddle]

Fact raid fury, m+ arms

[sacred zodiac]

true let's forget the 2 hardest fights in the raid

[manic stirrup]

I FW THAT HEAVY

[minor gust]

Talking about fun spongie

[slow saddle]

Chances of me gettin there. Slim to one

[sacred zodiac]

frenzy management on those two fights is horrid

[magic canopy]

lmao

manage this noober

[sacred zodiac]

like unironically arms is more fun on those two aswell

[magic canopy]

swaps targets every 30 seconds

[sacred zodiac]

explode

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-explode-gif-5592816

[sacred zodiac]

that gif is funny to have on hand

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1355425563317108887/mIXge-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[minor gust]

Just don't swap easy peasy

[magic canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1304357622866247772/Banezi_chomp.gif

[sacred zodiac]

just grief the raid

true!

[minor gust]

[rare kite]

tbf arms plays colossus on oab so that's fine

mugzee yikes

[sacred zodiac]

how do you not swap away from mugzee while in a gaol... asking for a friend...

[rare kite]

void elf out immideately

[shadow ibex]

Discord demon not knowing they were talking about feels of jugg

[manic stirrup]

dont go in

[sacred zodiac]

need it for 2nd gaol

[rare kite]

just dont go in

[sacred zodiac]

true

[minor gust]

In all seriousness tho I rather deal with constantly dropping frenzy stacks than the gamba that is Slayer arms

[shadow ibex]

Arms in raid feels so bad

[slow saddle]

The gamba makes me angry ngl

[minor gust]

Yup

[shadow ibex]

Abberus was a bad time but I think it was better than this gamba shit

[minor gust]

I love one pull getting 10 stacks of Jugg instantly then the next I get one maybe 2 and then it falls off

[rare kite]

yeah, df arms was worse in some ways but atleast it didn't have jugg gamba

[minor gust]

Slayer ruined Jugg unfortunately

Now most people hate it and want it gone

[sacred zodiac]

both minigames suck but at least you can "win" at jugg management

frenzy just goes when an add spawns that u gotta prio down

[slow saddle]

Butndoesnt feel as bad when it drops

[minor gust]

I guess, prob just a grass is greener on the other side for me as I'm progging every boss as arms and the Jugg gamba is starting to wear me down

I'm really starting to despise it more every night of prog

[rare kite]

honestly winning at juggernaut does not make up for all the losing at juggernaut

[minor gust]

Doesn't help arms is also just filled with gamba at this point it's not just Jugg maxing

[flat willow]

nah I refuse to stand for this, people hated juggernaut since legion

every version of juggernaut made the game worse by existing

die juggernaut die

[minor gust]

Got the normal Crit gamba, tier set gamba, tactician gamba, so much RNG is starting to really add up

[sacred zodiac]

i dont think anyone here is happy with juggernaut

[tacit crystal]

you didnt do every boss on heroic as arms

[quasi torrent]

this is untrue

[sacred zodiac]

point them out

we shall attack them

[tacit crystal]

wat dat mean meow man

^

[flat willow]

I was refering to this message

I wanted it gone for almost TEN YEARS

well it was gone and then came back

[minor gust]

But I did

[flat willow]

juggernaut comes and goes but it stays shit

[tacit crystal]

yeah i legit was losing my mind

[teal fossil]

The execute video gets linked here about 3 times a week

Those are the people who want jug

[minor gust]

I didn't care for it at all in DF it was whatever but TWW has made it actually cancer

[tacit crystal]

^

this all leads back to tom

[minor gust]

TOM still existing in our talents like the many other talents that just shouldn't exist

[tacit crystal]

tom or current jugg gameplay

[flat willow]

[minor gust]

I rather play with spiteful than either of those

[tacit crystal]

rhat shit has never been talented

xddddddd

[minor gust]

Gimmie the talent that actively makes my shit worse

[flat willow]

tom juggernaut spiteful or fatality

[tacit crystal]

spiteful colo with iftk

and battlelord

[minor gust]

Fatality was also made worse in TWW

Scaling with CDs is dumb af

[slow saddle]

100%

Remove jug make sd procs grest again

Great

[minor gust]

Jugg replaced with DF season 3 tier when

[slow saddle]

Yes!!!

[minor gust]

Big thunderclaps with SD procs

[rare kite]

yep, they heard that we wanted it to scale with mastery and went overboard

[grand idol]

Juggernaut should just make execute usable all fight but give it a cd.

For when being stronger in execute isnt important.

[tacit crystal]

that just makes it worse

[grand idol]

well, it would no longer give the buff

just interact with other talents.

[shadow ibex]

I think only blizzard wants jug

They think it makes execute cool ig

Only reason it's in all 3 spec trees? Does prot get jugg

Ider

I wouldn't be surprised

[grand idol]

I think so

[quasi torrent]

i am not part of the gestapo

[sacred zodiac]

point out the jugg fans

[quasi torrent]

play the raid

[slow saddle]

Well jugg if it was like 5 stacks

Would help a lot

[grand idol]

It is for fury lol

[wicked aurora]

I like Jugg

The problem is it’s balanced around the idea that you can stack it all fight

If you only gained the buff when the target was under 35% and it was much stronger I don’t think people would have so much of an issue with it

[wicked aurora]

That would also be valid, losing 14 stacks pre execute wouldn’t feel nearly as bad

[tacit crystal]

if i even lose 5 stacks before execute im mad

[slow saddle]

Same

5 stacks is way less impactfull

[slow saddle]

Problem with jugg is it makes base exe suck, and also sd procs

[wicked aurora]

Ye

[slow saddle]

Which should be insta good feel

Is now somethin we gamba hold

[wicked aurora]

I mean the answer is simple

Give us legion jugg

[shadow ibex]

It's a mechanic that only exists cuz no one at blizzard has had to interact

[slow saddle]

With rik

[shadow ibex]

If anyone played this shit they would see how awful it is

[wicked aurora]

It’s a mechanic that exists because legion jugg was good

[shadow ibex]

In 4 minutes

[wicked aurora]

And they don’t wanna give us that

[shadow ibex]

Could you imagine if mages were holding a spell in order to extend a 20 second buff buff duration for upwards of 3 minutes

That shit would last 2 weeks tops

[slow saddle]

2 days

Add in bladestorm inxst

[wicked aurora]

Oh also it exists in current form because for some reason blizzard thinks that we want to press MS in execute

[slow saddle]

Like spelø

[shadow ibex]

But no one plays war so these subtle pain points go under the radar

[wicked aurora]

Hey now

I like BS in ST

[slow saddle]

Ep.empowered ms i like

[wicked aurora]

You like EP because it hits hard

[slow saddle]

100% just want ravager

I like that ms improves during ezecute

Instead of just spammin exe

[teal fossil]

^

[slow saddle]

Mp can fack off though

[wicked aurora]

Why should the spell you hit 70% of the fight become better for the last 30% instead of you wanting to just hit the spell you sometimes get to hit but mostly just to get a buff before 35%

I mean like

I wanna execute in execute

[slow saddle]

Well remove jugg

Sd is suddenly good there as well

For bigger ms

I like spells empowering other spell

Issues come when theres to much of it

[wicked aurora]

We could use less of that

[shadow ibex]

Execute gonna do negative dmg as long as SD and jug exist for slayer

[wicked aurora]

A lot less

[flat willow]

because I don't want my exe rotation to be

[shadow ibex]

Slayer procs SD too much for exe to hit for like 5 mil

[wicked aurora]

Arms is the spec of everything buffing everything

[flat willow]

exec exec exec overpower exec exec exec

[shadow ibex]

Tactical war

Pressing everything on cd

[wicked aurora]

Like that’s the problem arms has

Way too many modifiers

[shadow ibex]

Don't check how many cleave has

Lmao

[wicked aurora]

You have to have like 7 different buffs for your mortal strike to actually hit worth something

[slow saddle]

[shadow ibex]

Like 8?

If you're a colossus you get another

From 1v5

[slow saddle]

Mortal strile hits decently nowadays

[flat willow]

maybe in season 1, I don't ever feel bad about pressing MS in s2

[shadow ibex]

It only took how fucking long

And there's no guarantee it'll last

[wicked aurora]

I miss the old arms

Just press MS on CD, actually have to think about your rage economy

It actually hit like a truck without 10 buffs

[flat willow]

you miss heroic strike, I understand

[wicked aurora]

Swing timer mattered

[wicked aurora]

You realize what I’m talking about existed after heroic strike was gone yeah?

Charge weaving was cool

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/regretting-thinking-nervous-macaco-monkey-gif-13105982953111325972

[flat willow]

when

heroic strike was removed in wod

nobody likes wod

[wicked aurora]

Heroic strike didn’t exist in legion chief

[flat willow]

and legion had 50 modifiers

focused rage also was just heroic strike when it was played

[wicked aurora]

We had the playstyle until DF reworked the rage economy

I say reworked but that’s generous

[flat willow]

I don't care much for charge weaving I'll be honest, when the boss hitbox makes sense it's not awful

[shadow ibex]

I don't like SL either

Enduring blow was just gamba

[flat willow]

but there's so many boss where you had to run 50 yards to be allowed to do it

[shadow ibex]

Get 70% uptime on cs

[wicked aurora]

Cuz arms has kinda been a mess since DF

[flat willow]

its been a mess since bfa

[shadow ibex]

I think you could say that about warrior

Period

[wicked aurora]

BFAs problem was mostly tuning and them wanting us to be a dot class

[flat willow]

that's a big problem

[shadow ibex]

Bfa problem was that they didn't care from week 1

[flat willow]

but bfa's biggest problem was blizzard forcing gcd on every spell in the game

[shadow ibex]

They were OK with letting us limp along

We weren't a dot class we weren't an anything class

[flat willow]

which cost us recklessness

[wicked aurora]

That’s different than them wanting us to be a spec that “hits hard” but needs 10 modifiers on the signature spell to hit hard in order to do so

[flat willow]

and by removing recklessness, they had to replace it with something, so they decided that colossus smash was our burst now

[wicked aurora]

That’s just a design issue

[flat willow]

and overpower replaced cs in arms' rotation

but overpower isn't cs and proccing overpower isn't fun

[shadow ibex]

They need to start from scratch

[flat willow]

again, arms had 50 modifiers since legion

and it still has a lot of modifiers

[shadow ibex]

This thing has 20 years of shit clogging it up

Still using shit from classic

[flat willow]

as long as the base spells aren't awful, having a lot of modifiers isn't a problem

[shadow ibex]

And TWW

[flat willow]

in season 1 it was because base MS did no damage

in season 2 modifiers aren't an issue because ms and cleave deal good damage baseline

now we have other issues...

juggernaut, half our talent tree being complete garbage being the big ones

[shadow ibex]

Spiteful has been around for 2+ years

Love seeing a talent with an absolutely 0% use rate since it's own inception

[fresh tide]

Talent is just cooked in general

Maybe just maybe after a solid 3+ expansions of AM being mission critical to all warrior specs it should just be baked in

[shadow ibex]

Someone really said hey I'm gonna make anger management and put it on the same node as anger management

[fresh tide]

Maybe there's another class I don't know about, but I'm pretty sure warrior is the only class that has talents shared in all 3 spec trees

[shadow ibex]

Ele and enh share primo wave I think

But it's nothing like warrior and AM SD jug bloodborne

[grand idol]

It might be the only one where they are called the same but many spec trees have effectively duplicate talents.

[naive sage]

I don’t think any class has talents as impactful as AM shared by all its specs

[visual fern]

@rare kite taking summon to brackenhide while getting levelled and not finishing evoker intro questline was fucking me

Also gave me the poggers bug of not being able to use dungeon journal on that char

[quasi torrent]

i mean ure inside a locked questline/zone

idk why it even lets u leave

[visual fern]

[shadow ibex]

Honestly AM has to go

Or CS has to get a longer tooltip that says CDR for every rage point spent

Otherwise it's just gonna rule over the talent tree and be auto locked forever

And if it were removed we can get stuff like CS on tact instead

[wicked aurora]

No

Get that outta here

[shadow ibex]

Then it needs to be where MS is in the spec tree

Cuz it's not a choice at all

[wicked aurora]

You could just literally remove CS from AM if that’s what you want

[shadow ibex]

Or not on a choice node

[wicked aurora]

For it to be on tactician

[shadow ibex]

Then AM affects a single thing

[wicked aurora]

Put avatar back on AM

[shadow ibex]

When has it been on AM for arms

[wicked aurora]

Idk just sayin you could do a little swaperooni

[shadow ibex]

I think it just has to go honestly or stop being a choice node

It's practically required for the spec

[wicked aurora]

I’ve said for like 3 expansions now that AM just needs to be a baseline warrior passive

It almost always is the best choice across all 3 specs

[shadow ibex]

The only odd man out is fury

Otherwise prot and arms have had it locked in since

It was introduced

[wicked aurora]

I can count on 3 fingers the amount of times in recent expansions where fury didn’t play AM

[shadow ibex]

Well idk about prot but arms has rocked AM since we got it

[wicked aurora]

Prot has since I started playing Warrior

[shadow ibex]

But it was also on same tier as avatar in previous expac talent trees iirc

Maybe in mop idr bfa anymore

[wicked aurora]

Avatar was a different mode than AM in BFA

[latent moss]

remove it

[wicked aurora]

Sorry but I would rather them not, I like it in all 3 specs and would probably just stop playing warrior

Prot would genuinely be unplayable

[fossil thistle]

With upcoming class tuning, does that mean we become nothing, or are still nothing?

[unborn canyon]

means we getting nothing

[rare kite]

wtf ahaha

[shadow ibex]

AM has to go

Or just baked in to every spec cooldown

Or also just rework the last class and the new versions have no need for AM

[naive sage]

We bonk therefore we are

[shadow ibex]

Reading arms talents for pre workout

https://tenor.com/view/ronnie-coleman-ronnie-coleman-dancing-ronnie-coleman-dance-weightlifting-lightweight-gif-1131390042613646100

[tiny badge]

mates I have a chance to get best in slots hero variant, is it a lot better than a crafted weap?

[dim basalt]

Its worse

[tiny badge]

might have to invest some gold to get it off someone, if its minimal then I wont invest

oh? 😄

[dim basalt]

You need a myth track bis to replace the crafted weapon

The on-use doesnt line that well for us so its worse for us than for other specs

[tiny badge]

cheers mate, saves me a lot of gold probably

[gentle frigate]

Is there a better time to hit mortal strike or just send on CD?

[shadow ibex]

No time like the present

[sleek crow]

when i simmed like every weapon in the game for my warrior the crafted one was the worse one out of all of them

[ebon storm]

at 678 the dps increase will pull through for any weapon besides crafted one as it’s 3 ilvls below. At that point, the stats are secondary. Funny because they are called secondary stats for a reason xd

[nova marsh]

Bro

I love getting called the R word because I pulled a peace keeper and didn't see trhe tank meld it

like lmafo

Idk how you guys get 3k evrey season this is pain

[flat willow]

The solution is to remove shadowmeld from the game

[minor gust]

how about no

[flat willow]

Remove night elves too while you are at it

Force them to play dwarf

[minor gust]

make friends and play with them. Pugging is a waste of everyones time

[nova marsh]

Yeah

I should've learned that from the hell that S1 was

How easy 10s were this time around really did lure me into a false sense of secruity....sigh guild hunting once again

[minor gust]

its an mmorpg game is meant to be enjoyed and played with others

[nova marsh]

Pugging has really made me realize the only time I enjoy playing wow is when I'm raiding

[minor gust]

no surprise there

[nova marsh]

But I don't wonna raid log cuz....207 score away from KSL

[minor gust]

I woulda quit long ago If I didnt have my guild and the people I play with

back between cata - SL I took very frequent breaks and quit many times between patches but even since I found the guild I play with in DF I have yet to want to quit or take a break at all

[nova marsh]

Even thou ik I'm gonna leave my current guild by Midnight I do enjoy playing with them

Pugging this xpack just making me realize I really want my own M+ static lmafo

[minor gust]

I have a M+ static this season so im finally pushing again game is very fun

[nova marsh]

How do yall find statics for keys

[halcyon breach]

I make them up

[nova marsh]

I should make 4 bots to do keys with

[magic canopy]

lmaoooo

[ebon fern]

Is this the most aoe heavy season ever for m+?

Quite a few dungeons are packed full with adds, not that i mind, i actually like these massive pulls

[shadow ibex]

reaping was p insane

i miss soloing entire reaping waves on prot war

5 target capped fury war

[rare kite]

ever no. been many years since the last time tho

[west sequoia]

hello could someone direct me to a n aoe rotation just swapped to arms

[shadow ibex]

keep cleave on cooldown

[west sequoia]

lmaoo thx!

[shadow ibex]

press MS and op while you wait for it to come off cooldown

[west sequoia]

dope EZ

WB off CD then 10 stacks for demolish?

[wheat lagoon]

Not only the io but has to be all 12s too if you didn’t already know. Probably do

[nova marsh]

Oh I'm well aware

But this is literally the best shot I've ever had at ksl

Fumbling now would be a massive regret cuz I've never hit 3k

[wheat lagoon]

I think it’s pretty easy this tier, I kinda just queued my key and yolo’d it for the most part

I thought it was just io so I timed a couple of 14s and some 13s and was Sadge when I needed the 12s so took me a minute to roll the keys to what I needed

[unborn blaze]

so warbreaker does not benefit from its own mastery application?

[tacit crystal]

i dont think due to the fact that you should cleave before

during the opener

[unborn blaze]

yea testing it right now and it's not looking like it is; seems so counter intuitive

[west sequoia]

do we ever Thunderclap as arms?