arms

[shadow ibex]

still doesnt = full uptime

i mean i would be like 60% ok if that was the case

cuz w/e careful usage

but if you track slayer strikes so knowing when u can get a proc/start anticipating a natty proc when jugg has like 2 seconds left

that's the fuckin bullshit

if they like the idea of it and so wont remove it they just gotta make it last in combat

or cut it to 3-5

[minor gust]

ultimately you are a slave to the rng which is what sucks, because being at 15 stacks of jugg is a big deal so losing that or not being able to get there feels bad

[olive nest]

anyone have a WA for sprocket that always shows your color?

kinda like the old polarity WAs

• • etc

[minor gust]

the circle around your character isnt good enough?

[hollow plover]

the liquid WA pack has one

[olive nest]

no

[hollow plover]

we were chillin with the circles

idk

once u learn the dance u learn the dance

you dont even think about ur color

it just happens

[snow flame]

just make it so it cant fall off

ez

atleast in fights like mugzee

[minor gust]

yeah either that or make it 5 stacks if they want to maintain the mini game

[olive nest]

like big wigs announces your color before the circle is on your feet, sometimes its easy to get distracted and not see the text

so i was trying to eliminate that with a WA

[hollow plover]

so basically 2nd winstreak?

clueless~1

[minor gust]

nothing feels worse than getting lucky and getting a 15 stack jugg before execute just to have it fall off right before 35% kek

[shadow ibex]

shit i even think if it consumed itself at 3/5 for mega hit could be interesting depending on how it fits in with MS every 4th global and ep

[minor gust]

such fun gameplay

[hollow plover]

im tracking jugg but i turned off the stack-counter in my weakaura

[shadow ibex]

idk i think you could do stuff with it but this 15 bullshit is ass

[minor gust]

based

[olive nest]

5 stacks jug

perma duration

ez

[shadow ibex]

but how much does it amp?

[gentle frigate]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dB1arpXTzkNFbVLj?fight=11&type=damage-done&source=35

[shadow ibex]

cuz like 5 stacks for 3%

is that really a final tier talent?

[gentle frigate]

How could I have gotten higher parse

[shadow ibex]

idk its such a stupid thing

[hollow plover]

impossible to get higher clearly

[stable fiber]

do more damage

[shadow ibex]

45% dmg buff on exe makes sense for final row of talent

[minor gust]

condense as in same % at max stacks just less total stacks

[shadow ibex]

if its 5 stacks is it still 45

[gentle frigate]

ok yikes nvm

[hollow plover]

clueless~1

zero optimization maybe

[shadow ibex]

then exe gonna get hit hard

otherwise u have 45% exe dmg from like 80% onward

[stable fiber]

nah u dont even need to optimize jugg to parse good

[shadow ibex]

thats what i mean its so cursed

[stable fiber]

i didnt do it for first 3 weeks at all and still got 99s and 100s

[gentle frigate]

Guess I dont understand but thanks for being dicks

[hollow plover]

im not saying u have to - im saying that if this isnt even attempted then there's a lot of other shit not being attempted

[hollow plover]

anytime boss

the reason we're like this is because #1347646810457636974 exists @gentle frigate

[gentle frigate]

10 4 fucker

[hollow plover]

what?

[gentle frigate]

ok thanks for literally no input

have a good night

[hollow plover]

man

go to the correct thread

[gentle frigate]

10-4 fucker

[hollow plover]

ofc we're gonna clown you

whats a 10-4 fucker

what are u on about

smh

[minor gust]

it wouldnt get nerfed hard cuz you cant even use exe till 35% only from SD procs. Shit would just get another 10% nerf slap

[olive nest]

atleast send him to the right channel without shitting on em

maintain warrior high standard discord

[shadow ibex]

ive had pulls on sproc where i got 5 SD in lust

[olive nest]

[hollow plover]

shrug

[minor gust]

ive had pulls where I get no SD procs in lust 🙂

[shadow ibex]

just feels like dancing around ways making it passive without making it passive

at that point just make it passive i hope they would do

but then its not jug

[minor gust]

condensing it to 5 stacks doesnt really make it passive. You will still obey SD conditionals it just lowers the punishment of bad rng

[rare kite]

Lots of ways to improve jugg. Lower stacks is prob the easiest, 5 stacks

[minor gust]

making it not fall off in combat would be making it passive

[rare kite]

Tho i would rather they remove it and give us s3 df set

[minor gust]

I think every arms player wants the s3 DF set to return is some way

were just not vocal enough like the havoc players were when they lost their auto throw glaive tier set

[hollow plover]

nerf jugg buff execute

shrug

[olive nest]

honestly yeah

natty execute trucking

sounds way way better

specially with sudden death existing

makes the button proc feel that much sweeter

[minor gust]

idk just remove the talent all together at that point

[hollow plover]

wouldnt go that far, its our execute phase stim

[olive nest]

like i want to get to a place where jug lights up and thats immediately highest prio button

[hollow plover]

i just dont like that it exists outside of execute phase

[olive nest]

it should feel goated to get that proc

[hollow plover]

pisses me off

bro imagine you get an execute proc, you're forced to slam otherwise and you decide to slam because you want to extend your jugg

clueless~1

fun gameplay

yippie

thanks blizzard

[olive nest]

thats what im saying

thats bad

feels turbo bad to slam 3 times in a row with an SD charge banked

good thing thats fairly rare occurance

[hollow plover]

execute isnt even on the priority list outside of the special conditions because you're supposed to just slam instead

nice button blizz

[minor gust]

Slayer and 2 stacks of SD ruined jugg

[boreal hawk]

one question as a noob arms (just picked up the spec, coming from fury lol) do u use execute with SS on packs?

[hollow plover]

you talkin colossus arms?

[boreal hawk]

ye

[minor gust]

gonna need more context than that

[hollow plover]

you only press execute as a filler over slam

in m+

[boreal hawk]

but if the packs are low u can execute with ss or is not worth

if u can do ofc

[hollow plover]

i repeat

its a filler thats slightly better than slam

if you can mortal strike

do that

[boreal hawk]

ok

ty

[minor gust]

SS doesnt change any prios

[hollow plover]

not true

[minor gust]

very true

[hollow plover]

you cant catch me overpowering over cleave on 2 targets no SS up

but with SS you sure can

[minor gust]

you do you boo

wait I prob should ask do you know what the tier set does mr @hollow plover

[stable fiber]

you slam over cleave on 2 targets

unless collat

ngl

[minor gust]

were talkin about M+ build

[stable fiber]

that button does like no damage with no modifiers

yeah

even then

lol

[minor gust]

in which case you would cleave over slam in 2t

[hollow plover]

cognitive dissonance

[shadow ibex]

just got 2 SD procs insta on pull so bladestorm went on cooldown for 1.5 seconds when i used the first

SD is so cool

[minor gust]

[hollow plover]

i love SD

fun

lottery

[minor gust]

we love gamba here in the arms channel

[stable fiber]

yo colossus owns on stix

(i havent killed the boss yet)

[hollow plover]

i still need tips for mythic OAB

[hollow plover]

clueless~1

[stable fiber]

playing the spec wrong

no flame

on this boss

[hollow plover]

whats the fight duration on that

also ur group kinda sucks

on our stix kill half the group had like 3mil

[stable fiber]

not long

[hollow plover]

calling yourself juggmaxxing in details

on stix

is kinda cringe

dont u think

call yourself

cmightmaxxing

or smth

[stable fiber]

i been called juggmaxxing

our furthest pull im doing 3.8m at 20% then wipe

spec is just rng as shit i think

[hollow plover]

btw

do you prepare anything when u go into fights the first time

or do u wing it

[stable fiber]

wing it usually

[hollow plover]

you might just be a fuckin talent and a half

[stable fiber]

i change gear and talents for the fight as we prog

[hollow plover]

if u wing it

when i first see a fight unprepared and we kill it early i end up with purple parses max

I need to prepare to get shit done

i planned out every boss fight in nerubar palace and ended up a decent rank thanks to it

if i didnt - man

i'd be hella trash

[stable fiber]

i just remember when to use cds

i struggled with cauldron

using avatar 10 seconds early

every time

[hollow plover]

Its not that simple, different anger management based bladestorm timings depending on what mechanics you get on you (on some fights at least)

Me personally, i use my cs hella inefficiently i feel

I know the prio list

But like

Eh

Idk i farm arms 98s np with prep

But without prep im screwed

[stable fiber]

i just send that shit instantly regardless of what mechanic i get so it still lines up

[shadow ibex]

sproc at 24% and started exe at max jug

best pull so far 10%

dies tn for sure

[molten marsh]

wheeeww we all thought it was over time but the brew's tod clutched it

[rare kite]

Gonna die the pull you drop stacks at 36%

[molten marsh]

mutou thats evil

[minor gust]

I wish you luck we played like shit and didnt kill last night multiple sub 5% wipes because people are really bad and get hit by orbs

slowest fucking things to dodge ever and ppl still get hit

[rare kite]

This spec is evil. Makes me so angry

[shadow ibex]

last pull

wish luck

[molten marsh]

juggernaut ruins raid for me for sure

but m+ as arms is heeelllaa fun

[rare kite]

Demolish getting cancelled in m+... rarely happens but when it does

[molten marsh]

ok that is big true

REALLY wish that once you started that cast the 2nd/3rd hits had more range

[shadow ibex]

they really decided to stick to their guns

with it

for better or worse

honestly i rather get something instead of arterial bleed

bleeds are so lame

[smoky kayak]

our first kill ate 8 orbs 💀 only tank, 1 dps (who saved himself but killed the raid by immuning orbs), and a healer were alive for the last 40s or so

[minor gust]

idk how you get hit by orbs its crazy aint shit happening in that last phase

[smoky kayak]

a couple of them have an excuse, since people were panic dropping amz/darkness during, which hurt more than it helped

[robust cypress]

is arms suppose to feel rage flooded during execute?

[smoky kayak]

but yeah it's pretty easy to just... not eat orbs

[minor gust]

is what it is now gotta wait till sunday to kill the boss. Another broodtwister situation of us taking longer to kill a boss than we should have

[minor gust]

I memba

[regal dragon]

i dont even know what trinket to go, I just got Pacemaker hero track, but Viscera sims higher

[nova marsh]

Oof

[regal dragon]

nvm i got it fixxed

maxxed out Pacemaker beats it i clicked the wrong one lmaooo

[rich ridge]

@daring heron when mythic OAB video?

[daring heron]

will prolly make it tonight and upload tomorrow

[slow saddle]

hmm at 13

i feel like ppl start gettin rly meta hungry

[quaint otter]

[slow saddle]

haha made me laugh

[quaint otter]

Why they shouldn't tho

[slow saddle]

i dont disagree at all

it was just so "easy" gettin into 11-12s

[sacred zodiac]

Bladestorm thane or bladestorm colossus

[daring heron]

[sacred zodiac]

Explode

[sacred zodiac]

What ilvl are u

[daring heron]

for oab? was 668.8 or something

now 670.something

i died in lust last phase though so was bad log but video will still be useful

[sacred zodiac]

Go next

[fresh spire]

Holy rare meme

I need to make more meme when 12.0 when the 3 changes come that contradict themselves again

[minor gust]

we love this

more warbringer please

[fresh spire]

Don't nerf my pvp talent:(

[minor gust]

they removed it this patch remember

they got tired of getting it confused with warbreaker

[narrow flax]

i have been running warlords instead of blademasters, is blademasters the go to now, or just for aoe dungeons?

kinda missed that blue post n stuff

[thick kelp]

Pick your poison

[tacit crystal]

@swift crown do you play dmeo

[swift crown]

Is that like DMCA

[tacit crystal]

demo

wl

[swift crown]

Yes

[tacit crystal]

i was looking at a demo log and this guy was forcing tyrant at 9 imps

[swift crown]

Imp count doesn't really matter

Not nearly as much as just having your big demons in

[tacit crystal]

ah

[swift crown]

More imps is nice

[tacit crystal]

bc the wowhead guide says to greed tyrant at last second of hounds

[swift crown]

But Imps are not your Tyrant condition

[tacit crystal]

and the guy cast tyrant 9s after hounds

not 15

[swift crown]

That's fine if you have Imps

Especially after first Tyrant youre also generally going into the next setup with some extra juice

But yea Imps are

kinda secondary result for Tyrant

[tacit crystal]

also you delay 2nd felguard for hounds to sync with tyrant

?

[swift crown]

Everything Demo syncs naturally

kinda

[tacit crystal]

i tried it in a 2 and it felt so aids

[swift crown]

20s Dogs syncs with 60s Tyrant, 30s Vilefiend syncs with 60s Tyrant, GFG syncs with Tyrant

you kinda just have to

slam Dogs on CD

that's like the most important thing atm

[tacit crystal]

cds on cd

[swift crown]

Cause 4pc means a lot of your power is in Dogs

[tacit crystal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WhXr2DNCVxZcGYBP?fight=37&type=casts&translate=true&source=1&view=timeline

[swift crown]

Honestly at this point

it doesnt matter that much

going into Tyrant with Shards up means you get more Greater Dreadstalker bites

[tacit crystal]

i think this guy delayed 3rd set of dogs so he delayed burst

but i see

how would you play keys

[swift crown]

That's cause

Locken is weird

[wicked fern]

Thanks for the suggestion, it's incredible.
I have my best friend, a member of our guild roster who really has problems with his war arms. In dungeons, he's fine, no problem. On the other hand, in RAID he parse at about 30% which is really not good for a character ilvl 667. So he would need assistance especially on his rage management before the execution phase. Maybe a little analysis of a warcraft logs to understand and pinpoint the error he's making. We've inspected: Talents, stuff, enchantments, gems, embellishments, food, everything ancillary to gameplay. But we can't go any further because of our lack of knowledge of class and specialization. How can I go about getting this help from you, please?

[swift crown]

you have to hold a bit anyway cause Intermission happens right around 2 mins

[tacit crystal]

hope you get packs that live 45 seconds or

[thick kelp]

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

[tacit crystal]

w

[swift crown]

Yo Walhe dont hate

[thick kelp]

I dont hate

[tacit crystal]

frappe mortelle on cd

thoughts

today during sprocket prog i was gearing my warlock and sat

[thick kelp]

Afficher le lien de son journal de bord pour un combat spécifique #1347646810457636974 et le taguer @dire hinge

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

[flat willow]

Le journal de bord

[tacit crystal]

do you think i should just play destro until i get into +12s

[swift crown]

Nononono

Demo is the superior lowkey spec

it's just also the superior highkey spec rn

[tacit crystal]

there is no way

[swift crown]

Yes way

[tacit crystal]

it feels so aids to desync

[flat willow]

Is it the superior high key spec

[swift crown]

Yes

Absolutely

Maybe not in Cinderbrew

[tacit crystal]

also i got told

[swift crown]

but in general

yes 100%

[tacit crystal]

pressing imps kinda does 0 damage

[thick kelp]

being gio kinda does 0 damage

[swift crown]

Implosion you mean?

[tacit crystal]

yeah

[tacit crystal]

fuck you bud

[thick kelp]

woah bud

[swift crown]

Implosion is kinda weak atm compared to the rest of the kit (mostly 4p pushing more HoGs rather than Imploding)

[tacit crystal]

sorry gala got on the keyboard

[thick kelp]

gala57

giostronk

bismillah

[tacit crystal]

revvez57

[thick kelp]

no

[tacit crystal]

walhe what other alts have you been playing

[swift crown]

Demo owns tho

[thick kelp]

uhdk survi enha sp

[tacit crystal]

ill have to practice more in keys but it felt bad

maybe bc i only hit dummy for 5 minutes

i do not like the current enhance build

[thick kelp]

totemic goated in keys

[swift crown]

Demo this season is weird cause 4p is so dominant

especially in AoE

[thick kelp]

no asce build very gooder

[tacit crystal]

spamming totemic projection

is aids

[thick kelp]

you dont even spam it

cuz your totem is just kind athere to enable you

itself it does little damage

[swift crown]

Like, it's correct in really big pulls to just send Tyrant giga early and use your Cores to do more HoGs inside your 4p window @tacit crystal

[thick kelp]

so its position is of little matter

[quaint otter]

U dont need

[swift crown]

stuff like that

[tacit crystal]

ig i also might have played a wrong build

[quaint otter]

Press totem once more to move

Isnt on gcd

[flat willow]

Isnt it out of gcd, couldnt you macro it to your lava lash

[tacit crystal]

ic

[thick kelp]

yeah

[flat willow]

Dont know I dont play shaman

[thick kelp]

I have it macrod to my lava lash

[tacit crystal]

oh shit

i was taking the global to press it lol

[quaint otter]

Shiiiiieeet

[tacit crystal]

just doing @player?

[quaint otter]

Massive skill issue

Can do without it iirc

[tacit crystal]

ill be a warlock lord soon

[thick kelp]

y

[tacit crystal]

but i need all 13s

on my uh

[flat willow]

I'll be a warlock lord in mop with metamorphosis

Meta my beloved

[tacit crystal]

i spent like 90 minutes trying to do workshop

that did not go well

[grand lark]

Hi everyone, do you know if there is an addon that can help me with rotation?? Ty

[tacit crystal]

hekili

[thick kelp]

Turn on monitor

[dim basalt]

[minor gust]

frappe mortelle

[simple wren]

im not the best player but not the worst either and just came here to say that it feels so bad when you do a key with boomie+uhdk 😦

there, now i've vented

[minor gust]

arms is good uhdk is just broken rn and will hopefully be shot at some point

[simple wren]

looks like blizzard abandons balancing as usual a bit into the season

not having any hopes

[latent moss]

gio57 = galastronk57

[quasi torrent]

schizophrenia

[thick kelp]

Never seen archi and revvez in the same raid...

[tacit crystal]

or gio

[thick kelp]

Never seen warrior dev but always see Archi....

[swift crown]

Gio57 is the warrior dev

yet he spends time playing Demo

[boreal quartz]

Unfortunately the dev is Galastronk

[halcyon breach]

Ballsophrenia

[latent moss]

never seen galastronk and gio in the same raid

...

[low elk]

why does trashmaster's (full vers) sim higher than if i were to catalyst it (haste+crit)

i have a macro changing my title but i still hate having to press it every login

[thick kelp]

cuz u probably have

very little versa

and u are dring into haste and crit

[low elk]

i guess so

[latent moss]

could prolly make a wa that executes the macro whenever u login

trigger -> event -> prolly something like player login or idk

then do custom code

[low elk]

is that a real event?

[latent moss]

im not sure

but i assume there is something

should be exposed by the api

[spiral coral]

Vers has been doing very well for me in sims and I haven’t questioned it

[thick kelp]

copy paste the WA that turns off addon profiling

and change it to change title

[low elk]

doesnt mastery give more raw % damage than vers does? how come vers wins sims

[latent moss]

ye

[swift crown]

nah

changing title requires a hardware event

This function is protected, and may only be called in response to hardware event.

It has been protected since patch 3.3.

[swift crown]

PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD is an event but yea

doesnt work

for title

cause OnEvent handlers can't call the SetTitle API function

[thick kelp]

gg

[latent moss]

gg

L blizz

[unique cypress]

What % crit should we be sitting at or around as arms?

[bright ginkgo]

Anything less than 62% is horrible

That was a horrible joke, follow your sims! They are your best friend

I think my warr is at 36%

[wraith crag]

Dumb question, but how does cleave interact with SS? Does the damage itself get impacted? Or is it just for building collat stacks?

[slow saddle]

The slam that follows a cleave if talented will sweep

[wraith crag]

Ah

Second questions… single target slayer in execute.. is rotation outside of cd just execute and op and hit MS to refresh rend and dw? I’ve seen some say to do 2x execute, op, MS?

[spiral coral]

Idk I thought same, but I’m high on mastery, trying to up my haste, but it’s telling me vers will do better

[dim basalt]

MS if 2x EP > Op with opp proc > execute

[spiral coral]

This is for multiple items too, cloak, neck, ring etc not a one off

But w/e

[wraith crag]

Ty

[spiral coral]

Cleave go brrrr

[dim basalt]

So you will end up using MS with at least 1x MP, sometimes 2 if you proc after MS and the first execute

[wraith crag]

Gotchya but the main decider on using MS is whether I have 2 EP stacks

[dim basalt]

yup

You basically never press MS without 2 EP

[wraith crag]

Thanks

Alright another one… m+ build… after the opener, am I supposed to hold that first big collateral damage cleave for my next ravager+wb to come back up?

[dim basalt]

After the opener, no

Usually yes if you dont have to wait too long

If you delay your cds a bit and just start stacking CD on pull you can combine them tho

Depending on what tank youre playing with you can start hitting mobs while tank is collecting / positioning

[wraith crag]

Gotcchya. Yeah it’s been kind of pointless when the tank isn’t pulling quick enough

[dim basalt]

I pretty much always delay a bit

But its prob not a gain / loss doing if you can pop cds right away

If you wanna go hard on mental math you can figure out if its worth getting cds back up earlier and then decide based on that

[wraith crag]

Just wanna smash no maths

Thanks again

[dim basalt]

yw

[faint sparrow]

Hey hey! For those with Best in Slots mace, do you send the on use effect on cooldown? Or at specific times?

[zenith warren]

Is it only me or sometimes ravager is ready and wont activate immediately? I need to send few inputs, not sure if it's weakaura not tracking cd accurately or smh else

[slow saddle]

Which m+ week isnit?

Cdr reduction?

[naive breach]

walhe

[latent moss]

cdr reduction affix

[zenith warren]

yeah, maybe this

[valid leaf]

in M+ when its the first pull and youre going in with 0 CM stacks...is it worth to hold until 10 before you blow warbreaker into demo, or should you just use the first one without many stacks and hope to roll into each pull after with stacks?

[mint patio]

was wondering this myself, thought it was a WA problem. glad its not just me lol

[smoky kayak]

it is a WA problem - the CDR affix shouldn't negatively affect Ravager, but it may be that your WeakAura isn't properly adjusting for the extra CDR

[winged wren]

hi guys, do u have a nice wa which reminds me for my bleed?

[naive breach]

should get 10 stacks fast unless pack dies in a second

[strange perch]

there's times in mythic+ where i feel a little rage starved and have to charge weave. is this normal?

[gray knoll]

If you are casting execute without rage refund talent, then yes. But with standard collosus build with no EP, you shouldn't be casting execute much at all. If you're focusing on Mortal strike/cleave/overpower, no you should rarely be rage starved

[olive nest]

I wonder how well it would work to take Blademasters for more aoe and then pair it with FB/EP to try and make up some boss damage

[gentle frigate]

Is hekili worth it for arms?

I have seen some people use it

[slow saddle]

No

[gentle frigate]

I didnt think so either

[slow saddle]

To proc based

[gentle frigate]

Ok another question I have is when to presxs mortal strike or overpower

[slow saddle]

Check wowhead

Theres a full guidw

[gentle frigate]

sorry kinda wanted spark notes lol

[slow saddle]

It has that

[balmy wagon]

I'm looking at streamers doing AOE rotations and they used mortal strike a lot in AOE before overpower, even though every rotation guide I find says you use overpower on cooldown after cleave. Am i missing something?

[slow saddle]

Cdr for demo

[balmy wagon]

yeah since you get 2 procs with sweep

but they should add that to rotation guides lol

[slow saddle]

Meh dno if its wortg

Or might be factually wrong

Just coz u stream doesnt mean perfect rotation

[teal fossil]

i mean

its going to get you a 70 parse

its never going to get you a 90 parse

it works fine

[smoky kayak]

I feel like it probably would

depending on the fight anyway, the only downside of rotational helpers like Hekili is that they can't really predict mechanics, so they don't know if you wanna save CDs because adds or downtime is coming

[teal fossil]

yeah

and i think thats the difference

archi you know im the hekili expert here

i cant play the game without it

i tried playing fellowship during the beta

i couldnt play the game AT ALL

cuz no hekili

[smoky kayak]

I didn't play it

[teal fossil]

but you know what i mean

its a wow like game but without hekili

it was so over for me

but yeah back on topic, figuring out how to hold cds and such is pretty important

[slow saddle]

Goes into lorrgs adds to notw

Problem solved by smarter ppl

[smoky kayak]

Yeah the lorrgs timer thing can be really nice

I don't use it myself, but its great for less familiar players

[slow saddle]

Nice on rik, helps me hold cds

[teal fossil]

yeah the lorrgs+hekili combo goes hard

[smoky kayak]

I think that, like most things, it really depends on how you use it - if you just try to follow it blindly, yeah you're probably going to struggle, but if you use it in conjunction with a little learning, it can take you pretty far

[slow saddle]

True ifnu use it but ubderstand that if op proc u click 9/10

[lunar remnant]

Heklil on warrior is just too fast imo

That or my add can’t fixate on it - I actually do way more dps without it

[thorny sable]

can you lorrgs to show in game or just to analyze fights etc? sorry never heard of it before

[smoky kayak]

Lorrgs creates visual timelines of cooldown usage in top parses, you can then import those timings as in-game reminders

[thorny sable]

Is there an add-on to import them to?

[smoky kayak]

Mdt

[latent moss]

idk arms is just way too proc based i feel

hekili just adds extra cognitive load imo

[smoky kayak]

There’s a Wowhead article explaining it

[thorny sable]

ok thank you

[spiral coral]

What class is good for hekili lmao

[slow saddle]

Range?

[olive nest]

Wonder if anybody created a timeline WA for this similar to the “boss ability timeline” wa. Would be kinda neat

I guess it’s kinda redundant since you already track your abilities individually on a wa suite or hotbar

[quasi torrent]

bro has not heard of kaze mrt

[teal fossil]

you can 70-80 parse on every class with hekili

so the answer is every class

and no class

depends on who you ask

[jolly lintel]

Silly question, If Im just farming delves to get a trinket, am i just endlessly running 8's?

[nova marsh]

You're doing evrey bountiful you have keys for

But yes no point going higher then 8s for gear, only for crests

[honest matrix]

dum question but is hekili worth geting for arms?

[wintry arch]

The single target rotation isn’t complicated or static enough I wouldn’t think. There’s resets and procs every 3rd global or so.

Definitely not in aoe

In st you’re kinda just reacting to opportunist and Ms resets

[gray herald]

how does hekili react to like slayer strike and opportunist procs

[wintry arch]

Yeah I’m not sure I’ve never used it

But if it updates then you’re just waiting for it rather than your own brain so idk

[teal fossil]

then you react

and if you miss 1 gcd of reaction its not a big deal

[void bay]

hekili always feels behind a decent WA to me

[south merlin]

Weird question

Usually I play fury but been trying arms a bit, when I have colat damage stacks I feel sometimes it disappear immediately is there a spell am pressing that consumes it or what

[rare kite]

cleave consumes it ofcourse, are you pressing cleave as SS fades(like mid fade) then cleave will consume it

[south merlin]

So when SS fades even if more than 3 targets I stop cleave to maintain my stacks?

[rare kite]

whether you spend those immideately or not depends on alot of factors

[south merlin]

If my CDs are not ready and the pack will not die soon and holding it won't allign with my CDs for next pack then I assume I should consume it right so I get it ready maybe for next pack with CDs

[sleek crow]

Why are more people playing fury than arms in m+ when arms is just blatantly better

Only thing I can think of is that fury is tankier

[south merlin]

Personally mater of habit and dont want to be rusty in raid. But recently been changing according to dungeon

Like I would never consider arms in TOP

cause not really big pulls there so target cap is not an issue

[rare kite]

yeahh. you get used to when you should hold or not when doing enough dungeons, sometimes a tank can ruin it by pulling slow etc which sucks. tho that is the same with colossal might stacks

[rare kite]

the answer is simple. fury is more fun for most people. even when arms is blatantly better, fury is usually more popular

[south merlin]

Fury play-style is better, how fast it is and so

The only thing am really suffering with is even with rings and some gear like waist and boots am still suffering with stats
My mastery is 30% while CS would be like 22%

I will recraft weapon to arms stats when I get a good mythic weapon for fury I guess

[rich ridge]

What’s your guys opener for mythic OAB when playing colossus?

[wide pebble]

I just started seriously playing arms in raid last week. Feels more simple than fury, kinda more fun too. It’s nice not having to sweat and get arthritis to do real boss damage

My favorite parts about raid fury were gutted. I liked the benefits of titanic rage/OF into bladestorm for adds and getting the empowered RB and BT for more prio

[misty bridge]

normal opener but you save SS for when the 3 adds come up

[rich ridge]

Alright

[coarse stratus]

Does anyone feel like we take an insane amount of magic damage. I never felt so squishy in a m+ season

[dire hinge]

i haven't really felt it tbh

Spell Reflect can be used even if you're not targeted, it's up quite frequently

[coarse stratus]

thats the only time I feel good is when its up, im 2960 and the aoe in these 13s seem to hit so hard while the rest of the group is just chillin

[dire hinge]

i think i smell a new goal 👀

[rare blade]

the lie detector determined that was a lie

[teal fossil]

Clearly you are better

Proud of you

[thick kelp]

Woah it works exactly for what is coded for

simple ST and 2T

[rare blade]

Just saying you are saying its not good enough to let you parse when that's not totally true lol

[teal fossil]

Don’t worry man

I literally cannot play this game without hekili

[rare blade]

I agree with the above about not fully relying on it but I leave it on even when I choose to not follow it directly

[teal fossil]

I have a friend who’s in US top 10 guild that does what you do

With hekili

[rare blade]

Yeah I don't see the problem with it, if you are learning a new class/spec or something it's pretty useful to get you into the flow of things and then you can decide if you want to keep it once you have learned or not.

[teal fossil]

Yea

Once I had to hop on a friends account for his weekly vault

[dim basalt]

Idk you can parse 95 in heroic without your screen turned on ngl

[teal fossil]

I didn’t know the spec at all

Parsed a 70

[dire hinge]

ngl i use it on my bear druid alt and i've never learned how to play that spec.
Just macro iron fur into every single one of your builders and turn your screen off

[teal fossil]

For first 3 mythic

[rare blade]

valid

I have only done first 2 mythic so far but both those are close to 90 as well

[dim basalt]

Parsing in Mythic is so much harder

Like I can feel like I did horrible on heroic and it will be a 98

And a good one on mythic can only be a 93

[teal fossil]

Ye

[teal fossil]

When I say 70 I meant mythic btw

[dim basalt]

But our spec is also dead, even more so on mythic

[teal fossil]

Not heroic

Like everyone else said heroic piss easy

[rare blade]

I got 87 and 85 on mythic as well with it, so not bad regardless

[dim basalt]

I first timed Fury on Bandit without knowing what I'm doing and it was a 95 or so

Like lmao

Heroic ofc

But I just can't get away from Arms, there's never a reason good enough to actually swap

[rare blade]

I like fury better for stix

but other than that I feel like arms is just better or close enough to never switch

[dim basalt]

I go full ST on Stix

No need to do pointless padding

[rare blade]

I would love to do that but my raid team doesn't kill bomb crabs fast enough if I don't go and pull them all off the trash heaps

[wide pebble]

Anyone thinking of using first dinar on Jastor instead of BIS? BIS is only showing a slight upgrade for me

Assuming they’re actually happening

[slow saddle]

Yes

[ripe igloo]

Is it accurate that after 25-26% crit, you want to prioritize getting haste close to 30%?

[quaint otter]

You want to prioritize the highest ilvl u can get

And then sim if u have variance gear

[slow saddle]

Yup

[slow saddle]

If i dont get hc in vault

Jastor

[wide pebble]

Yeah, even still I might to do it for more ilvl gain going from 658 Cyrce to it. I think now that we have more stats the BIS active effect may not be weighted as highly

[slow saddle]

But just a ring... robot will decide

[viral locust]

Robot decided already like 35k for bis or 65k for ring, that ring too strong

[broken arrow]

Ladies and gentlemen, I beat my ret friend in Priory 10 😎

[naive breach]

[potent creek]

[rich ridge]

How many dinars do we get?

[strange perch]

is there a minimum amount of rage we'd wanna have before pressing slam in st? im guessing enough to be able to mortal strike after?

[tacit crystal]

i think you just press

unless swingtimer is legit about to go off

and you would have to get a lot of resets to not be able to press ms after slam

[sage crater]

Could someone help me out? I can't find the ST rotation for colossus

[dim basalt]

Its right there on wowhead

Just need to select Colossus

[tacit crystal]

ms op slam

[minor gust]

Bing bang bonk

[drifting geode]

i want to sim my arms war for m+ shall i set it to this?

[latent moss]

ye thats the spec

[hexed garden]

as arms, do i ever use slam?

[drifting geode]

yes its good for a filler

[hexed garden]

not for aoe tho right?

aoe i should use cleave?

slam would be for single target i imagine

[tacit crystal]

i mean you might have to press slam when you have nothing else

or if you decide to not press ms to save mp stacks for a big collat

[hexed garden]

i see

[quaint karma]

man i wanna push as arms warrior but i feel like no grps would want me

[minor gust]

if your only way of pushing is pugging I wouldnt even bother

[tacit crystal]

did your group explode

[minor gust]

nope

[quaint karma]

like getting to 3k

[tacit crystal]

3k is doable pugging

[minor gust]

we doin some more 15s tonight Gio so we praydge for success

[drifting geode]

im only pugging and at 2.7k atm

[tacit crystal]

my group hasnt been doing much bc we just focus raid so surely we make progress tonight

[minor gust]

dont remind me of raid im still pissed off we didnt kill sprocket on wednesday

[drifting geode]

Yeah its pretty much like playing Decline simulator lol

[tacit crystal]

they got it to like 60%?

i just ran around on my warlock gearing it

looking at logs

[minor gust]

we had multiple sub 10% wipes due to bad

[tacit crystal]

lol

dunno if im going to be in bc they wanted 9 ranged and we have like 22

but they put in 10 in case one died

[mild hound]

I wish they’d let BS be good in aoe again 😒

Ravager stinks

No spin, no win

[tacit crystal]

demo bladestorm does damage

[minor gust]

slayer warriors are just felguards confirmed

[tacit crystal]

except we do 0 damage

[mild hound]

Lol

[minor gust]

huh dats it?

[rich ridge]

I think blizz forgot about us

[tacit crystal]

w nerf

[minor gust]

arms is fine poor fury tho not even an OF buff or something

[dire hinge]

who needs nerfs if they just buff everyone else

[icy mulch]

How the fuck did Warrior get nothing? Ret buffs, a 5% nerf to unholy, Disc Priest neutered, balance druid seems to be the only one that actually got some proper adjustments.

[minor gust]

because is arms is fine poor one out for fury tho

[tacit crystal]

the nerf to uh legit changes nothing lol

[icy mulch]

I figure they would do something for our AoE abilities. Ravager/Bladestorm, Roar, Odyn's Fury, etc.

[tacit crystal]

and no one plays that ret spec

so

[icy mulch]

I know. It's fucking dumb

[tacit crystal]

no w blizzard

cant nerf unholy yet

i need more io

[minor gust]

Gio slave to the meta

[severe crag]

It's wild that they just haven't touched warrior hardly at all this season.

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-whatever-eye-roll-gif-14086660

[minor gust]

Galastrong woulda stayed fury

[tacit crystal]

playing fotm is fun

[severe crag]

Definitely needed that uh nerf. My 652 UH alt does more large scale aoe than my 668 arms warrior lol. Almost 30 million burst in the first pull of CB. My arms is lucky to hit around 22.

[minor gust]

the UH nerf doesnt really do anything sooooo

[severe crag]

I mean it's a semi sizeable nerf to the thing that's making them absurd in large aoe.

[tacit crystal]

on paper yes

but it does nothing

its proc based

[severe crag]

They're still gonna blast

[tacit crystal]

if you get it at the start of a pack you will still do more than anyone else

so

0 change

[severe crag]

Someone's gotta do the most. At least now it won't be 15 million more dps than anyone else in a large pull. I like seeing the smaller nerfs. If it's still overperforming then hit em again. I'm glad they didn't nerf it by 50+% and kill the class for those having fun with it.

[hollow wave]

They could increase Rend damage by 5%, just to please us. No change is brutal

[tacit crystal]

itll only be 14.8m

[serene thicket]

any resource to see a good baseline overall dps per mythic

[severe crag]

Idk i agree that bigger buffs for weak classes coupled with smaller nerfs for over performers is the correct philosophy. I agree no changes are brutal af. I'm really hoping they're ignoring us for a rework at some point soon.

[tacit crystal]

like it did nothing

[hollow wave]

Don't think we need a rework

[tacit crystal]

we most definitely do

[errant goblet]

^

[severe crag]

I think we do too.

[muted rune]

are you always trying to get 2 stacks of overpower before ms/cleave or you just sending ms/cleave higher

[minor gust]

13.3 rework already confirmed

[severe crag]

Let the cats do the bleeds. Give arms the biggest juiciest hits in the game.

[quaint otter]

Sub and ww got their reworks and it didnt go well

[dire hinge]

in AoE you want to just send Cleave/MS when they're available, with OP as filler. Your goal is to build Collossal Might stacks asap.

[hollow wave]

Don't know about sub, but how ww rework gone bad?

[muted rune]

ty!

[quaint otter]

no aoe burst till this season?

[serene thicket]

do we still sweeping strieks in ST for the collateral damage cleave?

[dire hinge]

Sweeping Strikes only works if there's a second target

[quaint otter]

and yet they had to rework some talents again

[serene thicket]

welp

just re read thank you hrothmar

[flat willow]

unholy dodged those nerfs

good job unholy

[minor gust]

indeed they did

[dire hinge]

all good! it's an understandable thought, luckily no we dont have to game that 🎉

[quaint otter]

[flat willow]

kinda salty about mage buffs tho, for some reason

I hate wizards

[minor gust]

everyone hates the wizards just how it is

[tacit crystal]

w arcane buffs

[rapid bronze]

I think the warrior dev is like a visiting fellow at an institute who just works there for three months then fucks off to discover themselves somewhere

[quaint otter]

there is no such thing

as warrior dev

its being recycled same things over and over 3 expansions now

[fresh spire]

warrior dev is fixing other classes (buffing aug)

they just wants to buff everything else more now so he has another reason to buff mortal strike 60%+ again in the next major update

[rancid sluice]

Does arms need that many changes? We're pretty solid in m+/raid

[fresh spire]

we're middle ground so its -fine-

But more they buff others, more we will slowly fall down

[rancid sluice]

Warlocks got the juice so I could see us dropping

[fresh spire]

warlock was already top on overall

[rancid sluice]

Idk what they were smoking with some of these buffs

[flat willow]

warlocks about to own us, yeah

[hexed snow]

Rather nothing than a nerf right guys

[gusty nymph]

uh... yes, but no...

[misty sandal]

How big are the buffs??

[glad kraken]

massive

[bright zephyr]

is it ever worth to drop cyrce? sims says I have a better one, but feels wrong with how much stats it gives overall

[rare kite]

for arms yeah. for fury not found anything that replaces it

[thick hamlet]

you fellas were expecting buffs? come on

arms is strong in M+, and like mid in mythic raid

i'd count our blessings, horses, eggs, and chickens that there's no nerfs

[cloud dawn]

We absolutely need a rework

[peak aspen]

with how set-upy current colossus arms is at least buff bleed damage so you don't feel as powerless when your stuff doesnt crit

[stable fiber]

i just dont like how the execute button works outside of execute

i think this spec owns

[rare kite]

how much of that is because of juggernaut tho?

[nova marsh]

Probally all of it

Jug has always been bad

[stable fiber]

all of it

the spec was more fun when i just pushed execute when it lit up

[rare kite]

yupp

[stable fiber]

honestly i think you can and still do the same damage lol

esp if it procs during cs or after bs buff

[nova marsh]

Jugg genuinely should be removed for both specsc

That shit is trash

[rare kite]

genuinely ruins the spec so hard for me. turns out when you add shit to a sandwich is contaminates all the ingredients

[nova marsh]

Tbh jugg is a large part of why I rerolled

Fuck that rng nonsense

[minor gust]

slayer ruined jugg

[nova marsh]

Hard agree

[teal fossil]

Ye it made pre execute jug a real thing

Which should not be the case

[shadow ibex]

nice buffs

[serene hollow]

slayer needs a reasonable way to deal aoe damage that isn't adding cleave to the rotation

3 extra hits on bladestorm doesn't quite cut it imo

[nova marsh]

Yeah that's just not aligning with blizzards spec goals

Blizz said they want cleave to be arms main aoe damage source. So it wouldn't make sense for one hero spec to aze that

Not saying they're right thiu

[smoky kayak]

Reap says hello

but really Arms Bladestorm just needs a mega buff

[serene hollow]

if reap was guaranteed in bladestorm then maybe

but I would rather bladestorm just actually did something

[smoky kayak]

it's not gauranteed, but it has a very good chance of proccing over so many events

[soft sigil]

Reap probably needs to proc on every sudden death execute

[minor gust]

I dislike how slayer gets cdr for BS in keys

[soft sigil]

Would simulate the DF S3 tier somewhat

[minor gust]

much prefer colossus

[nova marsh]

The bs cdr is just dumb

Like it's just too much

[smoky kayak]

they need to just give Arms Bladestorm the Fury treatment - reduce its duration and increase its damage to compensate

• that would make it better in AoE both by concentrating the damage and reducing the downtime
• meanwhile it would actually nerf Unhinged slightly (to compensate for the gain from reducing downtime in ST)

basically making it 5 (8 w/ ID) ticks over 4s instead of 7 (10) over 6s

[serene hollow]

I would say that there's one more piece missing that could make it feel more slayer-esque. Empowered somehow after bladestorm, or empowered after x executes, or something

[smoky kayak]

that already exists in Overwhelm and Brutal Finish

[serene hollow]

that is the most boring version of empowered, plus isn't overwhelm permanantly at 10 stacks?

[smoky kayak]

not in multitarget it's not

[quiet bramble]

about arms AOE opener, do I go ThunClap > cleave > Avatar > roar > ravager > warbreak > cleave/mortal > demolish?

[smoky kayak]

the main thing I'd do to Slayer is change Slayer's Malice from +Overpower/Raging Blow damage to +Execute damage, making you care more about Execute damage directly instead of just SD procs (this is more important for Fury than Arms, but still relevant)

And then Juggernaut should be reduced to ~5s duration w/ 5 stacks maximum, thereby ensuring that no amount of good RNG will let you chain stacks, eliminating the current "Sudden Death weakaura" gaming that we currently deal with

SD should be a proc that you're excited to send, not a proc you constantly hold to the last second in order to game a buff

[minor gust]

im still surprised theres no class changes with this .5 patch

like no major changes

[smoky kayak]

minor patch and they're doing everything in hotfixes, class team is gonna be focusing on 11.2

[minor gust]

if my memory works right since the start of DF every .5 patch has had major class changes

this is the first time since then theres been nothing

[smoky kayak]

idk, but I don't think it's a required thing, in fact I kinda prefer they just send more hotfixes

just... you know, include Warriors a little bit

[bright zephyr]

i dont think that's always a good thing

[quiet bramble]

we need better sfx for cleave and rend, it sounds like hitting wet noodle

[bright zephyr]

they sound good to me tbh. warrior proably has one of the best sfx

[smoky kayak]

monkey paw gonna curl one way or another

[quiet bramble]

really?

i just wanted it to feel a bit more like mortal strike

[spiral coral]

Idk how I get here but 40% crit feels insane

[minor gust]

I dont think so either just was used to it kinda expected it

[shadow ibex]

one of these patches will look at warrior talents surely

but not in the way they do every patch where they move stuff and nothing really changes

[kind thunder]

yall think rush out tier set on like champion gear is worht it? or just wait until i get at least hero

[dire hinge]

you can farm hero gear from keys as low as +6, i'd recommend saving those for Catalyst

but ultimately up to you. Catalyst charges take 2 weeks each, so it's a short-term gain for potentially waiting IRL time to fix

[grand idol]

I think the whole talent tree thing ended up being a miss. There are just optimal routes and you barely, if ever, vary.

[nova marsh]

Depends on how you look at talent trees tbh

If you look at them through the lens of wanting to adapt as best as possible to your situation, I'd say they mostly succeeded

If you look at it through the lens of actual build diversity....yeah they fall so hard on their face

[hollow axle]

Iam having some trouble on raidbots trying to simc gems. Everytime he ignores the crit/meta and my dps falls... Any tips?

[minor gust]

had a caster mob perma evade on first pull in a 15 rookery and bricked it

this game sucks

[vagrant hull]

When we sim on raidbots. Do we use the dungeon slice option when trying to see how well we would perform in M+

[grand idol]

You need to select, under the meta gem options, to "always use"

And "only max colors". Though if the crit gem is better I assume it will use max colors regardless.

But, I would still select it.

[hollow axle]

Work like a charm

[tight summit]

Hey guys. For mythic +. What hero talent for arms have you thought to be the overall better? I understand it might chance considering the dungon. But just what you think is better and why 🙂

[thick kelp]

colossus always

[slow saddle]

This theres sadly no debate

[tight summit]

Appreciate it 😄

[flint terrace]

Can anyone send me their talent build for mythic plus

[slim iron]

Did blizz forget to put war notes in the patch notes?

[slow saddle]

Zero change are good change

We could get nerfee

[flint terrace]

Yeah was wondering why warrior was missing haha

[slow saddle]

Nerfed coz dk is to good

Feels like a possibility

[dull turtle]

Hi Just wanted to tell you guys, you are brave, remember it. Playing the only class getting nerf after nerf or never buffed. Stay strong.

[smoky kayak]

#1273899844599283733 message

[autumn dirge]

is it normal to sim higher with another 660 ring instead of cyrce?

[magic canopy]

for arms yes

circlet is normally fairly mastery heavy by design and as arms is a crit enjoyer if you can force it to give you crit its good, but its outclasses by correctly statted rings

[void bay]

general guide for all classes:

[minor gust]

felt like I played pretty well in this 16 ML still not enough

I must train more

[flat willow]

didn't pad enough

did you at least always hit the second add on the big azerite guy, even if it was useless

[minor gust]

if it was ever in range yee

[zenith lodge]

is this even true anymore? ive had multiple rings sim higher then circlet

[minor gust]

no its not true

good ring but will be replaced

[void bay]

not sure, its just pinned on my guild discord from ages ago.....it applied to my BM hunter at least

[robust cypress]

Is b-i-s used with 2nd colossus smash if I have an on use already?

[minor gust]

yes

[robust cypress]

ty

[warm flicker]

hi i have a question are my stats wrong? 31% Crit 20% Haste 29% mastery

[quaint aspen]

Nothing wrong, but sim yourself for new pieces of gear

[slow saddle]

Hmm 12-13s is deffo the spot where its hard to get invs as warrior

jesus

[slow saddle]

Shaman got buffed as well didnt they?

[minor gust]

oh yeah shaman was getting PI

[minor gust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[tacit crystal]

i need io

[minor gust]

then get it

[tacit crystal]

we timed 2 12sgot unlucky in a 14 then one person started turbo lagging

[minor gust]

im 2 points away from 3200

we did pretty well tonight

timed a 15 TOP and a 16 ML

[tacit crystal]

feels bad bc io isnt going up

but we practiced calling cc

and using it

[minor gust]

is what it is sometimes season is still early

[tacit crystal]

so was good

[minor gust]

dont worry about timing shit just play the game and practice

got plenty of time

[tacit crystal]

i already forgot what the rotation was

grips beam silence nova sleet?

[minor gust]

yall playing full meta?

[tacit crystal]

yeah

[minor gust]

oof

disgusting!

[tacit crystal]

can you find the vod of xmd doing 19 top

and see waht they did

i forgot the rotation already

i knew it

i forgot chains

[minor gust]

idk what it is

were doing pretty well for our weird ass comp

[tacit crystal]

grips chains beam silence chaos nova sleet blast wave supernova kicks

boom

@swift crown

wait where is misery

[sacred zodiac]

Gio57 and Gala not seen in the same room

Interesting

[tacit crystal]

combust bud

[sacred zodiac]

Gm king

[tacit crystal]

gio and revvez not seen in same raid

[sacred zodiac]

True

[tacit crystal]

i should have been asleep 3 hours ago

[minor gust]

sames but I dont work tomorrow so time to ruin my sleep

[tacit crystal]

grips

[minor gust]

we bricked a 15 rookery because one of the caster mobs in first pull decided to perma evade

and just murder our priest

great game blizzard

[tacit crystal]

chains

[tacit crystal]

hi question

where would misery and psychic scream go

[sacred zodiac]

Shifz f12

Idk what either of those buttons are

[tacit crystal]

sigil of misery and priest aoe fear

or do you not play around them bc mechanical creatures and undead cant be feared

[sacred zodiac]

Wtf are you saying

[tacit crystal]

cc rotation

🙂

[untold pewter]

Sir this is Skyhold, we can barely read imagine using magic

[minor gust]

Gio doesnt even play warrior

never seen it

dk mage lock smh

[tacit crystal]

cope

me when i fotm

[sacred zodiac]

Idk i dont minigame

[muted tree]

bois is it worth to craft a ring to replace CC?

[void bay]

simming is your answer

[muted tree]

can i sim something that i dont have ?

not even in my vault?

[void bay]

yep

[muted tree]

oh shit

thnx

[void bay]

just search for it in the box at the top and enter ilevel and stats

I did it for neck on my hunter just now....all stat combos minus vers

[warm flicker]

this is me daily

[minor gust]

Well stop it secondary stats aren't real

[candid pecan]

man... another 15% MS, 15% OP, 10% cleave would have been nice

maybe give us back 15% execute dam

war buffs once 200 guilds have cutting edge, surely

[autumn dirge]

whats the best m+ sim option?

8 bosses 40 secs?

[sacred zodiac]

whatever you want

none of it will model m+ well unless you know what you're doing

[halcyon valve]

Dungeon slice, fuck it we ball

[chilly isle]

Can be good if your average pull in m+ is 8ish targets and last for 40 seconds.

Just remember to disable all (or some) of the raid buffs (not battle shout) and bloodlust

and probably remove dps pot as well

[real saddle]

guys I am searching for a Execute WA that works normally for under 20% health mobs, and when I have Massacre it works from 35% health mobs

[slow saddle]

But id rather take a buff to roar🤣

[candid pecan]

a buff to bleeds woudl be nice

by reverting the BB and thunderous words nerfs

[slow saddle]

100%

Better for collosus

[halcyon valve]

I would love it, simply because it would make the spiteful serenity meme build sim good again

[frigid rose]

just started warrior, would my first craft be a good idea to make a weapon 675

[slow saddle]

Yes

100%

U will still have sparks to craft duskthread

If u mainly m+

[frigid rose]

ill do that then, cheers

[slow saddle]

Ofc u can gamba in vault

[halcyon valve]

I always gamba in vault

[slow saddle]

Depends if u are gettin carriedninto kwys

Or solo gamin

[fading gale]

Hi all! New to arms, and was wondering what I should be looking for in logs for improvement?

[halcyon valve]

Cd usage mainly ig
Next is just mortal strike usage

[fading gale]

Yeah, I noticed my cpm is significantly lower than other arms warriors. Classic

[olive nest]

thats just it too

press buttons as fast as possible in the right order

kind of a warrior staple

[fading gale]

right - this is my first tier trying a melee dps spec, so uptime has been a learning experience fo rme

[slow saddle]

Y agressiveness

Is so important

[shadow ibex]

I just think ours are especially bad and every "revamp" of our class tree has just resulted in the same

I'm taking the same shit I took in DF only I get Shockwave now

Despite 4? or 3 facelifts