arms

[sacred zodiac]

link the sim

you are apparently gaining more from going to pace->reverb than our evoker went from not having a cards at all to having a mythic cards and mythic bis

[random ibex]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cSf4QZ5KoGuPfvQwQm8gxW

[fossil thistle]

ew fury

[empty raft]

lmao

[random ibex]

i simmed both fury and arms

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oqou2Qvgsxg2kjffzGgra8

heres the sim for arms

[sacred zodiac]

i think something is wrong with these sims but i cant find what

[fossil thistle]

Much better

gave me a scare there

[sacred zodiac]

but ye no reverb radio isnt +70k its just part of the best upgrade sequence

[random ibex]

its +69k from my current trinkets according to sim though

unless APL is bugged

[sacred zodiac]

oh you gave it infinite crests

thats why this sim felt so off

[random ibex]

ya im assuming im maxed upgrades

[sacred zodiac]

bit too early for that no

and if you're thinking that long term then you just dont equip reverb radio whenever you have that many gilded crests

[random ibex]

ill be maxed upgrades this week

[rare kite]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/95ZRRtHtgDmks4HdGXJNVd reverb is 16k for you

[rich ridge]

hello is arms uncapped aoe?

or is it like fury?

[rare kite]

@random ibex

[lapis osprey]

hi i have a question i try to simp my weapon ins arm spec and dont know if is better a haste mastery 678 or my bandit weapon 658, every simp i do put the weapon but high warrior never use the bandit weapon annny hel plz

[halcyon breach]

The reason why is because weapon ilvl is better than the effect, and extremely few have actually gotten a mythic BiS yet, which is why you don't see many people with it

[quasi torrent]

@halcyon breach hewwwooo

[halcyon breach]

@quasi torrent henloo

[swift crown]

helluwu fwiends :3

[onyx robin]

guys do we know about an aura for when to execute as arms?

sudden death procs i mean

[dim basalt]

ctrl + f sd conditions

or #dps-faq

How far did you guys get on your first day on sprocketmonger mythic

[eager sigil]

we started sunday and got to 38%

[dim basalt]

Jesus

We got to 50

[eager sigil]

well we had 30minutes on wednesday

so i lied

but yea

think we didnt make it past the bad overlap

mines into big beams

[dim basalt]

All the times we did the gate thing we lost lots of people

Otherwise prob ~40% too

[eager sigil]

yea thats just how it goes

then you get drills in melee

and its over

[tacit crystal]

[dim basalt]

I feel like there are still blue peeps taking the first gate

[tacit crystal]

surely its like that for me

[onyx robin]

thanks <3

[eager sigil]

its just full vape fight for melee

gotta wait for ranged to sort their stuf and it dies

[dim basalt]

mhm

But its a really nice boss

First mythic boss Im actually enjoying

[eager sigil]

yea after cancer stix

maybe i get to play dps once

[dim basalt]

[eager sigil]

richard reverb tank jail

atleast i stole myth weapon and shield

good for weekly keys

[shadow ibex]

Last night we didn't have enough ranged at the start

So melee drills

[eager sigil]

just logout

[limpid drift]

second vault just came back after df s4

feeling blessed

[quasi torrent]

?

[tacit crystal]

funny haha number

[naive breach]

my last 2 vaults were giga dog

if vault tomorrow bad

going to play ret or some shit

[tacit crystal]

my dk get eh vault

[shadow ibex]

ill take it i guess

i was lazy last week didnt fill m+ vault

[calm hollow]

anyone knows if there is a setting for plater to not come front of the normal UI i use?

[olive nest]

whats your guys opinion 14 minutes left on timer at candleking in 15dfc

timeable?

dk just kep loling and jumping around and then proceeds to leave

lmao

[dim basalt]

Easily timeable

[olive nest]

like what is that!?

[shadow ibex]

its leg day baby

[dim basalt]

leg day 🤢

[shadow ibex]

get you some preworkout containing banned substances

fuck around and fight a cop

[gentle frigate]

When you guys do the raid do you send it on arms for every boss or switch it up depending on the boss?

[hexed snow]

Only arms for me

But last szn was only fury

One armed looks like a fury boss however

[hazy elk]

Anyone know if you can actually spell reflect swampfaces frontal? Or is this WA trolling?

[tacit crystal]

test it

[hazy elk]

I was gunna but didn't wanna fall on my face lmao, I'll have to now though

[tacit crystal]

try it on normal or something

[formal verge]

I tried it the other day after seeing it. It deflects something but you defo still die

[supple badge]

So how important is cleave outside of the overpower proc and the end of sweeping strikes proc?

Still use on cooldown or just for mortal wounds?

[grand idol]

Last season it told me that the frontals from the melee trash in Dawnbreaker could be reflected. it was a lie

[quaint otter]

rookie numbers

[edgy dew]

demolish turns into colossus smash so what does that do?

[errant island]

is the best in slot wep at heroic level going to be better than the maxed out crafted item i made?

[grand idol]

I don't think so. But it's a simple sim to compare them to answer for sure.

[quaint otter]

no

[scenic lake]

kinda new to this spec so forgive me - #dps-faq says to not bother binding rend when you have thunder clap talented. but there would be a slight dps increase on single target just sticking to rend right? or is it so marginal no one cares?

[wintry arch]

Um I know a long time ago it was a very small increase on single target. Like when rend was first baked into tc. I can’t say for sure that’s still true. But you won’t notice a dps difference.

[magic canopy]

it still is a slight dps increase but it legit isnt worth it. even on boss fights you can use it when out of range to deal damage/re apply rend

[tacit crystal]

me when i only stack crit

[magic canopy]

but it legit does not matter at all unless you are maybe Race to world first and even then. Tclap has enough applications that even they might not use it

[scenic lake]

ah right yeah I hadnt thought of the range difference

makes sense

[tacit crystal]

but madox rend good

grats on killing gally

[minor gust]

Rend deez nuts

[nova marsh]

Rend me daddy

[copper summit]

does spark drop random places for ppl?

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/castiel-supernatural-misha-collins-sitting-relaxing-gif-17871660

[reef glade]

smadsnox guild better than wonka guild???

[torn nest]

Best rotation for m+? Just send cds on cd and cleave when up with procs for MS and OP?

Keeping bleed up with thunderclap?

Or should I be trying to line up all cds?

[coral fossil]

Ring vs tier? Sim says tier by just a few thousand dps, but man that ring just calls to me

[tacit crystal]

did you check the wowhead guide

[torn nest]

I’ll go back and reread it. Feels like I am not doing as much as I could be so I wasn’t sure if there was something other than the guide that I was missing

[tacit crystal]

do you have a log or vod

[torn nest]

ooo good idea, ill log the next one

are sites like wow analyzer any good for that sort of thing?

[inland yarrow]

Johnny just dm me you weirdo

I’ll get you right

[tacit crystal]

goat

[reef glade]

practice what you preach

[trail arrow]

fellas, prot imposter here, why is cyrce's in our BiS but I can't get it to sim better than my current rings

[reef glade]

its not bis for arms for sure

at this point its just a stat ring

and higher ilvl rings have more/better stats generally

[torn nest]

haha awesome, thats what i need from a fellow johnny

[trail arrow]

so wowhead isn't right?

[reef glade]

eh i mean maybe the assumption is that with all the other bis gear "somehow" magically the distribution of stats the ring gives is the best or something

but like bis lists are pretty unrealistic to attain

and if its not simming better for you right now its not better

[trail arrow]

yeah I dig that, it's just a lot lower so I was surprised to see it there

[reef glade]

o i mean its also prolly just outdated

still using skipper

ring has been nerfed since we used skipper psure never touch that gem anymore

[trail arrow]

good to know I'm not going crazy

[tacit crystal]

no do as i say not as i do

[balmy kindle]

Cyrce should lose to any crit ring 662 onwards

[lean geode]

That's a crazy statement to make so generally

You have no idea what other items a given person has equipped

[balmy kindle]

Ideally you should still sim it but I was quite surprised that it lost to a crit haste h track ring fairly early into the season

[last wagon]

is it still possible to get the legion hidden appearance for arms?

[shadow ibex]

yes

just gotta beat saurfang or something

but its only up certain weeks

[prime bramble]

funhouse lens doesnt exist

[vestal isle]

use best in slot on cd?

or how does it work

[dense vector]

Does bladestorm not hit barrels on Richard

On our reclear I did like no damage to barrels on logs

But I remember bladestorming at least 1 set

[shadow ibex]

bladestorm doesnt do very much dmg

[dense vector]

Guess I inted but it’s heroic so it doesn’t matter much

[smoky kayak]

does if you're in range of them

[compact geyser]

got heroic hoc in vault today

[dense vector]

I had 34 hits and they only did 6mill in total

[shadow ibex]

bladestorm ticks only hit for about as hard as slam

[dense vector]

Oof

[shadow ibex]

it hits 7 times so

7 hits for 1 mil dam

[smoky kayak]

34 hits sounds like it's hitting

[forest hearth]

Hey gang, is the Cyrce's circlet still BiS through heroic UM? Sim says I should swap it for a 658 ring with crit/haste but I wasn't sure

[balmy kindle]

🤖 says swap you swap

[forest hearth]

🫡 🫡 🫡

[nova marsh]

God

OAB is a trash boss even on heroic

[sleek crow]

is mythic vexie a ST or Aoe fight?

[rare kite]

st. like sure there are some adds there but grabbing any aoe for them as arms is kinda troll

[nova marsh]

I mean grabbing aoe most fights is kinda meh as arms

[noble oxide]

Coaleced Hatred any good in M+?

[pliant kindle]

Bladestorm should be one of the strongest AoEs in the game since it visually looks like you're furiously destroying everything around you, but unfortunately that's not what happens 😦

[mild hound]

colossus feels pretty gr8, dont miss it this tier tbh - while i do agree, lol

[nova marsh]

Until u do keys

[halcyon breach]

The balls

[potent creek]

Is this a socket angle? I've got crafted wep + crafted bracers

[balmy kindle]

Play colo, had more fun there on Colo on my H kill

[weak wave]

Can we get another spark this week?

[outer holly]

well you get 1 spark per week

[potent creek]

1 per 2

and yes we gonna get one this week

[tender jolt]

Is there a page somewhere that has talent builds for each individual boss for Raid? My guild does heroic and currently progging mythic, just wanting to make sure I'm setting myself up for sucess

[halcyon breach]

I don't think wowhead has been fully updated for this, otherwise just use warcraftlogs

[bleak fog]

Myth helm that I will turn into set next week or myth Crit/mast boots.. Hmm

[tender jolt]

Fair! Will do, ty!

[severe carbon]

Got eye on hero track in vault but it sims lower than my champ funhouse lens 😮 do i choose a mythic set piece instead?

[random ridge]

Is raidbits stats weight a good tool or is it garbage ? I get mixed opinions

[thick kelp]

Garbage

[stark cape]

I have Hero House of Cards, Pacemaker, Funhouse Lens, Eye of Kezan, Mechano-Core Amplifier, and a Mister Lock-N-Stalk.

To find which is best for keys Arms

Do I just sim Patchwerk 5 Boss?

[quaint otter]

8 targets 40 sec

[boreal quartz]

Hoc pace and chill

[smoky kayak]

it's only useful if you're constantly rerunning it, but since you can just sim items directly, there's no point to relying on stat weights anymore

[boreal quartz]

Low effort high results combo

[smoky kayak]

prob the best combo regardless lol

assuming all the same ilevel anyway

[minor gust]

I've had both since week one can confirm very chill

[smoky kayak]

I never got a pacemaker lol, even from end of dungeon

[stark cape]

wtf

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vgfmM9kEGrD9yVB7241dUA

wants me to use funhouse lens over house of cards

ahhh probably because 8 boss 40 seconds

not enough time to use 2nd trinket im assuming?

[smoky kayak]

well you're only using one trinket anyway

40s sims don't mean much of anything though

if I had to guess, I'd say it's probably because

• you're already high on mastery
• their ilevels are very similar
• the sim isn't long enough to leverage the extra effect on HoC repeat use

[prime bramble]

farming delve trinkets has felt awful this tier

[stark cape]

Ahh yeah maybe 31% haste is a bit high

guess I can try the vers mastery ring instead with those shoulders

[smoky kayak]

mastery, HoC gives mastery

[stark cape]

Oh im talking about it also wanting me to swap my ring.

i have a big haste > crit one armed bandit ring

[smoky kayak]

you also didn't put any sockets in that ring

[stark cape]

Trying a dungeon slice with fixed talents, and doing the upgrade on my HoC

the ring is socketed. not sure why it didnt account that

[smoky kayak]

not on that sim it isn't

[stark cape]

yeah idk why or how to fix that.

[smoky kayak]

press the + sign on the item

[stark cape]

sims almost done. should get a better idea

I mostly crafted everything for haste mastery.

is it safe to recraft my neck to haste crit instead of haste mastery?

[smoky kayak]

probably want haste/vers, but you can test these things yourself

[stark cape]

Thankyou

[smoky kayak]

oh wait sorry, we're in Arms lol

yeah you probably want some crit, but you should probably just run the sims yourself to see where your stats are

at a certain point, the value of haste/crit is going to drop and vers or mastery will start picking up a little more, just from raw ilevel

[stark cape]

Awesome tysm.

Do we ever take off Circlet?

Think its best to probably wait and craft a 2h weapon since no myth track. i passed on 2 of them so far in my vault for hero track bis from raid like a bafoon 😦

but these are all things I can sim i appreciate your help as always

[smoky kayak]

Yeah, Arms replaces it easier than Fury, but you'll still need a p decent ring

[stark cape]

just thinking about crafting a ring or just waiting 2 more weeks to do a 2h.

[smoky kayak]

Yeah tough choice... I doubt the ring would get too much though, so probably just save if you're starved for weapons

[stark cape]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sZmkExBsncrE79h9T1kXLX

All worked out ❤️

[smoky kayak]

good deal, I'm probably crafting neck tomorrow was well

[minor gust]

Got a myth one in my first vault. My gear luck has been incredibly insane this tier I feel like a liquid raider. Currently only have 3 non myth track gear slots and currently chillin at 670

[smoky kayak]

did someone say juiced?

I got so much shit, I can't upgrade everything

[minor gust]

We juicin

😎

[balmy kindle]

You guys surely paid blizz

[smoky kayak]

lack of a M weapon was holding me back, but Stix finally came through

feels kinda silly taking back out of vault and crafting neck, since I'm going to end up crafting a cloak at some point for double duskthread, but that won't happen till the end of the tier, and by then we'll have plenty of extra crests/sparks

[minor gust]

Now that we got another spark as soon as I get a myth track wep I'ma craft/recraft for double dusk since in pushing keys this season

I had a myth wep in vault last week but opted out of it for a myth helm with socket since we didn't have a spark

[smoky kayak]

on the other hand, I'm basically a fuckin space marine, so ya know, that's p cool

[balmy kindle]

Just head to the TOP mines, the crit mast and crit haste rings are pretty good

[rain cipher]

why craft neck when you can buy boe neck? you can save crests

[smoky kayak]

Well for one I don't want crit/mastery

for two, what do you think I'm made of money!?

[hexed snow]

Answer on 2 is yes

[smoky kayak]

if only

I have enough to be comfortable, but I don't do sales, so not enough to blow millions on short term BoE gains

[hexed snow]

Treat ya self with a token

[potent fossil]

question- https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1aq9ojM4HWdCA6JXtKrNj8 can anyone tell me why i'm simming so low?

5 mins 1 training dummy

[swift crown]

Small 100€ investment for neck

📈

[potent fossil]

ppl in similar ilvl brackets seem to be simming 500k easily more than me

[swift crown]

You're simming Target Dummy no buffs

It seems

When most people sim 5min patchwerk all buffs

[potent fossil]

kk lemme restore

default options and resim

[hexed snow]

Stonks

[potent fossil]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7YyUMLezU8MMx9dJZr5BDK

ok much better lmao ty

[hexed snow]

Might be too early but anyone know what corrupted enchants we will be cooking with?

[proven gorge]

hey guys, whats the Opener for a big pull with all CD, like the bees dungeon first room

[dim basalt]

statstick

afaik

[swift crown]

All the corruptions are trash except Void Ritual atm

[hexed snow]

I just go for the wowhead one

[swift crown]

But that might be a case of no tuning yet

[grand idol]

I hope not. Dying because twilight procced is some of the most fun I've had in wow.

[hexed snow]

Thanks for answers

Hopefully it's not just stats lol

[swift crown]

That won't happen

All the damage ones are just damage procs, nothing special about them

[hexed snow]

Me when Thing From The Void (my character but cooler) chases me during dog boss in BFA

[swift crown]

No max HP scaling on Dev, no insane stacking Stars damage

[hexed snow]

[swift crown]

Nothing interesting

Just some flat damage (that is tuned really low)

[hexed snow]

With enough complaints they will drop a 20% buff

[swift crown]

(These effects are still trash with a 100% buff)

[hexed snow]

It's joever

Oh shit forgot to upload vault photo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506236337859461131/1359406536824455339/image.png?ex=67f75d7e&is=67f60bfe&hm=39f0eb4580f4f23683b374d8021538e11b7505d09179594aa165566912e533fd&

[sacred zodiac]

No honey buzzer

Why bother

[hexed snow]

Weapon has indestructible

Freeeeee

Most likely going for cape anyway :(

[daring heron]

prolly taking neck, sad having to pass the ring

[grand idol]

A ring for both specs.

[tough tangle]

That ring is an arms warrior dream

[sacred zodiac]

You are never seeing that again lmao

[tough tangle]

take that ring big boss

[blissful tree]

2nd weapon for fury or that ring.

[daring heron]

yeah i know

[hexed snow]

That ring is juicy asf wtff

[quasi comet]

Old question but why can arms not use whirlwind in colossal? I have looked all over my tree trying to find my beloved and nothing says it is replaced

[tacit crystal]

cleave replaces it

says it when you talent into cleave

[quasi comet]

thank you, i typed whirlwind in the search and had looked at every other talent besides cleave. I miss whirlie but hey who am I

[narrow flax]

Barlton

[quasi comet]

you know what your right, I am Barlton, The Barlton

I will be starting a petetion/Riot for whirlwind to return

[calm hollow]

1st socket angle i guess

[boreal quartz]

Arent those legs playable

[calm hollow]

dont really need it

belt and boots are myth track too, was hoping for neck or Jastor kinda

i'm at that spot, when i shouldnt even have 1 myhic vault to have a better chance on ring

[boreal quartz]

Sim a mythic tier Helmet and those legs

For science

Vs just current helmet at M ilvl

[calm hollow]

how much sockets sim now this tier?

[fresh spire]

Ring is backwards statted can be crit mastery for colossus

Basically the ring from council

Personal feelings neck just wins for both fury and arms gaming if you still have a hc one. Only thing you don't get is the +1 luck to flips 😦

[slow saddle]

Haste - versa 2h OR Crit -mastery 2h ? i got both in vault and i play both specs 🙂

[balmy kindle]

Ask🤖

[calm hollow]

accurate name, lmao

[eager sigil]

I took sockets because I'm behind on crests anyway

[smoky kayak]

unless you already grabbed it, you could always think about taking the ring and crafting a neck instead

[brittle fiber]

been trying to find an answer to this for a minute:

if i'm at 2 executioner's precision, over 85 rage, AND opportunist has procced, am i sending overpower to further buff mortal strike or send an execute as execute will be buffed by juggernaut

i know the wowhead says that you only op if <2 MP, <85 rage and opportunist proc but in the instance where you have a sudden death proc and it keeps you over 85 rage after an execute

[slow saddle]

Ah ik its just hazzle, requires me to recraft. 2 pieces

[thick kelp]

If <2mp send opportunist

[brittle fiber]

thank you 🙏

[thick kelp]

Rage conditional can be ignored if you are playing with BS

[brittle fiber]

yea ive switched back to bs

[naive breach]

what vault is this

nr 4?

socket angle for me

shit game

[dim basalt]

👏 Make 👏 Ravslayer 👏 good 👏

[eager sigil]

just craft

no way you got crests to upgrade all that gear anyway

[naive breach]

fucking

double bracer

in vault

end me

[halcyon breach]

It is (for execute)

[balmy kindle]

Try triple useless trinkets

[naive breach]

double wrist, delve only dogg items, and ravenous honey buzzer as last m+

[smoky kayak]

tell me about it

[balmy kindle]

Meanwhile people here have kezan + jastors

[dim basalt]

Not good enough

[charred shoal]

does cyrce's signet sim properly? for me its simming lower than some other rings

[gray herald]

[latent moss]

yes

[charred shoal]

😮

i still see every top warrior running it tho

[balmy kindle]

It's most of not getting the h or M track bis rings

[quasi torrent]

not everyone has gear setups where it isnt outclassed

[charred shoal]

I see

[balmy kindle]

Surely paid blizz for VIP loot service

[balmy kindle]

If you want to you can just farm TOP for 1 week, 2 good rings in 1 dungeon

[gray herald]

for me 665 rings dont outsim signet

[gray herald]

i simply had the biggest number

[balmy kindle]

Nice being able to roll, my raid group doesn't even see trinkets ever

Everyone's like : oh well surely we get em on dinars

[onyx cosmos]

Is there any statistics on what class does most execute dmg?

[brittle fiber]

any chatters here have 35% boss weak aura?

[slow saddle]

Why, exe is available at 35

[quaint otter]

Plater

[quasi torrent]

eyes addon

[slow saddle]

What is wa supposed to do?

Sound queue?

[brittle fiber]

yea

[slow saddle]

Would actually be cool

[brittle fiber]

plater doesnt do target plates does it

[slow saddle]

Sound should be theme to star wars

[quasi torrent]

not even 2 weeks

until the only good disney star wars propery gets its 2nd season!

[stiff escarp]

yo, what should my crit/haste % be at before i start hoarding mastery?

[dim basalt]

There are no softcaps

Just sim your gear and takes whats best

(plus theres no reason to ignore mastery because its also a good stat)

[west oracle]

Hello everyone, what simulation we do for mythic+? I want to determine which item to choose from vault

[dim basalt]

5T patchwerk

[west oracle]

2 minutes?

[dim basalt]

5

[quaint otter]

Why

Its unrealistic scenario...

[dim basalt]

Didnt you ask that before

Might as well call 1T patchwerk for raid bad because unrealistic

[west oracle]

Yea i forgot 😅, got 4 chara each got its on simu

[dim basalt]

No I didnt mean you

[west oracle]

Oh the fight length is 5minutes?

[dim basalt]

5 min is best for average value ye

[quaint otter]

It is more or less realistic

[west oracle]

Thanks a lot

[tacit sandal]

Why cant we just use dungeon slice for simming m+ instead of 5 targets/5 min?

[dim basalt]

Because nobody is maintaining dslice for Arms

Too much work

And Im pretty sure the result would be fairly similar

[remote ledge]

1t3min, 1t3min no lust, 8t 40s lust, 6t1min no lust

Pick and choose

[stone hazel]

So when crafting I dont specifically just go haste crit ?

[dim basalt]

You should sim which stat combination gives the most dps, correct

Going specifically for the 2 "best" stats doesnt work for any spec really

Things can shift quickly when gear changes

[stone hazel]

That's fair enough

[forest hearth]

wait is this the correct Dungeon Sim over slice?

[forest hearth]

Is this linked or pinned anywhere?

[dim basalt]

I dont think so no

But the theorycrafters here suggest doing 5T instead of dslice

[forest hearth]

What is 5T?

[dim basalt]

5 targets

[forest hearth]

5 target dummy 5 mins?

or is the one listed as hectic add cleave (Regular add spawns (5 adds up about 40% of the fight), frequent movement. Similar to T15 Horridon)

[dim basalt]

patchwerk 5 targets 5 minutes

[forest hearth]

This is where I would put my heart and fire reacts

https://tenor.com/view/if-i-had-one-angry-yelling-fairly-odd-parents-mr-turner-gif-16322274

[quaint otter]

try 8t 40 sec for burst sim

which is usually u play around in m+

[forest hearth]

righteous, I'll give that a shot

trying to push for portals at least this season once people stop getting hit by stupid mechanics we get heroic gally sorted

[quaint otter]

portals are ezy

just play ur rotation on dummies few times

[forest hearth]

I'm not concerned about my damage as much as I'm concerned about my easily distractable nature. Need to work on finding a solid group and dodging the bad on the floor

[hardy olive]

guys 665 bis vs 675 weapon which one better

[shadow ibex]

the one with the bigger number

[eager sigil]

weapon ilevel wins everytime

[sweet cargo]

yeah Warrior has wanted bigger weapon damage since the dawn of wow always

[vague ore]

how often do you hit thunderclap in a big pull? since it only targets 5, do you have to use thunderclap more than once or do you only press it once and then normal rotation

[slow saddle]

Bt + tc in bigg pulls

To bait procs

Wait

Arms

[teal fossil]

should still be pretty foten

cuz applying rend on someone without rend is a lot of damage

provide they live through rend

[maiden robin]

Is there a trinked list somewhere for Arms M+ enjoyers!?

[slow saddle]

Dno i clap once then its cleave op ms time

[vague ore]

does it prioritise targets that don't have it?

[teal fossil]

i remember it does

[slow saddle]

No

[vague ore]

or does it just hit the closest enemies

[teal fossil]

but i dont think it refreshes the lowest rend

someone walk into m0 as prot and test

lol

[slow saddle]

Fml i dont know

[naive sage]

iirc it does

[vague ore]

alright thanks

[light dirge]

how do i ease the pain of not critting DEMO

[naive sage]

Welcome to my life

[quaint otter]

shot of vodka each time it happens

[light dirge]

i feel physically ill

[daring heron]

noncrit demos are whatever

ones that get cancelled are the ones that set me off

[quaint otter]

yeah 5kk is more than 0...

[light dirge]

getting them cancelled because the enemy walks away is one thing

but leapin in the middle of it by mistake is a whole nother

[fast axle]

I got Eye of Kezan(665) and head piece (678) in vault , and I have Improvised Seaforium(665) and Signet of the Priory(678) and the head from Hero(665) .

I try to sim and every time eye of kezan is lower than the head. like Sim 5 patch 5 minutes , eye of kezan +48k and head +143k. Same on single target

[forest hearth]

Arms warrior liver strengthening training

[sacred zodiac]

Kezan is poop for m+ if that is what ur trying to sim

It is probably insanely good if you perfectly chainpull but thats not real

[fast axle]

I try to get the best gear for M+. Thanks for the info

[forest hearth]

Also are the Mr Lock-N-Stalk sims accurate for AoE? It seems to be locked into the single target mode on raidbots

[teal fossil]

Yeah it is

It switches to the aoe version when the count is appropriate

Q

[forest hearth]

So it's just dogwater in AoE situations?

[shadow ibex]

If you don't set it to aoe

[teal fossil]

archi said that lock toggles to AOE automatically in sims

so it may actually just be shit in aoe

[forest hearth]

brutal, appreciate it

[quaint otter]

yes. And get some snacks for pancreas training too

[forest hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[wintry arch]

Has anyone successfully convinced a guildy to get mc’ed at precisely the right time on richard reverb in order to extend jugg stacks?

[dim basalt]

How does that work

Oh

[wintry arch]

It might take two actually

[dim basalt]

I dont think I ever thought about extending it that way

[wintry arch]

It happened by accident to me once

I still dropped stacks because it was too early I think

[crystal nymph]

Richard reverberate

[wintry arch]

Richard Reverberate is my father’s name. You can call me dick jiggle

[dry pine]

hey there! could someone tell me how valuable leech is for arms? my current vault options are myth shoulders (10k upgrade) with leech vs chest (20k). guild is very far away from killing sprocketmonger so there´s no other way to get a chestpiece upgrade outside of vault. both of my currently equipped items are 6/6 hc so I wouldnt save crests on either.

[boreal quartz]

Sim for dps

[dry pine]

killing third boss is quite a while away aswell I think so I´m just not sure if that extra leech on shoulders is worth the temporary dmg loss of chest.

[boreal quartz]

Who cares about leech

[dim basalt]

You wont notice the leech tbh

[boreal quartz]

Healer heal

[dry pine]

I dunno. I played healer for years so I start wincing by default when I miss a possible leech upgrade. haha

[boreal quartz]

Ur cured now

Go for dam

[dry pine]

alright. chest piece it is. thanks fellow melee brains ❤️

[teal fossil]

leech is better on healers because your HPS>DPS

in general

if the average dps is 2 million, the average HPS is about 2.5 million

so you heal more

and obviously leech also counts towards your HPS which is more parses

[dry pine]

aye. just wasnt sure how much value it is for a dps in comparison. never really had to consider that before. I guess avoidance > leech > speed anyway? (I wont tell anyone that going fast is the coolest though!)

[dim basalt]

And being able to heal yourself without actually healing yourself is gud

Leech isnt too bad in M+ but in raid its whatever imo

If you die its most likely not because of some missing leech

[muted tree]

hello bois any ideas for third craft?

i have been farming the ToP ring so long and it doesnt drop so i guess ring?

[dim basalt]

I crafted ring 3rd because of the same issue

[forest hearth]

Whatever gaps you need filled seems to be the concensus

I'm doing weapon because my luck has been garbage and who knows when dinar is showing up

[fathom hollow]

Is there a way to sim what the best crest upgrade item is you own?

[teal fossil]

well technically its 0 value

but its all subjective

just go off vibes

[boreal quartz]

Unless keys speed>>rest

If keys avoid>rest

Not like you get to chose

[teal fossil]

just vibe

[dim basalt]

Cant stop thinking about all the vibe coding memes

[boreal quartz]

Vibe is how i play factorio

Very badly

[zenith warren]

what lag tolerance you guys play with?

[fathom hollow]

Why does everyone have amplifier when it doesnt even sim better than 665 pacemaker

[boreal quartz]

Like 300

[wintry arch]

Doesn’t sim better for you maybe

Pacemaker is great in aoe I’ve found or if you have low crit

665 mechano out sims it for me

[muted tree]

got ToP mythic wep from vault as a choice

should i take it?

[dim basalt]

Why would you not take it if you dont have a myth track weapon

[muted tree]

i have 675

crafted

[dim basalt]

well then its sim-time

vs your other choices

[muted tree]

yeah i simmed it and it doesnt sim more that tier helm hero

but i see a lot of dudes chasing 678 weps

[dim basalt]

tier helm it is imo

[wintry arch]

You’re gonna take a heroic tier helm over myth wep?

[muted tree]

its with socket

[rich ridge]

Sounds wild

[muted tree]

and it sims more

[dim basalt]

I was assuming myth track helm

[muted tree]

and i lose the crit from the wep and it fucks my stats up

the hast mb

[wintry arch]

It sims more because of socket. That being said if there was a dinar announcement the decision would be easier

[muted tree]

i have champ helm

and im 666

[wintry arch]

But unless you plan on never getting myth helm idk. I’d just farm a heroic helm and cata it

[muted tree]

is 3 ilvls that much of a difference tho

[wintry arch]

Kinda yeah. Especially if you ever go fury

[muted tree]

nah i never plan on going fury never played and never will XD

[wintry arch]

You’ll eventually replace both. If I were you I’d take sockets for a myth helm.

Assuming you’re gonna dinar myth best in slots as your first dinar

But if you need dmg now I’d go weapon.

Really need a dinar announcement tbh

[muted tree]

what is dinar ?

XD

[dim basalt]

I feel like we wont see any dinars

Because they forgot about it

[muted tree]

oh the currenct

[nova marsh]

Item used to buy raid loot

[candid pecan]

WHAT? how else am i gonna get mythic BIS weap... we will prolly extend after One arm boss is dead on mythic....

sad times

[dim basalt]

Its just a feeling bud

I dont trust Blizz ever

[nova marsh]

Or blizz underestimated how long they'd take to get the .5 out

It's weird seeing blizz do delayed updates though

[smoky kayak]

I'm betting either it'll be hotfixed into late 11.1.5 or just 11.1.7

as fun as they'd be, launching with 11.1.5 would have been way too early; HoF isn't even half full yet

[boreal quartz]

But reddit said raid is easy

[nova marsh]

Reddit lied

[boreal quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873282359074627585/1274193280258674749/attachment-1-1.gif

No way reddit is clueless

Surely not

[nova marsh]

It's probs a bunch heroic raiders

[boreal quartz]

[dim basalt]

endboss easy = raid easy

[smoky kayak]

people love to aggrandize things

[boreal quartz]

Redditors all raid at wf level

[smoky kayak]

that said, I do think the (post-nerf) pacing on this raid has been pretty spot on
Bandit probably should have been nerfed last week, but minor in the grand scheme

[boreal quartz]

Boss isnt hard for players of that caliber

[dim basalt]

You dont?

[hot cypress]

As someone whos guild is currently progging Stix, Stix should be nerfed more :^)

[swift crown]

I wont say what I think

[nova marsh]

Stix just

[dim basalt]

Stix is fine tbh

[nova marsh]

Shouldn't exist

[hot cypress]

I love visual clarity

I love having blinking nameplates on top of everything while roll around doing 0 dps

[void bay]

BIG MONEY!, BIG PRIZES!

[nova marsh]

No

OAB can die in a fire

[smoky kayak]

there's a little bit of prog, but I don't think the boss is so bad, and the more gear/playerpower inflates, the less balls need to be perfect

[nova marsh]

1% wipe bullshit trash boss

[hot cypress]

My guildies are just attracted to bombs it is what it is 🤣

[smoky kayak]

Stix was my least favorite boss on N/H
but Bandit is my least favorite on Mythic

[void bay]

its a quote from Smash TV, I love it

[nova marsh]

I think bandit is my least favorite overall

[swift crown]

Bandit is just not a good boss

[void bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCKWp6-kYpc

[swift crown]

Stix also isn't a good boss

but Stix barely has hands at this point

[nova marsh]

Like I don't even think it does the concept of a slots boss that well

[dim basalt]

I dont think it can get worse than Stix for me

But I havent seen bandit yet so

[swift crown]

If you have fun being useful

strap in for Bandit

[void bay]

yeah bandit is my least favourite boss after junk

most of the others are pretty good

[nova marsh]

Granted....bandit being pure rng shoulds really bad

Idk I'm crazy

[smoky kayak]

difficult to make it both random and punishing without people raging over the RNG

[nova marsh]

Very true

We don't want to repeat coven for example

[hot cypress]

Spec feels rng too tbh, sometimes overpower resets like crazy and the tier sets is popping off and juggernaut stacks never fall off, next pull I get 0 resets and do zdps

[nova marsh]

I mean wow has always had rng in its class design

[hot cypress]

Yes but losing all my juggernaut stacks right before going into execute is pure pain

[tacit crystal]

yeah

but its what you signed up for bud

[hot cypress]

Or having a couple seconds left on juggernaut and debating whether or not to bladestorm or trying to get a sudden death proc aaa

[nova marsh]

Loosing all your juggie stacks and having rng is part of class fantasy guys

Cuz it makes you rage irl!

[dim basalt]

In S3 col surely takes over for ST

[tacit crystal]

[smoky kayak]

there will always be some, but on the whole, the impact of RNG on Arms is below average
and Fury's is practically at the floor

[nova marsh]

Yeah ar least we aren't like outlaw or s1 enhance

Yikes that rng was bad

[manic stirrup]

rng on arms feels worse than it mathematically is

if that makes sense

[dim basalt]

s1 enhance wasnt that bad

[tacit crystal]

hi choco

[manic stirrup]

you feel like you get fucked but its super fine

sup gio

[nova marsh]

It felt that bad

Don't roll lighting wolves? Gg get fucked

[dim basalt]

It wasnt bad without good rng but good rng made dps go through the roof

[tacit crystal]

just dont track wolves

[hot cypress]

Maybe rng doesn't effect overall dps but it feels like every global I need to keep my eyes glued to my WAs because any number of things could proc, like I never know what I'm going to press 2 globals from now because of procs yknow

[tacit crystal]

could play with sd wa

realistically you could just mash ms > op and stare at if you need to press sd

ignore rage moment

[nova marsh]

We pay attention to rage now?

[tacit crystal]

if i get 4 ebs yeah

[nova marsh]

Oh fuck yall run eb

That's based

[dim basalt]

Proccing lots of eb is satisfying and horrifying at the same time

[nova marsh]

On one hand your damage fucks

On the other you just lost all your rage

[hot cypress]

It's fine our bleeds give us rage

[wintry arch]

I have never once run dry on rage I’m not sure if I’m doing something right or wrong

[dim basalt]

You usually dont run dry

[shadow ibex]

its pretty difficult to do in raid when you have shaman buff

[dim basalt]

Proccing lots of eb is prob the only way outside of execute

[wintry arch]

Ok gotcha. And yeah I almost always have a skyfury in m+

[nova marsh]

I will give you my sky fury

[wintry arch]

What would you guys drop in m+ if you really wanted massacre?

[shadow ibex]

i wouldnt really want massacre

[wintry arch]

I feel like EP without massacre is a waste

But I love ep

[tacit crystal]

execute is just dead on colossus

[dim basalt]

The chance of proccing 4x EB in a row is 0.16%

lmao

[tacit crystal]

mad?

[dim basalt]

I expected a low number but not that low

[shadow ibex]

not really worth investing in exe talents as colossus

you need like 5 of them to make it do more dmg than a slam

[tacit crystal]

isnt it (1/5)^4

[dim basalt]

ye

[tacit crystal]

w

[dim basalt]

Im pretty sure I had a 5x recently

Which is 0.03%

[wintry arch]

So I’m just griefing with blade masters and EP. I’m gonna try and get out of that habit when I do dungeons

[dim basalt]

EP is not necessarily grief

[quaint otter]

Blademasters is good

Ep not so much

[dim basalt]

Can run EP in top

At least

But warlords >>> blademasters for sure (in terms of feeling)

[shadow ibex]

blademasters is good

warlord lets me feel like big brain man cuz i delay the avatar cast a bit inside WB to get reck buff on demo

https://tenor.com/view/jambajew-steve-brule-kiss-gif-18457145

[amber hull]

Blade is great for big pull dungeons, feels like ass on TOP or like workshop

or just doesn't feel as good I should say

First pull of brewery? my god

[dim basalt]

Just makes it harder to line a big CD with (avatar +) wb

[shadow ibex]

i cba to pay more than 1 second of attention to CD

i delay it if WB and demo are coming up in like 3 globals and even then its only if i have a sweeping up and running so i can actually do dam with MS only

but otherwise i think thats just bait and feels

[quasi torrent]

if u wanna play m+ seriously just reroll anyway frfr

[tacit crystal]

hi anda

did you see that mage

he should be banned for noob

[muted tree]

quick question , is it worth to craft something this week when i can fully upg my muthic items?

is it like a waste of gilded crests

[tacit crystal]

depends and what you can craft/upgrade

[minor gust]

Gio

GIo

GIo

[tacit crystal]

glo

gloo

i like that song

[minor gust]

ive upset the pvp crowd with my truth

[tacit crystal]

what did you do

[muted tree]

this is me rn

[minor gust]

all I said only people with mental disabilities pvp in wow still

[tacit crystal]

i think all the high rated players know that

lol

[muted tree]

i dont know what to craft

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/twisting-nether/ntaxdirdis/

for better inspection

[minor gust]

the answer is simple friend

[tacit crystal]

could just send wrist boot belt

[minor gust]

you either hold your craft for a potential myth wep so you can swap to double dusk or just craft a low item lvl piece for short term power gain

[tacit crystal]

nah i dumped all of my gilded crests

https://tenor.com/bM5j6.gif

[minor gust]

you 670 like me yet GIO

its really easy to get!

[tacit crystal]

i took tier hands from coc even though i cant fully upgrade

@reef glade

uh

dont know

[muted tree]

guess imm hold the craft

need to upg my bis mythics

[wintry arch]

Yo what axe is that

[muted tree]

from mop timewalking

[wintry arch]

Ty

[muted tree]

korkron themed items in general

there are shoulders and tabard too

garrosh FTW

[light dirge]

The corruption enchanted are going to be less than 1% increase?

Twilight devastion sounding epic but hitting like a cold shower on a warm summer morning is just sending me to orbit

[shadow ibex]

its just a way to nerf the content

[minor gust]

Yeah it seems like they're missing the mark on the old corruption coming back. Shit was only well liked because it was broken

[shadow ibex]

you already get like what 18% dmg or w/e from renown

[minor gust]

But is what it is I'll take a free 1% overall increase.

[light dirge]

I see your point for sure. But damn

[minor gust]

I just hope to God twilight dev is fixed to not pull mobs that aren't in combat

I remember that happening a lot in BFA

[light dirge]

Oh yeah lol.. it sucks to feel like downgraded from a 50 bmg to a nerf gun

But oh well

[tacit crystal]

piss off the pvpers again

i cant do it because i joined them for a bit

@astral talon come back to pve

[minor gust]

I did love how they thought pvp doesnt affect pve at all

[tacit crystal]

[astral talon]

?

fam im #protection now

im gone

[tacit crystal]

bro

wtf

[astral talon]

also unsubbed

[minor gust]

It's obvious class design takes pvp into account or we would have our fucking spell reflect on intervene

[tacit crystal]

like @boreal quartz

except hes still subbed

[astral talon]

ye

guild stopped raiding cuz we didnt have enough ppl for mythic

and we didnt rly wanna play hc constantly cuz its too easy to tryhard it

[minor gust]

Gio I finally got a grp to push keys with time to get title this season

[tacit crystal]

surely it doesnt collapse

[quaint otter]

[minor gust]

Surely

[tacit crystal]

surely you come paly with me and swordish

dragindeez + uh

[astral talon]

xd

i could tank you a key i guess xD

[tacit crystal]

bro you are eu

[astral talon]

oh

ye that's 20% tariff for you then

[minor gust]

I activated my trap card counter tariff

[naive breach]

[minor gust]

[astral talon]

oh no now we both lose

5head gameplay

[minor gust]

Big brain

[naive breach]

maybe its time to go PROT

live the good life

[minor gust]

Don't do it!

[tacit crystal]

i want to play aug again

[naive breach]

not sniping rogue/bm groups to get into 14/15 keys

[minor gust]

Once you go to tank jail you never come back

[naive breach]

wtfff

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/squirt-bottle-squirting-face-funny-gif-16000698

[naive breach]

so let me ask you a question

m+ house of cards > eye of pepega ?

or both

both seems kinda greed

[tacit crystal]

unless your tank is chain pulling perma

hoc

and even then hoc would be good with kezan

[minor gust]

Eye is bad for keys good for long raid fights

[tacit crystal]

its fun

[flat willow]

Eye is the worst piece of crap I ever saw

[naive breach]

i dont have it and i didint check how fast it loses stacks tbh

[sleek fractal]

Fast af

[minor gust]

It loses stacks very quickly

[naive breach]

coin patch comes in like 2 weeks or

[flat willow]

I'd rather stick with my can of RedBull trinket

[minor gust]

And builds them pretty slow

[flat willow]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-stephen-a-smith-gif-13112895

[naive breach]

little house little bis

gaming

[flat willow]

And while we talk about it, may aug evoker never see the light of day again

[tacit crystal]

aug was not the problem

it was disc

[naive breach]

fuck dargens

[flat willow]

With aug out of the picture, dps get 50% more room to find keys

I dont care what healer is meta, I'm already forced to tank 90% of my keys. When aug is allowed to exist that goes up to 100%

Delete evoker

[naive breach]

^

[boreal hawk]

its possible to reach 10 stack of colossal might during the very first demolish in the opener?

[tacit crystal]

in aoe or st

[boreal hawk]

aoe

[tacit crystal]

yeah it is

[flat willow]

Quite easily

[boreal hawk]

im following the wowhead opener and i can reach only 4

before throwing out demolish

[tacit crystal]

what is your opener you are doing

[minor gust]

If your following the opener you should be getting 10 stacks

[boreal hawk]

https://prnt.sc/riQm7spW3UQ3

[minor gust]

Spam cleave and MS as much as you can till your at 10 stacks

[tacit crystal]

you have be not doing somehting

do you have a log

[minor gust]

Oh the picture part doesn't show it but you need to be pressing multiple cleaves and mortal strikes before you demolish

You won't get 10 stacks with just 1 cleave

[dusk crystal]

Have you guys ever used spell reflect before getting knocked back from sprocket? It seemed it launched me farther and off the edge

[tacit crystal]

it just assuming you keep building

[minor gust]

Has nothing to do with spell reflect if you gate to early or aren't positioned correctly you will get knocked off

[tacit crystal]

be me taking gate early and dying like a chud

[dusk crystal]

Yeah it wasnt a gate

[boreal hawk]

no because i play from geforce now

cant log

[dusk crystal]

But maybe standing 1/2 yard from my team just launched me farther

https://www.twitch.tv/sk_jerbo/clip/CourteousAbrasiveGrassDxAbomb-Lf4GPPRJ9nbbfp2m

Video for context

[boreal quartz]

17 days

[tacit crystal]

13 days

[dim basalt]

That looks hella weird

I just play it safe by using leap tbh

I believe this triggered SR

[dusk crystal]

The only reason I brought up spell reflect is because you can hear the sound of it getting consumed

Oh interesting

[dim basalt]

But just an assumption, its so delayed no clue

[minor gust]

yeah looks weird but that one is also an annoying spot to get right you can also just play it safe and get launched with the red ranged and just leap to the boss

[dusk crystal]

Sounds good. Thanks for looking at it

[slim sinew]

I feel like im missing someting, why do we craft a sword instead of an axe when the axe give more top end dmg and same speed?

[dim basalt]

All types deal the same damage

[quasi torrent]

normalised

doesnt matter

u craft what is cheapest

[slim sinew]

ah okay, thanks

[deft bluff]

rawdogging arms on reclear is kinda fun

[dapper juniper]

guys wich use start with cd??? and should i use another one with another cd or just on cs?

[sacred zodiac]

press cards with avatar and bis on cd or with cs it doesnt really matter

just dont press bis <20s left on avatar cd

[smoky kayak]

the bigger buff always goes first

[compact geyser]

im swappign off ascension + writhing today for double threads. wowhead says to go crit but the bloodmallet gearset is using vers. which is the correct one i dont want to recraft again if possible

[weak wave]

when was this buffed?

[boreal quartz]

PvP talent enabled?

[thick kelp]

Anspornender Schrei

[teal fossil]

ok but like

you cant expect us to know what this is

im assuming this is rally

3 minute 40 meters

[wintry arch]

Sim

[compact geyser]

thats what im doing

[wintry arch]

Smart man

[tacit crystal]

stosst einen anspornenden schrei aus, der die aktuelle und maximale gesundheit aller gruppen- und schlachtzugsmitglieder innerhalb von 40 metern fur 14,2 sek. um 14% erhoht

@boreal quartz

[weak wave]

ahh yes..

[outer hill]

which WA pack are u guys using for M+s?

[quaint otter]

only collosal counter

[weak wave]

TWW Dungeons (https://wago.io/twwdungeons)

[devout pewter]

quick weapon question: best in slots on hero (probably not gonna get on myth unless from vault maybe?) or crafted weapon on max ilvl without embellishment?

I think 675 is highest craft? sim says craft is way better, but wanted to ask in case the sim doesn't calc the weapon correct for some reason

[compact geyser]

675 crafted is only beating out by mythic BIS by .4 %

[devout pewter]

So I guess just crafting the weapon, even without embellishments, is far better

[compact geyser]

it is

[devout pewter]

then the sim is correct too, crafted is ~37k above the hero version of bis

[compact geyser]

i have both 675 crafted and heroic BIS and the crafted with dbl dawnthread is beating the heroic BIS

always trust the robot

[devout pewter]

trusting the overload

[sand summit]

Hey guys, how do we sim for mythic? pathwork 5bosses 5min? dungeon slice? help! :p

mythic+*

[devout pewter]

Just sim for Single Target and go from there

[minor gust]

st patchwork into 5t and make a decision what you wanna prio

[lament ridge]

Quick question. Was watching Critcake's vod review for another arms warrior and he was talking about multiple instances where you'd have to make a decision about holding your collateral damage stacks (i.e., not cleaving with them ASAP) if ravager is close'ish to coming off cooldown. Is there a general CD amount of ravager where it's worth holding onto your stacks so you can benefit from the overlap?

[teal fossil]

probably less than 3 gcds lol

[olive nest]

What does a 12 stack collateral hit for on average without ravager?

I think the idea is if you could wait 2-3 cleave casts (time wise) to get a giant collateral + rav cleave for like 40-60M it’s probably worth waiting

Anymore than that and it’s probably less overall but I’m just hypothetically speaking

[lament ridge]

This is exactly the type of giant cleaves he was showing in his own vod, but yeah I have no idea how long you'd want to hold those collateral damage stacks for and just farm CD for ravager.

Like it definitely makes sense if it's just 2-3 GCDs, but what about more than that?

[olive nest]

I think you really have to just make a decision on the fly based on target count, mob health, cooldown remaining on ravager etc

[wintry arch]

Does anyone upgrade heroic chest to 6/6?

[teal fossil]

this is just a math question

[olive nest]

I think it’s a hard thing to have an exact rule for

[teal fossil]

and its too variable

[olive nest]

You can yeah if you don’t have better items to put crests into

You can top gear sim your crests to see what gives the most dps for you with your current gear

[wintry arch]

Oh interesting I’ve never done that

[olive nest]

At the top there’s a button that says something like “max upgrade all selected that’s affordable” or something like that

[quasi field]

yo

wtf is wrong with mugzee

charging to boss during intermission after he stands still

and game just puts me on the other side or under him

and kills me

[minor gust]

as some people have already mentioned 10 sec or 2-3 globals is a good idea but theres really no hard rule on this as it depends entirely on the state of your cds and the current mobs you are fighting. All of this is just gonna come from experience playing the game and you will slowly start to get the feel of when you should hold collateral or when you should build it up for the next pack

[ruby frost]

hi guys, need help

[molten marsh]

if you also have warbreaker coming back holding is the way

[ruby frost]

14 floodgate ( 2min 1sec left)

clearly im clicking something wrong

[molten marsh]

#1347646810457636974 post a log there

[ruby frost]

oh, okey next time ill log 🙂

[molten marsh]

for sure, yeah without logs we cant really help you

but you can also just look in your details and compare it to high ranking warriors on warcraftlogs to see where youre missing damage

[random ibex]

hmmmm

[ruby frost]

i noticed, for some reason, my MS damage either higher or equal to Demolish damage

sometimes sweeping strikes 3-4 sec cd when demolish+warbreaker ready

and often in pug tank run away mid cast demolish KEKW

[molten marsh]

this can happen in lower target dungeons like top

so whatever dungeon you did you search the same one on warcraftlogs to compare

[dim basalt]

I think top is the only dungeon where that can happen

[ruby frost]

got u, will check on next

[ruby frost]

i have bad news, it was ML and Floodgate 😢

[dim basalt]

I guess ML is also a maybe

Depending on how you pull

[twin hazel]

So i don't have cleave ATM will my DMG increase if I grab it?

Slayer build

[minor gust]

gonna need a lil more context than that

[hexed snow]

Mythic Plus? Raid? Questing?

[copper summit]

-.- pls tell me i dont have to do the 100 titan disc fragments to get my spark

[minor gust]

takes like 5 min solo

[rough sluice]

ok we wont tell you

[copper summit]

tf you do to do it in 5mins

[minor gust]

spam first boss stonevault until im at 100

[copper summit]

oh didnt know u can do that lol normal heroic mythic?

[rough sluice]

follower dungeon

can leave and reque any time no penalty

[gray steeple]

Stonevault on follower, kill first boss, leave and repeat

[potent fossil]

so im trying to tighten up my rotaysh, i'm comparing my parses to other arms woyers who are way better at the game than i, one thing i'm noticing is that among the highest level brakcets, they have juggernaut up nearly 100% of the time

but im having the issue where i'm not able to refresh juggernaut sometimes bc execute isn't coming up, is there a trick to keeping juggernaut up more often?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hQycn4PNGLXB2jVa?fight=8&type=damage-done&source=22

here's a heroic rik reverb log from like half an hour ago for context

[serene hollow]

there are weakauras for execute conditionals, ie when should you actually press execute

otherwise, it's luck based if you are comparing to the best parses

[potent fossil]

what's a good one?

[serene hollow]

also rik reverb has guaranteed down time, you are 100% going to drop juggernaut on rik during the down phase

[stone saffron]

It will drop on rik unless you do some degen parse hunting during intermission with leap charge and intervene

[potent fossil]

I've made two weak auras for myself that just tracks in for the kill and the other one idr the name of

this icon

[serene hollow]

I'm not online, but I think you can search wago for arms execute conditionals

[potent fossil]

ok will check it out, ty

[smoky kayak]

do it w/ the 3x delve quest, knock them both out at the same time

[smoky kayak]

fwiw, you don't really need to track IFTK or Test of Might

[potent fossil]

well tbf i made bc i was strugglin to big aoe pump in M+ and wanted to try to maximize my demos

currently im in slayer bc that's the raid spec, the WA is just there bc idk how to make it only show if i have it

[ebon solstice]

Hey guys, new to the discord and have a question. I'm ilvl 655 and picked up a couple rings this week. Heroic Faded Championship Ring and Heroic Jastor Diamond - I ran sims on Raidbot and it says to replace Circlet with Jastor but every BiS list says keep Circlet. Are sims broken or do I replace the Circlet?

[potent fossil]

jastor and cyrce ring is best but you have to make sure your gems are good for cyrce

this what i have

[ebon solstice]

No matter what gems I sim, it says to replace it

[grand idol]

Make sure to select gems, and tell it to replace for Cyrce's. If you select nothing it will empty out the ring.

[ebon solstice]

Ok, I'll double check those settings

[grand idol]

Though, those are quite good rings. It is entirely likely that you could be replacing it.

[ebon solstice]

Yeah, it seems like the play is to replace it. No matter what options I select, it says use the two heroic rings.

[grand idol]

well, jastors is amazing no surprise there haha

I wouldn't have though a heroic ring would replace it but I guess crit is that good.

[ebon solstice]

ty vault for coming through with that one

[outer holly]

does the exe conditional WA work for both arms and fury?