arms

[swift crown]

gz lil guy

[quasi torrent]

if ure below me in p2 dps

ure noober

hard r

[swift crown]

So youre saying

[quasi torrent]

yes

i am

[slow saddle]

Demo

Slapper

[misty sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/piushdoll-gif-23312168

[olive nest]

[quasi torrent]

mugzee 😎

[tacit crystal]

combust

[quasi torrent]

i am kicking da boss

[eager sigil]

pissweaver gaming

[wintry arch]

Ur not crazy fellow arms gamer

[shadow ibex]

dead dead dead

[zenith lodge]

whats the reason for not running berserker shout? is it because its not worth the talent points or because theres no need for it

[shadow ibex]

i dont think there's a single use case for it in pve this entire season

[swift crown]

The only use I can think of is if you miss the Candle King kick but...

just dont miss it?

[shadow ibex]

yea thats probably gg

you probabyl wouldnt even break out the party

just you and tank maybe

[storm prism]

Won't lie I was playing prot and we missed kick in DFC and berserker shout saved the key lol

Prob deserved to brick for greeding last few percent in all honesty but we gaem

[naive breach]

just dont kick

dont live in fear

[smoky kayak]

kinda combination of factors

• as the questionable buff said, there's no important use for it in current dungeons - note that only the fear break is party-wide, the incap part is purely personal
• even if there was, there are almost always other ways around the fear - for example, Atal'Dazar dino can be LoS'd, Tremor exists, etc
• even when there aren't, dungeon fears usually aren't that debilitating on purpose, because they don't want to create a comp requirement that you have to have a fear break to succeed within a dungeon - for example, the first boss of Mists

On top of all that, the ability itself has some notable restrictions

• unlike Berserker Rage, it can't be used preemptively, only reactively - it only breaks fear, without immuning it, so no matter what your party is getting feared for at least a moment
• it has a relatively small area of effect, which means your ranged players need to move in or they won't be affected anyway (also means if they're on the edge of the effect, the immediate fear movement may cause them to run out of it before being broken)
• it costs a talent point, which means losing some amount of personal damage or defense in order to take something that you might only use once a key - this is the same reason we don't often take Wrecking Throw, despite the occasional shielded dungeon mob

[shadow ibex]

someone will kick surely

[storm prism]

all fun n games until everyone thinks that same thing at the same time

[zenith lodge]

sounds like a pretty dead talent for pve

[smoky kayak]

I'm not saying there aren't places it could potentially be used, but spending a whole talent point for something you might use once a dungeon is just not very efficient

[storm prism]

I run it in DFC pugs for the exact reason you think

[smoky kayak]

and Blizzard isn't going to make any fear effects so debilitating that you need to have it, because that creates a whole new design problem

if our Class tree looked more like Shaman, with a lot of free points to spend on shit you'll never use, then yeah we would probably take it "just in case", but the fact that you have to give something up first makes it a non-starter for most people

[shadow ibex]

wait till you see the choice nodes in the spec tree

[smoky kayak]

there are unfortunately a lot of ideas like that, which sound good on paper but don't make a practical difference in reality

like Shattering Throw, Wrecking Throw, Storm Shield, Int Shout and its follow-on talents, even lowering the cooldown of Pummel is a lot less useful in practice than it sounds like it should be

[minor gust]

buff wrecking throw already

[smoky kayak]

they actually are

[minor gust]

when?

[bleak fog]

Help! Seen some ppl use a addon or something that make the pictures under the Mythic+ tab like a portalbutton.. What is that?

[smoky kayak]

in 14.5

[minor gust]

oh same time as the arms rework then

makes sense

[smoky kayak]

I'm kidding, it's buffed in 11.1.5

[minor gust]

how much is the buff?

will it actually do usefull dmg

[shadow ibex]

it'll be worth the global

on an absorb at least

right now you're better off pressing a button instead of throwing it at an absorb

it probably beats out a slam on retail specifically vs an absorb but its probably pretty close tbh

if it doesnt outright lose

[minor gust]

I hope its enough to beat out every other button like MS and OP if its just a slightly better slam on absorbs im gonna be upset

[smoky kayak]

On the PTR, it hits harder than an unbuffed Rampage, almost twice as strong as Arms' Slam, and about 80% of a Mortal Strike

[minor gust]

hmm sounds like it needs to be buffed more then thats pretty lame

[teal fossil]

yeah

[minor gust]

its not like it something that will always be used

[smoky kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/wong-wong-marvel-gif-24623467

[teal fossil]

i think in shadowlands its like 300% of a MS

from what i remember

[smoky kayak]

I don't think you realize how strong that is lmao

[teal fossil]

but you also had to channel it

so yeah

[minor gust]

yeah but its a niche

its only useable on absorbs

[smoky kayak]

this is mortal strike

[minor gust]

it should be stronger than an MS

[smoky kayak]

this is wrecking throw

I think you're not realizing what I'm saying lol

[minor gust]

oh

[shadow ibex]

they should just give us demolition

[fresh spire]

was buffed from like 105k to 710k in 662 gear

[smoky kayak]

it's fucking massive

[fresh spire]

pretty chunky

[minor gust]

your talking about base dmg

[teal fossil]

oh like baseline 80% of a mortal

yeah

i got here late

[minor gust]

MB i thought you were already factoring in the 500%

[smoky kayak]

in fact, it seems like they over buffed it, which is why I'm not making hay out of it until we find out if the value is actually intended (in pve) or not

[minor gust]

thats actually fine yeah

[teal fossil]

yeah same

then yeah 80% of a ms is def too much

[fresh spire]

insane for gallywix pull for mythic shield at start 😄

[teal fossil]

idk why they would tune the base damage instead of the modifier

unless they want us to use it in rotation lol

[teal fossil]

also since wrecking ignores armor doesnt that make wrecking hit as hard as MS in practice

[minor gust]

yeah wrecking throw is pretty strong but I dont think its a big deal the use case is still pretty niche

[teal fossil]

because armor is 30% reduction

[smoky kayak]

I mean I did complain at them for a long time that it was so poor - even on raid bosses w/ shields, you typically only get to use it once or twice, so although it feels like a chunky hit, it ends up being maybe 1% of your damage, which isn't a very good use of a talent point (much less two in the case of Wrecking Throw)

[minor gust]

wrecking throw on raz

good times

[smoky kayak]

It was only good on Raz and Tindral because of the massive damage amp

[minor gust]

yeah

[smoky kayak]

if you adjust for the damage amp, it's still like 1% of your dam (lil more on Raz since you get to use it 2 or 3 times)

and consider that we now spend two talent points to get to it means its even less efficient to talent into

[somber lance]

i'm simming 2.18m as fury thane and 2m as colossus. sound correct? guess it's close to 10% diff

for 5m 1target

[zenith lodge]

would it be a good idea to massively increase the dmg wrecking throw does to shields and increase the cooldown?

[smoky kayak]

I mean... that depends on how "massively" we're talking

[minor gust]

1000% increase lets go 😛

diablo 3 numbers time

[zenith lodge]

not sure about numbers, but alot more then 1% of dmg done

[smoky kayak]

kinda goes back to our same conversation about Beserker Shout - it sounds like a cool idea, I get to totally BLAST shields
except then you end up in this situation where you have to have a Warrior to do that job, which introduces a comp problem

[zenith lodge]

dont you always bring a warr for battle shout in raid atleast

[smoky kayak]

not always a DPS War

and not always to M+

[dim basalt]

On Stix you can ignore warrior entirely

[smoky kayak]

ignore yours maybe, I'm top 3 dam on that fight!

[dim basalt]

I just go full ST on that fight

Because we have enough ranged to deal with adds

[smoky kayak]

(my guild severely lacks ranged cleave classes, its a serious problem on Bandit lmao)

[dim basalt]

thats rip ye

We played Stix with only 2 melees

[minor gust]

warrior isnt useless on stix cuz thane fury exists

[dim basalt]

Who also just pads on hyenas?

[minor gust]

bombs and scrapmasters exist

[smoky kayak]

hey if I don't kill them, they kill our boomkin, so not pad

[zenith lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-marvel-meme-what-heroes-do-gif-14703930

[dim basalt]

At first we also ran with a ret who can bop our boomkin when needed

[hollow plover]

we didnt kill sprocket tonight

3 hours of no kill

Sadge

[minor gust]

if it makes you feel any better we didnt kill last night either

was very disappointing

[hollow plover]

😭

[minor gust]

barely any prog 26% best pull

[sacred zodiac]

we didnt kill either

[minor gust]

[hollow plover]

my group played kinda well i felt

except that the beam + magnet combo somehow caused like 20 wipes

ranged greeding casts every time

[sacred zodiac]

(we extended)

[minor gust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/780377679227650079/1143175175391674418/Viberge.gif

[hollow plover]

[sacred zodiac]

extending is correct

you should probably extend after lockenstock

[eager sigil]

yea loot from first 5 is ass anyway

[chrome sky]

Hey all, wondering why it's recommended to use sweeping before ravager. does sweeping affect the mortal strikes from ravager?

[latent moss]

no

but it saves a global

during mbg

u dont want to waste globals during important buffs

well technically ss isnt a full global but ye

[reef glade]

dam i be puttin ravager down b4 sweep...

[latent moss]

:xdd:

[reef glade]

so what clap > roar > sweep > rav > wb > blast

i guess maybe 1 more mbg'd cleave feelsbad -1 collat global

[latent moss]

clap > roar > sweep > wb > rav > blast

1 gcd of mbg > 1 gcd of cs

[reef glade]

oh nah not the wb rav

😭

man ravager sucks

[daring heron]

wb rav order is interchangeable imo

i'll just do whatever the situation calls for

[reef glade]

my brain says ravager is poopy ability and 50% cleave be damned i want to hit real buttons during wb

[daring heron]

technically it's wb rav for aoe, and rav wb for st

[shadow ibex]

rav before WB so the iftk haste doesnt make rav faster and so lose uptime on mbg

[daring heron]

wb rav is like 15k ahead in a 5t sim

so it's whatever really

i assume that's the sim you ran anyway @fresh spire

[reef glade]

5head

[fresh spire]

rav before wb

rav in wb

[daring heron]

oh thats the tabard from end of tbc

[fresh spire]

ive used it since the day i got it 😄

[daring heron]

i member

[fresh spire]

always loved it

[daring heron]

ya its nice

[fresh spire]

back when blizzard actually cared about tabards 😦

so much room to make some really interesting ones yet feel we get next to none now

[quasi torrent]

@daring heron why fury on OAB 😠

[daring heron]

bomba

[quasi torrent]

bro got boosted in p2 jesus

[daring heron]

i died

[quasi torrent]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cYmDkj7GJTgA2KzV?fight=25&playermetric=dps&type=damage-done&phase=2&target=58

look this

[fresh spire]

holy

[quasi torrent]

doing next tier dps

[fresh spire]

executer man

[daring heron]

u guys have 2 windwalkers

[fresh spire]

how it feels playing warrior going into a tier strong to get nerfed before

[daring heron]

ig they blow up bombs

[quasi torrent]

silly bombas

[fresh spire]

Prot warrior stocks up

[daring heron]

ye we have 0 ww

[quasi torrent]

he spears them 👑

usually deneroc pipes them more

[fresh spire]

actual king

[quasi torrent]

guess he got shit procs or smth

[fresh spire]

probs good you said that, can ask our tank to run spear

spear -> demolish as prot holy critter man

prot demolish unironically hits hard

[quasi torrent]

they dont stay in place

cause theyre cc immune ye

but its dam

[fresh spire]

more upfront than roar

we got 1 ww

hes pretty chad too so hoping he giga blasts

[quasi torrent]

affli sub udk ret

are all good too

affli only if they spend cds on it tho i think

[fresh spire]

We got 1 ret 1 dk 1 sub 1 affi

2 priests

maybe 2 dev

[quaint otter]

🔥 🐲

[latent moss]

2d chest pieces

worst thing ever

big ass shoulders

then some random ahh 2d chest

😡

[minor gust]

Loved the coaching vid btw Crit reminds me I should start recording myself and doing vod reviews now that im actually pushing keys

[grim dagger]

General question, during aoe opener why is colossus smash used after all your cds (except demolish) is getting the full damage of ravager+initial damage of roar not worth it for the damage increase?

[minor gust]

the intial dmg of those skills dont matter. You wanna maximize your globals inside your cd windows

[sand yew]

I was watching Critcake's coaching vid and I couldnt find what the reviewee's combat text add on was, does anyone here know?

[somber geyser]

demolish big number 😩

[minor gust]

zephUI highlighter WA

[sand yew]

Thanks! Do you know if you have to remove any combat text add ons for this to work?

[minor gust]

its a WA so probably not

[barren void]

Is the arms and fury execute weak aura the same? The one that shines with sudden death when conditions are met

[minor gust]

theres two different versions for both

both should be somewhere in here https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715

[barren void]

ty

[south frigate]

Is it better to push keys as fury or arms ?

[minor gust]

depends what your group comp needs Arms = more aoe Fury = better prio and more ST while also be substantially more tanky

[daring grove]

hey guys arms is pretty fine spec for high keys right?

[twilit crater]

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-worms-worthless-hercules-gif-5914662

Thank you my king @quasi torrent

[quasi torrent]

what

[latent moss]

its really good

[quaint otter]

the 0.0000001% minmax

(worse than dwarf)

[daring grove]

worth to craft a good 2h weapon?

[quaint otter]

yes if u dont have myth track one

[daring grove]

i dont have

[quaint otter]

did u do 10th keys?

[daring grove]

yea

this week

[quaint otter]

wait for vault then

[daring grove]

shall i wait

okay

[quaint otter]

so if u drop a weapon in vault ull get 2 675 crafts

[daring grove]

yea instead of a wasted 2 sparks

if its not in vualt i go weapon craft right

[quaint otter]

yeah most likely

[daring grove]

Just got eye of kezan trinket out of weekly timewalkin quest is it good for us

[quaint otter]

in m+ most likely not

[daring grove]

And raids

[quaint otter]

For 5+ mins fight ig?

[remote ledge]

You can sim 2-3-4-5min and see from what point eye becomes better

[grand idol]

A normal one is fine. Many delve trinkets will be more worthwhile in anything but the longest raid encounters.

[shadow ibex]

Tomorrow I replace NM kezan with cards for sure

[minor gust]

I believe

im hoping for another Myth wep tomorrow since I skipped last weeks myth wep in vault due to not having sparks to craft

[tacit crystal]

if i see another mythic weapon

im going toc rash out

[quasi torrent]

ok

[remote ledge]

On god

I'm starting to have too many of them

[nova marsh]

man fuck yall

"My luck's so good I get all myth track weapons!"

MUST BE NICE

[quasi torrent]

i have myth wep on 2 chars oki

i only play 2 chars too ofc

[nova marsh]

two warriors?

[quasi torrent]

no

warrior and monk

monk has myth weps for mw and ww ofc

[tacit crystal]

be me when i took bis then m weapon next week

[quasi torrent]

works for fury

[tacit crystal]

yeah but im mad

grr

i lost a vault

[quasi torrent]

if u crafted it's not very useful

but if u didn't its fine

[tacit crystal]

das wat i did

so i lsot

[quasi torrent]

nooba

[silk spade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1341410531180806214/pQG30.gif

[quasi torrent]

7

only got 97on bandit

I'm noob

[shadow ibex]

i also skipped myth weap

football ring has mast for colossus big numero tho

[quaint otter]

skipping myth weapon for secondaries

[remote ledge]

Never craft a 2H thinking it's unlikely 2 weeks in a row a weapon would be the only pick in your vault

[nova marsh]

ha you fool

I'm an enhance main now lmafo

It's even worse because now I'm stuck with Mug'Zee weap

[shadow ibex]

Like 7 weapons counting Stix

One ring

https://tenor.com/view/sda-frodo-invisible-invisível-disappear-gif-15643308039803844948

[minor gust]

yee if you already have a crafted wep myth wep prio isnt that high if you have another good option in vault

I took a myth track helm over a myth wep because I already have a crafted wep and I didnt have the sparks to craft double dusk

[shadow ibex]

Weapon was probably the play since I play fury Stix and rik but meh we extend soon I assume so won't be seeing them

So actually it wasn't

[minor gust]

idk fury OH dps is w/e aswell if the ring was really good I woulda taken that

[remote ledge]

Weapon was the only option, I had 2 stinkers

[shadow ibex]

Yea true

The mh would gain 3 ilvl and oh whatever max heroic to max crafted is

[minor gust]

yee

[shadow ibex]

But we get to bandit tn surely

I assume guilds extend after sprocket ye?

[minor gust]

probably

still depends on your raids gear

[rugged lily]

we prolly gonna extend yea

waytoo much time lost to redown stix and sprocket

reclearing end heroic is better tbh

[shadow ibex]

I'm just a trial so idk everyone gear but idt anything great from first few

[rugged lily]

HoC, BiS, kezan, jastor

[shadow ibex]

Yea

[rugged lily]

playing colossus on bandit seems so weird to me

do y'all keep demolish for fixating adds or just cleaving add + boss ?

[minor gust]

I wouldnt know were still stuck on sprocket

[rugged lily]

x)

for ppl who progged on it

what makes you feel like colossus is better than slayer

[shadow ibex]

Slayer has bad aoe

And worse 2t

[rugged lily]

u sure bout that ?

feels like bladestorm giving 3 mortal strikes on both is huge isn't it ?

[shadow ibex]

It doesn't sweep

[rugged lily]

k its bad

[shadow ibex]

And colossus is sweeping buttons while BS does no dam

[rugged lily]

anyway i lag too much on this fight so

[shadow ibex]

The mortal strikes it cast do but so does ravager

[rugged lily]

playing slayer or colossus will make no diff XD

ok thanks

[minor gust]

colossus will have better 2t add dmg while slayer will have better boss dmg

will be depending on what your raid needs at the end of the day

[rugged lily]

adds dps

for sure

for prog

for kill myb slayer will see

[minor gust]

well see OAB is expected to get nerfs this week aswell

[remote ledge]

And if lacking bomb damage, you can play the man spec. Thane fury

[shadow ibex]

[sudden lagoon]

What % increase is arms 4 set?

[vernal pilot]

Is Tmy from Mal'Ganis?

[tacit crystal]

tmy is eu

TEAH UHMMMMMMMMMMM YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

@strange perch @latent moss

[hollow wave]

Demolish is fun, but I miss big fat bladestorm

[minor gust]

next patch surely has a big bladestorm buff coming

[rare kite]

big fat bladestorm he says xD. bladestorm hasn't been fat in a long time

[old kayak]

Bladestorm been on ozempic for a hot minute

[shadow ibex]

lmao

[edgy dew]

Is arms simpler than fury? I'm going to swap to arms after alot of years of fury under my belt

[minor gust]

both are pretty easy but most ppl find arms more difficult to learn than fury

[edgy dew]

Yea that was my experience last time I tried to teach myself, any recommendations? I'm just going to pull the trigger on it and really learn it

[minor gust]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715 Look at any of the guides in here and hit dummies till you got it down

[edgy dew]

I'm mostly a mythic plus player, is wowhead up to date with talent trees?

[minor gust]

the wowhead trees will work yes

[willow seal]

can anyone link to me any WA for the collateral damage stacks

[rare kite]

for m+ press cleave alot

[shadow ibex]

cleave MS OP 3+ targets
MS OP cleave 2 targets with sweeping up

if one resets itself use it until it doesnt

[nova marsh]

Warr brothers

how do yall coordinate kicks and CC in pugs?

besides just=....blow all 5 on one kick and let the healer eat shit on the next

[potent creek]

wait until 4 kicks are blowed and then use yours

or take the L

that's how pugs work

[shadow ibex]

you can spec for some kick cdr

[potent creek]

also if no kicks are available you can press shout for extra thiccness, sometimes it helps / stun and wave if possible for important stuff and not for general CC

[quiet bramble]

do you guys take slayer for delve?

[potent creek]

I take pillow into delve

[grand idol]

PUt on a shield and go prot for delves.

[quiet bramble]

oh...

[verbal inlet]

anyone else been using the lock n stock? ive been using it in 10-12 range, seeing it do almost 200m dmg overall.

most ive seen from a trinket

[bright basin]

On ST or AoE mode? or you switching it based on pull

[verbal inlet]

switching

[nova marsh]

Guys ya ever wonder

Whaf would happen of blizz ever put evrey dungeon ever made into a single season of m+

[shadow ibex]

diablo 4

[potent creek]

even in diablo 4 dungeon pool is limited

[slow saddle]

Ye but its stats are so low it better slap

[verbal inlet]

ya, missing the 5k str other trinks have is debateable

still, it feels fun to use :p

[hexed snow]

Yes

It do be proccing

[fair topaz]

Speaking of trinkets I really miss this bad boy. Seems perfect for a bursty colossus build

[rare kite]

We had that in DF, was pretty good

[sacred zodiac]

27 strength is not a lot

[fair topaz]

Give me this over that annoying music box any day

[sacred zodiac]

Puzzle Box my beloved

[dim basalt]

Better than 26 strength

[grand idol]

Thats 4 more str

[dim basalt]

holy shit 31 strength

[grand idol]

Now thats a trinket

[dim basalt]

Popping that with 15 stacks of jugg sounds satisfying

But we still wouldnt burst as hard as an unholy dk

[rare kite]

Puzzle box owned. Channel time wasn't Even that long for a 3m trinket

[balmy kindle]

32k strength on crit demolish

[nova marsh]

Yeah bevause udk is literally broken and needs a nerf

That's like comparing you to the bodybuilder on steroids

And by needs a nerf i mean the blood is life needs...somethin...that shit is wild

[balmy kindle]

The funny thing is saralyn was terrible on launch and previous tier set didn't really interact with it either

[nova marsh]

And now it's arguably made udk more gamba then s1 enhance

[balmy kindle]

But udk is only really good in m+ though

Raid wise it's still pretty dog shite

[zenith lodge]

without executioners preciosion in m+ talents, do you ever press execute?

[thick kelp]

as a filler in execute phase

[zenith lodge]

outside of execute phase?

same thing?

[thick kelp]

well cant really use execute outside of execute phase

[zenith lodge]

oh yeah forgor, no sudden death talent

[thick kelp]

Just treat it like slam

[zenith lodge]

okey, thanks

[tacit crystal]

how do i get better at slay the spire

[swift crown]

Pick good cards, play good cards

[tacit crystal]

i want to play but i cba buying it on my phone

[grand idol]

Not having played it deck thinning is almsot always good in deck builders.

[swift crown]

Yea removing is powerful

[heady shale]

Do you need to manually apply rend or is uptime enough from TC?

[balmy kindle]

In m+ clap would suffice, in ST you can still just use clap, rend is not a significant DPS increase

[dire hinge]

Lots of repeating runs until you get deck synergy, like Balatro 🙂‍↕️

[thick kelp]

repeating my rubs rn

[tacit crystal]

i hit 3014 on my uh

[dire hinge]

shakes fist at iPhone

[thick kelp]

gz broski

are u mdi competitor now

[tacit crystal]

i want to finish 14s this week

nah

i wonder what the title cutoff will be this season

i imagine somewhere near the same as last

[thick kelp]

Like all 16's and some 17's

[dim basalt]

Definitely higher

[thick kelp]

maybe 18's ?

hard to judge cuz its not even .5 patch yet

lots of tuning to come to keys

[tacit crystal]

last was like 3450

which was 16/17

[dim basalt]

Keys got a bit easier with the scaling changes

[thick kelp]

i would put my bet around 3.6k

[dim basalt]

So I expect +2 keylvl

[tacit crystal]

XDDDDD

[thick kelp]

corruption enchants coming too

[tacit crystal]

im going to explode then

[thick kelp]

and alot of dungeon nerfs prolly inc

[tacit crystal]

i need to catchup to others asap

[dim basalt]

I mean Im already running higher keys than last season and Im still like 11 ilvl away from max lol

[thick kelp]

yeah that too

678 being max ilvl

[dim basalt]

14s and 15s will prob be piss easy at max ilvl

[thick kelp]

and top teams are pushing 19's with like 665 gear

[tacit crystal]

i think the problem will be in 2 weeks if im not starting 15s

[thick kelp]

bludski its not even .5 yet

[tacit crystal]

yeah i want to get title

or i explode

remember

[dim basalt]

Might as well explode rn

[thick kelp]

You can get title even if u started gearing after .5

[dim basalt]

[tacit crystal]

1 key a day then

[thick kelp]

I mean yeah

if u can time a key a day

[dim basalt]

I wonder how strong the enchants will be

[thick kelp]

The strongest one is around 2.5%

for dks and warriors

[dim basalt]

Thats decent

[thick kelp]

which is just the stat corruption

[grizzled hare]

Okay still finding conflicting information on this and just want a clear answer...

Is Opportunist Overpower > Mortal Strike? WoW Analyzer admonishes me for delaying MS to use OP.
People in the Help and Log review say MS > OP with Opportunist
But the Wowhead guide says Opportunist OP > MS.

Also something I cannot find: Sudden Death Procs. How worth is it to try and minmax this over just using it when it's up? It's a lot to check the Marked for Execution stacks, Juggernaut duration, Timer and stacks.

[thick kelp]

Its a massive gain to minmax Sd

[tacit crystal]

me when i hokd jug for 2 minutes

before execute

[thick kelp]

opportunist op > MS if below 2 mp

[tacit crystal]

do you know if its worth to hold ava bs for gally intermission on heroic

[thick kelp]

and this WA minmaxes SD for you

https://wago.io/9n9GqeQ6-

[tacit crystal]

for adds

[thick kelp]

so you just press it when kaching

pre execute

[tacit crystal]

no i press when brain says to

[thick kelp]

idk

[grizzled hare]

Nabbing that. Much appreciated

[tacit crystal]

cone cone cone

[latent moss]

his bdg character is from malganis i think

back when he wasn't washed

[latent moss]

🐐 wa

[tacit crystal]

when do i press op in execute

is it only#arms message

[quasi torrent]

hate waffen krieger

[thick kelp]

Frappe morteille

[void bay]

Xkamsinkil li Huelga

[latent moss]

yes

[swift crown]

If BS always with Opp or over Exe when low rage

If Rav with Opp if less than 85 rage or over Exe when low rage

[tacit crystal]

me when i dont track op and just when i see the number go from 0 > 1

[swift crown]

Fucking hate Ravager

[swift crown]

Okay Chef get the WA

[tacit crystal]

bro

i dont like it

[swift crown]

I also hate doing damage but I am being forced to by Spongie

[tacit crystal]

it looks so out of place with atrocity

[swift crown]

He will explode if I don't outDPS him

[tacit crystal]

am i a psycho for not using sd weak aura

maybe

[latent moss]

yes

[swift crown]

Eh honestly

[latent moss]

u are

[tacit crystal]

but that one is fun

[swift crown]

I don't really need my SD Weakaura

After playing with it for a while

[tacit crystal]

all i see is mfe and sd stacks jugg

i dont like kahcjng

so aids

[quasi torrent]

? fucking hate BS

[latent moss]

i mean u dont need it i just use it cause its easier tbf i don't raid so i never play slayer

ez solution

[swift crown]

Spongie thinks my details nickname is fucked up

[latent moss]

js dont raid gng

[quasi torrent]

what is it

[swift crown]

(It's Fury betta)

[quasi torrent]

just make it glow?

[quasi torrent]

fury actually okay on muggerZEE

[swift crown]

Yea I mean

[tacit crystal]

think atrocty alrady makes it do that

[swift crown]

I'm honestly

Down to play Fury

With how we're cooking rn

But I think we might miss Exe dam

Being livelordx would be a lot better without the healer cook...

[latent moss]

i might swerve...

[sacred zodiac]

Frenzy drop tech

[quasi torrent]

oh no my p1 dmg!!!!!

friggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

[sacred zodiac]

Target swap in p2

Kill the jailed goons

[swift crown]

Drop Frenzy once

Insane

I wouldn't drop Frenzy in P1

Would be fine

You're the jailee not me

[quasi torrent]

also stop calling it jails

theyre goon caves

not """"""jails""""""

[tacit crystal]

hi anda

goon caver

[quasi torrent]

i am indeed gooning on mugzee

walk into soak

attack man

teleport out

funny monkie technology

[hexed snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338445777489887232/1353046402678390947/20250322_164303.jpg?ex=67e2dd28&is=67e18ba8&hm=6195b69fd126d018f71f1db9f674d7c358e44c4493173ac0098bcbd35f872658&

Gallagio goon

[quasi torrent]

french goons

[strange perch]

I'm watching a streamer prio mortal strike during exe phase on bosses in m+, is that what we're actually meant to do? figured we'd still want the EP stacks

[quasi torrent]

Are they mayhaps not using EP

[tacit crystal]

^

do you mayhaps have a vod or log or something

[fresh spire]

Ep value fell off for colossus in keys

[tacit crystal]

eepy?

why do you think they removed execute giving cm stacks

[swift crown]

Because it makes way for the better experience

Fuck Execute all my homies hate Execute

[kind thunder]

have anyone noticed how night elf would sometimes do spinny attack animation on cleave and sometimes the normal swipe one

[swift crown]

Sounds like you need a miniature roulette wheel

[spiral coral]

OKAY YOU’RE A GOON BUT WHATS A GOON TO A GOBLIN?

[daring heron]

it's just the slam cast from fervor

[kind thunder]

ahhhh that makes sense

[void bay]

have u ever pet a real capybara

[swift crown]

Unfortunately no

[void bay]

https://i.imgur.com/fhhF7Ug.mp4

hes got little hands

[eager sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/капибара-gif-15656021286497190682

[sacred zodiac]

I need it

[quasi torrent]

if u dont have high crit low haste roulette wheel

why live?

so real realr real

[swift crown]

Explode

[quasi torrent]

meow :3

[olive nest]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-big-eyes-meme-gif-7200239684331082529

[swift crown]

:3

Sometimes I wish I had the whole gang raiding with me

[quasi torrent]

sometimes (often) i wish the tier was finally over

this button gonna be gooood

[halcyon breach]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-balloon-shaking-gifdopedrao-gif-18309166828393550457

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-arrives-reversed-scared-gif-13702309

[eager sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/206466559672188928/1336144554323218454/Sigle_optimized.gif

[latent moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170378356588552214/1358021332855427102/i-am-goon-goon.png?ex=67f647ec&is=67f4f66c&hm=2374b5bec51d93bce81544551fae661432eda286f3077502eebb19ac84d88703&

[olive nest]

[warm flicker]

warlord or blademaster for m+?

[olive nest]

ST vs AoE

[warm flicker]

aoe

like +10 keys

[olive nest]

Blademasters is the AoE talent

[old kayak]

If group needs prio on boss warlord

Or group lacks aoe BM

[warm flicker]

is it the only talent i should be switching to in keys? im new to warrior ( folllowing wowhead m+ talents)

[olive nest]

No, raid vs M+ are entirely different builds

The wowhead should cover that and show builds for both forms of content

[warm flicker]

no i mean in wowhead it favors warlord but i see alot of people running blademaster

[olive nest]

Yeah you see that because they’re trying to do more AoE

You stay with warlords to do better boss damage

[warm flicker]

ah okay thank you

[dim basalt]

Unless you dont care about boss damage

But our boss damage isnt even that bad so its kinda nice to have even more

[latent moss]

i play blademasters always

top 2 always

on boss dmg

[rapid bronze]

what the actual fuck is this trash

[rough sluice]

not bad

[still wedge]

just playing catch up on gearing my war - would you do champion track HoC or heroic set gloves? is HoC that good that we should have it regardless?

[rugged notch]

Guys, for m+ should I be simming dslice or something else?

[charred brook]

no one armed nerfs huh

interesting

[spiral coral]

top gear please help me

[frosty quail]

is there a typical off piece of set this tier or am i dumb

[fresh spire]

Legs for fury. Helmet for arms I think was when perfect gear

[frosty quail]

fanks

[rapid bronze]

dumb question but I have champion tier gloves and no catalyst charge. Would you take the hero tier glove (or something else) or just take the myth gloves to catalyze next week and hope your next vault doesn't also need a catalyst

[balmy kindle]

Welp

2 useless trinks

[waxen iron]

Hmm speed/socket myth belt or heroic jastor diamond. sim time

[fresh spire]

If you don't have a jastors then jastors will be king

[balmy kindle]

insane taking TOP trink is a 0.7% dps loss monkaW

[waxen iron]

I figured it's probably better to just drop a dinar on a jastors later and upgrade it to myth track?

[fresh spire]

Probs best in slots > eye/jastors. Depends how many we got. Still no mention if we are even getting then in .5

[waxen iron]

[fresh spire]

Wtb statement or ptr update for dinar

[balmy kindle]

damn why is viscera such a bad trink

[tired pawn]

quick question, im new to arms, when doing aoe, do you have to tab target and rend every single add to get that dot on them? or is it not worth to do that?

[balmy kindle]

just thunder clap

[silver violet]

thunderclap will apply rend

[balmy kindle]

in fact u can unbind rend as well and just use clap

[tired pawn]

oh okay thanks sorry for the silly question. i dont even know what im doing, and im already doing way more than fury. kinda insane the damage.

[edgy dew]

Whats the optimal 4 piece for arms

[ember canopy]

the ring from carnage simmed the best.....but i think i might take the trinket....whats your guys opinion

[untold pewter]

No chest, but honestly chest isn't "bad" either, just sim

[rugged notch]

Guys, for m+ sims, should I use dslice or something else?

[topaz dune]

Got a heroic Best in Slots in Vault

Tragic

Got a 675 charged claymore

Is Zee's Thug Hotline good for us?

Best in slots is max heroic and a 4% dps loss

Tears

[fair topaz]

It's aggressively mid

[sacred zodiac]

as good as it sims

[blissful storm]

dude same

[gentle frigate]

Should I take myth legs which give me like 1 percent increase in damage or should i just buy the sockets?

[topaz dune]

Doesnt tell me if its better on short fights, longer fights etc.

[sacred zodiac]

if you dont have mythic tier you take mythic tier

[topaz dune]

Unless there is a way to tweak the sim that i havnt found

[sacred zodiac]

you can change fight length but it legit doesnt matter at all a ~5 min sim is appropriate for almost everything

look for fight length in the sim options

[gentle frigate]

torq big red button sucks right

[sacred zodiac]

sim it (ye its ass)

[gentle frigate]

Yea i have

What a waste lol

[topaz dune]

Is Spongie the Discord Demon Max was talking about in his tier list vids

LMAO

[dim basalt]

wha

[rare kite]

what does that even mean?

[amber kelp]

is fury consistently out simming Arms atm?

i just dont like fury ... but its simming at least 100k better for me lol im trying to justify not going fury haha

[topaz dune]

Watch the vid, basically every class disc has a few people that say "Check the pins" "Sim it"

Its pretty funny tbh

[rare kite]

i mean "sim it" is correct majority of the time tbf

[topaz dune]

Yeah still funny tho

[sacred zodiac]

whos max

[topaz dune]

Liquid raid lead guy

[midnight quail]

I'll never get rid of my Veteran Quickwick Candlestick 😦

[swift crown]

This is pretty rich coming from a serial yapologist

[thick kelp]

Liquid wins = Tier goated
Liquid lose = Worst tier in history

GG

[sacred zodiac]

true

[swift crown]

Max is so right on this if I did well then good tier if I did bad bad tier

[regal dragon]

so mace is best craft?

weapon wise

[nova marsh]

Any difference is simply sim variance

Craft the cheapest

[dim basalt]

No thats just sim variance

[regal dragon]

ooooooooooh

[regal dragon]

idek which one is

sword looks like

[nova marsh]

Go look at the mats and do the math

Or go with xmog

[solar ocean]

is there a specific delve that is associated with the funhouse lens? or does any delve have a chance of dropping the trinket?

[dim basalt]

Any delve can drop it

[solar ocean]

ty!

[finite wasp]

does anyone know how far ahead best in slots is vs a typical myth track 2h

[topaz dune]

Dude i love to yap.

[reef glade]

for preach flip that

[topaz dune]

Preach crashed the hell out ye

[reef glade]

manbaby chud rage

0 clue what hes talm bout

[shadow ibex]

Mythic mechanics: activated

[olive nest]

11.1.5 announced with blue notes
And no dinar mention

[shadow ibex]

[olive nest]

[reef glade]

they didnt activate the mythic phase of the boss

they didnt put on the triggers

they did this before on nzoth

[bleak fog]

LF a addon that make those icons to a portalbutton..

Seen some streamers have it but no luck when it comes to find out what addon it is

[reef glade]

theres like... weakauras

idk about those buttons specifically

but on the side usually like a little list of em

idk can try and google dungeon teleport weakaura

somethin that looks like its been updated to this season

[bleak fog]

Yeah those WA's I found and used aswell.. But this make the icon like a portalbutton, smoth as fuc..

[reef glade]

ye could be neat, idk maybe could work dont remember if regular portal weakaura shows the like portal tooltip when u hover over it cuz those buttons like show other information n stuff

like your best run and time or whatever

like just putting the buttons in those locations is probably possible but then maybe you cant access the dungeon information if you wanted to for any reason but eh

[latent moss]

atrocityui has it

but motherlode and something esle dont work

[slow saddle]

Tbh this tier is good gally was just to easy

[zenith lodge]

Theres and addon called teleport menu or something, all ports on esc

[buoyant frost]

https://wago.io/uPxmk1k-L this works for me

[bleak fog]

What!! I think I love you @buoyant frost ..

TY

[grand idol]

The polearm is cheapest iirc.

Cheaper alloys

Oh the axe costs the same. I mustr have ahd the axe mog already

[fossil thistle]

Weird bug? Maybe im just not seeing correctly 😂
When i've been pressing MS with EB procs, it wasn't applying rend on mobs sub 35% (Noticed it fighting an elite in a delve)

No rend, just used MS at like ~23%

[hexed snow]

:O

[fossil thistle]

Yea just tried it again, 100% not working 😂

[hexed snow]

Any testers

Mob immune to bleed/rend?

Did u try to manually rend?

[fossil thistle]

No

Yes I did, it applies

[hexed snow]

Damn.

[fossil thistle]

I tried applying rend, then trying to refresh with MS and it still didn't

[hexed snow]

I guess make a ticket?

[fossil thistle]

So blizzard can fix it in 3 weeks

Sec, I'll see if I can screen record the mobs debuffs

[molten marsh]

rip, this is tokens for me right?

[dim basalt]

If you dont have a myth cloak take the cloak

Otherwise yes

[molten marsh]

oh i could use myth cloak

but didnt think haste/mastery would be worth

[fossil thistle]

I apply rend manually, you can see DW refresh after I press mortal strike, without rend refreshing.

[molten marsh]

not better to craft?

[fossil thistle]

@smoky kayak SOS arms bugged

[grand idol]

Make sure you are actually specced into the talent. I have had instances where the ui says I am fully specced into what I see but I am not.

[fossil thistle]

Yup

I tried changing specs, and manually reapplying talent

[smoky kayak]

why would rend refresh on a target >35% health?

[fossil thistle]

Refresh/reapply, from Bloodletting talent

[smoky kayak]

go read Bloodletting again

[smoky kayak]

below 35% health

[fossil thistle]

Yes

[grand idol]

I just hit a mob

[fossil thistle]

It's not happening

[smoky kayak]

this target is at 84% health

[grand idol]

did not apply rend

sub 35

[fossil thistle]

You can see DW refresh after I press mortal strike, and rend does not, sub 35%

[smoky kayak]

the target is at 84% health

not sub 35%

[grand idol]

but there it did

[molten marsh]

sorry what is DW?

[smoky kayak]

oh ok I see, I didn't realize it was a 10 fucking minute long clip lmao

[smoky kayak]

you're in a delve yeah?

[hexed snow]

Target gets rend

[smoky kayak]

it doesn't work in delves

[hexed snow]

Clicked at 34%

[smoky kayak]

known issue

[fossil thistle]

Sorry haha

wtf

😠

It's taken me this long to realize that

[smoky kayak]

I watched like 20s and got bored
ADD brain

[grand idol]

Im not seeing rend apply near 35% but at much lower amounts. im sitting hitting elites as they die at theater

[fossil thistle]

Yea, sorry 😂 I wanted to record the whole mob dying

[hexed snow]

Again

[smoky kayak]

it works in raid, dungeons, and the open world

doesn't work in delves, idk why

[fossil thistle]

So weird

oh well.. Thought blizzard broke arms for the week 👀

[smoky kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/national-spaghetti-day-national-spaghetti-day-hungry-gif-7317183

Blizz devs ^
na it's been a known issue for awhile

would probably care more if it wasn't something as trivial as delves

[grand idol]

I was out in the world though, hitting elites at the theater event. I can only say (with the sample size of 5 elites) that it doesnt apply rend above 30% but does below 15%. Must have been server lag or something. Working perfectly fine on dummies.

[fossil thistle]

Designs new content for an expansion -> Doesn't care about it :kekw: sounds bout right

[minor gust]

So patch date has been announced and there hasn't been a single class change post. I wonder if there's not gonna be any class changes this .5 patch

[mild hound]

I didn’t see dinars either on that .5 announcement

(Thought they were coming then)

[minor gust]

They said it was coming in the .5 patch implying anytime during the patch not at the start

Which makes more sense as getting a Dinar two weeks from now would def be to early

[grand idol]

.5.5 patch then

lol

[minor gust]

Imagine being able to get a mythic Jastors before even 50 guilds have killed Gally yet

[gentle frigate]

What do most of you guys use as a transmog for your two hander

[misty bridge]

Look up Teleport Menu on curseforge

[bleak fog]

I found the one

https://wago.io/uPxmk1k-L

Or well @buoyant frost did 😛

[quaint otter]

its a bug since df open world bloodletting doesnt work

[grave cedar]

Is there any MugZee tech for us to cleave boss and Goons through walls?

[quasi torrent]

nyo

[dim basalt]

Has anyone experienced liquid wa not working on Sprocketmonger?

[quasi torrent]

only if u grief the setup

[dim basalt]

Liquid Anchor wa was bugged, fixed

[unborn canyon]

only thing i have had happen is occasionally TR clips through the wall and hits the goon when im on boss

it hasnt been consistent for me, i just noticed it during a pull once

[quasi torrent]

the gooncave is not impenetrable

[unborn canyon]

wack

[halcyon breach]

You can roar through the walls 👍

[unborn canyon]

wack

[naive sage]

While you're gooning people can hear you roar through the walls

As a side note, I live in your walls.

[nova marsh]

Wow is not a gooner game

Be banished, get, get i say! Go back to your overwatch and marvel rivals

[naive sage]

Uninstalled overwatch after my first and only match

[nova marsh]

Good man

Also you might wonna leave my walls

They have some rat problems

[lyric horizon]

in terms of arms statline what should i go for?

[unborn canyon]

he is the ratman

[sacred zodiac]

I do this to you daily

[lyric horizon]

right now i have 26% crit, 26% haste, 30 mastery. im trying to drop mastery to 20% and get crit and haste up

[unborn canyon]

sim, but also haste = crit > mastery > vers i think is what we do? i just listen to the sim bot

[halcyon breach]

Cease the assault

[sacred zodiac]

What is the reason you are doing this

[slow saddle]

Haste is more fun

[quaint otter]

for colo more crit/mast
for slayer haste

[lyric horizon]

thats just what i ended up with and from what archon says mastery should be lower in general

[slow saddle]

Is only good answer

[quasi torrent]

good one buddy

[sacred zodiac]

Just simulationcraft it instead

[nova marsh]

How can you goon to 2 pixels

....wait goldshire exists

Shit lmafo

[lyric horizon]

yea should also note a lot of the gear i had was for m+ but ive been progging undermine so i've been trying to re-orient

[quasi torrent]

bro people gooned to tomb raider 3d pyramids

they keep adding more and more sus amogus mogs aswell so yea

[nova marsh]

So

[sacred zodiac]

I wonder what this used to say

[nova marsh]

Evrey game is a gooner game

Gotcha

[naive sage]

It was me making those noises

[quasi torrent]

No?

[nova marsh]

It's a joke

[halcyon breach]

ff14 is a gooner game

[naive sage]

it's time

[zenith granite]

https://imgur.com/11hnb5b

[nova marsh]

Ffxiv is omega gooner game

[quasi torrent]

mare mare

[zenith granite]

myth helm has socket

[quasi torrent]

join the syncshell buddy

[naive sage]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[halcyon breach]

Nyo :3

[quasi torrent]

Oki :3

[lyric horizon]

loooool

[trim arrow]

how do people memorize their stat %s

[nova marsh]

This was made in shadowlands I'm sure of it but idk the tier LMAFO

[trim arrow]

find something more wortwhile

[sacred zodiac]

40401010

[quaint otter]

cuz its important

[naive sage]

Based

[lyric horizon]

i mean tbh i just read it off as i typed lmfao

[nova marsh]

40/40/20/20 is the real omega based

[trim arrow]

i play warrior idk math

[sacred zodiac]

Im still unsure whether that guy even knew what 40401010 meant

[quaint otter]

id get 0.5% dmg increase if i move some crit to mastery therefore i cant sleep without it

[nova marsh]

MY PARSES!

[trim arrow]

Thats like

one demolish crit

[gaunt owl]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[trim arrow]

just wipe the raid if you dont crit a demo

ez

[quaint otter]

cs parried
call a wipe

[gaunt owl]

taunt boss and nuke some squishy with a mechanic

[quasi torrent]

parry is thematic

[quaint otter]

[minor gust]

I love my parry texture

the texture feels so texturey

[halcyon breach]

Gallywix is actually crazy to prog, because unlike Ansurekussy, he doesn't parry

[quasi torrent]

i knyow :3

[sacred zodiac]

What the glorp

[halcyon breach]

They finally added a no-parry flag to a boss you have to stand in front of for 70% of the fight

[quasi torrent]

i wonder who figured this out

[gaunt owl]

finally a dev playing melee ?

[quasi torrent]

dont kid urself

[minor gust]

they will forget to do it on the next boss you stand infront of the whole time

[teal fossil]

yep

manually coding that shit is not it

[quaint otter]

finally a dev

🔥 🐲

[naive sage]

pppaww u are old and tired now

[gaunt owl]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1026579199655419974/1198382784176201869/IubzkROb.gif

[teal fossil]

i dont think anyone was sure

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-despair-meme-atone-gif-18083281511005463831

[trim arrow]

ppaww old

time to play ret paladin

[paper lily]

Guys which is the main difference between the Crafted 2 handed sword and axe?

[minor gust]

the transmog

[modern pelican]

im so torn, my vault has a hero house of cards trinket but also Myth tier shoulders

[minor gust]

ive peaked

[olive nest]

NICE

[dim basalt]

nice

[gaunt owl]

time to uninstall you won the game

[lusty arrow]

we sim as 5 target patchwerk for M+?

[dim basalt]

ye

[lusty arrow]

❤️

[minor gust]

you cant trick me to join you and go outside grandpa

[gaunt owl]

come on its fun

[minor gust]

but theres grass and women outside its scary

[shadow ibex]

It's leg day

[faint fog]

does funhouse mirror always sim as if youre getting haste from it?

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/light-weight-gif-21674454

[faint fog]

funhouse lens*

[reef glade]

is it random or your highest stat

trinket text imagine is pretty clear

if its random its random

[sacred zodiac]

you are american

[reef glade]

you are dansk

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-12111808

[sacred zodiac]

i am not

[reef glade]

thoughts on hungarians

looks alot like fungarians

my people

[sacred zodiac]

probably cool idk

[reef glade]

🐲

[halcyon breach]

As a Dane this is an insane slur to hurl at someone

Can you not, I'll have to time you out

[faint fog]

no its either crit or haste but not sure what proc its simming

@reef glade

[weary hull]

@crimson charm need log on ur mugzee fights if possible

[graceful light]

anyone know if funhouse lenz drops on prot loot spec?

[zealous pivot]

Does turbo drain sim weird in ST i have pacemaker and viscera heroic but turbo sims higher

[dim basalt]

Dont think so

[reef glade]

random then

but probably not a big deal which way

wouldnt say 1 proc is like 800,000x better than the other one anything

imagine equalish uptime of both in the sim

[faint fog]

bet thank you

[crimson charm]

Any specific reason?

[random ibex]

is this a socket angle?

[weary hull]

i wanna see fury vs arms

[crimson charm]

Arms is generally better, but Fury is still really good

[weary hull]

so if im progging and fury is simming 120k higher

only for mugzee

[crimson charm]

I'd still say Arms, but both works just fine

[rugged lily]

ain't u taking arms for exec phase ?

[crimson charm]

Fury has decent Execute as well, but yes, Arms is better for Execute

[rugged lily]

k

ty

exec no cd is smth else lol

is it normal if sims tell me to change nothing to my fury stuff ?

i have like 7k crit

seems low for arms no ?

[sacred zodiac]

is that a mythic ring you havent told the sim to upgrade at all?

[daring silo]

What should we do to sim Arms M+? Dungeon Slice?

[weary hull]

ty sarri

[crimson charm]

Any time!

[random ibex]

yes, im running a new sim now with max upgrades.

[quasi torrent]

u should run some intermittent upgrade steps too so it has some choices how to spend crests

[random ibex]

hmm

ML ring is +49k for Arms, but mythic Reverb Radio is + 69k (nice) for fury, ML ring is +55k for fury

radio isnt even close for arms

i think i go ring

[rare kite]

69k??

your trinkets must be so ass

[dim basalt]

69k sounds like a lot

[random ibex]

i currently have a 665 house of cards, and 665 pacemaker

[sacred zodiac]

is this a scuffed aoe sim for +70k or

[random ibex]

this is ST