arms

[halcyon breach]

Should've prob just played 2x Col but shrug

[boreal remnant]

imagine having a cowarrior

[halcyon breach]

Killed boss anyway

[sacred zodiac]

Hello

[halcyon breach]

greetings sponger

[latent moss]

eignops

[halcyon breach]

If they're good it's actually kinda cool

[remote ledge]

To make the decision for my raid, is there a case where it'd be better to go one or another, or play what I'm better at?

[tacit crystal]

COMBUST COMBUST COMBUST

[halcyon breach]

I'd almost always say by default go Colossus, but if your Reel assistant damage is turbo fine but you're lacking consistent bomb damage, then Thane could be the play

P2 damage check doesn't really exist either as long as people live and play the phase

I did however go Jugg Col to just do mostly P2 damage

[tacit crystal]

if i have to play thane past stix im blowing up

[latent moss]

why are u damaging Instagram reels assistants...

[cerulean scroll]

what about staying slayer

[latent moss]

🥀

[shadow ibex]

Sod arms overrated someone has to say it

[halcyon breach]

I barely tried Slayer

[boreal remnant]

slayer better for boss damage

[halcyon breach]

Did not seem worth imo

[boreal remnant]

theoretically

[latent moss]

cope

[halcyon breach]

At least not in my case

[shadow ibex]

Pure gamba

[tacit crystal]

time hitting boss

[boreal remnant]

same

[tacit crystal]

[halcyon breach]

We were kinda struggling a few times on Reel damage

So I stayed Colossus

[boreal remnant]

same

[halcyon breach]

But went Jugg for Exe dam

[shadow ibex]

Oops I forgot to swap off war breaker

[latent moss]

sod arms is 100x every post sl design combined

[halcyon breach]

No BL though ment very inconsistent Demolish CDR for assistants

[shadow ibex]

That's a low bar

It's been ass since bfa

[latent moss]

sod was the best design since bfa rework

[remote ledge]

Thanks, I'll watch some kill videos to understand cd timings, my arms is clueless

[halcyon breach]

Can't really help with CD timings

I just kinda vibe pressed mine

[shadow ibex]

I agree but that's just not saying much. 5 is greater than 1 yea

[remote ledge]

Demo timing is black magic

[sacred zodiac]

U either get perfect alignment or u dont

[latent moss]

revvez chaos bane timing on sylvanas...

[sacred zodiac]

I dont think you can affect them

[halcyon breach]

We're currently playing this in keys as Col without EP

[remote ledge]

Feels OK in m+, feel like it would desync all the times in raid

[halcyon breach]

The only thing that made SoD better was the fact that you still had rage to think about

[sacred zodiac]

We should play pile on

[latent moss]

too much rage

ye

[halcyon breach]

So the spec at least had some semblance of depth to it

[latent moss]

ms either crits or it doesnt

gg

[sacred zodiac]

Sweep ms resets

I think i can affect astral alignment for this

[latent moss]

at the end of the day it either crits or it doesnt

not only does ms hit for nothing if it doesnt crit

it also gives jack shit cdr

peak design

[swift crown]

@sacred zodiac doesnt know that feeling

[fresh spire]

Obtain 100% crit

Still not crit

[swift crown]

Spongie cowarriors are on a downward trend

fr

[halcyon breach]

my cowarriors don't either

The cowarrior before my previous quit mid tier, probably because he played with me

[swift crown]

Spomgiewarr going from Kritischer Kuchen to Andus to now me

how the mighty have fallen

[sacred zodiac]

You do more damage than me no doubt due to simming 20k head of me not due to skill issue

[remote ledge]

It's always a trinket diff

Also when I lose, it's variance dependant

He had a lot of procs, thus resets, thus more damage

[swift crown]

Curious Spongie accused me of having insane RNG

[tacit crystal]

me when my jug drops before every execute dver

[remote ledge]

while cowarior manages a 99% jugg uptime

[thick kelp]

me when I had 15 stack jugg at the start of mugzee p2 and now do 1.2million more dps

[halcyon breach]

Me when I drop it at 36% and I have to restack it

[tacit crystal]

[halcyon breach]

I've had this happen a very non-zero amount of times where I drop Juggernaut because of damage stop or no SD procs after the last add dies

[tacit crystal]

unironically not coping

[remote ledge]

thane master race

[tacit crystal]

its happened to me

95% of my pulls

not lying

its in the logs

[remote ledge]

open a ticket, your account needs bad luck protection

[void bay]

i open a ticket everytime I dont beat the tank on dps, which is a lot

[fresh spire]

when its at 13 stacks+ and you see the timer running down so you spam execute GCD for the last second just incase it procs

[sacred zodiac]

your rng was so good you morphed into a better class for bandit

[swift crown]

insane RNG morph into greyparse

[tacit crystal]

bro stop

when its less than 3

i stop everything else

and mash it every time

i lose everytime

[boreal remnant]

how important is it to spend globals setting up rend on pulls in m+? I'm wondering if maybe I'm underusing tc

[cerulean scroll]

other than the first one, use it out side of cds over op

so when u would normaly use op

[boreal remnant]

Mm, comparing against critcake we've got just about the same casts everywhere

sounds like a difference in routes and a difference in cd use timings

[tacit crystal]

ik its bad

but i rend before i tc

just feels bad to not have rend on more targets if we play 2 bb

also might as well while gathering occurs

[olive nest]

how should i go about gearing a rat

the lazy way

get ring from island then run some delves?

[tacit crystal]

siren ring buy gear

delve

[sacred zodiac]

buy a hc boost

[tacit crystal]

real

[cerulean scroll]

buy mythic boe

[tacit crystal]

how bad is rending

[olive nest]

not that important of an alt to spend millions xD

[sacred zodiac]

context

[tacit crystal]

#arms message

[halcyon breach]

This is just a normal thing to do while a pull is being gathered

You don't want to press actual buttons, so you just press TC while it's happening

[boreal remnant]

ye

I've got some actual runs recorded if someone wants to take a moment to analyze

[sacred zodiac]

i mean what do you mean "is it important"

should you be tcing instead of pressing your cds on a gathered pull? probably not

[halcyon breach]

If everything is already gathered on pull, you can just send TC -> CDs

[sacred zodiac]

should you be cding on a pull that isnt gatehred yet? probably not

[olive nest]

this island only has one quest that gives a ring upgrade

am i blind?

[void bay]

u mean ilevel upgrade?

[olive nest]

yes

[void bay]

yeah they were timegated to once a week

now u can do them back to back

[boreal remnant]

to get the rest you need to finish the progress bar

[olive nest]

OH

that makes sense ty

[tacit crystal]

yes

[boreal remnant]

then blame the tank

[tacit crystal]

playing with gajeel was scary

he would instantly charge into a pack

i was scared of him dying every time

[spiral coral]

I’ve found delves sometimes more tedious than +2-+5s

[boreal remnant]

Do all weekly quests for coffer keys
do delves for hero gear
do lfr
talk to renown vendors for free crests

also do gally storymode for a free 658 piece

[coral mesa]

'Ello. Maybe a silly question however: Do I Bladestorm in execute phase?

[tacit crystal]

dad how do i crank like gajeel

[boreal remnant]

Idk bro I'm gonna get my m+ recordings demolished on live twitch today to improve

[tacit crystal]

#arms message

[tacit crystal]

i recorded them too

dw

im going to get owned

[boreal remnant]

yes

[coral mesa]

Thanks!

[tacit crystal]

dad first key i played wrong build so i had 0 kicks on uh

lol

[void bay]

dad needs to do more kicks

[junior jetty]

noob arm warrior have question: does demolish need to be spend with full stacks or frequently as possible? (in aoe or st)

[tacit crystal]

st on pull will probably without any stacks can send immediately or before cs ends

aoe 10

force if cs is ending but you have to be turbo unlucky for that

[junior jetty]

thx!

[charred brook]

I usually rip a charge sweeping cleave thunderclap while tank is grouping

After like 2 seconds

That way collat will proc on like my last bone grinder cleave

And get fatty cleave at the end

[tacit crystal]

maybe but 2-3 less collat

think its not less

to do that

[charred brook]

Worth I usually waste the collat on a random cleave anyways that only gets buffed by op

Then it also gives me time to stack another collat for next pill

Pull

[tacit crystal]

then its worth

[charred brook]

I can’t wait to be off work tomorrow to get back to the grind 😈

[tacit crystal]

whats your io

surely ill start psuhing again

i refuse to go any higher until i get the motherlode ring

[charred brook]

Almost 3100

[void bay]

Call in sick and say "I cant come to work as im going to be a father"....and when your boss (hopefully) says "congratulations, is it a boy or girl?"....you say "idk ill tell you in 9months"

[charred brook]

I’m full solo

So I’m slow

[tacit crystal]

im at 2971

[charred brook]

Unfortunately due to oversharing my personal life with my boss it won’t work as he knows I’m snipped

[olive nest]

pretty sure i just delete this ring and re buy it

to get free 658 in the other slot right

[tacit crystal]

surelyp

[junior jetty]

confused with so many guide sites which one is recommended?(not to be noob in arms)

[olive nest]

wowhead probably

warbreaker is great too

[junior jetty]

thx i'll dig right in to it

[olive nest]

[slow saddle]

wtf happened gettin into 11 keys is super eas

y

once i hit 12s no invs

😄

[olive nest]

no io fo u!

[hexed snow]

Hooray hooray!

[olive nest]

gz!

[hexed snow]

Pugging Prioriy was

A very fun thing to do :)

[void bay]

gz dude

[dire hinge]

grats!

[slow saddle]

Gz

thats all 13s with some 14s?

[dim basalt]

Almost all 13s is enough

Think you can have 1-2 12s

[slow saddle]

ok

hmm i should be able to do this soonish then

he said

with 2 timed 12s

^_^

[dim basalt]

I have exactly 3k with 5 13's, 2 12's and one 11

Barely get to push keys atm

[slow saddle]

which 1 is 11?

[dim basalt]

workshop lmao

But its a 2 chest tbf

[slow saddle]

haha

i got same

11 +2

do dmg requirement increase a lot from 11 to 1

2

or are my pugs just bad

?

[dim basalt]

Nah doesnt really increase

13 to 14 is really noticable imo

And I guess every key level afterwards

[dire hinge]

things start to hurt pretty bad too

[dim basalt]

ye meadery is kinda scary

[spiral coral]

I straight up told my boss I was leaving an hour early to go play WoW idgaf

[hexed snow]

For Cauldron of Carnage Gorilla boss - When he does his drums which spawns circles on ur feet

how long does it take before it actually explodes?

[spiral coral]

What are you gonna do fire me? Pls give me more gaming time.

[dim basalt]

A long time, you can just stutter step

Think you can stack like 3-4 before the first explodes

[hexed snow]

interesting

is it just worth standing still for the first 2

[spiral coral]

I wish I could practice Torq by myself

[dim basalt]

I always do small steps because I dont wanna risk fucking it up

Because if you get hit it really does hurt

[spiral coral]

It’s the only boss I still really have issues with on movement. I’ll get it though.

[slow saddle]

torQ?

is that monkey boy?

i will not lie, i got stunned on our first kill

some embarrasing

and we have so many melees. that thhe mid when they clashing is horrid 😄

[atomic shale]

The circles spawn every half second I think so you could make a weakaura that ticks an animation when you have the debuff. If you do it right you can just move in a small square

[weak wave]

3 is already dangerous. Better move after 2.

[remote ledge]

did all 12 as arms yesterday, i have only one wish and it's to play furry every single key

[finite wasp]

fury is a boring spec to me

ur just bashing ur head on the keyboard to do dps

[spiral coral]

You can. Run your own key lol. Asked a guy in ToP after joining as arms if I could switch and they didn’t care also.

[spiral coral]

I used to think this. Until it kinda just clicked for me.

Fury is my go to for raiding now.

[smoky kayak]

I have literally never, ever had anyone ask or question what spec I was playing in a key

[spiral coral]

But they’re both super fun and I regret not running fury earlier

[spiral coral]

They didn’t ask. I joined as arms and asked to switch to fury.

Could’ve probably just done it and not said anything lmao

[smoky kayak]

I can't imagine anyone would notice or care

[spiral coral]

Yeah they literally said in chat “idgaf” lmaooo

I asked later if he would’ve invited me as a fury and they said no 😂

So I don’t get it

[smoky kayak]

maybe after the key they just thought you were bad

[spiral coral]

actually lol’d thank you cause you right

[finite wasp]

people just dont like inviting fury

[spiral coral]

People don’t invite non meta

[finite wasp]

or warrior in general

[spiral coral]

I mean. As someone who only runs their own keys outside of like under +5 just to game. I get it.

[river ridge]

More of this than anything else. Decent shot if you're wearing a shield tho

[spiral coral]

But if I’m playing Fire mage and a warrior applies, they are almost always accepted

Warrs always top interrupt board or close to it and have great uptime. At least from what I’ve experienced.

Always doing something

Only spec/class Im jaded towards is DH. Never have really had great experiences with them.

[remote ledge]

im already playing fury for half of the keys, might do for the other half also

just wanted to give arms a proper try

[spiral coral]

Arms = m+
Fury = raid

Gives me a direction to do both

Cleave too stronk in aoe

[smoky kayak]

DH players

[boreal remnant]

Do we only get CDR on demolish with 10 stacks of cm?

[smoky kayak]

after 10 stacks, yes

[spiral coral]

They’re so soft

[smoky kayak]

I would have said ADHD, but ok

[boreal remnant]

Thanks, would explain why I feel like the cdr was sometimes not applying

[flat willow]

I love vengeance dh in m+

they pack and cc everything, it's like opening gifts at christmas

always a good season when DH is meta

fuck havoc tho, they always suck

[finite wasp]

this ^, im watching crits stream rn and his arms run on cleft was way ahead on dps when he did fury beforehand

fury does have that prio damage, but it does come to a point where uncapped padding overall does begin to matter at some point in a key

[hollow wave]

Meanwhile Noxiv doing +17 as fury

[fresh spire]

Fury is viable.

End of season will be between being able to survive for a little more damage as arms vs way more tanky for a little less overall as firy

[hollow wave]

Dead warrior do no damage 🧌

Where zugzug emoji

[spiral coral]

How accurate is the race distribution for classes on wowhead?

1% Vulpera for arms 😂

Damn I’m alone

[honest matrix]

can you play arms with fury stats?

[tranquil mist]

yes

chunk a crit flask and go

[tidal acorn]

as colosus do I ever want to spend my martial prowess stacks on mortal strike in aoe? barring scenarios where MS>cleave already. Seems like I wouldnt

[tacit crystal]

pressing things on cd is good

only case would be huge collat or somehting

[teal fossil]

Very minor optimization

Just press on cd

[honest matrix]

thanks 😄

[swift crown]

Spongie could be you

@sacred zodiac

[sacred zodiac]

logging

[silk spade]

herreal

[spiral coral]

I’m about to have a full warband of lvl 80 vulperas lol

Two being warriors

[finite wasp]

bro i just had a thought

what if warr had old warlords torment

that'd be broken af on colossus

[spiral coral]

I don’t care what arms has as long as I’m not using skullsplitter or spamming slam

[dapper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disappointed-disgusting-disgusted-looking-gif-6561690286467128067

[spiral coral]

Camp is OP

Can farm so much old content so easily or just make myself a hearth literally anywhere

[summer cargo]

Fury is good

I timed all 13 fury

In psf and brew dont look at details

[remote ledge]

It does lower overall but ego on the side it kinda speeds up keys

[sacred zodiac]

[remote ledge]

I might give it a try there

[teal fossil]

Eh

Most of the power is in the rage gain

20% crit doesn’t matter too much

Especially since we don’t look to align

[finite wasp]

bro warbreaker with recklessness, youd be able to sometimes demolish and collateral at that duration bro the burst would be crazy

[smoky kayak]

still a lot of crit very regularly if it was tied to CS instead of Ava

[finite wasp]

or like a consistent giga burst

[smoky kayak]

old Warlord's created a crazy feedback loop, since you got a ton of rage which led to a lot of CDR, which led to more CS and more rage; it's the main reason Test of Might was so good

[rose matrix]

Why does Demolish say you are immune to forced movement when channeling it when you in fact get moved by everything still

[quasi torrent]

it moves against most burst like pushes

not the slower pushbacks (most things in pve)

very dogshit

[rose matrix]

They should change the wording then

Demolish alone makes me not want to play Arms at all. I don't mind the spec but this ability is so bad it ruins it

[spiral coral]

I literally look forward to pressing demolish

Me “fuck yeah demolish is up”

baaaaaaap

So satisfying

Having to think “can I stand still right here for two seconds and be safe” is kinda weird to get used to though

[smoky kayak]

I enjoy Demolish, but it could definitely use some QoL improvements - most importantly, it should practically never cancel

[spiral coral]

I feel like I cancel it about every 3-4 times somehow

Just attributed it to it being a bit buggy sometimes

[minor gust]

how long until we get this I say not until next expansion

[smoky kayak]

most common reasons are enemy targets being pulled away, or absentmindedly jumping
I've never seen it just cancel for no reason though

[minor gust]

[spiral coral]

I believe what you said about being pulled away answers me mystery

[smoky kayak]

Yeah it's dumb, if the target dies, the AoE will still go off
but if the target gets pulled away, it won't

[spiral coral]

I’m just going to be inside the boss from now on when I hit demolish

[rose matrix]

Only fun thing about Demolish is the damage

Everything else sucks

[quasi torrent]

fyralath (but worse) (and more often)

[spiral coral]

I was literally right about to ask about this

[smoky kayak]

I like the buildup, I like that it encourages and rewards Mortal Strike (not that current Arms rotation really has a choice); I like that it's another big-ish and AoE button in the rotation

even the extra bit of DR is nice, minor as it may be

[spiral coral]

I really enjoy it. I’d be really upset if it got taken to the watershed.

[rose matrix]

I mean they just took the on use from the legendary and made it slightly worse and you got Demolish

That on use sucked too

[smoky kayak]

Well the channel is shorter, that's better

you also get DR and a damage amp during/after it

[reef birch]

dreadnaught or strength of arms for m+?

[spiral coral]

Seeing my Vulpera use demolish looks so silly

[smoky kayak]

either/or really, most run SoA for more prio since Overpower's multitarget priority is pretty low

[reef birch]

feels so counterintuitive

for m+

[smoky kayak]

I mean DN works fine, and it's about an even trade of multitarget vs single target

[shadow ibex]

You can still use dn but eb and short blademaster leave little room

It's like 2-3% overall in a run

[reef birch]

probably 2set adds too much power to overpower's st to ignore

[shadow ibex]

Do you want 2/3% more dmg on details at the end or more st

[smoky kayak]

2p also increases DN

everything that affects Overpower also affects DN

[shadow ibex]

Colossus isn't really lacking aoe

[reef birch]

i see

[smoky kayak]

It'd be different if you were playing Slayer, but because Colossus values Mortal Strike -> Colossal Might so much, Overpower gets pushed down in the rotation whether you have DN or not

[nova marsh]

bro

Feelscrafting goes hard

[smoky kayak]

Also the funny thing about the 2p is that prioritizing Overpower less means getting less benefit but also consuming it less often, which allows it to build higher stacks on average

• If you were using Overpower on cooldown, you'd be much more likely to consume it early, resulting in lower 4p stacks and less average Overpower damage
• but by using it more sparingly, you're a lot more likely to build higher stacks, which means the fewer Overpowers will be stronger, and also trigger a stronger 4p

so it all kinda washes out in the end

[sage badge]

I play dreadnaught in m+

[void bay]

u know what I do all night?

[strange perch]

Welcome to gally fight …

[drifting geode]

Hey im new to the server and fairly new ish to wow it cool to post my arms sim and anyone could help with tips or trick etc? just doing m+ atm for first time

[thick kelp]

do u play blademasters too cutie

[minor gust]

if your new to wow aswell Danny I wouldnt worry to much about focusing on your sims. Check out any of the guides posted in here https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715 if you havent already. Rest is just taking that practice into keys and your skills will improve over time. Focus on doing your rotation, surviving, and maintaining uptime on the mobs. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask in here

[sage badge]

Yeah

[quaint otter]

[sage badge]

What's that?

[void bay]

A joke I will not make

[sage badge]

[misty sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/yvesdolls-gif-26020639

[shadow ibex]

Blademaster and many haste so cleave has no cd

[strange perch]

You know we often ask about warrior remake but then I look at DH openers, rotations, and think “perhaps we are fine”.

[quasi torrent]

dh is also in a sad state

[shadow ibex]

a 4th class tree rework

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-why-shouldnt-i-lotr-bilbo-bilbo-why-shouldnt-i-why-shouldnt-i-lord-of-the-rings-gif-17096479

[boreal remnant]

Dn

[latent moss]

id rather be dh than the most bland spec in the game ngl

[minor gust]

DH owns right now

very fun to play

[spiral coral]

purple and pink errywhere in 3k

[strange perch]

Now turn off hekili and execute all mechanics in the raid.

[flat willow]

Whats wrong with dh

[smoky kayak]

I ask myself that every raid night...

[nova marsh]

Tbh

DH is just Mid af

Though I heard the no mover build finally isn't trolling

[stable fiber]

i think arcane is probably the most bland spec in the game

really bland ass talents outside of touch of the magi

[silk spade]

dh very fun this patch

[stable fiber]

noting sticks out

[minor gust]

Mover DH is just backflipping every 20 sec no more fel rush trolling

[smoky kayak]

yeah now it's backflip & felblade trolling

[nova marsh]

I mean always gotta be felblade

[latent moss]

xd no spec is hard to play

[untold matrix]

ravager still better than bladstorm in single target?

[latent moss]

no

but it still much better in execute

so if u are playing arms for execute damage you shoukd still play ravager

[minor gust]

only worth really if ur lusting in execute

[untold matrix]

word

[stable fiber]

i foresee it being good on mugzee and bandit

prob only those 2

[untold matrix]

i mean

im a pretty dog arms warrior i think and ive been playing with and it feels solid

prob just because i dont know how much damage im losing for having it

[gleaming pebble]

is there a wsorking spell reflect weak aura? tried a few and no dice

[swift crown]

With nerfs coming I predict a lot more Fury on Bandit

Cause it likely hits Assistants the hardest

[wary needle]

so i got these in my vault, which seems to be the bis gloves for arms, but i need the last piece of tier to get 4P... do i keep hunt hero track shoulders for 4P and keep these like that, or do i just tier these badboys up?

i play mostly fury and prot now, but want to try arms later

[smoky kayak]

personally I wouldn't worry about "bis" too much, since it only really matters in the context of having that exact combination of items - if you don't, the stats won't add up the same way and so it's quite plausible certain things won't be "bis" anymore

even more so if you're planning to play multiple specs, since it's very unlikely you're gonna collect and maintain three whole sets of unique gear

[wary needle]

I've been playinhg feral with a hugfe focus on mastery and considering theres that odd enchant (guile?) i wasnt sure how sensitive it was

so ill just tier 'em up, thx

[native geyser]

for dps whats ideal to end keys with? i Feel like im stuck around 2.9M-3.2M Overall. Failed a 12 due to timer and a few deaths from others. Curious if i need to figure out how to squeeze more

[wary needle]

depends on what key, but ive timed 12s at much lower

how much dps did the other people have?

[native geyser]

MM 3.33, Warlock 2.5

[latent moss]

no way to tell

depends on the dungeon

tank

comp

etc

[wary needle]

yeah, ive realised that playing with a resto dudu rqeuires dps to do much more while some other healing specs can compensate

[native geyser]

Totally agree, i just felt like being 665 i should be doing more. but again thats based on how much the tank is pulling

[wary needle]

i think i did 3.3m on priory with my feral and i was happy

[latent moss]

like cinderbrew u can do 4.5 on a decently high key with a good tank

[wary needle]

then i topped dps at a +12 TOP at 2.2m (2.2m, 2.1m, 2m on dps, 1.3 on tank i think)

that we failed with 60 seconds or something

[native geyser]

Brother what

[wary needle]

you pull everything

and just uncapped aoe doing its work

[latent moss]

huge pulls

play around collateral damage

blademasters

but emphasis on good tank

there are very few good tanks

for some reason

when they are in the best state in a very long time

[native geyser]

Okay maybe i see my issue, whats the immediate opener for larger pulls

[latent moss]

i do charge tc roar ss wb rava cleave ms then proceed to build colossal might

until 10 then demo

u build to 10 very fast tho

[wary needle]

did you ever play with a tank whos at like 3400 or 3500?

[latent moss]

ms crits with ss

4 stacks insta

[wary needle]

i got up to 2.3m on my 640 fury without 4p and a 645 2h off-hand in a rookery

because the tank was so good

[latent moss]

fury in m+

🥀

[wary needle]

yeah, im looking at going arms >=(

thats why im typing in here

hard to get groups so i just tank most of the time

[native geyser]

ill have to keep practicing, feel like im messing up somewhere? maybe even the rotation afterwards?

[wary needle]

can you upload a log?

[latent moss]

aoe - cleave>ms>op
st - ms>op>execute in exe phase>slam

[native geyser]

is this assuming im running dread?

[latent moss]

dont run it

run soa

it isnt a very relevant choice tbh but little bit extra st helps

this is what im playing

[native geyser]

Ill compare

[cerulean dune]

Do Arms have a crit cap i See Most ppl around 30% ?

[random ridge]

You cant execute under 35% with that

[potent creek]

more like diminishing kicks in and sims start to tell drop some crit for other stuff, no card cap tho

[latent moss]

i meant 20

[native geyser]

is this rage gen from deep wounds noticable ?

[stable fiber]

its only noticeable in aoe

i have the same talents as him but have finishing blows instead which is rage gen during execute

it isnt really a big diff though, i find myself rage starved way more on st than on aoe pulls

especially during execute

[harsh field]

should i send demolish without collosus smash?

[stable fiber]

nah

you should always send them together with colossus smash before demolish

[harsh field]

thx

[stable fiber]

they have similar cds so you should be able to line them up together usually within a couple seconds of eachother

and with cdr its a little lower, cs usually comes up faster than demolish by about 3-8 seconds

[wary needle]

do you guys craft any specific item after the weapon? ive been simming and it seems like a lot of it is just to replace my shittiest piece except the neck

so i guess ill craft the neck? :-P

[robust cypress]

Im crafting cloak/wrists just to get the bis slots out of the way

but for prog you can prob craft a helm/chest if you dont have a high ilvl one already. And then prob a belt/boot. Neck/rings are REALLY heavy on 1 stat this season so it's hard to justify crafting an item that is an even 50/50

[slow saddle]

What with neck?

Ah raid necks

Havent seen em yet haha

[austere hamlet]

In aoe they should line up, but in st they can desync and you just send them separately

[robust cypress]

Ye, raid neck and cinder neck are HUGE haste

I think dfc is also HUGE crit but dont think that neck si as desirable

[slow saddle]

Crit haste is nice though

And its mythic level

[grand bough]

Yo guys - im enjoying arms a lot in raid/single target but do you guys also feel like it needs mini rework/attention for the m+ builds? I hate that all of the CDs are desynced, legit nothing lines up

[bright ginkgo]

Smash and Demolish are a lot of the time lined up

[balmy kindle]

If anything having high crit = demolish can come up alot faster in higher keys

Double demolish

[slow saddle]

Fact

U just get used to it

Its not to bad in aoe

But in st its noticable

[grand bough]

literally everything else is desynced, they never line up with avatar if you use smash and demolish on cd

[slow saddle]

But u always

[grand bough]

shouldnt have to imo, just feels like bad design

[slow saddle]

Get 1 smash into avatar

[grand bough]

other classes have had these things smoothed out

[slow saddle]

I mean cs and demo u most times get 1 into avatar

Or u hold avatsr for 5 secs

[grand bough]

Just doesnt feel smooth

feels clunky

[slow saddle]

So thats more a skill issue

[grand bough]

i mean i am holding for 5 secs or so to make them line up when that happens

but im saying that it doesnt feel smooth

[slow saddle]

Its the curse of am m8

If u want cdr

This is what cdr brings

Tbh in aoe its a non issue

And on bosses theres conditions that will make u hold shit as demo

Non amp phase, dodge phase.

So i will say. U will get used to it. And then its a non issue. Ppl hated demo coz u casting.

[civic parrot]

hello gang, hoping y'all can answer my beginner question.

whilst attacking single target, mortal strike + overpower is on cd, what skill should i be using? should slam be my filler, while execute is not yet possible?

[eager sigil]

yes

[civic parrot]

sup gang, what would be the BIS crafted weapon for arms? 😄

[shut lichen]

Don't know if its bis but I crafted myself haste crit 2h sword with ascendance and I've been liking it 🙂

Well recrafted from last season

[quaint otter]

slam if target is 1 and cleave if 2

[heady shale]

What should I play in 12s? Have both Slayer/Collosus builds and swap depending on dungeon? (i.e. ST vs Aoe builds)?

[wary needle]

did you look at the top arms warriors logs to see what they play?

[heady shale]

I'm actually prot main at ~2.95k so not really familiar with arms

Was thinking of zug-zug a bit

Ill check I guess

[wary needle]

i havent looked that much into it but only ever seen colossus

[heady shale]

Wowhead shows a Juggernaut Mythic+ which is based on Slayer. Ill have a look to see which zug is most fun

[naive breach]

colossus

[wary needle]

Spiky AoE Mythic+ Colossus

[heady shale]

So if I go in a dungeon, Arms is AoE and fury ST?

[wary needle]

basically yes

[heady shale]

For example ToP has low trash density, Arms AoE kinda weird

But tons of ST bosses

[wary needle]

4-5 targets = fury, uncapped = arms

[naive breach]

top is a good fury key yes

[heady shale]

I stole a 3/6 Hero Decapitator 2h from a depressed Paladin. Will use that for Arms

[spiral coral]

Hell yeah

[heady shale]

What 2nd M+ trinket should I use alongside Pacemaker?

[wary needle]

bloodmallet is a nice source

if you dont want to sim

eye of kazan > house of cards > mister lock n stalk > viscera > suspicious

[heady shale]

Im M+, so options kinda limited. Will check raiderio I guess

[wary needle]

think signet is up there then

[viral locust]

Mechano, funhouse and energy drink good from delves too if you don't raid

[viral locust]

Kezan loses a lot of value in m+ if you can't keep the stacks up, long moves between packs or tank pulling slowly

[heady shale]

Thanks. Still tank muscle memory, so I put Die by the Sword on Shield Wall and Cleave on Revenge binds

[sacred zodiac]

wtf are you saying

oh you literally just read off of bloodmallet

please don't do that

[dim basalt]

It's not and has never been

[wary needle]

i think BM is decent to get a quick glance if you dont want to sim, but its not a good source, no

[dim basalt]

Why check BM if you can also just check guides?????

Why do people do anything but read guides holy fuck

[quaint otter]

not really

murlok.io better to check what is usable

[balmy kindle]

Warrior trink choice be like : it's all delves and pacemaker though

[south nebula]

Why are ppl playing colossus for Bandit Mythic but slayer for Hc?

[quasi torrent]

cause hc add dmg requirement doesnt exist

[south nebula]

Oh

[quasi torrent]

u can absolutely play slarms on mythic tho

[south nebula]

I see ty

[lunar remnant]

what do you guys set your ground clutter to?

1 feels so nakey

[fresh spire]

in raids there isn't any reason to ever have those drag bars above 1

[swift crown]

Especially next week

Anda thoughts on SL Arms on Bandit

No EP no Jugg

[halcyon breach]

Trinket comparison in a vacuum with a preset of gear that I will never acquire is very important for me to judge if a trinket will be good for me or not

[sacred zodiac]

especially when the question was m+ oriented

[halcyon breach]

Didn't read that far

I just saw a red picture and had to reply to it

[sacred zodiac]

how nice!

[swift crown]

Catch me using Viscera over Energy Drink in keys

[sacred zodiac]

viscera is actually really good since enemies will go into execute desynced so you have more viscera execute uptime

[swift crown]

...

Trolling people who can't read

Like me

[quasi torrent]

col no ep no jugg is good honestly

[halcyon breach]

Col with EP + Jugg is good (for P2 damage) and feels great (awful) in P1

[quasi torrent]

not me playing more haste crit than sim wants

so i can cdr more consistently

[sacred zodiac]

wdym i am having insane fun dropping jugg

[halcyon breach]

I just went full crit flask for kill

Because I didn't have BL

Any bit of CDR was massive

[halcyon breach]

Gonna be honest I didn't even bother trying to stack my Jugg before P2 because we held damage anyway

But Jugg maxing on Mugzee however is pure CBT 👍

[sacred zodiac]

idk what i did im p sure i was the one to call out boss hp cause no one else was

[sacred zodiac]

at least its easier

sweep executes off of the mines

(Real)

[halcyon breach]

Sure but if you hold damage like we do at 40% then you are at a very high risk of losing Jugg

Mines take no damage

idiot

[sacred zodiac]

true

[halcyon breach]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711337973274378270/1351661979298697226/ezgif-12920d43fa19c4.gif

[sacred zodiac]

Yes they do

liar liar

ouchie

[swift crown]

You said 'watch boss HP' at 46% or something

[sacred zodiac]

i said espen watch hp

!

hold on please i am simulationcrafting

(it will be upgrade shoulder and gloves once)

[swift crown]

Can you help me simulate my character Spongie

[sacred zodiac]

no but can you help me?

[quasi torrent]

useful call for sure

[swift crown]

<- this is said character

[quasi torrent]

her vs him

[sacred zodiac]

it is if your guild simply continues pressing damaging abilities before the agreed upon push point

so you lust with no cds and all your defensive utility is misaligned

(i didnt rally once in p2 since it was never up :) )

[swift crown]

I mean

We pushed 5s before timer

Legit was good?

[quasi torrent]

me when 2 people die during dmg stop afk phase

[sacred zodiac]

i cant rally if we do that

[quasi torrent]

very usefuil

[halcyon breach]

The scary part of P2 mostly is when the coils go out and if tank decides to rip the entire group in half with a beam

[sacred zodiac]

i think this is a very funny instance

[halcyon breach]

It might've happened to us once when a tank got bonked by a flame by accident

[swift crown]

Don't get bonkadonkd

[halcyon breach]

I do not envy tanking ever

They're both doing gods work

[swift crown]

Schmidtdød

[sacred zodiac]

cant reach 669 this week

why bother

[halcyon breach]

Not being 669 yet?

noober

[quasi torrent]

gg

[sacred zodiac]

maybe we kill mugzee 70->0 today and i take neck and trinket

[halcyon breach]

This is possible

[swift crown]

Possible

[sacred zodiac]

possible and realistic

[icy mulch]

well one of those.

[calm isle]

Hey fam, been simming all morning, is having one of each color gem for my blasphemite actually good, or just sim bait

[sacred zodiac]

if it sims as a dps increase it will be one

some of us dont bother tho

[latent moss]

I MIGHT SWERVE BEND THAT CORNER WHOAAA

[calm isle]

Yea just checking, I know some citrine/trinkets are bait, wasnt sure if this gem was the same

Thanks!

[sacred zodiac]

which citrine is bait am i clueless

[calm isle]

I'm in a tight race with two other arms warriors in my guild, so trying to eek out every bit of dmg

[halcyon breach]

You will beat them by pressing your buttons better, more so than figuring out any 0.1-0.2% increases in your gear

[sacred zodiac]

for example @swift crown has better gear than me and presses buttons harder so i cant win

[calm isle]

Yea i'm working on that too, but had 30min at work to sim etc, figured id do it

Not trying to replace skill with min maxing, but min maxing is fun when i'm sitting at a desk waiting for my relief 🙂

[swift crown]

Bro has better gear than me but I can't refute as gaslighting is not real

[naive breach]

everyone should play monk and shaman next to brown man

[quasi torrent]

he shrimply cant accept that an officer would take his raidspoit

[icy mulch]

I seem to be the only warrior on my raid team.

[naive sage]

They're racist (no room for brown men)

[naive breach]

no country for brown men ( level red class)

[icy mulch]

Nah, I only play warrior. Not a FOTM chaser.

[swift crown]

I have only played Warrior in my LIFE

[naive breach]

want to gear mine to fuck around a bit

never abandon the brown man tho

[halcyon breach]

Schmidi only plays classes with War in the prefix (warlock player)

[swift crown]

Warladin

Warman

[naive breach]

[swift crown]

True only War- classes

[naive breach]

Ewarker

How long until Aug comes back

[latent moss]

4900 years

[quasi torrent]

aug is honestly quite playable in raid

[icy mulch]

Hopefully when they also add Tinker, Astrologist, and other support classes.

[quasi torrent]

its just effort compared to deva (braindead dogshit)

[icy mulch]

I honestly don't think support role works in WoW, but they already opened that pandora's box.

[naive breach]

ASTROLOGIST ??

Pog

cant wait for all star augur names

[dim basalt]

It definitely does work but they need a proper concept

Aug just did everything

[icy mulch]

No idea when or if any of the 4 new classes hinted at will come out. They sound cool though.

[dim basalt]

Buffing dps damage, tank tankiness, utility all at once is just too much

[icy mulch]

Yeah, it just exacerbated the meta and screwed what semblance of balance the game has.

[naive breach]

give me my crit banner first

then i will allow new classes

[icy mulch]

Give warrior lust and un-nerf our aoe cool downs. Then bring new stuff.

[peak jacinth]

Astrology? Even in a fantasy game, there are limits to how much made up nonsense should be allowed. 😉

[dim basalt]

❓

any poe2 gamers here who can tell me how miserable I will feel playing this season

[naive sage]

What do you mean

Astrologist is a classic rpg class

[dim basalt]

He was attempting to make a joke

Was a really bad one tho

[naive breach]

yes

very

nerfed everything

[dim basalt]

I was thinking of trying the new warrior asc

Sounds very fun

And at some points I need to get into poe, poe1 was too bloated at some point so I didnt have the motivation for it and poe2 is a great start imo

[icy mulch]

I'm not the one making em, lol. They could name it something different though, Star seer, Mystic, whatever fantasy mumbo-jumbo you want to relabel it as.

[naive breach]

the release was kinda fun cuz nobody knew shit at first, or very few players only

read a fuckton of nerfs for everything for hunt release now, insta turn off for me

but if you never played poe1, 2 is the place to start fucking around with your own builds right now

[swift crown]

Do not try the smithing thing

That might be the worst thing I've seen happen

The ascendancy is probably solid cause you can just take Chieftain fire res line and the White Chest thingies

But the smithing.. jesus

[dim basalt]

Yeah I wasnt going to try that thing, seen clips already haha

[swift crown]

Quin was blasting with it

(50% DPS downtime to smith)

[dim basalt]

Was hilarious to watch

[swift crown]

But yea ascendancy is still solid, you lose chest for basically 150% res, max res, +2 things that can be whatever you want

Seems good

First ascendancy caps you in 2 resists for a chest slot

[lost forum]

I've been looking at some videos and alot of people have a WA that tells them (in words) that tactician or sudden death procs. Does anyone know how to get that?

[gray herald]

Bleed huntress feels good but I cba to play

[fair tinsel]

Any dungeons in rotation that seem like "swap to fury" dungeons? Trying to figure what I switch off for

[peak jacinth]

Not nearly as bad as people that still think Astrology is a thing. And I've been playing RPGs my whole life, never had one with an "Astrologist" as a class. But w/e...

[dim basalt]

Only Theatre

[quaint otter]

even theatre

arms does better

[fair tinsel]

Yea I felt kinda dinky as fury in theater since there are some pulls to pad on

Well, clearing the dungeon doesn't= bad

pad*

words.

Fury felt ok in darkflame somehow even though heaps of adds per pull which makes no sense tome

to me*

was half considering fury for workshop but that first pull, lmao

[naive sage]

Elden Ring
Dark Souls 3 too iirc
First examples coming to my mind

[quaint otter]

those are not actually rpgs

more like action games

the class doesnt matter a shit there

[eager sigil]

rpg =/= classes

skyrim doesnt have classes

[teal fossil]

older fallouts are rpgs

no classes there either

[naive breach]

new vegas

[teal fossil]

though most rpgs have archetypes

which are just more fluid classes

[slow saddle]

Dfc somehow feels horrid as arms

[fair tinsel]

I noticed as fury I was beating uncapped specs

maybe it's because all the "big" pulls there are heaps of low hp adds

was beating retri etc

although maybe they just weren't padding hard enough, final reck etc

[slow saddle]

Its just the start pulls

Mobs being fling everywhere

In pugs

Id rsther just furu

[hidden stag]

Hi gang, just picking up arms and was hoping for a quick clarification. Just reading the wowhead guide, the impression I'm getting is during sweeping strikes, cleave falls to lower priority? or does the priority list just stay the same regardless of sweeping strikes being active?

[limber swan]

yeah i compared the top parse on warcraftlogs for both arms and fury in m+ 14 keys, and was suprised how close DFC was between the 2.

Obviously with the caveats, its m+ logs (not everyone logs) and havily dependant on pull size etc

[slow saddle]

I reckon most big mobs

Are so big

[warped willow]

New to the game. I’m sitting at 639 ilevel but can’t get into hardly any mythics past 3 without spending hours trying and won’t get invited to heroic raid pugs. Is this just the life of a warrior or am I missing something?

[rare kite]

You're very low ilvl and a dps

Do your own key

[nova marsh]

Do delves first. What key levels are you applying to? Start at 2s to build io and slowly work up from there

[lean wraith]

can someone explain to me why its telling my my trinks in different sockets makes a diff?

[quasi torrent]

its within margin practically

it doesnt actually make a diff

[sage badge]

If it's two on-use trinkets, which I don't think it is (I dunno, I don't play much), the top trinket will always go first. So could be a difference in sims if that's the case. Otherwise, what anda said. Doesn't matter, just an average over a bunch of iterations.

[quasi torrent]

atleast fury has trinket variables

surely arms does too now...

(it should use stuff like stat on use trinkets with CDs, dmg on use trinkets outside of cds etc)

[sage badge]

Probably does, I haven't looked

[quasi torrent]

trinket automagic moment

[sage badge]

actions.precombat+=/variable,name=trinket_2_buffs,value=trinket.2.has_use_buff|(trinket.2.has_stat.any_dps&!variable.trinket_2_exclude)```
Yeah seems that way from reading this and how the variables are set up. Uses anything with a buff first.

I guess if you were to use two trinkets that provides buffs, then it's just in order. But, in practicality, you'd most likely just use one active one passive.

[quasi torrent]

yee so the first two ones (funhouse + hoc) should go
funhouse -> hoc
hoc -> funhouse
and then the next 2 (hoc + noggen) should always go
hoc -> noggen

[lean wraith]

@sage badge aaaaaaaaah thankyou

this is it

they are indeed both on use

[dapper galleon]

Started gearing warrior alt is arms still better than fury?

Haven’t kept up with zugbois

[stable fiber]

really depends on what you want to achieve

high m+? chill raiding? myth raid?

ig its a alt

[lean wraith]

the thing is, the first passive/active combo on that list is 50k dps los

[stable fiber]

play whatever is more fun

arms and fury pretty close in raid, arms better by a decent margin in m+

[slow saddle]

Nah

Its a different profile

Not significantly better, exept if all u measure is overall

[halcyon valve]

Always

[naive breach]

ms>op>cleave

[hidden stag]

thanks a gon!!

ton* even

[naive breach]

on like 2-3 targets tho

[slow saddle]

In aoe cleave > op > ms or?

[naive breach]

if you have 10 mobs in there you dont ms>op>cleave

[hidden stag]

just full send cleave then?

at large target counts that is

[dapper galleon]

How accurate is hekili for learning arms?

[slow saddle]

I do

[slow saddle]

Not

[dapper galleon]

First time I’ve ever tried arms

[slow saddle]

Its prio based

[dapper galleon]

I am but a fury simpleton

[slow saddle]

So hekili is a bad idea

Raid or m+

[naive breach]

ye large target counts cleave is your best button

[dapper galleon]

Aight

[calm hollow]

is it not Cleave>MS>OP on aoe?

to reduce demolish

[naive breach]

ye cleave>ms>op

[slow saddle]

Hnm biz seems empower his cleaves

[naive breach]

is at least what i do

[stable fiber]

i empower my cleaves as well

[naive breach]

i do 2 overpower before ss runs out so you get a cleave buff

[stable fiber]

instead of going full apeshit

[naive breach]

maybe its gain to OP the cleaves

im not smart enough for that

[slow saddle]

Tbh m8

I just send

[latent moss]

u only setup

cd cleave

regular cleave u just spam

regardless of op

[stable fiber]

^

[slow saddle]

Well

Cleave on cd

[latent moss]

but u really want to setup ur cd cleave

ravager demolish debuff

all of it

[slow saddle]

U got ms or op

[latent moss]

cleave>ms>op

always

[naive breach]

do you mean CD cleave as in youre in avatar and ravager up or

[latent moss]

collateral damage

[naive breach]

aye

ye thats the one i buff aswell

[slow saddle]

Worst talent

[latent moss]

if u have nothing coming up u just send after u wb and demo

dont hold for ravager

[stable fiber]

i fw cd heavy

[naive breach]

the best feeling man

[latent moss]

there is prob some magic number

[stable fiber]

idk about u but i fucking love hitting 15m cleaves

[naive breach]

having 15 stacks of collateral

[latent moss]

i mean

what they could do

[naive breach]

wb 10 stacks of demolisher and ravager ready for next pull

[latent moss]

is like cold blood for rogues

u press it ur next cleave does more damage

[stable fiber]

on big momma in floodgate i hit a 25m single target cleave

[latent moss]

so u have it on opener instead of next pack

[stable fiber]

cant tell me thats not a good feeling

[slow saddle]

Tbh avatar should give insta 10 stacks for demo!

[tough tangle]

lol

[naive breach]

buff arms

[stable fiber]

i feel like this would only matter on pull

[latent moss]

this and cd being a buff u just press and it gives u damage

[stable fiber]

then it just doenst matter

[latent moss]

on ur next cleave

first pull cinderbrew

[naive breach]

give us the blood is life

[latent moss]

better stack ur shit prepull :chatting:

[naive breach]

we are the real bleed class in this game (after feral )

[latent moss]

[slow saddle]

Loads of skips

But its.mainly just for qol

[stable fiber]

icic

[slow saddle]

Hmm but it would mby make us

Nah nwm

[naive breach]

we can be kinda happE how warrior specs are rn

if we get more we get the 10 nerfs back 2 back treatment again

[slow saddle]

Agreed

[stable fiber]

they wont nerf arms

[slow saddle]

Id like em to buff bladestorm

And odyna fury

[naive breach]

the storm of blades on the other hand

[slow saddle]

• roar

[naive breach]

that is another story

[stable fiber]

i could see them gutting fury randomly though for some reason

[naive breach]

fury single target kinda fucks

did 1 top this season as fury

[slow saddle]

Slayer st

[shadow ibex]

roar and spear can stay bad

make spear into ursols vortex

put spear dps nodes under avatar

[naive breach]

MoP classic soon

[shadow ibex]

done

[naive breach]

crit dmg banner

next patch

[slow saddle]

Dks gonna get a raid bufd

[calm hollow]

only if they are like Necro banner

cba placing banners on ground

[slow saddle]

Wtb necro banner

Instead of roar

[calm hollow]

roar is cosmetic

[naive breach]

as much as i hate the give warrior bloodlust debate

if we had bloodlust i'd get more invites

[slow saddle]

Would be nice

In 6-10 range

It would matywr

[unkempt wren]

Which covers a ton of the playerbase, and gives lust to a tank

[slow saddle]

Fuck prot

Lock it to dpsees

[dapper galleon]

Bloodlust makes more sense for warrior than like any other class

Thematically

But blizz gonna blizz

[shadow ibex]

i dont want bloodlust ill take more dmg

[naive breach]

my brother in christ

[lethal acorn]

3Kio solo Undead Arms Warrior, 98% pugging all keys

My ML was ++12

[naive breach]

undead gigachad

[shadow ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382364354202304523/1091454793588932648/ezgif-3-af1195d740_11.gif

[reef glade]

undead is vital there

[inland drift]

gg

[lethal acorn]

It's true

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxb2o-KYRUcevq7zmAAnxShp4kjBG3uhDR?feature=shared

27th in my realm too for my spec, I got #1 during shadowlands season 1 at one point but fell to #21

[spiral coral]

What about a Lust Flask?

[tacit crystal]

@latent moss what if you just play this int op

[shadow ibex]

may as well grab ep over sks

or fatality

[tacit crystal]

nah sks cranks

maybe ep if you play sd over slam on cleave

[shadow ibex]

if u didnt play fob would probably drop imp execute

cooldown remove is irrelevant for colossus

and refund dont matter

[tacit crystal]

this has to own

[naive sage]

Please drop the Tom gif reacting to stats

[shadow ibex]

drop imp exe

for surge

[naive sage]

The one where he is on the rails

[thick kelp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[naive sage]

Ty king

[shadow ibex]

dont need imp exe and would need something for rage

[languid blaze]

I finally unlocked t8 delves. My ilvl is 627. Is it tough to run under the recommended ilvl or should I stick to t7

[naive sage]

Delves are very easy this season

[tacit crystal]

which impr exe

[manic stirrup]

holy necrolord posting this jaunt from shadowlanss

still relevant though lmfao

[tacit crystal]

i tried playing ff

had 0 clue what i was doing

[shadow ibex]

above sd

[lyric horizon]

question about execute phase, when wowanalyzer says this about overpower does it mean 2x execute, 2x overpower, then mortal strike?

i think i worded that awfully lol

am i supposed to stack up martial prowess when in execute range before casting mortal strike assuming i have 2 overpowers available?

[slow saddle]

No

[umbral merlin]

hi guys where can i find a good beginner guide or just a skill priority? i just started playing arms

[lean geode]

"Use your opportunist OP as long as you aren't already at 2 stacks of Martial Prowess"

And if you're playing rav then there's an additional rage check but that's an edge case

[lyric horizon]

ok, and if i dont have opp up i just proceed normally?

[slow saddle]

Ms if 2 ep unless op is up

[lean geode]

yes

[lyric horizon]

ie 2x execute then mortal strike?

[lean geode]

MS has 3 globals in between

[slow saddle]

In,theory y, but exe will proc op

[lean geode]

Generally you want 2 of those to be exe

[lyric horizon]

in terms of rotation this is consistently the part where im lacking, just not getting something about execute phase lol

[lean geode]

For the most part you can MS > exe > exe > OP > MS and you'll be close enough

[slow saddle]

Basicly exe-exe-op-ms if

Lol

What he said

[lean geode]

If no opportunist proc and you're high on rage, you can MS > exe > exe > exe > MS

[lyric horizon]

i see, and how does something like bladestorm fit into execute phase? i feel like its kinda awkward to use lol

[lean geode]

Only BS during CS with 2xEP going into it

[lyric horizon]

aight, tyty 🙂

[fresh spire]

use it as a certified ms

[slow saddle]

Tbh fuck bladestorm as arms

[naive breach]

krisp

youre not a fishy

wdym

[toxic socket]

whats better for rook? fury or arms?

[tacit crystal]

wtv you have fun with

[tacit crystal]

with spear as well surely

[shadow ibex]

still too many in first row

[stable fiber]

i want to try spear in m+ instead of troar

for colossus

noting will stop me