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boreal quartz
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Entire key even

thick kelp
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What do u think of my home made static locaiton uhdk pack

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(uuf is goated)

atomic mountain
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friend of mine got on his 615 GS Monk tank HoC on HC .....

boreal quartz
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Id put wounds where execute is

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Personally

boreal quartz
thick kelp
boreal quartz
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Also idk if ur buffs are same font as rest

thick kelp
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probably not

boreal quartz
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I kinda liked that approach

thick kelp
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I just put everything together and didnt fine tune

boreal quartz
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Idk if you can just put a number on the ingame proc alert for coil free

thick kelp
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I could I think

boreal quartz
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Also dont u track death rot or whatever on uh

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Ion play that spec

thick kelp
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idk mots packs do but

boreal quartz
thick kelp
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It just procs from consuming sudden doom

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so its kinda obvious when u got it going

atomic mountain
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have i skilled something wrong?

boreal quartz
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U track

atomic mountain
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oh wow you talk DK shit here....

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nvm

thick kelp
boreal quartz
thick kelp
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probably putting it nxt to the plaguebuff

atomic mountain
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mby i ask for advide in holy pal channel πŸ˜„

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how much % crit do we aim for (realistic)

halcyon breach
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Just sim yourself in top gear and use whatever it recommends

atomic mountain
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kk

tacit crystal
thick kelp
boreal quartz
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He's trying to do goober conditions to unload it

thick kelp
tacit crystal
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it doesnt work

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its so big

atomic mountain
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do we take warlord or blademaster?

tacit crystal
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up to you

atomic mountain
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isnt 1 stronger?

thick kelp
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both have their uses

atomic mountain
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just asking cause i see more running blademaster than warlord in higher keys

tacit crystal
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more aoe and less st

atomic mountain
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so i kinda want to play both and decide what i play based on comb?

manic stirrup
tacit crystal
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choco

manic stirrup
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full dungeon vs first pull next key

tacit crystal
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i only press dc/epi when sd during aoe right

manic stirrup
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until youre out of runes yeah

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theres a couple things you can game but thats generally how it goes

tacit crystal
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like wa

manic stirrup
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stacking 2x sudden doom is very slightly better than using it immediately

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if you only have 1 rune you can use a spender to get runic corruption to then use more runes faster

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if that makes sense

tacit crystal
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ah

atomic mountain
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i play tank and arms. got myth shield and 1h + crafted 2h. what is the best loot spec to choose on reset?

tacit crystal
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what do you want

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like

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do you want a m 2h

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a 1h

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a tank trinekt

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dps trinket

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jsut depends

atomic mountain
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well pacemaker dropps for both i dont need wep slots. thats why i am asking XD
have pacemaker hc, Kodex HC, Red button HC and signet champ. and that is what i am mainly aiming for or myth set

tacit crystal
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Do you want the tank trinket as well

atomic mountain
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didnt need 1 jet but i dont know what will come. thats why i ask. XD i want both thats the problem

hasty pelican
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priory tome is prot and if you did gally the bombsuit is prot

tacit crystal
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if you want the highest chance of dps trinket its arms

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or of anything dps related

snow flame
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it fucks

smoky kayak
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so it'll show you exactly what drops for Arms, Prot, or Fury, and you can then decide which loot spec is best for which dungeon/raid encounter

lethal isle
molten marsh
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hey anyone know the name of the weakaura/addon that plays a sound when youre targeted by a spell cast? whiirrreeeww kinda sound i guess haha

smoky kayak
smoky kayak
molten marsh
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oh nice i didnt know it had a sound option ty archi!

inland drift
snow flame
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it's a blast

inland drift
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tempted between that and hunter, but on dk i already got the ring,

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wonder if unholy and blood share same stats

fresh spire
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Doesn't unholy only want mastery and haste where blood wants crit?

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Think crit is insane bad stat for unholy

void bay
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unholy wasnt in RWF so its unviable

inland drift
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but unholy doesnt have lust like hunter ;-;

void bay
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I like hunter because I have cool animal friends to go on adventures with

smoky kayak
astral yarrow
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gottem

void bay
thick kelp
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my uh split chara had 0 versa 0 crit in s1 crafted

void bay
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is UH as easy to play as frost?

quaint otter
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yep

thick kelp
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easier even

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u dont need to tab target to shatter

void bay
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hmmm

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maybe ill give it a go

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frost was kinda fun til i played fury then I just preferred that

dim basalt
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UH is really simple but still fun

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Wish they would get rid of cd bloats tho

smoky kayak
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think that's a problem with a lot of classes, including Warrior

dim basalt
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absolutely

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At least avatar is not on the gcd lol

smoky kayak
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honestly, I was completely fine with putting cooldowns back on the GCD in BfA

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if they just added a worthwhile effect to justify it

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like Recklessness could have easily just auto-cast a free Rampage on the GCD, and it would have been absolutely fine, even better than what we currently have

dim basalt
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Adding something like that to every cd does sound a bit bad imo

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Because then its just some kind of bandaid fix and you will end up with things like "wow combution shoots an instant pyro" and so on

smoky kayak
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I mean if it's gonna be something you do anyway, I don't see the hurt in it

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obviously contextual depending on the class/spec, it's not always going to be "send your biggest ability"

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Rampage fits because the whole point of Reck is to build up a Ramp and get Enrage

dim basalt
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If (almost) every cd has something like that then whats the point

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Might as well just give 1s increased duration to every cd

smoky kayak
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I mean that's what they did for a lot of them

dim basalt
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Or buff any other talent to make up for it

smoky kayak
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and people hated it, because despite compensating for the time, it's not very interactive; it's still a dead global

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the point is to make the keypress do something with immediate feedback, not just be a series of "prepare to prepare to prepare to deal damage" buttons

dim basalt
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Only works if theres a fitting ability though

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Like, reck + rampage for fury is pretty much a perfect example of it being good

smoky kayak
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I'm fairly certain something could b e found for the majority

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also Fury didn't have Avatar at the time; multi-cd specs are a little more difficult

dim basalt
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I wouldnt know what Arms could get that would feel good

zealous pivot
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warbreaker casts odyns fury

smoky kayak
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Well, CS/Warbreaker comes to mind, though a little odd in the sense that you would then have a second one (the actual CD) ready to go

thick kelp
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cs grants reck

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mhm

dim basalt
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Sure cs would work but you figured it would be odd

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But then again, arms is also really outdated

smoky kayak
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it'd only be odd that you'd press Avatar, get the CS effect, and then have CS still ready (pressing again would be redundant)

But then if you make them extend duration, so that pressing CS made it a 20s debuff to match Avatar, instead of the normal 10s

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that'd be pretty good

dim basalt
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If arms ever gets a rework we might get another resource to play around

smoky kayak
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every 1.5m you get 20s of CS, every 45s during the off cycle you get 10; I don't hate that at all

dim basalt
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Or rather, make MP an actual resource

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Kind of like how tips work for SV

smoky kayak
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Warriors aren't getting a second resource

dim basalt
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Except we only buff MS

thick kelp
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second resources are cringe

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anw

dim basalt
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idk feels really nice on Survival

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But its easy to fuck up ig

smoky kayak
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cause the spec is already cringe keks

dim basalt
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They hit the mark well in S1 and now its kind of whatever because they just make the resource meaningless

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Its also not cringe ragey

smoky kayak
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my typical thought is that resources in WoW are the kind of thing that shouldn't matter until they matter

  • e.g. Rage shouldn't be an ever-present concern and should mostly handle itself
dim basalt
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Was easily the best designed melee spec last season

smoky kayak
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because you only really have two options - either the resource takes care of itself, or you give players tools to take care of it
which is to say that if you want Arms to worry about rage capping or starving, you need to give them tools to quickly generate or spend rage, which is just more buttons and abilities to juggle

dim basalt
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You could also have both

smoky kayak
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and I don't necessarily mind that, but they're not just going to add Heroic Strike back into the mix without gutting some other stuff to make room for it

dim basalt
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A resource (rage) that plays itself if youre not completely dumb and a resource you can play around

smoky kayak
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I mean that's basically what we have right now

atomic mountain
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how do we play around our 4p? just stack it with our normal rotation or do we aim to hit the bonus fast?

dim basalt
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Sure but its clunky

smoky kayak
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I don't see why

smoky kayak
dim basalt
atomic mountain
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perfekt

bleak fog
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Hmm... Trinkets.. MoK 639 vs Grim 655.. 6 target 1 min..

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atomic mountain
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just like last season πŸ™‚

bleak fog
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Should't Grim win that sim?

dim basalt
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Last season you played around 4p tho

atomic mountain
dim basalt
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Maybe with being able to store more stacks that are less effective each

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

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So you end up min-maxing these stacks to maximize MS / cleave damage

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But obviously you would have to re-do a lot of talents

atomic mountain
smoky kayak
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eh, idk it sounds like you're just looking for more complicated gameplay in general

dim basalt
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Kind of?

smoky kayak
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which I mean is fine, but WoW classes aren't really built with the intent of having complicated rotations anymore

dim basalt
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I do think this spec could use some more depth

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Doesnt mean the added depth has to be really hard

atomic mountain
smoky kayak
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lol some of them yeah

dim basalt
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Havoc opener πŸ’€

smoky kayak
atomic mountain
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DF arcane mage XD

atomic mountain
smoky kayak
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and it often means more weakauras doing it for you

dim basalt
smoky kayak
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one of the reasons people find classes so easy and unengaging is cause they have WAs telling them what to do all the time and they're just playing simon says

atomic mountain
smoky kayak
dim basalt
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Fair point

smoky kayak
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and the counterpoint to that question is "if it's so niche min/max, does it really need to exist at all?"

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see: the amount of stuff I've cut out of APLs cause it's like 0.1% increase for 3 extra lines

dim basalt
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Which is what we have in M+ right now too

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1T vs 2T vs 3T+ rotation

smoky kayak
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some of it is, some isn't

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the 2T stuff does matter, cause Sweeping Strikes

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I'd be just as happy if Sweep were perma-baseline

dim basalt
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agree

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Tho that would mean no satisfying CD cleaves

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Unless you make it a buff that just triggers every 30s

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Would feel bad tho

steel sluice
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I can't remember what xpac but wasn't it something you could click on and off but it reduced your dmg by w/e %

ripe quartz
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Just calculate how much SS gives to cleave and buff it accordingly

steel sluice
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Ss that is

ripe quartz
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I would vote for perma SS

dim basalt
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MM has a cooler SS sadge

quaint otter
dim basalt
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wdym no

quaint otter
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Its a choice between trickshots

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So is suck

dim basalt
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I wasnt talking about the choice they have to make

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Just the talent itself

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If they had both that would be stupid

quaint otter
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There re some cool talents but ass to take

quaint otter
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Or passively hit 2

smoky kayak
quaint otter
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Dumb choice

ripe quartz
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At least as a talent node

smoky kayak
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it's kinda janky to use anyway, since you want Deep Wounds up before using it on a fresh pack, yet the ability that consumes it is also the one that applies Deep Wounds (sans cooldowns)

steel sluice
smoky kayak
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not as I recall dracthyr_shrug

dim basalt
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Maybe they could add CD in a different way

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Like on warbreaker with an auto-cast cleave when it runs out or so

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But that would bring different issues

boreal remnant
daring heron
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i ended priory at 4.7m dps yesterday and i was still 3rd dps

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feelsbadman

atomic mountain
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and i was happy that i just hit 3,1 on a 10 XD

slow saddle
smoky kayak
daring heron
slow saddle
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yeah ok i mean

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were u close πŸ˜„ coz then goddangit u did a good job

daring heron
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pretty close yea

slow saddle
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Good job ngl

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thats crazy

dim basalt
steep osprey
slow saddle
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i mean they get blade flurry its a toggle now no ?

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how can arms not have same ?:D

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obviously with less targets πŸ˜„

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7 target mortal strikes, dont wanna be balanced round that

inland drift
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;-; i feel ya

smoky kayak
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key to remember that it needs a downside though, when it was a toggle, Blade Flurry's downside was draining energy while active

hasty kindle
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what is the good percentage for the warrior arms stats ?

sterile linden
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What weak auras do you all use to track procs? Just curious

slow saddle
icy mulch
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@vital flame SynthRiders time.
anyone can join and watch if they want

lunar remnant
sacred zodiac
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@tacit crystal

swift crown
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Spongie is Schmidi theory

quasi torrent
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never seen u 2 in the same room

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just schmidi

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hmmm

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i can refute schmidi is toph theory tho

swift crown
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Toph is Anda theory also refuted

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And Toph can refute Anda is Schmidi theory

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bit of a triangle

quasi torrent
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i think this just confirms

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anda = toph = schmidi ?

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proof by circular reference

halcyon breach
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Proof by intimidation

blissful sentinel
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In execute range what's the prio??

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Nvm can ignore found a guide

slow saddle
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Wowhead

blissful sentinel
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+1

astral yarrow
fallen agate
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Really wish they would take Sweeping Strikes off the GCD.

shadow ibex
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Maybe when more than 13 people play this spec

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Until then they gonna get away with a lot of shit like spiteful and dance

fresh spire
astral yarrow
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but fr tho what is execute prio

dim basalt
shadow ibex
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Just get a weak aura to track the conditions that make exe press good

vestal isle
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pugged 3000 first season on arms & warrior pretty much LFGGGGGG

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halcyon valve
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Officers keep begging me to sign up for raids
I guess there truly is no rest for the wicked wicked

tacit crystal
icy mulch
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No problem. I did about 40 mins. I don't think anyone popped in. Much Lyndsey Stirling was heard.

tacit crystal
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w

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my dog aggresively barked at me when i slightly showed signs of waking up and i woke up

icy mulch
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lol

olive nest
vestal isle
swift crown
sacred zodiac
tacit crystal
swift crown
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Thanks Gio

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Finally woke up

icy mulch
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Holy shit

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Unholy DK with PI is impossible to keep up with.

tacit crystal
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did you see the image i shared

icy mulch
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Nope

tacit crystal
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.

icy mulch
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Yeah, between the Enhance shaman and the DK there was absolutely nothing for me to pad on.

stuck sequoia
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for M+
do I just rip the first demolish at 3 stack?

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tacit crystal
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aim for 10

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if you cant reach before cs ends send as its ending

stuck sequoia
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ok

quaint otter
arctic iris
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On AoE, you will generally build stacks very fast between cleave, Ravager MS procs, and MS casts, so you should have an easy time reaching 10 stacks before CS expires

quaint otter
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ms gives 4 stacks tho

stuck sequoia
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I should be trying to build stack while the tank gathers right? do I want to pop sweeping strike during the gather phase?

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or sweeping strike should be saved for when everything is gathered?

quaint otter
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ull get meleed

stuck sequoia
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I mean not a run by gather, like 1 blood boil

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or 1 thunder clap

sacred zodiac
quaint otter
sacred zodiac
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True you have battle cry

dim basalt
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Otherwise you can build stacks with SS yeah

nova marsh
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Shit is very busted

cinder dove
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quick question: does blademaster SS stacks with normal SS?

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or it gets overwritten?

grand idol
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Stacks

cinder dove
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nice, ty

normal mason
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Stacks but not sure if it’s better to wait for avatar sweep to end to buff the cleave then re-do sweep for it to stack to another buffed cleave when that ends

wanton sierra
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hey, best in slot heroic is better than myth weap ?

fresh spire
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Nopw

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Mythic best in slots>mythic weapon>heroic best in slots>heroic weapon

wanton sierra
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damn nice! i just dropped best in slot in pug! XD got lucky

fresh spire
wanton sierra
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droppped yesterday, binded it to warbreaker

fresh spire
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Still good to use until you vault one/can use it in offhand fury for a while

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(Not sure how mythic track off hand is vs hc bis)

wanton sierra
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eeeew off hand fury?

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im arms

fresh spire
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More of a

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If you play both kinda moment

wanton sierra
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hehehe just messing around, i might try it on, for sure

charred shoal
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anyone played around with champions spear

quasi torrent
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dont bother

tacit crystal
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lord andussy

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im going to play spear no bleeds

quasi torrent
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youre not allowed to use that

tacit crystal
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with ep

charred brook
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Ban him

tacit crystal
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im going to do a 10

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right now

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surely i go rav cs spear demo

tacit crystal
swift crown
tacit crystal
swift crown
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Gio aka Galastronk aka banned from Skyhold

tacit crystal
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dont do me like pauckus

swift crown
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Why does your build have Rend

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and Bloodsurge

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Go Sudden Death Massacre coward

quasi torrent
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i think u go mass jugg

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no EP

swift crown
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heilige basiert

icy mulch
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Spear, for dps? So you super crit 5 targets. Seems like giving up a lot for it >,<

tacit crystal
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bloodsurge is rage

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?

swift crown
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Bleed based Rage

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get out

tacit crystal
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you think this

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surely

swift crown
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perfection

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now withstand the urge to press TClap

tacit crystal
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i almost forgot to change bleed for ep

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i forgot to change collat to long sweep for top

latent moss
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xd

charred brook
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any warrior streams that are progging 1 armed currently

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like not at this moment but

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this week

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i need to watch some POVs

tough tangle
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Gentlemen I’ve tried colossus in two keys now and I’m never looking back again RIP fury lmao

olive nest
thick kelp
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on it

charred brook
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col

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im only like 10-15 pulls so far

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going back in tomorrow

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just want to see if theres any weird timings

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i just found tmys stream so ill check this out

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i had this weird idea like a week ago

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that u could pre sweeping strikes

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to hit the 3 adds at start

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and have it back up

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i wanna try it

tacit crystal
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i just tried to press tc

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😦

thick kelp
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go watch GigaDC pov

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like 13 days ago

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he played colossus on it

minor gust
charred brook
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dont make fun of me

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i thought i was cooking

minor gust
charred brook
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p sure i just played fury on heroic

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adds die insta

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this rat tmy is playing slayer

thick kelp
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twtv/gigadc

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should find

charred brook
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yeah

thick kelp
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colossus pov

charred brook
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i watch that

thick kelp
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from fsy warrior

minor gust
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Is Colossus even worth on OAB after the nerfs

charred brook
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Idk i was thinking like

minor gust
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Didn't they shit on the add health

charred brook
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I FEEL like fury would be better at this point

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we have so much more damage now that like

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idk if add damage or execute is important rly anymore

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shit just dies

minor gust
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That might be true slam fury now and vibe

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Just cleave off the boss the whole time

lean geode
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@magic canopy played thane I think

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But he said it was kinda shit

charred brook
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he also played MT fury

lean geode
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At this point it might just be a raid comp diff

charred brook
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i feel like slayer fury would fuck

minor gust
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I'm just gonna play slayer arms when we get there

magic canopy
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split the dif between boss danage and add damage

minor gust
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Had our first full sprocket prog last night got him to 35%

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Should die this week

charred brook
magic canopy
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if we had a second ww monk i would have played colossus arms on One armed

charred brook
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sprocket was one of those bosses where it feels that way

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but then it takes another 50 pulls

magic canopy
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but without it the aoe burst of then + 2 target + decent execute was the right call

minor gust
tacit crystal
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i forghot to press epar

latent moss
minor gust
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I actually do really like sprocket tho really fun fight.

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But anything is better after Stix

tacit crystal
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guys i like spear

minor gust
tacit crystal
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play the build bozo

olive nest
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Stix is still 35% PB for me

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Literally worst fight ever bro F

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Think that’s roughly 2 ball sets to go

tacit crystal
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we are at 40% too

olive nest
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I wish we could assign like 8 people to rotate the ball sets or something instead of doing rando

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Some people just simply cannot handle it lmao

icy mulch
minor gust
icy mulch
olive nest
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I goof up with the ball sometimes too by missing a trash pile or a scrapmaster and then having to 180 the ball around or w/e but like some people straight up just drive over bombshells or completely ignore their scrapmasters

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Riprip

tacit crystal
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currently in a top

icy mulch
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I always snag hyenas, then scrapmaster, and then whatever I need to get big for bomb or boss.

tacit crystal
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i think i want more crit

icy mulch
minor gust
olive nest
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I’ve got like 20K Crit in my 5T 1min gear

icy mulch
minor gust
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It never does sadly

olive nest
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You use the stop signs!?

icy mulch
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Lol over the crabs, yeah

olive nest
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Same us too

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Somehow bombshells still get hit btw

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Lmao

tacit crystal
icy mulch
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Those are hilarious. Tokyo drifting around em to snag someone's scrapmaster and into the boss on one pull.

tacit crystal
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we just finished

olive nest
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Tbf I think sometimes they’re just under the boss not dead yet so people clip them but like man there’s a STOP SIGN

olive nest
icy mulch
tacit crystal
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10

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i cba getting 12s

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i need more crit though

latent moss
tacit crystal
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not having demo at 10 for st opener is aids

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latent moss
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u need a crazy number of exhil / blord resets

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or delay wb

tacit crystal
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ya

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in aoe

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i was delyaing spear until 3s of cs

latent moss
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i mean yea

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for demolish

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and lucky exhil procs

latent moss
tacit crystal
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kill collat

minor gust
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What did collateral do to you

tacit crystal
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it killed sos ww

latent moss
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^

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and its cringe

tacit crystal
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every 11s

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CRANK WW

latent moss
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for the same reason

minor gust
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No blizzard killed SOS

latent moss
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tom is cringe

olive night
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collat is fun if you stack it with bonegrinder buff to cleave

tacit crystal
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bring back algathar academy

latent moss
tacit crystal
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god it was so bad

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but it was so perfect

minor gust
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WW is dead as it should be we don't need both WW and cleave unless a cool guy at blizzard wants to bring back SOS that would be cool

latent moss
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let me take rumbling earth

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for ibg cool shockwave

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cluegi

tacit crystal
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wat is rumnbling earth

latent moss
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big shockwave

tacit crystal
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xdd

latent moss
#

capstone on the left

tacit crystal
#

playing shockwave in df

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lollllllllllllllllllllll

latent moss
#

what an amazing class tree

tacit crystal
#

how cna i see previous versions of a talent

#

this only shows current version

smoky kayak
#

look at the changelog lol

#

you're already there

tacit crystal
#

but it doesnt show the tooltips

smoky kayak
karmic ledge
#

Would love some feedback on a log i posted in log review if anyone has time to browse it!

tacit crystal
#

oh

#

reading is hard

smoky kayak
tacit crystal
#

bring it back

image.png
#

saj

minor gust
#

Rip storm of swords

#

The coolest thing to come out of DF

tacit crystal
#

every 14 seconds

#

CRNAKKKKKKKKKKKK

smoky kayak
#

just bloat

minor gust
#

But it made WW feel good to press

latent moss
#

instead they could

#

just make cd like cold blood on rogues

#

macro it to something and ur cleave does a lot more damage

#

a lot more fun than what we have now

tacit crystal
#

me when my brazilian tank moves the mob out of my demolish

sacred zodiac
latent moss
sacred zodiac
#

hello

latent moss
#

why did u call me stupid 😦

sacred zodiac
#

cold blood is so forgettable

tacit crystal
#

spongus

#

watch me play

latent moss
sacred zodiac
#

twitch stream or

latent moss
#

i cba with this cd stacks at the end of the pack

#

cant press cleave

#

its annoying

#

need to wait to open on the next pack to press it

sacred zodiac
#

not the youtube dot com live stream

latent moss
#

based

sacred zodiac
#

can you stop playing the EP m+ variant

#

its so cringe

latent moss
#

he is playing something cooked

#

spear ep longsweep i think

sacred zodiac
#

oh he has spear

#

closing stream

latent moss
#

real asf

latent moss
#

that i respect

#

fuck rend and deep wounds in their current state

tacit crystal
#

look talents

latent moss
#

show them

latent moss
#

did u sim finishing blows vs 1 ct

tacit crystal
#

0 sim

latent moss
#

WAIT BLORD

#

HAHAHHAAHAHAHA

#

WHAT IS THIS COOK

#

drop ep

#

for fatality

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ct for finblows

#

actually im not sure if fatality has more value on st than ep

#

prob not

tacit crystal
#

its a crank

lean wraith
#

how much of a loss in dps is colossus in raid?

warped spade
faint fog
lean geode
fresh spire
naive sage
knotty creek
#

Will we run cyrcys all the time

#

or do we switch to mythic jastor and the ring from cauldron when we get mythic

reef glade
#

psure arms drops circe as soon as possible

knotty creek
#

oh really

reef glade
#

cuz its like fat on mastery which isnt horrible but youre a lot likelier to get a nice crit/haste ring

#

whereas circe stays more relevant for fury for longer

knotty creek
#

just saw on wowhead and icyveins "bis" items they dont drop it

reef glade
#

just sim and if it tells you to replace it ya do it

knotty creek
#

fair

#

lemme sim

reef glade
#

its just a glorified stat ring at this point

knotty creek
#

ah fair

reef glade
#

removing the rng of skipper since it got nerfed

#

and psure thunderlord is cheeks too

#

better to buff your higher ilvl dmg with secondaries than a proc that doesnt do much anymore

shadow ibex
#

Def would in aoe but would feel awful to do

tacit crystal
chrome sky
#

do any of you use a macro to be able to cancel cast demolish. or do you just send it once you're channeling every time?

shadow ibex
warped spade
# tacit crystal what

Firedup was hitting a dummy prepull to stack spheres during race. Blizz changed it so spheres would stack over time while out of combat

quasi torrent
shadow ibex
#

No you stand there and take your hits

#

Builds character

chrome sky
#

oh true. was trying to figure out the best way to reliably cancel i guess that makes sense lol.

chrome sky
gaunt owl
#

always anticipate

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so you dont send it whiffing

shadow ibex
#

The anticipation hero specs

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Anticipate movement

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Or anticipate slayer strikes

#

Now that's what I call gaming

chrome sky
#

i'm just starting to play end game pve stuff so i think i prefer to just send abilities, stand in stuff, and die. no thought required.

gaunt owl
#

perfect the zug zug

#

less brain more smashing

shadow ibex
#

If you were gonna die you were gonna die anyway

chrome sky
#

sorry one more question. i'm watching a warrior streamer in a mythic raid specced into colossus. is he going against the general consensus that slayer is better for single target, or at the higher level can you just pick what you prefer?

lean geode
#

Colossus is good for one armed bandit

#

And maybe Stix I guess

minor gust
#

colossus stix is bait

#

just parse rng

chrome sky
#

ah ok. so somewhat fight dependent

minor gust
#

Colossus is seeing play on OAB because it has a better 2t dmg profile with demolish and the main struggle people have with that fight is adds not boss damage.

#

This will most likely change as the season progresses and Slayer will probably be the goto on that boss for prog than colossus

boreal remnant
chrome sky
#

awesome, thanks guys! it's so hard to take in all this information as a new player lol. feel like i just got the hang of colossus and now i'm like.... huh i probably gotta go look into slayer as well. i'm assuming there's just one or two swaps on CDs with an emphasis on execute procs

chrome sky
minor gust
zenith warren
#

so next week we are supposed to have 4th full spark?

narrow flax
#

how are people even doing 4.5m damage on arms sometimes

#

highest ive had on priory was 3.8

dim basalt
#

Pressing buttons with big pulls

narrow flax
#

with 662

#

like damn

#

quite the gap

dim basalt
#

Recently I finished a priory with almost 5M yep

narrow flax
#

damn

dim basalt
#

Was only a +12 tho

narrow flax
#

had a feeling i was pretty okay-ish at arms

#

but quite a bit off then hehe

merry nexus
#

can anyone tell me why bullet proof vest is down as BIS for arms when its not crit / haste ?

dim basalt
#

Dunno it also depends on the group a lot

narrow flax
#

witht his gear i should probably also get atleast 4m+ on prio

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#

thats fair too

dim basalt
#

Mastery is also a good stat and vers gets more value when you have a lot of the other stats

narrow flax
#

just ignore the mog ive got going there

dim basalt
#

Stats are not black and white which is why we always tell people to sim

#

And thats why bis lists are kinda poop

merry nexus
#

ah, ive tried to use bis lists as a guide rather then set in stone but i just found that odd that just about everything is crit/haste except the chest

#

especially with chest being one of biggest stat slots

dim basalt
#

Dunno Ive never looked at the list but thats probably exactly why that chest is bis

teal fossil
#

isnt chest big primary

#

as oppostied to big secondary

shadow ibex
#

Only rings are big secondary I think

gaunt owl
#

MY STEAMCARD

#

<@&257983573498265600>

latent moss
#

who stole my steam card

gaunt owl
#

i got it first

latent moss
#

valkyr...

#

who was it...

smoky kayak
#

preordering Doom rn

gaunt owl
#

so what did i get

#

if i wasnt first

smoky kayak
#

best I can offer you is a 60s timeout

gaunt owl
#

i want my free steam card

rough sluice
quasi torrent
#

col +5% size gives u top hate size

image.png
tribal ember
#

how many seconds do you give yourself before refreshing jugg?

#

my weak aura glows at 3 sec remaining but idk if that's too much

quasi torrent
#

thats fine

#

but u can just get exe conditional WA

#

if u wanna turn off brain

smoky kayak
quasi torrent
#

yooo

#

+50

swift crown
#

yp

#

I made it in time

#

ty

knotty creek
#

is the cyrcys sim bugged or smth cause its still better to have it for arms than a max hero ring

olive nest
#

No it’s just that good

#

Mine still wins against all 7 of my heroic rings at 665

knotty creek
#

who baited me and said its useless for arms earlier

#

then

olive nest
#

I would assume an unknower but maybe I’m behind on information, I just try to repeat what I believe is the most up to date

knotty creek
#

Yea what you said is my understanding too

#

it was swordish

minor gust
olive nest
#

@reef glade what say you!!!!

knotty creek
minor gust
olive nest
#

Why you tell this man ring bad

#

Smh

knotty creek
#

he also said sim

#

so

reef glade
#

its like 3k mastery ragey

#
  • buncha other shit
#

said its just more likely to get replaced on arms since arms likes crithaste a lot more

#

detonate

knotty creek
#

That

minor gust
#

Arms likes Mastery a lot more than you think

reef glade
#

love my delve crit mastery ring i be usin

#

cuz i have 9% crit on arms set now

dim basalt
#

gamer

latent moss
reef glade
smoky kayak
#

ok but tbf that guy looks like he gets enough treats already

#

he chonky

fresh spire
#

πŸš€

olive nest
smoky kayak
minor gust
#

but how will the people playing colossus on Stix survive

eager sigil
#

I think this patch wclogs should partition even more

shadow ibex
minor gust
shadow ibex
#

Start sprock tonight

fresh spire
#

pretty good figh

minor gust
#

yeah we got it to 35% last night fun fight

smoky kayak
alpine burrow
#

Hey everyone! do you have your fps in wow capped? and if so, could I ask what number you set it to?

my monitor is 240 hz so I'm not sure what I should cap it to because people also said capping fps higher might lead to higher temperatures (new to all this so sorry if I sound like a noob)

smoky kayak
#

just barely

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alpine burrow
smoky kayak
#

I always understood the general "rule" to be capping a few frames below whatever your max refresh rate (either in-game or software settings like nvidia control panel), but I'm no tech guru so not certain if that's still true w/ all of today's tech

alpine burrow
#

Got it, thank you so much!

#

May I ask if you have yours capped? Or just uncapped @smoky kayak

#

:))

smoky kayak
#

I don't even remember

vague sedge
#

I'm picking up arms again after a hiatus and I'm wondering why Thunderclap is listed where it is outside of sweeping strikes. Should 13 (thunder clap) and 15 (overpower) be swapped?

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fast nebula
grand idol
halcyon valve
#

To be fully honest, i dont see the reason to go above 60fps
Looks great to me and the benefits from a higher refresh rate are overshadowed by the increase in power usage and processing power

quasi torrent
#

i believe youre overestimating how much power your pc uses when playing wow

smoky kayak
#

also note that most builds don't play Dreadnaught anymore, as its power was significantly reduced coming out of Dragonflight

#

yeah power draw really shouldn't be a factor for anyone playing on a multi-thousand dollar PC lmao

#

that's like saying you don't want to spend $$$ on the water to wash your high end luxury car

fast nebula
#

i mean gpu will just chase 100% usage with no cap

smoky kayak
#

yes, but that's usually why you cap it near your frame limit

#

if you're capping it significantly below that... why even have the higher refresh rate monitor in the first place?

vague sedge
#

So the break point would be like ~6 targets with rough napkin math for Thunder Clap above Over Power?

fast nebula
#

240 fps will be very near 100% usage

smoky kayak
#

any FPS will be near 100% usage, that's how GPUs work

grand idol
#

I feel like with the low settings you'd have to enable renders most of the capping moot.

fast nebula
#

240 fps is usually just what oleds use atm

smoky kayak
#

GPUs are designed to operate near 100% usage when under load lol

#

but again, power draw shouldn't be a factor - you're not saving any appreciable amount of money, nor are you saving your components for anything, so I really don't see the point

halcyon valve
#

Yeah thats why they got big chunky heatsinks

fast nebula
#

Yes ofc but I dont wana hear my fans running on high ect, unless in raiding just personal pref.

smoky kayak
#

dracthyr_shrug whatever makes you happy

#

only way I can answer that is with another question... why would you?

#

in terms of money, the amount of electricity even high end PCs draw gaming amounts to pennies a day

#

ofc that'll vary depending on where you are/what your electric bills look like/how long you use it, but generally still well below $1 a day w/ heavy usage

fast nebula
grand idol
#

Thats pennies an hour

smoky kayak
#

also assuming you're running under a full load for 12 hours a day

grand idol
#

thats a neat statistic though

#

I like it

smoky kayak
#

even gaming, most people aren't running a full load that long

fast nebula
#

Yea lets be clear idc about power draw just the gpu usage

#

was just curious

smoky kayak
#

but ok, fine, let's generously say that your capping reduces that draw by 20%
congrats, you've saved yourself 35 pence, lmao

halcyon valve
fast nebula
#

im just looking an the nvidia overlay a 80 fps cap lowers usage to like 90w

smoky kayak
#

the card, maybe, not the whole system

fast nebula
#

yea

smoky kayak
#

The heat thing, I guess I can see if you live in a hot area, lack good AC, etc - that's gonna be pretty circumstantial

likewise there's a lot you can do about fans running loud on the build side of things, but I play with headphones 99.9% of the time, so that's not a factor for me personally; even on at max rpm I can't ever hear my fans

#

but more over, it's just weird to me to get an expensive 240hz monitor, then cap it significantly below; feels like you'd have been just as well off with a nicer/lower refresh rate monitor instead

fast nebula
#

my fans are very loud even capped at 35% airflow 😭

#

ofc not when raiding on voice ect

#

but just chilling playing solo games or something

smoky kayak
#

idk that sounds like you've just got some crazy loud fans lol

#

maybe look into some larger (size) fans that spin at lower speeds instead?

torn geode
#

I like warrior :)

fast nebula
#

its the 5 fan with this case + a nhd15 on cpu

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smoky kayak
#

actually the best thing you can do, assuming you have the setup for it, is just put the PC in a different room and route all the connectors keks

fast nebula
#

lots of air flow

smoky kayak
#

that'll solve your noise and heat problem!

fast nebula
#

reminds me of this ^ some guy build his pc facing outside lmao

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smoky kayak
#

that's amazing
probably hell to clean, but hilarious

outer hill
#

why is grim codex dungeon bis triunket?

#

is that aoe dmg that good?

twin hazel
#

Is Colossus better for raiding than Slayer?

minor gust
#

no

quasi torrent
#

something something bandit

robust cypress
#

Is arms not a crit>haste spec? does it like every stat pretty much equally or is my gear whack

smoky kayak
smoky kayak
outer hill
grand idol
#

If for some reason you are doing just dungeons the trinket selection is fairly slim.

sage badge
#

I use priory signet and seaforium.

smoky kayak
#

signet, seaforium, mechano-core, lens, and energy drink are all good

icy mulch
#

Lens is pretty good. Lines up with cool downs, crit or haste. Thou house of cards is still a massive upgrade over em

grand idol
#

Is it though? Maybe I just have way too much mastery but it (HoC) sims equal~ in st and much lower in multi to equal ilvl delve trinkets (specifically lens and drink)

#

I'm having an especially difficult time replacing my champ track lens/drink tbh.

hexed snow
#

Hi boys

#

Question

#

Just me getting sudden Freeze frames?

#

Looking almost like you are about to log out?

grand idol
hexed snow
#

This can happen to me during fights on mythic prog

#

Or even mythic keys

grand idol
#

And it just happened to me in a rando darkflame on the candle boss.

nimble basin
#

I feel like I'm getting half second freezes more atm but eh, not sure why.

inner lava
#

Do best enchants differ for m+ or raid

minor gust
#

you can run radiant instead of abyss if u want

#

nothing thats gonna make or break your dmg tho

inner lava
#

ty

vast helm
quaint otter
jovial niche
#

on aoe pulls should i be trying to spread rend

minor gust
#

yes you should be applying rend to the mobs

jovial niche
#

like more then one thunderclap?

shadow ibex
#

tclap 1 on the start of the pull and then if you have an empty global replace a slam or w/e with tclap

#

should be enough

minor gust
warm ocean
#

Hmmmm, should I cast Sweeping Strike with charge to make sure when SS finished Ravager and WarBreaker still on. so the Cleave damage after Sweeping Strike will be maximum?

tacit crystal
#

if you cast ss early you lose 2 globals of collat

#

unless you want that for an earlier but i think its less damage

#

you might be able to fit it inside of demo window but major doubt

formal verge
#

gamers, if robot says replace isle ring with a hero ring then I would replace, correct?

smoky kayak
#

assuming you input everything correctly, sure

formal verge
#

yeah, i did a replace existing gems/enchants in ST patchwork and 5T patchwork

magic canopy
#

gotta say one thing i dont like abour arms M+

#

is the lack of flex points

#

outside of maybe the movespeed node top left

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#

shits hard set in stone

shadow ibex
#

SW point as well

#

spec tree has problem of flex points and no where good to put them

magic canopy
#

honestly wish crushing force was brought to 1 point

#

as well

sage badge
#

I drop movespeed and rally for short shockwave and stormbolt. Rally is too weak imo, for a 3 min cd.

magic canopy
#

you know

#

you arent wrong

sage badge
#

It saves a group once for like a triple paladin pull in priory. Then everyone fends for themselves unless the healer is really good.

halcyon breach
#

Is there some intervene tech I'm missing or is intervene just a miss pick

#

I don't push keys but intervene dbts is very niche no?

sage badge
#

Oh, I also don't have intervene. I just get leap cdr.

magic canopy
#

i use it every now and then to save my tank

sage badge
#

Yeah, it's strong but niche. Kinda w/e since you'll drop it for a passive utility anyway.

#

So if you can live without leap cdr, movespeed, etc and make use of it then it's pretty good.

#

I personally wish seismic reverb didn't share a choice with concussive blows. Quite a few bosses that you can kick for extra damage.

hexed snow
smoky kayak
vapid hollow
#

Does it actually make sense to wait for WB and Demolish to come off cooldown to get a collateral cleave into that warbreaker window ?

#

OR just send it anyways?

vapid pivot
#

Trying to get back into arms....and cleave...cleave does a fuck ton of damage. o.O

swift crown
#

Whirlwind on the other hand

#

@halcyon breach was it 100k in 4 uses in the first pull of Rookery

halcyon breach
#

I think you should stop making fun of my whirlwind damage

silk spade
atomic mountain
#

10/10

fresh spire
scarlet spade
#

hello guys! I would ask, if have high ilvl ring with bis stats, then need to replace the cyrces-circlet ?(ring)

magic canopy
#

you would need 2 of them for it to be a gain mostly

slow saddle
#

Short answer sim it

#

Longer answer sim it

halcyon valve
#

short: sim it
long: do a simulation of your character via simulation craft, commonly used via raidbots dot com

hollow plover
deep moth
#

feel pretty great, just started playing arms a week ago and already hitting sim targets pretty consistently

#

feels like it just clicks

halcyon valve
#

big number good

icy mulch
#

@magic canopy I didn't get a chance to watch your video before heading to work. Are you trying to fish ppl in? April fools day and all.

rocky ravine
#

i got capital punisher from weekly do you think it is worth to use it instead of crafted cuz I want to use crafted on different slots

warm ocean
#

unless u have a 675 crafted

#

if not just use Capital punisher

#

unless u meet Bis

sharp wyvern
#

I'm disappointed

ebon fern
#

Please blizzard merge blunt and warbreaker into one talent

olive nest
#

You don’t think blizzard wants Warrior to be good do you!?

atomic mountain
#

Be happy that arms isnt shit like last season. Just play the game

olive night
#

yeah im just happy arms is good in M+ and decent in raid 😭

dapper plank
#

Is finishing blows far ahead of bloodborne for m+ or is it kinda same same

#

Seems most build go for finishing blows, but for big AOE the extra bleed damage seems pretty good

latent moss
#

both giga mid

icy mulch
#

@magic canopy I hate avocado toast. Fucking hipster shit.

latent moss
#

ep/2nd bb/fb/bloodsurge

#

u can do whatever u want

dim basalt
#

Just weird because ms was hitting like a wet noodle still

latent moss
strange perch
#

Warriors need to have a rogue-level spec overhaul.

dim basalt
#

Think you might have misunderstood what I said

#

But yeah we really need an overhaul

#

All specs have some really weird stuff going on

static gorge
#

I got a buddy who's an arms warrior who wanted me to ask: What is the best time to use best in slots? Do we just use it whenever after the opening? Do we hold avatar till best in slots is useable again? Other?

thick kelp
#

Use it whenever after opener, preferably with your 2nd CS of the fight

olive nest
#

I had signet and best in slots macroed to CS while I was still using it

thick kelp
#

after that you just press it on CD, CS should line up with it

static gorge
#

Much appreciated 🀘🏾

glossy tusk
slow saddle
#

No reason u couldnt do 3.3 though?

teal fossil
#

Gear holding him back

#

Clearly

#

Also if you wanna cope they had dh buff+bshout

#

You only had bshout

knotty creek
#

He clearly struggled to live too cause healer completely ignored healing him so he had to constantly sit in dstance

daring gazelle
void bay
daring gazelle
#

it's pretty easy spec rn

tacit crystal
#

unholy is the easiest its ever been

void bay
#

easier than fury even?

gray herald
#

sanlayn at least

#

(and in keys)

tacit crystal
#

its just spam 1 button

gray herald
#

and then boom, blood beast pops and ur doing 20m dps

void bay
gray herald
#

vamp strike

void bay
#

im gonna look into it later

#

ok thanks

gray herald
#

(scourge strike turns into vamp strike during cds with sanlayn)

tacit crystal
#

also specs arent hard to learn

#

just hit the dummy and read a guide

void bay
tacit crystal
#

you are as gcd locked or more as unholy compared to outlaw

gray herald
#

ehhh outlaw gcds are like half the duration

#

at least in cds

tacit crystal
#

you just dont have to make decisions in half the time

#

i mean yeah but when you get pi/lust its faster

gray herald
#

idk i dont have this problem or play rogue

#

just feel like outlaw would be almost 0 gcds during adrenaline rush

tacit crystal
#

i dont mind either

#

fire is also similar

#

it just feels horrible to play with lag because i can tell if stuff crits so i waste ib procs

shadow ibex
#

Sprocken as melee is so sleepy this fight is so easy idk what the fuss is FingerGuns

#

All I hear is text to speech say 'same' and press buttons

minor gust
#

good fight

tacit crystal
#

i want stix to explode and i didnt gear my boomie

minor gust
#

not filled with garbage swirlies constantly forcing you to move and run around

shadow ibex
#

We got to Stix then next raid night comp was 3 boom 3 mages

#

Like oh these mother fuckers were ready

#

Me on thane fury just pretending to help

tacit crystal
#

i mean mage does 0 relevant damage unless your tanks move the boss ontop of adds

shadow ibex
#

They did

#

They had a whole route man I was just standing on them whole time p much

#

I just assumed tank is probably immortal to fire circles and they never said anything

tacit crystal
#

dont know

balmy kindle
#

not sure to be happy or sad, any picks

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nova marsh
balmy kindle
#

nope, normal lol.. but heroic on the other 2

#

i have a 675 weapon and 658 chest and waist

nova marsh
#

Broooo

balmy kindle
#

progging copium

slow saddle
#

Weapon is weapo

balmy kindle
#

Gonna use mr robot later to figure it out deadge , might just take weapon maybe, 3 item levels is like 2-3%

magic canopy
minor gust
#

Oh boy I actually have a decision to make this week. Finally a myth track wep or a myth track helm with socket

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charred brook
#

watch our for any weakauras that push updates today...you may find your camera spinning everytime you bladestorm

balmy kindle
rough sluice
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pretty big dps increase for vault this week

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myth tier helm, have 4 piece now

young tree
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Does anyone have a simc string for full stacked juggernaut ?

minor gust
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hmmm I think ima actually not take the wep. Currently using crafted so I dont have sparks for double dusk so wep is actually a dps loss right now

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while maxing out this helm with a socket is a 1.3% increase

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what a world

charred brook
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crafted to m track very low dps increase anyways

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might aswell hold onto crafted until you get a M BiS

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or a free dumpster diver or something

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27k from a neck sheeesh

icy mulch
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Hmm I have choices, just waiting to see what the Robit says.

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balmy kindle
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wew energy drink

dense vector
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This vault is stinky I probably take ring

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minor gust
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So much myth track gear I cant upgrade wtb more crests please

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boreal quartz
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Least funnelled anda char

minor gust
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Just win the loot rolls 4head

boreal quartz
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Yall roll

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Crazy

minor gust
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loot council on who rolls

charred brook
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Yeah buddy im there with u...

boreal quartz
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Why do none of u have proper mythic BIS

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Tmy has 4 already

charred brook
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apologies

minor gust
charred brook
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our resto druid i think might need it first