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tacit crystal
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lol

minor gust
tacit crystal
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i didnt have any aoe

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so i just hit boss

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and swapped to adds dropping all of my frenzy

minor gust
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way to get carried

tacit crystal
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nah

minor gust
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shoulda found a way to wipe after you noticed

tacit crystal
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why when we can oneshot

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like the boss just fell over

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its not even funny

minor gust
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go ST fury on Stix then you guys will kill

tacit crystal
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we did nothing different

minor gust
tacit crystal
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all we did was not have monk

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๐Ÿ™‚

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ama

languid torrent
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in m+ aoe, demolish at 10 stacks only? or like just rip that shit on CD?

smoky kayak
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ideally 10 stacks, though you should try to be cognizant of pull times and how fast targets are dying

languid torrent
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thats how ive been messing with it, but figured id ask.

smoky kayak
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you do tend to get stacks pretty quick in multitarget though, so it's usually not a long delay

maiden notch
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Should send when warbreaker is active

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Like if u have five stacks warbresker and cooldown its better to send that than a 10stack without nothing. Other than that on cooldown and donโ€™t delay unless itโ€™s like very few globals

smoky kayak
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tbf Warbreaker is equivalent to ~3 stacks (around because technically its a separate multiplier which is worth slightly more, but just for the sake of simplicity here)

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but yes you ideally want to land it inside Warbreaker
That said, you don't want to delay a 10 stack Demolish for more than a couple seconds waiting for Warbreaker either, because at that point you're just wasting CDR and total overall uses

maiden notch
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The only thing I am not to sure about it the interaction of sweeping and demolish

smoky kayak
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the first two hits sweep, the AoE slam does not

knotty orchid
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I kinda wish we could see the range of sweeping strikes

astral yarrow
strange perch
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why is arms better in uncapped aoe than fury?

dim basalt
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Because fury is hardcapped

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Arms isnt

astral yarrow
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cleave up good

dim basalt
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Fury can hit I believe 6 targets at most while arms can hit as many as there are

astral yarrow
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still square root scaled, but yes

dusk torrent
halcyon valve
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Dots wicked

dim basalt
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One day TC will apply rend to all targets ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

halcyon valve
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During avatar, with two stacks martial prowess, while warbreaker is active, and tc crits at least 4 targets

dusk torrent
dim basalt
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Then do that

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Robot is always right

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Tho you shouldnt rely on stat weight sims

balmy kindle
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Robot favours crit alot and for good reason, crit = 2 stacks of might

bleak fog
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If you get a mapdrop in a delve can you still use the scrambler 2000 to get another map? Or is it only 1/week?

ocean creek
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You can use the map if it drops within a delve and get the chest at the end of said delve

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Tried it the other day

dire frost
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is there anyway to avoid having moments of weird downtime in raid where im just slamming/rending and getting no overpower reset?

hollow plover
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it do be happenin

dire frost
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i just feel like my damage falls off a cliff when i have those extended periods of no mortal strike

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feels lame

hollow plover
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i mean yea a reset-drought feels like shit

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but such is life

astral yarrow
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perks of deft not being taken deadge

tacit sandal
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What should be our best trinket combo for m+?

hollow plover
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pacemaker + house of cards maybe?

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๐Ÿค”

dire frost
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house of cards + pacemaker or amplifier sims pretty good

dire frost
hollow plover
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i mean

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dont waste MS or OP

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by pressing unnecessary executes

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execute should only be used when conditionals are met

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not because it lights up

dire frost
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i have the exe conditions i've got that down

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so the solution to my problem is just to be luckier

astral yarrow
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dump the log and let us check i guess

balmy kindle
dire frost
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well thats why im here, if it be like that then why my damage so shit

astral yarrow
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Are you tracking opportunist?

balmy kindle
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It's one of the reasons I don't prog with slayer, you need to track opportunist and juggernaut stacks.

At heroic it's not worth cba

thick kelp
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why do u need to track

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Jugg stacks

balmy kindle
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Because if not I just send execute on reflex like an ape sadge

astral yarrow
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@dire frost at a quick glance, you seem to miss MS casts, hitting OP more than you should, missing rend uptime and not sending CS on cooldown

dire frost
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i have the execute conditions weakaura and i track jug. i see the tactitian reset on my bars so i dont really need to track opportunist do i?

astral yarrow
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if you can keep track of it, idc what you do, but seems to me from the mugzee log that you dont

balmy kindle
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Iirc opport is seperate from tact resets

astral yarrow
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Getting the WA is just easier

vast glacier
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Do you guys Slam even If you have an overpower Charge when you are about to Hit the rage Cap ?

astral yarrow
vast glacier
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So overpower Always before spending capped rage

dire frost
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i do tend to hold CS for cooldowns but if thats shit then thats an easy fix

astral yarrow
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Unless you have an opportunist proc, MS is your highest priority (outside exe conditions)

balmy kindle
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Yes just send MS if you get a reset

astral yarrow
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Never hold CS

dire frost
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well if im in the gaol im not gonna CS the goon

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which might be what you're seeing

balmy kindle
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But on slayer u wanna use opport stack if you have it

astral yarrow
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unless theres a specific reason to obviously

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you might as well CS the gooncage

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but again, im looking at a single pull

vast glacier
astral yarrow
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if you have 6t people in there with you, dont cs

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if you are 2 you probably can

dire frost
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we have 4-5 people in the gaols

vast glacier
vast glacier
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For example, i don't cs in the Cage, because it comes Up 2 Seconds to late and i would only gain benefit from IT for 3 Seconds because the goons are dying fast.

astral yarrow
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Riveting insight. Can you elaborate further?

dire frost
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i have monk swappers in my guild those goons disappear

eager ibex
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hey guys, when do i use House of cards trinket? before avatar or after avatar?

dire frost
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its same cd so at the same time no?

eager ibex
vast glacier
dire frost
true ridge
eager ibex
vast glacier
dire frost
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1 minute 30 seconds is 1.5 minutes

eager ibex
true ridge
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At the same time

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The cd is the same

dire frost
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i just macro it to use both at the same time

eager ibex
dire frost
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@astral yarrow are you able to look at my cauldron log? i feel like im close to greatness

thick kelp
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@astral yarrow are you able to look at my skolex log? i feel like im close to greatness

dire frost
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gg can't compete

vast glacier
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Do you guys Play around the 4p when you are at high stacs ?

thick kelp
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if it procs it procs

balmy kindle
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Nope the idea of the 4pcs is no interaction

astral yarrow
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or rather, dm

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have work lunch in a min so cant do it now

astral yarrow
dire frost
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im not raiding again for a week i got time. i'll dm it to ya

thick kelp
astral yarrow
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i can start my raiding career over again in Siege

dire frost
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your dms are closed friend. i cry

astral yarrow
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go agane

tacit crystal
astral yarrow
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did i fucking stutter

thick kelp
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What about mugzee cage mobs?

tacit crystal
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they dont live in heroic

astral yarrow
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yeah its rough with the danish accent in text

tacit crystal
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so i dont press cs on them

thick kelp
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no rend no cs

astral yarrow
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i just need the gingi "i didnt get hit by dat"

thick kelp
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one MS into velfing out back to boss

tacit crystal
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ms and spam execute for jug

astral yarrow
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on hc i just use them for juggernaut upkeep

tacit crystal
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so you stuttered

thick kelp
astral yarrow
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no i send cs on boss before going in cage

tacit crystal
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-1 cs in fight

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unless velf?

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but like xdd

thick kelp
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just be velf lmao noob

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best looking best simming

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uptime king race

astral yarrow
thick kelp
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surely it wont take us full raid time to prog oab from 36% to 0

balmy kindle
tacit crystal
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yeah send it before

balmy kindle
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Holy parse gof

thick kelp
tacit crystal
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op

thick kelp
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timing dont matter

balmy kindle
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Actually based

tacit crystal
tacit crystal
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surely we force our resto to play boomie for that foght

thick kelp
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If he has hands should be ez

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considering the boomie just presses starfall and his job is done

swift crown
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You don't need hands

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To play Boomie on Stix

hexed snow
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Xdd

tacit crystal
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yeah i looked a r1 log

hexed snow
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Guild is wanting me to have a ranged character aswell as warrior

tacit crystal
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they press incarn at 30s 2m 3m or soemthing

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and send 5-7 starfalls

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XD

thick kelp
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payphone spec

hexed snow
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Already had my fair share of huntardness

thick kelp
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  • the chances of them making u play it is near 0
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just dont make a usefull ranger

hexed snow
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:(

thick kelp
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outside of this tier SP is good contender

thick kelp
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to alt for i will never play it in prog

balmy kindle
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But sp is wheelchair spec

tacit crystal
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look at their casts on the timeline

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its legit

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so stupid

hexed snow
naive sage
balmy kindle
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No mobility can't move have to turret cast

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Sure the numbers are good though and you can technically negate most of the cons

naive sage
hexed snow
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Bro meant actual wheelchair

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That's not good

balmy kindle
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Mb tldr priest has legit lesser mobility than pre steed change ret

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I am not sure how you can play sp if u like warrior keks

tacit crystal
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like any other caster

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and move during gcds

boreal quartz
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Try MM hunter

short spear
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Speaking of mobility. I kinda wanna level my evoker. I love using rescue on people

boreal quartz
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Do not evoker

balmy kindle
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Ah MM hunter my old love deadge

tacit crystal
boreal quartz
tacit crystal
gray herald
balmy kindle
tacit crystal
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might also return as schnappi

short spear
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I like dev evoker kinda. And I love messing with people by rescuing them in inconvenient ways

balmy kindle
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Throw fidget spinner for mega dmg

hexed snow
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I actually enjoyed aug Evoker ๐Ÿ˜ถ

short spear
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I donโ€™t like playing healer so I wouldnโ€™t like being a support

hexed snow
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You could legit drink coffee and talk to people while playing it

tacit crystal
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(i started to then they killed it)

hexed snow
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Avg aug evoker gameplay

gray herald
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aug evoker in raid ๐Ÿคฎ

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actual horrendous gameplay

short spear
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My old
Guild leader used aug evoker to hide he was being carried a lot

hexed snow
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๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

gray herald
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it was kinda fun to play in keys ngl but god that shit was so bad in raid

strange perch
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Hi

gray herald
swift crown
strange perch
swift crown
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And then someone fumbled their CDs and your shit was fucked?

balmy kindle
tacit crystal
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i want to play aug again

balmy kindle
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No the spec shd stay purged like now

dull siren
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pigs pinging me at 2am @latent moss @tacit crystal

gray herald
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!remindme ping tmy at 2am

tacit crystal
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!remindme ping tmy at 2am

strange perch
sacred zodiac
tacit crystal
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I want to play augmentation evoker again

swift crown
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Gio...

dull siren
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fk u pauck

strange perch
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Why?

sacred zodiac
strange perch
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You ban me for no reason at all i am deeply hurt.

tacit crystal
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^

swift crown
tacit crystal
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unban pauck

sacred zodiac
tacit crystal
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you are dojng what pauck did

strange perch
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I didnt do anything

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I wont do anything

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Nothing ever happens...

swift crown
tacit crystal
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W

tacit crystal
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I wanted to play augmentation evoker because having perma em uptime and spamming eruption looked fun

strange perch
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Soon bro

sudden fox
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Is the strat on mythic cauldron to avatar 10sec before pull still or na

naive sage
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I am once again asking for your consumables sim script for raidbots

thick kelp
# naive sage I am once again asking for your consumables sim script for raidbots

#Potion
profileset."Tempered_Potion"+="potion=tempered_potion_3"
profileset."Potion_of_Unwavering_Focus"+="potion=potion_of_unwavering_focus_3"

#TWW Food
profileset."Food_Feast_of_the_Midnight_Masquerade"+="food=feast_of_the_midnight_masquerade"
profileset."Food_The_Sushi_Special"+="food=the_sushi_special"
profileset."Food_Everythin_Stew"+="food=everything_stew"
profileset."Food_Chippy_Tea+="food=chippy_tea"
profileset."Food_Deepfin_Patty"+="food=deepfin_patty"
profileset."Food_Fiery_Fish_Sticks"+="food=fiery_fish_sticks"
profileset."Food_Fish_and_Chips"+="food=fish_and_chips"
profileset."Food_Gingerglazed_fillet"+="food=gingerglazed_fillet"
profileset."Food_Marinated_Tenderloins"+="food=marinated_tenderloins"
profileset."Food_Salt_Baked_Seafood"+="food=salt_baked_seafood"
profileset."Food_Salty_Dog"+="food=salty_dog"
profileset."Food_Sweet_and_Spicy_Soup"+="food=sweet_and_spicy_soup"
profileset."Food_Zesty_Nibblers"+="food=zesty_nibblers"

#Weapon Stone/Oil
profileset."Algari_Mana_Oil_x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:algari_mana_oil_3/off_hand:algari_mana_oil_3"
profileset."Ironclaw_Whetstone_x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:ironclaw_whetstone_3/off_hand:ironclaw_whetstone_3"

#Flask
profileset."Alchemical_Chaos"+="flask=flask_of_alchemical_chaos_3"
profileset."Tempered_Aggression (crit) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_aggression_3"
profileset."Tempered_Mastery (mast) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_mastery_3"
profileset."Tempered_Swiftness (haste) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_swiftness_3"
profileset."Tempered_Versatility (vers) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_versatility_3"

strange perch
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#Potion
profileset."Tempered_Potion"+="potion=tempered_potion_3"
profileset."Potion_of_Unwavering_Focus"+="potion=potion_of_unwavering_focus_3"

#TWW Food
profileset."Food_Feast_of_the_Midnight_Masquerade"+="food=feast_of_the_midnight_masquerade"
profileset."Food_The_Sushi_Special"+="food=the_sushi_special"
profileset."Food_Everythin_Stew"+="food=everything_stew"
profileset."Food_Chippy_Tea+="food=chippy_tea"
profileset."Food_Deepfin_Patty"+="food=deepfin_patty"
profileset."Food_Fiery_Fish_Sticks"+="food=fiery_fish_sticks"
profileset."Food_Fish_and_Chips"+="food=fish_and_chips"
profileset."Food_Gingerglazed_fillet"+="food=gingerglazed_fillet"
profileset."Food_Marinated_Tenderloins"+="food=marinated_tenderloins"
profileset."Food_Salt_Baked_Seafood"+="food=salt_baked_seafood"
profileset."Food_Salty_Dog"+="food=salty_dog"
profileset."Food_Sweet_and_Spicy_Soup"+="food=sweet_and_spicy_soup"
profileset."Food_Zesty_Nibblers"+="food=zesty_nibblers"

#Weapon Stone/Oil
profileset."Algari_Mana_Oil_x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:algari_mana_oil_3/off_hand:algari_mana_oil_3"
profileset."Ironclaw_Whetstone_x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:ironclaw_whetstone_3/off_hand:ironclaw_whetstone_3"

#Flask
profileset."Alchemical_Chaos"+="flask=flask_of_alchemical_chaos_3"
profileset."Tempered_Aggression (crit) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_aggression_3"
profileset."Tempered_Mastery (mast) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_mastery_3"
profileset."Tempered_Swiftness (haste) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_swiftness_3"
profileset."Tempered_Versatility (vers) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_versatility_3"

naive sage
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Ty bros

daring heron
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speaking of, i bought a sus energy drink from aldi

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believe it was just ยฃ0.45 keks

swift crown
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Critcake manifesting the Vault map loot irl

fresh spire
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Holy

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Ngl aldi owns

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So much cheaper than tesco/asda

boreal quartz
fresh spire
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Me when I go in tesco cause I want watermelon slices and shits like 3.50 without a card or like 1 69 with a card

daring heron
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i have the 10% discount club card okayge

hollow plover
fresh spire
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๐Ÿ˜ 

daring heron
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lame you can only use the 10% 2 times a month so got to buy big to get value out of it

fresh spire
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Aldi/lidi own

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Two weekly shops

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Ez

gray herald
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tesco clubcard is just insane

boreal quartz
gray herald
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im an aldi enjoyer 100%

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(no lidl in melee range)

paper pine
gray herald
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only the highest quality fox gifs in skyhold

boreal quartz
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Higher res

sacred zodiac
icy mulch
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I do a lot of charity work with a fur farm rescue.

gray herald
icy mulch
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Kinda my retirement goal, to build my own fur farm rescue shelter.

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Dis my little tuxedo man that I sponsor.

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Almost doxxed myself...

gray herald
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dont do that in here

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some evil warriors for sure

icy mulch
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Here we go, last name redacted.

charred shoal
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just got eye of kezan from weekly quest hehe

sacred zodiac
zenith lodge
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I might be missing something but how are they able to spend 405 gilded crests when 360 is cap?

sacred zodiac
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And from her

daring heron
gray herald
icy mulch
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@gray herald @sacred zodiac Will do, send treats from you as well!

fresh spire
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Kipper is cute

gray herald
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lets gooo

fresh spire
zenith lodge
gray herald
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I looted a 668 "boe" belt last night

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๐Ÿ“ˆ

icy mulch
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I have a socket in my heroic belt. Be sad when I can give it up.

fresh spire
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When you loot the mythic one with socket

dim basalt
gray herald
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mythic boes are not tradeable yet

dim basalt
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still?

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damn

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Does it take until hof is full or what

gray herald
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pretty nice crit mastery belt so im not complaining

gray herald
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it was mainly targeted at rwf so probably next week or the week after

fresh spire
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Think its gonna be pretty fast this time around with the speed of nerfs

dim basalt
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Probably

sand summit
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Hey guys. Do we exexute with 20+ rage now or 40+?

loud wadi
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What is the best way to do a simulation for m+? Arms...

fresh spire
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If you can't press ms with 2stack ep or overpower with opportunist up you fully send execute regardless of range

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Rage*

hollow wave
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Don't know about you guys, but to me arms looks easier than fury actually, not a bad thing btw

quaint bloom
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Fury is have bloodthirsty weak aura then itโ€™s 2 buttons, arms is have execute wa then itโ€™s 3 buttons

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Both ez

quasi torrent
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don't forget fury also has the exe one

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๐Ÿ˜Ž

quaint bloom
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Kaching kaching everywhere

flat willow
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the most difficult part of arms is mind controlling your tank to not jump to the moon the second you cast demolish

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you must be inside their head

hollow wave
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Fury has the thing about fast smashing the keyboard while arms just chill mortal strike

quasi torrent
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both have me losing my mind proccing 3rd slayer strike during the global im losing jugg

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delete jugg

flat willow
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but what about funny execute video

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(that only worked on 1 boss)

steel sluice
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idk im tempted to play the non jugg build in keys just because demolish is a thing =p

pearl jasper
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Viscera of hatred is that good now?

flat willow
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slayer not very good in keys

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but if you don't plan to push and just hate demolish why not

latent moss
pearl jasper
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ah okay, thank you

steel sluice
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i mean ive been trying it out 10s so far donst feel bad to be slayer sure you dont get the giga aoe pulls but the ST still feels nice

pearl jasper
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I really like demolish in keys

hollow wave
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But, demolish is extra button vel

flat willow
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demolish is fun, when you don't miss 2 casts from mobs taking 1 step away from you

hollow wave
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And demolish doesn't spinspin

steel sluice
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that what really kills it for me almost makes me wish demo just replaced execute and did something different or something

chilly coyote
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I really like demolish as an ability

broken arrow
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I don't even use execute in my M+ Demolish build okayge

chilly coyote
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it's so friggin nice on a pull being at like 5-6 mil and then you demolish and you literally go double dps on the meters

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same man. execute feels so bad in m+

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for me personally that is

astral yarrow
chilly coyote
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I mean you dont drop that far but yea :d then the boomies start doing their thing

astral yarrow
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but then ravager is off cd again and dopamine spikes

chilly coyote
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if it just was slightly less bugged

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not necessarely bugged but awkward to use

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for me the fix would be simple to just make it so you latch on to whatever you demolish so no matter if they move you still make all the hits

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just like most channels works, it always extends the range a bit

atomic mountain
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anyone else got the problem that you dont fit through the dore before labyrint/3rd boss (patrol bots) in workshop? i play light forged drenai and dont fit through the hole ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

astral yarrow
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range is fairly forgiving, but the most infuriating thing is demolish fizzling out

sturdy hearth
chilly coyote
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but the biggest villain of it fizzling is shit moving away

astral yarrow
thick kelp
sturdy hearth
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well kinda was until we moved out from tom

astral yarrow
chilly coyote
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I havent played warr since early DF. why arent we using ToM btw?

thick kelp
chilly coyote
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until now that is

astral yarrow
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usually around 17

chilly coyote
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when you had IP in dps rotation

astral yarrow
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so about 2 hours

thick kelp
sturdy hearth
chilly coyote
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it's one less thing to track anyways. so if it's not better I dont really mind

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but tom made for some mad execute phases when it was strong

sturdy hearth
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yeah the rage spending was crazy

sturdy hearth
chilly coyote
jagged goblet
potent dew
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Guys,
Is this recommendation below valid for EXECUTE and OVERPOWER?

Execute:
Use โ€Execute with a โ€Sudden Death proc if you have any of:
-3x โ€Marked for Execution.
-โ€Sudden Death at 2 stacks or if the buff is running out.
-โ€Juggernaut is running out then refresh it.

Overpower:
Use โ€Overpower if you have any of:
-2 charges of โ€Overpower available.
-You have a โ€Pay Them Back that is running out and โ€Winning Streak! is active.
โ€-Winning Streak! is at max stacks.

Because I checked some top logs on wowanalyzer and people usually don't follow it and it seems to use the skills at cds.

dapper plank
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Pacemaker pretty solid right? Dont have any other good trinkets from this season

jagged goblet
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Out of those options yea Pacemaker looks like the best

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What trinkets are you using?

chilly coyote
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pacemaker is poggers

dapper plank
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concordance and old season trinket. This was first vault for me. Just returned

gray herald
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that's a great trinket to get out of your first vault

jagged goblet
#

Oh yea take pacemaker for sure grats

dapper plank
#

dope thanks ๐Ÿ˜„

#

in general, what trinkets are we looking for this season?

#

or special on use items

#

etc.

bright ginkgo
#

Loved warrior playstyle back then

quasi torrent
#

Bfa tom was so broken that u legit did 3x dmg during it

#

so u were afk outside of it

#

cool design

#

(no)

jagged goblet
still fox
#

how does demotisch work? can upload the stacks faster?

i think on pull some time is slow and other time going fast ๐Ÿ˜…

quasi torrent
#

what

hollow lagoon
#

do you guys go pure single target slayer every boss?

jagged goblet
#

Every boss for? Raid?

hollow wave
#

I hate to press slam just for the sake of spending rage

cold veldt
#

is sweeping strikes works with ravager mortal strikes?

thick kelp
#

no

zinc wolf
#

We overcap truckload anyway

teal fossil
#

idk if that should be the case for fury

zinc wolf
#

@stuck pebble would love it too i know it

stuck pebble
zinc wolf
#

Is it?

#

Oh yea. But make it baseline imo

ocean creek
#

Anyone thinking about using that cd manager in 11.1.5?

eager sigil
#

why not

misty yew
#

Any WA for 4 set winning streak available to share?

gentle frigate
#

If arms has a fat execute phase why is fury better for raid?

#

Also equal question what makes arms better in AOE???

sacred zodiac
#

arms is better for mugzee and bandit

vapid pine
#

Depends on the fight, the two where execute is kind of important Arms is better

sacred zodiac
#

(execute does not matter on bandit lol)

vapid pine
gray herald
gentle frigate
#

Ah ok is arms not capped?

thick kelp
sacred zodiac
#

ya

gray herald
trim ginkgo
#

@thick kelp why colossus does but execute does not

charred brook
#

Fatty add damage

trim ginkgo
#

oh okay just that

#

i thought there is sth else

thick kelp
sacred zodiac
#

something something 2 target cleave

#

ideally you dont bring a dps warrior at all

thick kelp
#

Played slarms for 40 pulls and I can promise that it is not it for that fight

trim ginkgo
#

tbh mountain thane fury felt better at bandit

#

but i am also playing colossus too

thick kelp
#

if u play fury u are just inting yourself imo

#

frenzy stacks dropping whenever u target swap from boss

#

and u only relevant for the bomb dmg

sacred zodiac
#

idk pray you get benched

trim ginkgo
#

yeah true tho just dont like colossus

sacred zodiac
#

but you also dont want to get benched cause mythic bis B)

sacred zodiac
trim ginkgo
#

i am lucky that our boomie crafted a wep

sacred zodiac
#

only person im competing against is our deva

#

he gets more than my arms but my fury gets more than his deva

thick kelp
#

Just say fury is the play for gally

#

so u must get bis

trim ginkgo
#

it is the play anyway

sacred zodiac
#

gally is a 100+ pull fight for humans ye

thick kelp
#

ok spongie lets not act like we are humans

sacred zodiac
#

i think im slightly more humanoid in nature than rwf contestants

#

for i do not dayraid

rough sluice
strange perch
#

in m+ do you always want to use demolisher while sweeping strikes is up?

potent dew
#

guys, in the raid playing with slayer build. Do u use Execute when Sudden Death proc or wait 3x Market for Execution?

olive nest
#

Get the WA that goes โ€œkachingโ€ when you are supposed to press the execute keybind above 35%

potent dew
dim basalt
#

Well theres also the condition for SD / jugg almost running out

dim basalt
potent dew
untold pewter
#

Hm is heroic Best-in-slots simming lower than mythic track weapon?

tribal echo
untold pewter
#

Interesting, thanks!

#

I can't sim myself atm

jagged goblet
#

Yea heroic BiS sims lower than mythic weps

#

I'm struggling to track exactly when I should use MS during execute phase. Is it only when you have 2 stacks of EP and to apply rend? Or do you also hit it when you have 2 stacks of OP?

shadow ibex
#

2 ep and opportunist isn't up

mighty lance
#

Do we outscale siren Isle ring?

fierce patrol
#

dudes, when do we change the fcking cyrces circlet?

#

im getting bored of it ๐Ÿ˜›

sacred zodiac
#

simulationcraft will tell you

misty sandal
hexed snow
#

I believe by MS

misty sandal
#

Although, we don't really have to keep the ring. People are getting by with other rings in its place just fine.

sacred zodiac
#

you dont really have to equip upgrades either

halcyon breach
#

acquire these then you wont have to use Cyrce's

sacred zodiac
#

what is wrong with you?

halcyon breach
hexed snow
#

Weekly Heroic LoU chest gave me mugzee bulletproof vest

sacred zodiac
halcyon breach
#

I hope you will

sacred zodiac
#

too easy

naive sage
#

I got sparekeys to put up my ass

hexed snow
#

Lock N Stalk gamers ๐Ÿ˜‹

quasi torrent
#

one word

strange perch
#

Guys. I play in german. What you guys mean with SD ? Im New to warrior

quasi torrent
#

sudden death, execute proc

#

think its plรถtzlicher tod in german

strange perch
#

Ah

#

I know now
Ty

quasi torrent
#

but for your own sake id swap to english lmao

#

the german client is so bad man

strange perch
#

But why u need a weakaura for it ?

quasi torrent
strange perch
#

I will try

quasi torrent
#

stay blissfully unaware

#

its for the best

#

there is several conditionals that need to be fullfilled to optimally use SD

#

mainly to game juggernaut

#

its very ๐Ÿ’€

#

u basically wanna delay using them as long as u can without overcapping the "ressources"

dire hinge
strange perch
#

First season With warrior. Its So damn cool

jagged goblet
#

I'm trying to get my Luxthos WA to track EP properly in execute phase

dire hinge
#

right, Martial Prowess is not mentioned on any Mortal Strike conditional, meaning you can safely ignore your OP stacks when it comes to Mortal Strike

#

regardless if it's raid, m+, colossus, slayer, whatever

#

literally never tracked

#

they're just sugar on top when it comes to MS

#

Luxthos's should track it somewhere, but the way their pack is configured might not put it directly on the spell itself

#

yeah, like most of his packs it's tracked externally so you gotta juggle that in your brain. The EP stacks are tracked in the top center, above your major CDs:

#

alternatively you can just put some conditions directly on your MS aura and smoothbrain it

shadow ibex
#

The biggest thing optimization in execute is opportunist iirc and probably the easiest thing to mess up and start to lose the plot on

#

Its a lil unintuitive and I'm p sure there are times when the APL would hit x3 martial prowess cuz it's not mentioned much

#

I think maybe appears one line in execute?

dire hinge
#

it does yes

#

you just dont worry about casting MS in regards to MP stacks currently present

#

tbf you can also just drop opportunist for only a ~1% dps loss ๐Ÿต

#

much easier rotation too

shadow ibex
#

I think opportunist is one of the most thematic things they've made for arms tbh

#

Like 90% of my hate is from the buff lag

dire hinge
#

buff lag is so heinous

shadow ibex
#

Yea it pretty much hamstrings an otherwise cool idea

#

Reacting to an opening quickly is a very opportunistic thing to do so for as simple as it is it fits well with arms warrior

jagged goblet
shadow ibex
#

But the execution is get a weak aura

ripe quartz
molten marsh
shadow ibex
#

Yea there's ways around it but shouldn't have to get a WA to make talent feel better

dire hinge
sacred zodiac
molten marsh
#

ahhh my bad

jagged goblet
shadow ibex
ripe quartz
dire hinge
#

i think it belongs in fury, but find it odd in Arms personally ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

shadow ibex
#

It's taking advantage of an opportunity I think it fits well for a methodical warrior

flat willow
#

I think "slow methodical tactical warrior" was how blizzard described wod arms

#

Also known as the worst version of arms to ever curse this wretched world

jagged goblet
shadow ibex
#

It's probably the closest mechanic we have that sounds like our spec description/fantasy

flat willow
#

Anyway slow Bad

#

Fast good

shadow ibex
#

That and demolish are probably only things I like about hero specs. If arms just took both of those into the base kit I be happy

balmy kindle
#

just a 10 key but bruh sometimes pug groups are cracked

shadow ibex
#

And bolt during bs ofc

quasi torrent
#

but mid gcd slayer strike ๐Ÿ˜ 

shadow ibex
#

You don't like seeing jug at 4 seconds? And start to hesitate

quasi torrent
#

(i have a slayer strike counter and when jugg is about to fall off and im at 2 slayer strikes i will hold the global)

shadow ibex
#

Cuz you don't wanna br on global for proc

#

Good class design

quasi torrent
#

this is some fucking cowfarmers tech

shadow ibex
#

Lmao

#

Such a good feeling

quasi torrent
#

if 62 < rage < 68 and swing is shorter than global

#

glow

shadow ibex
#

Well i can ms but if it procs im on gcd and buff goes bye bye

#

Tactical

#

Get the gunner shades on we tactical gamers

olive nest
shadow ibex
#

I thought I was the only one who did that shit

#

Good to know anda also unhinged

dim basalt
#

I sometimes do that too

#

But only if I know I might be able to hold stacks until exe

olive nest
#

I button mash way to much keks

quasi torrent
#

i made the slayers strike counter

#

scary weakaura

reef birch
#

can someone tell me if this is right? why warbreak after all the big abilities are out?

olive nest
#

Thatโ€™s not a opening sequence actually yeah looks right

dim basalt
#

So you have more globals for the damage buff

slow saddle
quasi torrent
#

play with sub rogues

#

no more parry

#

๐Ÿ˜Ž

slow saddle
#

It was just hc muggy

#

But dang man

dim basalt
quasi torrent
#

)))

slow saddle
#

Hug butt = no parry

quasi torrent
#

this is bugged

#

and applies to everyone

#

not just "your" (read: the rogues) attacks

slow saddle
#

Wait what

dim basalt
#

??????

slow saddle
#

So also 5% more dmg?

flat willow
#

Ayooooo

quasi torrent
#

just the parry

true ridge
dire hinge
# reef birch can someone tell me if this is right? why warbreak after all the big abilities a...

the only big ability listed there is Thunderous Roar really. We don't care much about it's upfront hit, we care more about the DoT it applies (this will automatically scale up when you press Warbreaker).

The reason Warbreaker is so far down the list is because it lets us get the most GCDs within the warbreaker+avatar window that actually matter:

  • We lead with Cleave to start stacks rolling of Colossus Might
  • Rend via Tclap
  • Upfront Thunderous Roar isn't important
  • Upfront Ravager isn't important
  • Avatar/SS are just prep

-> our actual dps window starts with the cleaves we start casting within the Ravager window, so we move Warbreaker to be as close as possible to when the dps starts actually going out

quasi torrent
#

debuff probs just applies the no parry flag

#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

shadow ibex
#

that should really just be a warrior thing

flat willow
#

What about removing parry from the game

shadow ibex
#

master of weapons

#

shouldnt be able to be parried

quasi torrent
shadow ibex
#

does fazed work on dbts parry?

olive nest
#

Things like CS/demolish should just never be able to be parried

quasi torrent
shadow ibex
#

siege breaker applied the SB debuff

olive nest
#

Itโ€™s honestly ridiculous that is still a thing

shadow ibex
#

even if it was parried

#

because blizzard is consistent

#

and in BFA tom still worked 10 sec after the parry

#

however in DF it didnt work at all p sure

dire hinge
#

i love charging into Reverb and getting an immediate parry WA calling me a bozo gladge

olive nest
#

Trex parried me last night iirc

dim basalt
#

I want that WA

dire hinge
#

there ya go

dim basalt
#

ty ty

quasi torrent
#

I just have a WA that flashes perry the platypus when i get parried

dim basalt
#

lmao

dire hinge
#

just an Ashbaby across the whole screen

shadow ibex
#

i dont even track it anymore i just look at details after pull to see how many

#

as long as it isnt CS

olive nest
#

I feel like this WA is going to be extremely triggering

#

โ€œParry.. parry.. parryโ€

halcyon breach
shadow ibex
#

idk why they refuse to budge on it

halcyon breach
olive nest
shadow ibex
#

it adds nothing to the game

#

instead they make demo last hit unparryable

#

stop tip toeing around the fuck shit ffs

pure brook
#

should i prioritize House of Cards or Best-in-Slots while slamming my CDs? cause i saw one sends the other in 15s cds, sims say i should slam HoC first, then BiS when it pops out of cd, but i did read around and someone says it is correct to go HoC first and someone else says "slam BiS first" im a bit confused

quasi torrent
olive nest
#

Trinket first

pure brook
#

also thank you all for the advices yesterday about BiS ๐Ÿ˜„

olive nest
#

Wep with next CS

pure brook
#

so ideally, during my opener in raid, i should use first CD window for the usual rotation with HoC, then saving Weapon for the successive CS window

olive nest
#

Yeah thatโ€™s how I play it

#

Think thatโ€™s how archi suggests it also

#

Iirc

shadow ibex
#

some chad has bis macroed to MS

atomic mountain
#

any uptodate tww S2 spell reflect WA?

olive nest
#

In the dps faq

misty sandal
tough gulch
#

kind of a noob question but if I use 100% parry and intervene on someone it should 100% parry all attacks. But I tried it a few times and it seemed inconsistent. One time I just got blasted into oblivion. Any Tips on how to use it and why it behaves like this? What am I doing or understanding wrong?

olive nest
#

You parry melee attacks only

tough gulch
#

Ahhh so ranged attacks cant be parried wow thanks it just made click

boreal remnant
#

What's the approximate cd on bs with am

minor gust
#

45

atomic mountain
tough gulch
dire hinge
#

it was added very briefly and then reverted sad_cat

#

there was a short time in one of the expansion betas where we could DbtS+Intervene to mitigate ranged phys attacks

short spear
#

hate that they made safeguard a pvp talent only

#

remember in shadowlands being able to use a covenant talent slot to let intervene give dr to people you intervene

shadow ibex
#

we used to have vigilance

#

casual 20% external DR as a melee dps

#

it was a different game then really. if we had that now warrior would be insane

#

just hand out a pain sup to anyone needing to run out and drop off a mech

gaunt owl
#

basically no downside to it and saving a mate on such a short CD

#

it was insane

shadow ibex
#

yea

#

the game didnt really have fights that required it

#

we didnt know how good we had it

dense vector
#

is mechagon the only dungeon with no weapon? thats crazy

shadow ibex
#

it has bracers

tribal sedge
#

Is radiant power a good overall enchant for weapon this tier if you are doing m plus and raiding?

olive nest
#

Ye itโ€™s good if you play both

reef birch
tacit crystal
#

bc the initial damage of raor is so little that you would rather have 1 more global in avatar

minor gust
#

Rawr

tacit crystal
mild hound
#

Lucked out and got that funhouse lense w my map clueless

minor gust
#

0 because we killed him

tacit crystal
#

we got to 50% but i feel like % doesnt even matter

#

its just having people roll into bombs and hit scrap masters

minor gust
#

Not really because that entire fight is just doing balls right

#

Dmg doesn't matter

tacit crystal
#

yeah

#

we also didnt have a boomkin until last 3 pulls

minor gust
#

Yeah boomy carries the shitty range players who don't swap to bombshells

tacit crystal
#

also just carries adds

minor gust
#

Usually there's enough melee to blender them as adds get to the boss

tacit crystal
#

i mean yeah

#

but no ranged will swap to adds

#

besides maybe aff

minor gust
#

animals

olive nest
#

Speaking of ranged not swapping to ranged targets

#

During rik โ€œprogโ€ the ranged pyro kept consistently blowing up and they were bitching about the lack of arms add damage on the same ranged pyros

#

Lmao

#

Like bruh how about 9 RANGED do the RANGED pyro

onyx jetty
#

What crafted weapon is recommended? and what embelishment?

olive nest
#

All 2hs are the same and it depends if you want to get ascension with armor band for more raid focused damage or a combination of Dawn/dusk on other gear slots for M+ damage

onyx jetty
#

Pretty much only do m+

olive nest
#

Iโ€™d do 2x dawnthread then

#

Gear around having the crit embellish instead of the vers one

onyx jetty
#

Alright thanks!

olive nest
#

Gl!

mild hound
#

Yea, Iโ€™ve been praying for a m wep in vault to no avail

olive nest
#

You could honestly keep holding out odds are pretty high to get a 2h vault weapon

#

Unless you need damage for raid

#

And come to think of it

#

If craft weapon you save 15 crests fully upgrading a myth vault weapon

#

You just lose the sparks

#

Tough decision but I think I would have crafted if my first two vaults didnโ€™t have a weapon

smoky kayak
slow saddle
mild hound
#

Yea, I crafted prior to the second spark giveaway, holding my spark now until I get another as a fail safe

#

Thereโ€™s an achievement now for clearing all 12s eh?
4 more to go if so

shadow ibex
#

there's a mount at 3k iirc

dark wagon
#

If i wear peacemaker thats happen

pearl jasper
#

do we swap circlet out for mythic rings still? or has that changed?

smoky kayak
magic canopy
#

p ovb its gonna do better

mild hound
#

Didnโ€™t outsim them in ST or fury anything though

proven gorge
#

Hey guys whats the biggest Mortal Strike damage you usually do in High Keys, witouth externals, only personal proccs, trinks etc.

pearl jasper
rapid zenith
#

Why is bulletproof BiS over slashproof? feels like the slash stats are better (according to the stat priority)

#

is it just BiS at a certain stat threshold?

sacred zodiac
#

idk ye probably but you also are nowhere near the point you should care about a bis list

swift crown
rapid zenith
#

im just curious because if BiS myth track is different than BiS heroic track, that's important

#

I'm 665

swift crown
#

A BiS list is only valid in its entirety

rapid zenith
#

ahh

#

that's fair

swift crown
#

You need EVERY item at max ilvl

#

for it to actually apply

rapid zenith
#

okay so its probably just DR on stats or something

sacred zodiac
#

idk it maybe comes down to race aswell i never checked

#

you need to stop caring about bis lists king

#

equip what you have access to and sim to tell your council what you need

rapid zenith
#

I agree

fathom shoal
#

Execute bis lists next season. Lol to many ppl don't understand

#

Eventually they'll stop asking for it

#

And just sim like your supposed to

olive nest
#

WhY wOuLd I sIm WhEn ThIs LiSt SaYs WhAt Is ThE bEsT

fathom shoal
#

ROFL

gaunt owl
#

i need my bis list

#

i crave it

thick hamlet
#

bros mister lock is big on ST

#

but how is it on aoe/m+?

dim basalt
#

sim it okayge

rapid zenith
olive nest
#

Bro my 3/4 minute sim wants me to use ratfang LOL

#

Damn ratfang in heroic sales

fathom shoal
#

It's a guide more or less. Simming is always the best way to test gear combos

sacred zodiac
#

ratfangle

olive nest
#

I gotta quick sim it again later and see if it waits for 5 stacks or if I can just macro it to Ava and forget it

rapid zenith
#

even then its pretty unrealistic to aim for, a lot of it is vault drops only

#

you could go the entire season without seeing a M+ item from myth track

fresh spire
olive nest
#

Amen

fresh spire
#

658 ilv pov in a 665 kinda world

sacred zodiac
olive nest
sacred zodiac
#

holy

#

drop the factory buddy

fresh spire
#

its fucked up

#

currently rebuilding gleba for science juicing

sacred zodiac
#

drop it

#

did you get the w

sterile turret
#

Hello guys what should i craft when i have back and wrists ?

fresh spire
sacred zodiac
#

if ye give me galaxy of fame

fresh spire
#

its still a fuckin mess

#

starting to get robos more involved

#

me and mate been playing, we speed ran the planets basically now just sorta researching and getting ready to go to the end space thing

vernal dome
#

haven't simmed yet, but wondering if hc Best-In-Slots is performing better than a myth weapon. Does anyone know?

fresh spire
#

worse than a myth track weapon

olive nest
fresh spire
#

factorio

vernal dome
#

thanks

sacred zodiac
fresh spire
#

cant fit it all in screen, not been back to earth yet

sacred zodiac
#

where are the trains

fresh spire
#

fuck trains

#

i like belts ๐Ÿ˜„

sacred zodiac
#

explode

fresh spire
#

we need to do trains at fulgora though

#

our scrap ran out

#

so shits just turned off

fresh spire
#

me omw to get 500 biter eggs and send them in to fight the big destroyer

#

surely 500 bugs vs big snake will be amusing

sacred zodiac
#

cluegi

fresh spire
#

i need them to fight

#

if they just chill with eachother i would be sad

halcyon valve
#

tbh they should buff wrecking throw

#

not by some crazy amount but it does less damage than an unbuffed colossus execute

eternal cloud
#

arms play crit/mastery for keys?

tacit crystal
#

it will tend torwards that

#

but sim yourself

inland drift
#

i got enough crests to craft myself another 675 piece, tho most of what i wanjna craft are tier pieces, i can't catalyze those, wso how about a ring? is it worth it

azure sable
#

mister lock-N-stalk trinket is crazy wtf

zenith warren
#

what spec you guys suggest for stix?

latent moss
#

fury

olive nest
#

Fury just does that fight well itโ€™s hard not to honestly

latent pasture
#

Hi all, just wondering what peoples stat prio is? Parsing worse in raid on HC but people seem to be running 15000+ haste, is that normal? Im on around 12k at the moment.

latent moss
#

sim

latent pasture
#

I've top geared sim, but cant see where id see stats?

#

dunno if im missing something

rose matrix
#

Is it worth holding ravager for warbreak and for how long if so?

latent moss
royal escarp
latent pasture
#

Im on around 23% haste, was previously 17% so hopefully see a increase

latent moss
#

yeah slayer loves haste

royal escarp
#

any one with cap haste ><

latent moss
latent pasture
#

It didn't feel awful to play, but mastery is currently 40% which I think is relativley high. Obviously not optimized gear

latent moss
#

but colossus generally prefers crit/mastery over haste

#

these are my stats at 663.56 with house of cards / mechanocore

latent pasture
#

there mine 658

latent moss
#

but it depends on ur gear and should always sim

royal escarp
#

for Raid ST i use patchwerk 1 boss 5 min
for M+ colossus i use patchwerk 5 boss 5 min
am i wrong ?

latent pasture
#

Yeah, totally get it mate - Thank you

latent moss
#

but generally it wants the same stats

latent moss
royal escarp
#

okay okay

#

i see critcake doing it so i do it ๐Ÿ˜„

dim basalt
#

5T is fine

royal escarp
#

5 min or 3 min

dim basalt
#

5 min for better accuracy

royal escarp
#

oaky

livid thunder
#

should we be crafting cloaks or weapons with sparks

#

this is my first craft

charred shoal
#

my understanding is

#

if you have access to myth weapons

#

use those

#

otherwise crafted weapon is best

livid thunder
#

no access to myth weapons for me

#

so crafted weapon it is then

dire hinge
#

you should have enough for both at this point (we have 3 sparks available currently)

twin hazel
#

can you repeat Dungeons for Emissary of War?

dire hinge
#

yuppers

#

can run the same M+0 multiple times

twin hazel
#

great thx!

rose matrix
#

How long is it worth holding Ravager for Warbreaker?

minor gust
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always hold rav for next warbreaker

scarlet field
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How do I crank as arms and make my Guildies cry

tacit crystal
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look at wowhead rotation guide

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hit the dummies

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it is how you can go from 0 to doing damage on any spec in 30-60 minutes

austere hedge
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step 1. copy the rotation on wowhead
step 2. wonder why overpower > execute but if you have sweeping strikes, execute > overpower
step 3. pump without ever knowing

gentle frigate
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I think I am confused on the rotation in mythic plus

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Am I trying to fit Demolish in the warbreak window?

latent moss
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always

gentle frigate
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Damn I feel like its tight with 10 secs and all the GCDs

coarse hedge
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does anybody know if a crafted 675 weapons is better than a 665 best in slots or the other way around

latent moss
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10 ilvls on weapon is insane

coarse hedge
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yeah thats what i thought and it would let me use house of cards

fathom shoal
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you still use house, send it with avatar

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use the weapon after

spring rune
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For M Carnage is there a consensus on popping all CDs on pull vs popping on Clash? HIgh lvl parses seem split but not sure what to practice

silk spade
latent moss
pallid bobcat
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Does someone have an apl to put the kezan full stack instantly in a sim perhaps

tender jolt
# scarlet field How do I crank as arms and make my Guildies cry

Best way to make them cry, play around the sweeping strikes talent collateral damage, you can do some nutty damage with it. Basically at end of the pack try time it right, when u use SS, for every single target ability that hits an additional target you get a stack of collateral damage, you can get 10 stacks easy but if u have enough haste/gcd u can get up to like 14-15.

Each stack gives your next cleave 25% more damage, so 10 stacks ur next cleave is 250% more damage

Make sure u have ravager up for the pack u wanna do big damage cause ravager makes cleave damage increase by 50%, you also warbreak for 30% more as well as 10 stack of demolish for another 10% (I think) and avatar another 20% you hit like a truck. I've gotten do 18m dps on cinderbrew and I know critcake has a video on it where he got like 22m dps

manic river
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Hello fellow arms. I'm returning after maining a healer this season

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How is arms doing overall right now'

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?

latent moss
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get 20 stacks

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wait next pack and pop with ravager

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its cinema

balmy kindle
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20 stack crit with all cooldowns okayge

latent moss
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prestack with blademasters

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with lust

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and pi

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swap talents start key

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terse lintel
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so everyones going blademasters now?

manic river
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Question: why do we keep poping SS before Ravager precisely since the MSs from it cannot interact?

latent moss
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during mbg

manic river
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what was mbg? sorry

latent moss
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merciless bonegrinder

manic river
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aah

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K thanks

latent moss
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cleave does 50% more damage during ravager

manic river
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got it

quasi torrent
latent moss
manic river
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saldy ww is like a vestigial organ right no for arms

latent moss
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eww fury ability

latent moss
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fuck ww

manic river
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now*+

latent moss
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why was ww on arms ever a thing

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when cleave is a thing

manic river
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Yes i'm happier that cleave has a function now unlike in half of Dragonflight

latent moss
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yeah now that it actually interacts with the kit

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and actually hits for something

manic river
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how is arms considered right now among meeles?

quasi torrent
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amogus

lean geode
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It's strong

native merlin
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Ss + bladmaster it be add ?

latent moss
manic river
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I just haven't seen other arms players in my M+ right now so my only experience is me with my friends and right now my Beastmaster buddy kicks my ass still hahah

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Perhaps I'm not that good at sustaining damage still

lean geode
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Check out critcake's youtube channel

lean geode
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He has some good arms videos

latent moss
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biz is gapping others as well

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gapped

manic river
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oh Crit is pumping some mastery... interesting

glossy tusk
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Try gapping unholy

glossy tusk
latent moss
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@warped plume :chatting:

manic river
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ah weird

glossy tusk
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U can play arms with fury stuff

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But u cant play fury with arms stuff

tender jolt
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Mastery is better for mythic+ right?

warped plume
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im like a mid uhdk comparing me to you is not fair chatting

latent moss
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chatting

latent moss
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with stats tbh

misty sandal
fresh spire
warped plume
fresh spire
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No u

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manic river
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Do you still pop some MSs even when out of SS time?