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i didnt have any aoe
so i just hit boss
and swapped to adds dropping all of my frenzy
way to get carried
nah
shoulda found a way to wipe after you noticed
go ST fury on Stix then you guys will kill
we did nothing different

in m+ aoe, demolish at 10 stacks only? or like just rip that shit on CD?
ideally 10 stacks, though you should try to be cognizant of pull times and how fast targets are dying
thats how ive been messing with it, but figured id ask.
you do tend to get stacks pretty quick in multitarget though, so it's usually not a long delay
Should send when warbreaker is active
Like if u have five stacks warbresker and cooldown its better to send that than a 10stack without nothing. Other than that on cooldown and donโt delay unless itโs like very few globals
tbf Warbreaker is equivalent to ~3 stacks (around because technically its a separate multiplier which is worth slightly more, but just for the sake of simplicity here)
but yes you ideally want to land it inside Warbreaker
That said, you don't want to delay a 10 stack Demolish for more than a couple seconds waiting for Warbreaker either, because at that point you're just wasting CDR and total overall uses
The only thing I am not to sure about it the interaction of sweeping and demolish
the first two hits sweep, the AoE slam does not
I kinda wish we could see the range of sweeping strikes
its just melee range in 360 degree circle around you im pretty sure. It will always hit the closest secondary target to you
why is arms better in uncapped aoe than fury?
cleave up good
Fury can hit I believe 6 targets at most while arms can hit as many as there are
still square root scaled, but yes
should i drop some crit for more versatility? asking for a friend ... ๐
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/blackrock/Kiezschelle
Dots 
One day TC will apply rend to all targets ๐ฆ
Sim it /shrug
During avatar, with two stacks martial prowess, while warbreaker is active, and tc crits at least 4 targets
sim says drop haste add crit... 
Robot favours crit alot and for good reason, crit = 2 stacks of might
If you get a mapdrop in a delve can you still use the scrambler 2000 to get another map? Or is it only 1/week?
1/week
You can use the map if it drops within a delve and get the chest at the end of said delve
Tried it the other day
is there anyway to avoid having moments of weird downtime in raid where im just slamming/rending and getting no overpower reset?
slam is core to arms
it do be happenin
i just feel like my damage falls off a cliff when i have those extended periods of no mortal strike
feels lame
perks of deft not being taken 
What should be our best trinket combo for m+?
house of cards + pacemaker or amplifier sims pretty good
so basically theres no rotational adjustments to make it happen less?
i mean
dont waste MS or OP
by pressing unnecessary executes
execute should only be used when conditionals are met
not because it lights up
i have the exe conditions i've got that down
so the solution to my problem is just to be luckier
dump the log and let us check i guess
Slayer do be like that, just hit slam and hope for OP reset
well thats why im here, if it be like that then why my damage so shit
Are you tracking opportunist?
It's one of the reasons I don't prog with slayer, you need to track opportunist and juggernaut stacks.
At heroic it's not worth cba
Because if not I just send execute on reflex like an ape 
@dire frost at a quick glance, you seem to miss MS casts, hitting OP more than you should, missing rend uptime and not sending CS on cooldown
i have the execute conditions weakaura and i track jug. i see the tactitian reset on my bars so i dont really need to track opportunist do i?
if you can keep track of it, idc what you do, but seems to me from the mugzee log that you dont
Iirc opport is seperate from tact resets
Getting the WA is just easier
Do you guys Slam even If you have an overpower Charge when you are about to Hit the rage Cap ?
you just follow priority ๐
So overpower Always before spending capped rage
are you able to elaborate more? like if mortal strike resets mortal strike i should just send it instead of overpowering?
i do tend to hold CS for cooldowns but if thats shit then thats an easy fix
Unless you have an opportunist proc, MS is your highest priority (outside exe conditions)
Yes just send MS if you get a reset
Never hold CS
But on slayer u wanna use opport stack if you have it
unless theres a specific reason to obviously
you might as well CS the gooncage
but again, im looking at a single pull
He is taking about mag
Zee He is in the prison with the element als when cs is ready.
thanks ๐
we have 4-5 people in the gaols
๐ He Said it himself before ๐

For example, i don't cs in the Cage, because it comes Up 2 Seconds to late and i would only gain benefit from IT for 3 Seconds because the goons are dying fast.
Riveting insight. Can you elaborate further?
i have monk swappers in my guild those goons disappear
hey guys, when do i use House of cards trinket? before avatar or after avatar?
its same cd so at the same time no?
1.5 and 1.3
And my Personal Goal is to kill the Boss the fastest way and wasting the cs debuff on the goons isn't bringing the Boss faster to it's end
both 1.5 on my end
0.5 of a minute is 30 seconds my guy
There is No ability in wow with 80 Seconds of cd that i know of
1 minute 30 seconds is 1.5 minutes
don't care rly, just looking to see if i use cards first before avatar or after avatar
i just macro it to use both at the same time
Alright
@astral yarrow are you able to look at my cauldron log? i feel like im close to greatness
@astral yarrow are you able to look at my skolex log? i feel like im close to greatness
gg can't compete
Do you guys Play around the 4p when you are at high stacs ?
if it procs it procs
Nope the idea of the 4pcs is no interaction
link
or rather, dm
have work lunch in a min so cant do it now
rather look at your firelands ragnaros log
im not raiding again for a week i got time. i'll dm it to ya
My classic warrior is on hold till MoP
same bro
i can start my raiding career over again in Siege
your dms are closed friend. i cry
go agane
but what about mugzee cages when the mob lasts 4 globals
did i fucking stutter
I couldnt understand from your Danish accent
What about mugzee cage mobs?
they dont live in heroic
yeah its rough with the danish accent in text
so i dont press cs on them
no rend no cs
i just need the gingi "i didnt get hit by dat"
one MS into velfing out back to boss
ms and spam execute for jug
on hc i just use them for juggernaut upkeep
so you stuttered
on hc i dont care
XDDD
-1 cs in fight
unless velf?
but like xdd
people who never see that boss on mythic seemingly do 
not there yet

I am hopefully seeing it today on mystic
surely it wont take us full raid time to prog oab from 36% to 0
cope
Wait what you can void tp out of cage ๐
yeah send it before
Holy parse gof
can send it during too
op
timing dont matter
Actually based
we made it to 50% on stix without a boomie
Nice
surely we force our resto to play boomie for that foght
If he has hands should be ez
considering the boomie just presses starfall and his job is done
Xdd
yeah i looked a r1 log
Guild is wanting me to have a ranged character aswell as warrior
bm hunter
payphone spec
Already had my fair share of huntardness
:(
outside of this tier SP is good contender
to alt for i will never play it in prog
But sp is wheelchair spec
Perfect
Elaborate on that
No mobility can't move have to turret cast
Sure the numbers are good though and you can technically negate most of the cons
Ah ok, I thought gameplay wise
Itโs one of the only specs I never even tried
Mb tldr priest has legit lesser mobility than pre steed change ret
I am not sure how you can play sp if u like warrior 
Try MM hunter
Speaking of mobility. I kinda wanna level my evoker. I love using rescue on people
Do not evoker
Ah MM hunter my old love 
i played evoker
The mega explosive shot stuff is mad fun
trekgob might return

Went to alt DH for guild 
might also return as schnappi
I like dev evoker kinda. And I love messing with people by rescuing them in inconvenient ways
Throw fidget spinner for mega dmg
i didnt play that

I actually enjoyed aug Evoker ๐ถ
I donโt like playing healer so I wouldnโt like being a support
You could legit drink coffee and talk to people while playing it
(i started to then they killed it)
My old
Guild leader used aug evoker to hide he was being carried a lot
Peak wow class. You are legit useless no matter what you do or how perfect you play
๐๐
it was kinda fun to play in keys ngl but god that shit was so bad in raid
Hi
Hi
You didn't like spreadsheeting your shit before raid for competitive performance?
Hi
And then someone fumbled their CDs and your shit was fucked?

I mean VIP access to high keys was a cool privilege tho
i want to play aug again
No the spec shd stay purged like now
pigs pinging me at 2am @latent moss @tacit crystal
hi tmy
!remindme ping tmy at 2am
!remindme ping tmy at 2am
Do not ever let these words come out of your mouth again.
I want to play augmentation evoker again
Gio...
Hey ๐
fk u pauck
Why?
Gio is
You ban me for no reason at all i am deeply hurt.
^
Gio is Galastronk
unban pauck
True
why are you slurring me
you are dojng what pauck did
I'm sorry Gio but on the plus side Gio is also Archimtiros who is also Revvez
W
aggrandize
I wanted to play augmentation evoker because having perma em uptime and spamming eruption looked fun
Soon bro
Is the strat on mythic cauldron to avatar 10sec before pull still or na
I am once again asking for your consumables sim script for raidbots
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Ty bros
Yooo I wish I had a butler to bring me melon
but it would be a can of monster
Critcake manifesting the Vault map loot irl
Tesco no Club card mega horror
Me when I go in tesco cause I want watermelon slices and shits like 3.50 without a card or like 1 69 with a card
i have the 10% discount club card 
german supermarket gigachad
๐
lame you can only use the 10% 2 times a month so got to buy big to get value out of it
tesco clubcard is just insane
German Discounter W
Why is that so high res and refresh rate
only the highest quality fox gifs in skyhold
Higher res
Evil creature
I do a lot of charity work with a fur farm rescue.
Kinda my retirement goal, to build my own fur farm rescue shelter.
Dis my little tuxedo man that I sponsor.
Almost doxxed myself...
Here we go, last name redacted.
just got eye of kezan from weekly quest hehe
Say hello to Kipper for me please
I might be missing something but how are they able to spend 405 gilded crests when 360 is cap?
And from 
wdym, they probably got discounts from looting higher ilvl base items
Say hello to Kipper for me too please
@gray herald @sacred zodiac Will do, send treats from you as well!
Kipper is cute
lets gooo

okey that makes sense if they got like 2/3 items from mythic raiding
I have a socket in my heroic belt. Be sad when I can give it up.
How much is it worth
pretty nice crit mastery belt so im not complaining
idk honestly, something like that
it was mainly targeted at rwf so probably next week or the week after
Think its gonna be pretty fast this time around with the speed of nerfs
Probably
Hey guys. Do we exexute with 20+ rage now or 40+?
What is the best way to do a simulation for m+? Arms...
If you can't press ms with 2stack ep or overpower with opportunist up you fully send execute regardless of range
Rage*
Don't know about you guys, but to me arms looks easier than fury actually, not a bad thing btw
Fury is have bloodthirsty weak aura then itโs 2 buttons, arms is have execute wa then itโs 3 buttons
Both ez
Kaching kaching everywhere
the most difficult part of arms is mind controlling your tank to not jump to the moon the second you cast demolish
you must be inside their head
Fury has the thing about fast smashing the keyboard while arms just chill mortal strike
both have me losing my mind proccing 3rd slayer strike during the global im losing jugg
delete jugg
idk im tempted to play the non jugg build in keys just because demolish is a thing =p
Viscera of hatred is that good now?
slayer not very good in keys
but if you don't plan to push and just hate demolish why not
on pure st ye
ah okay, thank you
i mean ive been trying it out 10s so far donst feel bad to be slayer sure you dont get the giga aoe pulls but the ST still feels nice
I really like demolish in keys
But, demolish is extra button 
demolish is fun, when you don't miss 2 casts from mobs taking 1 step away from you
And demolish doesn't spinspin
that what really kills it for me almost makes me wish demo just replaced execute and did something different or something
I really like demolish as an ability
I don't even use execute in my M+ Demolish build 
it's so friggin nice on a pull being at like 5-6 mil and then you demolish and you literally go double dps on the meters
same man. execute feels so bad in m+
for me personally that is
and then you realize the pull lasts more than 10 globals as you make your way down the meter 
I mean you dont drop that far but yea :d then the boomies start doing their thing
but then ravager is off cd again and dopamine spikes
if it just was slightly less bugged
not necessarely bugged but awkward to use
for me the fix would be simple to just make it so you latch on to whatever you demolish so no matter if they move you still make all the hits
just like most channels works, it always extends the range a bit
anyone else got the problem that you dont fit through the dore before labyrint/3rd boss (patrol bots) in workshop? i play light forged drenai and dont fit through the hole ๐ฆ
range is fairly forgiving, but the most infuriating thing is demolish fizzling out
would like talent that would make execute hit in aoe but deal less dmg in ST, would also increase cleave dmg
but the biggest villain of it fizzling is shit moving away
moving into just being a copy paste fury warrior at that point
Fuck juggernaut
You wouldnt happen to have focus target castbar wa onhand
well kinda was until we moved out from tom
if i was at home pc i would have 
I havent played warr since early DF. why arent we using ToM btw?
What time would you be home for pc
until now that is
usually around 17
when you had IP in dps rotation
so about 2 hours
hmm
I'd say the haste from in for the kill is very valuable in early game, I think they buffed it while nerfing ToM but I'm not sure, need to find TWW prepatch changes for that
it's one less thing to track anyways. so if it's not better I dont really mind
but tom made for some mad execute phases when it was strong
yeah the rage spending was crazy
oh yeah we were able to dump rage with Ignore pain back then but they nerfed it so ToM lost a lot of power
Sims worse

Hit 3k bois lfg https://raider.io/characters/us/dalaran/Powerlyn
Guys,
Is this recommendation below valid for EXECUTE and OVERPOWER?
Execute:
Use โExecute with a โSudden Death proc if you have any of:
-3x โMarked for Execution.
-โSudden Death at 2 stacks or if the buff is running out.
-โJuggernaut is running out then refresh it.
Overpower:
Use โOverpower if you have any of:
-2 charges of โOverpower available.
-You have a โPay Them Back that is running out and โWinning Streak! is active.
โ-Winning Streak! is at max stacks.
Because I checked some top logs on wowanalyzer and people usually don't follow it and it seems to use the skills at cds.
Pacemaker pretty solid right? Dont have any other good trinkets from this season
Out of those options yea Pacemaker looks like the best
What trinkets are you using?
pacemaker is poggers
concordance and old season trinket. This was first vault for me. Just returned
that's a great trinket to get out of your first vault
Oh yea take pacemaker for sure grats
dope thanks ๐
in general, what trinkets are we looking for this season?
or special on use items
etc.
BFA ToM + MoLD went HARD
Loved warrior playstyle back then
Bfa tom was so broken that u legit did 3x dmg during it
so u were afk outside of it
cool design
(no)
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/overview-pve-dps for all your BiS
how does demotisch work? can upload the stacks faster?
i think on pull some time is slow and other time going fast ๐
what
do you guys go pure single target slayer every boss?
Every boss for? Raid?
Dump rage with ignore pain was the best
I hate to press slam just for the sake of spending rage
is sweeping strikes works with ravager mortal strikes?
no
Honestly both specs should get off gcd ignore pain
We overcap truckload anyway
idk if that should be the case for fury
@stuck pebble would love it too i know it
It already is no?
Anyone thinking about using that cd manager in 11.1.5?
why not
Any WA for 4 set winning streak available to share?
If arms has a fat execute phase why is fury better for raid?
Also equal question what makes arms better in AOE???
arms is better for mugzee and bandit
Depends on the fight, the two where execute is kind of important Arms is better
(execute does not matter on bandit lol)
Not yet, but I could see blizzard nuking add hp for fun for lower guilds
the majority of furyโs multitarget damage is hard capped to 5 targets with improved whirlwind
Ah ok is arms not capped?
Colossus does
ya
idk what target caps the soft caps have but cleave isnโt hard capped
@thick kelp why colossus does but execute does not
Fatty add damage
Medicore add dmg*
Played slarms for 40 pulls and I can promise that it is not it for that fight
if u play fury u are just inting yourself imo
frenzy stacks dropping whenever u target swap from boss
and u only relevant for the bomb dmg
idk pray you get benched
yeah true tho just dont like colossus
but you also dont want to get benched cause mythic bis B)
Boomie prio 
mine crafted a 2h
i am lucky that our boomie crafted a wep
only person im competing against is our deva
he gets more than my arms but my fury gets more than his deva
it is the play anyway
gally is a 100+ pull fight for humans ye
ok spongie lets not act like we are humans
i think im slightly more humanoid in nature than rwf contestants
for i do not dayraid
Might replace my weakauras with it if its good enough
in m+ do you always want to use demolisher while sweeping strikes is up?
guys, in the raid playing with slayer build. Do u use Execute when Sudden Death proc or wait 3x Market for Execution?
You might wanna read a guide
Get the WA that goes โkachingโ when you are supposed to press the execute keybind above 35%
I read but checked some top logs at wowanalyzer and saw a lot execute casts without wait 3x Market and 2 Sudden Death procs.
Well theres also the condition for SD / jugg almost running out
Sounds good. Do u recommend any?
thank you ๐
Hm is heroic Best-in-slots simming lower than mythic track weapon?
yes, at least for me
Yea heroic BiS sims lower than mythic weps
I'm struggling to track exactly when I should use MS during execute phase. Is it only when you have 2 stacks of EP and to apply rend? Or do you also hit it when you have 2 stacks of OP?
2 ep and opportunist isn't up
Do we outscale siren Isle ring?
simulationcraft will tell you
We are prisoners of the ring forever 
Rend gets applied during exec phase
I believe by MS
Although, we don't really have to keep the ring. People are getting by with other rings in its place just fine.
you dont really have to equip upgrades either
acquire these then you wont have to use Cyrce's
what is wrong with you?
OOF
I'm completely fine thank you
i will get heroisch jastor diamant
I hope you will
too easy
I got sparekeys to put up my ass
Lock N Stalk gamers ๐
Guys. I play in german. What you guys mean with SD ? Im New to warrior
But why u need a weakaura for it ?

I will try
stay blissfully unaware
its for the best
there is several conditionals that need to be fullfilled to optimally use SD
mainly to game juggernaut
its very ๐
u basically wanna delay using them as long as u can without overcapping the "ressources"
Within Execute phase, you only care about 2x EP and repplying Rend, correct. Mortal Strike has no conditions (in any content) for OP stacks.
First season With warrior. Its So damn cool
Thanks for the response. The 2 stacks of OP I should have said is 2 stacks of Martial Prowess
I'm trying to get my Luxthos WA to track EP properly in execute phase
right, Martial Prowess is not mentioned on any Mortal Strike conditional, meaning you can safely ignore your OP stacks when it comes to Mortal Strike
regardless if it's raid, m+, colossus, slayer, whatever
literally never tracked
they're just sugar on top when it comes to MS
Luxthos's should track it somewhere, but the way their pack is configured might not put it directly on the spell itself
yeah, like most of his packs it's tracked externally so you gotta juggle that in your brain. The EP stacks are tracked in the top center, above your major CDs:
alternatively you can just put some conditions directly on your MS aura and smoothbrain it
The biggest thing optimization in execute is opportunist iirc and probably the easiest thing to mess up and start to lose the plot on
Its a lil unintuitive and I'm p sure there are times when the APL would hit x3 martial prowess cuz it's not mentioned much
I think maybe appears one line in execute?
it does yes
you just dont worry about casting MS in regards to MP stacks currently present
tbf you can also just drop opportunist for only a ~1% dps loss ๐ต
much easier rotation too
I think opportunist is one of the most thematic things they've made for arms tbh
Like 90% of my hate is from the buff lag
buff lag is so heinous
Yea it pretty much hamstrings an otherwise cool idea
Reacting to an opening quickly is a very opportunistic thing to do so for as simple as it is it fits well with arms warrior
https://wago.io/Q5KkvQ0m2 for the buff lag
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
But the execution is get a weak aura
I've tweaked my luxthos aura to kaching on SD conditionals and to show EP stacks on MS icon. Also removed all the uneeded glows and auras. I can share it if you want to give a try
hi, opportunist is waht resets overpower right? without opportunist wouldnt rage sustain become really bad in execute? even in m+ if cleave resets i can see myself rage starving without it
Yea there's ways around it but shouldn't have to get a WA to make talent feel better
ah yes, the "slow, methodical, tactical arms warrior", reacting mid gcd with to rng
its tactician but they're p much equivalent as slayer
ahhh my bad
I would love to get this if you don't mind sharing!
We if we assume it's a quick opening I think it fits
DM me please so I don't forget when I reach home
i think it belongs in fury, but find it odd in Arms personally ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
It's taking advantage of an opportunity I think it fits well for a methodical warrior
I think "slow methodical tactical warrior" was how blizzard described wod arms
Also known as the worst version of arms to ever curse this wretched world
Done. You're awesome.
It's probably the closest mechanic we have that sounds like our spec description/fantasy
The mid gcd is a buff lag problem tbf. It's very dumb to react to in execute for sure since we spam
That and demolish are probably only things I like about hero specs. If arms just took both of those into the base kit I be happy
just a 10 key but bruh sometimes pug groups are cracked
And bolt during bs ofc
mid gcd buff on opp is atleast outplayable
but mid gcd slayer strike ๐
You don't like seeing jug at 4 seconds? And start to hesitate
(i have a slayer strike counter and when jugg is about to fall off and im at 2 slayer strikes i will hold the global)
this is some fucking cowfarmers tech
Well i can ms but if it procs im on gcd and buff goes bye bye
Tactical

Get the gunner shades on we tactical gamers

I button mash way to much 
why do u think
i made the slayers strike counter
scary weakaura
can someone tell me if this is right? why warbreak after all the big abilities are out?
Thatโs not a opening sequence actually yeah looks right
So you have more globals for the damage buff
I had a sd parry that made jugger fall of
Whag big abilities?
everyone has
play with sub rogues
no more parry
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wait what
)))
Hug butt = no parry
this is bugged
and applies to everyone
not just "your" (read: the rogues) attacks
Wait what
??????
So also 5% more dmg?
Ayooooo
Somehow that makes the bug even weirder
the only big ability listed there is Thunderous Roar really. We don't care much about it's upfront hit, we care more about the DoT it applies (this will automatically scale up when you press Warbreaker).
The reason Warbreaker is so far down the list is because it lets us get the most GCDs within the warbreaker+avatar window that actually matter:
- We lead with Cleave to start stacks rolling of Colossus Might
- Rend via Tclap
- Upfront Thunderous Roar isn't important
- Upfront Ravager isn't important
- Avatar/SS are just prep
-> our actual dps window starts with the cleaves we start casting within the Ravager window, so we move Warbreaker to be as close as possible to when the dps starts actually going out
that should really just be a warrior thing
What about removing parry from the game
fun fact
the ravager gcds are important enough that moving rav after wb is an increase in aoe
does fazed work on dbts parry?
Things like CS/demolish should just never be able to be parried
i am not about to test this
siege breaker applied the SB debuff
Itโs honestly ridiculous that is still a thing
even if it was parried
because blizzard is consistent
and in BFA tom still worked 10 sec after the parry
however in DF it didnt work at all p sure
i love charging into Reverb and getting an immediate parry WA calling me a bozo 
I want that WA
ty ty
I just have a WA that flashes perry the platypus when i get parried
lmao
just an Ashbaby across the whole screen
i dont even track it anymore i just look at details after pull to see how many
as long as it isnt CS
Perry jumpscare to trigger anger
idk why they refuse to budge on it


it adds nothing to the game
instead they make demo last hit unparryable
stop tip toeing around the fuck shit ffs
should i prioritize House of Cards or Best-in-Slots while slamming my CDs? cause i saw one sends the other in 15s cds, sims say i should slam HoC first, then BiS when it pops out of cd, but i did read around and someone says it is correct to go HoC first and someone else says "slam BiS first" im a bit confused
perried!
Trinket first
also thank you all for the advices yesterday about BiS ๐
Wep with next CS
so ideally, during my opener in raid, i should use first CD window for the usual rotation with HoC, then saving Weapon for the successive CS window
some chad has bis macroed to MS
any uptodate tww S2 spell reflect WA?
In the dps faq

kind of a noob question but if I use 100% parry and intervene on someone it should 100% parry all attacks. But I tried it a few times and it seemed inconsistent. One time I just got blasted into oblivion. Any Tips on how to use it and why it behaves like this? What am I doing or understanding wrong?
You parry melee attacks only
Ahhh so ranged attacks cant be parried wow thanks it just made click
What's the approximate cd on bs with am
45
yes. hunters also are not effektet from spell or phys reflekt on normal attacks
I see, this make Die by the sword very bad in PvP against hunters aswell then. Gotcha thanks for the headsup I was truly wondering ๐
it was added very briefly and then reverted 
there was a short time in one of the expansion betas where we could DbtS+Intervene to mitigate ranged phys attacks
hate that they made safeguard a pvp talent only
remember in shadowlands being able to use a covenant talent slot to let intervene give dr to people you intervene
we used to have vigilance

casual 20% external DR as a melee dps
it was a different game then really. if we had that now warrior would be insane
just hand out a pain sup to anyone needing to run out and drop off a mech
it was too good to be true
basically no downside to it and saving a mate on such a short CD
it was insane
yea
the game didnt really have fights that required it
we didnt know how good we had it
is mechagon the only dungeon with no weapon? thats crazy
Is radiant power a good overall enchant for weapon this tier if you are doing m plus and raiding?
Ye itโs good if you play both
alright, but why roar jsut before avatar, isntead of the other way around
bc the initial damage of raor is so little that you would rather have 1 more global in avatar
Rawr
whats stix%
Lucked out and got that funhouse lense w my map 
0 because we killed him
we got to 50% but i feel like % doesnt even matter
its just having people roll into bombs and hit scrap masters
Yeah boomy carries the shitty range players who don't swap to bombshells
also just carries adds
Usually there's enough melee to blender them as adds get to the boss
animals
Speaking of ranged not swapping to ranged targets
During rik โprogโ the ranged pyro kept consistently blowing up and they were bitching about the lack of arms add damage on the same ranged pyros
Lmao
Like bruh how about 9 RANGED do the RANGED pyro

What crafted weapon is recommended? and what embelishment?
All 2hs are the same and it depends if you want to get ascension with armor band for more raid focused damage or a combination of Dawn/dusk on other gear slots for M+ damage
Pretty much only do m+
Iโd do 2x dawnthread then
Gear around having the crit embellish instead of the vers one
Alright thanks!
Gl!
Yea, Iโve been praying for a m wep in vault to no avail
You could honestly keep holding out odds are pretty high to get a 2h vault weapon
Unless you need damage for raid
And come to think of it
If craft weapon you save 15 crests fully upgrading a myth vault weapon
You just lose the sparks
Tough decision but I think I would have crafted if my first two vaults didnโt have a weapon
you say that, and yet I still haven't seen one! 

I crafted early havent seen weap yet so totally worth it
Yea, I crafted prior to the second spark giveaway, holding my spark now until I get another as a fail safe
Thereโs an achievement now for clearing all 12s eh?
4 more to go if so
there's a mount at 3k iirc
If i wear peacemaker thats happen
do we swap circlet out for mythic rings still? or has that changed?
and what exactly is supposed to be happening here?
kazan is a better trinket then pacemaker. and your other trinket is myth track max
p ovb its gonna do better
My heroic rings outsimmed Circe in colossus m+ spec
Didnโt outsim them in ST or fury anything though
Hey guys whats the biggest Mortal Strike damage you usually do in High Keys, witouth externals, only personal proccs, trinks etc.
noted, just thought because I got 2nd boss mythic ring
Why is bulletproof BiS over slashproof? feels like the slash stats are better (according to the stat priority)
is it just BiS at a certain stat threshold?
idk ye probably but you also are nowhere near the point you should care about a bis list
bullets are harder to defend against
at what point would that be?
im just curious because if BiS myth track is different than BiS heroic track, that's important
I'm 665
okay so its probably just DR on stats or something
idk it maybe comes down to race aswell i never checked
you need to stop caring about bis lists king
equip what you have access to and sim to tell your council what you need
I agree
Execute bis lists next season. Lol to many ppl don't understand
Eventually they'll stop asking for it
And just sim like your supposed to
ROFL
sim it 
true, its actually so grief to make decisions based on that list
It's a guide more or less. Simming is always the best way to test gear combos
ratfangle
I gotta quick sim it again later and see if it waits for 5 stacks or if I can just macro it to Ava and forget it
even then its pretty unrealistic to aim for, a lot of it is vault drops only
you could go the entire season without seeing a M+ item from myth track
aint taking any item unless its bis
658 ilv pov in a 665 kinda world
fishy why havent you killed ansurek yet

Hello guys what should i craft when i have back and wrists ?
if ye give me galaxy of fame
its still a fuckin mess
starting to get robos more involved
me and mate been playing, we speed ran the planets basically now just sorta researching and getting ready to go to the end space thing
haven't simmed yet, but wondering if hc Best-In-Slots is performing better than a myth weapon. Does anyone know?
worse than a myth track weapon
What am I looking at!
factorio
thanks
show nauvis
cant fit it all in screen, not been back to earth yet
where are the trains
explode
me omw to get 500 biter eggs and send them in to fight the big destroyer
surely 500 bugs vs big snake will be amusing
this definitely works
cluegi
tbh they should buff wrecking throw
not by some crazy amount but it does less damage than an unbuffed colossus execute
arms play crit/mastery for keys?
i got enough crests to craft myself another 675 piece, tho most of what i wanjna craft are tier pieces, i can't catalyze those, wso how about a ring? is it worth it
mister lock-N-stalk trinket is crazy wtf
what spec you guys suggest for stix?
fury
Fury just does that fight well itโs hard not to honestly
Hi all, just wondering what peoples stat prio is? Parsing worse in raid on HC but people seem to be running 15000+ haste, is that normal? Im on around 12k at the moment.
sim
I've top geared sim, but cant see where id see stats?
dunno if im missing something
Is it worth holding ravager for warbreak and for how long if so?
equip what it says
i think and 25% haste is enough. Waiting for cofirmation
Im on around 23% haste, was previously 17% so hopefully see a increase
yeah slayer loves haste
any one with cap haste ><
no point in feelycrafting when u can sim as colossus and see what it tells you
It didn't feel awful to play, but mastery is currently 40% which I think is relativley high. Obviously not optimized gear
but colossus generally prefers crit/mastery over haste
these are my stats at 663.56 with house of cards / mechanocore
but it depends on ur gear and should always sim
for Raid ST i use patchwerk 1 boss 5 min
for M+ colossus i use patchwerk 5 boss 5 min
am i wrong ?
Yeah, totally get it mate - Thank you
for m+ i run st and 5t
but generally it wants the same stats
prob should run 10t cause its way more accurate this season
5T is fine
5 min or 3 min
5 min for better accuracy
oaky
my understanding is
if you have access to myth weapons
use those
otherwise crafted weapon is best
you should have enough for both at this point (we have 3 sparks available currently)
can you repeat Dungeons for Emissary of War?
great thx!
How long is it worth holding Ravager for Warbreaker?
always hold rav for next warbreaker
How do I crank as arms and make my Guildies cry
look at wowhead rotation guide
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hit the dummies
it is how you can go from 0 to doing damage on any spec in 30-60 minutes
step 1. copy the rotation on wowhead
step 2. wonder why overpower > execute but if you have sweeping strikes, execute > overpower
step 3. pump without ever knowing
I think I am confused on the rotation in mythic plus
Am I trying to fit Demolish in the warbreak window?
always
Damn I feel like its tight with 10 secs and all the GCDs
does anybody know if a crafted 675 weapons is better than a 665 best in slots or the other way around
675 crafted but always sim
10 ilvls on weapon is insane
yeah thats what i thought and it would let me use house of cards
For M Carnage is there a consensus on popping all CDs on pull vs popping on Clash? HIgh lvl parses seem split but not sure what to practice
hi pookie
hiii
Does someone have an apl to put the kezan full stack instantly in a sim perhaps
Best way to make them cry, play around the sweeping strikes talent collateral damage, you can do some nutty damage with it. Basically at end of the pack try time it right, when u use SS, for every single target ability that hits an additional target you get a stack of collateral damage, you can get 10 stacks easy but if u have enough haste/gcd u can get up to like 14-15.
Each stack gives your next cleave 25% more damage, so 10 stacks ur next cleave is 250% more damage
Make sure u have ravager up for the pack u wanna do big damage cause ravager makes cleave damage increase by 50%, you also warbreak for 30% more as well as 10 stack of demolish for another 10% (I think) and avatar another 20% you hit like a truck. I've gotten do 18m dps on cinderbrew and I know critcake has a video on it where he got like 22m dps
Hello fellow arms. I'm returning after maining a healer this season
How is arms doing overall right now'
?
get 20 stacks
wait next pack and pop with ravager
its cinema
20 stack crit with all cooldowns 
so everyones going blademasters now?
Question: why do we keep poping SS before Ravager precisely since the MSs from it cannot interact?
to not waste a global
during mbg
what was mbg? sorry
merciless bonegrinder
cleave does 50% more damage during ravager
got it
dont forget whirlwind my king
what is that
saldy ww is like a vestigial organ right no for arms
eww fury ability
not sadly at all
fuck ww
now*+
Yes i'm happier that cleave has a function now unlike in half of Dragonflight
how is arms considered right now among meeles?
amogus
It's strong
Ss + bladmaster it be add ?
powerful
I just haven't seen other arms players in my M+ right now so my only experience is me with my friends and right now my Beastmaster buddy kicks my ass still hahah
Perhaps I'm not that good at sustaining damage still
Check out critcake's youtube channel
critcake gapped gingi
He has some good arms videos
oh Crit is pumping some mastery... interesting
Try gapping unholy
Cuz he gears fury and plays arms with fury gear
@warped plume :chatting:
ah weird
Mastery is better for mythic+ right?
im like a mid uhdk comparing me to you is not fair 
chatting
colo arms is a bit pickier
with stats tbh
Try it out. I've been running with higher crit rating for mythic+ and doing fine with it so far.

you are stupid
Do you still pop some MSs even when out of SS time?
