Now only vault. Might as well do a couple of rat keys
#arms
slow saddle
dark oyster
what do you mean done? already reached 675?
slow saddle
Nah but nothing but vault left
And keys are done fast with guildies
Ill hold back a bit with pushin until im better geared
( or well my inexperienced guildies have improved)
unique cypress
So if the comp is say a vdh, boomkin, fire mage would arms or fury be better
fleet lake
fury or arms for raid
minor gust
both
fleet lake
are we just sending or hold warbreaker and bladestorm for add phases
minor gust
dependent on fight and how fast your guild kills adds and you will never take warbreaker in raid
slow saddle
Tbh send it all the timr
fleet lake
is it more like just senc and adds come u use sweeping
slow saddle
When u can
minor gust
you will never hold cs besides for cauldron
fleet lake
line it up with bs? or just send
olive nest
Yee hold cs for sweep during clash
minor gust
just send
slow saddle
U send cs always hold other shit for cs in gen
minor gust
no holdy
slow saddle
But tbh i jusy send
fleet lake
so if i have 30 sec on cs do i send bs or hold it
fleet lake
gotya
thx
https://de.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xYVdPFgK39aGmwvA?fight=65&type=damage-done can yall check for major rotation issues ?
i died cause of bombs
humble oxide
Is the K.u.j.o trinket any good?
lean geode
https://de.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xYVdPFgK39aGmwvA?fight=65&type=damage-done c...
Slap that ritzelkrämer log into wowanalyzer bud
sharp rivet
should we have two factured sparks this week?
minor gust
you should have 3 total sparks this week
sharp rivet
yah thats what i thought but ive done 7/8 hc raid bosses and only have half a spark in my bags 😦 I spent two on weapon.
minor gust
you only get sparks from raid bosses/M+ if you are behind a week
sharp rivet
oh where do the come form? weekly quest chest?
minor gust
if u want this spark that came out this week you need to do the weekly quest
brittle fiber
sup bozo
sharp rivet
do you know which one that is? i didnt see quest by the catalyst
minor gust
Hi coat
gray herald
do you know which one that is? i didnt see quest by the catalyst
it's 4 dungeons this week i think
wait no
minor gust
its at the table where you get the 4 dungeon quest
gray herald
the other one at that table
sharp rivet
worldsoul machines?
sharp rivet
theres the dungeon one, 4 mythic dungeons and worldsoul.
sharp rivet
cool thx
made weapon with last two sparks.. any tips on what to make this week? Embellished 'whatever is lowest ilvl' i guess?
shadow ibex
yea its a safe bet
i used the free heroic crest from clearing the raid to make a cape yesterday
cape was lowest ilvl slot
minor gust
if you dont have easy access to myth track gear you can slam a high stat piece
aka if you dont raid
shadow ibex
idk if using myth crest on cape was the play so i just went with the heroic crest
rather send myth crest on trinket and myth tier chest
minor gust
I sent myth track on my second craft tbh prob wasnt worth but idc
shadow ibex
yea i dont think it matters much at all
biggest goal was getting achivement to buy gilded
minor gust
my character is pretty fuckin stacked
if I got lucky and got wep from vault I would be giga juiced right now
shadow ibex
yea kinda done gearing now just need raid loot
i went from like 659 to 665 last night
mostly cuz 20 ilvls going from 639 trink to eye
minor gust
I lost out on cauldron ring and rik neck last night because im not playing arms for Stix
shadow ibex
we saw caudl ring but i didnt expect to get it as trial so idc
minor gust
Thane fury just works so well for that fight its a lil silly to prog it as arms
hollow plover
honestly
if you have a lot of aoe for the adds
like double balance double spriest or some shit
i think u can just arms ST
no?
shadow ibex
we have a balance like 3 mages and i think an spriest
so i was thinking of sending arms
shadow ibex
i wanna see how it looks with mage and ww nerfs
since we didnt do a pull of it this week
minor gust
our enhance is swapping to ele tonight for stix prog because we lack some range dmg to get the bombs in
shadow ibex
if our adds are still melting i might just send arms
minor gust
faster those bombshells die the easier things are
shadow ibex
the only ones that seemd bad were far
and fury/arms aint gonna change anthing there
i dont think we had many pulls where someone hit a crab coming in to hit boss
unless they came from bad direction
minor gust
it happens which is why its best they die quick. The boss will die its not a dmg check
shadow ibex
with the mage nerfs ill probably just send thane
fleet lake
Next question I’m sorry boys
Before execute i just spamm ms when it’s up? Or do i even care buffing it with overpower
Cause wow analyzer tells me I’m not pressing ms enough
lean geode
Generally MS on cd
The only things that take priority are opportunist overpower and exe with jugg/sd/mfe conditions
gentle frigate
So what’s the arms rotation? Are we capped at whatever cleave is in AOE?
bitter escarp
minor gust
Before execute i just spamm ms when it’s up? Or do i even care buffing it with o...
I would check out any of the guides linked in https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715 if you havent already can find a lot of the answers to your questions there.
if theres anything confusing to you in the guides feel free to ask in here
half vine
Question about WB + Demo....if you start Demo when WB has 1sec left on mob, will the full Demo cast get the benefit of WB? or do you have to complete the cast of Demo with WB still up to get the benefit of WB?
minor gust
Demo does 3 hits in its cast 2 ST hits and 1 big aoe hit. If CS falls off before the 3rd final hit it will not be affected by CS but the first two will
sharp rivet
if you were going to play both arms and fury would you choose haste crit or haste mastery for crafted gear?
minor gust
Mastery is better for arms than crit is for fury so haste mastery
sharp rivet
thanks mr bozo 🙂 appreciated.
dense vector
I lost out on cauldron ring and rik neck last night because im not playing arms ...
i got cauldron ring with leech and it just sims bad
minor gust
ok
minor gust
Congratz I guess?
bitter escarp
thats neat
dense vector
no i felt bad i won it then it simmed shit when it probably would have been better for a healer lmao
it soulbound and i couldnt trade
sharp rivet
dumb question - why is that called cauldron ring?
bitter escarp
probably a bigger dps upgrade for you than a healer tbh
especially mistweavers smh
ripe quartz
dumb question - why is that called cauldron ring?
boss name that drops it
dense vector
dumb question - why is that called cauldron ring?
sharp rivet
i googled it and it said flarendo so i got thrown lol thanks
dense vector
hes just the one that you loot
sharp rivet
apparently he's furious.. probably at being killed
frail sphinx
I was very conflicted about the ring and the chest(with +speed bonus). chest with speed can I find it again?, don't think so. But if I switch to Fury with the ring it won't do me any good, there's too much crit. what to do what to do
dense vector
I was very conflicted about the ring and the chest(with +speed bonus). chest wi...
hoop of the blighted sims really well for me
hollow plover
i got cauldron ring with leech and it just sims bad
arms needs a shitton of haste to function in ST so if you're running low on haste then that's likely why it sims bad
frail sphinx
hoop of the blighted sims really well for me
I'm thinking about the Faded Championship, I eliminated Hob
lean geode
Champion ring or chest probs
Ring comes from 2nd boss so probably not that bad to get
dense vector
arms needs a shitton of haste to function in ST so if you're running low on hast...
have around 30%
hollow plover
have around 30%
yo if you want to communicate with people in terms of stats - say the amount of haste you have, not the shown percentage
cause aint no shot anyone is remembering arms haste conversion rate
dense vector
yo if you want to communicate with people in terms of stats - say the amount of ...
18,761 with 15,430 crit
olive nest
Kronzo yapping I never communicate with the actual stat value lmao
My sims put me around 20% haste for aoe sim (colossus M+) and 28% with st sim (Slayer raid)
That’s with the gear in my bags
olive nest
Idr crit off the top of my head
I think it was around 36% in aoe sim
And 30% in ST sim
That all being said
Simulate your own gear that you have in your bags and use that don’t hyper fixate on not having X% stat
gentle frigate
Does anyone else hate using slam as a filler?
olive nest
I don’t mind slam either
Though I wish they’d just combine slam and rend already personally
And let cleave apply both instead of giving arms thunderclap or something
whole steppe
678 pacemaker with 665 hoc or 665 hoc and eye of kezan 658
wowhead says eye of kezan and hoc is the best duo but there is item level diff and idk pacemaker crit is very good as a passive
whole steppe
wdym
olive nest
If you kill bosses faster than 5 minutes other trinkets can be better than eye
gilded basin
sweet
naive sage
How does the out of combat decay work?
whole steppe
What was the ratfang
delicate pagoda
i think cards is no brainer here
dawn notch
i think cards is no brainer here
Hc mechano might be close and harder to obtain
hollow wave
There is already Deep wounds, I think the existence of Rend very unnecessary
whole steppe
It’s a delve trinket lol
how tf delve trinket is sims better than eye of kezan ...
dense vector
Like in SL didn’t it increase crit damage
dense vector
how tf delve trinket is sims better than eye of kezan ...
Eye has to stack up first before it’s good
whole steppe
yeah but how much time it needs to stack
dense vector
And if fight ends before fully stacked or shortly after it doesn’t get much value
olive nest
how tf delve trinket is sims better than eye of kezan ...
Telling you friend! Eye needs 5+ minute fights
dense vector
Minutes
delicate pagoda
Hc mechano might be close and harder to obtain
true wiill se what weekly qeust gives first 🙂
whole steppe
If that only pumps 5+ minute fights then you have to do mythic raid
still fox
any one know, delv trinket energy drink?
whole steppe
Because from this reset even hc bosses 4 minutes
dense vector
any one know, delv trinket energy drink?
Yea I got one it’s good
olive nest
If that only pumps 5+ minute fights then you have to do mythic raid
Exactly
That’s why blindly following best in slot lists is not optimal
dense vector
Because from this reset even hc bosses 4 minutes
Eye has 5 procs per minute so it takes 4 minutes to fully stack
I think
still fox
ok i have 658 mecha amp and 665 energy sim say 0,4% better than i test it
whole steppe
i am not even talk about m+ tho, it must be worst for M+
dense vector
It can be good for m+ if your tank is god
whole steppe
bosses are 2-3 minutes, adds are 1 to 1.30 minute
olive nest
The only key was able to maintain stacks in reasonably was cinderbrew
dense vector
But if you die it’s bad
olive nest
And lost all stacks flying up to the last boss area
Maybe motherload? Where you can theoretically have zero down time
Lose a few on the mine cart ride
whole steppe
i feel like pacemaker and hoc must be better
dense vector
They are
whole steppe
also my pace is 678
olive nest
Idk it’s not a great dungeon trinket imo it loses stacks way to fast
whole steppe
sick
dense vector
Eye is just sim bait
whole steppe
yeah it seems like
olive nest
Well not exactly
It’s a great trinket for long fights
Everywhere else there are better options
gilded basin
even with the downtime kezan is crazy good
whole steppe
but also only thing that keeps long fight is mythic raiding
quasi torrent
even with the downtime kezan is crazy good
177300
whole steppe
or one or two mythic dungeons
whole steppe
yeah you can change it at gally ofc
olive nest
Realistically it’s a mythic only trinket
Wait until we have 18% raid buff LOL
2 minute heroic bosses
quasi torrent
Lock n stalk stocks way up
mr cbt
olive nest
gilded basin
idk wtf u want from me lmao
broken arrow
On heroic Cauldron of Carnage , zone out for a second, ah good old execute phase should be soon. BOSS 7% HP 
livid furnace
Hey guys.
If i was trying to maximise AOE DPS for high level keys such as Cinderbrew, is it worth speccing Blademaster's torment?
instead of warlords?
minor gust
if you want more aoe you play blademasters
shadow ibex
livid furnace
thank you and also warbreaker over standard Collosus Smash?
hexed snow
Blue circle on gallywix when he's about to blow is so bad
minor gust
CS is not the standard for M+
zenith warren
noggenfogger that good?
minor gust
zenith warren
kek
boreal quartz
thank you and also warbreaker over standard Collosus Smash?
Always wb as colossus
lunar remnant
What’s a good target % for crit strike? Games feeding me mastery / haste gear but trying to get a arms set going
I’m at like 34% right now
true ridge
How much haste you got though
lament fjord
guys we should have 3 crafts now, right?
true ridge
3 sparks yeah
lament fjord
hmm
lunar remnant
How much haste you got though
Like 22%
boreal quartz
What’s a good target % for crit strike? Games feeding me mastery / haste gear bu...
Doesnt matter
Just sim
lunar remnant
Well I’m using the crafted 2h and bracers with haste / vers on them so I can swap to fury or arms without losing much on crit or mastery but the sims will tell me to get get crafted gear with haste/crit and haste / mastery
lament fjord
missing a fractured spark then wth
boreal quartz
Id just topgear without recafting the items and go off of that
lunar remnant
true I’ll do that then
true ridge
Yeah let the sim do the work
split smelt
what do we think?
lofty elm
Anyone know if embellishments scale with ilvl?
lofty elm
what do we think?
depends on your gear but if you haven't got myth weapon yet then probs the hivebreaker
cinder verge
should i be using the noggenfogger ultimate deluxe trinket or is it just bait?
quasi torrent
thats a lot of titles
prisma comet
what is the best talent to drop so I can talent bitter immunity in m+ this week?
quasi torrent
just press IV
winged dirge
In m+ build Without executioners talented, do I just overpower > execute under 20% even if rage capped? Seems to do much more damage and set bonus benefit. I guess the tradeoff is anger management.... But overpower seems much stronger?
quasi torrent
u just blindly follow ms > op > exe prio
shadow ibex
you'll be at cap yea
can drop FB for 2/2 bb for less rage but might find yourself occasional starve. i think 1 rage talent either bloodsurge or FB feel good
paper gulch
Anyone else doing the Underpin
smoky kayak
noooo my 99s on cauldron and Rik turned to 98s gg time to end it
my R5 on Rik is still R5, whew! 
prob would have gotten 3 or 4 if I hadn't inted one of my bladestorms
minor gust
My rik is r4
smoky kayak
or ya know, if three people wouldn't die every intermission every time we do that fight; some people cannot dodge shit to literally save their lives
toxic socket
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vwEpWhc33P4ye8MHzys9bU is eye of kezan just not that good on HC level then?
dry summit
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vwEpWhc33P4ye8MHzys9bU is eye of kezan ju...
Fights are just to short for eye
toxic socket
wait really? even raid?
toxic socket
eh, no fight is going that long xD
bold granite
Fuck eye of kezan
toxic socket
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dHPxTJph4j3kMVGBpS9b2G yeah it does.. but what fight is that long xD
dry summit
Well lets check
swift crown
Lockenstock is 6 min roughly
Bandit is 7
It's a trinket made to be good for prog basically
dry summit
Only fight really is gallywix
grizzled estuary
guys i need advice regarding sims pls i'm lost
iirc theres no real stat prio for us and it should be a well balanced optimization
even with the 16mil combination i'm hitting a wall as i really dont know what to pick and stuff (thus rapidly coming higher than 16mil), shall i somehow shortcut the combination by ignoring certain items (e.g not more than 1 vers item, certain rings...)
im interested in both ST and AOE
sorry if thats not really clear
dire hinge
it's easy to overcomplicate it too. 16M combinations is a lot
you can vastly scale back on the types of enchants and gems you're selecting and that'll likely address most of your combinations
grizzled estuary
yes indeed, i understand im failing at identifying the right items to sim, thats what im trying to formualte
thanks
dire hinge
I'd start with the basics on what Arms is recommended and only include those. The caveat is that Gems/Ring enchants can vary a little bit, which is really the only consumables that you'd see variance in
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/enchants-gems-pve-dps
grizzled estuary
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kmDQZmU4r3oN8A5LzRzSyy
because im oviously failing something right? like i suppose i should sim higher with that ilvl
tyvm sir
dire hinge
there's a lot of small things that you've customized that you shouldn't have to sweat
like you disabled Hunters Mark in your sim (5% damage above 80%)
grizzled estuary
yea like gems and stuff, enchant too
dire hinge
this wont change too much, but honestly don't sweat that level of detail
just keep em enabled
grizzled estuary
loud and clear thank you so much
modest grotto
Hello there, quick question.
This week, if we crafted a 2H weapon last time, do we go for a writhing embellish or start crafting a dusk/dawn piece ?
true ridge
I'm gonna go writhing but idk you do you
shadow ibex
if you crafted a 2h weapon with ascendence yea probably good idea to craft writhing armor patch on some piece
dire hinge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kmDQZmU4r3oN8A5LzRzSyy
because im ovious...
it's all small stuff, like you have Council's Guile applied to your weapon (aoe enchant) but you're doing a Single Target sim. Also arms takes a different armor kit for legs. 2.4M does seem to be roughly correct for your gear though from what I can see, but some small tweaks can get you from a 1.3% improvement to closer to 1.9% instead.
This kind of demonstrates how it's important to gem/enchant, but also don't overthink it too hard bc it's like a 0.6% difference between what you currently had and whats 'optimal'. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/unBXhjdV7animmCzS5tuvS
grizzled estuary
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c8K5mZKSqcjufpVNSmjKKf yea apparently this, thank you so much king
dire hinge
of course, happy to help 🎉
grizzled estuary
yea this i dont understand about weapon enchantment btw, looks like it wont make me play depth
dire hinge
It doesn't look like it's selected in your sim
smoky kayak
it is, you just need to check the second box
otherwise, it won't try to override existing enchants
unique bridge
Any reason locknstock trinket in single target mode does better in AoE sims than the AoE toggle?
smoky kayak
unless you're overriding it, the trinket automatically swaps based on the number of targets in the sim
unique bridge
oh does it? Was that updated? I saw on a wowhead comment they had to toggle the mode before using /simc but maybe that was just silly?
smoky kayak
nope, it's been that way since the pre-release implementation
unique bridge
Is there anyway to sim the difference then? or is it just safely assumed over cleave/5 target the AoE mode would be better
smoky kayak
you can manually override it with
thewarwithin.mister_locknstalk_mode= either single_target or aoe
unique bridge
Alright i'll take a look thanks @smoky kayak
random ibex
of course, happy to help 🎉
Able to take a look at my sim? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fgZjFLCmmr5nBdE6wCtvNa
hollow crane
do we ever replace the [Cyrce's Circlet] ?
limpid apex
Yo, can somebody tell me if Sweeping Strikes cleaves Unhinged or not ? I've read different answers on this topic...
mild sierra
do we ever replace the [Cyrce's Circlet] ?
with myth level rings
but its like the last slot to spend crests on
shadow ibex
Yo, can somebody tell me if Sweeping Strikes cleaves Unhinged or not ? I've read...
it doesnt no
vagrant hull
I got a 99 parse (ilvl) on sprocket heroic last night on our prog kill. Guild doesn't care but I just wanted to share with someone as I'm proud of it. Go me! 14th overall, probably the best parse ill ever get.
minor gust
boreal quartz
I got a 99 parse (ilvl) on sprocket heroic last night on our prog kill. Guild do...
whats the real log
hollow crane
but its like the last slot to spend crests on
thanks for info
simple wren
trying to figure out the whole "different gem colors for max effect" thing but no matter how i sim i dont get the suggestion on combining three different colors? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/am5hK6fxp4p9khnZU6HuBp
random ibex
trying to figure out the whole "different gem colors for max effect" thing but n...
Above the gems settings you need to select, “replace existing gems” and also check “always use” and “only max colors” under the meta gem selection
orchid ledge
trying to figure out the whole "different gem colors for max effect" thing but n...
Just curious what's your avg single target looking like? I'm new to arms, trying to gauge dmg comparisons
random ibex
Just curious what's your avg single target looking like? I'm new to arms, trying...
Whatever the robot tells you should be your “max DPS”. Practice till you get close
simple wren
Above the gems settings you need to select, “replace existing gems” and also che...
thanks!
nimble basin
in raid
teal fossil
are we meant to do terrible damage arms st, pre exe?
"terrible" is a strong word
dim basalt
Its pretty average pre exe
random ibex
are we meant to do terrible damage arms st, pre exe?
Nope
Should be middle
Of the road and then be top in execute
lyric horizon
when wowanalyzer has execute like this does that mean im not pressing it soon enough or too soon?
random ibex
when wowanalyzer has execute like this does that mean im not pressing it soon en...
Too soon. There’s a WA on wago that will tell you when to use execute. You don’t use sudden death on cd anymore
lyric horizon
Too soon. There’s a WA on wago that will tell you when to use execute. You don’t...
Ok thanks 👍 all my wowanalyzer have that for execute and I couldn't figure out why lol
Do you happen to have a link to it or would searching execute be enougj
random ibex
Ok thanks 👍 all my wowanalyzer have that for execute and I couldn't figure out ...
The goal is to use sudden death when one of those conditions is met @lyric horizon
shadow ibex
die jug die
random ibex
The name is something like “SD execute conditions
minor gust
this was a 13 and their playing the two most easiest specs in the game holy
orchid ledge
Is that overall?
minor gust
yes
orchid ledge
Nice man
shadow ibex
how can people be so bad
names checks out on hunter
orchid ledge
Bummer!
shadow ibex
yea thats idk
lyric horizon
The name is something like “SD execute conditions
hmm, im only finding one for fury
dawn prairie
if your looking for the arms one its in here
is there a fury one also?
minor gust
there is
orchid ledge
Gives me hope to strive for that dps. I'm 654 and pulling between 1.5-1.8 overall. But ST i pulled 1-1.4 but my Sims read 1.6, so it's a bit reassuring
minor gust
not linked in DPS FAQ idk why
minor gust
is there a fury one also?
teal fossil
is there a prot one also?
orchid ledge
You're playing slayer for your m+ build? Or was it colo
minor gust
is there a prot one also?
latent moss
https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ
🐐
minor gust
lyric horizon
if your looking for the arms one its in here
ah i see it doesnt apply to execute phase though
or it does and im dumb still
but yea thats what i was looking for though, tyty 😄
random ibex
is there a prot one also?
The conditions only apply to slayer hero spec
minor gust
the conditionals only apply for outside of execute phase
teal fossil
the conditions only apply if you are subbed to world of warcraft
minor gust
something something 40/40/10/10
hollow lagoon
you guys use whetstones or oil ?
lyric horizon
oh also is there a way i can better keep track of martial prowess?
astral yarrow
you dont really care about it
lyric horizon
ah so when wowanalyzer has me at 40% for overpower during execute phase its more for the opportunist buff?
astral yarrow
just think about it as a way to balance your rage expenditure in execute
but it has priority during opportunist yeah
let me find the specific line
actions.slayer_execute+=/overpower,if=buff.martial_prowess.stack<2&buff.opportunist.up&talent.opportunist&(talent.bladestorm|talent.ravager&rage<85)
so OP if
- Prowess is less than 2 stacks
- and opportunist is up
- (some ravager specific things, cause slayer is ass)
but this pretty much boils down to press OP if Opportunist procs
lyric horizon
and that takes precedence over execute range, so typically ill build up execute stacks, and lets say opportunist pops up after i get 2 stacks, do i favor op over mortal strike?
dawn prairie
just think about it as a way to balance your rage expenditure in execute
slayers i feel like only viable in raid
astral yarrow
dont check warrior parses on mythic Bandit
lyric horizon
looool
i was shocked at mine when we first cleared
felt like i was doing so much to be so surprised
fresh spire
but this pretty much boils down to press OP if Opportunist procs
Press op
shit crits as hard as a stacked ms
minor gust
astral yarrow
OP is OP
fresh spire
olive nest
shadow ibex
OP my beloved
finite panther
For best in slot is it better to hold it and use it every other avatar or just send it
olive nest
Prob bind to cs/wb and alternate with trinket or something
smoky kayak
Yo, can somebody tell me if Sweeping Strikes cleaves Unhinged or not ? I've read...
originally it did, but that was changed so that it no longer does
for awhile after it was bugged to still give some additional buff-related benefits despite not cleaving damage, but that is also no longer true
slow saddle
originally it did, but that was changed so that it no longer does
for awhile aft...
Still super sad they remove that interaxtion
smoky kayak
I had something clever to say but now I can't find the right word
it's been a long day already and my brain is going 404 not found
limpid apex
originally it did, but that was changed so that it no longer does
for awhile aft...
i see, thanks for clarifying
smoky kayak
Still super sad they remove that interaxtion
I liked it cleaving, but not cleaving damage while still benefitting from it was pretty much the definition of "unintuitive"
so it needed to change one way or the other, and Unhinged is already really strong even as a purely ST talent, so I'm not too broken up about it
fresh spire
bring back the sweep
amber nova
anyone know the recommended mode for locknstalk in keys?
unique cypress
anyone know the recommended mode for locknstalk in keys?
Mass for everything except bosses for the most part I believe
Can you swap the mode during keys?
olive nest
Yeah swap it on the fly for full potential
Or just set it to one or the other depending on weather you want aoe or prio
I was running it on prio mode while I was using it
slow saddle
I liked it cleaving, but not cleaving damage while still benefitting from it was...
Great talent 100% i just liked that sweep gave u more hits. 
smoky kayak
yeah I get that, super good for demolish
slow saddle
Wss nice in raid as well with slayer. But in gen id just wish col was bis in st as well
So i could play it a tier
In raid
smoky kayak
good chance we might have if Fury wasn't so strong at the same time
olive nest
I just play arms anyway I’m kinda beans at this version of fury tbh
Actual practice would help but ehh arms is fun
smoky kayak
I don't think its right that Colossus is better than Slayer in ST and MT
however, I do think, perfect world, that Execute should be a little more specialized, making Colossus a good choice for fights that aren't focused on it
arctic fjord
what build for rik? most people seem to be going for ST, but bladestorm and sweeping is not up for every set of adds right?
olive nest
ST build, send on cd, sweep barrels best you can
If adds are a problem you really gotta just bite the bullet and play fury
arctic fjord
yeah I think it's set 2 and 3 that feel bad because they come so fast
olive nest
I don't think its right that Colossus is better than Slayer in ST and MT
however...
Colo is better in ST? I didn’t even realize that, been playing slayer build
arctic fjord
If adds are a problem you really gotta just bite the bullet and play fury
maybe I'll go fury ty
olive nest
Glgl!
boreal quartz
yo 87 is p good
aquire some more ilvl and ur on the path to like 95+
but also mega beneficial killtime 
boreal quartz
ur bad
naive breach
coc
vagrant hull
yo 87 is p good
Thanks! I'm happy with it, I'm a filthy casual so it's nice to do well every now and then.
random ibex
do we still run legendary skippers in circlet? ?
minor gust
no
minor gust
looks like bis colossus stats to me
random ibex
true... i am also looking to start making the swap to fury because progging the fury bosses now
shadow ibex
Yea it's a bug
olive night
kinda op no?
shadow ibex
Gives us two fear breaks in pvp
Not really
Relevant v locks
Only class that can fear you twice in a row
olive night
shadow priest? warrior?
shadow ibex
Both have cds where you wouldn't be using it twice
Against priest warrior comps and such sure
But not op imo Those comps aren't great tbh. Maybe with holy buffs
sacred zodiac
olive night
yes
proper arch
weekly dungeon quest 
pure brook
can i ask you something? i managed to get Heroic Best-in-Slots, should i macro it on something or not? and if i should, what CD should i macro with? i already have Avatar and trinket, idk if placing another on-use item there could broke something
reef glade
just random off cycle cd buttons would either be like cs or bs/rav
only 2 that prolly make sense
imagine they work but not sure
fury slaps it on reck usually
pure brook
i did a Mug'zee run with BiS macroed on CS and it worked fine tho, dunno if it is smooth
reef glade
ya I mean if it feels aight it’s prolly fine
mild sierra
just random off cycle cd buttons would either be like cs or bs/rav
if ur unlucky u might use it right beofre ur trinket
not good
daring heron
glass sphinx
Any1 have a good winning streak weak aura ? can't find any on wago
fresh spire
Don't think many track it since its just simpler to play around opportunist than the tier.
Check maxroll. Maybe revvez has one there
charred shoal
how do you sim embelishments? maybe im being blind but i can seem to find it
daring pagoda
charred shoal
ah thanks
misty sandal
Well... I've did some sims on embellishments last night after raid out of curiosity and... elemental focusing lens seems good, but that's just me testing out and experimenting for some things for tonight's raid... 
dim basalt
Ehat embellishment we going for in s2?
charred shoal
with my 2nd craft faq prio wrist slot over cloak, my current cloak is super bad and crafting cloak sims higher, why do we prio wrist or is it more of a case by case basis
broken arrow
Neat, I can manipulate Windsinger gem into giving me Crit or Haste by equiping rings in a different order. 
grand idol
with my 2nd craft faq prio wrist slot over cloak, my current cloak is super bad ...
In the long term that will be ideal bis crafts but it is important to keep paying attention. We will be swimming in sparks soon and it might be better to craft say, chest, if you have gotten especially unlucky rather than commit this spark to a long term investment for relatively little gain.
For instance, on my character, since I am losing a socket for my bracers, it's rough justifying making bracers over replacing my still champion legs with a craft for the greater stat budget legs have.
unreal jackal
hello, any one has the caps we are looking for as arms ? i see some top players crafting haste mastery though it should be crit haste ? wondering :=)
charred shoal
In the long term that will be *ideal* bis crafts but it is important to keep pay...
makes sense thank you
open ingot
People are running fury stats as arms
vital canopy
how come in the arms maxroll guide it says to get two of the 147crit/46haste gems in the neck, when our stat weight is way more into haste? Shouldnt it be the 147haste/46crit?
vital canopy
yeah was kinda thinking that
yeah have been simming, but im trying to decide if i should upgrade my current crafted haste/mastery 2h into a haste/crit for arms in raid, but I hear if we doing prog I should be fury
paper summit
"Once you get better weapons, double Duskthread Lining on wrist and cloak is best for both Arms and Fury." does this mean mythic track weapons?
gray herald
Well... I've did some sims on embellishments last night after raid out of curios...
it performs well on pure single target but double dawn/dusk is within a few tenths of a percent and far better in any multi target
gray herald
"Once you get better weapons, double Duskthread Lining on wrist and cloak is bes...
yes
slate schooner
yo is the 4p something i should keep track of? i feel like yes but i feel like my gameplay won'T change alot if i have the buff or not
gray herald
not really
to repeat what someone said earlier, if you track and pay attention to opportunist it kind of plays itself
slate schooner
like is there a number of stacks where overpower gets more important then mortal strike lol
slate schooner
to repeat what someone said earlier, if you track and pay attention to opportuni...
ho okok
wild gull
Is slam actually worth using as arms?
lean geode
Yes if you have nothing else to press
teal fossil
It does 2/3rds of a ms
potent cedar
I keep pressing cleave in single target
instead of slam
pain
how did I acquire this habit
minor gust
potent cedar
short spear
my loot drops got me at 32% crit, kinda need more haste but thats the loots
final dove
whats the rule of thumb with cleave - how many targets minimum to warrant a press
tacit crystal
3
tacit crystal
at 2 you press ss and do st rotation replacing slam with cleave unless you want to save mp
tacit crystal
😦
final dove
so 3? 😂
latent moss
y
hollow lagoon
do we spam cleave during sweaping strike or ms
prime prairie
How have people found Mister Lock-N-Stock for Arms for both raid and M+? Bloodmallet has it quite high for single target, but my sims say nah (H Mister Lock, H Seafourium, N House of Cards). It feels like it's difficult to quantitate in M+, seeing as you would be switching between the ST and AoE modes...
lean geode
How have people found Mister Lock-N-Stock for Arms for both raid and M+? Bloodma...
trust the sim
hollow lagoon
i mean do you use the overpower dmg increase on cleave or ms
lean geode
bloodmallet is just a single target sim run on someone else's character
stable fiber
where sudden death weakaura
lean geode
i mean do you use the overpower dmg increase on cleave or ms
cleave
lean geode
where sudden death weakaura
ctrl+f sd conditions
latent moss
do we spam cleave during sweaping strike or ms
how many targets
at 2 u just play st rota
stable fiber
ctrl+f sd conditions
ty
hollow lagoon
kk, just wasn't sure since sweeping strike says single target skills
olive nest
does anyone know how quickly ratfang stacks
latent moss
kk, just wasn't sure since sweeping strike says single target skills
you cleave over slam tho
olive nest
or can i just macro it to ava and forget about it
gentle frigate
Whats the macro to drop rav at my feet
hollow lagoon
#showtooltip
/cast [@player] Ravager
gentle frigate
#showtooltip
/cast [@player] Ravager
Thanks brother
latent moss
ms>op>cleave>slam
in execute its ms>op>exe>cleave>slam
hollow lagoon
i feel like i barely ever use execute in colo build
lean geode
in execute its ms>op>exe>cleave>slam
aint no way you cleave over slam
latent moss
actions.colossus_sweep+=/mortal_strike,if=buff.sweeping_strikes.up
actions.colossus_sweep+=/skullsplitter,if=buff.sweeping_strikes.up
actions.colossus_sweep+=/overpower,if=buff.sweeping_strikes.up
actions.colossus_sweep+=/demolish,if=buff.sweeping_strikes.up&debuff.colossus_smash.up
actions.colossus_sweep+=/execute,if=buff.sweeping_strikes.up
actions.colossus_sweep+=/overpower
actions.colossus_sweep+=/execute
actions.colossus_sweep+=/mortal_strike
actions.colossus_sweep+=/demolish,if=debuff.colossus_smash.up
actions.colossus_sweep+=/thunder_clap,if=dot.rend.remains<=8&buff.sweeping_strikes.down
actions.colossus_sweep+=/cleave,if=talent.fervor_of_battle
actions.colossus_sweep+=/rend,if=dot.rend.remains<=5
actions.colossus_sweep+=/whirlwind,if=talent.fervor_of_battle
actions.colossus_sweep+=/slam
hi why does wowa geek out when i stall out execute
latent moss
ye sweep
lean geode
hi why does wowa geek out when i stall out execute
link report
tacit crystal
ravager report
let me find bs one
wait
that was a bs one
let me find a ravager
latent moss
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/xf4Q2HjrRCpagzMZ/19/21
💔
this is cooked
high quality flask
its r2
pot r2 too
all enchants r2
tacit crystal
how am going to use rampage
latent moss
boot enchant
tacit crystal
latent moss
tmy
tacit crystal
@dull siren noob alert
latent moss
im getting flamed for not using defensives
how can i use defensives if i am playing fury
no point
tacit crystal
^^^^
lean geode
Tmy told me he ignores the APL in execute
tacit crystal
w
lean geode
Just blindly exe exe op ms
latent moss
also smoothens the rotation
tacit crystal
i press op
latent moss
(robot telling me to drop all crit for haste 💔 )
tacit crystal
then ms
latent moss
idk why i didnt upgrade my shit earlier
tacit crystal
also maybe im stupid
but like pressing op at max rage
in execute
i want to scream
quasi torrent
i am balls
latent moss
hi balls
tacit crystal
hi balls
quasi torrent
latent moss
no balls emote 🥀
tacit crystal
guys surely small nap wont cause me to miss raid
latent moss
latent moss
go to fury chat and ping xantage
tacit crystal
@gloomy summit hi add balls or grom will attack
quasi torrent
latent moss
xantage blue name... disaster of '24...
quasi torrent
xantager
quasi torrent
balls
latent moss
silver junkrat ow2...
tacit crystal
i lvoe calling pauck at 5 am
latent moss
orange weapon low dps...
inner mica
what ssimming better 665 best in slots or 675 claymore
tacit crystal
h8 junk players
how much does my ilvl go up if i replace my neck
quasi torrent
replace with what ilvl
latent moss
slayer arms...
tacit crystal
658
tacit crystal
woah
1.93333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
me when my mage is ahead of my warrior in ilvl
latent moss
bro has NOT seen tmy
tacit crystal
xddddddddddddddddddddddddd
tacit crystal
me when 1665 crit is 20%
strange perch
is arms bad at raid single target atm or am i messing up badly?
latent moss
u are messing up
strange perch
u are messing up
okay thats good and bad, is the wowhead guide like, 100% accuate on everything? it feels so so wrong atm
latent moss
his wrists kezan and hoc are not mythic?
wrists 1/8
tacit crystal
link a log
latent moss
myth
tacit crystal
xdd
tacit crystal
its good
strange perch
link a log
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/shuppy im not exactly sure how but this is the character..
gentle frigate
In AOE whats the opener?
strange perch
charge thunder warbreaker ms overpower if procced bladestorm
latent moss
(pure st fight)
tacit crystal
In AOE whats the opener?
charge cleave tc roar rav ava cs demo at 10
i mean also
you are dying every fight
strange perch
you are dying every fight
me?
halcyon breach
i am balls
strange perch
yeah, im kinda mad that im so low that makes me play evne worse.
latent moss
your talent tree looks very wrong
what you should be playing
youre missing quite a few very big talents
strange perch
i copied from wowhead.
latent moss
ye thats the biggest one
tacit crystal
CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwMmZGzYegZbWWWmZAAAAwgphZmtxMMjZYGbmZGMMDDAAAAAAAPwY2mZmBQGjttBWADYGmADsB
latent moss
i copied from wowhead.
quasi torrent
<:balls:1321137740468719646>
bednezhi
tacit crystal
change ravager
tacit crystal
@strange perch to bladestorm
strange perch
okay
trying new build lets see..
gonna put my life into this pull.
this is actuall so depressing 1.2m i dont think im wasting any globals, something is really wrong. ugh.
tacit crystal
link the log
strange perch
how do i do that
tacit crystal
when you lcick one of these
it gives options of times you killed
and parses for each
or did yuo guys wipe
gentle frigate
As arms whats the easiest way to start stacking in mythic plus before the pull
strange perch
we just wiped on mugzee
gentle frigate
I know there is the turnip but other than that
strange perch
but it should look about the same as the logs above, nothing was fundamentally different.
latent moss
idk i cba with prestacking
cringe
i just ms twice on opener
and hope it crits and exhil procs
gentle frigate
LOL ok
strange perch
also. sorry for the mega zug zug question
hitting the boss from the back is important right
latent moss
hitting the boss from the back is important right
boss cant parry from behind
you should hit it if its safe
quasi torrent
when you lcick one of these
what the frigg are those
latent moss
if not just hit it from the front
quasi torrent
where
tacit crystal
go to amirdrassil
tacit crystal
quasi torrent
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/80624315?zone=35 this is one of my worst tiers on warrior ?
(i didnt play it on prog)
andasimp built diff tho
1/1 100%
dire hinge
better than 1/1 0% 
strange perch
can any arms warrior link me their recount damage breakdown on a single target fight?
wary raft
holy recount
lean geode
i thought mine are bad
no 99 on mugzee water you doing anda
quasi torrent
no 99 on mugzee water you doing anda
bro
my guild isnt called washedup
for no rsn
?
im not the same player i was bfa-sl
lean geode
Guarantee you my guild is worse
lean geode
tacit crystal
chop his balls
lean geode
Me pre pull "I'm not going in goon cages, I'll lose frenzy stacks"
quasi torrent
i got
tacit crystal
so wowa doesnt yell at me
lean geode
so wowa doesnt yell at me
wowa doesn't want you to exe exe op ms
quasi torrent
b2b2b2
lean geode
wowa wants you to follow APL
quasi torrent
never seen before
tacit crystal
yeah fuck that
lean geode
I need to copypaste the thing from the shaman wowa
Where it says "this is a tool and you can go against its recommendations if you have a specific reason to do so"
exe exe op ms is a reason to do so imo
quasi torrent
mental dogshit jugg tonoit
lean geode
Why arms when you could fury
quasi torrent
cause i gotta play arms on 2 fights that im about to prog on mythic?
ngl both specs are fucking balls rn
mr cocknballs
hope they just gut the bosses i havent killed next reset
so tier ends and i can just quit
game is just very bad rn
lean geode
cause i gotta play arms on 2 fights that im about to prog on mythic?
col OAB angle?
madox is big on thane for that fight
quasi torrent
ye im playing col on there
lean geode
I think his raid has shite add dam tho
quasi torrent
think madussy is trolling
quasi torrent
i trust some guy will pad on them
if not we will just not get past unless i dont get fixated
))))
my gear is so balls
only 1 mythic tier piece
and its GLOVES
lean geode
quasi torrent
(sorry its 2, shoulders aswell)
quasi torrent
idk man
i gotta look for jobbus
i have a funny graduation paper now
but im lazy
lean geode
phd man?
lean geode
you're UK frog right
quasi torrent
germany
quasi torrent
idfk how UK uni works
lean geode
Don't know shit about german education except grundschule and gymnasium
And one of my friends went to college for like 200 euro a semester
lean geode
He's american
quasi torrent
and 270 of that was for my public transport ticket
lean geode
Was denied financial aid from an out of state uni that would've been like 20k a semester
Said fuck that and paid literally 1% of that to go to munich
quasi torrent
but most of europe uses bachelors/masters system anyway
TUM?
i was thinking of doing more studies there but i despaired writing papers
so i stopped nstead :3
quasi torrent
theres LMU and TUM
lean geode
if you want to move to texas lmk, we're hiring 🙂
quasi torrent
id prefer not to 👍
lean geode
Same
quasi torrent
CS in america be like: 2 days of vacation
lean geode
I don't live in texas but we're only hiring there
quasi torrent
CS in germany b e like: 30 days of vacation
quasi torrent
honestly dont know what i wanna do
id prefer to do some scientific computing shit
but in the area where i live its all biochem stuff
and im fucking noober
just number crunching dogshit is right up my alley
halcyon breach
halcyon breach
Sidetrack
quasi torrent
Sidetrack
i pulled more on varesa banner
i got c2 iansan without losing to 5*
)))
halcyon breach
lets go gambling
I've done none
Because I really cannot afford to give up guarantee
That would be very irresponsible
quasi torrent
yeah u can not
halcyon breach
same
quasi torrent
halcyon breach
cheater
quasi torrent
reminder of my 10x loss
lean geode
I mean the idea of a katamari damacy boss kinda owns
In practice it's utter dogshit though
Also the idea of a raid fight in a landfill is kinda sus
nova marsh
Dude this fight is just....why
quasi torrent
stix as a gimmick boss that is freelo
wouldve been fine
stix as a boss that has a relevant level of difficulty
is not fine
tacit crystal
Stix is pure garbage literally
bro
we pulled up to raid oneshot stix
i was in the wrong spec
zz
minor gust
yall really one shot stix?
nova marsh
Stix just feels like blizz decided "hey let's throw the kitchen sink at them for the fourth boss