#arms

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maiden pulsar
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Does arms typically have a pretty high skill ceiling despite being slower than fury?

hexed snow
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I think details?

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I saw details had a timeline

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And showed ability plus targeted

olive night
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Yep my spell reflect says it in chat and people still do, no ones paying attention to the chat while in combat

dim basalt
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Fury is really fast but yet one of the easiest specs in the game

maiden pulsar
dim basalt
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But arms skill ceiling isnt really high, Id say average

halcyon breach
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This season if you want to play either spec 100% optimally, Fury has more conditionals that could be messed up compared to Arms

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But neither spec is particularly difficult to play to at least a 90% potential (arbitrary number)

dim basalt
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SD weakaura makes both specs a lot easier

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lunar remnant
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Would you guys say sprocket (heroic) is a arms or fury fight

smoky kayak
smoky kayak
dim basalt
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Hunters have always been rather easy, though SV is kind of an outlier

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Not that SV is overly hard or anything

dim basalt
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The only spec I would call hard because of APM is outlaw personally

smoky kayak
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I think, more than anything, APM exists as a barrier between types of players

  • For us button mashers, it's considered pretty easy, even boring at times
  • For the more casual crowd, Fury's pace of gameplay has long been considered difficult to keep up with (leading to failed experiments like Annihilator and more successful ones like Powerful Enrage)
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once you cross that barrier though, it kind of stops becoming a factor

violet steeple
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Basically zero specs in this game are hard lol

dim basalt
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Hmm, would be interesting to know which spec is where the barrier stats for the average player

violet steeple
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Outlaw is probably the most convoluted to play on top of the APM

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But blizz has done a good job of creating very flowy specs everywhere, once you spend an hour or 2 with them they're comfortable

dim basalt
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Except Arms critcake

violet steeple
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Arms is very easy in ST, and in AOE it still flows very well

dim basalt
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I dont think it flows that well

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Its not horrible, but just not as flowy as some other specs

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The entire modifier on top of a modifier on top of a modifier situation just makes it weird

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And arguably a bit harder to get into

shadow ibex
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Yea I don't think arms has any real flow. Just reacting to eb or opp depending on slayer or col

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Cleave does dam. Not building it up to a big hit or a something

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Just press it on cd

short spear
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Arms has a nice aoe flow although I liked it more on DF. It’s single target to me has always felt awkward except I liked it in MoP

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But I played PvP in mop mostly so maybe it was annoying in pve at the time

dim basalt
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I was mostly talking about Cleave yeah

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With S2 its not as bad for MS

shadow ibex
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We have the same amount as last season

slow saddle
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I think demo is good in key esp aoe flow wise

shadow ibex
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4pc for s1 and s2 was a ms boost

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And 2pc for both a OP modifier

slow saddle
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Slayer is arkward

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But thats just juggernaut stacks and bladestorm

shadow ibex
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MP got weaker otherwise same amount of modifiers as usual

slow saddle
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I dislike that tbh. But thats just me

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Juggernaut should be deleted adds only frustration

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Its not like i feel good when i hit 15 stacks into exe. I feel lucky

floral dock
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hey guys, can you suggest any good arms guide on youtube ?

shadow ibex
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Colossus finally drops shitty EP so I guess that's one less ms buff

unkempt wren
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Jugg feels like it should be fun to stack, it never really is 😦

slow saddle
unkempt wren
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EP is controlled, so it feels good

slow saddle
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If it never was possible it would feel betyrt

shadow ibex
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Ep as m+ colossus is just throwing a talent point into the toilet

slow saddle
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Yup

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Let exe give demo stacks agsin!!

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Then we cookim

unkempt wren
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True, but when you are using it for a build there is control vs jugg. So it feels good to use

slow saddle
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Juggernaut feels like shit. Slayer feels like shit as arms vs fury

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Now dmg is good

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But that bladestorm...

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Entire spec stinks of fury

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Now as fury slayer is awesome

deft osprey
slow saddle
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Crafted weap myself

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I never get weap in,vault

shadow ibex
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I guess it's one of the few specs you can fuck up. If you just spend rage mashing buttons and aren't aware of ms every 4th

olive nest
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I think it’s because of how much you have to react to procs rather than memorize a basic rotation

rich ridge
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Should I wait for 2 stacks of execute and 2 stacks of overpower before I Ms during execute phase?

slow saddle
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No

shadow ibex
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Do you think people are even aware of that? The focus on reacting. I'd assume average player wouldn't carry about opportunist for ex

olive nest
slow saddle
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At 2 ep u send ms

shadow ibex
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Depends

slow saddle
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But realisticly it wont be up

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So op

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And ye depends on op stacks // rage

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Sd procs makes us just send ms if rdy no?

shadow ibex
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You can do MS into opp proc so you prio OP into exe proc another OP that you send and another exe cast would have you delay MS by 1 global but p sure that's optimal

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It's just weird

olive nest
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MS > opportunist > exe > opportunist > exe > MS
Or
MS > exe > opportunist > exe > MS
Or
MS > exe > exe > opportunist > MS

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Just some examples

slow saddle
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Ye

olive nest
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It’s all about the prio

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Memorize the prio and react based on procs

slow saddle
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All about the base

ebon fern
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Is mortal strike actually mortal?

amber nova
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new to playing arms - may be a dumb q because warbreaker reads "increasing all damage you deal to them by 30%". just want to be sure -does this mean i want to send damage trinket + demolish AFTER WB?

minor gust
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would recommend checking out any of the guides in DPS FAQ

astral yarrow
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Guide doesnt necessarily explain why it would matter or not

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but yes, warbreaker increases YOUR damage by 30%, but damage effects that are not from your class arent increased

amber nova
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rotation guide does put demolish after wb so that tracks

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so razdunk's (as an example) doesn't get the increased 30%?

astral yarrow
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no

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avatar doesnt increase it either

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warrior and rogue abused that back in legion, so now those sorts of interactions are gone

amber nova
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gotcha

minor gust
amber nova
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so razdunk's basically needs to go before regular opener since it takes 3s to land

naive sage
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In fact, specs which are based on versa, like ww havoc rogue benefit the most from trinkets iirc

scenic fjord
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In m+ as Colossus, am I pressing Demolish whenever it's off CD, or am I always waiting for 10 stacks of CM?

minor gust
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in aoe wait for 10 stacks in ST just send it. In aoe you can send early tho if mobs are about to die before you get 10 stacks or CS is about to fall off

halcyon breach
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wuff wuff

mint patio
swift crown
shadow ibex
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im trialing on rik tn

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i really just gotta slam fury huh?

halcyon breach
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Have to? no. Is it better? Definitely if you need add damage

olive nest
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I played fury becausey guild couldn’t do the damn pyros without it

sacred zodiac
olive nest
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And they wanted me to run around as arms and hit all of the pyros

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It was dogshit so I just made my own choice to play fury

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If they don’t need add damage specifically then arms pipes!

sacred zodiac
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rik reverberation

olive nest
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Im definitely committing arms on rekill ,somebody else can be the add bitch so I can play the superior spec

swift crown
errant bough
errant bough
strange perch
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yo quick question im still trying to figure this arms spec out. What is a decent overall on a 10-12+ keys?

thick kelp
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3.5mil to 4.6mil depending on key

strange perch
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damn i suck keksquad

rich ridge
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It depends on how the tank is pulling?

olive nest
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Yes you won’t do 4.5m in a cinder if tank doesn’t pull 4 packs at a time

knotty orchid
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depends on the tank and if other DPS are doing their jobs as well

olive nest
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Or like priory if the tank isn’t adding packs to the mini bosses you’re overall won’t be 4.5m

bleak fog
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Can you check up if you done a map in delves or not this week? Can't remeber if I done it or not ><

olive nest
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Overall is highly dependent on tanks pulls

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Just yapping random made up examples

glossy tusk
bleak fog
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TY! 🙂

rose matrix
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If you're in execute phase and you have 2 stacks EP but Mortal Strike is on cd do you just send a 3rd execute or an op?

quasi torrent
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depends

sturdy hearth
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depends if you have rage or not, if it's a tactician proc or not

halcyon valve
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Tactician at high tier set stacks owns wicked

boreal remnant
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is arms preferred for bandit prog?

shadow ibex
halcyon valve
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yeah its a bit silly

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but in a fun way

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somehow

minor gust
boreal remnant
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ig more 2t burst on adds

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warrior seems irrelevant anyways so more add burst than fury or smth shrug

stable fiber
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you can 2 target cleave the little adds, + its a lust in execute boss

boreal remnant
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fair

shadow ibex
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buff BS

minor gust
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your gonna wanna swap to adds

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and fury cant do that

stable fiber
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you play arms to do damage to boss + the prio adds

you play fury to pad on the bomb spawns

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pick what you think is more important, personally i think damage to boss + prio adds

stable fiber
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arms is pretty good at hitting bosses (one armed bandit heroic, boss damage only)

stable fiber
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the ethical spec

minor gust
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people have been saying mythic is just the adds and execute doesnt really matter

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thats why weve seen some colossus on Bandit

sacred zodiac
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idk i think its p much just colossus

minor gust
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Walhe is playing slarms

limber hill
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hi guys is there an arms warrior weakaura that tracks sudden death conditions and tells me when to press it ?
i have one for fury but it doesnt work in arms spec

sacred zodiac
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oh theres like one slayer

boreal remnant
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I can already tell this boss is going to be annoying

minor gust
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atleast my tanks arent playing prot so I wont be sat

stable fiber
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it depends on raid comp

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tbh

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if you have 3 shadow priests, a boomkin and a warlock you probably dont need to play colossus

minor gust
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more than likely yes this will change aswell the more buffs we get

boreal remnant
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ye we've got 1 sp, 1 boomie, 2 afflis

stable fiber
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yeah you dont need to worry about the adds most likely

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just play slayer and sweep + hit boss

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fire mages also very ethical spec on bandit

modest spruce
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@thick kelp it really was me not positioning correctly with it lol

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old one for comparison

rose matrix
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When you remove a point from ep do you just ignore mortal strike in execute?

slow saddle
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What

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Opposite

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U ignore exe?

swift flame
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Exe only prio over slam with no ep

broken arrow
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tbh kinda need some more context for this

minor gust
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well you dont ignore exe

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exe just replaces slam

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but exe replaces slam with or without EP doesnt matter for colossus

rose matrix
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Gotcha. I have only recently started out playing Arms for certain keys and saw people switching out EP and FB for 2 points on Bloodborne

minor gust
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yup doesnt change a thing gameplay wise

rose matrix
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I prefer it that way to be honest. Execute phase in Slayer st is fun but I don't really like the way it felt on col in m+

charred brook
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I just DOGWALKED this priory

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monk buff op!!!!

hexed snow
charred brook
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DO NOT GOON!!!

hexed snow
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Ghost of the Goon spotted in Sudan

charred brook
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🔔

proper arch
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got energy drink 665, pacemaker 665 and funhouse 658, they sim pretty close, energy + funhouse ahead in ST. What trinket combo would you guys prio for m+ content

fathom shoal
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I like lens and pace in m+

dim basalt
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Probably pace + lens

proper arch
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I was suprised that energy simmed the highest of all 3

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but my head would say the same as you guys, pace + lens

mint patio
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I have funhouse + mechano right now, simd higher then pacemaker or me

strange perch
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question - on opener packs i see ppl blasting, while i wait for my colossul stacks before sending demolish. do i always w8 for 10 stacks before sending or can i send after warbreaker and not aim for 10 stacks everythime?

latent moss
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as long as its in the cs debuff window wait for 10 stacks

shadow ibex
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You should be hitting 10 stacks fast with sweeping and ravager

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And just using abilities

lavish jay
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Should I craft a 675 wpn if I got a hero track weapon from a delve? Not sure if it's worth the 10 ilvls

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I only do M+

reef glade
eager sigil
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but yea probably

lavish jay
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Yeah I am going to, but I wont have any myth spots on this char and no heroic raid

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Don't think much will change after reset

eager sigil
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yea then just craft

onyx jetty
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On what pack size do you prio cleave over mortal strike?

shadow ibex
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3 p sure

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but they both have a CD

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youre gonna be using both

grand idol
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Yea, there is not really a reason to choose other than if you think using MS on a higher hp target will help speed the key up more than cleaving down things that will die anyway.

sullen blade
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I'm getting gapped on dmg like crazy in M+10, how tf can I keep up?? Can't plan any pulls or cd's in these pugs the tanks just gogo and have to try to play around random BL timings too deadge

sacred zodiac
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idk press cleave your cds kind of are short enough to not need pulling around

chilly coyote
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just slam everything all the time

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cds are almost always up anyways

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warriorbrain <---

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no think

strange perch
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do you go for OP, Cleave or if 2 up u go OP, OP , CLeave?

crude bridge
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is it normal to not have 100% uptime on juggernuat in the slayer single target raid build?

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at least not during execute phase

eager sigil
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during execute you have 100%

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before its a gamba

crude bridge
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ive been playing both arms and spriest, is it fairly common for arms to not do as much damage in ST as spriest or am i doing some thing wrong?

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they are both around equal in ilvl

dim basalt
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Shadow blasts pretty hard this season

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Arms is alright before execute but then starts pumping

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But on some fights you wont get close to a good shadow

crude bridge
dim basalt
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Our shadows are usually top 5

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On any fight that has adds

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One of them pulled 2.8M on heroic mugzee lmao

crude bridge
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might be a dumb question, but can 4-5 ilvls be that big of a difference in damage? my arms is 4-5 ilvls below my spriest

sacred zodiac
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i mean ye and nah

naive breach
sacred zodiac
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depends if your jewelry and trinkets are bangers/not bangers and if u have high value slots at high ilvl

shadow ibex
naive breach
crude bridge
shadow ibex
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training dummy wont be the best measure of dps

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mostly there to get familiar with the buttons imo

latent moss
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u are overthinkig it

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on aoe that is

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on st its ms>op>execute <20% hp>slam

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for aoe if u can cleave u cleave

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if u cant cleave but can ms u ms

random spoke
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okay super noob question, are you guys keeping jugg up before a boss is below 35%?

grand idol
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if rng allows.

quasi torrent
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but its just

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rng dogshit

shadow ibex
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REMOVE JUGG

grizzled estuary
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hey guys, just went from not playing war since BFA to top 3 parse on first myth boss, is it irrelevant (pepega roster leading to lucky timers) or im just too goated for the game pls? (jk) idm sharing logs if needed

random spoke
quasi torrent
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bro posting re4 gif

shadow ibex
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anda did you know

quasi torrent
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thats from the manor defense thing

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isnt it

shadow ibex
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dead space 2 is better than re4

quasi torrent
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with luis

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hmm

shadow ibex
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ill die on this hill

quasi torrent
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i actually never played the dead space series

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maybe i should

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remake is pretty good aswell innit

shadow ibex
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single handedly saved horror for western devs in the 00s

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yea

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b4 dead space it was all re

quasi torrent
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i finally played RE4R very recently

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pretty good and kinda what i remember from ages ago on the ps2 ngl

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oh dead space remake 75% off

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guess i purchase

shadow ibex
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its really good

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i think the thing is the best movie ever tho

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cuz it is

grizzled estuary
naive sage
soft ridge
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You did no mechanics and tunnelled your little warrior heart out. everyone carried you. You are the greatest.

naive sage
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You want praise?

grizzled estuary
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like no wtf

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"not trying to flex but genuinely wondering why i ended up that high as i know i could improve on several areas"
im trying to understand why im top3 while i scuffed alot of the rotation
ofc not playing the mechanics helpd and this was agreed and call upon RL lmao

soft ridge
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Maybe the armour broke at a nice execute phase ? That can help

charred shoal
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whats the highest mortal strike and demo crits u guys got

grizzled estuary
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so im thinking about cd alignments, fight duration, and stuff like that
but i cant understand it by myself hence asking
tldr i think its not deserved and trying to understand how stars aligned

charred shoal
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i hit a 16 mill MS crit

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just now

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😮

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i love big number

grizzled estuary
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and/or that ranking first week into the patch shall be looked with caution and mb not representative of performance (like first guy is 3 ilvl below me and 2 weeks prior)

grizzled estuary
charred shoal
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is there any class that can do a bigger single hit than arms?

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i heard chaos bolt is weak rn

grizzled estuary
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really not sure tho (about the 18 mil)

charred shoal
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18mill with MS?

river ridge
charred shoal
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nice

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zug zug

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w

quasi torrent
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sounds very achievable

latent moss
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or 23

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i dont remember

fair siren
latent moss
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but arms does its hardest hitter (excluding cd cleave) pretty often

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technically we dont cause we generally dont stack both ep and mp

stoic ocean
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they havnt created an item that upgrades an items track have they?

shadow ibex
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no

misty bridge
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Not yet

olive nest
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Would be cool to get like 2-3 of those in a season

shadow ibex
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yea

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esp with hero locked delve stuff

olive nest
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Or maybe not have limit but make it a worthy grind

shadow ibex
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probably just something to buy with crest imo

olive nest
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That too ye

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1.5 weeks worth of runed lets you upgrade one item from hero to myth or something like that

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Or 2 weeks worth maybe you’d want it to be a high cost

stoic ocean
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I eould have it use like 3 catalysts

shadow ibex
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i guess probably gotta only be usable on dungeon loot

stoic ocean
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that way people would have to wait

shadow ibex
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cuz otherwise u can get mythic raid trinkets

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from last boss

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i think dung/delve loot only would be fine

olive nest
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That’s fair yeah retain the raid loot value

shadow ibex
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heroic raid trinkets are usually good enough

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at heroic ilvl vs mythic dung counterparts

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just make it cost crests and ur good tho yea

charred shoal
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we get catalyst this week right?

stoic ocean
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every two weeks

rugged notch
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GUys

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Is there a link to a guide or something regarding rotation?

rugged notch
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ty

wintry arch
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Can I just play ravager slayer? It feels a lot better to me

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Sims are kinda close. Anyone notice in raid if it’s a lot worse?

lean geode
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It's worse overall

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It's ONLY better for execute phase dps

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Which mostly doesn't matter outside of mythic mugzee

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That said, if you're willing to lose a bit of overall dps, you can play it

wintry arch
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Oh interesting

lean geode
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Also note that there was a simc bug with ravager

wintry arch
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I guess I’ll cross that bridge when we get to mugzee

lean geode
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Re-sim your guy if you haven't

wintry arch
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Will do thanks

lean geode
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Rav is probably simming lower now than it was a couple weeks ago

wintry arch
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Gotcha that sucks to hear

lean geode
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I believe these are Walhe simming his guy after the simc fix

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First is 7m overall (mythic mugzee), second is 2m execute range

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Personally I wouldn't lose sleep over -0.6% if you're not in a hall of fame guild

wintry arch
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I am not. But I guess I should try and continue getting used to bladestorm

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I wish there was a petition or something I could sign to delete bladestorm and slayer

lean geode
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Give arms fury's BS

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4s base duration

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Instead of the 6 it currently is

tacit crystal
lean geode
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No clue

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I don't know how simc works, Arma fixed it and he's way smarter than I am

tacit crystal
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gg

lean geode
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Looks like it's actually a colossus MS thing, not a rav slayer thing

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So I'm just yapping chatting

tacit crystal
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gg

lean geode
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It was the bugfix for sweep MS CM stacks

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Hadn't made it to simc I guess

tacit crystal
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we love ms cm ss bug

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:3

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me when i hit a crit ms with ss

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4 cm in 1

lean geode
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sweep MS still can give 4 stacks

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But unhinged MS doesn't sweep

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It used to still give CM stacks as if it swept

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But blizzard fixed that

tacit crystal
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when blizzard removed unhinged cleaving they killed fun

lean geode
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I mean I think it's a fine change assuming we're tuned around it

tacit crystal
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except that didnt happen

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fury was killed

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and arms got shot for furys sins

lean geode
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Unhinged was the least of the things fury got shot for tbf

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Actually it kind of fucked reap on brood

tacit crystal
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it was fun

short spear
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I feel like I’m imagining things but I remember mortal strike and execute swinging sideways when ss was active but I feel like it’s not happening for me since I started playing arms again.

errant goblet
short spear
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man thats like my favorite part of sweeping strike

errant goblet
short spear
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it literally threw me off the first few keys i did when i didnt hear the sound change and ssee the side swing happen. made me think i didnt press ss

errant goblet
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tbf they broke a LOT of things with that patch the ss animation was probably one of them and no one complains or talks about for some reason

short spear
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well i am not happy about it. hopefully it doesnt get the monk treatment and is ignored for years

errant goblet
icy mulch
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They changed animations besides the Warbreaker one and just nozzed it all up.

errant goblet
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i dont remember seeing that in the patch notes

short spear
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so you think they downgraded all animations when they downgraded warbreaker?

errant goblet
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they changed warbreaker this season the ss changes were unannounced .5 last season changes

icy mulch
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I think they downgraded a decent amount

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I'd love to see a glyph to make execute into condemn. I miss that wonderous sound.

short spear
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idk, if they didnt say anything about removing the animation, ill assume it an accident

errant goblet
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id love a glyph to make execute be its original animation

icy mulch
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The old school vanilla?

errant goblet
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yea

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they also changed leap when the ss animation changes happened too

short spear
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im pretty sure you can get an addon that will change execute into the condemn sound all the time

errant goblet
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also execute didnt change until SL dont call it old school vanilla your mking me feel old...

short spear
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i honestly dont remember the physical animation of pre SL execute

shadow ibex
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was like OP

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it was like that in DF as well without mass

short spear
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i thought that mightve been the case but i couldnt remember

shadow ibex
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just we played mass so much

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so probably never saw it

short spear
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i prefer the sideways execute

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sweeping across

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oh

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for some reason you only get the side swing execute if you talent massacre

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but that doesnt explain where the sideswing mortal strike went

shadow ibex
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i dont think any of it is intentional tbh

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mass and regular exe but sweeping animations going away i doubt

unique cypress
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is colo or slayer better for mythic +?

shadow ibex
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colo

unique cypress
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ty

neat snow
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how cooked am i if wanna try arms with full fury gear in m+?

unique cypress
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not very cooked

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critcake gets away with it and he does 15+

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arms likes having haste too just the swap from mastery to crit is the only thing that sucks

icy mulch
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Mastery isn't a bad stat, it gives a damage boost against anything with deep wounds on em.

austere hedge
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do you still sweeping strikes before ravager?

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ive never played arms before but the chat history makes it sound like there was a bug that made ss buff ravager

mellow frigate
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Do arms and prot have good m+ stat overlap?

heady shale
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Prot has haste-crit, arms has crit-haste, so kinda yeah

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Just get a 2h on your prot gear and start smashing

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And farm trinkets

mellow frigate
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Oh sick. Tomorrow's the third spark isn't it?

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Because of the extra

radiant lion
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correct

mellow frigate
#

Well, guess I know which alt is getting the warbound funhouse then

molten mauve
#

@daring heron ya critcake you are beast i saw your video with ghingi and the big boyz , will you accept their offer and raid with Revvez one day with them , that will be the dream instead of this no name warrior they added 2 weeks ago name'd Wallifexd

mellow frigate
#

I didn't realize arms was blasting so much, I only ever see fury.

dire hinge
#

Fury is usually tankier and they perform similarly

#

it's a safer pick for prog most of the time (more HP, self-sustain), provides better add damage, but arms can pump

molten mauve
tacit crystal
molten mauve
austere hedge
#

all i know is fury has like 8 procs to track and arms only has 1

#

way too punishing to play fury rn

#

tho it slaps single target

reef glade
tacit crystal
shadow ibex
#

the bees knees

#

(plz drop a 90 sec)

manic stirrup
#

jk i think most i’ve done is like 3.6

#

still need to craft an embelly and get a myth 1h

rich ridge
#

How come blizz didn’t buff us

manic stirrup
#

because arms is good

#

hope this helps 👍

rich ridge
#

Hunters got buffed and they already good

tacit crystal
tacit crystal
thick kelp
tacit crystal
thick kelp
tacit crystal
#

be me doing tank damage as mage okayge

thick kelp
#

what about mage damage as tank

tacit crystal
#

not hard to do

#

i was just only pressing pyroblast while ish and a boomie padded

#

like gg

halcyon breach
astral yarrow
tacit crystal
astral yarrow
#

👋

lyric pier
#

What is better mythic weapom from dg or heroic best slot weapom ?

brittle fiber
tacit crystal
#

pretty sure m weapon but ask robot for your specific case

smoky berry
#

or mby it was 20 idk got both first week./vault still bigg diff

devout knot
#

can someone show their damage breakdown in keys?

tacit crystal
#

cleave/demolish/ms roar op wounds rend slam

#

in that order

cloud dawn
tacit crystal
modest salmon
visual fern
tacit crystal
#

if i open a random log it will be that

tacit crystal
visual fern
#

I said smart man not good at the game

#

Blast weakaura next to execute is desaturated if clap on CD and the yellow border outline tracks clap CD

lyric pier
#

thx guys

tacit crystal
#

not far off

#

lol

tacit crystal
visual fern
#

Define "not clutter my screen fi I have a buff"

tacit crystal
#

uh

#

it just puts something like execute when in execute range but i dont want to see it if i have a buff

#

prob just go to conditions if trigger 1 true (have buff) display nothing else display execute

visual fern
#

Yah can prob do in morning if you don't figure it out

#

Send me dm

cloud dawn
tacit crystal
#

yeah eep time soon

cloud dawn
#

My most played this season is motherload and top and theres way more MS then demolish dmg

halcyon breach
visual fern
#

I put that there first then had the 🧠 moment

#

TC CD doesn't really matter for anything other than tracking blast castability and WW (for fury)

#

And WW stacks manage clap CD in itsel;f

thick kelp
#

and for arms tc cd is low prio

#

bottom bar stuff

#

ez

tacit crystal
#

me when i dont track tc

#

i just fucking rend and tc anywyas

#

idc

visual fern
#

Load > Arms only

visual fern
halcyon breach
tacit crystal
#

bring back of cd from bt crit

visual fern
#

W/ gallywix tier bonus too

#

Holy

reef glade
tacit crystal
vale gorge
deep moth
icy mulch
#

Blade storm needs a pve buff, ravager to actually.

tacit crystal
icy mulch
#

Hah, I'm covering a duty shift. I've been awake for over 24 hrs now.

tacit crystal
#

surely break soon

icy mulch
#

My relief shows up at 8am, then I go home and crash till work time Wednesday.

tacit crystal
#

8 am as in 3 hours and 20 minutes

deep moth
#

I'm glad you only put out that take when you're delulu

#

because that's definitely what that take was

#

lmao

icy mulch
#

At least I'm not in a field unit anymore. I've gone days without sleep.

deep moth
#

that's why I'll never get in army

#

sure the money's nice

#

but the fact that I gotta do shit like that

icy mulch
#

Bladestorm and Ravager do crappy damage though, they could use a buff. What's delulu about that?

deep moth
#

eh ravager is only for resource gen

#

imo

#

and bladestorm isn't really that great outside of aoe but it's pretty good in aoe already

icy mulch
#

Even in AoE it's not very good. It's carried pretty heavily by unhinged.

#

Now if it was uncapped... different story.

deep moth
#

an uncapped aoe buff would go hard

#

I'll agree with you on that

#

but also isnt that the whole point of unhinged

#

or am I stupid

tacit crystal
#

unhinged doesnt do aoe

deep moth
#

no I meant like it's supposed to go with bs

icy mulch
#

Unhinged is suppose to make it better in ST. In truth though it just better all around.

icy mulch
balmy kindle
balmy kindle
#

NGL as a teenager I wished I could join the marines copium

Conscription service sucks balls, you hardly have any range time

eager sigil
#

currently

balmy kindle
#

Yeah good for them, don't wish it on anyone. 32 here and still have reservist deadge fuck me for being fit and healthy yes ?

icy mulch
#

I enlisted, 13 years in.

balmy kindle
#

Well tough on ya but hope you got paid

#

It's 2 years conscription and 10 years reservist in Singapore here

icy mulch
#

Worst part, I was 16 yrs law enforcement before the military keks
Da fuq is wrong wif me.

balmy kindle
#

Nothing wrong lmao, uniform services are legit jobs

#

Beats being paid a pittance as a conscript sadge

molten mauve
# reef glade mmmmnyessssdemolishhh

keep pragging keep ya anime narcissist wannabe solo warrior in the guild , you don't even have recent past prodcast in your twitch channel , the last one when you beated queen mythic or heroic and you put some demon hunter anime wannabe dps , just grow up ya sword grow up

quasi torrent
#

true

strange perch
#

why is the pandaren racial so bad? i play one but think im gonna change 😭

quasi torrent
#

racials are far less important than u probably think

south beacon
#

hey guys new to arms , do you wait for collosus might to get to 10 stacks generally before using demolish

halcyon breach
#

In AoE particularly yes, though if you see you wont get to 10 stacks before your colossus smash debuff runs out, you send it

south beacon
#

thank you sir

hexed snow
#

One armed bandit mythic... What do we say boys

quasi torrent
#

it is very quick to get to 10 across cleave, unhinged and manual sweep ms

quasi torrent
thick kelp
hexed snow
#

Slayer it is

quasi torrent
#

Oh god don't do that to urself

thick kelp
#

wym anda

#

I play slarms on the boss

hexed snow
#

I loveeee single targeting bosses

#

I was basically made for that

#

Like Arcane mage on Diurna

quasi torrent
#

Yeah except that doesn't actually matter

thick kelp
#

boss is hopefully getting nerfed today anyway

hexed snow
#

Sorry, Dathea°

halcyon breach
quasi torrent
#

adds are what kills the boss until they change it

thick kelp
#

Just have 3 shadow priests and 2 affli locks

#

suddenly adds arent real

quasi torrent
thick kelp
#

playing as a warrior i feel so uselss omE

quasi torrent
#

idk add hp needs to be bonked

#

watch them remove coin mech

#

lol

#

no more rolling into the men

thick kelp
#

would be bad nerf

halcyon breach
#

Unironically would cut off quite a few wipes

thick kelp
#

if they remove coin tech

latent moss
#

wait next raid

thick kelp
#

Saves few pulls early but after that doesnt do shit

latent moss
#

Last 3 bosses

halcyon breach
#

Removes having people die to a coin they don't see, or people missing coins

latent moss
#

jailer prenerf

#

sepulcher 2.0

halcyon breach
#

Also makes one bad bait not nearly as bad as it could've been

thick kelp
#

and not just

#

a small chunk

halcyon breach
#

eh maybe

#

I think there's enough visual clutter on the fight as is

quasi torrent
#

there is good and bad visual tho

#

lines would b good

halcyon breach
#

I somehow don't trust Blizzard with making good line visuals

vapid pine
#

Just make them grippable and move on dont@me

#

Spread cleave niche is cringe and limits comps so hard

halcyon breach
#

Why would they need to be grippable

vapid pine
halcyon breach
#

Yes of course I know the adds

thick kelp
#

should be much much darker

molten mauve
vapid pine
hexed snow
#

I don't think adds should be grippable

#

More time or health reduce

#

Or both on adds

halcyon breach
#

I don't think grips solves the issues the fight has

vapid pine
#

So comps don't look like this

hexed snow
#

Looks ok to me

quasi torrent
molten mauve
halcyon breach
vapid pine
daring heron
#

Benzai what spec have you been progging oam as

halcyon breach
#

I want to leap over to boss to deposit my token, oops there's a swirlie through the boss I lept into I guess I'll just die

vapid pine
halcyon breach
#

Thane works but only if you desperately need bomb damage

#

Otherwise it's awful imo

daring heron
#

Aha

halcyon breach
#

You can't reliably do good Reel damage because hard swapping to them is just detrimental as Fury

vapid pine
halcyon breach
#

And resetting your Frenzy stacks multiples times a fight is not it

halcyon breach
molten mauve
quasi torrent
daring heron
#

Bombs were lasting forever yesterday but we only had 2 hours of prog

halcyon breach
#

We lust bombs but we might move it to execute now

#

After we get more gear

quasi torrent
thick kelp
halcyon breach
#

Though after people got more consistent and comfortable with the fight, we kinda kill the bombs a lot better

daring heron
#

Was thinking maybe I can pick up cleave to help with bomba but that feels like inting also

halcyon breach
#

More people reliably getting the damage buff and not panicking as much if they get fixated as melee

vapid pine
thick kelp
daring heron
#

ye exactly

quasi torrent
#

real real

thick kelp
#

you either demolish the bombs or bladestorm the bombs

#

depending on which spec you play

latent moss
#

dance of death

#

bladestorm

quasi torrent
#

would be good if EB didn't exist i think

hexed snow
#

So... See you guys at the shadow priest cord?

thick kelp
#

BS does get to do a respectable chunk of dmg to bombs

daring heron
#

i wish demo wasn't so small

thick kelp
#

But assistant dmg is where slayer falls short on

#

compared to demo

hexed snow
quasi torrent
daring heron
#

how many demos have you had cancelled so far on oam

halcyon breach
#

After having done quite a few pulls now, I've gotten used to cleaving Demo's AoE on the bombs and the boss at the same time

#

Even if fixated

daring heron
#

i managed 2 in 1 pull yesterday

halcyon breach
#

I've also just greeded all my Demo casts

#

And only had one be hard cancelled because of boss movement

swift crown
daring heron
#

i keep trying to maintarget boss with demo but then he sprints off and it's gonezo

halcyon breach
#

Yeah it's just a tank movement angle you gotta get used to, if they keep it consistent

daring heron
#

but maybe being awake will help cause i was half asleep yesterday tbh

halcyon breach
#

I do just full main target Reel assistants with Demo

#

And bombs I send it on boss

daring heron
#

are you team blord or jugg

halcyon breach
#

With our movement, the boss tends to be in the middle of the bombs for a while

#

So I can cleave the Demo AoE on them reliably

halcyon breach
daring heron
#

same

halcyon breach
#

A lot more consistent and Execute just doesn't really matter

thick kelp
#

playin demolish wasnt enough to troll your boss dam so you go bl too

halcyon breach
#

So wcyd

thick kelp
#

hoooly

halcyon breach
daring heron
#

what spec exactly do you run

swift crown
#

Does trolling your boss dam really matter when the Affliction Lock doubles you in boss dam and does more add damage anyway

#

And the Fire Mage does too

halcyon breach
thick kelp
#

I just dont value the add dmg when all the other specs just do it better

#

I would just rather play for arms niche

swift crown
#

Tbf Benzai is actually useless cause his guild runs 2 Destro Locks

#

So close add gets annihilated by Mage, far add gets annihilated by Warlock

halcyon breach
#

I am indeed useless this is true

swift crown
#

Nothing you can do you're here for mental support

halcyon breach
#

My reel assistant damage though isn't too hot garbage

#

So it could be worse

#

I could also just play better I think and do more

swift crown
#

Benzai blasting

thick kelp
#

also why are your devokers so low

#

omegalul

halcyon breach
#

Idk

daring heron
astral yarrow
#

they can hit all 3 at the same time no?

halcyon breach
#

We've had one of our dragons do some silly stuff by the adds to cleave them all

astral yarrow
#

Ill flame dapsi instantly

thick kelp
halcyon breach
#

And they've consistently dropped big hit near the boss often

#

At least they used to

thick kelp
#

hmm im doing about same assistant damage benazi

swift crown
#

This is Assistant damage on our best pull

halcyon breach
#

So haven't actually gotten to pop it yet

molten mauve
#

pretty sick how banezi guild has same progress as critcake , critcake should join echo or something

swift crown
#

Spongiewarr died I think?

thick kelp
swift crown
#

Banezi is Echo

fresh spire
#

Try slayer battlelord

swift crown
#

And Liquid

fresh spire
halcyon breach
astral yarrow
#

Echo and Liquid has nothing on banezi

halcyon breach
#

Only had 1 real night on it

astral yarrow
#

revvez get out

molten mauve
swift crown
#

Revvez is Archi but Banezi is better

icy mulch
thick kelp
icy mulch
#

Gives us more time to build fatality.

swift crown
#

You're just trolling the raid if you don't hit adds

thick kelp
thick kelp
quasi torrent
#

boss bad for warrior

#

timers bad

thick kelp
#

ofc u sweep from

#

assistant

quasi torrent
#

Last phase turbo ez

thick kelp
#

))))

astral yarrow
#

dk > finland

thick kelp
#

?

#

he has 10 more pulls but only 3% more boss prog

fresh spire
#

Surely fatal bad when u sweep adds

molten mauve
#

just gear your moonkin alt better on this fight

halcyon breach
#

We've had quite a few silly wipes to very avoidable stuff

quasi torrent
#

cauee u always get an exe kinda

halcyon breach
#

That should not have happened

swift crown
quasi torrent
#

its fine

fresh spire
#

Goal would be to get all marks on boss though surely

quasi torrent
#

Yesnt?

#

p2 is easy

molten mauve
swift crown
#

When both Shadow and Warlock are infinitely better at this fight than Boomie

quasi torrent
#

i dont think it matters rly

halcyon breach
#

Crazy Fatal pop inbound

south beacon
#

normal for 665 best in slot to sim 100k lower than 675 crafted?

halcyon breach
#

Because weapon ilvl matters a lot

swift crown
#

Hmm

quasi torrent
#

bestinslots is one of the weps

molten mauve
#

forget it otherwise

quasi torrent
#

guys tomorrow on reclear ill use the pirate

molten mauve
#

craft or get M weapon from vault

quasi torrent
#

Yarrrr

#

pirate + lock n stalk

#

finally good trinket combo

#

YARRRRRR

astral yarrow
molten mauve
#

bring the player not the trinket

swift crown
#

Wait

molten mauve
#

trinket whores

swift crown
#

Tomorrow is wednesday

quasi torrent
#

yea

halcyon breach
#

This is true

swift crown
#

Nowae

#

I don't want to play World of Warcraft

quasi torrent
#

schmidimogus needs to be 80 today

#

to get a key done

#

to get red transmitter first vault

astral yarrow
#

i somehow got my mage so infamous in guild that i havent been able to rat into a 10 yet

#

im fuming

quasi torrent
#

xdddd

#

magebtw

halcyon breach
#

I gave you a lvl 8 delve boost

astral yarrow
#

i need another

halcyon breach
#

Gotta be content with what you get

astral yarrow
#

cause i have map

quasi torrent
#

map heißt Karte

astral yarrow
molten mauve
quasi torrent
astral yarrow
#

what is delve called in yerman

astral yarrow
astral yarrow
#

and i am somehow infamous while being mostly purps on mage

halcyon breach
#

Almost gray median is crazy

quasi torrent
#

bro thats worse than andapamp

halcyon breach
#

Yeah? so what :3

quasi torrent
#

and that demon is locked away in korthia

swift crown
#

Banezipamp

#

Drbanezi

halcyon breach
#

I am the mechanics do'er

molten mauve
#

LOL

astral yarrow
#

Supahotfiyah was unleashed from shadowlands prison as well

swift crown
#

Schmidimogus was released from Remix prison yesterda

#

it's time

halcyon breach
molten mauve
astral yarrow
halcyon breach
astral yarrow
#

banzai is avid hekili user

halcyon breach
#

I really don't care much about my mage damage as long as I'm not below tank damage (I'm dangerously close)

swift crown
#

Banezi uses a sophisticated system with strings attached to his fingers and a good Frost mage player tugging on the strings to make him press correct buttons

molten mauve
#

it's like hack and slash spec

swift crown
#

loboz build

astral yarrow
#

i was blasting a 636 dh on my 611 mage last night

#

giga dam in my +3

quasi torrent
#

loboz build

halcyon breach
#

this is a powerful image

quasi torrent
daring heron
halcyon breach
#

Me 🤝 Splat

daring heron
#

this is like

#

shadowlands baneziwarr

astral yarrow
halcyon breach
#

Put some credit on my name back then

quasi torrent
#

rude

daring heron
#

i joke...

molten mauve
#

nice Single target at 637

halcyon breach
#

I was an average blue parser

#

Averagely average

quasi torrent
#

he jests

molten mauve
#

giga mage

daring heron
#

you had consistent blues i remember

quasi torrent
#

what a jester

astral yarrow
#

look at him being yellow now

#

actually getting yellow parses as well

swift crown
#

Benzai Warrior onetrick

#

smh

astral yarrow
#

all grown up

molten mauve
#

i feel if you understand mage rotation you will understand the game
ghingi said to min max is not easy

icy mulch
halcyon breach
swift crown
#

It's true

halcyon breach
#

But he's the best wow player in the world so if he said it, I'd believe it

astral yarrow
#

dont talk to me rn

daring heron
halcyon breach
#

So true

#

Should've had a Spriest instead of a Boomie in the group

#

Actually you had a MW monk innit

halcyon breach
#

Useless debuff

latent moss
#

shouldve had a shaman for skyfury

daring heron
#

was just missing 3 combusts every 2 minutes

fresh spire
#

Man got critcaked

daring heron
halcyon breach
#

oh

#

useless healer entirely then

daring heron
#

group was vdh rdruid boomy mage arms

latent moss
#

arms abuser....

halcyon breach
#

2 druids in 1 group it's so gg

#

double orange affix

daring heron
swift crown
#

Anda

quasi torrent
swift crown
#

how was your coffee

quasi torrent
#

im in bed

astral yarrow
#

yung kripp

swift crown
#

based

quasi torrent
#

I'm afraid of the coffee schmidi

halcyon breach
#

escape room impossible

swift crown
quasi torrent
#

i will

#

and i will throw up maybe

#

We shall figure that out in a bit

astral yarrow
molten mauve
astral yarrow
#

coffee is 🐐

quasi torrent
#

yeah not the one

#

illbe drinking today

fresh spire
#

I heard crit focus the combust target to ruin his dps

halcyon breach
#

Get your morning gonster

thick kelp
#

Woke up to drink white monsters

halcyon breach
#

And you'll be fine

molten mauve
#

LOL

thick kelp
#

checkmate fury copers

#

Gingi said arms does funnel

fresh spire
#

It sorta does

quasi torrent
#

i used my last capsule to make one before raid yday evening
didn't drink it
noticed it at the machine past midnight
put it in the fridge
will microwave jt

this is probably gonna be the worst worst coffee ever

fresh spire
#

Cleave->fob then every other ability is st

astral yarrow
#

iced coffee

fresh spire
#

Get fobbed

astral yarrow
#

real coffee aint it

halcyon breach
#

Hot coffee is the only coffee

quasi torrent
#

Desperate measure

molten mauve
#

tbh critcake swooped ghinigi ass in golden plate , this meter is enough to give him a spot in echo to bash with Revvez

quasi torrent
#

coldbrew can be nice, but this is just cold regular coffee

astral yarrow
#

gf and i bought an espressy machine just to make good iced coffee

quasi torrent
#

and iced coffee is just sugar

thick kelp
#

Iced coffee weirdge

latent moss
#

sylvanes mythic

quasi torrent
astral yarrow
#

nono, like iced coffee from cafes n shit is just sugar

thick kelp
#

sussy

latent moss
#

only real coffee is hot coffee

daring heron
#

sugar in coffee smh

astral yarrow
#

this is just 2 or 3 espresso shots, ice and some milk

thick kelp
#

Black coffee straight from the pan

quasi torrent
latent moss
#

nothing like a hot coffee at a gas station on the highway at 4am

astral yarrow
#

the sweetness needed comes from milk

solar quarry
thick kelp
#

no milk in coffee!

#

no sugars or sweeteners!

quasi torrent
#

mo thanks

thick kelp
#

coffee is black

#

it will stay black

midnight mural
#

One Armed Bandit looks annoying af

halcyon breach
#

Because iti s

quasi torrent
halcyon breach
#

It's a garbage fight

quasi torrent
#

hf

halcyon breach
#

Get through it

latent moss
#

its ass

astral yarrow
halcyon breach
#

And be happy you're past it

astral yarrow
#

that shit was real strong at the end of teh day

quasi torrent
#

And probably real disgusting too

astral yarrow
#

cowboy coffee

midnight mural
#

I dont want to switch target all the time no matter if im arms or fury >_>

quasi torrent
austere hedge
daring heron
halcyon breach
astral yarrow
steel sluice
#

If you put milk and sugar in your coffee it's just a caffeninated milk shake just sayin

halcyon breach
thick kelp
#

Jugg chaining on OAB kinda fun

#

ngl