arms

[flat willow]

in mythic+?

[proud remnant]

ya

[pale glade]

CDR week?

[proud remnant]

ahhh yeah thats prob it

was driving me nutty lol

[pale glade]

yeah, im not a big trinket haver so still only have my 639 mark. im running double passives this week because the desync is annoying

[manic pasture]

What's the string to sim races

[rose matrix]

How important is rend in aoe?

[compact geyser]

its definitely somewhere between the top and bottom of the priority list

[rare kite]

pretty important, but you just press thunderclap

[hot cypress]

Anyone else keep having the citizens in Operation Mechagon just before the stealth area randomly aggro on you?

Not even targetting them, hand off my keyboard using auto run I still get their aggro for some reason

[compact geyser]

do u have something still ticking that gives off a damage aura ? i forget to cancel immo aura on dh sometimes and it will pull them

[hot cypress]

Not that I'm aware of

[ebon fern]

Im kinda shocked that the 9950x3d is idling at a lower temp than the 7600x

[rose matrix]

Do you just aim to have it on 5 or all targets?

[maiden notch]

How difficult is unholy compared to arms

[muted iron]

hi, anyone have a kick macro?

[lean geode]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/best-weakauras-macros-addons#automatic-targeting-and-utility

[lean geode]

Arms easier by a good bit I think but unholy isn't particularly difficult either

Assuming you mean in M+

Arms in raid gets a little more complicated

[maiden notch]

I actually think arms in raid is the simpler spec. Actually colossus is more complicated.

[lean geode]

#arms message

Colossus is pretty damn simple with that build in M+

Obviously there are always tiny optimizations you can do, but you can get really good results with really little effort

[maiden notch]

Thank you I am very aware how to play warrior.

I am confident enough to say that arms is more difficult to pull off in m+, than slayer raid build.

I just wanna know how difficult uh is, cuz I am thinking of rolling to a fotm sidekick

Not gonna go over the struggle to pug season title again on a horrible class

[thick kelp]

go ask dk discord then idk

[maiden notch]

Dk‘s will say surely that their dk is 9.5/10

That’s literally what my guilds dk did

[silk spade]

UH is pretty simple nowadays
gotta track some stuff to optimize tho

[maiden notch]

While arms being a 7 at most

That’s why I rather ask my fellow brothers in arms

[rain cipher]

how can i cancel Demolish's channeling if I want to?

[lean geode]

I mean you asked and then told me to pound sand

[silk spade]

escape/jump/leap

[lean geode]

Respectfully, it sounds like you already made up your mind about playing udk

[rain cipher]

you mean pressing escape button?

[silk spade]

yes

[rain cipher]

thanks

[maiden notch]

I asked about unholy. You said that raid arms is more difficult than colossus.
Was not asked and I strongly disagree

[lean geode]

Also respectfully, if you're trying to push title then you should probably not be concerned with how easy your class is

[lean geode]

I said that Colossus is easier than Unholy, but since you didn't clarify about M+ vs raid, I added the caveat that imo Slayer arms is harder than Colossus

[maiden notch]

Respectfully, you are interpreting stuff that never was said.

I said that I don’t wanna struggle again with a class that isn’t catching any invites. And wanted to figure how difficult it is to learn unholy and how hard it is compared to something like arms.

[thick kelp]

Unholy is mega ez

this current iteration

you press cds into spamming one button

and spending rp occasionally

[latent moss]

bloodsurge fucks

helps with exhil blows rng

playing slots and getting 4 ms in a row

cleave ms ms cleave ms ms type shit

[thick kelp]

what about cleave cleave cleave cleave cleave ms op cleave

[latent moss]

cleave is 20 rage chatting

thoughts walhe

mortal strike

30% crit

not a single crit

12 casts

[thick kelp]

gagaga

skill issue

[latent moss]

aware

i wanted to open someones skull

at that moment

[thick kelp]

shoulda talented skullsplitter

[halcyon valve]

just had like 8 battlelord procs back to back lmao

[quasi torrent]

1.3% 1.4%

[latent moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208430048072310834/1350194515377520700/togif-1.gif

[quasi torrent]

177300

[latent moss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1332435591530414082/1333191500263325776/togif.gif?=&width=1032&height=945

[thick kelp]

177300

[lean geode]

Yeah I haven't simmed it but my intuition would be that BB is numerically better, bloodsurge is super comfy tho

[halcyon valve]

but yeah lowkey, dreadnaught kinda decent in a premade group with big pulls, did like 55% of overpower direct damage

its not much damage, but more than strength of arms would have done

[latent moss]

yeah but less than demolish

prioing ms gives a fuck ton of colossal might stacks

and am cdr

[halcyon valve]

yeah i know

what do you think im pressing

im not prioritising OP in my rotation

but when you actually do press it because other stuff is on cd, dreadnaught does okay damage

[latent moss]

ye but its meaningless anyway

10t and st

5 min both

im fairly certain the apl doesnt prio op either

nvm it prios it

will adjust and check

[ripe field]

does the arms colo priority order hold while Colossal Might is < 10 and big CDs are up?

[halcyon valve]

for some fucking reason my trinkets cd is fucked up tho

1:30 cooldown, macrod with avatar, comes off cd 4 seconds AFTER avatar wtf

[ripe field]

basically is it worth throwing a MS in when you might normally hit Overpower

[latent moss]

affix no

ye its affix i think

[ripe field]

to reach 10 Colossal might more quickly

[latent moss]

u always ms over op

[thick kelp]

Rota is cleave ms op

regardless of dn

[latent moss]

i op over ms if i have a big cd cleave coming up

and i wanna buff it as much as possibl

with mbg and mp

[thick kelp]

yeye but general

its thag

[latent moss]

ye

so much simpler

than op if sifhifhsdidsjif tc if uidsghsdhgisdh ms if dshguoishguisd

[ripe field]

:| do what now

ok im tracking

[latent moss]

in aoe

cleave>ms>op

on st ms>op>execute if in execute>slam

[ripe field]

right, i was thinking that with Warbreaker, 10% from demolish, 30% from Ravager that counts as a big Cleave window

[quasi torrent]

stop with these difficult rotations

[latent moss]

im sorry 8

[ripe field]

but its only specific Cleaves like after Sweeping Strikes expires that its worth OP over MS?

[tacit crystal]

rotate this

[latent moss]

yes its cause of collateral damage

@thick kelp ms>op even with dn

hoooly gainz

[thick kelp]

ye i told u

regardless of dn or not

always cleave ms op

[latent moss]

ye i knew that u found it but i was just surprised its not in the apl im using latest i think

also save me from 658 weapon

[thick kelp]

fishy just tested it today

so thats why xdd

[latent moss]

ah fair

i never found it logical to op>ms as colossus

[thick kelp]

it was logical when ravager and ss was bugged

but now that its not its xdd

[latent moss]

ye thats true as well

ms crits with ss up

4 stacks

cinema

exhil blows procs

crits again on both targets

suddenly at 8 stacks

cinema

[tacit crystal]

proc me

[latent moss]

i will gio57

[quasi torrent]

gio=galastronk

[tacit crystal]

adna

[fresh spire]

out of date, DN is lower than MS on next update

DN was better value with the old sim as it had higher uptime on max stacks of CM where the ravager bug was fixed in prepatch (wasn't aware)(at least was told it was fixed then) so its been removed now. MS stocks up

[ebon fern]

Why are arms and fury doing so much st damage right now?

Good tier set? Buffs before patch that i missed?

[unborn canyon]

Cause blizzard felt bad about last season

[latent moss]

tuning on our rotational buttons

[unborn canyon]

Yeah, big tuning

[latent moss]

ms got buffed by 66% for example

[ebon fern]

Holy shit, 66%??

That is utterly insane

[latent moss]

ye it absolutely fucks

now

[unborn canyon]

Tho that with a nerf to the op buff right?

[ebon fern]

You sure about that?

66% seems like an insane number

[latent moss]

no thats pre 5% aura nerf

[latent moss]

it was barely worth pressing in execute last tier

ms was seriously down bad

[ebon fern]

I don't like how they removed execute interactions for colossus though

[latent moss]

i like it

keep gameplay styles separate

colossus is basically sl arms on steroids

[ebon fern]

If you mean worse then yes, going all the way to the other side and basically ignoring exe is not good

[latent moss]

i mean u dont ignore it

with the st build u press it all the time in exe

[unborn canyon]

You definitely press execute a lot in ST

[unreal rover]

If everything is on cooldown, and I have a choice of pressing Execute or Slam, What do I choose? If Execute does almost double the damage of Slam even at 20 rage, Why would I slam to fill? (This is ST on Slayer btw)

[unborn canyon]

Execute

[unreal rover]

That's what I thought! But the guide says otherwise, just curious your guys thoughts on it

[latent moss]

there is an optimization

to not cast sd even with nothing else

[unborn canyon]

Wait, is this in execute phase?

[unreal rover]

Outside the Execute phase, but using Sudden Death

[latent moss]

u shouldnt

[unreal rover]

So everything is on CD, and I can either Execute or Slam - What do?

[unborn canyon]

Ah okay, delay it to optimize jug stacks

[latent moss]

^

[unreal rover]

So it's about keeping Jug rolling

[latent moss]

basically yeah

[unborn canyon]

You press if you have 2 sds

Or to maintain jug

[latent moss]

2 sds sd falling off jugg falling off 3 marked for execution stacks

[silk dove]

In mythic dungeons if you don't play executioner's precision you only press exec to reset overpower ?

[latent moss]

it just replaces slam as filler

[unreal rover]

If Exe does double the damage of Slam, it's still only used under certain conditions, rather than to fill if avaliable?

[silk dove]

k ty cause it's a good up in overall and only a small nerf in ST so it don't look really nice

[unborn canyon]

Yes, cause of jug

[latent moss]

yes because keeping jugg up is a lot more important

[unreal rover]

Understood, Thank you

[unborn canyon]

You want to keep jug going as long as possible

[latent moss]

jugg should be permanent

[unborn canyon]

Feels good to make it to execute already with 15 stacks of jug

[latent moss]

or highee duration

[unborn canyon]

That, or just buff execute and remove it

[latent moss]

dropping it right before execute is even better

[unborn canyon]

Should be 20 seconds like prots

[latent moss]

ye removing it would be the best move

[unborn canyon]

That hurts me so much when it happens

[latent moss]

i love it

[unborn canyon]

We love gambling tho

[latent moss]

makes me want to destroy my monitor

eat my keyboard

[unborn canyon]

Tier set gambling, SD gambling

[latent moss]

tierset gambling is cinema

[unborn canyon]

While ranged specs get jackpot with their main CDs always

Fake gambling for them

[quasi torrent]

uwu weakaura

[latent moss]

i dont know why ava doesnt just give u 10 stacks for the duration

that would go so hard

nerf it a bit idc

[unborn canyon]

Yeah

[shadow ibex]

i dont wanna cast a button 15 times so it does dam please

[unborn canyon]

Or just make it take less stacks

[shadow ibex]

execute tooltip without jugg stacks is fucking anemic

[unborn canyon]

Ye

[pliant smelt]

Is it worth using ROar during a ST opener? I noticed a few logs they dont use it at all until a bit later.

[shadow ibex]

whenever i exe in m+ as colossus i hate myself

seeing myself at 110 rage and 10 years of warrior brain thinks spend that shit

no no no no do not press that button

overpower the enemy instead

need to get my tesla robot to slap me every exe cast

[unborn canyon]

Just change the icon of op to execute

[shadow ibex]

i saw that

and it would have been valid in s2

i miss when IP was just a 40 rage OP

[unborn canyon]

Lmao

[shadow ibex]

if you want real pain look at pvp tooltips for exe and slam

one cost 40 btw

[unborn canyon]

Bro wtf

[shadow ibex]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAP

[unborn canyon]

Pvp is so cooked

[shadow ibex]

no reason to press it

[unborn canyon]

Yeah, lmao

[shadow ibex]

it has some more built in crit dam depending on talents

but crushing force is 10% for slam

[unborn canyon]

Still

[shadow ibex]

and thats like 80% of what exe would get

[unborn canyon]

Wild

[shadow ibex]

if you went full ham

yea its bad

this guy knew

trade chat prophet

[unborn canyon]

They should make jug give 3 stacks in pvp, and permanent in combat

[shadow ibex]

i really dont know how that even happened

its a 40 rage button lmao

its fuckin hilarious tho

[unborn canyon]

Yeah, I don't know how pvp still exists too

Doesn't even have a vault slot at this point

[shadow ibex]

arms is reliable in 2s that with half a brain you can get w/e appearance

[finite ginkgo]

with blademasters, do we use sweeping after the sweeping from avatar run off?

[shadow ibex]

you can push to 2100 or 2200 and have a good time but after that

probably gonna get a lil toxic and sweatier than i like

you have to cast your real sweep first

p sure avatar sweep into real sweep makes avatar sweep end

but real sweep into avatar sweep provides proper extension so 23 secs of SS

[finite ginkgo]

I mean dont we want to end it twice for collateral?

[shadow ibex]

i rather extend and build bigger and get it on cooldown cuz when the long one ends it'll be up again in 7 seconds

most of the value is that cleave CDR tho

kinda silly just cleave x cleave x but cleave fucks

[strange perch]

Is there something that can make the nameplate of a pack in m+ have an effect on it or something if rend is applied?

I noticed an m+ wa i have kind of 'highlights' the add that grows bigger on motherlode 2nd boss for example

something similar

[ebon fern]

Be nice if warbreaker and blunt was not a choice node

Also, wtf is that warbreaker animation?

Awful

[shadow ibex]

maybe all trinkets wont be shit now

[steep osprey]

that blackwater pirate is nuts on st

and they buffed it

ICAN"T

[hot cypress]

Can't imagine any of the trinket buffs change our bis but we wait and see

[shadow ibex]

i doubt it

more so people arent using old season shit

or something champ v hero because the effect is just awful

[steep osprey]

Did you know about Blackwater pirate trinket?

[strong tendon]

i have it and have no idea what it does. dont like how i have to click it twice, too lazy to make a macro to place it automatically

[shadow ibex]

tbf seems bug

[hardy marten]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-march-25/2080741

[shadow ibex]

@minor gust bs buffed

[tacit crystal]

@minor gust in pvp

[naive breach]

walhe changed my life

[gusty oxide]

Wew, we dodged the bullet

But our friend prot took it

[dim basalt]

Prot will still do tons of damage

[gusty oxide]

Ofc

And Thane will come closer to Colo

[latent moss]

What is wrong with you devs? Literally BUFF MORTAL STRIKE its INSANELY WEAKER than any other ability in our toolkit. Our FILLERS do more consistant damage than mortal strike. Execute? Dawg noone cares about execute damage of we alone cant get anyone down below 90% hp. Joke of a game

[tacit crystal]

real

unironically you were pressing slam over execute in pvp

before today

lol

[latent moss]

XD

nah no way

real?

[shadow ibex]

Yes

[tacit crystal]

yes

im srs

@astral talon in pvp do i press exe or slam

[shadow ibex]

You can just look at the tooltip

[tacit crystal]

i mean just to prove it

[shadow ibex]

I posted it earlier

[tacit crystal]

i cba searching on my phone

gg

[fervent hornet]

any changes to trinket priority after the buffs?

[latent moss]

AHHAHAHA

SLAM > EXE IS DIABOLICAL

pvp

[tacit crystal]

its real

[latent moss]

who cares

tbf

ye ik u told me

[tacit crystal]

still feels bad

like

[latent moss]

pvp

[tacit crystal]

XDDD

[latent moss]

pvp isnt real

[tacit crystal]

ik

Xxdd

[latent moss]

fastest leveling to 80

from 70

please save me

[tacit crystal]

wait for dmf

tw spam

[latent moss]

despair

[shadow ibex]

Make earthen

[tacit crystal]

there might be some aids way with prep

[shadow ibex]

And walk around

[tacit crystal]

but idk

[latent moss]

hell na

ugly ahh race

[naive breach]

ok listen

if you play blademasters torment

[tacit crystal]

you already went wrong

try again

[naive breach]

unlucky

[latent moss]

bro people saying

warlords has n ovalue are tweaking so hard

20% crit

on ur 2 biggest damage instances

cd cleave and demolish

[tacit crystal]

bring back old warlords

[latent moss]

real

[naive breach]

i was wondering do you go 8 seconds of SS

into little collateral

into

big ss

big collateral

or do you go 500seconds SS into FAT collateral

[tacit crystal]

2

[latent moss]

7

i think u are overestimating how long packs live

even on 14s 15s

16s

[naive breach]

yeah but you take your collateral with you to the next pack ye

time to BONK

[latent moss]

i played a bit with blademasters

on paper it should be a lot more dps

cause more cleave

but nah

• reck feels so good on opener

[shadow ibex]

I been playing it in like 90% of runs

As long as you don't cancel a sweeping its dope

[astral talon]

Exe to reduce cd of everything

And buff, ye

But slam was doing same or more dmg for a while, or still is, I dunno i dont do warr pvp xD

[sage badge]

Arms owns. ML+13

[fresh spire]

deswind owns

[halcyon valve]

no nerfs for us, we fucking win

[shadow ibex]

I was hoping for bs buff

Cope

[minor gust]

Well it's official Blizz approves of ravager slayer

[shadow ibex]

I think simpler

Confusing ravager with something else like warbringer

[minor gust]

Genuinely surprised they didn't react at all seeing ravager Slayer logs show up. Guess it's because no one played it in rwf

[shadow ibex]

I thought I saw a ravager on mug but mighta been prot

Idk what col prot plays tbh

[minor gust]

Prot plays ravager

[proud remnant]

Slayer needed some substantial bladestorm buffs to make it somewhat viable in M+ crazy how they keep missing the mark there. Open up additional play styles!

[shadow ibex]

Insert happy with warrior

[minor gust]

It's not about M+ we needed the bladestorm buffs because it's fucking viable to take Ravager on slayer

Personally I think it's fine that Slayer is the raid spec and Colossus is the M+ spec

[chilly isle]

There are 0 public logs where arms play Ravager in mythic

[minor gust]

In mythic yeah there's none but there was quite a few in heroic and normal

[naive breach]

any blademasters torment enjoyer tho ??

[minor gust]

Shouldn't have to be mythic to raise some alarm bells

[sage badge]

Yeah I play blademasters torment

[chilly isle]

People play all kinds of talents in heroic

[minor gust]

Yeah but Slayer is designed around BS talent literally do not work if you play ravager

That is a major problem

That ravager is even viable

[random ibex]

are the trinket buffs live?

[minor gust]

Unless things change I still plan on playing ravager on Bandit and Mugzee when we get there

[rose matrix]

Is it worth holding Ravager for a bit for Warbreak or should you just send it

[minor gust]

Hold till Warbreaker is up

[brittle fiber]

sup frozenbozo

[minor gust]

Hi Coatsman

[brittle fiber]

real shit

[random ibex]

when is ravager better than BS?

[brittle fiber]

always

[minor gust]

When you care about execute damage

[random ibex]

?? i simmed it last week and it was a loss

[minor gust]

I would play it on any fight that lusts in execute

[random ibex]

ok

so basically current just mugzee heroic

for us

[minor gust]

If you guys are still lusting in execute sure.

[brittle fiber]

shouldnt need to lust mugzee heroic with the 3% damage boost anymore

we were like 40 seconds ahead in damage this reset

[minor gust]

Depends on the guild some ppl are still progging or still need lust there

[brittle fiber]

i often disregard casual players when i make a point

[brittle fiber]

do you play fury or arms for gallywix?

[minor gust]

when we progged it I played fury

[misty sandal]

We dodged the nerfs.

https://tenor.com/view/bless-my-heart-relieved-sigh-of-relief-gif-15784154447395771325

[minor gust]

no one was expecting nerfs

[pearl jasper]

Just checking, the nerfs to Colossus are just to prot variant right?

[minor gust]

just to prot

[misty sandal]

I never underestimate blizzards ability to nerf anything and anyone.

[minor gust]

true

[naive breach]

ele buffed

is this real life

[languid fiber]

500% of 0 is still 0

[naive breach]

i see big numbers

= buff

[steep osprey]

Why is that surprising

[naive breach]

you tell me

[steep osprey]

[shadow ibex]

[viscid nest]

so our AoE prio in M+ is Cleave>MS>OP basically right? even during SS?

[shadow ibex]

yes

2 target sweeping

swap cleave with OP

p sure

[viscid nest]

cleave is just a filler basically in 2T right?

with SS

[shadow ibex]

yea

2 target colossus with BL feels

[ebon fern]

Always liked motherlode

[cobalt sinew]

i lived one of those hype hustle things getting the achievement on rik reverb

is this the power of plate privilege

[ebon fern]

Arms right now is pretty nice, but at this point i can definitely say that i preferred the df version, just add ravager to df arms and it's really good to me

[latent moss]

during ss ms>op>cleave

well

ms>op>cleave if no mp>slam>cleave

same rota as st

cleave if no mp is not a big optimization

if u cba with it dont do it

[latent moss]

s2 sks >= s3 jugg > current colo >>>>>>>>>> all other

s3 jugg was so fun but rng

massive tclap was peak

[ebon fern]

Are you talking about the s3 set for df? Yea i liked that a lot

Made execute actually good in aoe, at least sudden death

They should bring it back as a talent

[latent moss]

ye s3 df

s2 sks was the most fun for me

totem in bracken?

sks explosion

[viscid nest]

mp?

[latent moss]

martial prowess

op buff for ms/cleave

[rare kite]

truu, replace jugg

[ebon fern]

The idea is to just remove every 2 talent node and fill back up gradually with more interesting talents

[balmy kindle]

nice arms not touched

[viscid nest]

oh duh

[stoic siren]

Where are my bladestorm buffs. Should be our premium aoe ability

[shrewd hound]

Does anyone know why the opportunity graphic from an overpower reset keeps going away like a second after it pops up? I still have the buff but not the graphic

[vast surge]

I miss when warlord’s torment interacted with CS

Also why can’t we have the bursty version of bladestorm and does demolish still fail. Stupid ability.

[magic canopy]

blizzard design

its weird but its why we use a WA for it

[shrewd hound]

thats really fucking annoying

[vivid ore]

no sims for the trinkets buffs yet right

[smoky kayak]

you can sim it yourself

[minor gust]

to be fair that indicator is for tactician reset not for opportunist

would it be nice if they also adjusted it to fit with opportunist yeah

but its blizz what can we do

[west sun]

out of curiosity, what are people doing on ST dummies at 660?

after a few mins

[open ingot]

Just sim it

I only play arms m+ and not true st talents but im doing 2mil in m+ spec

With around 660

[strange perch]

during execute phase, why are we not supposed to use mortal strike during ravager?

[grand idol]

Because unhinged eats the ep stacks.

So might as well just build more.

[strange perch]

ah makes sense. thank you!

[west sun]

Im not asking for peoples sims lol

[bleak fog]

Can you see if you have used the wave scrambler 2000 this week on some way?

Cant remeber if I done it or not ><

[shadow jacinth]

I dont know what it is, but my demolish was feeling small.

[slow saddle]

We survivrd tuning

So far

[hexed snow]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-endeota-gif-7156310779592750708

"so far"

[finite ginkgo]

Guys is blademasters worth it in high keys ?

[slow saddle]

Doubt it

[lone marsh]

do these trinket changes mean anything for us

[slow saddle]

Actually dont know 80% of em

[lone marsh]

im simming

[eager sigil]

check updates channel

[lone marsh]

does anybody know how the hitbox of cleave even looks

is that shit 180 cone in front of us

[minor gust]

180 semi circle infront of you

[slow saddle]

No cone small circle

[south nebula]

Hey guys, quick question, let's say you had bleeds on the target and then cds come up (avatar, csmash) and you pop them. Do you reapply bleeds after cd or they automatically benefit from the cds?

[empty sluice]

Automatically

[south nebula]

I don't know why i've had this notion in my head that i have to reapply

Thanks

[minor gust]

old wow mechanic

[empty sluice]

Relic from the past

[minor gust]

called snapshotting

[south nebula]

right

[cyan oriole]

did raidbots update or did the trinket tuning changes not do anything at all

[severe crag]

Probably haven't updated it all yet.

But no idea

[eager sigil]

#updates-midnight

[lone fable]

why do we take executioners precision and finishing blows instead of 2/2 bloodborne in m+?
only for better single target dmg?

do we use execute in aoe scenarios, or only if nothing better to press?

[minor gust]

not many people take EP and FB right now most are running 2/2 BB or 1 BB/Bloodsurge

[lone fable]

oh ok? i thought archon pulls the talents, most ppl use?

[minor gust]

I guess I shouldnt say most then my bad. People are just copying builds from guides.

The idea to drop EP and FB was something that came after the patch

[brisk bridge]

Not sure why would you need Bloodsurge

im swimming in rage to the point that I am taking Ignore Pain

[minor gust]

as people realized how little we press execute with the colossus M+ build

[brisk bridge]

With how the set item works and how Execute got nerfed with its interaction with Demolish

EP can be thrown away

BB is very good on higher keys where fights are longer

[minor gust]

the 2 BB points arent anything major very minor flex points. The idea for Bloodsurge is to help cover the rare moments you rage starve due to good rng with EB resets and a lack of skyfury in the grp if you dont have a shaman

[brisk bridge]

I guess its becuase of my very high Ilvl. If in the very rare chance i do run out of rage, I just step back and Charge back in

[minor gust]

I did say it was rare

basically only happens when you have a mix of good and bad rng

[brisk bridge]

But in the grand scheme of things, its very moot and in the difference of arouns 1%

[finite copper]

Hey team, I havnt done enough testing, just checking if some1 else has. Execute phase, if I luck out on 4 set with 6+ stacks, do I skip overpower if possible? Im not currently tracking it but should I be

[brisk bridge]

I do disagree about Blademaster Torment being bad tho. The higher my crit goes up, the less value I get from Warlords torment

[boreal quartz]

Psure finishing blows is better than bloodsurge if ur not going BB

For more rage in st with EP

[minor gust]

you dont really take EP anymore

you hit exe like 20 times in a key

[brisk bridge]

If you have 2 set, you start tracking. At 10 Stacks, over power is a more valuable press over execute

at 4 Set, I find Overpower being more valuable press over Execute. But in not that big. if You have EP just make sure you have 2 stacks OP and EP

[minor gust]

Blademaster isnt bad it just has no value in ST which is pretty important in keys

[boreal quartz]

i like EP + reck proc + FB

more st more fun

[brisk bridge]

Agreed. It really depends on external factors. In a comp where you have more Prio damage members, Blade master will give you more DPS overall

[minor gust]

yeah if you got some ST blasters in your grp I can see Blademasters being justified

[boreal quartz]

i also dont like playing bmaster xdd

[brisk bridge]

But if you sole obsessions is just overall DPS

BM will always give more value over Warmaster

[minor gust]

I like EP too but with execute just being a slam replacement to colossus most of the time you end a key with very few execute casts. Just kinda makes EP feel like poo and you would rather have BB

[brisk bridge]

Because Execute is poo in M+

[minor gust]

for colossus yes

[brisk bridge]

and the only reason you want to press it is if you took EP. which is only valuable in ST fights

[boreal quartz]

and i take EP cuz i like st

[minor gust]

Even with EP Fishy told me execute is still just a slam replacement so its not even like your doing the EP rotation

[brisk bridge]

Then press Execute

[minor gust]

[brisk bridge]

Execute has always been a slam replacement

[boreal quartz]

ye u play sl prio

[brisk bridge]

(at least in the last 2 expacs)

[boreal quartz]

which is fun to me

ms>op>exe if rage

[minor gust]

not true

[boreal quartz]

🙏

[minor gust]

[boreal quartz]

season 3 execute phase incident

ms as a deep wounds applicant

[minor gust]

even last tier KEK

[boreal quartz]

[brisk bridge]

Basically you just press Execute while waiting for mortal

[minor gust]

shit not even because you would get CS back intime before that happened most of the time

[boreal quartz]

mainly ye

[minor gust]

again theres been multiple cases of that not being true in these last two expansions

[brisk bridge]

Anyone here dont press Rend if you can Mortal, and OP even if Rend DOT was already out?

[brisk bridge]

What are those instances?

[minor gust]

last patch and season 3 of DF

[eager sigil]

colossus warrior right now

[brisk bridge]

I played last patch

[minor gust]

sounds like you didnt play arms then

unless you only did keys

[brisk bridge]

So you are suggesting that last patch, Execute was more valuble than Mortal Strike?

[minor gust]

yes

[thick kelp]

yes

[boreal quartz]

very much so

[brisk bridge]

TBF I did mostly keys haha!

[boreal quartz]

ye raid build

[brisk bridge]

OK i guess thats fair.

[boreal quartz]

ignored MS till 2EP2LB

[minor gust]

well in raid you only ever hit MS unless you had 2 stacks of EP and 2 LB

[brisk bridge]

I mainly used Fury last season

[boreal quartz]

can tell

[brisk bridge]

coz arms was kinda trashy

[boreal quartz]

historically arms execute is either unused or spammed

like s2 df id call a middle ground

[brisk bridge]

I can vaguely remember arms talents last season. WHy was Execute more valuable to press?

[minor gust]

because MS was piss weak

[boreal quartz]

tier set

[flat willow]

wait even with EP execute is a slam replacement?

[boreal quartz]

for colo

[flat willow]

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[minor gust]

if you are playing colossus

[boreal quartz]

since it doesnt stack

the thing

WONDERFUL change btw

[flat willow]

time to remove this trash talent

[minor gust]

yee thats why ppl are dropping EP in favor of BB

and if you dont run out of rage in execute because you dont press execute no reason to take FB aswell

[brisk bridge]

What I do hate about the execute right now is that it didnt sound like Shadowlands Execute where it was chonky

[minor gust]

hence double BB or 1 BB/Bloodsurge

[boreal quartz]

at least its not condemn

dogshit ability

[hot goblet]

Hi Phil

[boreal quartz]

alo

[brisk bridge]

condemn is the worst man.

[boreal quartz]

🤝

[flat willow]

nah I loved running people with condemn

[boreal quartz]

bro SL prepatch fated

was the most disgusting shit EVER

[brisk bridge]

stupid animation, stupid sound and stupid delays

[flat willow]

juts stomping on them from full hp to dead

in 2 GCD

[minor gust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1037464605414412298/HyperCondemn.gif

[flat willow]

first condemn takes you to execute range

[brisk bridge]

also shadow damage.. why?

[flat willow]

second condemn kills you

[boreal quartz]

i have a log thats now too old to check

30% gavel

50% condemn

[brisk bridge]

Do we know why arent we using the Execute sound from SL?

That Execute REALLY SOUNDED like an execute

[minor gust]

ask blizzard

[brisk bridge]

Its so dumb.

[boreal quartz]

i mean its better than the mass animation and sound we had in DF

[fast forge]

dont remember the goated S4 bfa rotation?

[brisk bridge]

Hell, Ill even get Execute sound on WOTLK over today's execute

[boreal quartz]

you can do that with an addon

fwiw

[eager sigil]

whats with the 4fun berserker rage?

[fast forge]

i dont remember its like 6 years ago

[eager sigil]

oh its bfa

yea season 4 went crazy with like 200% haste

[fast forge]

lucid dreams paired with coral crit trink from ashvein

[flat willow]

man I hate bfa

I hate it so much

might hate it more than I hate wod

[fast forge]

bfa s4 is the best tier in the history of wow

[flat willow]

[eager sigil]

i liked bfa

[minor gust]

hope your excited to have corruption enchants then

[fast forge]

every class playable every class fun

[minor gust]

cant wait to have twlight dev ass pull shit again

[fast forge]

I want a haste corruption enchant on all items of gear please

I hope its authentic

[flat willow]

aaaaaaaaaaa

[fast forge]

i want my raid to see me die to a 500% hp corruption eye

because i want infinate stars

[minor gust]

obligatory Gromnak infinate stars clip

[boreal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/gromnak-gunnars-mask-off-rage-world-of-warcraft-gif-22178131

[fast forge]

https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/AmazingRelievedMarjoramSoonerLater?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

[flat willow]

may bfa never see the light of day again

[fast forge]

https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/SleepyDaintyDunlinThunBeast?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

[flat willow]

alongside test of might its twisted spawn

[minor gust]

so cool their bringing back one of the most unfun things ever made, fucking horrific visions.

[fast forge]

they were not that bad

[minor gust]

I would of like em more if they weren't so gated. Having to farm a currency just to attempt one was really dumb

[fast forge]

id take visons over islands/delves/torgast/the hourly events we have had last 2 xpacs that you do once a week

like tf was that thing in s3 DF where you followed that tree around

idk visons were chill, how they work with coming back and the new cloak and how its designed, if there is a grind again or how you will cost to enter them will determine how enjoyable they are

[minor gust]

lol yeah thats just something Blizz really struggles on. Becuase how complex M+ and raiding has become and the massive skill diff between the top end and bottom end they really struggle with making engaging for fun content for all players

[fast forge]

I dont mind visons being difficult with a learning curve

I prefer that kind of weekly content over the trival "ive got to get this done for the week" kinda stuff we have currently

I like that the undermine weekly stuff is quick too do

but im falling asleep after doing a theater troupe

[minor gust]

doesnt help most of the events like theater troupe you can just straight up afk the whole time and still be rewarded

[halcyon valve]

most importantly, did yall notice that the sweeping strikes animation change is back?

[cosmic marten]

Hello Guys, how do you keep track of rend duration in a big pull, like 8-10 targets ? My Weakaura only shows the duration of my target.

[obtuse heart]

Plater shows them for me

[cosmic marten]

thanks buddy

[obtuse heart]

np

[boreal quartz]

fwiw that specific profile is available on wago

jundies' plater

[sacred zodiac]

did they hotfix noggenfogger or was there a simc update

[boreal quartz]

reportable message ingame

i shall not respond

[sacred zodiac]

you shall respond

[celest magnet]

Is Remnant trinket good now?

[sacred zodiac]

which one is that

[cyan oriole]

i think that's the one in darkflame cleft

[daring heron]

hey that plater looks familiar

[obtuse heart]

yea just installed it yesterday, so good for m+ 👌

[halcyon valve]

i got a weakaura that is set up to count the number of targets with the debuff, alongside the lowest remaining duration of it. there are times where the count bugs out, but overall its good enough to serve as a reminder to reapply it

[weak wave]

There is not a single necklace in the whole M+ loot pool? Oo

[compact geyser]

other than in st where ur just refreshing in pandemic window u shouldnt need to worry about it in big packs because its being applied through clap. and even with the 5 target cap each use of thunderclap will apply it to another random 5 targets so its going to be up regardless. i think its more important to track deep wounds and colossus debuffs on mobs in larger packs since thats where xtra damage taken comes into play

[slow saddle]

Dfc meadery

[weak wave]

Oh okay. But crap stats

[slow saddle]

Crit verse

Is ok

[weak wave]

I prefer haste+crit.

Good for tanking too

[slow saddle]

A neck wont make the difference

Crit is good

For prot as well

[weak wave]

Neck got tons of stats. This can make a difference

I lose 7% crit when I switch my Colossus neck for my raid neck

[icy mulch]

Is it actually good or still a meme?

[weak wave]

Neck + rings are 50% of all your 2nd stats.

[daring heron]

seems pretty good after buffs

[unique bridge]

oh no

[daring heron]

just reran a 6/6 hero delve droptimizer

[unique bridge]

I mean it's nice they brought some up to useable

I just had to check if any I had been holding onto beat my mechano/funhouse but not yet

[flat willow]

oh hell no

[sacred zodiac]

idk its +7k over cards for me rn

it was +16k yday

im trying to figure out what changed

[icy mulch]

Hmmm, that's interesting. Did you get more vers maybe?

[sacred zodiac]

i logged out that is all that happened

this is abt fury btw im not looking at arms until bandit

[icy mulch]

Yeah, I figured

Makes me want to recover the hero track Noggenfogger and test it

[slow saddle]

A crit heavy neck with some versa is good as armd

But as coll, and slayer

[sacred zodiac]

idk just sim it idk if the guy being able to die is relevant at all

[shadow ibex]

How's the dfc remnant now

[midnight mural]

It seems very buggy. Sometimes the add just does no damage.

[halcyon breach]

It does, it just doesn't show up on your details depending on which of the 2 you summon

[eager sigil]

still shit

[slow saddle]

Dmg not counted is dmg im not able to brag about. Big issue, or does it show in logs?

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[quasi torrent]

source: the voices in my head

[halcyon breach]

Idk I haven't logged it nor looked 👍

[slow saddle]

I though that was ys job

As top dog warrior

[midnight mural]

Didnt know that. Just figured if not shown in details it must be bugged

[cyan oriole]

thats crazy because i got that on hero track this week and was pissed off

[daring heron]

assume it's fine on wcl?

[halcyon breach]

Grrr critcake

!!

I haven't looked

[daring heron]

i counted on you to know...

[flat willow]

today is a good day

[halcyon breach]

Looking now I can find a singular log, and it at least seems to show

But it's hard to verify on a log which of the two it spawns

[flat willow]

because blizzard didn't do a collateral nerf to arms while nerfing prot colossus

if it was season 1 we'd be cooked

[slow saddle]

Just wait

[daring heron]

if it was s1 they'd prolly nerf prot by nerfing demolish but forget that arms also uses demolish

[halcyon breach]

Nvm I found a log where he used it 3 times, but it doesn't seem to appear in his damage breakdown

(Kinda awful to look on phone)

[daring heron]

exactly why i didnt want to try and find it myself

but you did it anyway, my man

[halcyon breach]

There is also just a chance he somehow died before hitting a single time, but that sounds unlikely

[slow saddle]

So atm its hiddrn dmg?

[random ibex]

has anyone done ?? underpin?

[strange perch]

hi what do you sim for M+ ?

[random ibex]

5 target patchwerk

[compact geyser]

u prefer to run the standard demo build or the no EP 2x BB build?

[strange perch]

thx

[thick kelp]

2bb

[hexed snow]

Got the lock n stalk trinket and it's been treating me good

[karmic elk]

Anyone else having slight issues with Luxthos Warrior WA? I keep glancing at Ravager coming back up but it appears to still be on CD for another 1-3 globals. Only me?

[quasi torrent]

the cdr affix doesnt work well with WAs internal cd tracking

[karmic elk]

I presume its connected to Anger Management CDR but i usually the cdr skills work fine on other classes

Oh its the affix, that makes a little more sense i guess. Guess ill just have to live with it, tyvm :)!

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-catjam-cat-pirate-catjam-pirate-cat-gif-21905878

Everyone with their trinkets

[pearl jasper]

When do we get the updated visual for warbreaker?

[shadow ibex]

Next patch

[lime heath]

Hello guys a quick question, is noggerfogger ultimate deluxe a simbait or legit?

[hollow plover]

Why would it be simbait

you summon a dude that either buffs you or deals decent damage

[dawn prairie]

i think that trinket is better for range classes

[sacred zodiac]

thats not what noggenfogger does lol

[hollow plover]

which one am i thinkin of then

[sacred zodiac]

probably sigil

[hollow plover]

oh yea maybe

[eager sigil]

Yea sigil does that

[sacred zodiac]

noggenfogger is weird though it does spawn a guy that melees and it does hit quite hard but he can die and half the time it doesnt attribute the damage to you

[hollow plover]

then it might be simbait actually

and i baited neki

sry bout that @lime heath

[sacred zodiac]

idk depends how you define simbait

i dont know if he actually dies commonly shrug

[hollow plover]

Generally, simbait is something that doesn't easily apply its potential into combat

like that caster barrel trinket

cause not all specs can pop it

that easily

[sacred zodiac]

it might undersim a bit cause it pops the trinket first then bis might be better the other way around idk

[lime heath]

Aight thanks guys i guess ill just wait for logs

[eager sigil]

Our mage just pops all of them and priest cry about not getting twist of fate xdd

[hollow plover]

gamer

[urban iron]

Simbait is eye of rezan

[olive nest]

20k crit when flask aligns and then 27k crit with signet

Critman

[urban iron]

Unless you understand how to keep high uptime in mythic+ (and the overwhelming majority of people do not, plus this dungeon pool is kinda ass for it) then it’s gonna sim high and offer you very little benefit in reality

That’s the kinda shit that is real simbait

[sacred zodiac]

i assume you mean kezan

and no one is expecting it to do well in m+ ye

[urban iron]

Yes

iPhone autocorrect ftw

[urban iron]

Maybe no one here

But there are many many people who only see “bloodmallet 5 target chart have big bar I equip”

[broken arrow]

Finally, that was a lot more tilting than Zekvir

[iron fjord]

Quick question because I can't seem to find any sheet or info on it. are there any dungeon/raid mechanics currently that we can immune with "die by the sword"? Like Sergeant Shaynemail's Lunging strike for example ?

[wispy escarp]

You can parry the big whirlwinds that the mini bosses and the gladiator boss in theater of pain. But the minis change abilities I think weekly. You can also parry the charge in dfc first boss.

[iron fjord]

ok sweet thank you!

[empty nexus]

Just make sure your boomie or fire mage also has the trinket. Ez

[slow saddle]

Has sims been updated for trinket changes?

[rare kite]

yes

[slow saddle]

ok

[rare kite]

use latest

[slow saddle]

so not nightly

[rare kite]

correct

[lament ridge]

Trying to catch up to convo about noggenfogger; is this thing simbait?

[sly stirrup]

What setting do you guys use to test M+ simulation? Dungeon slice, patchwerk 5 target?

[sage bison]

How troll is elemental focusing lens on arms in raid?

[serene thicket]

20 target 20 min pull

ilvl 598 running cinder +12

[ripe quartz]

Gz!! Did it as prot and found it easier than arms

[slow saddle]

only in as much as, it doesnt seem to be shown in logs or on details yet

but it actually should do dmg me thinks ?

it stll gives stupidly low Secondary stat?

wtf is this 1600 rating ?

[quasi torrent]

on neck and rings, not at all

[slow saddle]

lets be honest no embellishments are that strong atm u prob gucci 😄

[olive nest]

never bothered simming all of the embelishment options

maybe i should lol

[quasi torrent]

don't bother

funny grenade on is actually not that terrible either

[sacred zodiac]

you will play the goo-blin grenade

[olive nest]

gooblin grenade lookin real nice in the logs

[quasi torrent]

the goon squad

[slow saddle]

❤️

[slow saddle]

i used that trinket as well

pacemaker doesnt drop

[reef glade]

free balls

[smoky kayak]

I wouldn't call it bait, but trinkets that summon NPCs are notoriously unreliable - sometimes they work, sometimes the npc decides to fuck off, sometimes the npc dies

[cunning violet]

just get it on vault

[slow saddle]

I shall write u wednesday

Weirdest part woth noggen is u gotta place the summon?

[final stratus]

I had 5 trinkets this week, all rubbish. What a time to be alive

[golden zinc]

Is arms easier to play than fury in raid?

[slow saddle]

No

Fury is easier

Get wa archie provided and fury goes kaching

[golden zinc]

Where is this WA?

[smoky kayak]

then again, most of the top end trinkets are iffy in actual gameplay

• kezan doesn't work as well with short combat or downtime between pulls
• pacemaker doesn't work well with downtime in combat or between pulls
• noggenfogger requires the npc not to be dumb
• house of cards has a shard cd with Slots
  etc

[smoky kayak]

#1237307732705415228

[slow saddle]

It helped my fury play

I still botch clikin bt at a bit low% at time

But its rly not to punishin

[smoky kayak]

I actually think Arms is easier tbf, Fury "bounces" between actions a lot more (especially during Reck) and Double Down procs can be hard to predict

Arms is like 3 static buttons, the only thing you need to worry about happening suddenly is SD (which there's also a kaching WA for)

[slow saddle]

Spend rage send cds try to wait for kachin ans fury pretty much slaps

[slow saddle]

Its just the juggernaut stackering i find hard or well mainly frustrating

When badluck charlie hits me at 45%

[ripe quartz]

Isn't fury 3 buttons too?

[smoky kayak]

that I agree, Juggernaut is more punishing for sure

[smoky kayak]

the key word there was static

[slow saddle]

Tbf neither is hafd

[smoky kayak]

pre-execute Arms practically never deviates from MS > OP > Slam

[slow saddle]

But the 15 stacks into execute dream

[golden zinc]

What does static mean? Just press on cd when it lights up?

[smoky kayak]

static means unchaninging, it's a very straightforward priority

[golden zinc]

I see

[smoky kayak]

e.g. Arms is never going to prioritize Slam over OP or MS
Fury is constantly deciding whether it should use RB right now, or Rampage right now, or BT right now, or whatever

likewise

• the "kaching" you get for Arms (with Sudden Death) is almost gauranteed to be your #1 prio when it happens
• the "kaching" you get for Fury (with Bloodthist) is not

Fury just has more moving parts atm

[golden zinc]

Ah I see. I was playing fury for fun and I didn’t know you had to decide. I was just pressing whatever lights up and alternating between them so each button gets pressed to spread the love

[smoky kayak]

but I do agree that Arms is more punishing if Juggernaut falls

[slow saddle]

Which u cant always control

[smoky kayak]

which makes it frustrating

[golden zinc]

Sometimes 3 buttons light up in fury

And idk what to press

[slow saddle]

Rb if below 100

Ramp if above

[golden zinc]

Blood thirst, rampage, and another one lights up at the same time

[slow saddle]

Bt if above 85% crit

[smoky kayak]

exactly; neither rotation is particularly overladen with buttons, but Fury definitely gets a lot more jumbled

whereas Arms priority is always pretty straightforward

[slow saddle]

Sd if 2 stacks

[ripe quartz]

Isn't oportunist proc goes before than OP? Or doesn't matter that much and we can go ms>op?

[smoky kayak]

Opportunist really doesn't matter tbh

[slow saddle]

Op > ms if oppertunist no?

Unless 2 ops on the ms

[smoky kayak]

it's like a 0.1% optimization, not even worth tracking

[ripe quartz]

Lol fuck it then

I'll remove op glow from my aura then

Ty archi

[lament ridge]

Makes sense.

[smoky kayak]

I think it's worth more in higher gear, so you might wanna revisit it

and if you have a WA already setup to alert you for it, sure why not

[slow saddle]

Isnt it just on op resets?

So if slam or ms reset op send op?

[smoky kayak]

more or less; you still use it behind cooldowns and Sudden Death, but otherwise yeah

[fresh spire]

Difference of if you care about opportunist or not

[smoky kayak]

when I ran it at the start of the season (in my own gear) it was around 0.1-0.2

[rare kite]

and execute to a certain degree, if 1 ep stack send op if 2 send ms

[lament ridge]

What does that translate to %-wise? If you have the quick math done.

[slow saddle]

Its what ive been doin

[smoky kayak]

I just reran in max gear and it's 0.38%, so it definitely grows a bit

[lament ridge]

Ah, perfect.

[ripe quartz]

But that means more time looking at wa so less time paying attention to boss mechs

[smoky kayak]

so ymmv

[fresh spire]

Think its more important in execute than >35%

[ripe quartz]

Is that sending ms>op?

[fresh spire]

as the weaving makes for more fatter executes/rage starving

[smoky kayak]

I find it easier to use OP sub 35% since there's less going on in Execute

but there's also only like 2 fights this matters on

Well 3, Bandit can go either way

[ripe quartz]

What should I do to run my char with that change?

[lean geode]

I don't think I've ever been below 40 rage in execute tbh but I also put 1 in bloodsurge for comfiness

Is there a way to sim a strict MS > exe > exe > OP > MS rotation <35% instead of a prio list, and compare that to the regular APL?

Or maybe more of a MS > ( 2 exe + 1 OP in any order) > MS

[minor gust]

it happens man you get a string of bad luck and bam your rage starved. Why I think rage needs another massive overhaul its a complete mess

it goes from overflowing with rage and you just dont care to completely starved sometimes outta nowhere

[gilded basin]

mastery and crit sims best for me and yet a haste versa ring sims better ... i am so confused

same ilvl and gems

[eager sigil]

seems like its your best setup

[minor gust]

do not use stat weights if thats where you got your info that Mastery and Crit sims best

stat weights are super outdated way of doing things

[gilded basin]

hm okay

guess im just going with what sims tell me and keep the other rings

[minor gust]

trust the robot

you should only need to use top gear and droptomizer

[smoky kayak]

you can set up an action sequence to always use abilities in the same order, though it might break a little if something unexpected happens

[minor gust]

what do you think btw Archi do you find moments where outta nowhere you get rage starved or is it just a skill issue

it doesnt happen often but I find it happens

[smoky kayak]

as Slayer in raid? not really, maybe once in a blue moon

[minor gust]

yeah not often

[dry summit]

Do you cast to much slam?

by any chance?

[smoky kayak]

happens periodially during Execute as Colossus in M+, but as mentioned you can spec Bloodsurge to help with it

[minor gust]

its more of when you get lucky and unlucky at the same time

when you get a ton of EB procs

[smoky kayak]

MS reset strings, mostly

[minor gust]

with very little op procs

[dry summit]

But i mean do you press slam wrongly according to logs? like do you slam if you have OP up

[cunning violet]

just a thanks will be enough

[minor gust]

huh no ofc not

[dry summit]

Not everyone plays perfectly, and slamming to much can translate to rage dump

Im not flaming you, just curious

[lean geode]

Yeah I move 1 in BB into BS in both slayer raid spec and col M+ spec (with Walhe's no-EP build) and rage during execute is never an issue in either case

IIRC Fishy said before patch that 1 in BB vs BS was very close in slarms ST build

So I've just been doing that and not simming the difference bc I don't want to be sad

[minor gust]

its not a frequent issue I run into. it happens pretty rarely just annoying when it does.

[smoky kayak]

In ST, it's like 0.3% or something, very minor

maybe a slight bit more if you ever have the opportunity to multidot (bandit?) but probably not much more

[gilded basin]

is fatality usable in m+? sims pretty well

[eager sigil]

no

[fresh spire]

it sims well but its actually awful

[thick kelp]

Only sims well cuz u are cleaving 5targets for 3mins straight

lmk when you find a dungeon where that happens

[fresh spire]

sims run perfect sitations for it while in keys you never ever get that

[thick kelp]

xdd

[gilded basin]

okay so double bloodborne it is

[meager timber]

why is nogginfogger ultimate deluxe like the third best trinket on bloodmallet?

that makes no sense

[thick kelp]

they buffed it

by 20%

[halcyon breach]

Because trinkets got buffed last night in a hotfix

[thick kelp]

its probably getting nerfed

[meager timber]

damnit i sold mine

[vagrant heron]

you can restore it copium

[meager timber]

yeah its been saying restore cant find my account lol

[minor gust]

ive heard the noggenfogger mob can die so trinket prob still shit

[fresh spire]

hahahaha

[minor gust]

cant confirm but Banezi was talkin about it last night

[stuck axle]

Anyone know that weakaura that summarizes damage by global?

or addon

like when you press cleave it'll be like 40M

instead of each hit per mob

[gray herald]

he was permanently dying in my delve

but when he lives he goes crazy

also my 2nd cast wasnt attributed to me on the log

[tacit crystal]

logging delves

[gray herald]

no sorry