arms

[hexed snow]

[gray herald]

welcome to skyhold

[dim basalt]

Arms with M+ talents doesnt press execute often either

[slate schooner]

i asked a question about both specs and here we are

[dim basalt]

Unless you play EP

[slate schooner]

basicly only in single target

[barren void]

Exec not being prio this iteration is a crime

[dim basalt]

But even then only if you have nothing else

[astral yarrow]

it just replaces slam in ST really

[slate schooner]

i was so ready to exec when i start war for the first time

and we almost never press it

[minor gust]

Exe is prio just not for Colossus

[astral yarrow]

waste of rage as colossus

[minor gust]

Colossus treats exe as a slam replacement

And that's fine since Slayer is about exe

[barren void]

@minor gust i meant for fury lol

[slate schooner]

gonna note that

[deft bluff]

I miss exec giving colo stacks

[dim basalt]

But I prefer BL over exe prio ngl

[slate schooner]

even with the exec talent? where you get 2 stacks and then mortal strike??

[minor gust]

This isn't fury chat

[barren void]

Scroll up, lots of fury talk too lol

[minor gust]

I'm a warrior I can't read!

[barren void]

😦

[slate schooner]

i already took the blame for fury chat :(

[visual fern]

Mfw rookery last boss shields under 20%

[astral yarrow]

playing EP is a crime

[minor gust]

Rookery last boss big wrecking throws! Oh wait nvm

[halcyon breach]

As long as it's 35% then it's fine

[hexed snow]

I love EP on m+

There I said it

[halcyon breach]

Not having to care about Rend even less than I already do is great 👍

[visual fern]

@astral yarrow

[minor gust]

Nothing wrong with EP just a dead talent for Colossus cuz how lol you care about exe

[visual fern]

BIG EP VALUE

[astral yarrow]

kirikomain

[visual fern]

In rookery last boss

[astral yarrow]

[slate schooner]

Ok so unless you have sudden death talented you basicly never press execute, appart from replacing slam

weirdchamp

[visual fern]

Yo put some respect on his n ame

That man pocket healed me

[quasi torrent]

where damage buddy

[visual fern]

Alt warr bro...

I have like 9% haste

[dawn prairie]

i feel like execute needs more attraction on fury 600k damage lol

[visual fern]

[astral yarrow]

"alt war"

[quasi torrent]

🪞 ?

what wr do you play at a again

[astral yarrow]

661 ilvl

[visual fern]

[thick kelp]

alt warr thats higher ilvl than 99% of this discord

[visual fern]

It's 4fun bro

Not competition

[quasi torrent]

if mirror outside top10

777777777

[visual fern]

Gatekeeping fun.....

7 yourself....

[astral yarrow]

anda hates fun

[quasi torrent]

u already have a warrior buddy

[visual fern]

https://tenor.com/bnwuI.gif

[thick kelp]

what if my split fodder is just a warrior

[quasi torrent]

7

[thick kelp]

is this not allowed

[slate schooner]

i'm 446 lol, no luck

[quasi torrent]

446

[visual fern]

Not wr 10

[thick kelp]

gg

[latent moss]

im 254

[thick kelp]

I will roll payphone bm hunter split

[slate schooner]

still war is so strong i can still do some high keys !

[latent moss]

just got mythic ows

[quasi torrent]

177300

[latent moss]

259 ows owns

[quasi torrent]

177300

[thick kelp]

pog

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1341410531180806214/pQG30.gif

[quasi torrent]

add 177300 to it

[thick kelp]

https://imgur.com/a/41huGBf

@visual fern

[slate schooner]

Anyways, ty all for answering my questions, learned a bit as well <3

[icy mulch]

I hate Rik Reverb and I hate Stix. Both are ass fights as melee.

[quasi torrent]

richard resonanz

[icy mulch]

Nothing worse than getting bad RnG on bomb spawns.

[dim basalt]

Arms feels better on mythic Rik imo

But still pretty bad

[minor gust]

Riks fine for a boss I didn't mind it Stix tho is an abomination.

[hexed snow]

World Quest mechanic of rolling around is fin bro

[dim basalt]

Stix genuinely feels more like a minigame than an actual boss

[slow saddle]

we will NEVER kill that guy

on mythic

[hexed snow]

Have u guys done the undermine WQ where you go into a mech and freeze some mobs

[slow saddle]

like our heroic kills are so horrid

[rare kite]

not tried it as arms, but as fury it feels so rng having cds for certain add sets

[hexed snow]

That's the next raid tier mechanic on boss

[minor gust]

I don't even mind the ball roll mechanic it's more about the trash piles and the visual cluster fuck.

[slow saddle]

ye i mean pro tip, play less meelees

😄

[hexed snow]

The ball rolling is part of the visual aids

[slow saddle]

cant c shit

[minor gust]

Yeah we've only killed Rik once so far I progged as fury. The BS RNG was annoying

[midnight mural]

Some people just like playing warrior man

[minor gust]

Especially the first add set

[slow saddle]

Brother play thunderlord

[minor gust]

RNG get your bladestorm back in time for first set before everyone murders them

[charred quest]

anyone remember how to fix this bug where you have a random wep showing?

[minor gust]

For Rik idk but Stix def

[slow saddle]

true

i mix em up

but thunderlord claps

[rare kite]

yee, not killed it yet but it feels gigabad. do not like the fight

[minor gust]

Idk more of a fury issue than the fight issue

[halcyon breach]

I personally didn't really struggle with CD timings once you got a hang of when you can use them

My issue with Rik is barrel spawns

[minor gust]

Slayer strikes can be 10 procs in 10 seconds or no procs at all

[tacit crystal]

im at the point not wanting to wipe

[halcyon breach]

The fact that they can be massively split from where the boss is, is such an awful mechanic

[tacit crystal]

im playhing powerful

and holding for 3rd set

:3

[rare kite]

idk feels very rng dependant if i get bladestorm for first set of adds or not

[halcyon breach]

Are you playing powerful or frenzied

[tacit crystal]

ill just let swordish do more damage

[slate schooner]

in world you don't play EP cause you an AoE addict, what would you take instead?

[rare kite]

frenzied

[rare kite]

bloodborne

[halcyon breach]

From personal experience I've more often than not had my BS ready for 1st set, if anything slightly after they land

[tacit crystal]

i was playing arms for like 2 pulls

[slate schooner]

ho yhea could be a good option, especialy if i have high mastery

[tacit crystal]

but i swapped because we needed more add damage

smh

[minor gust]

At least for me felt like I had BS for the first add set about 70% of the time

[halcyon breach]

I assume you aren't doing the stupid Brutal Finish conditional

And just ignore it for this fight

[tacit crystal]

what is brutal finish

[rare kite]

ofc not

i just press rampage to try and get shit back

[tacit crystal]

press until rb

out

?

[halcyon breach]

yes

[minor gust]

Yes

[tacit crystal]

oo

i was

doign it

lol

[halcyon breach]

That conditional is detrimental on Rik

[tacit crystal]

yeah i cba now because im going to play powerful

and delete 3rd set

[minor gust]

Yeah I was doing it at first but was like this is dumb I really need BS for first set

[tacit crystal]

swordish can do more damage if he wants

[minor gust]

So I prioritized send ramp to not overcap

[hexed snow]

It feels so good knowing that I rerolled arms from fury

[fresh sundial]

Guys, can someone tell me - we use ms (mortal strike) every time if it out of cd?
Except execute with 3 marks and overpower with 2 stacks

[hexed snow]

But fury is the go to mythic raid spec

[halcyon breach]

More or less yes

Obviously more nuance than that, but pressing MS on CD is rarely gonna be a bad play

[tacit crystal]

banezi

play ravager slayer

now!

[halcyon breach]

no

[fresh sundial]

Ty ty

[minor gust]

Opportunist coming in to fuck your brain up

Me hard wired to hit MS

[tacit crystal]

bro

[halcyon breach]

Not tracking opportunist helps that

[tacit crystal]

opportunist is so weird on ravager

im legit sitting on it during execute

because im never below 85

and i forced myself to not press ms with eb

[minor gust]

Based Banezi

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1308425300056477696/ujDOV.gif

[tacit crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/get-blown-up-dog-dog-explosion-sticky-notes-gif-17071604041793579031

[naive sage]

Your raid comp is very important

You could go full arms and focus on the boss while other specs stronger on aoe can focus the adds more

[azure basalt]

During execute phase, do we still need to hold execute for mark of execution stacks or we just send execute all the way to get that juggernaut stacks

[tacit crystal]

2

[minor gust]

I would check out a rotation guide cuz you are way off on what exe phase should look like

[tacit crystal]

^

that too

[shadow ibex]

I just ignore opp during rav yea

Buff tom and imagine the str with ravager exe

[silk bloom]

wtf is oppurtunist

[magic canopy]

Slayer hero talent middle right side of tree

when you proc tactitian to gan an additional charge of overpower to use it does bonus dam

with our tier set and buffs going into this season it does a lot of dam

[silk bloom]

oh yeah i know what that is

is that something we need prio over ms?

[teal fossil]

Refer to prio

[shrewd quest]

How can I throw a more mortal strike?

Looking at my logs, I throw half of what other warriors throw in the same fight time.

[low elk]

press it whenever it's up

[shrewd quest]

its always happen in raid

[low elk]

if it's not up, press OP, if OP not up press slam

unless you have exec ofc

[shrewd quest]

ok thank you

[low elk]

I tried macroing slam to execute but sadly that's not possible

it should be baked into 1 button because it basically is the same button

[thin galleon]

you probably arent casting MS on CD, and maybe overusing rage so you cant afford it when it is ready

always have 30 rage ready for MS

and probably over 60

because it can give free resets

[teal fossil]

Paid resets

Tbh

[teal fossil]

Yeah general opinion is that cleave=ms and slam=execute in functionality

[low elk]

well cleave and Ms are different, you might prefer prio dmg in some scenario like in trash before last boss brew

[dim basalt]

Unless CD is stacked

[low elk]

but slam and exec could be the same button and it won't ever be an issue

[teal fossil]

Cleave is literally just Ms that splashes

Lot of people asked for cleave talent just make ms do cleave damage on the side

[low elk]

why stop there, make lightning bolt do chain lightning too

no dude, there's supposed to be different buttons for different types of dmg

[thin galleon]

make templars verdict function as divine storm

[low elk]

slam isnt that tho

[thin galleon]

they're both spenders after all

but unironically remove slam from the game

useless dogshit button from hell

[low elk]

yes pls

execute should simply turn into slam if/when/while execute itself isn't usable

[rare kite]

slam only feels bad because getting tactician procs isn't satisfying. when tactician reset cs pressing slam didn't feel that bad

[low elk]

it feels bad because it takes a keybind spot

and it doesn't deserve one

to me at least

[rare kite]

okay and why does it feel bad to have it take a keybind spot?

like when you get a tactician proc from pressing slam, it should feel good no? but it just feels like relief, you don't go "fuck yeah i got a proc". coz you expect to get the proc it does not feel good. therefore slam feels extra shit

[teal fossil]

Tactician is also too common now

[rare kite]

exactly. imo we press overpower far too much

[low elk]

from slam its a relief but from OP it's not a relief

[teal fossil]

Slam actually does very good damage

For what it is

There’s always going to be a worst button

[icy mulch]

They could just drop slam all together and reduce the cool down of both MS and cleave.

[shrewd quest]

I uploaded my logs to the help channel in case anyone wants to help me give me a more detailed review

[rare kite]

i would rather them take a page out of cata arms. slam somehow doesn't feel bad to press there and overpower feels good too. overpower probably because you know it's consistent. getting a cs reset feels great as well, i am not saying to fully make it like cata arms. as cata arms has problems as well, but it has some great parts

[icy mulch]

That's because OP was just free damage. Slam was a filler that actually hit decently hard. The rest is CS resets and blasting.

[teal fossil]

Slam does 60% of ms at current tuning

Anyone on right now to confirm that statement for me

[potent fossil]

someone make a decision for me rq

i just got my essence of kajamite from 2k io, i currently only have 3 set, my only options for tier are champion track 645 helm and legs

[eager sigil]

farm a hero item

[potent fossil]

do i wait for vault to see if i get a hero track or do i just get my 4 set now?

[thick kelp]

farm hero

[potent fossil]

ok ty

[thick kelp]

from keys

[icy mulch]

6s drop hero track.

[potent fossil]

ok perfect that was my next question tyty

[eager sigil]

farm + 6 rookery

drop helm and legs

[potent fossil]

epic ty gamer

[icy mulch]

Decently small loot table for Arms loot as well.

[potent fossil]

I play both dps specs rn, fury for raid, arms for m+

both are in solid places

[icy mulch]

Yup, same here. Sometimes have to talk as well. Which reminds me, I need a new shield.

[olive nest]

Talking is the best innit

#news message

Legendary!?

[eager sigil]

cloak crafters in shambles

[olive nest]

Good thing my cloak is only runed

[potent fossil]

man speaking of 2k io, this is legit the best 2k mount they've ever done

this thing is sick

[rare kite]

idk. i genuinely think the biggest flaw arms has right now is being so centered around overpower

another massive flaw is juggernaut highrolling, but that one is slayer specific. tho ofcourse juggernaut just feels bad in general, 15 stacks what the fuk

[olive nest]

I had to move op to 2 and Ms to 3 to save my ring finger nerves

[thin galleon]

god dont get me started on juggernaut

[olive nest]

Think I need to shift them more to the right for index finger

[thin galleon]

love it when I drop my 15 stacks at 35.5% of the boss HP

really based and skilled gameplay

[olive nest]

Rip hands boomer life

[shadow ibex]

OP got nerfed

Well talents

[pliant kindle]

Playing with slayer battlelord build is so bad in m+? Because i just want to spin with bs and the colossus build have a "slow" gameplay

[shadow ibex]

But now we're back to DF OP

[rare kite]

yeah tho i suppose a decent part of it is just too many tactician procs. imo they never should have put tactician on overpower

[teal fossil]

What else would they put it on though

[rare kite]

cs

[teal fossil]

Can’t be ms

Well then we just go back to legion arms

I’m ok with it being a CS like button

With current cs still existing

[rare kite]

yeah, legion arms without legion mastery would be great

[serene thicket]

Overpower on mouse wheel down

[teal fossil]

Cs would have like a 80% uptime in that case

So we just lost a cd for no reason if that’s the case

I think legion arms has to have legion mastery

And tuned accordingly

[rare kite]

hmhh the problem then is you do no damage in aoe without warbreaker. coz you would have to separate cs and warbreaker for cs tact to work

[olive nest]

I personally don’t want cs tactition back

I enjoy it being an impactful button

[rare kite]

it felt like an impactful button then as well

[olive nest]

I mean yeah it did

You just hated when it wasn’t active

I guess in a round about way that’s still the same now

Kek

[rare kite]

yeah, but i think that was because of arms mastery

with current mastery it would feel great imo, but i guess we'll never know

[icy mulch]

Juggernaut just feels super limited and some what RnG.

[teal fossil]

Yeah fried dopamine receptors

It’s like demon form for dh

You don’t feel good when it’s up you feel bad when it’s down

[olive nest]

True true

I had wicked good rng yesterday on mugzee, had 15 jug stacks by lust phase and then we wiped

Next pull we kill and I got ice once and all of the add pools

Fml

[balmy kindle]

am glad i dont prog mythic, juggernaut is miserable

[lean geode]

df s2 fury reck

[dire hinge]

Gross!

[lusty arrow]

Am indecisive, sure this is asked a lot, nelf vs void elf? meld seems pretty nice if I remember to use it

[dire hinge]

Personal choice really

[thick sierra]

Pick whatever cooler to you

Unless ur omega sweat for keys

[rare kite]

if caring more about raid void elf. if caring more about m+ nelf

[thick sierra]

Then u play dwarf

[thick kelp]

D:

Horthmar doesnt promote gambling

[dire hinge]

It’s not gambling if I know I’ll win 🥰

[zinc yacht]

How much does sweeping strikes matter for demolish? It already hits aoe, but does ss empower that or something?

[halcyon breach]

The first 2 hits are affected by SS

[thick sierra]

1 big boom compared to 5 big booms

[halcyon breach]

Since they're technically ST hits

The last hit doesn't get affected

[thick sierra]

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

[zinc yacht]

Ahh okay, that makes more sense then! Thanks

For some reason my brain just ignoired the other hits, but they also do quite some damage

[halcyon breach]

It's certainly a non-zero amount

[zinc yacht]

So in turn, when ss is on cd, it's not worth delaying demolish in a big pack, correct?

(I assume yes)

[halcyon breach]

Correct

[olive nest]

Don’t sleep on the Udks!

They’ll gap by like 2M easily with good tank

[latent moss]

first 2 hits are big on demolish

[quasi torrent]

cat

[granite haven]

Any good intro guide/video that goes over Arms in M+, just runs through rotation procs etc..?

[halcyon breach]

meow

[remote ledge]

I have an arms question for my arms enthusiasts out there
Let's say my #1 prio ability is MS. MS is on cooldown but there is less than a gcd of time left, (no opportunist nor SD conditionnal) should I spend a global and delay ms, or stay idle for less than a gcd and use ms asap

[elfin kindle]

is there a way to get embelishment without spark but lower ilvl?

[turbid plinth]

Yea craft with the lowest crests

Enchanted weathered undermine crest, think it goes to like 629?

[olive nest]

I’m not sure what the technical best answer is but I believe waiting half a global isn’t the end of the world but I know myself and I spam the next prio button in line the entire fight so I don’t really wait half globals ever

Maybe I’m playing poorly because of that

So far I haven’t felt rage starved ever so must be somewhat ok to spam

[rapid bronze]

is the amorphous relic trinket trash?

[halcyon breach]

Yes

[elfin kindle]

Still needs a spark, how do i make it work?

[halcyon breach]

You don't craft the epic items

You use the lowest crests on the blue items

[elfin kindle]

ah, thank you

[remote ledge]

I might be overthinking but I feel like losing many MS casts by doing this, I have no clue

[olive nest]

What your saying makes sense yeah

Delaying half global on Ms 20 times in a fight and all of sudden you realize how many Ms casts you missed

Probably good to wait honestly just thinking about it

[remote ledge]

I'll try lurking around tonight and ask the question again if any big arms man is here

[olive nest]

Best to ask walhe or Krispy since they do a lot of the apl work for sims

[shadow ibex]

You should have known if you can afford that slam before it would delay something

Ms and slam is 50 rage so you should know well ahead I can slam and MS before ms would reach half a global

[olive nest]

If I understand his question correctly
I believe he’s saying is it best to wait .5 seconds for MS to come back up to be able to send it asap or should you spend the global thus delaying that MS

[shadow ibex]

And even a half delay would require multiple delays to add up to a single MS

It's not frequent enough that youd miss casts unless you are starving rage and can't send it when ready

But that's another issue with starving yourself

[remote ledge]

Slam exists, overpower also exists

[olive nest]

So like this
SD conditions are not met
One op charge available (no opportunist)
50+ rage
MS is .5 seconds away

Do you op/slam/wait for Ms?

This is the question I believe

[remote ledge]

I guess you get the extra damage if you overpower but delay ms, idk I just want an easy solution I don't really have arms flow yet

[remote ledge]

Yes, but could be anything else than Ms, could be overpower instead of slam, question is about delaying ms

[shadow ibex]

Always be casting

Unless it would starve

[olive nest]

Yes I included op for context

[olive nest]

That’s what I originally said yeah it feels best to always be spending but I’m not sure if there’s a technical answer to that

[remote ledge]

So it doesn't matter than you delay MS for example by casting overpower, just cast it on the next global and that's it?

[shadow ibex]

I don't think the apl has any > X gcd remaining for any MS line

You'd have to delay that MS so many times for it to start costing casts and at that point you probably aren't following prio if it's so frequent

Further it's already quite comment to push back casts. Opportunist and then exe

You could MS OP OP slam get an OPP proc and pretty sure app OPs again here despite 2 MP stacks already

Pushing back ms a whole global not just half

[olive nest]

It’s feels weird during execute

MS>opportunist>exe>opportunist>exe>MS>opportunist

Big damage

[shadow ibex]

Yea

Very weird in exe but that's what I meaN MS gets pushed back

[noble oxide]

so is eye of kezan not worht using in M+ over equal ilvl pacemaker?

[olive nest]

Nah it’s good in raid where combat doesn’t drop

Hard to maintain in keys

[remote ledge]

I def need to play it more I feel like a robot when playing it, nothing's instinctive idk, it's not but i feel out of beat. Needs practice I guess

[noble oxide]

right

gotcha, thanks

[olive nest]

Glhf!

[lofty elm]

How long would you hold CS for avatar?

Or is it like never have avatar come off without CS up

[olive nest]

That’s so me right now
Been spamming MS on 1 with ring finger for years and I have no choice but to relearn the bind on 3 because hands bricked

Muscle memory is killin me 🤣

[lofty elm]

Sometimes with lust + procs I feel like you can have 3 CS between each avatar but delaying avatar 10/15s

[sly stirrup]

Arms' rotation in this expansion has pushed me so far away from wanting to play it. Ive always found fury to be more fluid but in keys it feels arms is just that much better.

[olive nest]

You can honestly play both in keys if you want to

Fury won’t do as much overall

But fury can pump bosses and lieutenants

Novix is doing what like 16/17 right now as fury

[sly stirrup]

ive continued to play fury but I need to learn arms cause i want to be a better player.

[olive nest]

I think you’ll be fine

Good to be able to flex the specs indeed!

[sly stirrup]

Part of it is probably keybinding. My keybinds are probably so all over the place so i need to find something efficient so im not wasting demolishers or im trying to figure out where one ability is for a few seconds and by the time i cast it, any buffs/procs that help it do high dmg is gone

[gilded basin]

just send it

[olive nest]

I like to put op on rb bind and ms on ramp bind

Makes it easy to flex for me personally

[sly stirrup]

i use and MMO mouse too so i usually put avatar, spell reflect, shockwave and kick on those.

[olive nest]

Never really worth delaying unless it’s for a specific damage amp phase or adds needing to die or something like that. Delaying costs an overall cast or two witch could be less damage overall

[sly stirrup]

Thats how my binds are. its just all over the place

[olive nest]

If it works it works binds are mostly preference honestly

[remote ledge]

My arms keybinds problem is binding cleave, cos my thunderclap as arms is my thunderclap as fury

And I feel bloated

[olive nest]

For me I think of TC as whirlwind for fury and arms I think of TC as rend

So I have TC on the rend/bloodthirst bind

And cleave on the WW bind

Works for now since we don’t have to use WW and cleave

[sly stirrup]

see but thats where it gets weird cause in keys you use TC to apply rend until you get to bosses that are single target then you just use regular rend. So are players like Critcake and Revvez using modifiers?

[olive nest]

<@&257983573498265600>

Obvious problem

Kek

Nobody’s crying you’re just in a public space

Don’t be a moron

[remote ledge]

I need to move slam, it's on a too good keybind

[shadow ibex]

Can we fix this

I'm on work wifi

[olive nest]

My slam is 4 right now for both specs it’s my least favorite button to move around

They’ll ban that guy as soon as they notice my ping

[shadow ibex]

<@&257983573498265600>

[remote ledge]

It's deleted, thanks

[ebon zephyr]

They already are writing you up to HR. They were watching your internet use and noticed you strangely kept scrolling up to look at the gif.

[olive nest]

😂

[hexed snow]

Overpower 1 Mortstalsteike 2 Slam 3

Ezpz

[shadow ibex]

1 is MS

[olive nest]

1 MS gotta change for me rip finger

How do I undo this muscle memory!?!?

Probably just suffer

[remote ledge]

From playing fury so much I put everything but core abilities on easy bounds. Thus switching to a spec with aoe abilities I'm cucked

[olive nest]

I have mmo mouse with aoe on 3/6

So for war that’s like roar/bs

[remote ledge]

I have one but binding actual rotational abilities to the mouse feels like terrorism to me

[olive nest]

Oh totally agree

Idk how people put spam buttons on mouse thumb

Feels so awkward

[remote ledge]

Some healer I know does it. Keyboard for healing, mouse to dps

[sly stirrup]

that would be the opposite for me

mouse buttons for healing and use mouseover macros

[remote ledge]

It works for him that's what matters

But the bloat is crazy I have demolish to shift A, what a stupid bind

[fresh spire]

feels weird but got to remember opportunist procs are something that helps aid procing set/maintaning set uptime, good rng you can sit on some decent haste for a while

[olive nest]

Feels so good to get 20% haste in execute

Very true

[fresh spire]

20% haste in BL execute on mugzee

[remote ledge]

So you'd also recommend no waiting for ms if it's less than a gcd cd left

[snow badge]

Probably a stupid question but is there a good WA to track all conditions for hitting execute?

[olive nest]

Yes actually

[smoky kayak]

#1237307732705415228

[olive nest]

https://wago.io/9n9GqeQ6-

Ahh yes arch beat me to it

KACHING

[snow badge]

thanks!

[jagged goblet]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-war-within-season-2-mythic-rankings-week-2-dungeon-participation-375981#comments

Once again we not getting invites

[olive nest]

Best solution is to make like minded friends

[gilded basin]

sweepings strikes uses me as "target" right?

[sacred zodiac]

the target finding of the second target starts from you yes

[gilded basin]

alright ty

[craggy burrow]

is it worth holding collateral strikes when a pack is getting near dead for next or is it better in general to just send and build another one on the next pack?

[thorn stratus]

Hey guys! Is this Trinket bugged? its not applying the debuff on the target kinda.. 🙂

[olive nest]

Carry it if you can, assuming it will align with wb/demo/rav on next pack

If it doesn’t I usually just send it

[craggy burrow]

gotcha. which cds should i be saving to use together as well? typically wb/demo line up in aoe, and roar/ava but they all tend to get a little desynced

is it worth holding for 10ish sec to realign? or just send and let them realign between packs naturally

[olive nest]

For the most part just sending everything on cd is pretty good yeah

[craggy burrow]

appreciate it, i'll give it a try on this next key

[olive nest]

If you know you’ll get big value holding for a few seconds or into next pack then yeah do that to stack them

[swift crown]

@quasi torrent

[quasi torrent]

ratfang angle

[swift crown]

Sorry I pinged you

[thorn stratus]

Its working.. just not on dummys! ❤️

[swift crown]

Are you sure it isn't just not showing you the debuff

Ah

🐀 🦷

[thorn stratus]

nah.. its working on everything else.. but not on the non elite dummy

[sacred zodiac]

ratfangle

[wet crag]

how far behind slayer is colossus for M+? like if I went with some version of a prio-damage focused talent build

[proud remnant]

alot

[craggy burrow]

what

[minor gust]

No one is really playing Slayer in M+ but your welcome to try it out

[shadow ibex]

Slayer aoe sounds like the opposite of fun

BS does no dam cleave does no dam without colossus buff

Just pray you get reap procs

[minor gust]

to be fair slayer aoe is just colossus aoe but with BS instead of demo/rav

so its just worse kek

[swift crown]

And a lot less of a Cleave modifier

What even is it

[minor gust]

well see how fat of a BS buff well get on this tuning patch

[swift crown]

50% on average?

60%?

[proud remnant]

ya BS needs a massive buff

[sacred zodiac]

2 gorillion

schmidi log in ritzelkrämer

i need this zenith

[swift crown]

Ah no it's not that much

[shadow ibex]

At this point I'd take unhinged being rav only and just have bs fuck hard for slayer

[swift crown]

Colossal Might buffs OP not Cleave

[swift crown]

BRO

[shadow ibex]

Colossus has a base cleave buff

[swift crown]

I'm chilling at grandma's

Oh right

[sacred zodiac]

I hope ur having a pog frog time

[shadow ibex]

And crit dam

And 1v5

So it has 2 separate cleave buffs

[swift crown]

Yea I forgor about the base buff

[narrow flax]

not sure how i would sim this, but craft wise, do i just go cloak with embellishment now? even tho its hero and i still have champ pieces like neck ?

[sacred zodiac]

671 is vile sorry

[minor gust]

holy yeah

[sacred zodiac]

you can add crafted pieces to top gear and sim it that way

cloak is most of the time the wrong choice for you

[minor gust]

recraft ur wep to rank 5 dawg before you do anything

else

[sacred zodiac]

mythic wrist already was the wrong choice probably

[narrow flax]

weap is not crafted

[minor gust]

oh im blind

[swift crown]

Upgrade your wep dawg

Please

[sacred zodiac]

idk u have 5p you can just craft a mythic chest or smth

[narrow flax]

its what im focussing on now haha

4p

hands aren't tp

need some more valorstones for weap upgrade, which is what ill be doing this evening

and i was thinking neck, since its champ

but ill try simming

[coarse nova]

how long left on jugger before u refresh? when ur in full control

[minor gust]

can you even put dusk/dawn on jewelry.

[astral yarrow]

https://wago.io/9n9GqeQ6-/2

[narrow flax]

Simming wise seems neck is best, since my only champ pieces are shoulders (tier), neck and legs (tier), but i have legs on hero in bag, just no cata charge

[sacred zodiac]

should probs save the cata charge for a mythic item from vault

or from pugging first 2 they're pretty easy and have some good plate

[narrow flax]

mightve been better eya

then again not playing suuper hardcore

just playing with a friend, basically pugging everything

[coarse nova]

ty

[olive nest]

KACHING

[cloud crescent]

Hi guys! I’m trying to get intro Arms after gearing up with Fury in mind. How bad would it affect my dps playing with lots of mastery for a while (658 iLvl) Should I wait to get more crit pieces?

[shadow ibex]

Should be fine

[olive nest]

Can do well as arms in fury gear
But not so much the other way around

[cloud crescent]

Sounds great! Thanks, guys!

[pallid linden]

Anyone Got any Idea on how to make a macro that casts both warbreaker an ravanger ?

[tacit crystal]

not possible

or worth

[magic canopy]

theyare on the global

you cant

[gaunt owl]

i'm calling the police for illegal macro

🚓

[tacit crystal]

one piece

[gaunt owl]

two piece

[pallid linden]

is it posible to make that macro so I can use the same button on mutliple abilitiys or dosent it go ?

[tacit crystal]

no

how are you missing keybinds

[pallid linden]

old habbits tryed whit new keybinds an it dosent work for me

[unkempt wren]

Just gotta practice them. Muscle memory is great but sucks to build

[minor gust]

Highly recommend an MMO mouse if you need keybinds

[rancid solstice]

You can use castsequence macros but I’d only do that with abilities that have the same or no cooldown, and even then it can create bad habits and sometimes input lag or w/e can cause a castsequence macro to fail and you’re boned for that pull

MMO mouse if you’re in a position to get one is the play

[minor gust]

You can get one for under $40 don't need anything crazy

[hexed snow]

I guess castsequence

[tacit crystal]

or just add like 3 binds

[minor gust]

Cast sequence macros are awful. Just shooting yourself in the foot

Just add more keybinds and go hit some dummies for a few hours

[hexed snow]

i mean... i dont think they are good aswell

[minor gust]

And build that muscle memory

[hexed snow]

But he did ask for a way to get multi cast in one bind

[maiden notch]

did they buff the demolishers in floodgate?

they shoot RPG's constant now

and dont reload

[heady marlin]

is the 2h weapon Machine Gobs Iron Grin good for arms? if i dont have the bis weapon from raid

[shadow ibex]

If it's the highest ilvl weapon you have access to its good

[heady marlin]

its the same ilv as I have now

[spiral coral]

Sim it

[rich ridge]

When r we gonna get buffed!?

[sacred zodiac]

you are not

[shadow ibex]

BS buff is otw

[light island]

I'm sure this question has an answer somewhere on here, so point me wherever if it exists already, but what kind of breakpoints/softcaps for secondaries are good for us this season? I've seen a lot of
30ish% crit
25ish% haste
30% mastery

[swift crown]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot

There is no caps and no stat %s to reach

[light island]

I get that there are no hard caps it's just usually you get diminishing returns at some point

I still sim everything for the most part anyways

Just wanted to know if there was like a general consensus

[swift crown]

The general consensus is generally more stats is more better

hope that helps

[light island]

Aight

[glossy tusk]

at 35% is there any class that beats the damage we gain from PI or no

[tacit crystal]

mage

monk

destro prob

[teal fossil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[shadow ibex]

Not loading for me but it's favorited so let me guess

Is it the stat breakdown?

[tacit crystal]

ya

[teal fossil]

unfortunately some specs just do more damage overall than us in execute

but it more depends on cds than anything

[tacit crystal]

idk

not giving pi to fire mage

XDDD

[teal fossil]

arms outside of cds may be worse in execute than another spec in cds

[tacit crystal]

you just lose a shitload of combusts

[teal fossil]

yea

but thats an exception

[shadow ibex]

Buff tom

[teal fossil]

this is fun to spam at the beginning of the season

[tacit crystal]

monk

racist class

wl too

[mortal rivet]

hows arms feel in m+? Only ever have played fury in m+ (do both for raid)

[olive nest]

Colo arms very strong

Cleave pipes

[mortal rivet]

The dumb question, is cleave basically = to slam in ST with colo arms?

[hexed snow]

Avatar at 12 on pull timer

[smoky kayak]

Slam is better, don't wanna waste OP buff on Cleave instead of MS

[stable fiber]

i think this is bad btw lmao

esp with lust on pull

[paper swan]

good day, is there a weekaura somewhere that i can look, got a hard time to figure it out

[olive nest]

What do you want a Weakaura for?

[paper swan]

help rotation cooldown something to help me increase my dps

[olive nest]

#1237307732705415228 message

Maybe one of these is what you’re looking for?

[thick kelp]

Send help

[tacit crystal]

doctor hes already gone

[olive nest]

So close

[lean geode]

krill issue

[paper swan]

Thx ill look into it , thx a lot

[mortal rivet]

oh good call, forgot about that. Macro time!

[thick kelp]

This is how the kill pull looked like

:)))))))

[tacit crystal]

🙂

you should see my sprocket and mug kills

its this every night

[lean geode]

Have you tried looking into the arms APL? Maybe reading up on the execute and SD conditions could help you maintain better juggernaut uptime

[thick kelp]

I even greeded till like 1-2s remaining

[smoky kayak]

if I had a penny for every top 10 parse wipe followed by a mediocre kill...

[rich ridge]

So never press cleave in ST?

[lean geode]

Sounds like you should stop wiping

[thick kelp]

kill pull was top 10 parse top cuz theres only 4 public ones

[lean geode]

Or maybe start wiping more so you can make a living off it?

[dim basalt]

heroic Gally

[smoky kayak]

real and true

[dim basalt]

But I never managed to line bs with adds

So only 2.4M dps

[thick kelp]

arms bs is fake anyway

to do aoe dam

[dim basalt]

Better than nothing

[thick kelp]

cleave

[dim basalt]

Taking Cleave on Gally is lowkey troll

[mortal rivet]

does the OP stacks on MS effect the bladestorm MS?

[lean geode]

Yes

[olive nest]

Nahhh bb for cleave

[lean geode]

Only the first one

[stable fiber]

you need lust on pull i think

[olive nest]

Ez aoe gains

[stable fiber]

or to hold the 3rd(?) or 4th(?)

im not sure which one it is

if u lust on pull u can usually send the bs and it lines up perfectly

[mortal rivet]

aw much less exciting

[stable fiber]

does cleave even do damage for slayer

[tacit crystal]

play ravager

[stable fiber]

that might be a play actually

on gally

[tacit crystal]

always been

[stable fiber]

ill try it tonight

[tacit crystal]

just hold ravager for cs next global

[stable fiber]

what do you drop then, deft or bloodletting for bonegrinder

both seem like you dont want to lose them

[tacit crystal]

you just play the st and play rav

[stable fiber]

ic

bb for cleave, then switch bs to rav

thats it

[tacit crystal]

no cleave fuck that

[stable fiber]

and pick up seismic reverb

wtf

[tacit crystal]

hit boss only

[stable fiber]

that was the whole point

[tacit crystal]

i doubt adds last more than 3 globals lmao

[stable fiber]

u just gotta be ready for it

lmao

[tacit crystal]

maybe

ive only played fury on gally

[neon socket]

with the SD conditions weak aura do we literally ignore execute till it pings?

[dim basalt]

yes

[old urchin]

There’s a WA for that?!

[cinder imp]

in Pvp, I noticed that shattering throw isn't being taken. Is it worth swapping around for it?

[merry kite]

does anyone know if there a cap on crit damage for arms im around 35% atm and about to craft some items

[terse plume]

does arms scale crazy with gear this patch? Im doing droptemizer and arms and furys values on certain items are almost comically in favor of arms lol like the gallwix ring is like 60kdps for arms vs 18k dps for fury from the same track

[merry kite]

who cares about fury xD

[terse plume]

I play both so me lol

[merry kite]

yeah i was just trying to be edgy never works

you sound like me simming everything and not even playing the game

[rare kite]

and you are wearing the exact same items for both? except fury has an offhand ofc

[knotty orchid]

2.6m overall ToP 10 seem really low

my DPS sucks

[zealous pivot]

does mortal strike really work on that last trash before boss in cinder

seen it mentioned a couple times

[sacred zodiac]

ye

[merry kite]

practice makes perfect, i dont even look at my damage until i get mechanics. by then your know when to press cds and smash

[zealous pivot]

kinda shocked i havent done it by accident with ms sweep

[sudden fox]

Whats ms meant to do there?

[zealous pivot]

keep them from full healing

or so ive heard

ive also heard the low one can be taunted across the room

[sacred zodiac]

its probably not worth your effort unless ur like pushing wf keys

[zealous pivot]

maybe true

but i like doing cool tech to make people aware woyers can do cool stuff

raising awareness 1 pug at a time

killing the 2 shitters by the door and doing the collat pre key cheese right there is huge too lol

[slow saddle]

Well 1st q what did the other ppl do?

[knotty orchid]

one druid did 1.9m overall

I was the top DPS

but still I think I should be doing more

[slow saddle]

Did u time it?

[shadow ibex]

Top has a lot of smaller pulls

[zealous pivot]

you would have done less if the others did more

[slow saddle]

If u were top dps. And u timed be happy

[slow saddle]

Not rly

[chilly coyote]

I find it being the other way around mostly

[slow saddle]

Same

[shadow ibex]

There's only so much health in a key

[slow saddle]

Unless it dies suuuper fast

[zealous pivot]

what schro said

[shadow ibex]

Everyone doing a ton doesn't magically create more mob health

[slow saddle]

Its dmg per second

[knotty orchid]

yep

[slow saddle]

So more seconds less dmg?

[knotty orchid]

maybe

[slow saddle]

If shit dies inside cds and dungeon goes faster

[shadow ibex]

There's only so much damage that could be done to the mobs you pull

Because they have health bars

[slow saddle]

Ofc each key lvl has a limit

[knotty orchid]

the other 2 dps damage on bosses wer abysmal LUL

[slow saddle]

So unless u can do that number as a grp

[shadow ibex]

If someone does more to the health bar than you, the amount of damage you can do to that health bar is lower

[slow saddle]

Its irrelavant

Mobs have x health takes good grp 30 seconds youre grp 50 seconds even if u did more dmg yaself i. 50 seconds ya dps might be lower

[shadow ibex]

Not if I'm doing most of the damage in the 50 second

[slow saddle]

Ofc, but u are capped and cds run ouy

[shadow ibex]

If I'm doing 60 or 70% of all the mobs health as a dps in one pull vs 25% or 30% it's going to be better

[zealous pivot]

you're losing stacks between alot of pulls in top

as well

[slow saddle]

Y top is a horrid dungeon as arms

[zealous pivot]

idk about horrid per say

[slow saddle]

True

[zealous pivot]

a large amount of specs do worse

cause our st isnt total beans

[chilly coyote]

dungeon is just long

in every sense of the word

[shadow ibex]

Love doing every duel

https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5fecb5fa60488f2e470efd74/2x.gif

[civic path]

hey fellow arms

any WA for the winning streak ?

[stone saffron]

8/8 champ track mechano-Core Amplifier is simming higher for me than a 6/6 hero Seaforium pacemaker. 8/8 Eye of Kezan is my other trinket. Is this normal or is amplifier a sim trap?

[eager sigil]

no its one of the best trinkets rn

[stone saffron]

Thanks, felt like I was going crazy a bit

[calm isle]

Hey, new to Arms, i've been told to stack crit to the roof, is there a level it drops off and haste becomes better?

[terse plume]

dont worry to much about specific stats, just sim gear upgrades to see whats best in top gear on raid bots

[calm isle]

Yea that's what iv'e been doing, just kinda hoping there was an outline for my enchants etc to haste or keep on critbanging

❤️

[terse plume]

sims for that too, though enchants as long as your not trolling with non dps choices are very very small

[calm isle]

Yea, im in a DPS battle with another arms warrior in raid, every number counts!

[upper pumice]

hi guys, did anybody do some testing with that Grim Codex trinket? is recommended in archis guide but not listed in the tested trinkets.. i just found it and was wondering (sim is running in the background already...)

sims on ST -10k dps and on MT -42k dps against other setup (mark of khadros 639ilvl)

[lost surge]

u guys use cyrses ring ?

or ring from endboss

[upper pumice]

dont think ring from endboss is available to many of us 🙂 i use cyrce

[lost surge]

i have the ring from theater and endboss ring and i ont know if cyrces better then both of them

[upper pumice]

did you sim?

[lost surge]

nope

i just got the ring

[upper pumice]

i think most of the experienced guys here will just ask you to sim it

[sacred zodiac]

sim it

[lost surge]

ok will do it thanks

[vital canopy]

how come guides say flask of alch chaos instead of flask of swiftness if haste is such a high prio stat?

[sharp wyvern]

chaos gives more overall stat

but you can also sim different flasks
if your haste is giga low maybe its better

[tame moth]

Chaos also makes your tempered pot give more stats

[proper arch]

[eager sigil]

[glossy tusk]

i beat mage and boomie can i get applause

[upper pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-gif-16062267483909963763

[craggy burrow]

why do the talents builds for m+ take strength of arms over dreadnaught? just because of colossus value with colossal might?

[real robin]

New to arms. Am I the only one who can't stand sweeping strikes being on the gcd? It feels so awful. I can't believe warriors aren't rioting over this.

[bold granite]

it does less damage

[upper pumice]

++

[glossy tusk]

was litteraly screaming about this today

[glossy tusk]

thank you 😄

[latent moss]

smoother rotation

on sims they are very close and soa plays better

cleave>ms>op prio is a lot less clunky

[tulip rose]

do we hold CD's to line up in M+ for colossus or just send them when they come off CD?

[craggy burrow]

heard, thanks big man

[half flame]

what are the best double passive trinket combos for this week's affix since it desyncs so hard?

[unique bridge]

What's best alternative to running skullsplitter on arms ST?

[fathom shoal]

u dont run SS on st

anymore

[unique bridge]

for colossus I mean, colossus ST

[latent moss]

finishing blows

sks is dead

its worse than finishing blows

and feels bad to play

[quasi torrent]

skoos

[sweet quartz]

so if sim are correct funhouse lens and mechano-core are simming better then any other trinket at hero that normal?

[shy dagger]

I just killed underpin ??

That was fun

Annoying but fun

[paper pine]

Better or worse than zekthir ??

[shy dagger]

Zekvir took me 200 trys

[paper pine]

Also what ilvl are you? 661 but haven't tried yet myself

[shy dagger]

Underpin 65

658

[paper pine]

Not bad then ty

[shy dagger]

The fight is more annoying than zekvir

But not as punishing

[bold granite]

god I fucking hate Stix

[balmy kindle]

Yes

[rose matrix]

Is there a target range where you'd still use mortal strike over cleave during ss? Like 3-4 targets maybe?

[lethal acorn]

At 3 you kinda use whichever one resets first, 4 I'd say cleave

[strange perch]

is bonegrinder window something we need to react to or just continue on with our aoe rotation?

[minor gust]

Doesn't really change anything you still cleave on cd

[brittle fiber]

What level was brann

[shy dagger]

48

[brittle fiber]

Hmm

[shadow ibex]

im starting to lose faith in mbg

even APL only gets like 3 casts in the window

obviously its just rng

but we have no other good place to put a capstone talent point

[minor gust]

Describe warrior in 2 words bad capstones.

[shadow ibex]

bad class tree bad spec tree

bad resource

bad execute is a new 1 since nerf ig

i was thinking what i could even drop if no mbg since 3/4 buff cleaves for a whole talent is whatever

but your other options...dont exist

none that increase dmg in a way that would be fun. good luck sniping fatality stacks

[minor gust]

Non existent rage management is so stupid when you randomly rage starve yourself due to good/bad RNG and you just feel like an idiot

[shadow ibex]

its p much why i run 1 fb and 1 bb

instead of 2bb

i think bloodusrge > FB for rage overall but i dont need rage in aoe really just need it in ST occasionally

[minor gust]

Even still it can happen

[shadow ibex]

yea

i might try bloodsurge cuz i have starved with insane reset luck

blade master eats rage

cleave X cleave X is expensive the moment X is mortal strike resets

[minor gust]

Your spending 95% not caring or giving a shit about rage then outta nowhere you get tons of EB procs or no tactician procs while spamming slam and then bam suddenly your not getting rage to do anything

Rarely happens but still so stupid when it does

Gimmie back my reck on cs

[shadow ibex]

let me have both torments ffs

[blissful pagoda]

what up y'all, just a question I'm pretty new to arms and I'm trying to improve. I just want to know if I'm tripping or all my cooldowns are always out of sync. Can anyone help, thank you

[shadow ibex]

our cooldowns just misalign

avatar is a hard 90 sec CD and our other CD is CS that will vary depending on rage

[warped idol]

wait

are you supposed to only use overpower as filler?

im watching critcakes new video hes only using it when he doesnt have anything else to throw

i thought u were supposed to get a stack before cleaving

[sudden fox]

On st or

[minor gust]

Cleave on cd

[shadow ibex]

pretty much send everything on cD

OP when MS and cleave cant be used

[minor gust]

Anything you do in-between cleaves in AOE doesn't matter

Press ms or op who cares

[shadow ibex]

i think some prio OP over MS in aoe but i like MS over OP to get more demo CDR

but yea it doesnt matter

as long as cleave is on CD the other button doesnt matter

[warped idol]

aaaand

whats the execute priority?

for aoe

[shadow ibex]

dont use exe

if you ver MS OP and cleave on cooldown you can

[minor gust]

Colossus M+ just treats exe as a slam replacement

[shadow ibex]

but honestly probably more dps to tclap and reapply a rend that mighta fallen off lmao

[warped idol]

cool

im guessing im losing ST dps on bosses

cuz i try to do double stacks MS

[shadow ibex]

nah dont worry about stacks of anything as colossus

send MS on CD

[blissful pagoda]

oh okay makes sense thank you!

[shadow ibex]

you dont need MP or EP

[minor gust]

If your still running EP I would switch off it for BB or bloodsurge

[shadow ibex]

the EP trap

free yourself from those shackles

[warped idol]

honestly im just more literate as fury

i know close to nothing for arms

but yeah it seems im screwing my priority

trying to reinvent the wheel

[terse plume]

funnily enough arms got easier this patch

[warped idol]

when it seems to i just need to send everything on cd

[terse plume]

since slayer no longer uses the skull splitter

[shadow ibex]

most of your damage is just your buttons

there's no dps window to fuck up really

if you are using MS on CD in ST youre doing like 65% of colossus right

[terse plume]

and alos with the WA for tracking SD usage that makes things worlds easier

[shadow ibex]

if you are using cleave on CD in aoe youre doing like 80% of colossus right

[terse plume]

as thats about the only thing to really optimize

for raid sry lol

should have specified

[warped idol]

yeah let me ask you a few questions for raid now that i got you

the execute usage is 2x execute then MS?

or should i just MS and use exec as a slam replacement

[shadow ibex]

the raid exe prio is completely different than colossus m+ prio

[warped idol]

im doing 2x exec OP MS

[shadow ibex]

you gotta play around opportunist and EP

[minor gust]

Any of the guides in DPS FAQ will have execute prio list

Recommend checking that out

It's not as simple to just exe exe op ms every time

[stable fiber]

damn it

i think its on use trinket diff

thats my cope

[minor gust]

[sleek crow]

how much do trinkets effect your dps?

im still rockin heroic sacbrood

[stable fiber]

quite a bit

also heroic sacbrood is like

really bad

lmao

on use on a boss like cauldron of carnage is easily way better than a energy drink for me

[open ingot]

Sacbrood is probs dragging your dps by 100k or so

Just get floodgate trink

[sleek crow]

i havent managed to find another trinket

and its not for a lack of trying

[open ingot]

Seaforium pacemaker try for that

But yeah it will be hurting you a bit

[shadow ibex]

still using mark of khard

its p good

but also luck has been shit

[open ingot]

Just gotta try for signet

Yeh feelsbadman

[shadow ibex]

was downgrade

[open ingot]

Huh?

Really signet is?

Cause i had mythic khard and replaced with hero sig

Was a gain

[minor gust]

dont overthink things just sim and trust the robot

[light dirge]

such cool active trinkets but the most popular trinkets always turn out to be stat sticks

[open ingot]

Yeah the activate damage trinks just seem to be eh at least eye of kezan is kinda cool i guess

For a passive trink

[light dirge]

i get it throughput and numbers blah blah but i wanna press a button and have a cool thing happen

[shadow ibex]

i might do some delves tonight

and try to get anothe rpassive

[open ingot]

Is mechano still good

Thought it got nerfed

[minor gust]

still good but who cares

not good enough to warrant touching the garbage that is delves

[open ingot]

The weekly to do 5 delves

Aint no way

[shadow ibex]

atm

[open ingot]

Its a shame khard lines up nicely with avatar

[rare kite]

Slap on the wrist nerf

Didn't even nerf the first part of it. Only 2nd

[shadow ibex]

avatar is the realest

[bold granite]

BIS + House of cards is fuckin annoying

[minor gust]

Wouldnt know cuz theres no reason to use BIS until you get it on Mythic unless your playing fury

[quartz fox]

ok This might be a stupid question
But
How often are we using execute in the Mythic plus Colossus build.....???
At the moment i either have a OP or MS almost always up on bosses for example... i find myself BARELY using execute.... am i doing it wrong ?? lool

[bold granite]

stix, playin fury

[shadow ibex]

nah

execute just isnt worth using over OP or MS

[quartz fox]

yea thats what i thought

[minor gust]

cards with cds and then bis with your next reck just vibe

[shadow ibex]

p sure in pvp slam does like x2 exe dmg

tooltip

[quartz fox]

Sooo atm for keys execute is barely worth even using

[bold granite]

use condemn

[shadow ibex]

yes

atm execute is pressed very rarely

in keys

[quartz fox]

perfect thanks
sooo im not crazy haha

[cunning violet]

no context Priory +10 two chested im trying out arms how are arms overalls relative to Retri pals? I know without context this means nothing but just for funsies

for the record I know im doing hella shit wrong I feel like I should do more dmg

im too fury brained to comprehend the intricacies of the arms rotation just yet

this the spread

[lean geode]

Me when cleave > MS > OP

Very challenging rotation

Idk looks pretty normal though

[open ingot]

When is cleave a damage gain is it 2 targets

[lean geode]

Enhance running it down a bit

[lean geode]

Looks like cleave is above exe and slam in 2t but below MS and OP

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/ActionPriorityLists/warrior_arms.simc#L199

[open ingot]

Ahh k cool looking to pick up arms a bit myself

[shadow ibex]

Yea should have more dpr than exe even with sweeping

Cleave I mean

[lean geode]

HOLY dpr

Imagine needing to consider rage economy