arms

[olive nest]

well kill the boss once and extendo more than likely

[sturdy flicker]

We got some prog sunday. And my thought was embellishing wrist and weapon was bus till we get one armed bandit weapon. Is that not true lol

[halcyon breach]

Warrior is arguably one of the best to give a House of Cards to

Your CDs will always align with it no matter what

[olive nest]

yeah tell that to my guild who gave the first THREE to casters

[dim basalt]

Sure but theres still a billion specs that want it too

[olive nest]

fuck me...

[dim basalt]

And if youre "unlucky" and got lots of loot before house of cards drop

you aint getting it

[halcyon breach]

Shrug

I was the first in my guild to get the HC House

Over anyone else

[dim basalt]

Im playing with ara egg + eye of kezan and I gotta admit

[olive nest]

ye smart guild

its best on warrior

[dim basalt]

Playing without on-use is so ass

My burst feels weaker than it already is

[halcyon breach]

It very likely simmed better for other people, but I'd be in for every single boss, and it's always going to benefit me regardless of the fight

[edgy solstice]

For keys it's kinda griefing

[halcyon breach]

Warrior also just have quite bad trinket options

Where as other classes, in particular 2 minute specs, have great options

[edgy solstice]

No on use in raid is tolerable

[dim basalt]

Also feels grief tho

Especially on bosses like mugzee

Where exe phase kinda lines with avatar

• bl

[olive nest]

ive been getting PI during mugzee execute heroic

since its only heroic

[dim basalt]

I never get PI

[olive nest]

and it feels so damn good

xD

[dim basalt]

On mythic that would be good tho

[olive nest]

mythic im sure pi will be asigned ofc

[dim basalt]

Our dps during exe is just stupidly high

[olive nest]

but heroic i get it since im priests homie

:)

[dim basalt]

Like when exe phase starts on mug and bl is up youre averaging 3M dps for some while

Without PI

And hold 2.5M+ easily

[olive nest]

fuck... bro bdk just chain wiped to first pull in my 10 rookery and left

[dim basalt]

Whereas other specs hover around 2M

[olive nest]

wtf...

now i gotta fill this 9

rip

[olive nest]

ye were really good at execute

I think other specs do high execute too though

fire mage

[dim basalt]

Our dps is really cursed on that fight tho

[olive nest]

and maybe spriest?

idr

[dim basalt]

We dont have enough dps to fully push through before adds

So we have to do a dps stop

[olive nest]

oh yeah thats the worst

[dim basalt]

fire mage and warlocks ye

Our fire mage goes crazy with his 4p

Given that hes a fire mage otp tho

[devout pewter]

Sounds like fire mage is crazy good again?

[dim basalt]

Only if the player is good

And imo its harder to find a good mage than any other spec

[mighty lance]

Hey guys, i already got a weapon

where should i send my crafts

wrist and cloak?

[devout pewter]

So pretty much like always. You either have a fire mage that does barely anything or explodes the meters

[dim basalt]

yup

[dim basalt]

wrist / cloak / boots / belt whatever is your worst slot

[devout pewter]

Sim it (gear compare), did so myself yesterday and wrist cloak with dawnthread was around 10k ahead of wrist banding + weapon sigil

[devout pewter]

Ultimately, its not like you're gonna brick yourself crafting the wrong thing right now.

[elder iron]

How does Demolish CDR work?

[dim basalt]

When youre at 10 stacks but demolish is still on cd you get cdr instead of additional stacks

[slow saddle]

Get more crit

[dim basalt]

^ and crits = double cdr

[slow saddle]

Just played a key in low crit gear was a horrid xp

17%

[elder iron]

oh oki, tyvm

[devout pewter]

Imma get a critcake, heard they're very nice

[proud rivet]

is fury stronger than arms?

[devout pewter]

Depends on what, they're about the same, but arms pulls ahead in certain situations

[proud rivet]

but fury stronger st right?

[dim basalt]

Very slightly

[devout pewter]

Somewhat, yeah

[maiden notch]

Fury survives just more

While arms u actually can fall over

[hollow scarab]

Ofc, they can use 2 big weapons, arms only 1

[devout pewter]

I lfr last week my 630 ass arms kept up with a 645+ fury relatively easily on the King kong trex fight

But on the next pure st boss not so much anymore

[hollow scarab]

Arms slightly ahead on pure st

[dim basalt]

No

[eager sigil]

no

[devout pewter]

I wouldn't even say that. Arms is just as good in survivability, just gotta know your stuff

Just like fire mages dps haha

[hollow scarab]

Is it not? Could have sworn it did slightly more than fury.

[daring heron]

😳

[hollow scarab]

Yeah, but enraged regen is just better than dbts

[mortal rivet]

Fury still slightly higher survivability

[dim basalt]

More passive dr

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[scenic umbra]

Absolutely not , fury has a million more hp and heals way more with BT and wound

I moved to fury on the second in mythic bcs as arms I was struggling to survive

[rare kite]

anyone know if last boss rookery has like a can't be crit at parts of it? 77 ms hits, 6 of them crit. 22-25% crit(depending if trinket is active)

[shadow ibex]

Absorbs don't crit

Well they don't go in details as a crit I mean

[rare kite]

oh i thought that was raszageth specific

that's fine then if it behaves the same

[shadow ibex]

Same with golem in vault last tier

[devout pewter]

Undeniably fury has some, especially passive, tools that make it somewhat better. But I'm just saying that arms isn't the floor dps that it might look like with some people saying that.
For most people, both are fine enough.

[fathom hollow]

what do u get 2nd spark from

[compact kernel]

I've gotten like every weapon drop in the game so far. Imagine if those were actually useful drops 😦

[devout pewter]

Theres a quest in dornogal middle, where you upgrade your gear to set

[lofty brook]

windsinger the best to go even if legendary sim higher?

[humble frigate]

Go to where the catalyst station is, you’ll see the guy with the purple exclamation mark

[fathom hollow]

How do I get the other half of it

[devout pewter]

But i think people reported after youve done the quest you can't get the first half you were supposed to get this week

[humble frigate]

Pinnacle cache from the weekly (100 Titan disc one)

[fathom hollow]

ah i see ive done it, ty

i go hand it in

[devout pewter]

You can get it from basically anything really, or did they change that too?

[fathom hollow]

even white mobs?

[humble frigate]

Got 100 from running 3 of the t11 delves. I think you can do heroic dungeons quickly to get them as well. I did my weekly after I picked up the freebie and I still got the other half.

[devout pewter]

No, from "big" content. Like raid bosses and end chest of m+. I think even normal/hc bosses but not sure

[wintry arch]

I’m really disliking how arms feels. Especially in raid. Zero interaction with rage bar. Praying for SD procs

[daring heron]

🙂

[balmy kindle]

Just play colo in raid anyways, not that big difference unless it's myth prog

[shadow ibex]

Slayer playing ravager on rwf

Surely surely blizzard realizes arms is fucked

[balmy kindle]

Arms Bladestorm bad

[leaden cipher]

hey

any good reason to play this insted of house of cards?

[balmy kindle]

They don't conflict pacemaker is passive

[daring heron]

why not both

[shadow ibex]

Because it dropped and the other didn't probably

That's 1 reason to wear it

[daring heron]

at the end of the day, just run it through raidbots top gear

[rare kite]

not met a single person that enjoys the sd juggernaut highrolling

not a single person

[daring heron]

the only thing you feel when you manage to extend a jugg into actual exe is relief

[shadow ibex]

This rng masquerading as an actual spec

[wintry arch]

It is mythic prog

[balmy kindle]

My condolences 🙏

[rare kite]

play fury

[shadow ibex]

When jug is gone I wonder what it will feel like to play a spec not held down by shit from 2012

[wintry arch]

Yeah I’m going to. I enjoyed the easy swap to prot for tanking keys but I’ll just be a giga mastery tank

[balmy kindle]

Honestly yea at that point just play 2 ⚔️ spec

[rare kite]

i played giga mastery tank a few days ago in rookery. felt fine

was just an 11 tho

[wintry arch]

Awesome I can send my 2h craft now then as well

[sharp rivet]

just last check before use catalyst - we do go 2+2 tier right?

or do we wait for full 4p before switching?

[oblique oar]

am i crazy or is there a sound playing when we get a 4p proc?

[lean geode]

Sim it but probably don't cata for 2pc

In case you get tier from vault or raid

[lean geode]

There is yes

It's in game, not a weakaura

[oblique oar]

yeah i was going crazy trying to figure out if its a weakaura or not

[sharp rivet]

ah damn 😦 i didnt think of that and used one charge

i mean i wont raid any more this week - super casual guild. But vault is now def going to give me the item i just catalysed

[lean geode]

Well you better pray for your next vault then

[sharp rivet]

'

my guild is only 2 bosses in to hc - rest are normal

i thought we had to wait until NEXT week to get our second spark? I just got anotehr half from the guy next to the catalyst

so i have two sparks

[oblique oar]

people abused a bug/ somehow got a extra one

so now everyone gets it

[sharp rivet]

oh!

[unkempt burrow]

go pug hc raid myman pugged 6/8 HC

[sharp rivet]

hard to get a spot when your ilvl is low though

ah they just see ilvl in bags - i forgot that

if my guild is not going to mythic raid and im still a way from doing dungeons that drop a mythic item i might as well just make a weapon right?

[lean geode]

Yes

High ilvl weapon very poggers

[sharp rivet]

charged claymore here i come 🙂

[dense nimbus]

hey everyone.

got a question about pacemaker vs house of cards

sim says pacemaker is like -20k dps vs house of cards

is that generally correct or im getting smth wrong since i see most go for pacemaker

[rare kite]

pacemaker is farmable. house of cards is not, chances are they just haven't gotten house of cards

[muted tree]

what is better to craft bois claymore or axe?

for arms

[reef glade]

Which weapon doesn’t matter just make sure it has strength

then either whatever’s the cheapest or whatever you like the look of more

(charged halberd is the best)

[untold trench]

I make the one I don't already have as a mog

[hollow plover]

Cope

[reef glade]

The other 2 are literal like wq tmogs

[hollow plover]

Yerr

[muted tree]

crit haste right?

[reef glade]

Generally yea can sim some others if u want tho

[olive nest]

Dang my map gave me the garbage trinket

Mechano some day

[slow saddle]

Also u got 2 trinket slots so they dont compete

[slow saddle]

Same

I havent even found mechano, champion track

[eager sigil]

im rocking funhouse + pacemaker

[thick hamlet]

it's apparently from underpin only

[sacred zodiac]

your info is bad

[dense nimbus]

already have eye of kezan so

i dont think thats going anywhere

[quasi torrent]

eye of kezussy

[dense nimbus]

aye

[gaunt owl]

ay

[olive nest]

a

[slow saddle]

Eye sucks m+

[dense nimbus]

i dont do M+

too boring.

[hexed saddle]

based

[olive nest]

Bronin approves that message

[lean geode]

M+ mickey mouse game mode amen

[halcyon valve]

decided to run dreadnaught in a priory, did 6.1% of my overall, thats pretty decent

[slow saddle]

Problem is u wanna ms // cleave for cdr

So using op could be overall aoe loss

[gaunt owl]

missing out on the juicy Cleave or MS

OP is only the 5th wheel in AOE

[gilded basin]

is it worth to craft a weapon with second spark? i'd go and farm gilded crest for it but im mainly playing tank in raid and prot in m+

[stoic siren]

has anyone ever tried the pocket grenades embellishment

[quaint otter]

yes its shit

[stoic siren]

damn

i want to craft something but they are all so boring

[thick hamlet]

it's wowhead my guy

https://www.wowhead.com/item=234217/funhouse-lens

[quaint otter]

craft lining ?

[woven wasp]

underpin is the only delve that drops loots from a mob
have a look at the "contained in" tab

[lean geode]

I have gotten 3 funhouse lenses from regular delves 🙂

I've never even attempted underpin

[thick hamlet]

mvp answer, much love

it IS a really good trinket even at champion i believe

[lean geode]

No need to believe when sim will tell you exactly how good or not it is

[covert drift]

Guys will i get in trouble for changing the audio of skills for custom ones?

Meaning, can i get a false positive ban?

[south merlin]

Why wowhead says the grim codex is BIS trinket but in fact it is shit item to get

Shard is simming much much better in all means ST, AOE

[mild sierra]

grim codex is not good lmao

but there is like 1 viable m+ trinket

if u want trinkets do delves

[south merlin]

I got pacemaker
And now will be spamming delves

For the other 2 trinkets

[south merlin]

I know
Just I dont get why wowhead says it is M+ BIS

[mild sierra]

🤷‍♂️

[ivory heart]

What's the point of having Excecutioner Precision for Bladestorm ?

[dense nimbus]

you do MS within bs

[ivory heart]

oh, you're saying Bladestorm doesnt lock us out of using other skills...?

[dense nimbus]

no

read unhinged tallent

below bladestorm

[ivory heart]

Gotcha, thanks !

[cold kestrel]

y'all think we are in a position to get either buffed or nerfed?

or stay flat

arms pretty decent atm. but not top, that's for sure

[boreal quartz]

Arms cranks st in raid

Cranks in aoe

[tropic eagle]

I feel a sligh nerf

[cold kestrel]

talking about mythic + ( forgot to mention )

[tropic eagle]

but would be nice to not suck or be mid for a season

[cold kestrel]

i'll believe that when I see it 😛

[tropic eagle]

you literally asked

I answered

lol.

[gaunt owl]

🔮

[slow saddle]

I mean sev classes will also get nerf b4 warrior

[narrow flax]

xd

[edgy solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[slow saddle]

Fury crancks harder

[tropic eagle]

on ST? hardly.

[slow saddle]

Lol

It doed

[tropic eagle]

ok bud, whatever you say

[slow saddle]

Execute phase arms win

St fury sims higher

[untold trench]

So who wins on actual fight value?

[slow saddle]

Well fury does more.dmg, but if execute is the more important part of a fight. Id take arms

Fury still more tanky as well

[mighty bridge]

doesnt seem like either one is much better than the other

[tropic eagle]

arms beats ST fury any day... dont listen to this guy 😄

fury is better for overall the majority of fights in raid tho

[slow saddle]

U are living in season 1 m8

[tropic eagle]

ok bro

cool talk

[slow saddle]

Ok go find the sims to back t up

[tropic eagle]

I dont have to. I beat every fury

sim is sim real life is real life

there is also a literal breakdown or 2 on the internet with ST damage in raid and arms ranked 2nd

youre just ignorant and misinformed. Im done with this discussion.

[slow saddle]

Anectodal info i guess hm

[mighty bridge]

x is better than y because i beat them on the meter is kind of a bad argument

[tropic eagle]

there is a milion charts

he only has to look at them

[rare kite]

there is literally only 1 pure st fight in the raid

[tropic eagle]

thats not the question

the question is who is better on ST

[slow saddle]

I looked at 3 boss fights

[tropic eagle]

which ones

I hope it was Stix

the boss where arms is basically handicaping yourself and the raid

[slow saddle]

Gally, sprocket

[tropic eagle]

there is no reason to take arms on gally

unless for some reason you took so much cleave that the adds dissapear

so you looked at 3 bosses and you name 2

interesting

[slow saddle]

3rd was rik

But theres totems

[tropic eagle]

rik is a pure fury fight too

[slow saddle]

I mean

Dwpends on transition

[tropic eagle]

top 20 for sprocket... I wonder why arms domiantes a ST fight

oh right

cause its better.

[slow saddle]

Theres still fury

[tropic eagle]

you are a waste of my time. you believe what you want to mate.

[slow saddle]

1m longer fighr on the furu

[slow saddle]

If u feel thats a proper way to adress othet ppl. Gg

[floral ledge]

damn

priory 10

[bold granite]

Let us not tear ourselves apart in defense of fury my arms brothers

[reef glade]

Arms is like .5% higher st than fury and 50% more fragile who fucking cares what you play lol

sanest arms player

[tropic eagle]

dude. the guy asked who is better at ST

I answered.

[reef glade]

both are effectively equal

[dry summit]

Arms is because of execute

[tropic eagle]

[dry summit]

That’s how simple it is

[tropic eagle]

arms is

thats how simple it is. thats what I answered.

[dry summit]

I’m with you balg

[tropic eagle]

I dunno half the people here are challenged in some way

[dry summit]

We stand up to the masses bro

You and me

[reef glade]

I mean it’s just being so adamant about something so inconsequential

Yes arms is better yet fury is way tanker and easier to play

[tropic eagle]

I simply answered a question thats all

[dry summit]

Stop using fancy words bro

[reef glade]

ma fault

[tropic eagle]

someone tried to share incorrect information, thats when I got adamant.

[slow saddle]

Nah u got rude

[tropic eagle]

youre just soft

[reef glade]

Saying stuff like hardly

lol what

[tropic eagle]

take an L when you see it thats it

[reef glade]

it’s literally better until you get bis gear

Like 50k dps behind in perfect bis

[tropic eagle]

its currently better

that was the question

[slow saddle]

No

[tropic eagle]

why do you need to dissect it for 3 years

[slow saddle]

In bis gear?

[tropic eagle]

is it better? thats the question. Yes. thats the answer

[slow saddle]

Do u have bis? I sure dont

[tropic eagle]

anything else is theoretical

[slow saddle]

Bis gear currently is the theory no?

[reef glade]

It’s also the reasoning of “I beat every fury” like ok you play with bad furies lol

They are real even right now

[slow saddle]

Where as what ppl wear is thw realistic?

[tropic eagle]

nah I play with a guy that averages orange every season

[steep osprey]

Imagine a spec like UH dk exists while fury caps damage to 5 targets

fix game

[reef glade]

uh can explode

[tropic eagle]

UH sucks at ST tho

[steep osprey]

very big disparity

[tropic eagle]

DK dps is in a very bad spot

Maximilian summed it up pretty well

[slow saddle]

In raid mby. In keys no?

[reef glade]

Don’t think there’s any dk in raid no

or they maybe get one for gally add gripping

[tropic eagle]

yeah he said it says something about the state of a dps spec when even with that awesome utility and mechanics that make a fight easier they dont have any in the group

they just cant push out dmg atm in raid

[steep osprey]

maybe in raid

no way in keys

and they'll keep buffing them in raid

and they'll get even stronger in keys

[tropic eagle]

yeah in raid is what Im talking about

they are really good in M+

[slow saddle]

Dno how they can tune uhdk to do both.. i guess nerf saylan, buff riders. While switchin more power into claw

[dim basalt]

Which you achieve by knowing your rotation... 🤔

[honest eagle]

is the 4pc a big increase in dps ?

[dim basalt]

A decent increase yes

[honest eagle]

nice

[dim basalt]

So only a fury war on mythic Gally

Kinda expected an arms but maybe thatll change

[shadow ibex]

arms was Op

needed to be nerfed

[dim basalt]

tru

I really hope this boss has a secret phase

And it seems like this race will go to Liquid again

Gingi looks really down

[quaint stream]

Any reliable gse profile that doesn’t suck pp?

[vague juniper]

New to warrior,a nyone got a WA that pings when an enamy is in execute range?

[tropic eagle]

you want a what WA?

do you really need that or are you trolling

[dim basalt]

no need to be rude

[wide pebble]

Not with all the add damage needed. And I fully expect as people become more geared and execute phases shorten in time, that fury will probably be the play on every fight

[dim basalt]

Nah mug will definitely stay an arms boss

[wide pebble]

Yeah that’s probably the only one

[dim basalt]

And Im sure that sprocketmonger is still better for arms even tho we didnt see one there

[gaunt owl]

more gear means adds will melt faster too

once prog is over we never know what nerf on boss will look like

[wide pebble]

True

[tropic eagle]

• class balances

[gaunt owl]

Fury would be so good on some boss if they didnt get shot in the pp hole

[wide pebble]

True. I have a bad feeling Demolish is gonna get nuked

[dim basalt]

Why would they nuke Demolish out of all things

[wide pebble]

Because Colossus Prot is broken

[thick hamlet]

a man must have a build

[dim basalt]

It isnt

[tropic eagle]

granted it does a lot of damage

[dim basalt]

The higher the key the less dps you can do as prot

[tropic eagle]

but its still not that strong

they would first nerf VDH than colossus prot

[dim basalt]

Ofc a prot can pump 3M in a +7 because theres literally no damage

[wide pebble]

Yeah, but remember, Blizz killed fury because of heroic raid logs lol

[dim basalt]

But in 12+ you really get shit on

[wide pebble]

So..

[tropic eagle]

yeah the higher the key the less effective prot war is

if MDI was happening right now you would MAYBE see a DK outside of VDH and thats it

[sand summit]

Quick question guys... Is there a different in using thunderclap to apply rend vs regular rend abllity?

[shadow ibex]

minor optimization

[wide pebble]

Rend does more ST, clap applies it as an AOE

[dim basalt]

• clap has slightly more range

[wide pebble]

It’s not really worth the extra keybind for rend when playing an AOE build

[tropic eagle]

if you are not parsing its irrelevant

[dim basalt]

Even if parsing its irrelevant tbh

Like its sooo minor

[tropic eagle]

but sometimes its more convinient to clap even on ST

[shadow ibex]

i just bind both

[vernal dome]

is the difference from old 4set to new 4set big in m+? if ilvl isn't taken into the calculation, i mean

i guess you feel it especially on bosses

[vernal pilot]

Hiya, I have a question.

I always hear to sim my gear for an answer if something is better for me or not. I just got a ring that is apparently simming better for me than the Circlet. Is this a sim trap or??
Archi's guide mentions that the ring should be BiS for the entire season unless Blizz nukes it.

[thick kelp]

blizz nuked it

[vernal pilot]

Ahhh, I wasn't aware :c

[severe carbon]

Why does Bronze quality darkmoon sigil ascension embelishment cost 50 k whilst silver quality cost only 3 k at Ah?

[oblique oar]

because why would anyone make a bronze one

[severe carbon]

Right… So confusing to me 😂

[clever lichen]

boys any good weakaura for BiS exist? all i got from wago is not workin

[eager sigil]

the quality doesnt change the embelishment

it just adds some craft difficulty

[lean geode]

Wolfdisco speccing colossus, pulling up boss damage after the wipe and being just barely above the tank, and instantly respeccing is such a mood

[chilly isle]

Because most people who craft them are high enough skill to not craft bronze quality, and nobody buys bronze.

[severe badger]

is crafting my belt vs bracers really that big off a difference? or is Belt more important to get from raid/m+?

[shadow ibex]

Bracers have lowest stat budget

So you lose the least overall stats

[severe carbon]

Any difference between crafting axe or sword?? (ima orc warrie) 😄

[shadow ibex]

But it's not going to make or break a character. If you got some m socket bracers you can just craft another slot

[rain cipher]

None

[proud rivet]

is arms getting nerfed?

[minor gust]

most likely not

[finite wasp]

doubtful

i think it will stay the same, just curious to see what tuning they come up with next tho

[minor gust]

we are on the strong side but very far from being an outlier

any nerf to happen would be pretty unjustified

[finite wasp]

And for once the season is actually balanced decently

[minor gust]

well prob see some WW nerfs tho

F for them for getting nerfed because of the raid

[finite wasp]

hmmmm its a little hard to say cause things seem alot closer

[grand idol]

In a game that heavily favors ranged dps it is always a little sus to me when they nerf melee.

[minor gust]

all the devs are mage and warlock players sooo

[nimble acorn]

5 players of the 20 man raid are monk lol

[thick hamlet]

nah it's getting buffed

hard

[grand idol]

Like on princess last tier I did all of our progression on my warrior and brought in my hunter I geared specifically so I wouldnt be melee on subsequent kills. It was hell for melee and on my hunter im standing still for 20-30s intervals. moving 2 feet then doing it again

[finite wasp]

monk is cranking in raid but what about m+ xd

but if i were to make a guess

[tulip stump]

if not really worried about raiding do we ignore ascension embellishment?

[finite wasp]

i think unholy might get batted

[dim basalt]

They crank there too

But you hardly see any monk because their playerbase is so small

And 90% of monks are probably MW lol

[proud rivet]

fr?

what r the buffs?

[safe thunder]

Is dungeons slice on raidbots good? or should jsut sim patchwerk with more than 1 target?

[lean geode]

patchwerk 1t and patchwerk 5t

[safe thunder]

ty

[thick hamlet]

no i lied

as an unbiased arms main, i don't think they should nerf it, but you never know

[oblique summit]

nah this shit wont be nerfed

I dont think so

its like the most fun I have had with arms to date

not having skull splitter is a big +

the rotation is straight brain dead though

[spiral coral]

I think all plate users rn are in a good spot and should be left alone

[nova marsh]

Me when I lie

looks at dk

[void bay]

no, nerf pink man

[fresh spire]

take rets dps

give it to dk

[lethal flame]

anyone know where I can find arms stats soft cap? I am looking for haste soft cap

[tacit crystal]

no

listen to robot

[keen arrow]

anyone elses sims telling them to get rid of circlet? Mine is saying use two 655's

but looking on RIO i dont see people with access to higher rings not using it

[lean geode]

Sounds like you should use two 655s then

Unless you're still using skipper instead of windsinger

[keen arrow]

ugh thats why. thank you

[nova marsh]

Guys is it bad to not have a wa for
literally evreything

[dim basalt]

everything?

[nova marsh]

Like

Should I have a wa just replace boss mods and uninstall evrey other addon?

[silk spade]

https://wago.io/hC5xUQatt

[quasi torrent]

ure not playing around this

stop

[shadow ibex]

[dim basalt]

Mostly a personal preference I would say, but theres usually a WA that does pretty much the same as an addon, or even better

[nova marsh]

Yeah. I got told since I just use WAs for class stuff I barely use them lmao

I love the internet, memeing is so fun

[empty kernel]

How come arms is better on keys like brew/prio?

[nova marsh]

Because arms loves mass aoe

Cuz colo

[empty kernel]

Is arms not target capped like fury?

[nova marsh]

We're soft capped

Fury's main sources are hard capped at 5

[opal mesa]

Hi there.. Need some advice on Arms.. What is an ideal opener for Colossus Arms in m+? I read somewhere that I should start with TClap, TRoar, Sweeping strikes before Ravager, WB+Avatar then Cleave/:OP/MS? What I don't understand is shouldn't we TR only after warbreaker?

[spiral coral]

Sweeping Stickers

[nova marsh]

that's it's new name now here

[spiral coral]

Has to be

Will never look at it the same again now

[minor kraken]

yo guys does the alchemist stone act as an embellishment?

[queen abyss]

Do I use cleave in ST with slayer?

[shadow ibex]

no

[queen abyss]

I didnt think so.

Slam right?

[shadow ibex]

yes

[queen abyss]

I never cleave not even with the 'Overpower effect'?

[sacred zodiac]

waste of martial prowess that could go on a mortal strike instead

[lethal stream]

@daring heron I have question in ex phase 2x ex 1 ex op 1x mortal ?

[lean geode]

Cleave during MBG is surely better than slam, at least if you don't have martial prowess stacks

[lean geode]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#execute

@ ing people with questions that are answered in the guide is sus

[tiny badge]

yo guys if i started this week am I just cucked or how do I see this, no 2 set this week cuz i get only 1 catalyst charge, only 2 sparks so can't even craft weapon?

I got the fractured spark quest but cannot complete it lol

[bold granite]

are we really using cyrce the whole fucking tier

[nova marsh]

probally not lmao

it's totally getting nerfed agian

[shadow ibex]

did stix as aoe colossus build with blademaster. still got a 94

this fight is so cursed

[bold granite]

i fucking hate stix

[shadow ibex]

i assume star points will be disabled

if not already?

[nova marsh]

tbh just me doing that fight on normal was enough to know I'd either hate it the entire tier or it's my favorite fight

No inbetween

[smoky kayak]

catalyst charges and sparks have built in catchup - you should have 2 charges just like the rest of us and you'll get any (non-quest) sparks you missed from doing regular activities like M+, weekly quests, raid bosses, etc

[smoky kayak]

when I checked last, Arms could replace it with a good M ring

[minor kraken]

guys quick question are dungeon slice sims working as intented for warriors?

[tropic eagle]

I use hectic add cleave

[dense vector]

Or a big bandit ring ?

[shadow ibex]

i feel insane for starting to like opportunist

[dense vector]

Don’t you just prio OP when it lights up basically

[shadow ibex]

yea its just a reaction

[dense vector]

Yea I like specs with procs

[shadow ibex]

i think its very thematic tho. being an opportunist and taking advantage of a quick buff

could do without the WA lag tho

[dense vector]

That op with 10 stacks of tier hits hard

Does it work with dread

[shadow ibex]

yea ive had pulls where OP was hardest hitting ability

but also no 4pc so no MS buff

[random coral]

is there a good way I could macro Execute and Slam into the same button so that I only use slam if I can't execute?

trying to move slam to a more comftorable keybind but don't wanna move anything else

[peak jacinth]

Speaking of which, isn't both the 2-4 piece set bonus .. basically passive? It builds on its own, I use OP often enough it's going to get spent whether I'm paying attention or not. The 4p, it's not like I need a Haste (or any) bonus to hit MS, you always send it. It's a TWELVEs window... I'm never going to go 12s without hitting MS. lol

So it's a big do-nothing, play as normal. Am I missing something?

ok ty 🙂

[shadow ibex]

just play normal

[brittle fiber]

anyone have some goofy colossus talent build for keys? or is it still this one

[lean geode]

Do you not use the insta one

https://wago.io/Q5KkvQ0m2

I can't imagine you've been playing arms for two tiers with the 500ms opportunist wa delay

[tiny badge]

I happen to sit on 1 spark, used 1 catalyst charge. Got the weekly quest open but unable to complete. Did every event, caches from tw, world bosses, delves. Where is my 2nd charge?

Could it be locked behind campaign quests?

[smoky kayak]

how did you get the first spark, from last week's quest?

and did you get the free half from the quest that popped up yesterday?

[tiny badge]

Well i mean i have 2 fragments combined.

Thats it

[smoky kayak]

yes, and I'm asking how you got them

[tiny badge]

No

Caches, i assume. I never raided

[smoky kayak]

so you didn't do last week's quest or the free quest yesterday, go turn those in

[tiny badge]

I did the worldsoul quests too

[smoky kayak]

you don't get sparks normally from raid, only catch up ones

you're not listening

lemme break it down barney style so we're on the same page

[tiny badge]

I apologize if im unclear, the free quest u refer to is not there. Only the open quest to turn in 1 frag for a 2nd one. Which i cannot complete

[smoky kayak]

last week, the first week of season 2, you got 1 half spark from the weekly quest, which then allowed you to turn in a collection quest at the Catalyst dude for the 2nd half, effectively giving you 1 full spark

this week, you could get another (your third) half from the weekly quest, and Blizzard pushed a hotfix activating another quest at the catalyst dude to give you another free half (what would be your fourth)

I believe the weekly quest for this week is just titan fragments, so that should be really easy to complete if you haven't yet

[smoky kayak]

you don't actually have to turn in a fragment, you just need to have earned one; can't see any reason why you shouldn't be able to complete it

and it's possible the second quest doesn't pop up if you haven't finished the first one yet

[tiny badge]

I follow. However i missed first week. This week i got a total of two. Most likely for the worldsoul quest and perhaps one from somewhere im unsure of. Then a quest showed up indeed telling me to turn in a fragment. I cant complete it. Ive done the 100 titan after didnt help. The complete spark sits in my bag

[smoky kayak]

any from previous weeks that you missed show up from completing random activities including M+, raid, etc etc

[tiny badge]

Ive done all that except raiding. Ill give that another go

[smoky kayak]

doesn't matter if you already looted two, you already got it

[tiny badge]

Thanks for your patience im not trying to be thick

Ill show a screenshot

[smoky kayak]

• two come from one-time quests that you say you haven't been able to do (assuming you're not simply mistaken)
• 1 comes from this week's weekly quest (titan fragments)
• 1 came from last week's weekly quest, which you say you didn't do, in which case that would have been the "somewhere you're unsure of" one that you already looted

if you really can't turn in the one quest and haven't been able to get the other to show up, you should open a GM ticket, because that would be a game-side bug

[tiny badge]

no weeklies left whatsoever, i've done the 100 fragment quests earlier

[tropic eagle]

The quest doesnt work for me either on an alt

[tiny badge]

ya its an alt too

[tropic eagle]

After I combined the 2 sparks and got the quest after that it wont let me complete it

Seems bugged

[tiny badge]

that's exactly my situation

and if I am to understand correctly, we're 2 fragments short, not just 1

[tropic eagle]

Correct

[tiny badge]

im absolutely stuck, cant craft my 2h nor can I get a catalyst for 2nd tier

I will resort to a ticket then

Thanks for your help Archimtiros!

[dry summit]

They killed it

lol

No mythic phase on gally

just dead

[shadow ibex]

lmao

[oblique oar]

2dps dead, still kill it easy

[tropic eagle]

That was underwhelming

[shadow ibex]

the biggest trick ever

[dry summit]

what a joke of a boss man

[shadow ibex]

i really thought it was a secret phase

[tropic eagle]

With that long of an intermission phase/fight its unlikely theres a secret phase

[sudden fox]

Shame there was no phase

And no warrior dps

[tiny badge]

I might have a reason; if you look at the quest reward it states it will give you 2 sparks if you complete it, but if you earn 1 spark and complete it your total will be 5 instead of 4.. might be why it wont let us earn another one?

[tropic eagle]

It doesnt give you 2 extra on top of the 1

It just takes the one and gives you 2

[tiny badge]

fair; then ignore what I said

[dry summit]

@smoky kayak your article is getting flamed bro

[smoky kayak]

who cares?

[thick hamlet]

what usually has the most value from ilvl upgrade

chest/pants > jewellery > trinkets i believe?

[smoky kayak]

weapons => trinkets > chest/shoulders/helm/legs > other armor ~= jewelry > bracer/cloak

[grand idol]

This whole debacle started because what you are trying to do (turn in the quest having already made a full spark) resulted in an extra spark fragment. Hopefully that means that quest now rightfully requires and consumes the fragment going forward and hence why you cannot turn it in with only a full spark available.

[tiny badge]

You refer to people getting an extra one? Yeah perhaps. No clue. I just want my third and fourth 😁

We'll see what the ticket response will be.

[grand idol]

It will be wait for Tuesday,

[tiny badge]

You think? People should be elligable for the same fragments. Its a competitive game. Telling them to wait another week and miss out on fragments entirely is not an answer

I cant craft my 2h. I cant even make a second catalyst piece. Thats terrible.

[grand idol]

I highly doubt they are going to break apart your spark into fragments when the alternative is you get a fragment on Tuesday within minutes of logging in.

[tiny badge]

If I will get all the fragments I lack this week ill be fine with it.

[grand idol]

You will get one as is normal, turn in the quest to turn 1 into 2 then have the +1 quest available for a total of 3 fragments.

[obsidian atlas]

So now that it's apparent the Arms nerf was over done, are we gonna get some of that execute damage back?

[sudden fox]

Lol no one knows whats going to happen

Monks will get owned, that much is guaranteed

[obsidian atlas]

Maybe prot too

[untold trench]

My crystal ball says
Another Nerf aimed at prot, hits arms

[smoky kayak]

considering it didn't affect Prot at all, no it was not

[smoky kayak]

that said... was it? Arms is still in the upper bracket; just because there are things ahead of them doesn't mean it's underpowered... more so they're also overpowered

RFW also isn't a good indicator of actual balance for anything beyond the RWF

[flat willow]

The less warriors in the RFW, the better

[wide pebble]

Fire mage and monk getting nerfed into the core of the earth probably

[flat willow]

you see 2 dps warriors in it, the next thing you know arms gets nerfed 5 times in a row (that's bad)

[smoky kayak]

Pretty sure Arms is still one of the highest raw ST specs in the game

[rancid sluice]

Mages in general better be sweating lol

[smoky kayak]

Fire Mage and WW Monk could definitely afford to be knocked down a bit; not just because they're strong but because they're strong at a lot of different things at the same time

[magic canopy]

rework ignite make it go away

[rancid sluice]

No reason fire mage needs caut

[hollow plover]

mage defensives need reductions imo

[obsidian atlas]

@smoky kayak so we're just good enough ATM?

[wide pebble]

We’re güd. Max just said that wolfdisco got robbed and the boss was killable with him, but fire mage was beyond broken

[smoky kayak]

the point is it's all relative

[fringe moon]

Arms is good at what it needs to be atm, which is boss damage.

[smoky kayak]

the fact that Fire is ahead of Arms doesn't mean that Arms isn't also strong

[obsidian atlas]

@smoky kayak can you petition blizz to buff rally in 5 man content for us.

[hollow plover]

^

[smoky kayak]

I've actually been pushing that for like 2 years now

sadly they don't always listen to every piece of feedback

[obsidian atlas]

@smoky kayak I have faith in you

[smoky kayak]

I did get them to finally make Mortal Strike not suck and breath a little life back into Battlelord
but I have so far failed to get them to nerf Slaughtering Strikes, so you take what you can get

[rancid sluice]

I will praise you every day if rally gets changed. M+ group makes me swap off war every season 😔

[smoky kayak]

I don't think a better rally would make that much of a difference tbh

[obsidian atlas]

@smoky kayak warrior from a gameplay perspective is absolutely fun ATM. So your hardwork is appreciated 👍

[smoky kayak]

I mean I think Warrior is a lot of fun, and this is the best Colossus in particular has felt all expansion

[hollow plover]

sure doesnt but having a 3min cd that doesnt even reliably save people is kinda meh in keys

[smoky kayak]

doesn't mean it's perfect, but it's never gonna be, it's always an iterative process

[rancid sluice]

Better rally atleast would make us less of only being damage pumpers

In disgusting caster meta like every season is

[smoky kayak]

no I agree - I just mean I wouldn't count on it making Warrior meta or even necessarily highly desired (which if anything is a good argument for why they should buff it, since it still wouldn't result in War being OP)

[rancid sluice]

Big agree

[smoky kayak]

I'm just still salty that Fury is kinda ruined by its obscene over emphasis on Raging Blow, which is largely driven by Slaughtering Strikes

[hollow plover]

would you agree that making earthquaker baseline is a good buff to warrior's m+ viability?

some people would argue that knockups arent good for the game

but i personally like em

[smoky kayak]

ehh, idk; I'm sure it'd be a net gain, but I don't think it would change that much tbh

[untold trench]

That would be a big helper, especially in pugs where DR is often a problem. Not sure if it is good to bring in baseline for all warriors tho

[smoky kayak]

DR isn't usually that big of a problem, most stuns are just used as pseudo-interrupts, rather than actual stuns, so the reduced durations don't have much of an impact

probably makes a bigger difference in PvP(?)

Also moving that out of Colossus might be a gain for the class, but a loss for the spec

[untold trench]

When cap totem goes down, with all the ST and AoE stuns the group got on the first stop, knock up is a godsend.
PvP is another can of worms for sure. DR matters more there

[hollow plover]

^

[untold trench]

I kinda feel it is nice it is a col only thing tho. It adds uniqueness

[brittle fiber]

Have you been vouching for throat singing warrior spec?

I have a few ideas

[smoky kayak]

[brittle fiber]

Aw man

[stoic siren]

anyone played spiteful serenity in keys?

feels nice having everything on 45/90s intervals

[hollow plover]

Tried it and felt like shit

[smoky kayak]

its generally regarded as a very weak talent, so no most people won't be using it

[clever lichen]

boys

any arms t4 wa avaible?

cant find on wago and wowhead

[hollow plover]

doesnt change gameplay

the 4set effect itself just gives a buff to you that you don't control, which doesn't affect your actual gameplay at all

Are you sure you want to track something like that ?

Cause too much info is detrimental to gameplay

[clever lichen]

so why i can find top logs when warriors 8s dont click execute on execute phase

mortal and overpower

im not sure about u words

[hollow plover]

One singular execute increases the dmg of the next mortalstrike by a massive 35%. The 4piece effect gives 2% dmg increase per stack. Respectfully, you're not correct.

[clever lichen]

no offensive brother, just trying find the truth

[hollow plover]

Feel free to share the top logs where warriors dont execute in execute phase

I'd like to see them.

[stoic siren]

One against many says cleave does MORE damage. Does that multiply all of the increased damage effects? (Merciless bonegrinder, Collateral Damage, tier set)

[hollow plover]

You're essentially asking the math formula for it right?

Im not enough for that

[stoic siren]

im just curious if all of the effects just add to each other or multiply each other

coming from poe its: (base + increased) x more

but im not certain how it works in wow

[hollow plover]

Exactly

you're asking if some effects are additive or multiplicative

which is essentially the damage formula with modifiers

[stoic siren]

ya

[hollow plover]

this is something your average warrior guy like me doesnt think much about

our warriorbrains think about that since they theorycraft around it

[clever lichen]

yeah its so hard to live with warrior brains

[hollow plover]

yo man im still waiting for the top ranked logs

with lack of executes

send em

habibiprayge

[clever lichen]

couple of mins

[quartz girder]

would u use s2 2pc or keep s1 4pc till u got s2 4pc

[clever lichen]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hJKbV8w1MQHcDqT2?fight=42&type=casts&source=21&view=timeline would be glad if u explain timing 4:27-430

5 mortal strike 0 execute

[hollow plover]

It's the unhinged procs from bladestorm.

Those are not actual player-driven casts.

[clever lichen]

sry im stupid

[hollow plover]

its ok

everyone learns at some point

[strange perch]

if i craft duskthread linen items with fury stats, is that a big deal or still good for arms?

likely going haste/mastery on them

[slow saddle]

I mean for raid?

No for m+ it might if u are very low on crit.

[rancid solstice]

Not a huge deal as they’re low stat budget items hopefully like bracer cloak

[latent moss]

good

arms with fury stats is ok

• wrists have 0 stats

same with cloak

[inner lava]

The Wowhead guide has this blurb in the section after the AoE rotation:

"For less experienced players still learning, the most important aspect is setting up strong Bladestorm windows to maximize AoE damage against groups"

I feel like my dungeon dps is ok but not great and I might not be doing this right. What goes into setting up strong bladestorm windows?

[rancid solstice]

Hm ideally you’re playing colossus with ravager in dungeons

[inner lava]

Yeah I'm playing that. I'm thinking maybe the guide means Bladestorm/Ravager but idk

[rancid solstice]

Bladestorm and ravager themselves aren’t doing much damage but they are creating big windows through merciless bonegrinder and unhinged helping stack demolish buff

[stoic siren]

if you use haste/mastery wrists as arms you get a -99% damage debuff

[paper dove]

how viable or how often are warriors, arms in specific, taken with into m+ dungeons?

compared to other dd's

i guess we are not meta

[eager sigil]

its week 2 man

[sacred zodiac]

you are and probably won't be meta

that won't impact your ability to get title though

[paper dove]

the 0.1 title?

[sacred zodiac]

ye

[paper dove]

alright thank you

[thick kelp]

warriros are so dogshit

u are never getting invited

[sacred zodiac]

true

[paper dove]

yeah i have played Warrior and ele shaman in Season 1

you simply can't compare them when it comes to who gets invited more lmao

[quasi torrent]

it absolutely affects the ability to do so

making it harder to time those keys and/or getting invited

increases the hurdle

[sacred zodiac]

true but if you push for title in pugs you need mental help

[gaunt owl]

if you push you need mental help

[tiny sable]

how are yall simming for keys?

[olive nest]

I usually just gear for raid with 1T 5 minute and run that gear in M+

And compare trinkets with 5T 1:30 sim for M+

It’s worth running both sims and using some critical thought
Like if you compare items on both and say it’s like a .5% loss on 1T but you gain 1.5% on 5T it might be worth dropping some ST for AoE

[fathom hollow]

Anyone can dm me a weak aura that screams at u if rend falls off

[gleaming mortar]

Why does everyone put one point into overwhelming rage instead of rumbling earth for m+

Even saw critcake drop rally for rumbling earth.

I don’t ever find myself waiting on rage so what is better about the cap being higher? Is it for execute damage?

The fast shockwaves seem so good esp with pug groups

[fair topaz]

I always run rumbling but overwhelming rage is useful for execute, especially when ravager is up. Being able to spam execute gives you big single target burst.

[gleaming mortar]

Ok cool ty

More damage or more cc

I was definitely taking rumbling earth last week with that affix but maybe this week and as we get into 12s and don’t have that affix OR may be better

[fathom hollow]

So does our 4 set

increase haste by 2% on EVERY stack

or just the MS damage

[potent dew]

guys, is possible to create a macro with thunderous roar > warbreaker? because they have the same cooldown but with global cd I don't know how to do it.

[halcyon breach]

per stack increases haste and mortal strike/cleave damage

So up to 20% haste and damage

[fathom hollow]

ok nice

when i get it ill get rank 1 log

[halcyon breach]

sure thing chief

[rancid solstice]

They don’t have the same cooldown because you’re playing anger management

[slow saddle]

Also rly dont, just have 2 buttons

[leaden cipher]

yo

can we reflect anything on last boss ? or mugzee?

[tender ermine]

No, they are both on the gcd

Arms has a few GCDs set up

Then you can spam out your damage abilities

[daring heron]

i dont tend to do this, i did it yesterday for no reason really

if you wanna take rumbling earth it's usually second wind or bounding stride you drop

[icy mulch]

Dropping rage pooling ability sounds like ass in the first place.

[reef badge]

is it still worth sending crafted on 2x pieces instead of a 2H if you probably arent getting a best in slots soon

[slow saddle]

well u can still get a m+ weapon from vault tuesday

so if u get weapon id say yes?

but then u are at the mercy of vault

[heady marlin]

Hey guys, is fury better then us as a whole or just in certain things

[shadow ibex]

just wait until tuesday at this point

[inland drift]

setting loot to arms should grand items with more crit in them right?

[shadow ibex]

no

you cannot influnece the armor you get

only weapons

[chilly isle]

and trinkets

prot loot spec wont get you dps trinkets and arms/fury lootspec wont get you tank trinkets

[inland drift]

ah, fair, thanks

how much crit is ok to have?

[shadow ibex]

as many as it takes

who wants to read a book

[terse raven]

Maybe it has lots of pictures

[inner mica]

Anyone able to get i. depth with me on the Execute rotation/priority

[slow saddle]

Just check faqs

Or wowhead. Its legit better

[quasi torrent]

cant read sorry man

[shadow ibex]

me either

[storm lark]

Is it still worth to use avatar 10s prepull on cauldron? I see most top logs just send it on pull

[dim basalt]

Probably because most dont know the tech

Not really something you usually think about

[storm lark]

Yeah but wouldn't then rank 1 log still be someone who did the tech? The first guy I find using it on prepull is like 300k behind rank 1

[shadow ibex]

yea i think plenty know the tech

just doesnt seem to matter

[glass sphinx]

Any 1 else getting Extra sweeping strike time ?

duration *

[wooden tide]

my sims got me a 13% haste and its weird

[reef glade]

Have the talent selected?

Otherwise shouldn’t be any different

[unkempt gull]

Does anyone have a weakaura to track winning streak?

[quasi torrent]

more fun tho

😎

[lost flare]

thsi new warbreaker effect is ass, wish they gave us the old Storm'Kar warbreaker spikes

[untold trench]

If so, make yourself heard on the official forums. It is the best way to have your voice heard

[inland drift]

what should i craft first ?

weapon or consecrated cloak

[untold trench]

You read the guide and it's reasoning? Either way, I would wait for vault day and then decide based on what you get

[inland drift]

i shall wait

[fast anvil]

yo guys!
could anyone explain me, why slayer aoe APL has no sweeping strikes action, but it exist in raidbots report?

[tacit crystal]

are you running the torment that gives you ss

[fast anvil]

yes

but with 50% uptime?

[thick kelp]

@smoky kayak

not my fault this time ( i thinks)

[tacit crystal]

what are you simming

[fast anvil]

CcEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCGmZmZGzYMLWWWmZGAAAAGMNMzsMmhxywMjFzMDzwDMMAAAAAAAYMLzMzAsFGbbDsBGwMMhMwG

5T dummie

[tacit crystal]

also why are you looking at slayer apl but then playing colo?

unless its just named slayer_aoe for aoe arms

[fast anvil]

err, what do you mean?

[fast anvil]

is is slayer talent build

[smoky kayak]

your first picture is of the Slayer multitarget APL, your second picture is a Colossus sim

[tacit crystal]

then why do you have colossal might in buffs?

[fast anvil]

omg, sorry guys

here the slayer report, all fine, my bad 😦

[tacit crystal]

then there is nothing wrong?

[fast anvil]

nothing wrong

if 10% uptime is fine for slayer aoe xD

[smoky kayak]

well

it still begs the question of why there isn't a dedicated Sweeping Strikes line in the Slayer AoE list

and there probably should be

[tacit crystal]

just press ss

[fast anvil]

if we need it, but who knows /shrug

[smoky kayak]

na it should be in there toward the top, somewhere between TClap and TRoar

I'll take a look and fix in a few mins

[fast anvil]

and it was there some time ago

[smoky kayak]

yeah, that's why I'm curious why it's not now

it's a real easy fix, I'm just not sure when or why it got removed

looks like it got removed when adding Slayer support for Ravager, since that changed a whole bunch of lines, it probably just got missed

[fast anvil]

just tell, whom we must shame?

[smoky kayak]

you

it's all your fault

[fast anvil]

[smoky kayak]

ok it's fixed

[slow saddle]

Wait so we need to do 8 delves on tier 8

for the delve trinket

its that strong ?

its basicly above anything

[proud rivet]

i have a question, whats the tric critcake does pre dung? he stacks something what is it

[slow saddle]

exept Mythic eye of kezan fully upgrade?

[slow saddle]

he just stacks Demolition or wth its called stacks and i guess also the collateral

so he goes into dungeon with full slam stacks

its kindda semi abuse so i dont use it, but its deffo nice for first pulls

cleave stacks

[proud rivet]

bannable?

[hexed snow]

What is better when doing log review, warcraft logs or a twitch vod?

And twitch vod with like a spell cast showing (details spell tracker example)

[smoky kayak]

no

[severe haven]

Ofc not..

[heady marlin]

fury or arms for raid

[somber lance]

which trinket

[slow saddle]

Mechano hog thingy?

[quaint otter]

based

[next vessel]

mechano hog? you said its a delve trinket?

[slow saddle]

Yes?

[fast anvil]

100%

[next vessel]

ah thanks sorry, didnt see it on the list i was looking at

[grizzled granite]

heys guys doesnt enyone have the spell id for 2pc and 4pc ? i really dont want to download elvui to track them and the wowhead one doesnt work

[slow saddle]

Waigo?

Deffo has a va

[swift crown]

1216556 4pc

[slow saddle]

But i dont think we care that.much?

[swift crown]

1216552 2pc

[grizzled granite]

❤️

[agile crown]

we only get a half spark each week right?

[shadow ibex]

yes

[agile crown]

ty man

[frigid vigil]

Should I be casting two Executes before each Mortal Strike in execute phase?

[tender jolt]

I believe so, should be execute x2 and overpower x1 , then MS should be off cd

[frigid vigil]

Cool.

[dry summit]

If im looking at logs and im looking at MS cast how can someone have so much more MS cast then me? is EXhilarating blows the only thing that can reset MS?

And paying really attention to it but i just dont get it.

[halcyon breach]

Exhil and Battlelord

If they are playing Battlelord that is

[wanton frost]

Is there a quick sim to determine which stats would give the most benefit based on my current great/stat distribution? Mostly just looking for a general bearing on what I should look at for gems/enchants/crafted gear stats before doing more specific sims

[halcyon breach]

The sim is to just do top gear sims

You can change enchants, gems and crafted gear stats in it

If you don't have premium, just pick either crit or haste as your gems/enchants, if it's iterations you're limited by

[wanton frost]

Yeah, I just end up needing to run the top gear sim multiple times for different combinations, was just curious if there was a way I could cut down the number of sims I'd run
But if that's the only way then it is what it is

[edgy hemlock]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w4WpE5xVT3rawf1nBWKaPy

any idea why theres no demolish in the first 20 seconds

strangely there is some after 30+ seconds

[grand idol]

Its stacking the buff.

[edgy hemlock]

its stacked at 14 seconds

[grand idol]

Waiting for smash.

[edgy hemlock]

warbreaker used at 6 seconds

how long does warbreaker last

[placid raft]

10 secs

[edgy hemlock]

oh i see

so warbreaker used at 6 sec

and u get 10 stacks at 14 but it does clap to refresh bleeds

so warbreaker falls off

[placid raft]

bad iteration maybe

[edgy hemlock]

so it doesnt send demolish

might be a haste issue

since it takes too long to send stuff

[grand idol]

You want the last hit in demolish as well, it has the bulk of the damage.

[edgy hemlock]

or i could be completely wrong

yeah

its like 3 seconds to fully send

lemme test my sim

and ill get back to you freakazoid

[placid raft]

ty!

[edgy hemlock]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7rQehC3Zhnr4JT67sFG76q

whats your haste at rn

cz my haste is kinda insane high

[placid raft]

11%

[edgy hemlock]

ah yeap

its a haste issue

u want a lot more

recommended stat prio is crit/haste

i personally do haste/crit

[placid raft]

yeah i jsut switched from fury

[edgy hemlock]

just have them close

[placid raft]

so im still enchanted for mastery ect

[edgy hemlock]

my stats are a little crazy

i have 15k haste

without pot or anything

so yeah my stats are very unbalanced

[grand idol]

It should be sending demo

[placid raft]

im at 5,5k haha

[grand idol]

if im reading the apl line correctly.

[edgy hemlock]

yeah it should be

just haste issue

so yeah

just get more haste

and make sure you got good crit

and ure fine

[minor gust]

Ilvl jumps will mess with your stats not a big deal tho go find some haste rings or neck and you will be fine

[edgy hemlock]

im still on 619 s1 ring

and sureki

so

yeah

sureki giving me 4k haste

broken mountain givng me 4k crit

hahaha

funhouse giving me either 10k haste/10k crit

[placid raft]

well im sitting on 13,3k mastery due to playing fury up until now

will shift my stats more towards haste, thanks for the advice

[edgy hemlock]

just focus on ilvl rn

[placid raft]

of course

[edgy hemlock]

get your champ/hero pieces

then u can worry

[placid raft]

str > all