arms

[verbal marten]

id say by week 3 if u dont have best in slots or capital punisher in heroic do crafted wep

[dim basalt]

Even if you have either you go crafted weapon

[verbal marten]

no

[dim basalt]

yes lol

[verbal marten]

no

[dim basalt]

Stop spreading false info

[verbal marten]

spread deez nuts on ur mouth

[dim basalt]

Crafted weapon is still a lot better than a bis, and especially than a capital punisher

[glossy tusk]

crafted sims like 50k more on ST than bis

[dim basalt]

the latter weapon is dog

[glossy tusk]

for me at least

[faint fog]

im not trying to make anyone mad or anything i just dont want to spend my spark if next week i should craft the 2h

my current weapon

[glossy tusk]

damn u already wasted some crests on it

[weak wave]

Why doesn't Details show the complete dungeon summary anymore?

[eager sigil]

it still does

maybe you had a dc or something

[faint fog]

yeah as a pug i have to do what i can do get ilvl in the here and now if i want to do content 🤷

[verbal marten]

idk abt u but for me 2h crafted is only 25k diff

[faint fog]

simming rn

not with bis though

just the 2 crafteds against each other

[verbal marten]

and thats without tweaking stats on the crafted pieces

[faint fog]

this is what i got @verbal marten

[verbal marten]

yeah u dont have a weapon tho right

[faint fog]

no i have a crashing thunderhammer

lol

[verbal marten]

hero?

[faint fog]

yes

[hushed pelican]

that sim is 3 sparks vs 2 sparks

you wouldnt have the crafted bracers and the wep next week

[faint fog]

thats actually massively true

so i should only be simming the single 2h against

2 pieces

[hushed pelican]

correct

[verbal marten]

yes

[faint fog]

and then if i dont have a myth track item by the following week

send the 2h

or a 665 slots

[verbal marten]

for me the game made the choice so im happy

got best in slots in vault

so i went with that

and im keeping that till myth track best in slots

[faint fog]

yeah that would be sick i didnt get much done week 1 as a pug

im trying to get a heroic slot machine kill this week so i can have a chance but

[verbal marten]

yeah i know the feel

[faint fog]

i dont think ima see that thing for a bit

[verbal marten]

thats why i got into guilds

the life of pugs aint it

[faint fog]

my best bet is just a myth track weapon from the vault, and i actually did join a guild that needed an arms war and theyre progging on slot machine lol, so we up baby

just giving it time now

[verbal marten]

gl

[shadow ibex]

if ur only warrior u gotta be a stud

[hushed pelican]

This is up against heroic best in slots for me

[faint fog]

most of the time in pug content i play better than most warriors, my logs would NOT reflect that but hey been shaking off the dust from SoD so it is what it is

this is what i came up with if i cant get a bis by week 4, or a myth track

or w.e week

im just assuming that my luck will end up being me crafting the 2h bracer combo

i get confused on when we get sparks and what not

[hushed pelican]

I think 3rd spark in on week 5 of the season

[faint fog]

so ive got 3 weeks to either get a myth track or a heroic bis

honestly even pugging those chances sound good enough to craft the latter

[hushed pelican]

yeah you have a while. You kill heroic slot dude soon for sure

[faint fog]

i cant react to that or id love it

lol

thanks guys

[molten jasper]

Is MS/bloodletting bugged and applying rend to targets that aren't under 35%? Trying to look at logs for a warrior in my guild and it looks like MS is applying rend shortly after the pull starts

[vivid ore]

anyone switches spec depending on the dungeon? any dungeons fury shines over arms ?

[halcyon breach]

Is this with Sweeping Strikes active

[faint fog]

ive done every single key this season from 9-10 as fury and i can tell you as arms i do rediculously more aoe on on pulls that have 8+ mobs but not as much single target on bosses

@vivid ore

[halcyon breach]

Because if you Sweep a target with MS that's under 35%, it applies rend to both

[rigid ravine]

highest io warrior has only played fury for his dungeons if wcl/rio is telling me correctly but I play arms in cinderbrew, priory, motherlode, and rookery and fury on the rest

[agile dew]

Colo or Slayer for 8-10 lvl keys?

[rigid ravine]

colo is the way

[vivid ore]

I just tried fury in priory and i did the same damage i would do as arms

with almost no mastery

it just hurts my fingers so much to button smash that hard

[dim basalt]

Fury just cant compete at all when there are bigger pulls

So ToP is a good contender

[faint fog]

the spirit pack alone with cds might put you on higher overall going arms lmao

[dim basalt]

dunno

I dont think so honestly

[faint fog]

hard emph on might

[dim basalt]

With how much ST there is in that dungeon

[faint fog]

furys single target is insanely good rn tho

[spiral needle]

Is there a "sweet spot" for haste for arms this season?

[faint fog]

in DF i had 23 21 22 or something for haste crit and mast and it was super fun, it kinda seems like the stats are similar in gains to df

[restive creek]

He's also 10-15% under his two other dps and they have comp optimized for physical dps

[swift crown]

@halcyon breach 30 30 40 30

[spiral needle]

ahh i see.. i know if DF for fury haste dropped of in value drastically after 25%. And i havent kept up with arms a lot. TY

[faint fog]

i have no idea what the breakpoints are though, dont want people coming for my neck putting false info lol

[toxic socket]

who is better in m+ atm. arms/fury or ret?

[native obsidian]

ret

Less boss damage, more overall damage, a ton more utility, ret wins

[halcyon breach]

@swift crown go kaboom

[swift crown]

you too

[quaint otter]

u sure bout boss damage?

my friend pumps like 2kk in st

[rare kite]

ret beats me in boss damage as arms. does not beat me as fury on boss damage

[quaint otter]

cuz arms st in aoe build is kinda sus

[rare kite]

it's not that bad. usually around the same boss damage as most other specs

[safe dagger]

is aoe just cleave and over power to buff cleave up?

[tribal ember]

MS and execute during sweeping strikes also

If ur talking slayer. Idk about colossus

[toxic socket]

So ret is better in m+ than us. Sadge

[sage badge]

Arms owns.

[visual fern]

Deswind stream owns.

[sage badge]

[quaint otter]

arms just owned me in key nerf fast

[sand stream]

if a add is taking more damage but dies extremely fast (mugzee) should I just stay slamming boss and sweep off him or get a few executes/MS on the add with sweeping?

[tender lodge]

WHy does Simc seem very off for arms

seems to be overvaluing haste

[burnt stirrup]

Is it worth to Upgrade Mountain shapers Greataxe to full Champion? Or shit weapon?

[sage badge]

What makes you think that?

[sage badge]

If you don't plan on crafting a 2h weapon next week and you have spare crests, you can probably upgrade it. I would hold off though, since you can probably get upgrades through raiding or m+. Unless you don't do either of those.

[quaint otter]

farm something heroic track might save u some crests but if u dont manage them just upgrade the one u have

all weapons are +- the same higher ilvl matters only

[fresh spire]

[terse lintel]

So im confused. What helps us generate rage? Sometimes I cant even press slam to fill and I have nothing to use. Or is it because im lagging lmao

[sacred zodiac]

can you give some more details? are you max level? do you have a log?

[terse lintel]

Im max level. Chuntor-tichondius or however you spell it

I feel like things arent running smoothly and I cant get a good flow of buttons

[vast helm]

@sage badge how's going?

[sacred zodiac]

i can't do much with just your name but maybe check the wowhead guide, being unable to fill in ST is completely unheard of

check talent builds and stuff

[terse lintel]

Really hmm ok

[sage badge]

Enjoying arms in m+ this season

[terse lintel]

I usually main fury but trying arms out this season to learn

Thank you @sacred zodiac

[potent creek]

did I bungled it?

picked and upgraded before I saw nerf

[broken arrow]

nerf was very minor, it's still good

[sacred zodiac]

even if the nerf mattered you could still upgrade other trinkets ye

[potent creek]

nice

[vast helm]

[manic pasture]

what amount of stats should I be going for

[astral yarrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[latent moss]

less haste more mastery i think

[dawn cedar]

is amorphous relic just a huge upgrade in m+ for us ?

or is the sim bugged

[hexed snow]

Any1 got a nice winning streak wa?

[sharp rivet]

lis there any way to see how many 11 delves you have done this week?

[mystic thistle]

what weak auras people using?

[sharp rivet]

i settled on quazii - really like it as it's very easily customisable.

[mystic thistle]

you got a link or?

[sharp rivet]

https://quazii.com/the-war-within-weakauras-ui/

im new though so prob best to wait for one of the experienced ppl to answer

[mystic thistle]

ok cheers mate!

im new to weak aura too so

[faint fog]

whats the point of an 11 delve?

[quaint otter]

achievment and gilded crests

[barren goblet]

whats best wep enchant

[rancid plinth]

the one you sim

[barren goblet]

tell me

[rancid plinth]

sim yourself

[barren goblet]

pls

im too lazy

[rancid plinth]

unfortunate

[barren goblet]

radiant power?

or depths

[potent creek]

[barren goblet]

if i wanted to sim i woulda simmed

not come in this chat

[potent creek]

stormrider fury is bis

take it or prove me wrong by simming it

[barren goblet]

authority of the depths sims best for me

[minor gust]

you did it yay!

[bold granite]

ima tell you i fuckin hate authority of the depths

[tacit crystal]

when do i precast pyroblast

[rancid plinth]

20s before the pull

[hollow plover]

you can check your vault

[tacit crystal]

when do i precast pyro

[sharp rivet]

i cant see where it shows you how many 11's you have done though

[minor gust]

uhh you go ruuuuuuhhhhh whooooooshhh blaammmm

[hollow plover]

not a perfectly accurate counterb you know if the 2nd slot is tier 11 then you've done at least 4 tier 11s

[sharp rivet]

Yah 🙂

wanted to do 3 but i guess 4 it is

[barren goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-yourself-safe-nice-soda-realbtw-goldencashplays-gif-6843035606030999558

[tacit crystal]

im about to crash out in the mage guild

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/regretting-thinking-nervous-macaco-monkey-gif-13105982953111325972

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/hedgehog-buttney-sleep-sleeping-tuck-in-gif-18155236538210793900

[hollow plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1114308309143519383/IMG_3926.gif

[tacit crystal]

we are not using a gateway to negate the knockback

on sprocket

THIS IS AIDS

[torn rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[quaint otter]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-eijivision-gif-6073182353830757804

[sharp rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/redblockcustom-man-no-arms-indian-arms-no-arms-man-standing-gif-17755513251794797743

[glossy tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-monkey-sad-depressed-bored-gif-14632661802414689947

EU server down again

[scenic sequoia]

just tried arms in mythic+

ngl

bangin

but very squishy

[glossy tusk]

compared to what?

[scenic sequoia]

fury

[glossy tusk]

i goose

but def stance is awesome

[scenic sequoia]

fury also has def stance though

[hollow plover]

fury is less squishy yea

[inner dome]

Hey, new here and pretty new to warrior. I'm pushing heroic with my guild and I can't figure out why my damage is notably low. I think I'm following the rotation alright, I'm using the recommended talents, and my ilvl is lower than everyone else's, but not by much. My weapon's ilvl is 10 lower than my average, though, if that's maybe counting for a lot. Just can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong

[hollow plover]

are you properly using overpower when opportunist procs? Do you keep mortal strike on cooldown as much as possible? Does your execute phase actually consist of using execute twice and an opportunist overpower before mortal striking again?

do you have a monk in your group?

dont forget, you need haste to function.

Do you have all the enchants n shit that you need?

there's so many reasons why you potentially underperform.

[fathom shoal]

best thing you can do is post a log in the review channel for ppl to see and analyze it. or were just guessing

[hollow plover]

the channel that he likely cant even interact in?

[tacit crystal]

ME WHEN HELP AND LOG REVIEW

oops caps

[inner dome]

yes, yes, maybe, could look into the execute thing more. monk healer, I could probably do with more haste, and and I only have 2pc tier rn. So it sounds like it may be a little bit of a lot of things.

[inner dome]

ahh yeah I didn't even notice that at first

[hollow plover]

ikr

ThinkSmirk

jebaiting is my lifes dream

[fathom shoal]

oh didnt know new ppl couldnt lol!

[inner dome]

looks like it's been moved to a forum format

[tacit crystal]

no one can anymore

[fathom shoal]

rip

[hollow plover]

Arms is a spec where you perform a lot better when tracking the main conditional buffs that increase your dps

tracking marked for execution debuff on enemy boss helps as well

[hollow plover]

whooosh

[balmy kindle]

For me slayer has this annoying quirk where your dmg can vary depending on how many SD procs you get

[inner dome]

yeah, I've set up some weakauras to help me keep track of things like that, or keeping juggernaut from expiring

[balmy kindle]

Been progging on colo BL lol, CBA with slayer

[fathom shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/हथमिलाओ-vidya-balan-luca-calvani-javier-shakuntala-devi-gif-17949713

[balmy kindle]

Thing is unless you tunnel boss you will likely drop jug, just a matter of when

[inner dome]

for sure

[balmy kindle]

Granted its strong when it matters , but this season mortal strike and Op are so buffed that unless you are progging mythic you can probably just play whatever

[inner dome]

welll the issue is our guild is planning to push mythic lmao

I appreciate all the advice, sounds like I should get some more haste

to start, anyway

[balmy kindle]

Try doing Sims because iirc slayer does favour alot more haste

[hollow plover]

yea u need big haste

also dont just full send execute whenever u get a sudden death proc

[inner dome]

lmao yeah desperately

[hollow plover]

that's no bueno

[inner dome]

right, I picked up on that too. Only if I'm capped on 2 charges of it or have stacks of marked for execution

[hollow plover]

and

[inner dome]

or if jug is going to expire

[hollow plover]

juggernaut

yee

[inner dome]

one day I will be big and strong

[hollow plover]

theres a weakaura with built in logic telling you when to execute

[balmy kindle]

You have too much vers

For sure

[inner dome]

I know lmao

I've just been taking what I can get on the gear side

[balmy kindle]

But since you mentioned you are progging mythic, might wanna align more towards fury

Think it's alot better for that

[hollow plover]

I wouldnt call it that ngl

[balmy kindle]

I like arms but rwf is legit just fury ATM

Bladestorm being bad on arms doesn't help either

[hollow plover]

rwf is not an accurate representation of how prog looks for a player in a guild like him

i hope u know that

[abstract schooner]

is there anything we would need to track related to the tier set?

or when we should send things depending on the buff

[tropic eagle]

There is literally arms for liquid on mugzee

Depends highly on the boss aswel, and in the rwf you dont have the time and resources t gear both specs so you play the one that is needed/better survivability etc

[lean geode]

two arms in for echo innit

Early bosses they were playing fury but like

Early bosses

[icy oyster]

i sometimes press mortal strike

sometimes i don't and i don't know why

[hollow plover]

mugzee comp i assume? not going arms on mugzee mythic prog is pure grief

[lean geode]

Yes

[hollow plover]

if u go fury during mugzee mythic prog

then ur guild should ask you

why you dont want more prog

[bold granite]

https://tenor.com/view/marcus-mumford-driving-smile-happy-innit-gif-16777855

[lean geode]

Innit is a goated phrase

Brits cooked with that one

[cursive crater]

Could you link the execute weak aura you were talking about earlier? I'm struggling to track everything atm

[high granite]

boss question. for one armed bandit boss, anyone know if the coils spawns randomly around the boss or can they be stackecked by placing/facing the boss certain way?

[hollow plover]

https://wago.io/9n9GqeQ6-

[cursive crater]

Thanks bro

[dense vector]

We did it team

[cunning violet]

hi Im new to this whole having only one 2hander equipped thing

do we hold Warbreaker till we get Demolish back on keys?

or just press as they come

[fossil thistle]

I send on CD typically unless coming off CD and holding for a short duration, or it’s over killing a pack

[hollow plover]

they are so fuckin desynced its just kinda vibes based, how many targets, when the aoe shit dies etc etc

the definition of play it a bunch and see what feels good to press

cause warbreaker itself doesnt rly do much dmg without other cds

[bold granite]

so sick

[serene glacier]

nobody has best ilvl 2 handers yet, so things like that aren't reliable info

now dropping every dps warrior for WW makes perfect sense though

[paper summit]

I want to play arms, but ive gotten 4 pieces of heroic Haste/Mastery gear. Mastery is a more usefull stat for fury isnt it?

[snow badge]

working on my arms warrior, is there a good UI pack anyone recommends?

[paper summit]

which ever one has the most download on Wago probably. I modify mine though. I delete some of the aura's, resize, etc...

i also change the order around to match my keybinds. Like having 1 has to be the left most cooldown.

you can just drag them in the list and it'll put them in line accordingly

[dry summit]

Just got a eye of kazan out of the the timewarp cache

thats kinda crazy

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aa1wAaobCestBvZhMJuxcv

2.1 mill without 4p also

[wooden lava]

Does anyone know Teemu? I wanna ask him osme questions

[pseudo crow]

hey ! The sim dps patchwerk 1 boss 5min include phase exec or not ?

[bold granite]

it includes yes

[pseudo crow]

kk, so why everyone says arms > fury full mono ?

whereas they have same simdps

[grave cedar]

avatar timings on M Carnage are so ass

[hollow plover]

yuh

pre avatar

[tacit crystal]

me and ish are having so much fun

[hollow plover]

ish = swordish?

[smoky kayak]

I stopped bothering and just sent it regular

the precast stuff tilts me lol

[hollow plover]

i know pre casting 10s is optimal but if u just pre crast like 5 seconds then it comes back up early enough to be perfect for the 2nd intermission

that might be something you'd enjoy

[tacit crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/mualani-genshin-impact-genshin-cute-genshin-cute-gif-9213918674297824443

[hollow plover]

compared to pre casting 10s

[tacit crystal]

@hollow plover

[hollow plover]

swordish being dead is always a great watch

🤝

[smoky kayak]

yeah you can game it a little, I just didn't care all that much lol

[hollow plover]

valid, honestly

we killed carnage yday and I forgot to pre cast

ended up getting some 80 log

idk I messed up a bunch

we chillin though

SwagCool

[tacit crystal]

good thing you missed our gallywix

[hollow plover]

link log?

ThinkSmirk

[tacit crystal]

cant

he'll kill me

[smoky kayak]

Only took one pull and I forgot I was playing Arms, so didn't start pressing Execute till the first boss was at like 25%
still got an 84 so w/e

[hollow plover]

We chilling 🤝

[umbral wing]

arms rotation changes after getting 4p ?

[hollow plover]

not rly iirc

I'm not sure if its worth squeezing in that extra mortal strike over some opportunist overpower or smth when your 4set buff is about to run out but i dont think it is

archi might have a better answer

[reef glade]

explode

[hollow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-copeharder-coping-keepcoping-gif-21255783

[reef glade]

https://tenor.com/view/nezuko-demon-slayer-tanjiro-zenitsu-gif-26887525

[tacit crystal]

ask him for the sneak peak

[smoky kayak]

not really, just push buttons

[hollow plover]

of what exactly

ur gally kill?

[tacit crystal]

^

[hollow plover]

yoooo

@reef glade

my friiiend

👉 🤛

errrr

👉 👈

[tacit crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1306014550822490182/hertype.gif

[hollow plover]

link log?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1114308309143519383/IMG_3926.gif

[reef glade]

i mean he can

its uh

[hollow plover]

he said you'll kill him

[reef glade]

maybe a walloping

though idk

i had a chud moment

happens

[tacit crystal]

chudstyle

[reef glade]

chudstyle

[tacit crystal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XT7d8rHqBVQRaJkc?fight=11&type=damage-done

[hollow plover]

hmm

[reef glade]

perish

i think mage was alive the whole fight

[hollow plover]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CLW9RdjPp6wDxnck?fight=31&type=damage-done

this was my gally kill

I did pretty ok for zero prep

[tacit crystal]

this is a true statement

me when im not using upgraded weapons

[reef glade]

yea i mean weapon feel like giga cringe waste

[hollow plover]

wait the mage actually wasnt dead

did he go afk ?

[reef glade]

either get vault weap next week or explode and craft i guess idk

[tacit crystal]

real

[reef glade]

but upping heroic past 4/6 troll regardless

[tacit crystal]

if i craft

im exploding

[reef glade]

unless bis acquirer

[hollow plover]

I call it that cope, saving on 30 gilded me no care big temp upgrade worth investment hurr durr

[reef glade]

i mean for like super chase items like a heroic bis trinket sure but weapon like the path is laid out to make a crafted if you need to

which is just a guaranteed waste of crests to upgrade hero weapon

[hollow plover]

it absolutely is a waste

[reef glade]

shouldnt do it on more than like 1 or 2 items

[hollow plover]

500%

but

[reef glade]

[hollow plover]

i actively wanted the temp upgrade

and im not regretting it so far

[tacit crystal]

i sent it on armor pieces that gave most stats

because theyll last longer than weapon

[hollow plover]

for context, im not getting any mythic loot from our mythic kills for the time being as we have a lot of plate wearers that get the juicer treatment

so i wont need the gilded

for a while

[reef glade]

i think like after you build a week or 2 of gildeds its ok to spend on hero when you assume you wont get much more than 1 mythic item a week

like if u dont mythic raid at all then its 1 item from vaulta nd maybe when you spend on crafteds

[hollow plover]

literally the case

[hollow plover]

i do mythic raid, thats the fun part

im just negative loot prio

[reef glade]

[hollow plover]

we are currently on rik reverb wondering why we have to bait the amps 3 seconds before the liquid weakaura tells us to bait

got multiple scenarios of double amps in melee

SwagCool

[reef glade]

yea ill b able to contribute to that conversation in like 2 weeks

[hollow plover]

we kinda figured it out after the fact

but liquid didnt

they just killed anyway

lol

[hollow plover]

msg me if u run into the same problem

i can give u heads up

yk

double spawns

seemingly random

[tacit crystal]

yeah bro

we are bashing our skulls into the fucking double boss

[hollow plover]

on torq u can actually stack 3 of the circles that follow all of u

no need to move a lot

Prayge

[austere river]

not really sure what i feel about this new set bonus, on top first boss i sat on full stacks of winning streaks without a single proc on the payoff 😄

[reef glade]

overpower was hittin huge then B)

[austere river]

well there is that i guess 🙂

[hollow herald]

i got the BIS weapon when i use the actives?

[hollow plover]

have you tried simming your gear with it equipped?

[finite tree]

has anyone else had any issues like this lol

i think its this talent

[hollow plover]

no

has nothing to do with ur char

its a normal thing htat happens atm

the issue is that enemies moving/rotation for their frontals or anything

just dont show up sometimes

in just about all dungeons

[finite tree]

that frontal doesnt rotate

its happening with swirlies too

[hollow plover]

nono you dont get it

this spear that you see going out to the right

is actually on u

but it shows u as going out on the right

because blizzard

thats why the boss turns to you last second

ig thats why the VDH also runs into you ig, tryna protect or or smth

but what gives

[finite tree]

i'm in comms with everyone in this clip, the frontal appeared that way for all of them

the boss didnt turn to me, it turned to the tank

his melee target lol

[smoky kayak]

kinda looks like the frontal hitbox stayed active after turning to the tank, and it hit you instead

I've not had that issue personally, though one of my friends has been hit by the spear by being too close to the boss' ass when it goes off

I always stand perpendicular and haven't ever had an issue though

[molten mauve]

@smoky kayak what is better 678 weapon or the crafted one 675 with Ascendance

[smoky kayak]

#1237307555961634826

[finite tree]

yea i have no idea

the thing is

this is only one example, i've been getting smacked by all kinds of shit i'm not standing in recently

but only when playing colossus arms lol

can't figure it out

[smoky kayak]

Idk I've done that key at least a few times as Colossus and never had an issue, so I'm very certain that's not the cause

[severe carbon]

can i get fyr alath as tank if i specc arms loot???

[reef glade]

psure just random drop off boss regardless of your loot spec yea

like hpals and shit would get it randomly

[severe carbon]

ait! going for my weekly run since DF, hope it drops for me soon

the ember "bad luck protection" seems to be a joke for me

[reef glade]

yea it was a joke for everyone

ramp is fucking worthless until like maybe week 11-12

becomes more than like 1% per thing

[severe carbon]

uuuhh 😦

[reef glade]

think its guaranteed on the 15th week of heroic

but i mean before possible

just as rare as any other mount probably

[severe carbon]

well been doing it wrong then, running mythics for the last year or two

[reef glade]

i mean if youre doing it on mythic that should be even faster

thought like 6 or 7 mythic embers and its guaranteed

you been doin it that many times on mythic and eating all the embers?

[severe carbon]

yup ate all of them 😄

[reef glade]

have to imagine its hard no how many ppl you gotta do it with

not related to why ur not seeing leggo yet but if youve actually done it like 7+ times on mythic i would think you should have it at this point

[haughty quail]

Hey, priority change with new 4p ?

[halcyon breach]

No

[atomic mountain]

is crafted 2h still good on max?

[vapid pine]

#1237307555961634826 message

[haughty quail]

Thx

[atomic mountain]

thx. so if i dont get BiS myth wep next week i build wep 😄

[dense vector]

Yea I’m thinking same

[hidden monolith]

Yes probably crafted weapon gamer till mythic+ vault weapon

[dense vector]

And then 11.1.5 we just buy a mythic best in slots

[worthy lynx]

should i buff all cleaves and mortal strikes with overpower?

[astral yarrow]

you dont skip cleave/ms casts to buff them

[worthy lynx]

if there is an optimal overpower use guide and i missed it i am sorry and would like directions to it

[astral yarrow]

but yes

[worthy lynx]

so only if they are on cd?

[dense vector]

Only overpower if you can’t mortal strike or cleave

Yea

[astral yarrow]

or well, you press OP when Opportunist is up over MS

[dense vector]

Yea

[astral yarrow]

Yea

[dense vector]

Is that just when op glows basically right

[worthy lynx]

i should probably get a WA for that

[oblique lodge]

Opinions on off piece chest piece vs head piece?

[dense vector]

Off chest is supposed to be best

That’s what I have anyways

[dim basalt]

Not like it matters

Diff will be marginal

[dense vector]

Yea this early just get 4 set and be happy

[dim basalt]

Even later its whatever

The chance you get to replicate the bis list is slim

[swift crown]

Offpiece doesn't matter just equip what robot says

Crying 'uhhh I don't want this piece I want it to be offpiece' is cringe

[dense vector]

What stats are on chest

Something stinky like mastery vers?

[dim basalt]

low haste high mastery

So not even bad

[swift crown]

You want some of all stats anyway

[dense vector]

Oh yea not bad and pretty good for fury if you play both

[random ridge]

Guys as slayer, playing with the 50% buff on ms after bs hero trait, after bs do i 2x op and exe if i got a proc to max out that ms ?

[iron vigil]

which m+ talents are better? slayer or colos?

[quasi torrent]

overppower

[tropic eagle]

double arms war on mugzee from echo

[random ridge]

[dense vector]

We are so back

[valid sage]

Druid in my guild passed on 4 set because it was the wrong tier piece🫣

[dense vector]

I was so sad when I saw no dps warriors on liquid bandit kill

[swift crown]

Oh no the high Haste low Vers gloves

[valid sage]

Mhm

[quasi torrent]

oh no

the balls

🤯

[swift crown]

It's actually crazy

How brainwashed some people are

[sacred zodiac]

the WOKE LEFT has brainwashed you into thinking that mythic weapons with wrong stats are bad !!!!

[dense vector]

Right people keep telling me I’m trolling using a mythic staff

[sacred zodiac]

real

[quasi torrent]

crit vers????

i will use normal gally wep!!!!

[tropic eagle]

its ok, more gear for us innit

[midnight mural]

guys can we leap the circle on rik reverb? i saw mage blink through it

[quasi torrent]

dont do it

its

very inconsistent

[magic canopy]

boss doesnt take damage anyway

legit no reason to

[quasi torrent]

i glided over it yesterday, that worked

but then i tried using transcende

[magic canopy]

just dstance and dont get hit

[quasi torrent]

that instantly killed me

👍

[tropic eagle]

Yeah you cant do dmg in that phase

[quasi torrent]

or well, when i glided over it, i took one tick for 800k

(i was killing some add on mythic)

[midnight mural]

really? <INSERT JUGGERNAUT STACKS>

[magic canopy]

if you are playing arms on rik you are trolling

[midnight mural]

depends

[tropic eagle]

Or you just like arms?

[daring heron]

i just save leap for the last ring, get knocked up first and then leap through to get to boss asap

[midnight mural]

Your last vid made me mad

i want to play arms even more now

[magic canopy]

i mean if you are just gaming on heroic its w/e

[midnight mural]

not heroic

[magic canopy]

and after some gear it also wont matter what you play

if anything iif you really want to i would use leap to get to the boss instantly after getting knocked

[tropic eagle]

I still play arms on Stix even when there is only 3 parses in top 250

[magic canopy]

to keep up jug stacks

then get gripped back or if its close even better

[midnight mural]

intermission is quite lengthy isnt it

[magic canopy]

yup

[tropic eagle]

Yeah quite a lot of downtime

[magic canopy]

its at least like 20 seconds

so not impossible, but really hard

[midnight mural]

imma game it and see if i can keep up the juggies

if we for some reason dont have damage enough for adds i will just go fury

[magic canopy]

since even if you can keep up jug if the boss isnt low already you would have to rng another SD once you are back on the boss

[midnight mural]

I mean yeah.. if boss is not at sub 35% on second intermission its a moot point 😄

[magic canopy]

eh its possible with good rng which is all parsing is anyway

go big or go home i suppose

[lime solar]

are people happy with this jug uptime rng? i played warr as my split alt, that felt pretty cringe ngl

[rare kite]

no. jugg is giga cringe

should be removed

or atleast reduce the stacks by alot. 15 stacks is way too much, especially with slayer highrolling stacks

[lime solar]

jugg to me feels way worse than ToM in BfA and there you ww on ST just cause it costs more rage

[vivid hill]

How long should I hold CDs for to ensure Demolish lines up with Warbreaker if timing gets screwy?

[midnight mural]

its really annoying to play around >_>

[unique aspen]

Hey guys what % haste should i aim ?

[rare kite]

no such thing

if robot tells you to get more of a stat you get more of that stat. trust robot

[slow saddle]

Yes coz of slayer

If we never could keep up stacks pre exe

But remove jugg or 5 stackd

[fathom hollow]

Is it better to use whetstone etc or oil?

[slow saddle]

I presume oil

Actually havent checkef

[quasi torrent]

Theyre same same for most people

[slow saddle]

Oils cheaper

[sacred zodiac]

me when i spread misinformation

[quasi torrent]

oils havent been cheaper since like week6 of the xpac

[vapid pine]

I guess in theory there would be less oil value when we hit secondary DRs?

[quasi torrent]

mainstat scales loads faster on gear than secondaries tho

so each secondary still gains more value

[sacred zodiac]

Scales

[quasi torrent]

s word

[toxic socket]

I love this. Me wawwior, me Zug robot

https://tenor.com/view/cavemanspongebob-caveman-spongebob-react-whatreact-gif-20206670

[shadow ibex]

One day jug and dance of death won't exist

Blizzard afraid of what our true power is

Must be shackled by these two talents

[icy mulch]

What about spiteful serenity and Storm of Swords?

[quasi torrent]

dance of death is op

[icy mulch]

[merry dome]

is slayer viable in mythics?

[dense vector]

In low-key’s, and then maybe something like theater of pain

[merry dome]

ah ok ty

[icy mulch]

Anything is viable till, well, we don't know yet.

[rose cedar]

Guys, i am trying ARMS...can you tell me the ST, AOE and Execute rotation pls?

[dry summit]

Go to wowhead bro

There is a entire article

[slow saddle]

Love it

[hollow scarab]

#dps-faq links are there

[slow saddle]

Just press that which lights up

[shadow ibex]

Stop

[slow saddle]

Slayer arms in key... must be rough

[lofty elm]

Is there a rotation prio list for Slayer Arms AoE with no cleave? i.e. ST builds

Or do we just follow the cleave build ones

[river ridge]

Confused by what you mean. Do you mean like 2-Target cleave like One Armed Bandit?

[valid sage]

Aoe with no cleave? So sweeping strikes?

Press it then do your ST rotation I’d believe? If not I’m doing it wrong😎

[rare kite]

watching rwf on mugzee. revvez dropped jugg stacks right before execute phase(8 stacks) and wallife went into execute phase with 9 stacks

very well designed spec blizzard

🙂

[icy mulch]

You can have cleave with slayer, and collateral. You're really only missing Demolish.

[dim basalt]

But I do wonder how they manage to do so much damage pre exe

On Mugzee my damage is like in the gutter before that phase

Could be because I dont have an on-use but eh

[rare kite]

they're built different. the 2 best warriors in the world

[olive nest]

Pre execute damage is a lot of rng

But you still have to react to procs properly

[river ridge]

Just feels like if you're in that position where you're considering playing Slayer w/o Cleave but need AoE there's probably a compelling argument to just play Colossus or Fury.

[dim basalt]

My 639 ara kara egg also only sims like 4k less than 658 pacemaker which is a bummer

[icy mulch]

Aren't they talking about M+? The only thing I could consider Slayer Arms for M+ is basically going for the prio boss damage. Overall, yeah Colossus and Fury will be better.

[dim basalt]

But I will prob run with the egg because it feels al ot better zz

[livid furnace]

Can someone help me with the general Execute rotation ?

I have been looking at a lot of logs and it tends to look like

Execute x2
Mortal Strike
Execute x2
Overpower
Execute x2

etc...is that correct?

[river ridge]

Idk, that's why I asked for clarification on where they would need that xD

[dim basalt]

Usually you can have 3 gcds before MS comes back up again, so most of the time its exe exe overpower

Unless you miss one gcd due to mvoement, then just 2x exe ms

[livid furnace]

SO we are trying to fit in 3 globals before MS

is there any reason this coundn't be 3 executes or is it better to get an overpower in?

[teal fossil]

you dont have rage for 3 execs

[thick kelp]

Opportunist procs

[icy mulch]

Maybe if you have a Windwalker and Fire mage/Ret Paladin in a M+ group. Slayer Arms would be for high boss killing. It's niche and Colossus and Fury are still very good for that.

[thick kelp]

wowhead guide answers this question

[livid furnace]

I know but sometimes I find those guides a little confusing with the way the priority is listed.

Just thought it would be easier to ask for direct help

[teal fossil]

well the top logs you see also follow the priority

if you blindly follow them without understanding why then you wont parse like them

[dim basalt]

third execute doesnt get you more damage on MS because EP only stacks to two, also you starve on rage

Unless you get insane windfury procs

[livid furnace]

Ok that makes sense guys.

We do have windfury Totem for raids perhaps why I have found I can hit 3 executes but I have found times when I have then rage starved

So better with 2 executes to build Executioners precision, overpower to build martial prowess then Mortal strike ?

[serene hollow]

there is an entire priority list on the wowhead guide

there are a couple of conditionals, if you really care to optimize it's not as simple as always press execute twice, overpower once, and then mortal strike

[dim basalt]

It is tho

[lofty elm]

Is the AoE rotation with ST or 2T build just SS then ST rotation?

like if there's 3+ targets

[serene hollow]

most of the time, sure

[dim basalt]

Like 99% of the time

[serene hollow]

but optimized

https://tenor.com/view/japan-real-real-japan-sugi-same-same-but-different-chikara-gif-4942153489374473890

[dim basalt]

Not sure what conditionals youre thinking of

[lofty elm]

overpower has a few conditionals

[serene hollow]

you often prio overpower

[lofty elm]

based on rage, MP stacks etc.

[dim basalt]

But we are assuming thats already known

lol

Thats exactly what this entire thing is about

[strange perch]

Can anyone tell me why the best warriors in Echo have different stats in the raid, high haste and then crit or mastery?

[lofty elm]

^

?

[dim basalt]

Yeah?

In exe it really is as simple as exe exe op

99% of the time

Because 2x EP MS has a higher prio than opp op

[lofty elm]

disagree but you do you

[dim basalt]

Feel free to disagree with the APL

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lofty elm]

well I'm just following Archies advice

who I imagine knows the APL full well

[serene hollow]

execute is literally after overpower conditionals in the rotation

other than juggernaut, but that's not a thing in execute normally

[lofty elm]

I believe with opp proc (aslong as not 2x MP) you would OP> exe > exe > MS

[dim basalt]

or op exe op exe ms even

[lofty elm]

yes

[dim basalt]

But youd have to drop below 85 rage to begin with

Which is not that common atm

[lofty elm]

hmm happens to me sometimes

but anyway I think we're agreeing

[dim basalt]

I think in the entire heroic mugzee fight I drop below 85 rage like 3 or 4 times at most

Unless I play ravager

(pls make ravager slayer a thing)

[plush belfry]

Week 2, people tend to just stick to ilevel/whatever tier

[lofty elm]

Do you guys just use SS > ST rotation for AoE? With Slayer ST/2T builds

[dim basalt]

ye

Not much else you can do because WW does almost negative damage

At this point they should just remove ww and make cleave baseline

[tribal ember]

You don't use the cleave build?

[lofty elm]

Not once in raid

[dim basalt]

Not really in raid

[tribal ember]

Why not?

[dim basalt]

On Stix I play colossus

[lofty elm]

Just does less dmg

[dim basalt]

Otherwise just normal ST build (sometimes with extended SS)

Most specs have so much aoe that you dont have to go aoe at all

[lofty elm]

yeah ESS can be good on Cauldron, Stix etc.

[tribal ember]

Hm

[lofty elm]

but never cleave

[tribal ember]

Fair enough

[eager sigil]

you would just play fury for a cleave fight

[dim basalt]

M+ build on stix is fun tho

[tribal ember]

The wowhead article recommends cleave build for some fights but it feels bad dropping cleave during st phases

[lofty elm]

just check the top 100 parses they all use ST sometimes with ESS

[dim basalt]

^

[tribal ember]

👍

What do people usually drop for extended sweeping strikes?

[thick kelp]

1bb

[tribal ember]

1bb?

Oh nvm

[thick kelp]

: D

[tribal ember]

Bloodborne

Tyvm

[covert drift]

Quick question, should i use sudden death or non-buffed overpower when outside CS?

According to this i should only use sudden death procs with 3 stacks of marked for execution?

[tribal ember]

Generally you want to hold sudden death til you have 2 stacks so you can keep jugg up as long as possible

But if your RNG is bad and it's about to expire, I use the sudden death proc

[covert drift]

Meaning, space out the sudden death casts to keep the buff up?

[tribal ember]

Yeah

I use a WeakAura icon to track when juggernaut is about to expire

And one to track when sudden death is about to expire

That way I always know how long I can hold it

[covert drift]

Yeah i have one too

It's just i found arms pretty simple at first. Like, to play it at 80% strenght it pretty simple

However to juice 100% out of the spec

it gets complicated

[tribal ember]

Ye

[covert drift]

Specially since a lot of stuff overlap

[tribal ember]

A lot of conditionals to keep track of

I played ret in s1 and arms is a lot less straightforward if ur optimizing

[olive nest]

Fury worse this time

Imagine that one

[covert drift]

Is it possible to have audio cues for when your target get's 3 stacks of marked for execution?

[tribal ember]

Yes

[covert drift]

Do you know how?

If you don't mind teaching me

[tribal ember]

I'm at work ATM so I can't give u details since I'm relatively new to WeakAura creation, but if you open up WeakAura and create a premade aura you can probably find one that suits your needs

Then, to edit it and make sure it has a sound, you would create a trigger iirc

So for example, you make a premade WeakAura icon

To track marked for execution

Then, you set a trigger that makes it so once MFE hits 3 stacks it makes a sound

I believe the trigger option is 'stack count' or smth like thet

You can also make the icon border glow like a proc if you're a more visual person

[covert drift]

Thanks, i'll give it a try

[tribal ember]

[covert drift]

One last question, sorry to bother

[tribal ember]

Np

[covert drift]

I've read all written guides

But is there good youtube videos to learn?

ik there is a lot of garbage ones out there

i mean good ones

[tribal ember]

I haven't used any YouTube vids to improve my own play so I couldn't tell ya

[covert drift]

I see

[tribal ember]

Does your raid log?

If so, drop your raid log into wowanalyzer

[covert drift]

i just came back to retail after years

still ilvl 620

just doing delves

[tribal ember]

Ah gotcha

[covert drift]

but i'm looking to get back to mythic

that's why i'm so keen to get better at the spec

[tribal ember]

There are def more qualified people here

Who could prob point u in the right direction

I don't do m+ myself

[covert drift]

You already helped a lot

i meant mythic raiding

[tribal ember]

🫡

[covert drift]

m+ i'm only going to +10

[tribal ember]

Oh, ye I just do heroic raiding

And low keys

But I like to be good enough to make a dent in prog

If I had to give one basic word of sdvice

Just focus on using your rotation properly while in all content

Open world, delves, whatever

Use your single target rotation and practice it

That helped me a lot week 1 when I came back to the spec after s1

I was awful but I'm getting into a rhythm now

[jagged goblet]

warrior power activate

[covert drift]

Will do, thanks bro

[warped topaz]

is anyone simming lower than yesterday? i was simming 2.2m, with the same gear today, i sim 1.9m

did we get nerfed or smth

[dim basalt]

Im still simming the same

[tribal ember]

🫡

[still wolf]

is that relic trinket that just got buffed any good?

[tropic eagle]

isnt that one from cinderbrew

I was looking at neck options cause its my worst piece and saw it

[south merlin]

Yes Cinder

Wowhead is sometimes messed up, last week Oath ring was not linked to TOP also

[tropic eagle]

ah

[olive nest]

That fury is keeping up!

[ripe quartz]

This happened to me last week, I was wearing sword and shield

[rain cipher]

firs time playing arms in m+ after equipping my 4sets.. not bad at all

[green nexus]

talking about the one from delves?

[halcyon valve]

the way it should always be

[still wolf]

yeah the delve one

[green nexus]

it sims better than pacemaker fo rme

at 10 ilvl lower

[olive nest]

[still wolf]

weir

weird

gonna sim it now

im using the mechano and the funhouse lense

its simming higher than my mechano at same ilvl

[covert drift]

Is hekili a good addon to get the muscle memory of the rotation or will make me build bad habits?

[true ridge]

Probably fine for muscle memory but it has no clue what the next pull is or how long the mobs will live for

So probably not going to give you the best use of your abilities

[peak jacinth]

Hekili can be good to tell you WHAT to press. But you need to learn WHY you're pressing it.

Also, Hekili (obvs) can't predict the future. So you might be finishing off a 2-pack, and a 10-pack is your next pull. Hekili will tell you to (sic) blow all your CDs... because it's not anticipating your next bigger, more important, pull.

[modest mortar]

https://youtube.com/@bizentein?si=vMsVghwzYgMo1CMw

I recently started watching this guy . Hes pretty gud

[covert drift]

Thanks guys

[modest mortar]

Critcake makes videos too. Check him out!

[covert drift]

I saw critcake but it's more of a pov thing

I was looking for guides per se

But still helpful

thanks

[true ridge]

Pov might actually tell you more as to when you should be pressing cds and such it's all fine to say this is the perfect aoe rotation but it usually isn't that simple

So if you can see what they prioritise in real time you might perform better

[covert drift]

I see

Thanks

[lofty elm]

does collateral damage have a max stack?

[halcyon breach]

No, the limit is just how many attacks you get in during a single SS window

[peak jacinth]

After my Hekili reply, I saw "Hekili is typing..." Does the creator of that app read this? How can I ask a question about what seems to be a bug?

[reef glade]

was prolly just hekili fan number 1

@teal fossil

but if not then get randomly pinged

Avatar bs and cs are like big cooldowns sorta where as ms and op are more of the rotational abilities but yeah you will have to hit slam occasionally

It’s not as bad for arms

Wanna make sure your rend is also still up on the target but if you have like over 10 seconds of rend then yea slam away till the other buttons are hittable again

[teal fossil]

yeah i was typing

im the #1 fan

[rain cipher]

Man.. I am not fan of the rotation.. but the damage is really good

[proper coyote]

Yes. (not the creator but a main dev)

I browse the class discords a few times a week for unreported problems 😛

[manic pasture]

How much does 2 and 4 set increase damage in aoe?

[peak jacinth]

Heya! I mostly use Hekili anymore as a confirmation tool. "I was going to press A here... nice, Hekili is saying same thing." But mainly it's nice as a tracker for Rend. It just works better for me than trying to track icons on plates, etc.

But what I've noticed for some time now (S2 DF?), is that it will often recommend just spamming Rend at various points. 5, 6, 7 times in a row, it doesn't care. It never even gives Slam prio, when it obvs should.

Any idea why? 🙂

[teal fossil]

Because rend used to do more damage than slam back then

[peak jacinth]

Even in DF, Slam did more dmg and/or dmg/per Rage than Rend. It hasn't been right since it first started and regardless, it's not like the app isn't updated REGULARLY. lol

[rare kite]

you just described arms warrior in a nutshell. "it feels like shit but it does dam"

[teal fossil]

thats just not true

[halcyon valve]

Doing dam feels good tho

[teal fossil]

in DF rend did more damage unless you wanna throw away 2 talent points to buff slam

[halcyon valve]

Big number

[teal fossil]

for a 0.1% dps gain

so most people chose to save those 2 talent points for utility

and therefore rend>slam

[halcyon valve]

True

[peak jacinth]

Then read everything after the "regardless" part...

[teal fossil]

you just said in DF

[peak jacinth]

bc it's not true anymore. No I said more, read

[rare kite]

before they buffed that talent or slam(i don't remember which one) rend did more with the 2 points as well iirc

[teal fossil]

yeah maybe

either way it wasnt worth 2 talent points

slam was presable for like 3 months of DF

[teal fossil]

hekili #2 fan

[peak jacinth]

At any point are you going to get to the part where we are 17-19 weeks into THIS expansion, Slam > Rend (once it's been applied), and it still recommends spamming Rend ... when that app is updated regularly?

[teal fossil]

Ok you didn’t say that it was still happening or I misunderstood you

[olive nest]

No we won’t ever be rending instead of slam unless they nerfed/buff one of them enough to change things

[teal fossil]

Why not take a screenshot or something and send it in the discord

[peak jacinth]

Sorry yes. I thought that was clear. It still does that.

[peak jacinth]

It's one of those 1> doesn't bother me THAT MUCH. As I said, I don't really use Hekili as a prio helper, but just a Rend tracker and ... when it starts recommending me to spam Rend... I know it's wrong. It's easy enough to ignore. 2> I just had no idea where to go with it. It's why I just sorta spoke up here ... I didn't know where else to take it.

[proper coyote]

I haven't experienced that, and nobody else has reported it to us

[peak jacinth]

Would a log help? Not sure a screenshot helps.. .but w/e I can do to help, I will. 🙂

[proper coyote]

But if you care enough, you can do this when you see it happening and send it to me and I can take a look.

You don't use action targeting mode do you?

[peak jacinth]

No as basic as it comes.

[proper coyote]

ok. Well if you want to follow the instructions on that link I will look at it. The addon can generate its own logs for rotation debugging. You don't need to make a git ticket, you can just DM me the pastebin link with the logs in it

[orchid panther]

uhm

i just got a 2nd spark quest

im 99% sure i completed it last week, but the guy beside the catalyst just gave me another. This isnt the bug people were reffering to early in the week right?

[stable fiber]

no its not

they did it on purpose

this quest JUST appeared, i was literally sitting next to the catalyst

[orchid panther]

yeah same here

and again, im 100% sure i completed the first quest he had last week and he didnt have one for me this wednesday

[stable fiber]

yeah i did too

[orchid panther]

i checked if i could bug abuse

[stable fiber]

this quest is named differently

[orchid panther]

maybe they had to give the half spark to every1 since some people already crafted 2handers from bug?

[devout pewter]

So what we crafting for mainly M+ (Raid is optional and mainly for BiS farm/funs), bois? Got Charged Claymore and Wrist already ready from last season, saw Cloak to be nice as well?

[wide pebble]

Yoooo that’s hype!

[orchid panther]

@astral yarrow u checked this out yet?

[fathom hollow]

Does Arms for M+ have haste cut off

[teal fossil]

100%

[olive nest]

No just sim top gear 5 target Patchwerk 1:30

Or just gear for raid with 1T 5minute and run that in M+

[fathom hollow]

i dont raid

[stable fiber]

it still applys to m+

lol

but 5 target patchwerk

[fresh spire]

can confirm

[orchid panther]

seems intentional by blizzard this time atleast, im sending 2h

[shadow ibex]

Yea

Their solution to the people getting a craft early

[olive nest]

People still get to be half a spark ahead

But atleast it doesn’t matter that much

[shadow ibex]

Maybe those that are ahead won't get quest

[olive nest]

I’m happy to get 2h on the same pace

[shadow ibex]

Impossible to tell unless 1 of them says something

Yea same

It's the most simple solution for sure

Just throw them out instead of trying to roll back

[olive nest]

Honestly

We’re so close to reset already

Might fish for weapon still

Well we do prog carnage Sunday so probably should send weapon

[shadow ibex]

We prog sat and sun

So this is perfect for me

[olive nest]

Oh yeah for you it’s big!

[shadow ibex]

I'm also sitting on like 180 crests

I haven't gotten any loot that needs runed crests

So just going on 3 weeks worth

[empty pike]

guys, does anyone have a pov on how to use the best in slot with an activatable trincket?

[slow saddle]

Slot is bound 2 cs trinket if 1.5m to avatar

Is how i did it

So if bl pull i use both.after.eachotjer

[dim basalt]

So I guess we do be crafting weapon

[slow saddle]

I do at least

And then i get in vault, but fury oh is also good

I cba to wait

[burnt stratus]

brothers

Why do I feel colossus to be lackluster in M+

I'm sure I'm doing something wrong in my rotation

Can anyone enlighten me on skill prio and general playstyle??

[slow saddle]

Yes

Wowhead

[compact lantern]

I just got my second spark, is that real?

[olive nest]

Ye

They’re leveling the play field since spark quest was bugged

[shadow ibex]

Bro I'm sitting on like 160 gilded

[sacred zodiac]

??

[tribal ember]

Cool beans

Looking forward to a 675 wep 2nite

[olive nest]

So am I

I have not spent a single one was waiting for 2 spark week

Well

Last night I spent 30 on heroic punisher

[lilac mica]

Is it not a waste to craft weapon? wouldnt you gain more out of Dawnthread double piece?

[olive nest]

I’d only consider weapon craft to play fury

[sacred zodiac]

if you already have a mythic weapon sure

[olive nest]

Otherwise I’ll prolly wait for vault I’m debating it right now

[quasi torrent]

if you love doing damage in an uncertain amount of time vs doing damage now

thats a good idea

otherwise u should just craft 2h

[tropic eagle]

for embelishments we rock double dawnthread?

just noticed we got a second spark 20min ago so need to craft something

[dry summit]

I did wrist/cloak

Since I already have a 565 weapon

[tropic eagle]

yeah Im gonna do wrist/cloak too

[wide pebble]

I want damage and I want it right now!!

[shadow ibex]

Week 1 I boosted a heroic weap to max ilvl

[dry summit]

Gonna hit the 560 mark soon

[shadow ibex]

Felt worth tbh. Made prog that much better

[eager sigil]

noob?

[dry summit]

I did the same it’s good

[shadow ibex]

For not min maxing my crest?

[eager sigil]

[shadow ibex]

I'm in the same boat as anyone else. I'm like 555

Didn't set me back at all

[tropic eagle]

I juiced this up

F it we ball

[shadow ibex]

Like yea let me min max my crest spending as if I'm a rwf roster member. Just stupid to clutch them like that

Makes 0 sense

[tropic eagle]

the next upgrade Im getting is best in slots either RNG in vault or when my guild manages to kill it on HC and even then Ill probaby not have prio on it so

[olive nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/41UbLWLzRuRHJ9hCducQqW

[gaunt owl]

if you dont do the insane split anyway why rush the gearing process

[olive nest]

Weapon still the best I could get right this second

[sand summit]

I did craft weapon too

[shadow ibex]

More gear early helps kill bosses early

I just don't understand why ppl are frightened of upgrading a heroic weapon

[sand summit]

I feel like, the double dusk craft, is way more late game.... Not sure about uptime, if u do progress in mythic or high keys.

[gaunt owl]

should have said sending it the way too

[sand summit]

this early on

[gaunt owl]

weapon is the only real choice

[shadow ibex]

As if the 15 wasted crests are going to cost you a parse

[tropic eagle]

wait we run duskthread or dawnthread

[olive nest]

Dawn

[tropic eagle]

wowhead shows dawn but says dusk im confused

[sand summit]

What ever sims best mate

[tropic eagle]

ah

[sand summit]

But usually the crit one