arms

[strange perch]

The kind of guild that says shit like this :))

[boreal quartz]

Arms set is mega fuckin big

Completely int to deny 4 set

[slow saddle]

Dno man

[strange perch]

I know, but it came from another warrior

[boreal quartz]

And they are wrong

[strange perch]

And I was like walahi bratan

[slow saddle]

I didnt get 4p coz our mist hrealer got 2p instead

[strange perch]

Wtf you saying this for

[boreal quartz]

You simply take ur char

Add 2p and 4p via raidbots

Show the 10% gain

And complain

[strange perch]

That's what I did, imma stress on it

[boreal quartz]

Idk man ive left guilds over being griefed with gear before

Especially when the tier goes to players that arent like twice as good as me where itd be justified

[hexed nest]

do u get ban for crafting 2h wep this week?

[thick kelp]

yeah permaband

[strange perch]

Yea, have this ick on my head since raid cuz hands went to a monk with 0 pieces too, and hands is really something I won't be able to catalyze

And getting pushed to use 2 catalyst charges means I need at least some hero items

[thick kelp]

guilds should get minimum 2pc

for everyone who is considered for prog

rest is just big help

• hero pieces for catalyst you farm from 10's

[boreal quartz]

What wr is that guild

Out of curiosity

[strange perch]

Doesn't matter

They got ce last tier

[midnight mural]

[slow saddle]

yeah ngl that felt rough

[thick kelp]

big diff between the CE guilds

Could be HoF could be WR 1600

[boreal quartz]

Especially if ce im asking for wr

[strange perch]

Idk who spread the rumour that 4 set is not worth and it's most likely coming from someone

Cuz it was another warr that said that

[boreal quartz]

Ask where they have it from

[midnight mural]

at start of expansion was kinda leaning towards just crafting my 2H immediately if i did not loot a 2H weap from my 2nd vault, but im a bit more on the fence about it now... there are SO many weapons in the m+ pool this season, and i will be filling up 3/3 vault slots on m+ row, and most likely within a few weeks i will also be able to get 2/3 vault slots with 2H weap from Stix on Mythic... them crafted pieces looking mighty fine atm.

[boreal quartz]

But if they dont trust your sims or any data you could link from skyhold or whatever

[boreal quartz]

Last raid craft did also feel mega good cuz free uppie on "low" ilvl myth track wep on first boss

[midnight mural]

Hmm.. if i recraft bracers with a socket.. do they keep the socket? I have crafted wrist + belt with a socket from last season. Crafting those to 675 if they keep the sockets would be a massive gain

[sacred zodiac]

if you recraft an s1 item to s2 it loses the socket

[midnight mural]

ah ok

makes sense.. would be wild otherwise 😄

[sacred zodiac]

and you are not killing stix any time soon lol

if you dont vault a weapon by next week it is 99% the correct choice to just craft one

[midnight mural]

You dont think stix is gonna get nerfed even further in the next couple of weeks?

[sacred zodiac]

idk

[magic canopy]

even echo isnt playing warrior and they have revvez and wallife

[thick kelp]

Only if warrior had a way to burst small adds

hmmge

[magic canopy]

secret colossus fatality tech

[thick kelp]

Colossus batlelord activtae

[magic canopy]

im about to doom

[thick kelp]

also they are 3 healing the fight

but 3 sps are each doing 600k hps

hmmge

but its not like any non rwf guild will get to this boss anyway

[magic canopy]

bro theres no way we play like non deft VC fury as a normal human on this fight

just for adds

becuase they shot execute too much

windwalker is one billion percent getting shot in the head after this tier

[boreal quartz]

Ye

[olive nest]

Good thing execute is 15% lower

[maiden notch]

are we sure bis mace is good? it shares cooldown with othertrinkets

[boreal quartz]

It's insane

[maiden notch]

yea, but how doe we play with other use trinkets than

seems scuffed so much

[boreal quartz]

You just prio the trinket

Enjoy the free stat proc

And just rip onuse with cs

[maiden notch]

and in m+?

as colossus same shit?

prio 90sec trinket with avatar and rip the on use

[lofty elm]

Anyone have any crafting recomendations if I've still got a generic heroic track weapon?

[eager sigil]

yes

[vagrant heron]

is mister lock-n stalk a simtrap?

[rose matrix]

I have two questions. During execute phase on colossus do you hold Demolish for warbreak, or just send it? Also do you just send a 20 rage execute if you have no overpower to send?

Talking about M+ build

[wanton sierra]

it will de-sync but you can press it freely

[boreal quartz]

I have it im aware

[wanton sierra]

lucky bastard!! xD

[zenith warren]

675 2h with ascendance+ 639 writhing armor banding wrist/cloak or 2x658 dawnthread lining and save gilded for other upgrades

but that is with 2 sparks so next reset

[vapid pine]

With <30 rage and no Overpower/MS I usually chargeweave. I hold Demolish for Warbreak in execute specifically, but just send it unless it's really close in time outside of execute

[lunar remnant]

So looks like arms at least beats fury on two m+ dungeons

[midnight mural]

I think arms beats fury on overall damage on most dungeons .. all just depends how well you pad with your collateral stacks 😄

[fluid chasm]

guys when is next full spark?

[zenith warren]

next week

[fluid chasm]

not half a spark next week?

cause we only have 1 spark

they usually come in halves

or im stupid

[eager sigil]

you have half a spark rn

[zenith warren]

first week you get full spark then 2 halves iirc

[eager sigil]

• half a spark next week

[fluid chasm]

no i have 1 full spark right now

[eager sigil]

then you didnt do the weekly yet

[fluid chasm]

so im stupid thank you

[eager sigil]

because everyone is at 1.5 so far

[astral yarrow]

unless you were lazy last week

then you'd be at 2 full

[fluid chasm]

xd

[eager sigil]

thats fixed already

[fluid chasm]

the exploit?

hahaha

[astral yarrow]

Did it get reversed for the lazy ones though

[eager sigil]

dont think so

[maiden notch]

what trinkets do you think are the best for m+

[eager sigil]

wowhead has a list of good trinkets

[knotty charm]

why does Prot warrior execute do 3x more damage than arms warrior???

[boreal quartz]

link log

[knotty charm]

Prot>Arms

[thick kelp]

Yeah

[knotty charm]

pressing execute as arms, even with juggernaut, feels like shit

[thick kelp]

Yeah

[sacred zodiac]

holy hell

[dim basalt]

Since when can prot execute @35%

Something isnt right

[knotty charm]

its a talent

[thick kelp]

they have massacre too

all warrior specs do

[dim basalt]

They do? Never noticed lmao

[knotty charm]

if u put all your talents into execute spam on prot

you literally out damage dps specs

especailly fights with long execute phases 35%-0

[thick kelp]

gap widens on HC btw

[knotty charm]

Prot even has Juggernaut. so during execute phase, u are gaining 45% extra dmg on execute, which already does 3x more dmg than arms execute. combined with Booming voice (+20%) and luck of the draw procs (+15%) im critting for 4-5 million each execute

[boreal quartz]

They have ashen jugg no?

Or did that change

[knotty charm]

no, regular juggernaut

[boreal quartz]

I forgor

Ah right the duration jugg

[maiden notch]

does that anwser the question tho?
Eye of Kezan is in the top5 options. But ive heard delve trinketrs are kinda better

[boreal quartz]

Look at their vs our jugg btw

Look buff duration

[knotty charm]

no shit, didnt realize it was even buffed for prot

way more forgiving juggernaut duration

allows the procs of sudden death to keep it going throughout a whole fight sometimes

[boreal quartz]

But they dont have slayer

So it doesnt balance out a tiny bit

[thick kelp]

If arms had 20s Jugg we would be stacking our Jugg from pull

which would make it even worse to get a mechanic and drop it

[knotty charm]

atleast it would actually do damage eventually

[dense vector]

Are there bosses we should be taking fatality? I was seeing some theory crafting

[thick kelp]

Mug and Bandit if you are consistently failing the enrage timer check

are the only potential ones

[fierce atlas]

is there ever any reason to use cleave over slam on ST?

in the slayer build

[compact lantern]

Im trying to think what to get in my vault:
649 Hero Tier
649 Crit/Vers Weapon
(I already have 1 tier piece)
Also next week Im crafting my 675 weapon

[high finch]

guys what would you think would be a good amount of crit% and haste% for arms? like we prio crit but need to be around 25-30% haste too right?

[astral yarrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[noble rain]

Hey guys, as an alt that wont get the last boss weapon, Should i wait and craft 2H weapon? And should i put ascension on it? It proibably will be a better powerspike righ?

[sacred zodiac]

hello aagaard can you help me with a sim question #fury message

[astral yarrow]

ugly gun

equip another

[sacred zodiac]

not wrong..

[astral yarrow]

cant do big dam if not look cool

[light dirge]

Sigh the jumping weapon slam animation for warbreaker was cooler

[sacred zodiac]

disrespectful disagree

explode

[naive sage]

True but I do not dislike the fact that you hit the ground with your weapon

[boreal quartz]

@sacred zodiac has the artwork been aquired

[sacred zodiac]

it has

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902189324341227562/1349724088058384415/image0.png?ex=67d42403&is=67d2d283&hm=bb9a12957f56912df21fa5c114cd9bb6af40573fe1e05ed82441813731ce9303&

long

[boreal quartz]

Not mine actually

Crazy

[sacred zodiac]

wtf

[boreal quartz]

I draw her with glasses trying to mimic the ☝️ 🤓

[sacred zodiac]

@dawn stag

[torn rivet]

yo folks a quick question

do we always use mortal strike when battle lord pops, like is it top prio?

or i dunno i'd like to see some priority list to consolidate some things, cause I feel like I'm not maximizing my throughput and it's a skill issue LUL

[sacred zodiac]

have you checked the wowhead priority

[shy dagger]

Sorry if it was asked a lot, does the set change the priority on overpower? we want to hold it to 10 stacks or we just use it as always

[torn rivet]

actually, I have not. I absolutely forgot wowhead has that.

thanks mate

[sacred zodiac]

maxroll recommends you to play around it, wowhead doesn't care about it

technically its optimal to try to gamble a 4p reset if you have many stacks or are about to run it out but if you dont play around it you'll be fine

[sacred zodiac]

but ye battlelord resets have no special priority other than ms being a really good button to press so most of the time u just press it again

[shy dagger]

Oh alright, i was expecting a bit more of spicyness

[torn rivet]

checks out, i've looked at the prio list as well. Nothing out of the ordinary about what I do

[light dirge]

Honestly that's fair.

[astral yarrow]

just give us legion warbreaker animation back

stomp ground and spikes pop out

[sacred zodiac]

eh this is better imo

the ptr one

[light dirge]

But I guess they don't need two leaps

[astral yarrow]

bro i just want to be able to gauge the size of it

[light dirge]

This tbh

[astral yarrow]

at least could do that with legion warbreaker, but the purple spikes kinda sucked

[light dirge]

Yeah. I'm happy with it anyway I just like the ground stomping thing

I'm biased

[olive nest]

I love the audio file glitching out when gorillion targets are present

[unique bridge]

How far behind is Colossus on ST compared to slayer?

[slow saddle]

Sim it

[thick kelp]

Like 6%

[quaint basin]

Was 4-5% when execute was nerfed, probably still the same

#updates-midnight message

[slow saddle]

Bring back stacks on exe pls

I miss that so much

[sturdy flicker]

What's with warrior being sat on one armed bandit

[misty bridge]

I think the whirlwind and the 1 handed slam is kind of silly

[sturdy flicker]

Kinda shocked

[dim basalt]

They need the add damage

[sacred zodiac]

fight isnt a dps check apparently

need to blow up the adds tho which warrior doesnt do

[latent moss]

surely mugzee will be but eh either way

[sacred zodiac]

surely..

[latent moss]

some class sandbagged

int oblivion

and now we will see 9 of them so

[stoic forge]

Does anyone have a good video guide to Arms for ST? I really can't get into it, my DPS always is super bad in raid and I can't figure out why

[icy mulch]

I did Mug'zee as ST fury. Stayed on boss the whole time and used BS and reap to help kill the adds.

[slow saddle]

Doesnt fury have good burst aoe?

Or are they 2 spread?

[eager sigil]

They are mega spread

[icy mulch]

For Mug'zee, there are very few adds.

[dim basalt]

afaik Fury aoe burst isnt as good as it used to be

Plus windwalker aoe burst is just nutty as fuck

[slow saddle]

Y true

[dim basalt]

They run multiple shadows and locks for the spread adds and windwalkers for the bomb adds

[icy mulch]

Yeah, sadly I can see Windwalker getting the fury treatment.

[dim basalt]

eh dunno

Their ST lacks

[icy mulch]

I mean the S1 treatment.

[dim basalt]

And they dont have good consistent aoe either

Its really just burst

[slow saddle]

Well this means. Warrior might not get super nerfed

[dim basalt]

[slow saddle]

If rwf keeps not using us

[dim basalt]

I wanna see their mugzee comp

If all their warrriors pump like Revvez I dont see them not running at least 3

[orchid panther]

[glossy tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/what-you-sure-you-sure-about-that-dog-watching-gif-26139783

[slow saddle]

hopefully they all play fury and fury takes a hit

[shadow ibex]

Surely arms on mug

[glossy tusk]

Cope main

[slow saddle]

I know...

[glossy tusk]

Im just gonna have fun while it lasts xd

[dim basalt]

Echo playing 2 arms it seems

Unless theyre fury, cant see it in details

[dawn stag]

Im sorry sir i have checked MULTIPLE times now and it seems to have not been uploaded!!!

[dim basalt]

Nah both seem to be arms

[thick hamlet]

you guys think arms needs a nerf?

i mean

if we're being objective about it

u know what, fuck being objective, i want bfufs

[sacred zodiac]

ye probs

[heady marlin]

Arms on par with fury?

[eager sigil]

yes

[viscid nest]

Execute phase with slayer, do I MS after 2 executes every time or just to refresh rend/deep wounds? And also I use OP when I have resets of it right?

[thick hamlet]

i think mortal strike over execute in general unless juggernaut is about to fall off

[eager sigil]

exe exe op ms or exe exe exe ms

depending on rage

[sacred zodiac]

not really no unless you're playing slayer without ep for some reason

[latent moss]

ms with 2x ep

op with opportunist if <85 rage

[sacred zodiac]

this is only a ravager conditional

noob

[quasi torrent]

bro real goats just

play around tier set

[viscid nest]

Ok yeah I was trying out arms on CoC last night on heroic just trying to get my rotation right since I’ve only been really playing arms in M+ and I was doing Execute x2 into MS and using OP resets when they procced

[quasi torrent]

on top

😎

[tacit crystal]

hi spongie

[sacred zodiac]

on cast on crit

hello!

[tacit crystal]

did you see my picture from yesterday

[thick hamlet]

well thijs is getting a little confusing now

[tacit crystal]

i wanted to punch someone

[sacred zodiac]

is it the long cat

[latent moss]

surely

[thick hamlet]

is the current prio list on wowhead?

[sacred zodiac]

it is tho

[sacred zodiac]

yes

[tacit crystal]

#arms message

[sacred zodiac]

lmao get cooked buddy

[tacit crystal]

how much damage do you think i lost

[knotty orchid]

the difference between 100 log and 95 is juggernaut uptime

top kek

[tacit crystal]

i think i lost over 30% of my damage going into lust

maybe more

[sacred zodiac]

actions.slayer_execute+=/overpower,if=buff.martial_prowess.stack<2&buff.opportunist.up&talent.opportunist&(talent.bladestorm|talent.ravager&rage<85)

[latent moss]

ye

[sacred zodiac]

lmao

[latent moss]

fishy found that

which was slightly better

[sacred zodiac]

opportunist minmaxing needs to go explode

fed up with that

[latent moss]

nah bro i fw opportunist rn

5mil op

op FUCKS

with tierset

[latent moss]

giganoob

[tacit crystal]

hey how do i make juggernaut not fall off right before execute

[latent moss]

gionoob57

[knotty orchid]

naah fuck needing luck to maintain juggernaut stacks

[tacit crystal]

bro

[sacred zodiac]

yeah i wis hi had 4p man

[tacit crystal]

I COULDNT DO ANYTHING

[sacred zodiac]

i have every bis item and no 4p get cooked noob

[latent moss]

listen to kaching

and pray

[tacit crystal]

why am i the one punished for extending juggernaut

and swordish lets it drop and never punished

[latent moss]

i get cinderbrew neck and have no heroic upgrades outside of kezan and bis

[tacit crystal]

MANANNNAN

[olive nest]

I tried that word yesterday and got 60 seconds

Rip

[latent moss]

bro i got

like 80 seconds or some random ahh

number

like 77 or something

[olive nest]

[latent moss]

arms is fake anyway

bandit 0 arms

gg

[sacred zodiac]

i want big ms damage

muqzee is 4 arms

look at echo roster

[latent moss]

i cant wallife is flexing his gear

HOOOOOOLY

almost as juiced as anda

[olive nest]

God I don’t want fury to be better because I always choose to play what’s best

And current fury is wicked conditions

[sacred zodiac]

myth wep my king

[sacred zodiac]

maybe 10% of the way there

[latent moss]

real

how can wallife play

with this ui

have u seen it in combat

tracks deepwounds tracks everything

why

[sacred zodiac]

doesnt matter they just #GingiEMP again

grab the victory

[olive nest]

Lmao gingiemp

[boreal quartz]

thats more gear than anda no?

[tacit crystal]

help

[latent moss]

where more arm...

[boreal quartz]

is that the set from plunderstorm or

[latent moss]

prob not

and its way less than tmy

[boreal quartz]

obviously

[sacred zodiac]

they are logging

[latent moss]

pwar???

tbf jugg pwar

goes hard as fuck

[sacred zodiac]

that is the purple plunderstorm set

i wear it 👍

[boreal quartz]

thanks i will attempt to aquire it

[latent moss]

thanks i wont

[boreal quartz]

i hope it is not cancer to get

[sacred zodiac]

plunderstorm is bye bye 👍

[boreal quartz]

oh great

[latent moss]

instead i will attempt to acquire cinderbrew neck

[boreal quartz]

@latent mosssend 11 with little when btw

[olive nest]

Goodluck

[latent moss]

u didnt send it

[olive nest]

I’m like 15 dungeons deep it feels like

[boreal quartz]

no we went bed

[latent moss]

unluck

today ig idk

[boreal quartz]

but i need to do

uhhh

floodgate

[latent moss]

ahahahh wallife trying to find archives quest

i relate with the goat

[boreal quartz]

what archive quest

[latent moss]

the disc fragments or w/e its called

fell off

[tacit crystal]

who

[slow saddle]

5 days 2 2h craft

[eager sigil]

just open vault

[slow saddle]

M8

Took me 12 weeks

Last time

[eager sigil]

yea but theres like 8 weapons this time

compared to like 3 we had last time

[slow saddle]

#doubt

[true ridge]

I'm praying for a myth weapon this week and if not I'm crafting one and not worrying about it

[boreal quartz]

[slow saddle]

Ascendance in my shit guild prob good for prog

[eager sigil]

i have 1 embelishment atm

[slow saddle]

Samd

[crystal nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-walk-gif-11069287247056648607

[fresh spire]

dead

[gray herald]

a classic

[midnight mural]

He dont know what he is missing out on !

[boreal quartz]

i know im missing out on doin any key for vault

[thick kelp]

You dont know what you missed out on when you invited ranger over 2x arms

[midnight mural]

Wasnt my decision 😿

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/plane-memes-meme-animals-brainrot-gif-4980906455793060286

[undone merlin]

how much is our 4 set dps increase in aoe than 0 set

[grizzled estuary]

i found the solution guys im just taggin with pocket healer & tank, works like a charm

[viral garden]

Do you use overpower or ms Prio on AoE situation when Cleave is onnCD ?

[median scroll]

[tacit crystal]

if dn op else ms

[steep osprey]

[rain cipher]

665 ilvl while I am happy reaching 653 😂😂

[summer cargo]

649 ilvl

[grim kernel]

lock-n-stalk trinket sims giga but havent seen much about it. Is that sim bait or is it actually good for M+

[summer cargo]

There no pieces good in dungeons

[boreal quartz]

the key i got into got depleted by mage doin 1.4 mil overall

[tacit crystal]

hey im doing that amount of overall

me when i dont play flamestrike

[silk spade]

never invite pug mages

rule n1

[tacit crystal]

wtf

you would invite me right zhai...

[silk spade]

perhaps

[tacit crystal]

i refuse to play flamestrike though

[boreal quartz]

I didnt invite

[broken arrow]

I've pugged with 5-6 mages on week 1 and only 1 of them did significantly more dmg than the tank. Now my friends don't let me pick mage dps 😄

[boreal quartz]

I said a bad Word describing the mage and got Chat muted

[true ridge]

I thought i was going crazy every mage I've had does between tank and healer dps

[olive nest]

Fire mage did 4M overall in 10cinderbrew last night

He had pi and VDH though

[true ridge]

I guess the good ones rocket up the ranks quick enough I get left with the shit

[cloud gyro]

wait till u see a vaping unholy proc blood beast and do 25 mil dps on a 10 mob pack

[halcyon breach]

You can find awful players in every key level

[rare kite]

nah 99% of mages are garbage. sometimes you meet that one good one tho

[cloud gyro]

You just never invite mages

[true ridge]

Not wrong

[rare kite]

aug and mages are the biggest inters for keys. thankfully aug is just dead

[boreal quartz]

My mage is 1.5m in mechagon

[halcyon breach]

demon

[boreal quartz]

While i do 2.7 on fury

Windfury detected overall deducted

Seriously tho fuck no shamy grp

[halcyon breach]

just go no EP with FB

[olive nest]

2.7 fury is good!

[halcyon breach]

And you wont need rage

[olive nest]

I suck so bad at new fury prio

To many glowy buttons at once

[boreal quartz]

Thane is good

Ja clappa

[rare kite]

you just grab the weakauras and press when sound

[boreal quartz]

Thane prio dam is goodge

Idk if youd ever play a diff style of arms build in workshop

[rare kite]

i play 2x bloodborne as arms. no ep no fb

no touchy execute

[olive nest]

I’ve only run Colo blord with 2x BB

[tawny badger]

do you track winstreak overpower stacks or just ignore it

[halcyon breach]

2x BB is more AoE

[olive nest]

It’s chill and I enjoy it very much

[halcyon breach]

But 1x BB 1x FB is somewhat equal and a lot more comfy to play

[olive nest]

I should try 1x 1x

[halcyon breach]

Don't bother tracking the set

[olive nest]

Although I don’t really feel rage starved on boss that much honestly

[halcyon breach]

If you get a lot of EB procs you quickly feel starved

[zenith harness]

is this week better to play 2 points in BLOODBORNE and remove point from executioners precision and finishing blows ?

[olive nest]

Do you spend eb natty even if opportunist procs at the same time?

[eager sigil]

whats different this week?

[olive nest]

I’ve been letting the EB sit if Opp procs

[halcyon breach]

I don't track Opportunist and don't play Slayer in keys either

[zenith harness]

trash lives longer

[halcyon breach]

So it's not something I care about in general

[halcyon breach]

It lives the same amount of time

[eager sigil]

true

[rare kite]

technically no. but who plays slayer in keys anyway

[olive nest]

Am I losing my mind? As Colo my op procs all the time

[halcyon breach]

If anything trash dies faster this week, because people have more gear

That's from Tac resets

[rare kite]

thats tactician, not opportunist

[olive nest]

Holllyyyy

I’ve been Inting

This warrior doesn’t read

I hit glowy button

[zenith harness]

so thats a no ? 😄

[halcyon breach]

It doesn't really matter much if you play 2x BB, 1x BB FB, or EP + FB

[eager sigil]

can tell you that it wont a make a difference if you time a key or not

[halcyon breach]

EP is a bit more boss damage, the two other is more AoE

[olive nest]

The glowing bars around character is tactician proc and not opportunist

[halcyon breach]

Play any variation you want to

[olive nest]

Dps about to skyrocket

[zenith harness]

thanks 🙂

btw strenght of arms is still the go to talent, right ?

[halcyon breach]

Yes

[tired pecan]

My sims are telling me not to run much haste since I got my tier set, how true is this

[latent moss]

as true as it gets

more true than anything anyone in this discord can say

unless for some reason simulationcraft is cooked

[hot river]

would anyone mind showing me their overall breakdown in m+? know it varies but just want a rough idea as fury main

[halcyon breach]

Depending on the dungeon, Cleave, Demo and Mortal strike well ahead of the rest in the top 3

[latent moss]

aoe heavy cleave>demo>ms

[halcyon breach]

You can't really gleam much more from it than that

[latent moss]

st heavy ms>demo=cleave

like in top

[halcyon breach]

This was from a run I just had in a +10 Cinderbrew

[latent moss]

not much aoe in that dungeon

[latent moss]

cleave my beloved

they really made it fuck with this expac

[halcyon breach]

Maybe a bit too much

[latent moss]

idk i dont mind it personally

i like the rotation

[halcyon breach]

Not same

[latent moss]

cd and colossal might kinda cbt at times

[halcyon breach]

Colossus just doesn't flow well for me at all

It does damage admittedly

But I don't like playing it

[sacred zodiac]

debunked to have been an edited details log

[halcyon breach]

I will debunk and explode you soon

[sacred zodiac]

try harder next time

[halcyon breach]

For being lootfed and being a dayraider

[latent moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/937179772138688652/1282084481079181485/togif.gif

[strange perch]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-oh-stinky-monkey-gif-15325836

[verbal marten]

whats weps

[halcyon breach]

665 punisher

[verbal marten]

ur cranking

i havent been able to do many keys as dps\

ive been forced to tank

[halcyon breach]

Have not done a single key as tank and don't intend on either

[verbal marten]

but ive got this

and house of cards

[verbal marten]

bro

prot does so much

its actually fun

[halcyon breach]

meh

I don't like prot

Damage doesn't matter to me

[sacred zodiac]

stop posting loot in #arms banezi will time you out for 0.2 seconds cause he didnt receive mythic big red button

[halcyon breach]

I will receive it in 2 hours

[verbal marten]

banezi doesnt hate me

[sturdy matrix]

is that better than myth track dungeon weapon?

[sacred zodiac]

the m+ one

[verbal marten]

best in slots can be better then mythic crafted

[halcyon breach]

I will receive it in however many hours till next reset

[sacred zodiac]

why didnt they make both big red buttons have a 2 set

[sturdy matrix]

what about myth track, not crafted

[sacred zodiac]

it would have been very funny

[verbal marten]

wait do u mean the trinket from ml?

[sacred zodiac]

ye

[verbal marten]

why do u want that

[latent moss]

why not

would be funny

2 big red buttons

[sacred zodiac]

cause its funny

see john mcafee agrees wit hme

[dim basalt]

rookie numbers

[jagged goblet]

Bros wtf happened I'm trying to get my 10s done and all of a sudden no one wants to invite a warrior

[ripe quartz]

Go prot for insta invite

[verbal marten]

wdym all of a sudden

where have u been these past 4 years

[jagged goblet]

Lmfao dude I thought this was our season. Climbing to 2350 has been a breeze for invites

[verbal marten]

2350 isnt even all 10s

thats why

[jagged goblet]

Yea it's all 9s

[severe carbon]

I saw somebody with a crafted two handed axe, isnt it suppose to be available by next week?

[analog pumice]

hi , is it recommended to use best-in-slots weapon on use together with house of cards trinket? like activate the weapon first then trinket after 20 sec?

[olive nest]

They were able to abuse a bug yesterday that allowed two sparks this week

[analog pumice]

or do you wanna get 2 passive trinkets

[olive nest]

Afaik it’s been fixed

Once you craft a spark the quest turn in gets grayed out

[severe carbon]

damn, they fixed the bugged by now?

[olive nest]

Worked all morning/afternoon yesterday and in the evening somebody in this chat was saying that it grayed out for them after creating the spark in their inventory

So I’m going to assume it is no longer possible until someone says otherwise

[valid sage]

I did this, didnt know how to tank. It wasnt fun, and the healer said he blocked me 😦 was fun dmg though, it kinda pops

Probably didnt help I just jumped into a 10 Flooded with the mindset of «meh how hard can it be, I thunderclap and hold aggro»

[true ridge]

Oh shit I was gonna do this tonight

[rare kite]

flows nice than slayer imo. but that might be bias as juggernaut hatred overshadows everything for me

[true ridge]

Do we not?

I mightve pressed revenge a couple times too though

[valid sage]

Just do it, remember to use ignore pain sometimes to not piss of your healer though

But ye aggro wasnt an issue at all

[true ridge]

Bet ill forward them to this conversation when we are 15 minutes over

[valid sage]

Haha good plan

No but for real, prot was fun, I just wish I read a guide first

[analog pumice]

can anyone help to solve my trinket problem , how can i allign the best in slots weapon effect with trinket

do i delay my trinket use for 20 sec

or just use 2 passive trinkets

[olive nest]

Shield block 100%, shield slam on cd, thunderclap on cd, ip or revenge

It’s chill Zug spec

I dig it

[latent moss]

revenge spam ezpz

dont need ip

[true ridge]

I have always wanted to tank but I flap when I get there, only dps since cata got me stressed

[latent moss]

cast it once and brutal vitality keeps it going

cinema spec

[halcyon breach]

I just really do not like having a 7 step opener to start doing damage

And Demolish on its own makes me hate Colossus

[shy yoke]

do we sim with or without BL? are we going with 1 patchwerk boss for 5 mins for ST and 5 targets or dungeonslice for m+? i didn’t find any recent clue/guide/post. i’m mostly playing m+ but i’m under the impression that if i only sim 5target 2 mins no BL, I might kill a big portion of ST.

[olive nest]

Banezi how could you!!

Colo owns

[halcyon breach]

ok have fun when you get out of range by 2 meters and your demolish is cancelled

goodbye 40 mill damage

stops forced movement? hello 3rd boss meadery

[latent moss]

a lot more than 40 mil

[olive nest]

Oh don’t worry I know

I’ve been experiencing that quite a bit a lot..

Thanks tanks

[verbal marten]

shockwave into demolish

ez dmg

[olive nest]

🧠

[latent moss]

shield wall for short ava

into demolish

[halcyon breach]

I was being very conservative

[olive nest]

Banezi conservative confirmed

[latent moss]

pug tanks and colo

make me want to

[olive nest]

😱

[latent moss]

say things in chat

house of cards from box?

jastor diamond?

tw one

bis?

HOLY

MOLY

[olive nest]

Imagine house of cards goes to mage for 20k instead warrior for 50k

[latent moss]

HOOOOOOOOOOLY

5.4 MASTERY

[verbal marten]

this ting?

[olive nest]

Mastery of the spec achieved

[true ridge]

Holy +1 luck

[latent moss]

what is that luck shit

[olive nest]

Yep

[true ridge]

Meme stat

[olive nest]

Died a little inside

Ngl

[latent moss]

fake trinket

never seen it

[verbal marten]

hehe

got it on first hero kill

[latent moss]

yap yap

[verbal marten]

wanna see something else

[latent moss]

hello guys im anda and i get all the loot ahh

[olive nest]

Hollyy!

[latent moss]

how is fyralath 535

[latent moss]

what is that

oh

s4

[olive nest]

He’s got two btw

[latent moss]

wait people played s4 xd

[olive nest]

Note

[verbal marten]

s4 fyralath and group drop fyralath

[latent moss]

ye

[verbal marten]

4*

[olive nest]

Hollyyy

[latent moss]

what is wrong with you

[verbal marten]

a lot

[olive nest]

Lmao

[latent moss]

ass

system

[olive nest]

I need to make a in game mog as this tier 2 chill guy

Would go hard

[latent moss]

i need to say things

to tmy

[serene hollow]

So.. ret, bm, and ww are doing giga dam in keys right? I'm getting beat very consistently by those

[hollow plover]

cheeky motherlode 10

love this spec

in keys

[olive nest]

Yes they pump

[dim basalt]

BM not really tbh

And we can compete with ret

[halcyon breach]

pov the destro lock couldn't find his rain of fire button

[reef glade]

pov

[vivid ore]

is our 4p a good increase compared to toher classes?

trying to find a spreadsheet

cant find a good one

[dim basalt]

and ele didnt have his cds bound

[dim basalt]

8%, pretty okay-ish

from 0 to 4p iirc

[vivid ore]

like middle of the pack ish for every class?

[dim basalt]

Something like that

[hollow plover]

pov being a professional hater

[thick hamlet]

is there like a bis list for m+

colossus ofc

[dim basalt]

bis lists are fake

[thick hamlet]

agree

[dim basalt]

sim your char instead

[thick hamlet]

but i need some frame of reference for trinkets specifically

[reef glade]

Pacemaker

From floodgate

then idk like priory signet is ok on use just 2mins cd cringe

[dim basalt]

why does the trinket of sprocketmonger sim so high on aoe

[reef glade]

Idk was told it sucks

[dim basalt]

Its weird

[thick hamlet]

how about from raid loot

kezan i suppose?

[dim basalt]

kezan and house of cards

But Kezan is only worth if you have a decent tank that can chainpull

Otherwise its giga poop

[kindred thicket]

can anyone tell me if arms uses tier gear in the long run?

the set bonuses i mean

[dim basalt]

Why would it not

[kindred thicket]

wow head showing bis items as no set pieces

[dim basalt]

Thats not true

It only does that for the dungeons only setup where set pieces cant drop at all

But for the overall and raid specific setup theres set pieces

[kindred thicket]

it doesnt show any set pieces

[dim basalt]

I can see multiple set pieces on that screenshot

[fresh spire]

Enforcer is our tier

[kindred thicket]

oh wait..

[fresh spire]

[dim basalt]

[kindred thicket]

it wansnt highlighting the text when hovering xD

[fresh spire]

Self report kekw

[kindred thicket]

thanks

[dim basalt]

You were prob hovering over the belt

[kindred thicket]

haha

[dim basalt]

Which has the same name

[olive nest]

Yes that’s absolutely right

House of cards is our best in slot trinket this season

[dire hinge]

and 626 is pretty low comparatively

[mighty bridge]

i just thought it would be more that 2.4% being 40 ilvls higher

[dire hinge]

a single item giving 2.5% increase is pretty significant, across 16 potential slots

[olive nest]

Goes to show how strong our trinkets were

But ye what hrothmar said

[mighty bridge]

ok ty

[gilded basin]

hey friends im totally new to arms and a bit overwhelmed with all the buttons. would it be a big no no to not bind slam or is it necessary?

[dire hinge]

Slam is a good one to have bound, yes

you'll use it a few (tens) of times per boss fight

[rare kite]

would be a very big nono, what you can do though is unbind rend. press thunderclap instead

saves you 1 button

[dire hinge]

there are a few buttons you can bind together in macros, like what Mutou suggested:
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/best-weakauras-macros-addons

• Rend+Thunderclap on one button
• Ravager+Bladestorm on one button
• Charge/VictoryRush is a common one
• All your stances on a single button
• etc.

[gilded basin]

thanks this helps a lot

[gilded basin]

ty!

[dire hinge]

While you don't need a macro for it, you should note that Cleave and Whirlwind replace each other based on talent selection as well (automatic).

[slow saddle]

U gotta slam it

[olive nest]

I’ve had 3 slams in a row quite often

It’s miserable when rng is that bad

[slow saddle]

Slayer does slam s lot

And slam doesnt do horrid dmg

[olive nest]

I think it’s technically optimal to slam
If SD is one charge / no 3x mfe/ jug duration plenty

But like it feels better to SD anyway

Think Krispy said it’s like .2% difference

Iirc

[slow saddle]

I always slam

Coz in my brain bigger chance of extending jugger

Never happens

[zenith warren]

if I make dawnthread cloak I can recraft it with some mats next week to a nerubar one if needed, correct?

[slow saddle]

Check if it goes on cloak

[olive nest]

You can always change crafted items yea

You are never locked into an embellishment

[vivid hill]

It's just so unsatisfying to hit

[slow saddle]

Nah slam is fine

Filler

[olive nest]

But yeah witch embellishments are able to go onto what items does matter

Idk that off the top of my head

[slow saddle]

I know bracers u can switch

But i havent had nerubar on cloak

I mean its a rough tier when revvez is bench

[lofty elm]

does Colossal Smash cleave with SS?

[slow saddle]

Yes

[shadow ibex]

We had to be nerfed

[slow saddle]

Yup

Based on performance before gear

[olive nest]

Imagine that

Who would have guessed that one!?

[slow saddle]

Dno how ww got through

But arms didnt

We are still strong dont get me wrong could be alot worse

[olive nest]

Mid pack meh

[slow saddle]

But collosus could use st buff

Or execute stacks back

[olive nest]

5 jug stacks instead of 15

[slow saddle]

Yes!!!

[olive nest]

3x effectiveness

Shorter duration to maintain

Fair trade

[slow saddle]

Legit would feel way better

Ofc

But like intermission bosses delete our st

Feels horrid

Ideally just dele juggernaut alll together

[olive nest]

Back to 5 stacks in 7-8 seconds

Ez

[slow saddle]

Yeye 5 stacks would help a lot

15 is a lot

Fury has 5...

[shadow ibex]

Nah we had to be nerfed we were so far ahead in sims

[olive nest]

So what look at in practice

We’re getting smoked

[shadow ibex]

Oh yeah I'm being sarcastic

[olive nest]

[thick hamlet]

how's reverb radio for m+ colossus

[shadow ibex]

Ppl here were saying we needed the aura and exe nerf. ST too good

That's why so many wars on mega st boss sprokenstock

[bold granite]

Feel like I don't use overpower enough with this tier set

[dire hinge]

Tier doesn’t impact op usage 🤔

[slow saddle]

Rik goed airborne. No stacks for u

So fury better

[bold granite]

Ik

[visual fern]

@thick kelp

[thick kelp]

[fast plover]

Are you guys spending your gilded on hero stuff this week or saving for myth?

Feels like a complete waste using them on hero track

[mortal rivet]

i always spend runed until i cant spend anymore. Gilded is for mythic gear/crafting

[olive nest]

Agreed, You want to save guilded for myth tier and crafted

[mortal rivet]

and in the ideal world youre only spending runed to get to 658 since you can get 655 from m+

[tribal ember]

I save gilded for recrafting my wep

Before anything else

Mainly cuz I don't raid mythic or do high keys so I usually don't get a lot of gilded early in a season

[dusty inlet]

yo do you guys know of any training dummies that dont fall to execute? im trying to practice outside of execute but im just killing every dummy basically

[mortal rivet]

you can get 31 a week from delves

prot warrior is free 11 delves

[deep moth]

I love seeing all the misspellings of sprocketmonger

[scarlet root]

anyone have the best in slots weapon here mine feels bugged

everytime i keybind it and use the on use the next time its off cd and i go to click it its greyed out for some reason i have to drag it to a bar again to be able to re use it

[verbal marten]

i have this issue where i dont have enough keybinds

[heady spear]

does anyone have a good weakaura to track arms 4p ?

[deep moth]

how do you not have enough keybinds

ctrl shift and alt give you basically 3 keyboards worth of binds

[verbal marten]

i use numpad

so shift doesnt work

for my mouse

[deep moth]

there's a right shift near numpad

[verbal marten]

i think u misunderstand

[deep moth]

And a right ctrl

I must

[boreal quartz]

gate bind is mega ultra premium

insane

[verbal marten]

need it in almost every boss on mythic raid so its just there for my keys cuz i forget tot ake it of lol

[boreal quartz]

i mean i have my on alt a

which works for me

but Q is mega high prio for me bind wise

(atm sks is there for me which is xd)

[verbal marten]

why would u have sks bound

shouldnt even talent into it

[thick kelp]

Musclememory

cant move

binds

even if u dont use them

[glossy tusk]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

boss was in oil during lust and cds :))))))))))))))))))

[scarlet root]

not bad for a nloob

[glossy tusk]

same but i wish they moved so i could blast on first boss REEE

[olive nest]

My guy

You played fury on the arms boss

Go fix that

[shadow ibex]

im surprised no war on bandit kill 😦

[knotty creek]

and arms on fury boss isnt stix much better as fury

Maybe thats wrong idk

just how i felt

[lean geode]

Depends on your raid comp

[slow saddle]

Ww is bettrt

[dim basalt]

I fucking hate this 4p already

I legit sit on 10 stacks 75% of the fight

[sharp tendon]

hmm arms ST build feels so meh we dont have much abilty's

[slow saddle]

What?

We have enough abilities

[knotty creek]

I love arms st

[slow saddle]

Just delete juggernaut

[knotty creek]

[sharp tendon]

hate to press slam

[slow saddle]

Slam is fib

Its a filler

[sharp tendon]

we dont even have thunderclap anymore

[slow saddle]

Just take tc?

In st

Costs nothing

[shadow ibex]

Costs your soul

[sharp tendon]

suck they nerfd exe 😄

[slow saddle]

Id take the exe nerf if they reworked juggernaut id be happy

[sharp tendon]

arms need a rework in overall remove slam get some nice other filler in and buf sks

[slow saddle]

Nah slam is good

[grim kernel]

should i feel bad losing to sub rouges

or sub rogues are busted

[slow saddle]

No

[grim kernel]

my boy i run with i cant fuckin beat him

[slow saddle]

Sub is very strong

[grand idol]

I see the problem. You weren't locked in for those bosses.

Gotta lock in

[floral ledge]

hi guys

[torn rivet]

yo bois, in for the kill vs test of might?

or is it preference

[faint fog]

so if youre like a pug hero and you never have anyone to play with no guild, literally out here in the trenches do you guys think arms would be better than fury just for the sole fact of pugging? like does arms look better than fury to a player that has no fucking idea about wars?

[tropic eagle]

you just said it yourself they have no clue

if thats the case clearly they dont know what looks cooler you are just a brown name to them

all that tells him you are a class without CR or heroism

[faint fog]

yeah but the vast majority of the player base like shakes out dps invites eventually and im just thinking since arms does more on packs

like visually more dps on just trash

that pug players would be like oh shit arms wars crank way harder than fury

[grand idol]

Fury. Classic Cody's will associate classic warriors and people who pay attention to the current world first raiding will know Echo has been running two fury.

Either will perform well.

[dim basalt]

I mean they also have used arms now

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[faint fog]

i am much more fluent at fury but i can play arms just fine but ig it just doesnt seem like theyre like too super far apart in damage?

besdies on like big packs of like 8+ mobs

then arms just pisses on fury

or am i wrong

[tropic eagle]

arms is better atm in M+

[faint fog]

thats pretty much my main focus

its not as like noticeable as like s4 of df

where fury was ass af and arms tore shit up

[vital hedge]

hey friends, when do we use best-in-slots and house of cards? trinket with avatar and weapon meanwhile?

[grand idol]

Its a relatively small buff. Smaller than cards so your first inclination is correct. I believe the sim just sends it immediately when the trinket icd ends.

[glossy tusk]

havent done it yet

or now i did

got 84 as arms

[vital hedge]

Thank You

[thick hamlet]

are adds ignored in the logs for vexie?

[grand idol]

The healing ones might be since they get rid of themselves.

[rigid flicker]

hey guys, sorry to interrupt, just leveled my warrior, and plan to main it alot, i see quite a split in terms of spec, which one is more sustainable to play currently, are there any pros and cons to playing arms or fury at low to high keys?

[mortal rivet]

pretty sure arms is stronger at higher keys due to the fact that fury is target capped

[lime otter]

just tried to queue up for any 6 / 7 key as 645. For 2 hours. Not a SINGLE invite 😄

[olive nest]

Gotta 10s week 1 or feel the pain unfortunately

It’s just the nature of a score system

[shadow jacinth]

yarp

[lime otter]

its the nature why im gonna quit playing week 2

Sadge

[shadow jacinth]

i feel ya, i am 648 qued for 2 hours on 6/7s got one invite, group met up at the dugeon, leader quict the group. GG

[olive nest]

Push your own key up and run whatever you get

It’s more annoying to farm items

But atleast you get to play

[lime otter]

ye i guess, im gonna try that tomorrow

so sad man

[shadow jacinth]

I end up tanking to get gear

[lime otter]

unlucky xD u got 1 More invite then me tho!

[shadow jacinth]

easiest way but you gotta learn routes and tank mech

[lime otter]

ye i guess

[grand idol]

nah, you just stand and tank everything as prot in anything below 10

[lime otter]

just sucks since i really wanna play arms

[hexed snow]

anyone got the new tier set wa?

[lime ruin]

anyone not able to find certain dungeons in lfg?

[dim basalt]

Check your filters

[lime ruin]

where's that at

nvm found it

zz

[olive nest]

Play arms and just stick it out

Don’t make yourself play something you don’t want to

[lime ruin]

arms has no brez or lust so they aren't as prio it's hard to get in as dps

just make own keys

[olive nest]

Not only that but fire mage/ BM hunter/ WW will show up all doing 4M overall

So there’s that

[dim basalt]

Arms does 4M overall too tho

[olive nest]

Yeah but with less group benefit

[nova marsh]

Thus we are trash

[lime otter]

Yeah i guess trying to push my own key is something i can try

[scarlet spade]

what is better ring guys? one circle and one hc, or two hc?

[dim basalt]

sim

[olive nest]

Aren’t all rings circles?

[lime ruin]

wait

why doesnt warrior have lust

that makes too much sense

Battle cry or somethin

rally the troops

[olive nest]

I don’t want it

Take away all group utility and increase my damage by 50% ez

[nova marsh]

Arms should be top dps evrey raid or it's useless

[lime ruin]

you will have 3 minute CD rally and you will like it

[nova marsh]

[latent moss]

it does make sense from a fantasy perspective but it wouldnt change anything

to make us more desirable we need unique utility

[tropic eagle]

God I love arms atm

you can just feel the pumps

the mortal reset cranks ugh!

[fluid schooner]

whats the baseline crit that I need for arms?

[grizzled estuary]

hey guys trying to understand smth regarding the (slayer) ST rotation please
Even if i have a sudden death proc, i should not press exec unless i fall in one of the three conditions in 5 ? I assume it has to come to saving jugg stacks for exec phase?

[floral ledge]

is pre-execute prority

[grizzled estuary]

indeed

[floral ledge]

so yes u basically wait ur add ons to told u when to press it

[grizzled estuary]

wdym, like a WA combining these 3 conditions?

[floral ledge]

yeah , i do one if u want

https://wago.io/LGCQ-r09Z

[grizzled estuary]

pog thanks

something to recomend for this pls?

Overpower with Opportunist, rage <85, and <2 stacks of Martial Prowess

[floral ledge]

if u have less than 85 rage and u don't have 2 stack of martial prowess

because it can't go higher than 2 martial prowess

u know

[grizzled estuary]

yes i was planning to do it by myself (building the WA), but worth asking

thanks mate

[floral ledge]

np

[verbal marten]

rate mog

[faint fog]

so as arms we shoot for the 2 crafted pieces that give the dawnthread embellish over wep with ascension set up?

and just hope for a best in slots

[dim basalt]

If you dont get a weapon for vault you craft weapon