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halcyon breach
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Why RA Fury

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If anything AM Fury is punished by uptime

midnight mural
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I mean when you have both Revvez and Wallife LETSGOOO

astral yarrow
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We have to stop dps on boss and add in the other end of the room dies too fast deadge

vapid pine
rare kite
misty sandal
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Why would we?

shadow ibex
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Have 2pc. Watched 2 tier token go to rogue just to sit in bags this week.

lean geode
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There's a couple small updates to the APL I have pushed locally but haven't opened a pull request to the main repo for yet. There's also a bug I'm aware of regarding how SD duration is tracked for arms, but that'll be a bear to fix and doesn't matter THAT much anyways

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Oops that was supposed to @dim basalt

dim basalt
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It was just something small I noticed when looking at the screenshot but I was wrong anyway

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I havent tested wowa myself

icy mulch
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I'll hopefully have 4pc next week.

midnight mural
midnight mural
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Rude :[

shadow ibex
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Instead got 2 tier in raid to not equip during raiding until farming hero gear after raid is done ig

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Completely wasted as we wipe to a boss while we lack dam

dim basalt
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Where you at?

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Gally?

icy mulch
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I got thrown in to tank heroic Mug'zee. Kind of a joke gimmick boss till 40%.

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So of course we don't have the dps to kill.

shadow ibex
dim basalt
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Damn

shadow ibex
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Good thing we threw the only potential 4pc week 1 in the trash

icy mulch
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I think Bandit is actually harder than Mug'zee.

dim basalt
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Only the first adds are kinda bad no? The other ones are cc'able

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We had 10 wipes on Bandit, most of them due to bombs or because someone picked up a coin and didnt use it lol

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But its lowkey awful when the bombs re-target and the one in front of you wants to blow you up

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Only awful pulls until the kill

icy mulch
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Bandit just has so much shit going on that healers and tanks start to panic.

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Actually the vast majority start to panic.

dim basalt
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I think what made it a lot easier for us was to not send the coins back to the boss to refresh the damage buff

shadow ibex
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The bombs that chase

dim basalt
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Not sending the coins back is more of a damage gain because there will always be people getting hit lol

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Also no idea why the stun is like 6s long

icy mulch
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They don't stack anyways.

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It's still training for mythic though.

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Get use to em cause they're gonna be needed to hit the adds.

dim basalt
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Training for mythic doesnt matter tho

charred brook
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I was like the 1st or 2nd arms warr to public log a kill and I was like 640 ilvl so I have a 100 ilvl parse and like a 40 todays parse 🤣🤣

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For mugzee

shadow ibex
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The rogue receiving tier to then not equip it was just too much tho

dim basalt
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ye thats bs

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Especially with how good their tier is

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(if hes sub)

snow flame
dim basalt
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I see

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I honestly havent paid too much attention on how what works

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I just zugzug

quasi torrent
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@rare kite rude

hollow plover
dim basalt
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Being too slow okayge

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I still didnt spec Cleave tho, big waste

quasi torrent
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šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

shadow ibex
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Yea gotta kill them but we just didn't have the damage for it

lean geode
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<@&257983573498265600>

fresh spire
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<@&257983573498265600>

lean geode
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Fishy trying to steal my gift card

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Rude

fresh spire
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i already clamed it

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came with hot babes too

lean geode
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Fuk

fresh spire
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they took my money though

lean geode
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Unlucky

slow saddle
latent moss
rare kite
naive sage
dawn prairie
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theater of pain is def a pain one of the dungeons i struggle with

latent moss
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nah top is ez af

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bro idk i kinda fw these dungeons

dawn prairie
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i do but theater of pain is crazy lol

latent moss
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priory is the only one i dont really like

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paladins need a nerf

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i feel

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3 paladin pull

sacred zodiac
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press spell reflect noob

latent moss
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yeah its just rough

dawn prairie
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give them a nerf and give us a buff

latent moss
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cinderbrew also

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and floodgate

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those 3

ocean creek
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Had 3 cinderbrew bricked keys in a row. Tanks pulled half of the room with the boss 🤣

dawn prairie
latent moss
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with slayer

sacred zodiac
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what

latent moss
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on st

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ravager over bladestorm is it still a thing

sacred zodiac
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yes we have just discussed this

latent moss
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idk if they fixed it

viral locust
sacred zodiac
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it is very much still a thing

latent moss
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ok ty spingus

sacred zodiac
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roughly the same overall dam but u hit so much harder in execute

viral locust
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And that pull only works without chewie + uncapped aoe classes with lots of aoe stops

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Took a BM hunter he did like 30m DPS must be nice

latent moss
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just gonna go rav to fuck harder in burn phase

sacred zodiac
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ok u dont play ravager arms against that

latent moss
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when does it phase even

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isnt it 35 or close to it

sacred zodiac
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whenever ppl drive the bikes into boss

latent moss
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ahh

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idk how the boss works tbh

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im jut gonna freestyle it

sacred zodiac
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boss has 6

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6 bikes hit boss

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damage amplification phase!

latent moss
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spear time cluegi

sacred zodiac
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slay the monsters (stand in the oil to achieve this)

latent moss
sacred zodiac
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unironically

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it does no damage

proper iron
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Boys. how come the weapon [Electro-Arm Bludgeoner] has lower max damage that all other weapons in this season?

latent moss
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max damage doesnt matter

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they all have same weapon dps

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which is what matters

proper iron
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cool

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ye ofc

calm hollow
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actually, no they dont have

latent moss
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i check all 1/6 champ

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all 2,777

calm hollow
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one is 0.1 dps higher

latent moss
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ye but 3,315 dps

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min damage is higher max is lower

calm hollow
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wait a minute

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i just checked and they had different dps

soft viper
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mace things

calm hollow
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and now they are the same

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weird

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it even says it has more

latent moss
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blizz at its finest

calm hollow
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well not like 0.1 dps matters at all

latent moss
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ye

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greater ember of fyralath jumpscare

latent moss
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thoughts

calm hollow
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kinda cursed

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i need more crit and less haste, but sims doesnt really want me to lose too much haste... kinda cursed too

latent moss
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haste is just

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massive

sacred zodiac
quasi torrent
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what

latent moss
hexed snow
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@quasi torrent sorry for personal ping but I read entire Slayer APL and I actually somehow understood it better than guides

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šŸ˜‚

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It just took a small while to understand what like debuff.<spell>.up means

quasi torrent
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as i said

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syntax

hexed snow
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Yel

plucky flicker
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Hey guys how good is the codex trinket from top ? It sims poorly(it's losing to Transmitter) but on wowhead it says bis from the dungeons

hexed snow
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Yep

sacred zodiac
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grim codex is ass but outside of seaforium the dungeon trinkets just kinda suck

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this is your wake up call to understand that bis lists arent real lol

latent moss
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bro

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I DONT WANT TO DO DELVES

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for my trinekts

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funhouse lens looks insnae

sacred zodiac
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get in the delves bitch

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i have an explorer track lens

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hell yea

latent moss
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and that mechano amplifier

sacred zodiac
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u are doing 8x 8+ delves every week to receive amplifier

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if ur not im telling ur gm

silk spade
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simply acquire the trinket

latent moss
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DESPAIR

sacred zodiac
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im actually logging in to do my 8th delve for the week (fun)

latent moss
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i need to farm coffer keys

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how to farm them the fastest

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im doing some wqs that drop them

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atm

silk spade
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worlsould thingy x5

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and wq

sacred zodiac
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surge pricing was 1

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doing 3 delves gives u 1

latent moss
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can u transfer undercoins

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between chars

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i need like 200 and my alt has it

sacred zodiac
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dont think so

latent moss
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cringus

latent moss
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i will instead complain for the rest of the patch

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that m+ trinkets are shit

toxic socket
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xD

latent moss
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no

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same ilvl ring with heavy haste

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sims for 30k more dps

plucky flicker
latent moss
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priory one is cringe

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2min cringer trinket

toxic socket
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sat at this atm

latent moss
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viscera is unironically decent

plucky flicker
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Demolish,WB and Rav

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You can kinda line it up

latent moss
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ye but imagine u have house of cards and u just macro it and forget

sacred zodiac
plucky flicker
sacred zodiac
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go delve and you will get a trinket that will last you until you kill m gallywix

latent moss
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xd exactly

plucky flicker
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I don't know if I can get delve trinket from vault because there is myth gear from it

quasi torrent
plucky flicker
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Have to just keep using transmitter ig till I get a raid trinket

sacred zodiac
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farm a seaforium and grab a funhouse lens if you get one from delves/house of cards

sacred zodiac
plucky flicker
latent moss
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spoingus do i need bountiful delves for vault and what level do they need to be for myth track

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or hc track w/e

plucky flicker
quasi torrent
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8

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not bountiful

sacred zodiac
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is the number i did

latent moss
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7

latent moss
# sacred zodiac 7

Visit the Trading Post in Stormwind or Dornogal to collect your rewards!

sacred zodiac
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No

hexed snow
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I love fairy transmog

plucky flicker
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Two passive trinkets but still

quasi torrent
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mayhaps sim your character

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instead of looking at a generic list šŸ‘

plucky flicker
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Well I did it says radio and seaforium

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But there's chance that's because my haste is not really hot rn

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Hopefully they don't go cringe mode and nerf the delve trinkets more

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If they want to balance trinkets just buff dungeon ones a bit

hexed snow
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How accurate are sims? Not a question if I should use it or not but just wondering the % as I've not read so much about it

rare kite
rapid bronze
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let's goooo 1st heroic floodgate run

hexed snow
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Oufff

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Been farming that now

abstract verge
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Guys quick question, someone that has both curved and 2000rio can confirm u get catalyst for each achievement

abstract verge
abstract verge
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Damn

rapid bronze
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I have pvp and KSM and yeah it's only 1

abstract verge
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Ffs

trim lintel
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it has always been like that

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xdd

lean geode
lean geode
rare kite
severe wraith
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So I got Best in Slots on our HC kill and would like to know if there's any recommended usage scenario. Right now I'd rather use House of Cards during Avatar and macro BiS to Colossus Smash for the next use, but not sure if that's the way or if it's better to wait for a "normal" BiS procc and THEN use it to get double stats

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Any idea?

abstract verge
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And wanted to check

high spindle
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what m+ level does it drop hero track items?

abstract verge
tired sinew
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did i miss something?

rapid bronze
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No sorry I meant the first one that drops heroic ilvl

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Catalyst is still every two weeks right? One of my guildies had some disinformation saying it was every week now

tired sinew
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ohhhhhhh u almost had me there :/ hahaa

hard cedar
smoky kayak
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it then changed to just 1 from any of the three, similar to previous achievements

abstract verge
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Sad but understandable

smoky kayak
rapid bronze
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Thank you sir

regal mulch
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HI Guys hope you all are ok

quick question, anyone knows if delver maps, can drop from any bountiful or non buntiful delves?
any level?

fresh spire
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any above 4 i think

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but gets higher chance to drop at end higher you go

regal mulch
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Kk ty!

grand lark
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Hi everyone, what do you recommend for raid arms or fury? Ty

olive nest
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Witchever you prefer

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Both are great

zenith warren
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so in theory for a greater chance for hc bestinslots better not to kill last 2 bosses or loot table doesnt work like that anymore?

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in vault I mean

boreal quartz
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correct

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but youd also lock yourself out of eye of kezan

olive nest
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My guild went first 6 hc and myth vex for that reason

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Also the fact that we prob couldn’t do hc gally yet Kek

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With more time surely

empty pike
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Guys, is there any aura for the tier set conditions?

olive nest
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Are you wanting to hear a alarm when you’re supposed to press OP or just track the stacks/duration?

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Or both

sacred zodiac
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the public apl doesnt play around tier at all afaik

olive nest
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Btw op procs

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Sounding an alarm

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Would be turbo annoying

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They proc constantly

wicked onyx
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How is arms performing

boreal quartz
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good

viscid nest
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Anybody know how not running EP would affect execute phase for arms in M+ build? I’ve been messing around with 2 points in bloodbourne and was curious

sacred zodiac
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youd just replace slam with execute and play like normal

shadow ibex
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Exe becomes mega last prio

latent moss
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it just replaces slam

shadow ibex
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You'd only use it when no OP or MS

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You gonna sit capped a lot but doesn't matter

latent moss
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exhil procs will eat ur rage

mighty lance
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did they fix the ring exploit?

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I just tried it and got a lower ring back

latent moss
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happened to a friend as well a few days ago but didnt for me idk

shadow ibex
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I run FB right now but would probably swap to bloodsurge for aoe rage

mighty lance
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Lol

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Thats fuckd

shadow ibex
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Fb is nice in ST tho

latent moss
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havent played with a shaman so idk

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xdd

shadow ibex
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Me either

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I love colossus in m+ but man execute feels wrong

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I wish we had some other talents to take at the bottom and mid

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Cleave X cleave X cleave X cleave X is getting tired

rancid solstice
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You can fit EP into a Colo m+ build.

boreal quartz
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it just plays like dogshit

shadow ibex
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I don't see the value in EP really. Spend two awful globals to boost MS or just hit some MS instead

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And it's probably a wash. The dpr of 3 mortal strikes vs dpr of x2 exe and an ms

rancid solstice
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I wouldn’t spam it its more that your filler (execute) is now buffing your MS

shadow ibex
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I'm not gonna do the math fuck that but it feels accurate

rancid solstice
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It probably doesn’t move the needle much but my bleed dmg is low, I play SD and EP, if I was spamming 10+ I’d probably take BB

shadow ibex
strange perch
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@boreal quartz @latent moss what do you guys think unhinged or hurricane? I feel like with the new tierset unhinged could be better lmk

rancid solstice
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Yeah it’s not the best. But without EP execute feels way worse

finite topaz
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Hey guys I was thinking of a couple ways to make Slayer more appealing to play in mythic+ so let me know what you think.
First off Sudden Death having a % chance (I was thinking 50 but may be high) of triggering Reap the Storm, also Sudden Death being usable during Bladestorm. Juggernaut should also have an increased duration to about 20 seconds as Slayer and then for survivability Overwhelmed can give 1% decreased AoE damage per stack.

rancid solstice
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slayer being able to execute during bladestorm would be sick.

finite topaz
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I mean those two are the main things of Slayer so I thought why not

rancid solstice
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I wanna press anything instead of afk

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Not stormbolt lol

shadow ibex
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Replace dance of death with a capstone that consumes rage to boost BS damage

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So it can actually fuckin do damage

boreal quartz
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slayer is only tied to BS tuning

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nothing in its design is inherently anti m+

shadow ibex
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I think the aoe is a lil unreliable since gotta get reap procs with cleave

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Vs colossus 25% dmg boost and crit amp

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0 rng just button

finite topaz
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That is why I was thinking of having Sudden Death able to trigger Reap as well

rancid solstice
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Yeah that’s pretty much it. Demolish is a big aoe button too whereas bladestorm dmg itself is just low so the cdr isn’t that big

shadow ibex
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Idk why they afraid of letting it do damage

finite topaz
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PvP probably

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That is always Bliz excuse

grizzled estuary
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why 12% vers raidbot Condemned
(i think its because of haste, and unfortunately only have haste/vers pieces)

sacred zodiac
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you can just equip what you want ye

fiery pine
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is tehre an easy way to get

lean geode
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Do 8 tier8 delves every week and pray when you open your vault

fiery pine
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oh god

lean geode
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šŸ™‚

dry summit
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If we look at tier set what preffer pieces would we like? i was thinking Shoulders/helm/chest/legs

dry summit
wild plover
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How do you guys track the execute conditions?

astral yarrow
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yolo

lean geode
hard cedar
livid furnace
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is it worth dropping bloodborne for improves sweeping strikes on heroic Bandit?

hard cedar
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Don't we already drop Bloodborne for Cleave for that fight?

olive nest
slow saddle
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Sd procs reap every time %100 garantuee would be cool

olive nest
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Would be wicked good with slayer Hollyy

slow saddle
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And remove juggernaut

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Worst talent ever

digital sky
slow saddle
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I mean ideally i just want juggernaut to be replaced with the df 4p that did an aoe when u used sd

real birch
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How are you using this trinket? Keep on one mode for raiding when theres no 100% cleave uptime?

queen abyss
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how much of a dps gain is TC over Rend in single target?

quasi torrent
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a negative one

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rend is better

queen abyss
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Sorry meant rend over tc

quasi torrent
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not much

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i would not bother getting a 2nd bind for rend when u have TC speccd

queen abyss
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Thanks, first time learning arms.

tacit crystal
quasi torrent
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fuck ep

tacit crystal
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was checking critcake talents in keys and saw a swap

thick kelp
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😢

knotty orchid
elfin kindle
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can you get Mechano-Core Amplifier from vault? or only drop from bounty

tacit crystal
thick kelp
elfin kindle
thick kelp
elfin kindle
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so from vault too

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ok

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ty

midnight root
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Boy was delvin

gilded spoke
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was Arms nerfed recently? can't find anything in MMO-Champion and Revvez said it was on his stream

slow saddle
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15% on execute just before race

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Well on week 0

gilded spoke
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ye that's the only one I know about

slow saddle
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Nothing more?

gilded spoke
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Revvez said he's playing Fury on Lockenstock cuz Arms got nerfed

slow saddle
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Well the 15%

keen arrow
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Can someone provide me some enlightenment on this. I searched quite a bit with no success on the why behind it. ā€œMortal Strike with 2x Executioner's Precision, but not during Ravagerā€

Why do we not follow that during ravager. I don’t do it because it says but want to know why.

slow saddle
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Makes fury better than arms

slow saddle
boreal quartz
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So you just exe exe op or exe

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Between ticks

keen arrow
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And that counts to proc EP I am assuming

slow saddle
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Ye

keen arrow
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Got it so hunch right confirmed by better players lol. Ty

slow saddle
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Its still insane that rav is closd to a thing on slayer

boreal quartz
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Not better

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Just a knowledge check tbh

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Once you know you know

keen arrow
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He is beginning to believe

olive nest
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During rav you just execute spam to get juiced MS casts yeah?

boreal quartz
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2 exe and then op or exe depends on rage ye

olive nest
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Ahh yeah Phil typed

real birch
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we are not spamming execute as slayer and just ms for wounds and overpower for rage? X:

boreal quartz
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nop

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what ur describing is from df

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without s1 tier u just do ms on cd with 3 globals in between

real birch
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so s1 tier changes stuff? Maybe ive not read the guide properly :X

minor gust
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Even with s1 tier it's still MS on cd you can ignore LB

real birch
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Sorry but what is lb?

shadow ibex
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I just spam exe with ravager ngl the reck from avatar and ravager ticks is infinite rage

boreal quartz
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season 1 tierset

minor gust
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Lethal blows the season 1 tier set

real birch
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Oh welp ... thought s2 set ..

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Ty for poiting out

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And with s2 execute phase is about getting the streak buff and OP / MS over execute then?

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Or also get 2x charged ms?

real birch
minor gust
boreal quartz
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sks doesnt sim playable for me :

smoky kayak
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Yeah it's still part of the priority on the off chance someone plays with it, but it's a not part of the main builds atm

real birch
olive nest
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Sks who??

cobalt dust
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hey guys, does anyone have a weakaura to check how many ombs your in range with ?

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kind alike this

minor gust
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Die SKS Die

untold pewter
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Damn right

gaunt owl
cobalt dust
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this guy is using it

pearl jasper
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are we assuming that the Raid 2H weapon will cost 2 traders coins?

thick kelp
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@sage badge what target in range WA are u using

pearl jasper
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I hope not, want that trinket too

naive sage
slow saddle
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1 token per item

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If not im 100% taking both trinkets instead

sage badge
cobalt dust
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thanks cutie

sage badge
dry summit
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Does anyone know why i have no premission in logs?

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Do i need to get a role?

tacit crystal
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new log channel

upbeat nest
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are we sending two handed craft next week if we dont get heroic best-in-slots?

reef glade
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does next week mean tomorrow or 8 days from now

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cuz cant craft on reset in a day

minor gust
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Won't be able to craft a 2h till the third week of raid

normal pivot
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hi all! if anyone could help me with the basics of using execute? i know i need the three stacks but should i always keep juggernaut up regardless of my stacks? any help would be great šŸ™‚

slow saddle
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Wdym?

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Short answer yes

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Juggernaut should be kept up as much as possible

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But dont send sd procs before u have 2

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To keep up juggernaut

normal pivot
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what if i don’t have 2 sd procs?

slow saddle
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Keep juggernaut up?

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If u get a 2nd u just send

normal pivot
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cool thank you šŸ™‚ i don’t know why im having such trouble with it lol

slow saddle
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M8

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U cant keep stacks up pre exe

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Unless are lucky as fuck!

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Once in a million years

lean geode
normal pivot
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ahhhh i see so you’re just keeping jug up till execute phase?

slow saddle
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If u can

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Thats the goal

normal pivot
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sweet stuff ty sir

signal oak
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Do we just send our on use trinket when we can after BiS?

fathom hollow
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How many adds do people sim m+ for again?

shadow ibex
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5 usually

fathom hollow
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5 adds 1min 30 maybe?

lament ridge
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Is there an execute WA that can play a sound when one of the conditionals is met, for arms?

dim basalt
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yes

lament ridge
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Mind sharing a link if you have one handy?

dim basalt
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With ctrl + f you can use the search

lament ridge
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I wasn't sure which keyword to use. I tried a few; didn't think to use slayer SD (was trying execute wa or exe wa, etc.).

latent moss
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best wa maker

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oat

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goat

dire hinge
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tru tru

minor gust
dire flax
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Whats up, Guys. My Name is Juan and im having several problems playing with warrior arms.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en_us/character/us/illidan/Sadyo my profile if u guys want see what i have.
I have a total ILVL of 464, but I keep losing DPS to people with ilvls much lower than mine (absurd amounts of damage). Recently I thought that the lack of tierset could be the reason for my low damage, because when I was with the 4 pieces of the tier set, I gave good damage, but as the weeks went by, I got the 3 pieces of the tier set and my damage dropped in an unimaginable way and I have no idea what to do to return to the top of DPS.

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hollow stone
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Guys do you think its value to kill the 4p for 2p 2p ?

minor gust
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sim it

dire flax
civic path
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should I craft my weapon 675 ? or going for my 2 embelishs

dire hinge
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i'd recommend waiting until after vault to see if you get a myth track weapon / tier options and go from there

civic path
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thanks

dry summit
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This is me compared to a rank 1 arms warrior. im right he is left. his kill time is 1 minut less and for some reason he casted 10 more mortal strikes then me. and i feel like im already spamming it.

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1 minut less kill time and having 10 more MS is kinda insane ngl

tough pond
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Got a good amount of MS resets

dry summit
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yeah prob.

tacit crystal
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check casts

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see how many resets you both got

vital prairie
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hey returning to the game, what profssions should i aim for

dire hinge
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whichever ones you like šŸ™‚

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has no bearing on gameplay

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at least get cooking though, so you can make food that persists through death

vital prairie
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not even engineering?

dire hinge
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if you want to

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dont have to though

knotty creek
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Is overpowered supposed to be that low

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when I look at sims overpowered is like crazy much higher

dire hinge
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sims lump Dreadnaught into OP together as one spell

knotty creek
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ah

dire hinge
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(if taken)

rare kite
knotty creek
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if not?

vital prairie
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ty

knotty creek
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sims tell me this

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damage breakdown of my fight is this

minor gust
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looks like you just had a nice extended execute phase

knotty creek
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yea but overpowered is supposed to be higher no?

hexed snow
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how long is the fight vs the sim

knotty creek
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5min 49 sec fight

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5min sim

dire hinge
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both single target?

knotty creek
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yes

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im gonna sim again to make sure

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yupp

dire hinge
knotty creek
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yea will do it when I Get logs

hexed snow
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Yeeee Id like to see the logs

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You have double the mortal strike casts

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šŸ˜‚

dire hinge
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sim breakdowns don't line up to details breakdowns

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ie: sim puts the Unhinged-generated MS casts under Bladestorm for example

knotty creek
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yea getting logs give me a sec

dire hinge
hexed snow
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Hence why waiting 4 logs chatting

dire hinge
hexed snow
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Any1 watching race 2 world first?

dire hinge
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race to world third?

inland drift
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how do i check what rank am i on realm for my spec?

dire hinge
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(shoutout to the QA squads)

dire hinge
inland drift
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ty

dire hinge
hexed snow
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They need to hire me as a dev for blizzard

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Just so I can leave and tell you how shit it is

dire hinge
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then you'd have to live in Anaheim sad_cat

hexed snow
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Sec

sweet kindle
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is arms currently better than fury in raid and mythic plus?

inland drift
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i've had more fun with fury slayer in raid, and arms collosus in m+

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play and se whatcha like

sweet kindle
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in M+ i prefer arms tbh but in raid i find the rotation weird as slayer :/ but im just wondering talking about raw damage if is worth the extra effort

hexed snow
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But just taking a snapshot - We seem to have pretty similar?

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I cast rend a bit more and have 98% uptime, while yours is 83%

knotty creek
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forget to look at it

lean geode
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Arms in M+ probably better aoe and overall, but fury is better prio/boss dam.
Arms in raid better execute and 2t cleave, and less impacted by target swapping, but fury is (very) slightly better pure single target and add cleave

inland drift
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yup

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idk how fury got so much better in st than aoe

teal fossil
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Buffs

zenith warren
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hc bestinslots 60k dps behind 678 m+ weapon should be accurate?

void bay
void bay
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great speech

zenith warren
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yes idd

pearl jasper
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obviosuly that was different because we had so many, but yeah im hoping it works 1 each

icy mulch
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@magic canopy What was that Fatality build you were talking about?

viral locust
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we keeping up with pi'd ele shams now? holy?

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log was 99 sham and 98 me, I can beat them if I improve XD

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we have hope

quaint otter
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We have owns

magic canopy
dense vector
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sims are telling me to drop my tier set fromm last season and just play ilvl

quaint otter
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Yes and

dense vector
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I have 0 new tier so i fell weird about that

knotty creek
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I lost like 60k dps if I did that keks

quaint otter
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S1 sets were giga garbage ass for a bunch of specs

dense vector
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i gain 8k dropping old set

quaint otter
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Like ww or fire mage

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Dont recall arms

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But i just switched items when got hero track ones

granite crystal
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new warrior player here , might be a stupid question but whats the priority when it comes to pressing overpower in m+ ? do i just press it when i cant press cleave/mortal strike ?

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do i Need to press overpower before using mortal strike ?

latent moss
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just filler

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always play strength of arms

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dreadnaught sucks

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on st ms>op>slam

quasi torrent
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DN is so bad its sad

latent moss
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on aoe cleave>ms>op

quasi torrent
latent moss
granite crystal
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So if i get mortal strike proc and cleave up , do i prio cleave or MS ?

latent moss
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so its a damage loss to play it in some cases

latent moss
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if u jjst want damage

austere hamlet
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Ms>op??

latent moss
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if u want to be ethical and the mob u are focusing needs to die

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u can just spam ms

rare kite
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tried arms on one armed bandit for a few pulls. god this spec is ass, remove slayer.

latent moss
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NOW

granite crystal
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Cleave>MS>OP is the prio then ?

latent moss
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in aoe yes

quasi torrent
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kabumm

granite crystal
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for ST , MS - OP - Slam ?

quasi torrent
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u die

latent moss
shadow ibex
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critting with x2 sweeping MS and reducing CD by 8 seconds purpleface

latent moss
quasi torrent
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do NOT play slayer BS

latent moss
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rav slayer is so much better

quasi torrent
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slayer rav is inf better to play

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it loses me like 8k on sim rn

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but im willing to take that 1000%

latent moss
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remove bs from arms

shadow ibex
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arms when it can press buttons peepoBlush

quasi torrent
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Also ur cds line up

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noway!

latent moss
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i have 10% haste

shadow ibex
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wonder how they kill it

latent moss
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bs is like

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4 hours long

latent moss
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aware

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bs sucks so much its not even funny anymore

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tried it in a key

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i swear

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2 colossus cleaves do more damage

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1 with mbg up probably

minor gust
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BS needs to be buffed by an absurd amount and needs to last as long as furys bladestorm to feel good

shadow ibex
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if it fucked it can last long

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i think consuming rage would make not pressing buttons feel bad

minor gust
shadow ibex
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buffing it that much is impossible tho

latent moss
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common w

shadow ibex
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our globals are insane

shadow ibex
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yea thats true i got nothin

latent moss
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i unfortunately did a cinderbrew as slayer

shadow ibex
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just make colossus ST spec

latent moss
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despair to play

shadow ibex
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so we can enjoy

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surely they must do something tho

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short term probably just force us to talent BS like SD but maybe .5

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or on ward even...copium

quasi torrent
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i just walked into a key

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put key in
see im slayer fury cleave
go out
press n
talent spec goes to "colossusy"
walk into key
my col spec has been replaced by a slayer rav spec
walk out again to fix it
don't fix it fully
play half the key without cd or fob
play full key without wb

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so i lose to b*nezi

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cba

shadow ibex
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is it just pray for reaper procs

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its funny that all the BS CDR may as well not exist for how powerful the spec is

quasi torrent
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nah i was col again

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I played half a pull as slayer

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im not playing slayer arm in a key fuck off

shadow ibex
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not a dance of deather

minor gust
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yeah Slayer was dead to me in keys when I first played colossus last patch

shadow ibex
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after demo on shield in stonevault

dark flower
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Guys, sorry if you've already answered this before. But is it just me, or is the Slayer's AOE really bad compared to Season 1?

mighty bridge
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how much does 4 set affect dps of arms anyone know?

nova marsh
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Hey blizz, got a question for ya

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HOW ARE LEVEL 70S APPLYING TO MY KEY

south minnow
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Does maintaining rend with thunderclap in aoe scenarios become low priority once you reach a high enough number of targets?
In the maxroll guide maintaining rend is at the top of the aoe priority list, but I see Critcake rarely use thunderclap in his upload from today

lunar remnant
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I just throw in a TC every now and then usually when I only got slam to press

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on bigger packs

quaint otter
unique bridge
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Are we using demolish only at 10 stacks? or just on CD?

nova marsh
lean geode
warped spade
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Anyone else randomly grabbing aggro mid pull on arms?

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It's very infrequent but it's happened enough this week to make me wonder..

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It's not an early pull zug zug just mid boss/pack. happened with a raid boss too just got one shot by tank mechanic. log shows no taunt, no aggro loss tanks still with threat

ebon storm
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is slayer arms still the way to go for raid?

fresh spire
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Ye

ebon storm
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jugg way to go or we flipping to battlelord

manic pasture
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is one armed bandit M+ spec or str

dense vector
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Does heroic have more adds?

void bay
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Heroic what?

dense vector
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Bandit

light dirge
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yo friends, whats the warriors playin this season? fury / arms ?

dense vector
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They’re pretty close play what you want

light dirge
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oh thats great!

dense vector
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Arms better execute but fury better at blowing up adds

light dirge
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right haha sounds familiar

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thanks for that info šŸ™‚

obsidian wave
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gamers what do we do during execute phase now?

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exe, exe, ms?

fringe moon
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Wish they didn’t nerf our execute.

warm bronze
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I'm still not fully understanding my mortal strike / overpower prio. Am I ALWAYS doing MS after 2 stacks of overpower? Am I spamming slam to get a chance for an OP reset to get 2 stacks of MS? Or, like all the other guides say "use MS on cooldown". But they don't specify.

Lastly, during execute phase, am I spamming execute twice, overpower twice, and then MS?

lean geode
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As slayer or colossus

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As slayer, the general priority of MS/OP/slam is:

  • OP with the opportunist buff
  • MS
  • OP without the opportunist buff
  • Slam

You're not really fishing for OP resets, you just press slam when you have nothing else to press, and if that gives you an OP charge and MS is still on cd, you use OP

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I guess technically that slam giving you a tactician proc would also necessarily give you opportunist, which would mean you would OP over MS regardless

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And then on top of that you add maintaining rend, using roar/CS on cd, using exe to maximize uptime of juggernaut/MFE

lean geode
# warm bronze I'm still not fully understanding my mortal strike / overpower prio. Am I ALWAYS...

Lastly, during execute phase, am I spamming execute twice, overpower twice, and then MS?
Generally no. For the most part you'll do something like
MS > exe > exe > OP > MS
But the middle 3 globals between those MS can change slightly. Depending on opportunist procs and your current amount of rage, you might do
MS > exe > exe > exe > MS
MS > OP > exe > exe > MS
MS > exe > OP > exe > MS
etc.

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There are rare cases where you'd delay your MS one more global, e.g.
MS > exe > OP > exe > OP > MS
again depending on opportunist procs and rage values, but you'll more often do
MS > x > x > y > MS

warm bronze
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Really appreciate the response. Thanks.

high spindle
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is there any secondary stat breakpoints to aim for?

umbral wing
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fix that

lean geode
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And that's both above and below 20%

lean geode
shadow ibex
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luckiest alt

lean geode
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f u

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I'm still using SV neck

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down bad

manic pasture
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what enchant do I put on Best in Slots? Radient or Dephs

lean geode
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Depths

manic pasture
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Okie

void bay
# lean geode Depths

everytime i got a wep, i sim, and it always says radiant is better in ST and MT

lean geode
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Then use radiant okayge

void bay
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im at like 51% mastery

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i do

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i just dont get why depths is better

lean geode
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51% mast as arms is diabolical

void bay
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oh i meant as fury

obsidian wave
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@lean geode do we clap on CD?

void bay
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i clicked one up

lean geode
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As arms at least

obsidian wave
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Oh. So slam prio's all filler when OP and MS aren't up?

lean geode
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Single target or aoe, slayer or colossus?

obsidian wave
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Colo AOE, but also curious for ST

lean geode
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Col aoe (only including main rotational abilities):

  • Cleave
  • 10stack demolish
  • MS
  • OP
  • TC
  • exe

Col ST depends on the build you're playing but with the build I prefer (again only main rotational abilities):

  • MS
  • demolish (regardless of stacks, only inside CS during execute range)
  • OP
  • exe
  • slam
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That's with this build
CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGmZGzYGzMbz2yyYGAAAAGMNMmlxMMWGzMjNzMjZGMMAAAAAAAMjZbwAsFDYzMGWgBmRb0AWA

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I'm thinking about throwing a point in bloodsurge instead of bloodborne idk

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You can also move the point in rumbling earth into second wind

shadow ibex
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luckiest alt ever

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lil bro thinks hes sonic

obsidian wave
lean geode
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Yeah

shadow ibex
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EP is the poop

obsidian wave
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I thought for Tyrannical it might work. Hm.

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This is your M+ build I assume?

shadow ibex
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even in ST you dont press exe much

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MS and OP resets

shadow ibex
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so the occasional 1 that u do its not really worth a talent to boost ms really

lean geode
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Taking 2xbb over EP doesn't really lose you any single target, gains you multi target, and makes things easier to play

shadow ibex
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its an ST gain for sure but just feels lame

lean geode
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and doesn't feel so shit when you rage starve in exe

obsidian wave
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I actually got my build from WoWhead, so didn't know people changed

lean geode
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This is a recent cook

obsidian wave
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Ok awesome will make the swap now

lean geode
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Hot off the presses

shadow ibex
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i run FB to have p much infinite rage in exe but isnt really anything to spend it on

lean geode
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The wowhead build is also fine

shadow ibex
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i think ill try bloodsurge instead for rage in packs

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since not really sniping lowhealth mobs with OP for rage

lean geode
shadow ibex
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its possible with resets for sure

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2 target EB resets

lean geode
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I've only run one key with that but felt deece

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Bro I swear I got 7 EB procs in a row yesterday

shadow ibex
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i had a 30 sec pull where i got 15 MS casts

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lmao

lean geode
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Nut city

shadow ibex
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i had 7 cleave resets

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i was counting outloud past 4

lean geode
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Need an EB counter weakaura like the outlaw ace in the hole counter

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My record with that was 7

shadow ibex
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i play blademaster its so fun

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just mashing buttons

obsidian wave
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So 1 bloodborne/1 fb, or 2 bloodborne?

lean geode
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All are fine

shadow ibex
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that point can do whatever. FB is really overkill rage in exe

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it means you'll never run out

lean geode
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Personally I wouldn't play 1xfinB

shadow ibex
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2 bb probably absolute best

lean geode
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Yeah 2xbb probably numerically best, the others are more feelsgood type shit

shadow ibex
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i forgot 4pc boosts cleave

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cant wait

lean geode
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Praying hard for this vault

obsidian wave
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bro this build fucking slaps

lean geode
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@thick kelp has been known to cook

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It's also super simple to play which increases your dps in practical terms bc you don't have to think much about your rotation and can instead think about positioning, mechanics, etc

shadow ibex
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blademaster for ultimate brain off

lean geode
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Doesn't blademaster require you to SS before popping ava

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Because it extends instead of giving the duration

shadow ibex
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yea

lean geode
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Doesn't sound very brain off to me

shadow ibex
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its the cleave every other global

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ucan get some insane collateral and 2 target with the sweep tho

teal fossil
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Didn’t they giga buff our rotational but not bleeds during ptr

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I thought bloodborne was dead for sure

lean geode
# teal fossil Wait no fking way

BL Colossus down horrendous during execute, I guess it's just more worth it to actually have rage to cast your abilities than to hit a 2EP MS every 10s

teal fossil
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I mean bloodborne

lean geode
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Yeah

teal fossil
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I get why finishing blows

lean geode
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I meant that EP ends up being less worth than it seems because you don't have the rage for it

teal fossil
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Ic

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But this is only colossus right

lean geode
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(that's just my headcanon)

teal fossil
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Also is finishing blows alone not enough

lean geode
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Yeah just colossus M+ build

lean geode
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And I think you just don't have points for finB with EP

teal fossil
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Bb stays winning

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Lmao

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Can’t believe I became a bb doubter

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I was the first person to believe in bb

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Back in 10.0

lean geode
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I remember

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The EB->BB migration

teal fossil
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I fucking love passive damage

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Hate talents that spice up my rotation

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Give me 20 nodes of 2% aura buff

lean geode
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Insane take actually

teal fossil
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Give me 20 of these

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Pls blizzard

shadow ibex
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We kinda run out of dps increases to take tbh

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Our class tree has aura buffs p much

teal fossil
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Need more

shadow ibex
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Mid spec tree is just pick biggest number increaser split between aoe

wintry arch
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Anyone know if they’ve hotfixed the circes trick?

lean geode
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I did it a couple days ago

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Haven't heard of it being fixed since then

wintry arch
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My buddy just got a 639 from the blacksmith

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Ok ty

rose matrix
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Do you follow the same sudden death rules with Arms as you do fury in slayer?

minor gust
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11 floodgate

slow saddle
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Wow gj

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Sub slaps

vernal pilot
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Is being able to fit a Demolish in every Warbreaker window on packs in M+ a good sign it's being played properly? At least in terms of AoE?

dense vector
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Is demo up every like 30-40 seconds? I haven’t done enough keys to notice

cloud dawn
stoic siren
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iwish there was a way to lean into a bleed build

tacit crystal
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there is

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take every bleed node

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lol

slow saddle
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Do ppl rly

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use

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Finishing blows in M+ collosus

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when u dont take EP

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wouldnt it be better to use bloodsurge

dense vector
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I think critcake made a video mentioning that

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You lose like 0.6% on single target but gain like 1.4% on aoe by doing that

minor gust
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tbh I didnt put 2 and 2 together either with finishing blows until I watched Crits video. I dropped EP but didnt think about finishing blows not being needed

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just do doube BB with shaman and 1 BB + Bsurge without

atomic mountain
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is this normal?

it feels like i do more dmg in higher dungeons. i made like 1,6 allover in 2-4 now in 6-8 i do like 2,0 overall dmg wihout any high simming changes in my gear

minor gust
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theres a lot more to overall than dmg

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so much more

slow saddle
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100%

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i did what frozen

atomic mountain
dim basalt
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Some dungeons allow for higher overall dps

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But its worthless because in most dungeons you can do meaningless padding

atomic mountain
eager sigil
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yea you cant compare a top overall to a meadery

dim basalt
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Like you can do a few hundred mil damage in rookery with a few globals that dont mean anything

sharp wyvern
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First boss cleft is great for overall DMG keks

dim basalt
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How do I quickly get 240 undercoins

thick kelp
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Delves

dim basalt
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A bountiful only gives like 90

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I cba farming the others with like 30 per delve

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Well, time to farm floodgate instead ig

minor gust
# atomic mountain yes i know. i timed a 6 with only 2 dps and made more overall than in other dung...

your overall is gonna come from what dungeon it is, what key level it is. How does the tank pull, how good are the other two dps. was there any deaths. End of dungeon overall just isnt really a great way to tell how well you did. M+ just focus on surviving and doing the mechanics. If your dmg is keeping up with other competent players and you regulary out perform randos in pugs then you probably in a good spot dmg wise.

atomic mountain
restive creek
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Does anyone know how relevant is the parse on mythic+ dungeons according to warcarftlog? Is it comparing all m+ keys? or just the same level

minor gust
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M+ parses are not relevant no

restive creek
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What even is calculated in that? The score?

thick kelp
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dps, key level, how many people have done that key, speed

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alot of things

vapid pine
slow saddle
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bb

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or bloodsurge for rage

vapid pine
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Feels so booooring, but sounds reasonable I guess Smadge

eager sigil
eager sigil
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oh

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shitass

astral yarrow
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@thick kelp are you an 8x t8 delves kinda guy

astral yarrow
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... fk

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guess im doing delves when i get home

thick kelp
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Its quick if u do the undermine delve

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or the kingpin guy

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i personally just ran the 4 keys I had for this week in bountifuls and then fullsend undermine zone delve 4x

boreal quartz
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We want the delve trinket right

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The stat proc

astral yarrow
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i just did 4 bountifuls and remembered how terrible delves are

thick kelp
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or energy drink

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or funhouse lens

astral yarrow
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i got the cauldron trinket at 665 last night and its barely better than 639 mark

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rocking energy drink tho

quasi torrent
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if u get ML big red u should take it from vault

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to play double BIG RED

astral yarrow
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I have BIG RED BUTTON on both hc and mythic AND BIG RED BUTTON from ML at 655 as well

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PUSH MY BUTTONS BRO

vapid pine
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So many fun-looking trinkets but it's all dogshit flat-damage on-use

astral yarrow
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wonder when they will learn šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

quasi torrent
austere hamlet
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Is mechano-core still good with the 5% nerfs?

half junco
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this is what i'm rocking , even if it outsims 639 transmitter i wonder is that combo this good

quasi torrent
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casters still get good trinkets ofc

astral yarrow
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warrior and rogue sinned during legion

half junco
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ditching Transmitter deswind

astral yarrow
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and then somehow rogue continued to sin with some random % shadow damage amp from somewhere in SL

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i really wish we werent 34 specs that wanted eye of kezan

vapid pine
quasi torrent
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we just haven't had a real uncap trinket since bfa

quasi torrent
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but designers stoobid

vapid pine
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Designers fine, balance dogshit

quasi torrent
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read again

vapid pine
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Although prolly the same team

quasi torrent
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not Design, design_ers_

thick kelp
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troll to not give warrior house of cards

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ngl

astral yarrow
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scarizard fix plz

quasi torrent
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:))

astral yarrow
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neither does BIS or kezan in my splits

quasi torrent
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we got 2x hoc

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both on warriors

dull siren
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Yap yap yap

quasi torrent
astral yarrow
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im almost 10 ilvls behind my co warrior deadge

quasi torrent
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skill issue

astral yarrow
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ah, 8, but ya know

thick kelp
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anyone did the crest exploit yday?

thick kelp
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same for me

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I didnt wanna send fucking bracers (only myth track item i own gg)

thick kelp
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my main warrior split got normal CP and HC boots =)

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don't

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use that

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abbreviation

dim basalt
astral yarrow
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walhe is already on the list

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like actually do not, discord bans randomly for this kinda shit

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i got hc bracers and stix weapon

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0 tier

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šŸ™‚

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benchboy

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:D

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gang

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i got 0 tier too

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noobers i think

thick kelp
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all went to evokers and monks

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if i actually play stix tonight im giga surprised

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tier on evokers

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susge

thick kelp
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idk maystine cranking o stix

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well i guess evoker/warrior doesnt matter lol

vapid pine
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Maystine cranking on pull at least

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warr tier only matters on coin and mugzee

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))

vapid pine
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Fury looks solid on many fights tbh

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yeah just sucks that you need hella ilvl to go 0 tier

sacred zodiac
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lets go gambling

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i also really like that they made deathskips harder in the gold saucer

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So we get to play trash that can not drop boe