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I mean when you have both Revvez and Wallife 
We have to stop dps on boss and add in the other end of the room dies too fast 
<insert pilav meme>
Nah I meant playing RA Fury is cringe, I much prefer AM personally
trutru, i bet if riku still played liquid would run atleast 1 dps warrior
Why would we?
There's a couple small updates to the APL I have pushed locally but haven't opened a pull request to the main repo for yet. There's also a bug I'm aware of regarding how SD duration is tracked for arms, but that'll be a bear to fix and doesn't matter THAT much anyways
Oops that was supposed to @dim basalt
It was just something small I noticed when looking at the screenshot but I was wrong anyway
I havent tested wowa myself
I'll hopefully have 4pc next week.
excuse me what? If he got 2 tier tokens... he should just farm for hero pieces in m+ and then catalyse 2 pieces
You would think
Rude :[
Instead got 2 tier in raid to not equip during raiding until farming hero gear after raid is done ig
Completely wasted as we wipe to a boss while we lack dam

I got thrown in to tank heroic Mug'zee. Kind of a joke gimmick boss till 40%.
So of course we don't have the dps to kill.
Slots. Just wiping to lack of damage. Bomb adds living forever for example
Damn
Good thing we threw the only potential 4pc week 1 in the trash
I think Bandit is actually harder than Mug'zee.
Only the first adds are kinda bad no? The other ones are cc'able
We had 10 wipes on Bandit, most of them due to bombs or because someone picked up a coin and didnt use it lol
But its lowkey awful when the bombs re-target and the one in front of you wants to blow you up
kek
Only awful pulls until the kill
Bandit just has so much shit going on that healers and tanks start to panic.
Actually the vast majority start to panic.
I think what made it a lot easier for us was to not send the coins back to the boss to refresh the damage buff
The bombs that chase
Not sending the coins back is more of a damage gain because there will always be people getting hit lol
Also no idea why the stun is like 6s long
They don't stack anyways.
It's still training for mythic though.
Get use to em cause they're gonna be needed to hit the adds.
Training for mythic doesnt matter tho
I was like the 1st or 2nd arms warr to public log a kill and I was like 640 ilvl so I have a 100 ilvl parse and like a 40 todays parse š¤£š¤£
For mugzee
The rogue receiving tier to then not equip it was just too much tho
the last set of bombs cant be ccd
@rare kite rude
think about what causes re-targeting
on mythic u will just die
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Yea gotta kill them but we just didn't have the damage for it
<@&257983573498265600>
Fuk
they took my money though
Unlucky

worth
meow
Pic or didnāt happen
theater of pain is def a pain one of the dungeons i struggle with
i do but theater of pain is crazy lol
priory is the only one i dont really like
paladins need a nerf
i feel
3 paladin pull
press spell reflect noob
yeah its just rough
give them a nerf and give us a buff
Had 3 cinderbrew bricked keys in a row. Tanks pulled half of the room with the boss š¤£
brew is im having the problem bec our tank likes to pull the whole room im like dude only pull half and we get the other half.
what
yes we have just discussed this
idk if they fixed it
Yeah I don't think tanks realise what chewie does yet š
it is very much still a thing
ok ty spingus
roughly the same overall dam but u hit so much harder in execute
And that pull only works without chewie + uncapped aoe classes with lots of aoe stops
Took a BM hunter he did like 30m DPS must be nice
ye im pugging vexie rn heroic
just gonna go rav to fuck harder in burn phase
ok u dont play ravager arms against that
whenever ppl drive the bikes into boss
spear time cluegi
slay the monsters (stand in the oil to achieve this)

Boys. how come the weapon [Electro-Arm Bludgeoner] has lower max damage that all other weapons in this season?
actually, no they dont have
one is 0.1 dps higher
mace things
blizz at its finest
well not like 0.1 dps matters at all
kinda cursed
i need more crit and less haste, but sims doesnt really want me to lose too much haste... kinda cursed too
can you stop
what
greater ember
@quasi torrent sorry for personal ping but I read entire Slayer APL and I actually somehow understood it better than guides
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It just took a small while to understand what like debuff.<spell>.up means
Yel
Hey guys how good is the codex trinket from top ? It sims poorly(it's losing to Transmitter) but on wowhead it says bis from the dungeons
Yep
grim codex is ass but outside of seaforium the dungeon trinkets just kinda suck
this is your wake up call to understand that bis lists arent real lol
and that mechano amplifier
u are doing 8x 8+ delves every week to receive amplifier
if ur not im telling ur gm
simply acquire the trinket
DESPAIR
im actually logging in to do my 8th delve for the week (fun)
i need to farm coffer keys
how to farm them the fastest
im doing some wqs that drop them
atm
dont think so
cringus
i will not do delves
i will instead complain for the rest of the patch
that m+ trinkets are shit
I know but like how is this on dungeon bis list but not priory one
sat at this atm
viscera is unironically decent
But Arms has massive cdr on everything
Demolish,WB and Rav
You can kinda line it up
ye but imagine u have house of cards and u just macro it and forget
bis lists are garbage and p much only exist cause someone would ask for one if they werent there ye
Give me house of cards and I will roast the shit out of priory trinket xdd
go delve and you will get a trinket that will last you until you kill m gallywix
xd exactly
Well I got champion track mechano core
I don't know if I can get delve trinket from vault because there is myth gear from it
u ahve done 4
Have to just keep using transmitter ig till I get a raid trinket
lmao great why are you still looking at a useless bis list
farm a seaforium and grab a funhouse lens if you get one from delves/house of cards
hc amplifier is equal to mythic trinkets you would absolutely pick one if its one of your choices
Yeah but there is that concern of them nerfing the shit out of them xdd
spoingus do i need bountiful delves for vault and what level do they need to be for myth track
or hc track w/e
It's hero track, do 8 doesn't need to be bountiful for vault
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Visit the Trading Post in Stormwind or Dornogal to collect your rewards!
No
I love fairy transmog
Yeah gonna farm seaforium but radio trinket is simming better than funhouse on bloodmallet idk if that's wrong or not
Two passive trinkets but still
Well I did it says radio and seaforium
But there's chance that's because my haste is not really hot rn
Hopefully they don't go cringe mode and nerf the delve trinkets more
If they want to balance trinkets just buff dungeon ones a bit
How accurate are sims? Not a question if I should use it or not but just wondering the % as I've not read so much about it
bloodmallet uses a specific set. it is a website for checking what is generally good for you
let's goooo 1st heroic floodgate run
Guys quick question, someone that has both curved and 2000rio can confirm u get catalyst for each achievement
Took me 23⦠felt like dying
you dont
Damn
I have pvp and KSM and yeah it's only 1
Ffs
Simming your own character is basically the most accurate thing you can possibly do. That's not to say it has NO bugs, but people work hard to find and fix them
There's just no reason to use bloodmallet when you could actually sim your own character instead
Cheers mate
yupp, i basically only use it for general information of what trinkets are good for people
So I got Best in Slots on our HC kill and would like to know if there's any recommended usage scenario. Right now I'd rather use House of Cards during Avatar and macro BiS to Colossus Smash for the next use, but not sure if that's the way or if it's better to wait for a "normal" BiS procc and THEN use it to get double stats
Any idea?
I know mate on wowhead was written āeach individualā
And wanted to check
what m+ level does it drop hero track items?
6 and higher
wait.. heroic as in queable heroic?
did i miss something?
No sorry I meant the first one that drops heroic ilvl
Catalyst is still every two weeks right? One of my guildies had some disinformation saying it was every week now
ohhhhhhh u almost had me there :/ hahaa
Well next week should be a charge as well no? Cause usually we get a full spark every other week and in between we get a catalyst charge. We got both this week, but that's only because we got the other half of the spark from the quest. So next week should be a catalyst charge.
originally on the PTR, it was individual, suggesting up to 3 charges for the three different criteria
it then changed to just 1 from any of the three, similar to previous achievements
Sad but understandable
every 2 weeks, tells you that on the tooltip
Thank you sir
HI Guys hope you all are ok
quick question, anyone knows if delver maps, can drop from any bountiful or non buntiful delves?
any level?
Kk ty!
Hi everyone, what do you recommend for raid arms or fury? Ty
so in theory for a greater chance for hc bestinslots better not to kill last 2 bosses or loot table doesnt work like that anymore?
in vault I mean
My guild went first 6 hc and myth vex for that reason
Also the fact that we prob couldnāt do hc gally yet Kek
With more time surely
Guys, is there any aura for the tier set conditions?
Are you wanting to hear a alarm when youāre supposed to press OP or just track the stacks/duration?
Or both
the public apl doesnt play around tier at all afaik
How is arms performing
good
Anybody know how not running EP would affect execute phase for arms in M+ build? Iāve been messing around with 2 points in bloodbourne and was curious
youd just replace slam with execute and play like normal
Exe becomes mega last prio
it just replaces slam
exhil procs will eat ur rage
happened to a friend as well a few days ago but didnt for me idk
I run FB right now but would probably swap to bloodsurge for aoe rage
Fb is nice in ST tho
with shaman u should be able to drop both and go 2x bb
havent played with a shaman so idk
xdd
Me either
I love colossus in m+ but man execute feels wrong
I wish we had some other talents to take at the bottom and mid
Cleave X cleave X cleave X cleave X is getting tired
You can fit EP into a Colo m+ build.
I don't see the value in EP really. Spend two awful globals to boost MS or just hit some MS instead
And it's probably a wash. The dpr of 3 mortal strikes vs dpr of x2 exe and an ms
I wouldnāt spam it its more that your filler (execute) is now buffing your MS
I'm not gonna do the math fuck that but it feels accurate
its a bit of an st gain
It probably doesnāt move the needle much but my bleed dmg is low, I play SD and EP, if I was spamming 10+ Iād probably take BB
I guess comes down to how often the filler is used. Atm with bl and eb and deft you'd be buffing an MS pretty inconsistent
@boreal quartz @latent moss what do you guys think unhinged or hurricane? I feel like with the new tierset unhinged could be better lmk
Yeah itās not the best. But without EP execute feels way worse
Hey guys I was thinking of a couple ways to make Slayer more appealing to play in mythic+ so let me know what you think.
First off Sudden Death having a % chance (I was thinking 50 but may be high) of triggering Reap the Storm, also Sudden Death being usable during Bladestorm. Juggernaut should also have an increased duration to about 20 seconds as Slayer and then for survivability Overwhelmed can give 1% decreased AoE damage per stack.
slayer being able to execute during bladestorm would be sick.
I mean those two are the main things of Slayer so I thought why not
Replace dance of death with a capstone that consumes rage to boost BS damage
So it can actually fuckin do damage
I think the aoe is a lil unreliable since gotta get reap procs with cleave
Vs colossus 25% dmg boost and crit amp
0 rng just button
That is why I was thinking of having Sudden Death able to trigger Reap as well
Yeah thatās pretty much it. Demolish is a big aoe button too whereas bladestorm dmg itself is just low so the cdr isnāt that big
Idk why they afraid of letting it do damage
why 12% vers raidbot 
(i think its because of haste, and unfortunately only have haste/vers pieces)
you can just equip what you want ye
is tehre an easy way to get
Do 8 tier8 delves every week and pray when you open your vault
oh god
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If we look at tier set what preffer pieces would we like? i was thinking Shoulders/helm/chest/legs
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How do you guys track the execute conditions?
yolo
Ctrl+f "SD conditions"
I'm going Helm/Shoulders/Legs and either chest or hands as those both don't have crit. Gloves is Haste/Vers, chest is Haste/Mast, but Gloves have more haste than vers where as chest has more mastery, less haste.
yeah was thinking the same.
is it worth dropping bloodborne for improves sweeping strikes on heroic Bandit?
Yeah also pre cast SS at 10 seconds so you can cleave first couple adds on pull and then itās up again for first add spawn
Sd procs reap every time %100 garantuee would be cool
Would be wicked good with slayer Hollyy
is it good ?
I mean ideally i just want juggernaut to be replaced with the df 4p that did an aoe when u used sd
How are you using this trinket? Keep on one mode for raiding when theres no 100% cleave uptime?
how much of a dps gain is TC over Rend in single target?
Sorry meant rend over tc
Thanks, first time learning arms.
lord andussy are you playing 2 bb over ep in keys
fuck ep
was checking critcake talents in keys and saw a swap
š¢
dont forget to stormbolt when using bladestorm for maximum DPS
can you get Mechano-Core Amplifier from vault? or only drop from bounty
hi
you can get it from the world track
what does that mean exactly
Boy was delvin
was Arms nerfed recently? can't find anything in MMO-Champion and Revvez said it was on his stream
ye that's the only one I know about
Nothing more?
Revvez said he's playing Fury on Lockenstock cuz Arms got nerfed
Well the 15%
Can someone provide me some enlightenment on this. I searched quite a bit with no success on the why behind it. āMortal Strike with 2x Executioner's Precision, but not during Ravagerā
Why do we not follow that during ravager. I donāt do it because it says but want to know why.
Makes fury better than arms
Ravager casts ms
Because ravager sends ms with unhinged
And that counts to proc EP I am assuming
Ye
Got it so hunch right confirmed by better players lol. Ty
Its still insane that rav is closd to a thing on slayer
He is beginning to believe
During rav you just execute spam to get juiced MS casts yeah?
2 exe and then op or exe depends on rage ye
Ahh yeah Phil typed
we are not spamming execute as slayer and just ms for wounds and overpower for rage? X:
nop
what ur describing is from df
without s1 tier u just do ms on cd with 3 globals in between
so s1 tier changes stuff? Maybe ive not read the guide properly :X
Thought its still this
Even with s1 tier it's still MS on cd you can ignore LB
Sorry but what is lb?
I just spam exe with ravager ngl the reck from avatar and ravager ticks is infinite rage
season 1 tierset
Lethal blows the season 1 tier set
Oh welp ... thought s2 set ..
Ty for poiting out
And with s2 execute phase is about getting the streak buff and OP / MS over execute then?
Or also get 2x charged ms?
With Precision
Yeah it's still part of the priority on the off chance someone plays with it, but it's a not part of the main builds atm
tyvm!
hey guys, does anyone have a weakaura to check how many ombs your in range with ?
kind alike this
Die SKS Die
Damn right
pretty sure you cant do this anymore
World of Warcraft: The War Within
Watch live at https://www.twitch.tv/deswindtv
this guy is using it
are we assuming that the Raid 2H weapon will cost 2 traders coins?
@sage badge what target in range WA are u using
I hope not, want that trinket too
Deswind is incredibly based he can't be compared to us
Must be 1 no?
1 token per item
If not im 100% taking both trinkets instead
https://wago.io/rZ0_FimqE
Here you go.
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
thanks cutie

are we sending two handed craft next week if we dont get heroic best-in-slots?
Won't be able to craft a 2h till the third week of raid
hi all! if anyone could help me with the basics of using execute? i know i need the three stacks but should i always keep juggernaut up regardless of my stacks? any help would be great š
Wdym?
Short answer yes
Juggernaut should be kept up as much as possible
But dont send sd procs before u have 2
To keep up juggernaut
what if i donāt have 2 sd procs?
cool thank you š i donāt know why im having such trouble with it lol
M8
U cant keep stacks up pre exe
Unless are lucky as fuck!
Once in a million years
@boreal quartz post the image
ahhhh i see so youāre just keeping jug up till execute phase?
sweet stuff ty sir
Do we just send our on use trinket when we can after BiS?
How many adds do people sim m+ for again?
5 usually
5 adds 1min 30 maybe?
Is there an execute WA that can play a sound when one of the conditionals is met, for arms?
yes
Mind sharing a link if you have one handy?
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
With ctrl + f you can use the search

I wasn't sure which keyword to use. I tried a few; didn't think to use slayer SD (was trying execute wa or exe wa, etc.).
tru tru
Whats up, Guys. My Name is Juan and im having several problems playing with warrior arms.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en_us/character/us/illidan/Sadyo my profile if u guys want see what i have.
I have a total ILVL of 464, but I keep losing DPS to people with ilvls much lower than mine (absurd amounts of damage). Recently I thought that the lack of tierset could be the reason for my low damage, because when I was with the 4 pieces of the tier set, I gave good damage, but as the weeks went by, I got the 3 pieces of the tier set and my damage dropped in an unimaginable way and I have no idea what to do to return to the top of DPS.
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Guys do you think its value to kill the 4p for 2p 2p ?
sim it
thanks
should I craft my weapon 675 ? or going for my 2 embelishs
we have a section on this here:
#1237307555961634826 message
i'd recommend waiting until after vault to see if you get a myth track weapon / tier options and go from there
thanks
This is me compared to a rank 1 arms warrior. im right he is left. his kill time is 1 minut less and for some reason he casted 10 more mortal strikes then me. and i feel like im already spamming it.
1 minut less kill time and having 10 more MS is kinda insane ngl
Got a good amount of MS resets
yeah prob.
hey returning to the game, what profssions should i aim for
whichever ones you like š
has no bearing on gameplay
at least get cooking though, so you can make food that persists through death
not even engineering?
Is overpowered supposed to be that low
when I look at sims overpowered is like crazy much higher
sims lump Dreadnaught into OP together as one spell
ah
(if taken)
alchemy is nice for saving money
if not?
ty
looks like you just had a nice extended execute phase
yea but overpowered is supposed to be higher no?
how long is the fight vs the sim
both single target?
can also toss it in #1347646810457636974 for more detailed answers
yea will do it when I Get logs
sim breakdowns don't line up to details breakdowns
ie: sim puts the Unhinged-generated MS casts under Bladestorm for example
yea getting logs give me a sec
That is true
Hence why waiting 4 logs 

Any1 watching race 2 world first?
race to world third?
how do i check what rank am i on realm for my spec?
(shoutout to the QA squads)
Raider.io for your toon -> Spec
ty
Real and true
They need to hire me as a dev for blizzard
Just so I can leave and tell you how shit it is
then you'd have to live in Anaheim 
sent logs
Sec
is arms currently better than fury in raid and mythic plus?
i've had more fun with fury slayer in raid, and arms collosus in m+
play and se whatcha like
in M+ i prefer arms tbh but in raid i find the rotation weird as slayer :/ but im just wondering talking about raw damage if is worth the extra effort
So im ngl I died on my sprocketmonger heroic
But just taking a snapshot - We seem to have pretty similar?
I cast rend a bit more and have 98% uptime, while yours is 83%
Yea forgot to cast it few times
forget to look at it
Both are strong in both raid and M+ for different reasons, play what you like
Arms in M+ probably better aoe and overall, but fury is better prio/boss dam.
Arms in raid better execute and 2t cleave, and less impacted by target swapping, but fury is (very) slightly better pure single target and add cleave
Buffs
hc bestinslots 60k dps behind 678 m+ weapon should be accurate?
hi roy i loved u in bladerunner, im sad u died
great speech
yes idd
I hope so yeah. Just thinking about how they did it in DF and SL, it was two for a 2H weapon
obviosuly that was different because we had so many, but yeah im hoping it works 1 each
@magic canopy What was that Fatality build you were talking about?
we keeping up with pi'd ele shams now? holy?
log was 99 sham and 98 me, I can beat them if I improve XD
we have hope
single tar build - tactition + fatality
Yes and
I have 0 new tier so i fell weird about that
I lost like 60k dps if I did that 
S1 sets were giga garbage ass for a bunch of specs
i gain 8k dropping old set
Like ww or fire mage
Dont recall arms
But i just switched items when got hero track ones
new warrior player here , might be a stupid question but whats the priority when it comes to pressing overpower in m+ ? do i just press it when i cant press cleave/mortal strike ?
do i Need to press overpower before using mortal strike ?
DN is so bad its sad
on aoe cleave>ms>op
but bro... im cooking biggest CD cleave EU i need 2x MP
and to actually make use of it u prio it over ms during ss which destroys cdr
So if i get mortal strike proc and cleave up , do i prio cleave or MS ?
so its a damage loss to play it in some cases
yes
if u jjst want damage
Ms>op??
tried arms on one armed bandit for a few pulls. god this spec is ass, remove slayer.
Cleave>MS>OP is the prio then ?
in aoe yes
for ST , MS - OP - Slam ?
u die
yep
critting with x2 sweeping MS and reducing CD by 8 seconds 
sry it didnt crit
play slayer rav
do NOT play slayer BS
rav slayer is so much better
slayer rav is inf better to play
it loses me like 8k on sim rn
but im willing to take that 1000%
remove bs from arms
arms when it can press buttons 
i have 10% haste
wonder how they kill it
by removing bs
aware
bs sucks so much its not even funny anymore
tried it in a key
i swear
2 colossus cleaves do more damage
1 with mbg up probably
BS needs to be buffed by an absurd amount and needs to last as long as furys bladestorm to feel good
if it fucked it can last long
i think consuming rage would make not pressing buttons feel bad
only real take

buffing it that much is impossible tho
common w
our globals are insane
yea thats true i got nothin
i unfortunately did a cinderbrew as slayer
just make colossus ST spec
despair to play
so we can enjoy
surely they must do something tho
short term probably just force us to talent BS like SD but maybe .5
or on ward even...
i just walked into a key
put key in
see im slayer fury cleave
go out
press n
talent spec goes to "colossusy"
walk into key
my col spec has been replaced by a slayer rav spec
walk out again to fix it
don't fix it fully
play half the key without cd or fob
play full key without wb
so i lose to b*nezi
cba

is it just pray for reaper procs
its funny that all the BS CDR may as well not exist for how powerful the spec is

nah i was col again
I played half a pull as slayer
im not playing slayer arm in a key fuck off
not a dance of deather
yeah Slayer was dead to me in keys when I first played colossus last patch
Guys, sorry if you've already answered this before. But is it just me, or is the Slayer's AOE really bad compared to Season 1?
how much does 4 set affect dps of arms anyone know?
Does maintaining rend with thunderclap in aoe scenarios become low priority once you reach a high enough number of targets?
In the maxroll guide maintaining rend is at the top of the aoe priority list, but I see Critcake rarely use thunderclap in his upload from today
I just throw in a TC every now and then usually when I only got slam to press
on bigger packs
You might set it as a dungeon not a keystone
Are we using demolish only at 10 stacks? or just on CD?
nope. was set to a keystone
In aoe, 10 stacks. In ST, on cd (except only during CS in execute range)
Anyone else randomly grabbing aggro mid pull on arms?
It's very infrequent but it's happened enough this week to make me wonder..
It's not an early pull zug zug just mid boss/pack. happened with a raid boss too just got one shot by tank mechanic. log shows no taunt, no aggro loss tanks still with threat
is slayer arms still the way to go for raid?
Ye
jugg way to go or we flipping to battlelord
is one armed bandit M+ spec or str
Does heroic have more adds?
Heroic what?
Bandit
yo friends, whats the warriors playin this season? fury / arms ?
Theyāre pretty close play what you want
oh thats great!
Arms better execute but fury better at blowing up adds
Wish they didnāt nerf our execute.
I'm still not fully understanding my mortal strike / overpower prio. Am I ALWAYS doing MS after 2 stacks of overpower? Am I spamming slam to get a chance for an OP reset to get 2 stacks of MS? Or, like all the other guides say "use MS on cooldown". But they don't specify.
Lastly, during execute phase, am I spamming execute twice, overpower twice, and then MS?
As slayer or colossus
As slayer, the general priority of MS/OP/slam is:
- OP with the opportunist buff
- MS
- OP without the opportunist buff
- Slam
You're not really fishing for OP resets, you just press slam when you have nothing else to press, and if that gives you an OP charge and MS is still on cd, you use OP
I guess technically that slam giving you a tactician proc would also necessarily give you opportunist, which would mean you would OP over MS regardless
And then on top of that you add maintaining rend, using roar/CS on cd, using exe to maximize uptime of juggernaut/MFE
Lastly, during execute phase, am I spamming execute twice, overpower twice, and then MS?
Generally no. For the most part you'll do something like
MS > exe > exe > OP > MS
But the middle 3 globals between those MS can change slightly. Depending on opportunist procs and your current amount of rage, you might do
MS > exe > exe > exe > MS
MS > OP > exe > exe > MS
MS > exe > OP > exe > MS
etc.
There are rare cases where you'd delay your MS one more global, e.g.
MS > exe > OP > exe > OP > MS
again depending on opportunist procs and rage values, but you'll more often do
MS > x > x > y > MS
Really appreciate the response. Thanks.
is there any secondary stat breakpoints to aim for?
fix that
Note that as colossus in M+ spec (especially if you play the no-EP build) the priority is pretty strictly just MS > OP > exe > slam
And that's both above and below 20%
Nope, just whatever the sim tells you to equip 
luckiest alt
what enchant do I put on Best in Slots? Radient or Dephs
Depths
Okie
everytime i got a wep, i sim, and it always says radiant is better in ST and MT
Then use radiant 
51% mast as arms is diabolical
oh i meant as fury
@lean geode do we clap on CD?
i clicked one up
No, you only clap to apply or refresh rend
As arms at least
Oh. So slam prio's all filler when OP and MS aren't up?
Single target or aoe, slayer or colossus?
Colo AOE, but also curious for ST
Col aoe (only including main rotational abilities):
- Cleave
- 10stack demolish
- MS
- OP
- TC
- exe
Col ST depends on the build you're playing but with the build I prefer (again only main rotational abilities):
- MS
- demolish (regardless of stacks, only inside CS during execute range)
- OP
- exe
- slam
That's with this build
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I'm thinking about throwing a point in bloodsurge instead of bloodborne idk
You can also move the point in rumbling earth into second wind
You take 2x Bloodborne instead of Execute Precision?
Yeah
EP is the poop
so the occasional 1 that u do its not really worth a talent to boost ms really
Taking 2xbb over EP doesn't really lose you any single target, gains you multi target, and makes things easier to play
its an ST gain for sure but just feels lame
and doesn't feel so shit when you rage starve in exe
I actually got my build from WoWhead, so didn't know people changed
This is a recent cook
Ok awesome will make the swap now
Hot off the presses
i run FB to have p much infinite rage in exe but isnt really anything to spend it on
The wowhead build is also fine
i think ill try bloodsurge instead for rage in packs
since not really sniping lowhealth mobs with OP for rage
I moved 1 in bb into bloodsurge because I was feeling starved from time to time (mostly a skill issue being out of melee range)
I've only run one key with that but felt deece
Bro I swear I got 7 EB procs in a row yesterday
Nut city
Need an EB counter weakaura like the outlaw ace in the hole counter
My record with that was 7
So 1 bloodborne/1 fb, or 2 bloodborne?
any of the above, or 1xbb 1xbloodsurge
All are fine
that point can do whatever. FB is really overkill rage in exe
it means you'll never run out
Personally I wouldn't play 1xfinB
2 bb probably absolute best
Yeah 2xbb probably numerically best, the others are more feelsgood type shit
Praying hard for this vault
bro this build fucking slaps

@thick kelp has been known to cook
It's also super simple to play which increases your dps in practical terms bc you don't have to think much about your rotation and can instead think about positioning, mechanics, etc
blademaster for ultimate brain off
Doesn't blademaster require you to SS before popping ava
Because it extends instead of giving the duration
yea
Doesn't sound very brain off to me
its the cleave every other global
ucan get some insane collateral and 2 target with the sweep tho
Wait no fking way
Didnāt they giga buff our rotational but not bleeds during ptr
I thought bloodborne was dead for sure
BL Colossus down horrendous during execute, I guess it's just more worth it to actually have rage to cast your abilities than to hit a 2EP MS every 10s
I mean bloodborne
Yeah
I get why finishing blows
I meant that EP ends up being less worth than it seems because you don't have the rage for it
(that's just my headcanon)
Also is finishing blows alone not enough
Yeah just colossus M+ build
1xbb sims higher than 1xfinB according to Walhe but I haven't checked myself
And I think you just don't have points for finB with EP
Bb stays winning
Lmao
Canāt believe I became a bb doubter
I was the first person to believe in bb
Back in 10.0
I fucking love passive damage
Hate talents that spice up my rotation
Give me 20 nodes of 2% aura buff
Insane take actually
Need more
Mid spec tree is just pick biggest number increaser split between aoe
Anyone know if theyāve hotfixed the circes trick?
Do you follow the same sudden death rules with Arms as you do fury in slayer?
Is being able to fit a Demolish in every Warbreaker window on packs in M+ a good sign it's being played properly? At least in terms of AoE?
Is demo up every like 30-40 seconds? I havenāt done enough keys to notice
It feels kinda hard to get it out of sync tbh if you intentionally line them up in your rotation
iwish there was a way to lean into a bleed build
Do ppl rly
use
Finishing blows in M+ collosus
when u dont take EP
wouldnt it be better to use bloodsurge
I think critcake made a video mentioning that
You lose like 0.6% on single target but gain like 1.4% on aoe by doing that
tbh I didnt put 2 and 2 together either with finishing blows until I watched Crits video. I dropped EP but didnt think about finishing blows not being needed
just do doube BB with shaman and 1 BB + Bsurge without
is this normal?
it feels like i do more dmg in higher dungeons. i made like 1,6 allover in 2-4 now in 6-8 i do like 2,0 overall dmg wihout any high simming changes in my gear
yes i know. i timed a 6 with only 2 dps and made more overall than in other dungeons. ist just to get a feeling why i do more dmg XD
Some dungeons allow for higher overall dps
But its worthless because in most dungeons you can do meaningless padding
i compared the same dungeon
yea you cant compare a top overall to a meadery
Like you can do a few hundred mil damage in rookery with a few globals that dont mean anything
First boss cleft is great for overall DMG 
How do I quickly get 240 undercoins
Delves
A bountiful only gives like 90
I cba farming the others with like 30 per delve
Well, time to farm floodgate instead ig
your overall is gonna come from what dungeon it is, what key level it is. How does the tank pull, how good are the other two dps. was there any deaths. End of dungeon overall just isnt really a great way to tell how well you did. M+ just focus on surviving and doing the mechanics. If your dmg is keeping up with other competent players and you regulary out perform randos in pugs then you probably in a good spot dmg wise.
okay thats what i wanted to hear thx š
Does anyone know how relevant is the parse on mythic+ dungeons according to warcarftlog? Is it comparing all m+ keys? or just the same level
M+ parses are not relevant no
What even is calculated in that? The score?
What do you play instead of Executioner's Precision?
Feels so booooring, but sounds reasonable I guess Smadge
if you want the map you can buy the item on the auction house to spawn the underpin guy
cant anymore
@thick kelp are you an 8x t8 delves kinda guy
Its quick if u do the undermine delve
or the kingpin guy
i personally just ran the 4 keys I had for this week in bountifuls and then fullsend undermine zone delve 4x
i just did 4 bountifuls and remembered how terrible delves are
i got the cauldron trinket at 665 last night and its barely better than 639 mark
rocking energy drink tho
BIG RED BUTTON
if u get ML big red u should take it from vault
to play double BIG RED
I have BIG RED BUTTON on both hc and mythic AND BIG RED BUTTON from ML at 655 as well
PUSH MY BUTTONS BRO
So many fun-looking trinkets but it's all dogshit flat-damage on-use
wonder when they will learn š¤·āāļø
legion killed melee having good trinkets
Is mechano-core still good with the 5% nerfs?
this is what i'm rocking , even if it outsims 639 transmitter i wonder is that combo this good
casters still get good trinkets ofc
warrior and rogue sinned during legion
yes
passive good
ditching Transmitter 
and then somehow rogue continued to sin with some random % shadow damage amp from somewhere in SL
i really wish we werent 34 specs that wanted eye of kezan
I'm unbelievably tilted that House of Cards is so broken that it's BiS for 2min specs too for no reason
we just haven't had a real uncap trinket since bfa
priory should be better for them
but designers stoobid

Designers fine, balance dogshit
read again
Although prolly the same team
not Design, design_ers_
scarizard fix plz
jokes on you, house of cards doesnt exist
neither does BIS or kezan in my splits
Yap yap yap
silence swede
im almost 10 ilvls behind my co warrior 
skill issue
ah, 8, but ya know
real
anyone did the crest exploit yday?
same for me
I didnt wanna send fucking bracers (only myth track item i own gg)
my main warrior split got normal CP and HC boots =)

walhe is already on the list
like actually do not, discord bans randomly for this kinda shit
benchboy
noobers i think
all went to evokers and monks
idk maystine cranking o stix
well i guess evoker/warrior doesnt matter lol
Maystine cranking on pull at least
Fury looks solid on many fights tbh
yeah just sucks that you need hella ilvl to go 0 tier
gambling weakaura immediately

