arms

[quasi torrent]

100%

[magic canopy]

already sittin on it

[daring heron]

you think those 2 better than cyrce's?

[quasi torrent]

maybe not on fury

[daring heron]

i didnt bother simming 2x non cyrce yet

ah ok

[quasi torrent]

but on arms sim told me to drop cyrce

with 658 rings

[thick kelp]

sus

swap gems

[quasi torrent]

simmed same as haste gems 🤷‍♂️

reverb radio diff maybe

15k crittus, 12.5k haste, 9.5k mast moment

(1k vers i hate vers)

[hexed snow]

Use cyrces circlet to get free upgrade to 658

[magic canopy]

heres the real question @thick kelp what do we drop to get fatality for slayer ST

is ashen so bad it might be dead?

[hexed snow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy1QoGzdrAI&ab_channel=Freshtanking

[thick kelp]

if anything you drop 1 deft

[magic canopy]

i forgot about the pathing from the vers node so you dont need 2 deft

im dumb

[thick kelp]

I have been playing it on mug hc

and bandit hc

[magic canopy]

i feel like it def has potential

[latent moss]

ARMS LOOTSPEC

[magic canopy]

play prot do more dam then fury

[daring heron]

play prot outdps most dps tbh

[halcyon breach]

critcheat

[daring heron]

wdym i looted a 655 1h before i got a 655 2h

[halcyon breach]

It still goes man

[covert drift]

danm we're back to mop days?

[halcyon breach]

My peak is 3.5 mill so far as Arms

I just cannot go further rn

I'm just gonna write it up to being skill issue and stat cope (20% crit pov)

[daring heron]

hmmm i got a good one yday, 3.9 i think

im at 23% with my best arms set lmao

lil bit of cinderbrewing

[halcyon breach]

Couldn't be me

[last inlet]

i was in a M0 priory, and the same thing happened to me, was like "wtf are prot warriors doing?" dude was pumping on aoe.

felt like i was weak AF

[daring heron]

with a monk debuff it'd be 4m

qrva tbf beat me on most dungeons by a bit

but he has hc bis weapon and im using 652 weapon

but he also doesnt have 4p yet so idk how much he gains from that, he was same ilvl as me anyway

[halcyon breach]

I could prob do upwards of that damage if I learnt how to play Colossus better

But I'm too lazy to game certain things and just mostly hammer buttons on CD or when they glow

I got a 658 weapon and 665 house of cards, and 4p on top of that

So my gear is far from bad

But I definitely notice the lack of crits sometimes when my Demolish CDR just doesn't exist

[manic bear]

Is arms or fury good now?

[boreal quartz]

Yes

[halcyon breach]

Yes

[fresh spire]

Yes

[manic bear]

?

[halcyon breach]

Both specs are good

[manic bear]

oh

ok

which enchantment weapon for weapon nw?

[halcyon breach]

Radiant power if you only do m+, otherwise depths if you care about raid too

[manic bear]

oic

if I am doing both

I only can choose 1?

[slow saddle]

just take depths

u want Single target dmg in M+ as well

But ye Ret is also slappin

[frank frost]

it was between ret and war for me this season

but i'm more of a zug zug type player so i chose war

Blessings are too much to think about

[manic bear]

I have ret and war

hmm

[knotty orchid]

cringe boss

[manic bear]

ret was my main last season

[knotty orchid]

I am never doing underpin ?? again

[frank frost]

alright blow up then

congrats on the kill though

[knotty orchid]

this boss is sooooo bugged

I didnt get my mount

[lunar remnant]

I’m floating around 1.8-2m overall in m+ at ilvl 638.. but I feel like I don’t open with cleave enough for extra damage

[knotty orchid]

there is no loot

[boreal quartz]

It's also about the key and the other people

Hard to judge idk

[knotty orchid]

ticket time

[lunar remnant]

True been pugging pretty much

[boreal quartz]

"we are aware of this bug and are trying to fix it"

[storm crypt]

sim saying not to use circlet anymore, is this right? or am i shooting myself in the foot not using it

[magic canopy]

what gems are you simming with

did you swap to windsinger or are you still using legendary

[alpine dew]

Should we switch from legendary to windsinger?

[storm crypt]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qY2cYj9kd4BYQ9XPnnown2

[eager sigil]

yea it fucked rn

[magic canopy]

yeah you are still using the legendary gem which is worse

use windsinger instead

it will sim higher

[storm crypt]

i have windsinger selected in the choices

ill resim with just wind

[magic canopy]

did you have the thing selected to replace existing gems

becuase otherwise we would see alot more lines in the sim

[storm crypt]

yeah i just changed it and its telling me to use it again, must not have the existing gems selected

[magic canopy]

yuh

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chuni-sleep-gif-20108376

[storm crypt]

cheers

[quasi torrent]

@halcyon breach haiiiiii :3333333

[quasi torrent]

nyo :3

[swift crown]

:3

Meownda

[zenith warren]

can someone show details dmg done overall for ML 10?

[halcyon breach]

henlo :3

[spark wadi]

Hey guys, any info on when and what we are crafting? 🙂

[slow saddle]

Depends

Id say wait week 3 tbh if u arent hardcore raider

U might wanna just send mythic weap and be done with it

[icy mulch]

When do we get a second spark?

[eager sigil]

In 2 weeks

[icy mulch]

Oof

[latent moss]

thoughts

[sacred zodiac]

jesus

[latent moss]

old ahh screenshot

df s4 i thino

think

[lean geode]

It should be decently accurate for single target raid fights, m+ I haven't spent any time looking at so absolutely no idea but it's probably scuffed

[neon socket]

sweet thanks!

[burnt lake]

Looks like you’re playing warrior

[boreal quartz]

the goat

[eager sigil]

Loboz unleashed

[quasi torrent]

loboz spec

[fickle oar]

are we waiting for 10 stacks of demolish or just using it on cooldown?

[quasi torrent]

jus send buddy

outside of first one u press u should never have less than 10 rly anyway

[olive nest]

you can try to get 10 stacks before sending it but make sure you send it with atleast 3-4 seconds of CS duration left

and yeah like anda said this is really only the first one unless you have deaths

[latent moss]

if i dont have 10 stacks

i spam ms and hope for exhil blows

chatting

i wont press op hoping for blord

cause SS + 2 MS crits

is already 4 stacks

• rava ticking

• exil

and u can time last demolish hit with unhinged

i think u can at least

[warped idol]

Roar is before or after colossus/warbreaker?

[latent moss]

before

dont waste a global

[warped idol]

i just want to fit as much cleaves/ms as possible right?

so same thing for ravager

[warped ether]

I feel like slayer jugg build feels way smoother then colossus

If you khow the dungeon pathing

And can cd manage good

Wish ravager was a thing for the tree tough ngl

[latent moss]

yep

[sharp rivet]

admission: i'm trying to ween myself off of hekili - but sometimes i ask myself why

[fresh spire]

[frank frost]

the argument against hekili is to just smash a target dummy for a couple hours a day

or, do like me and go in blind and learn whilst doing M+ and raid

[wary raft]

based approach and the only real approach

every time I play an alt I brick all my friends keys staring at my action bars for every key and perma dead to shit on the floor

[frank frost]

i read WoWhead rotation page once or twice and leave the rest up to skill

haven't played warrior in a good 1.5 year

but i'm already doing 3m overall with 638 ilvl so i'm happy enough

granted the 3m overall was in cinderbrew 😛

[astral zephyr]

Hi boys

[wary raft]

big dam

unfort ive yet to play a real key level bc busy all week

[astral zephyr]

Does anyone here have a WA package for me that tracks LB, OP and exe stacks :D?

[quasi torrent]

LB stacks

buddy is half a year late

[astral zephyr]

I mean yeah since I just reinstalled wow

We're not tracking LB stacks anymore?

[quasi torrent]

well not with new tier

cause u dont have them then

[astral zephyr]

I don't have tier

[quasi torrent]

(legit just play like u have it then, which means ignore the tier set)

[wary raft]

unsure how u feel about subbing to a buy for ui stuff but naowh tracks all that

[astral zephyr]

I'll just make my own tbf, what's the execution stacks called again again

[wary raft]

for slayer? marked for execution

[astral zephyr]

‍Executioner's Precision?

[wary raft]

yes thats another execute one xd

[astral zephyr]

That's the one I'm talking about xd

[wary raft]

ye thats EP

[frank frost]

all these abbrevations

i don't know any of them

[jovial ocean]

sorry to bother, is there a benefit to using 2pc and 2pc from old and new tier? And is there a doc for the percentages like other expansions?

I can't find any info on google

[frank frost]

[wary raft]

thats definitely a sim question

[frank frost]

but also idk if there's a doc for it

[wary raft]

for me its a very small gain to 2p2p

[frank frost]

i don't even have season 1 tier set

i started the season with 580 ilvl

freshly dinged

[boreal quartz]

dingdong

[wary raft]

gm phil

[frank frost]

still rocking 619 auctionhouse blues

my best trinket is a Grim Codex at 636 ilvl

i dare you to get on my level

[wary raft]

grim codex

[frank frost]

that's right

i've done like 7 floodgates but no luck

[frank frost]

congrats 😠

[wary raft]

dw its shit ilvl on champ track so I have to go get another

[frank frost]

better then what i have

100%

wish i came back to the game earlier then i did, i played during s1 but i was playing hunter

[wary raft]

I got pretty geared in s1 then had to quit for work found a guild 2 days ago that can actually accomodate my schedule so now since I havent grinded all week my gear sucks

[wary raft]

what even is that green one LOL

[slow saddle]

Its from delves

😄

it only take 10 seconds to do dmg

😄

[frank frost]

yeah it's great

[slow saddle]

well its 1.7m in ST

[wary raft]

"after 10s" LMFAO

[frank frost]

that's half a Mortal Strike

[slow saddle]

😄

[wary raft]

please tell me if the mob moves it can miss too

[frank frost]

i have no idea

[wary raft]

or is it a ground target

[frank frost]

i just put it on for the STR

i don't actually use it

seems like a waste of time

[languid basin]

I did 50+ ara kara's in s1 to get bis trinket, hopefully your floodgate luck isn't that bad.

[wary raft]

o7

[slow garden]

For the pacemaker trinket, do i need to carry seaforium on me? Might be a stupid question

[quasi torrent]

no

[slow garden]

Good

Got it in an m0 but replaced a 580 trink 😆

[wary raft]

grats

[slow garden]

Sorry for stupid question tho

[slow garden]

I sense sarcasm

[wary raft]

there was no sarcasm

u got a good upgrade I grats u

[upper pumice]

hi guys. yesterday another fellow arms warrior told me that you dont use ravager during sweeping strikes. which one do i do first? sweeping strikes and than ravanger?

[slow garden]

Yeah im too used to sarcasm

[mild hound]

I don’t think it procs off unhinged any loner

ravager/SS

[ruby flower]

is it worth playing the crit flask when you got the floodgate trinket?

[slow garden]

Never too much crit

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[zenith warren]

could 24h2 windows update fuck up my game? I now have some weird delay on action bars, they dont update unless I mouseover

[alpine cove]

dungeon slice its good for sim?

[shadow ibex]

not really

[alpine cove]

sim 5 target?

[shadow ibex]

u can do that

[latent moss]

10 floodgate

here i come

[latent moss]

jastor diamond on first kill

thoughts

[quasi torrent]

i doubt i get first

we are only doing 1 gally hc

and surely it goes to one of our hunts instead

[latent moss]

unluck

i dont like how mastery heavy it is

w/e stats are cooked anyway

[rose venture]

how come for the circlet ring thing we go the mastery gem when thats like 2nd to last on stat priority? is there no better option idk them all

[halcyon valve]

increases the stat value of the all stats gem

[rose venture]

oooo that makes sense ty

[latent moss]

mastery is good

• since its low priority

low chance of dring and losing value

but thats irrelevant

its just a good stat

we dont have a bad stat

people yap about stats way too much

[quasi torrent]

people are 🐌 at updating sheet

so we shall see

[latent moss]

surely

[quasi torrent]

nah its gonna be 90000k for some hunter

[halcyon breach]

it's 90001k for me

[quasi torrent]

true

[quartz fox]

are the crafted gear still the same thing as season 1???? Wowhead still has the season 1 stuff......Did it not change?

[lean geode]

Does this account for swapping other gear around? e.g. it's a mast > haste ring so swapping some other gear more into crit alongside the ring would probably net more than 38k right

[quasi torrent]

its just droptimizer so no

but its not big diffy either way

cause it replaces high mast ring for me

[lean geode]

Oh word

[quasi torrent]

ill just play the "im in on every boss"

[dim basalt]

wowaudit is pretty nice

[shadow ibex]

an oldie but a goodie

[lean geode]

Me when I'm the only warrior

[quasi torrent]

im not tho :3

[thick kelp]

Anda is the better warrior

[strange perch]

No skullsplitter 😦

[spring rune]

Does Best in Slot wpn active make you unable to use a trinket active?

[quasi torrent]

he is actually pretty good

but im just

me

ig

[halcyon breach]

you're just

[winged heath]

guys2set 2set which spec is better for m+?

[shadow ibex]

the 1 u play better at

[zenith warren]

those delve trinkets aint that bad, I dropped turbo drain 5000 and funhouse lens from one delve yesterday and when simming for normalized 658ilvl they are on pair with pacemaker

[strange perch]

any reason we dont play fatality in talents or is it just that bad?

[zenith warren]

still bad

[halcyon valve]

Its bad

Shit does like 0.4% of your damage at best

The damage per stack is significantly lower than slam damage

[cerulean lava]

What is our stat prio looking like right now? I assumed Crit/Haste, but bloodmallet was saying Haste/Verse which I thought was odd

And does it change between Slayer and Colossus?

[dim basalt]

Dont trust bloodmallet

Instead look at guides

Its still crit haste anyway

[shadow ibex]

@fresh spire if no EP is there any reason to press exe as colossus

to avoid capping i mean

[eager sigil]

just as a slam replacement im guessing

[shadow ibex]

in m+ build its less than OP tooltip

[fresh spire]

filler

[maiden notch]

trinket

[shadow ibex]

for some reason i was using it above 85 to avoid capping

silly me

[mild sierra]

how does this sim so high for u

its 26k/31k for me. Slacknig on the m+ grind ?

[quasi torrent]

no 👍

i have like 5 diff 658 rings ofc

[mild sierra]

i just hope Best in slots or gally wep drops

[slow saddle]

Yes

[spring rune]

Damn. Sims has me with double on use and that wpn lol

[lofty elm]

worth upgrading a heroic track weapon to max right now?

[fallow osprey]

what ilvl do i replace circlet? i thought it was 665 for rings but I simmed and circlet is still 3k higher

[dim basalt]

You replace it when anything sims higher

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[latent moss]

pvpers make sure to kill xav

to get ur leggo

[teal fossil]

40/40/10/10

[latent moss]

100/0/0/0

real

[fallow osprey]

fair enough

[teal fossil]

Kill xan

[silk spade]

Xantaga 闲话 long talker 长篇大论 buff axe 抛光斧头 blue janitor 天空要塞看门人

[naive sage]

This kind of meme will never not make me laugh

[dim basalt]

theyre great

I like the boomkin one the most

[naive sage]

May I be graced by it?

[glossy tusk]

is mister lock n stalk good? looks weirdish

[naive sage]

I’m in tears

[dim basalt]

THE LOOTING COUNCIL 抢劫委员会 NO CORRUPT 没有腐败 FIRST GEAR TO MAIN TANK 主油箱第一档 AFTER GIRL WITH PRETTY VOICE 第二个拥有漂亮声音的女孩

[tulip wasp]

How shit are my stats

Sim just prioritized a haste mastery ring vs a crit mastery ring and wanna know if this is a case where too much haste just outweighs the need of crit

[dim basalt]

Not really a thing afaik but your sim doesnt lie

[minor gust]

trust the robot

let the sim do all thinking for you when it comes to gear and stats

[tulip wasp]

Ok gucci

Ty kind sirs

(or madames)

[lethal acorn]

If you play Colossus in all content is Crit/mastery better prio than Crit/haste?

[naive sage]

It's better to use the sim

[dim basalt]

trash man 基爾紮紮德 FIRE CIRCLE 冰精灵 ABOMBLIMBA 危險地上的圓圈 BALL MAN ball 朋友是敵人 bigbomb go boom 怪物不死族出現3 chicken down 智者應用鎖鏈 WE ROLL

[hexed parrot]

how does Best is slot weapon works?

[deft osprey]

What’s the move with crafted gear? Wep first?

[dim basalt]

ye

[minor gust]

depends if you get a mythic wep from vault or not

[deft osprey]

I got a heroic wep from m+ and fully upgraded it

Kinda regretting that

[sacred zodiac]

not the end of the world

[pearl niche]

Is seaforium like broken in SIMs? Its showing a 4k-5k dps loss at 652 to a 639 Mark of Khardros on a 5 min single target patchwerk.

[dawn cedar]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7KKdLaZoaeJfT4x2hSi8nY

why is the codex simming worse

than s1 trinkets

[sacred zodiac]

codex is ass

[dawn cedar]

for m+ ?

[wanton pumice]

for everything

[dawn cedar]

how tf

then which one should i farm from m+

[minor gust]

bad trinket is bad when compared to really good trinkets no surprise

[dawn cedar]

the floodgate one .. and what else ?

[minor gust]

^

[dawn cedar]

pfa

[wanton pumice]

Floodgate trinket is good to target farm. If you havent don't you Delvers Bounty map to try to get machano core amplifier or suspicious energy drink id probably start there

[dawn cedar]

fuck delves

no way im doing them

[wanton pumice]

its okay to want to be mediocre

it will give you your best trinket(s) aside from mythic gally and one armed bandit trinkets

[real robin]

agreed

[wanton pumice]

Do 3 delves to level it up to 8. Buy the Wave Scrambler 2000 from the AH. Go into the +8 delve and use that item at the halfway point to summon the boss. It will drop a map so you use it and then complete the delve

takes like 25 minutes maybe lmao

[opal citrus]

What Sim option do we use for Mythic +?

[quaint otter]

8t 40s to see ur burst

[glossy tusk]

i only do 12 target 10 sec

[grizzled estuary]

wait you have to kill it? xd
was barely playin and it flew

[wanton pumice]

you don't have to. it just kind of fell over for me

[grizzled estuary]

yea but i just had a radiant echo

[wanton pumice]

WYM

[trim arrow]

i just had mine spawn natty on t11

[dawn cedar]

and how many maps

can i take

1 each week ?

or multiple

[trim arrow]

bricked my no deaths of the season

[wanton pumice]

you can only get one map per week

[grizzled estuary]

ah so thats why

[trim arrow]

yeah they changed it from s1 didnt they

[grizzled estuary]

already lucked a map this week

[trim arrow]

raised map chance lowered to 1 a week

[charred brook]

How good is the suspicious energy drink

I got one from world quests earlier

I wonder if it sims better than my mythic sacbrood

[trim arrow]

i got 2 maps first week of s1

[grizzled estuary]

i cant replace a 655 energy drink atm, sims well

[charred brook]

I’ll have to check it out then

Will sim when I get home

[grizzled estuary]

didnt have sacbrood tho

[charred brook]

I’m wondering what the best target farm is rn other than floodgate

Just be rings and necks I guess

Tier and off pieces/weapons is crafted and raid so

[grizzled estuary]

[hexed parrot]

sb has a good winning streak wa?

[charred quest]

What’s that name of that item to summon the guy in the delve for your map called again?

[vivid hill]

Scrambler something. Sold by the murloc for 2000 undercoin

[vivid hill]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=233186/wave-scrambler-2000

[charred quest]

Thx!

[tender jolt]

What are you guys crafting first? Doing weapon or bracers/cloak

[manic pasture]

Does the spell reflect not work

[charred brook]

Depends on if I get a mythic weapon from vault next week

If I get weapon, craft cloak and wrist

If no weapon, craft weapon

[hexed snow]

Depends on vault

[toxic socket]

i finally got a hero track weapon.. do i use all my crests to bump it up to 665 or just wait an extra week for crafted? just wait to see what i get?

[hexed snow]

Exactly what @charred brook said

[hexed snow]

Personally for me id hold, specially if its 655

im going to hold 90/90 Runed/Gilded

[toxic socket]

yeah, ill hold then

im also sat on x2 catalyst charges.. to i just throw them into Hero gear? i only have 1 bit of set atm.

[boreal quartz]

not yet

wait vault

like imagine you cata a helm and vault a M track one

[hexed snow]

Everything is based on your vault mate + whenever you do raid

[boreal quartz]

or even a tier one

and then brick ur 4p

[hexed snow]

i will most likely wait until Thursday, which will allow me to get +90 Gilded I assume?

[toxic socket]

yeah thats fair. i am only a Heroic raider tbf and pug the first few on mythic when i can. but i do m+ so i will wait until thursday, hopefully i get some set so i can get 4p going into raid wednesday

[hexed snow]

Fair enough. I think dont stress it ngl

See what vault gives you, if you do raiding on Wed/Thur heroic, see if you get a tier piece

After that make the decision, and start pumping upgrades

[toxic socket]

isnt arms set bonus way better than everyone elses though? by a long shot? 😛

yeahhh waiting for thursday raid is a good point

[hexed snow]

I know its good, cant say statistically how good

Yeah so for me its opening vault and either be mega dissapointed, mega happy or inbetween so... Im praying for a Mythic Track weapon so I skip waiting for Spark

[charred brook]

Basically all of us yeah

Because there’s no reason for us to take a heroic BiS

[summer grotto]

Do we only go Colussus two target for Carnage Raid bosses for when they meet in the middle?

[charred brook]

Over other classes

[boreal quartz]

its st 90% of the fight

[charred brook]

I’m playing slayer still on carnage

[boreal quartz]

ive been slayering or furying

depending on vibe

[charred brook]

Traitor

[dusty depot]

Middle of the pack

[boreal quartz]

i have 1 kill on each

i main war nor arm

[charred brook]

Lies

[toxic socket]

i paly arms on everything aside 2 bosses. but once i get set, i will be arms for all

[charred brook]

I feel like I trolled a little I played arms for our gally kill

[hexed snow]

Slayer and use Sweeping strikes at the middle

[boreal quartz]

also use ava 10 secs prepull

[charred brook]

Your avatar will not line up for the 1st

Nah

[boreal quartz]

then it alligns

[charred brook]

Don’t do that it’s a gimmick

[boreal quartz]

it plays aids but it works

[charred brook]

It lines up for every other clash if you don’t

And you lose lust value

[boreal quartz]

depends what u lust then

[charred brook]

Yeah true

[boreal quartz]

since ive only pugged atm

which means lust 15 secs in or so

[charred brook]

Are we talking mythic or heroic

Mythic right

[boreal quartz]

i didnt pull mythic so idk if timer changes

no guild raiding this tier

[latent moss]

but u can just play fury take 0 damage do same with less thinking

[charred brook]

Yeah but arms big boss damages

[latent moss]

fatality on bandit and mugzee jumpscare

pi + big align

[boreal quartz]

with tom or

[latent moss]

nah

tom is like

[boreal quartz]

i think tom comes back this tier eventually

new ignore op apl

[latent moss]

7 billion dps behind

[boreal quartz]

spam slam

[latent moss]

[boreal quartz]

tierset definitely doesnt include op

its fine to ignore guys trust

[latent moss]

imagine

[boreal quartz]

BRO i need fucking Storm of swords back

on jah

REAL SOS

[latent moss]

its like spam op to get rid of the buff

phil stop coming up with shit

[boreal quartz]

we need a new cancelaura

[latent moss]

eventually u will come up with something good thats cursed

[boreal quartz]

cancel sd SPAM exe 35-31%

mega TOM

fatality in the heavens

[latent moss]

yeah too bad 3 executes in u have 3 rage

[boreal quartz]

if only unhinged didnt exist and SOS wasnt killed

[latent moss]

ur rage bar just shows 3

[boreal quartz]

bro my rage bar earlier

i press demo

swing bug

rightclick mob

wait 2 seconds

parry

freak

the

fuck

out

[latent moss]

HAHAHAHAH

why can lst boss darkflame

parry

got my cs parried twice

ms twice

its parrying a lot

[boreal quartz]

parry gives melee gameplay texture

[latent moss]

🫃

[sacred pine]

does anyone know if delver's journey is capped this week? i've done some bountiful delves with my alts to get that extra coffer key, but they didn't give any experience

[toxic socket]

for Bandit HC with no s2 set bonus, whats better, fury or arms?

[random ibex]

what is our off tier piece? im leaning chest? but could also be helm i guess

[boreal quartz]

whatever ur better at and if u need more or less ad dam decides that

[mighty bridge]

is there like a sudden death proc weak aura? im sorry if this is already posted somewhere

[tacit crystal]

@latent moss where is it

[chilly isle]

Does anyone have a nice weakaura for tracking if opportunist is active?

[boreal quartz]

google opportunist weakaura

[tacit crystal]

where is the sd one

[chilly isle]

i know where to find weakauras, was thinking if someone had a nice one

[boreal quartz]

theres a no delay one on wago

[tacit crystal]

me when ctrl f exists

[boreal quartz]

can recommnc

d*

[chilly isle]

aight, ty

[fast jolt]

Why does arms ST opener show avatar after roar? As opposed to avatar first?

[halcyon breach]

Because most of roars damage is the dot itself, the initial hit is very little, so you prefer to have as much uptime of Avatar pressing actual buttons

[quasi torrent]

dareal???

buttones??

big blast??

troar 5/8 sqrt scaling hack??

[halcyon breach]

I think you should cease these silly mathematical terms

They're too advanced for my feeble addled mind

[quasi torrent]

maybe i jump into hole

on gally

hole in 1

[halcyon breach]

I did it before you

you're just copying at this point

[quasi torrent]

The OG?

[gusty nymph]

We still playing rager on st or did they fix it yet?

[halcyon breach]

They haven't done any tuning so you still play it when applicable

[quasi torrent]

You play it if u like it

[gusty nymph]

T’y Banezi 👌

[quasi torrent]

it sims like 8k behind for me on jugg build

so i just play it

(cause fuck BS)

[halcyon breach]

I love having half a hero talent

[quasi torrent]

u only lose 2 1/2 nodes

don't be so dramatic

that's 1/4 of the tree

[halcyon breach]

Said nodes are for sure also not a big part of what the hero talent is about

[quasi torrent]

me when my 3 stack mfe glows in rav build

[fresh spire]

[quasi torrent]

(i may ignore it to press more MS)

i dont know nor care if this is optimal

i just think its funny

[halcyon breach]

I will not comment on such things, because I absolutely bombed my Cauldron kill

Aka

No dam done

[quasi torrent]

frigg juggerton

[halcyon breach]

be better at pressing execute

[quasi torrent]

splitting mugzee was turbo balls

but i got hoc and bis hc

[halcyon breach]

As usual Anda gets lootfed

nothing new

Also no kill on Rik means no Reverberation Radio chance in my vaultussy

If only I also got as much loot as this guy

[quasi torrent]

u get seaforium myth track or wep in vault

100%

[halcyon breach]

If so then maybe I can look somewhat skillful on the meters

[magic canopy]

more like get machano aplifier in your delve slot

[halcyon breach]

It would be good but I would really hate for my first vault to be a hero track item

[quasi torrent]

If i dont get it from map next week im exploding

i forgot which one amplifier is

that's the 90s on use isn't it

if it is, don't want it

got hoc

[halcyon breach]

That's the funhouse lens

[quasi torrent]

Ah

so i want mechano

[magic canopy]

fuck that noe

[halcyon breach]

Amplifier is something something passive

[magic canopy]

one

[fierce moon]

Anyone having trouble beating rets in M+? I cant seem to get passed these dudes

[noble oxide]

Heroic Dumpster Diver or 636 crafted sword with ascendance?

[random ibex]

ilevel > emblishment?

[noble oxide]

yeah id probably recraft some offpieces for duskthread in this case

[broken arrow]

I do M+ exclusively with my friend who is a ret pala and he's always above me. On a good run i'll be like 5% below him. Tho I'm kinda shit and mess up openers on big packs and such 😅

[random ibex]

What flask are people using?

[reef glade]

Alchemical chaos

[random ibex]

fair, haste flask sims like .5% less dps

but it feels more consistent

[civic ledge]

What's the max level delve needed for the weekly vault...is it still level 8?

[random ibex]

i believe so

if i wanted to sim flasks what would i add at the bottom

[strange perch]

Hi. What's easier and lowest effort to play "well enough" in raids. Arms or fury?

[tender jolt]

Thanks for the reply! And yeah fair enough 😛 was thinking the same

[dusty depot]

Yeah, a good ret is probably close to 10% higher on overall damage vs a good arms in mythic+ generally

[uncut shard]

Where are you getting those numbers

[fierce moon]

Do we beat them in raid?

[quick skiff]

ARMS HUGE

[mild rock]

Does colo Arms stronger than thane fury in m+?

[minor gust]

both are strong at their own things play what you like

[opal swallow]

nope, they do so much consistant and high dps its crazy

and they have battle rez. Wondering why warriors dont get lust tbh

[glossy tusk]

What do i do now?

[sour forge]

Mythic raid

[void bay]

play a decent game

[sour forge]

Fill up that vault

[glossy tusk]

my guild kinda casual were on slot machine heroic

[warm thicket]

is it worth for arms warrior replace first 2 piece from season 1 withs eason 2 ?

[glossy tusk]

on my sims yeah at least

now even higher ilvl stuff is beating old 2 set som im new 2 set and just highest ilvl in rest

[glossy tusk]

But without simmage you wont know for surage

but 2-2 is deffo stronker

[glossy tusk]

but i need trinkets man

[void bay]

im using 623 and 619....get outta here

[glossy tusk]

get gud

[minor gust]

get 10s

[glossy tusk]

Thank you was looking for this answer

[minor gust]

wait a minute you abused my abillity to not read

you posted delve portion

[glossy tusk]

lol yeah so what do i do

im tired of this fricking brewery man

no necks

[void bay]

ive been trying for 20 years....never got there

[glossy tusk]

at least ur a toilet legend

[void bay]

thats my one achievement in life

[glossy tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-toilet-creek-river-water-gif-18010679595940988269

[minor gust]

I mean shit if your vault is done your either farming dungeons for specific gear or go play an alt or go IO push

[glossy tusk]

yeah true ill probably go alt after one more brew

actually its a flood

[warm thicket]

@echo token Thanks!

[void bay]

that's how I became a Toilet Legend

[glossy tusk]

I GOT FLOOD TRINKET YEY

[soft gust]

Does anyone know about what % increase in dps the tier set is this season? or somewhere I could look that up

[glossy tusk]

@soft gust

[soft gust]

Thanks 🙂

[lean geode]

@reef glade This makes me sad for you

[reef glade]

what

[lean geode]

From your sprocket log

Me when 70% of my globals are slam

[reef glade]

i didnt play arms on that?

or normal

[lean geode]

Normal ya

Just needed logs of people playing bladestorm

[reef glade]

idk 0 thought behind what happened there

[reef glade]

dont remember what i got

[lean geode]

Git gud idiot

Yours is r12 arms rn

[reef glade]

coo

[lean geode]

Lost to gajeel unlucker

[teal fossil]

can just alt f4 rn

[narrow dawn]

do we allready have spell reflect wa for dungeons ?

nvm found one

didnt asked

[junior sparrow]

Am I better off keeping my myth s1 4pc, or if I have full hero just replace it with the hero pieces for main stat and secondary’s

[void bay]

Sim it

[molten marsh]

hey is there any secret to maintaining juggernaut or is it just rng? im on the dummy and even when i hold the sd procs until juggernaut is about to fall i lose it very often

[vagrant heron]

when do you stop wearing the cyrce circlet?

[grand idol]

#updates-midnight

[radiant lion]

@deft girder RELAX

[slow saddle]

Luck. And yes holding is the key

We arent rly supposed to be able to have 15 stacks into execute

[molten marsh]

thanks hopefully it grows on me lol

[rain cipher]

For some reasons Legendary Skipper is simming higher than Windsinger. Should I trust the sim? #updates-midnight message

[dim basalt]

You always trust the sim, no exceptions

[lunar remnant]

im getting all fury drops ..

[quaint otter]

[real birch]

I know it gets asked a lot. The Crafting order says "cloak" but I should craft the wrists first, right?

[naive sage]

Wow analyzer?

[untold pewter]

Not really important, do whichever you have lower ilvl

Wait for vault just in case

Assuming you have mythic track coming from it

[clever crag]

Got Amorphous Relic trink

Seems pretty trash

[weak wave]

I would wait and craft a weapon first.

[slow saddle]

100% a gamble but feels better if u dont get m track weap in vault early

but seeing i pug ilvl is king in M+ so

2 x pieces at max i lvl vs 1 is not hard

^_ ^

[native kite]

Is there a certain amount of haste we are aiming for or is it just get as much as u can while evening out crit and to a lesser extent mastery?

[dim basalt]

You get as much haste as your sims tell you

theres nothing to aim for, you equip what sims best

[sacred zodiac]

i got a really bad log on the slot machine i will now wowanalyze the reason for it

reasonable complaint

[midnight mural]

quite interresting to use wowanalyzer... looks like i might need to track opportunist buff more closely..

[dim basalt]

It does not seem to be up-to-date tho

We dont care about 2x MP in execute anymore

Oh wait Im misreading it

[slow saddle]

ye so if u execute and OP procs

u send it

and then ms

is all

[astral yarrow]

if you are below 85 rage yes

all 3 conditions need to be met

[normal mason]

When do we get next crafting spark? Next reset or the one after?

[astral yarrow]

your next full spark is on the 3rd week of raid being out

[thick kelp]

85 rage opportunsit only exists when playing ravager

[quasi torrent]

and the 2 MP thing just doesn't rly happen in execute honestly

MS
opp proc
op
Exe
opp proc
op
Exe
opp proc
)))) op

is the only timeline

and noway you're below 85rage there

[astral yarrow]

oh, that was changed

actions.slayer_execute+=/overpower,if=buff.martial_prowess.stack<2&buff.opportunist.up&talent.opportunist&(talent.bladestorm|talent.ravager&rage<85)for anyone who cares

[slow saddle]

where is the bladestorm ?:D

in the prio

[torn rivet]

yo folks

non-gameplay related question:
night elf arms looks pretty good in animations but I was wondering how's dracthyr animations looking? since they're the "most modern" race atm

[quasi torrent]

but this says its only <85 when rav is specced

[astral yarrow]

yes

[thick kelp]

indeed

[magic canopy]

so if 2 MP we disregard opprtunist and press exe or ms?

[thick kelp]

ye

[edgy solstice]

[magic canopy]

roger

[quasi torrent]

comma missing, sentence diff sense like this

[astral yarrow]

yeah i see it

[quasi torrent]

[astral yarrow]

now i will edit it so you look dumdum

[quasi torrent]

I press op too much in exe for sure

[astral yarrow]

gottem

[quasi torrent]

but im also brain dmg

and have killed 2 bosses as arms this tier

[astral yarrow]

i just balance rage and dont care too much about whether OP was correct there or not

[quasi torrent]

🤷‍♂️

[astral yarrow]

do you do splits @quasi torrent

[quasi torrent]

2x 8/8nm, 2x 7/8hc

gally we combined

took... way too long

[astral yarrow]

and here i am at 3 splits with 2 pc normal tier and 0 loot to speak of

[quasi torrent]

i got

normal tier hands
hc tier legs
hc head with sockie
hc bis
hc hoc

oh and hc radio

da radio

[astral yarrow]

yeah ofc

1 zenith token through my main split

0 weapons

[quasi torrent]

i also had nm bis

[astral yarrow]

0 useful trinkets

[quasi torrent]

cause no one wanted it

[boreal quartz]

hoc is gally wep or

i forgor acronym

[quasi torrent]

no

house of cards

[boreal quartz]

ah

ta

[quasi torrent]

gally is capital punisher

[thick kelp]

you dont want to know the gally wep

CP

[quasi torrent]

DO NOT ABBREVIATE IT

NO

STOP

[astral yarrow]

uh oih

[quasi torrent]

WE ARE NOT ABBREVIATING CAPITAL PUNISHER

[boreal quartz]

cappi P

[thick kelp]

CPunisher

[boreal quartz]

combo points

[astral yarrow]

walhe instantly on a list

[quasi torrent]

cod points

[hexed snow]

Where can I get these?

[astral yarrow]

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/profiles/TWW2/TWW2_Warrior_Arms.simc

[hexed snow]

Thanks :)

[astral yarrow]

👍

[thick kelp]

Assuming I wasnt on a list before this

[hexed snow]

I can read code but first line I understand it as slayer.execute or Overpower if- these situations

[boreal quartz]

on a list for having a philwar

[hexed snow]

So the thing says Overpower over Execute only if these situations? Or have I read it incorrectly? @astral yarrow

[thick kelp]

The guide exists for people who cant read the apl

[quasi torrent]

its a priority list
you press the button that first returns "true" on the right-hand-side

[thick kelp]

since the guide is the apl

but in a understandable format

[quasi torrent]

you will need to be able to read boolean algebra for this to make sense

[hexed snow]

It was more just the +=/ that caught me a bit confused

[quasi torrent]

that just adds the next line

Basically

you care about whats to the right-hand-side of that operator

[hexed snow]

I understand like 90% of it just not that part

[hexed snow]

Thanks mate

[junior spruce]

Are there arms warrior guides for LoU? Would love to get a feel for when to pop CDs and stuff.

[hexed snow]

What language is the APL coded in?

[quasi torrent]

in the simc apl format

))

[hexed snow]

Looks like LUA or C++

[quasi torrent]

Simc itself is written in c++

[hexed snow]

Haven't rly coded in those :(

[boreal igloo]

never really played arms in keys, do u just cleave when its up essentially?

[hexed snow]

Ah ok

[boreal quartz]

ye

[quasi torrent]

Cleave good

[boreal igloo]

3 or less MS prio?

[quasi torrent]

if you have coded at all youll know some logic assignments and that's kinda all you need for apl

[hexed snow]

Ye ye I'm coding rn

[quasi torrent]

the rest is just knowing some syntax ofc

[hexed snow]

😂

I'm a developer

[quasi torrent]

Im sorry to hear that

[hexed snow]

My hairline thanks you

[boreal igloo]

🤣

[sacred zodiac]

so is it just press opp in execute

[quasi torrent]

bro spongussy

u can read this...

[sacred zodiac]

do you want to be decked

[quasi torrent]

decked in loot sure

oh wait, i am

[sacred zodiac]

i can also read a "press execute if overwhelmed is at 9 stacks and ur about to pop brutal finish" conditional that doesnt mean i have to play around it

[quasi torrent]

xaxaxaxaxa

[sacred zodiac]

wtf men i thought ur gm lootbanned u!!!!!!

[boreal igloo]

idk wtf that says ngl i thought that shit said dont exe if u got oppo proc

[quasi torrent]

u press op if you don't have big rage and opp konda

[sacred zodiac]

only if playing cringe ravager tho

[quasi torrent]

Well as exe comes after that line in the apl that's kinda what it says

but the slayer_exe at the front just means its part of the action list

[boreal igloo]

ah

does that mean if ur gonna BS u should send it before then?

(exe)

[quasi torrent]

if right side evaluates to true, yes

[boreal igloo]

kk

[quasi torrent]

just press buttons honest

[boreal igloo]

i just be hittin shit

[hexed snow]

I gotta check the guide ngl

It's nice to understand the APL a bit

But I'm not aiming to log 100s anyway

[quasi torrent]

think a lot of people get hung up on micro opts

[boreal igloo]

i see that gold around OP i just press that mf

[quasi torrent]

that will just lose them damage

[boreal igloo]

if its got gold its gotta mean something thats how i look at it LMFAOOO

[hexed snow]

Yeah only to get sucked into the void on sprocketmonger

Khanz moment

[sacred zodiac]

some of the APL lines are actual bait

[quasi torrent]

atleast u didn't jump in the hole on gally

[sacred zodiac]

king

[quasi torrent]

that would be really silly

[hexed snow]

Bro I got push backed and my character started gliding on ice

[boreal igloo]

i went to leap towards that mf flying away and somehow didnt leap and fell in the hole... we got the kill rip the parse

[sacred zodiac]

i tried shadowstepping sprocketmonger in intermission but shadowstepping doesnt reset your momentum apparently so i just flew into a hole with the knock momentum

hole in one

[quasi torrent]

man ice shoes on uhhh mugzee

is bad as dragon

if u press glide u just get momentum in the direction u were gliding

not in the glide facing

[sacred zodiac]

deserved for dragon

[quasi torrent]

shut up velf Player

[sacred zodiac]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2401428964?t=3h59m48s

consider this shadow step play

oh shit i can just velf tp this boss

[quasi torrent]

yes

[sacred zodiac]

i should try to make that button work more often than it should

it is time to make a useless 2p tracker that plays a gambling noise when it goes above 7

[boreal quartz]

777

[boreal igloo]

might as well

[boreal quartz]

🎰

[swift crown]

King into the disorient circle

[sacred zodiac]

could NOT have played that better

[swift crown]

Look at clips on your channel

I made a banger

[sacred zodiac]

is it the crashout

[swift crown]

yea

[sacred zodiac]

i think its incredibly king to crash out and then to clip it

[swift crown]

Watching that back

it was incredidbly justified

[sacred zodiac]

ye idk why you apologized

[swift crown]

Still don't like to

scream into mic

🤷‍♂️

I full deafened for Stix to calm down

[slow saddle]

For the Love of GOD :: 2nd boss in rookery

uptime im possible

[naive sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1334433704579305502/Wow_fQxLTuFkGz.gif

[sacred zodiac]

rest well uwu weakaura

tbf you can repurpose it but the 2x2 condition just wont happen often

[viral locust]

Feeling this lol especially when he does the aoe you can stand in and leap out last minute but sometimes he has the damaging pool under it sadge

At least this fixed first boss intermission for melee though

[quasi torrent]

i think u gotta do

LETS GO GAMBLING whenever u hit >= 7

and then

GAWD DAMMNIT when u lose

[icy mulch]

Just some random slot machine noises?

[slow saddle]

100%

[slow saddle]

i dno man, he can just fuck off, uptime impossible and im trying to get or give debuff to some1 so we dont whipe

[sacred zodiac]

i was thinking of smth similar

[vapid pine]

Isn't it only relevant when adds are up? Or on ST as well?

[shadow ibex]

I think they will change that fight in a few weeks

[slow saddle]

it is very very melee punishing

[shadow ibex]

The downtime is just unenjoyable

It's not even difficult just annoying

[viral locust]

Invite a DK next time and just cheese mode the debuff 😅 it was perfect inviting dk tank and DPS easy mode, plus this stage you can plate stack

[broken arrow]

Finally some value out of heroic throw

[slow saddle]

i cant fuckin stack in 9 or 10s

[shadow ibex]

Wait until general forums and reddit does it more

Then they will change it

[slow saddle]

it is very unfair as melee ( not ret)

coz u cant even hit half the time

[viral locust]

Think there's some stacking issues to where he leap though, if you got range baiting weird can screw the melees

[broken arrow]

That boss trolled me so hard, I died to bad debuf swapping. Got combat rezzed in china, the tornado ability went off. I am smart, i will wait 5 seconds for them to clear. Rezzed right on top of one on the far side of the room and instantly died again

[viral locust]

Skill issue

[broken arrow]

Indeed

[viral locust]

Just die an afk, no melee uptime issues or debuffs to manage

[broken arrow]

I mean, the rest did kill the boss. Legit strat

[fallen agate]

Just get one of the galli weapons that debuff stays on the boss till it dies or resets. Just don't be a parse monkey cause if you die and the debuff is ticking away... well kiss your DPS goodbye.

[dim basalt]

Its crazy how hard OP hits with the 2p

[shadow ibex]

It's harder than exe as colossus

Just strictly better

There's really no reason to use stuff other than cleave op and MS in the m+ build

[dim basalt]

yup

Cant wait for 4p gaming

M+ dps will go stonks

[midnight mural]

@astral yarrow Wanna see something hot?

[halcyon valve]

Anybody tried dreadnaught with the buffs and tier set yet?

[boreal quartz]

still meh

[dim basalt]

We had multiple 7% wipes on mugzee yesterday

Within 10 pulls total

[halcyon valve]

Unluckers

[dim basalt]

Died to enrage on last attempt

[midnight mural]

u play arms on mugzee? Tell ur raid to let u not soak (the small soaks) in last phase 😄

[dim basalt]

I play arms on every fight ye

I rarely soak the small ones lol

[midnight mural]

i mean the one thats split in 2

[dim basalt]

ye

[midnight mural]

where u get walled in

oh damn

[dim basalt]

We have so many people react within 100ms

I dont even get to move there

oh

Well I dont mind the add honestly

But might suggest that

[midnight mural]

Its not that

It's for your to stay on boss with execute

[dim basalt]

Considering how hard we execute

[midnight mural]

U should do alot of dam in p3 😄

[boreal quartz]

we love bl p3

[dim basalt]

Is that how you do it?

[boreal quartz]

uptime rat

[midnight mural]

Yes - zug boss

[dim basalt]

BL lines perfectly with cds

Its so insane

[boreal quartz]

reminds me of fyrakk p3 bl

[sacred zodiac]

i will consider pressing ravager and then a few executes

[boreal quartz]

slavager mentioned what the frick

actually tho slavager does more exe than bs slayer right

[dim basalt]

ye

Also didnt think of playing Ravager on Mugzee

[low shore]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/twisting-nether/Spenwarlockg is this bug or? 675 weapon and off hand

[boreal quartz]

its just mythic raid drop

• crafted wep

ur looking at wf raider gear afterall

[chilly isle]

Liquid really went 4 windwalkers yesterday against Sprocket

And nobody is dooming on the warrior discord?

[boreal quartz]

why would we

there will be 2+ warriors on last 2

[swift crown]

maybe

[chilly isle]

Idk, dooming is kind of the default state

[swift crown]

potentially

even if not Warrior isn't bad

🤷‍♂️

[halcyon valve]

Execute baby

[rare kite]

echo going 2 warriors on sprocket tho

[vapid pine]

Sprocketmonger uptime might be rough tbh

RA Fury would be kinda cringe