arms

[naive breach]

motherlode

[shadow ibex]

honestly

theater of pain is getting 10000% nerfed when more ppl do it

idk if blizz realises how fuckin stupid a 5 boss dungeon is

[naive breach]

aww sheit top i forgor

[shadow ibex]

doesnt matter how easy or hard it is its just a slog

[steep osprey]

So many bosses are terrible for melee

Is it just me

[reef birch]

why isnt critcake using warbreaker in m+

what am i missing

[steep osprey]

Maybe he’s playing slayer

[reef birch]

he is

but i dont get why still

[smoky kayak]

See the middle #1273899844599283733

[steep osprey]

Slayer loses a lot more single target damage by going into WB, I think?

[regal wharf]

honestly

i think my positive feelings on theatre of pain are influenced because I did the craziest clutch up on a +3 yesterday

everyone was dead and I was able to whittle away the very last part of the bosses health with ice lance

[lunar remnant]

Fury beating arms on Mug that’s surprising

[torn rivet]

yo folks

we don't do dreadnaught no more?

[shadow ibex]

DN does no dmg

its like staple 3.3% of ur overall p much

doesnt do much mroe or less than that

[torn rivet]

makes sense, cheers

[misty bridge]

The divider

[valid sage]

Wierd question, my new warr has engineering, whst exectly do I toss in the tinker slot in the helmet? (Just made a 629 for ilvl)😅

[hushed pine]

Invis so you don't have to buy potions anymore

[lunar remnant]

Can I get rid of it?

[misty bridge]

a new monitor

[rigid ravine]

anyone know if mechano core amp can drop from delves?

[ruby flower]

when do we swap set?

[shadow ibex]

do higher tier delves have better chance for a heroic ilvl map

[simple wren]

anyone that knows of a good tldr-youtube-guide for the raid?

[olive nest]

i liked dratnos's vid

[remote ledge]

Any timestamp or video of when he's doing this? Prolly playing juggernaut slayer

[stable fiber]

arms owns so hard in cinderbrew

[lean geode]

The Ready Check Pull guides are quite good for normal/heroic

[dreamy sandal]

Bois, is this a guaranteed drop from the Underpin?

[simple wren]

thanks!

[dreamy sandal]

Just got it

[valid sage]

Thanks!

[true ridge]

Not what you're asking but what is that weakaura that shows item upgrade level?

[simple wren]

did i get this wrong, but you bladestorm and then MS after you get 2xexec precision?

[untold pewter]

I read the embelishment guides but would like to pick your guys' brains

Are you holding for weapon or going straight to double dusk/dawn?

[charred brook]

Honestly depends what I get on vault

[grave cedar]

I'm personally waiting till second spark. If I dont get a myth track weapon by that mornings vault (or even by that week's reclear), then I will craft right before prog

[charred brook]

If I get a mythic weapon in vaults I’ll go to cloak/wrist embell

But if I don’t get one by then I’ll prob craft

As I wont see a mythic BiS for a while since we likely will only clear the boss once or twice

[stark cape]

For all of you fellow 2-4 Set Arms Gaming Gigachads. Do we have any Weakaura tracker for the "Winning Streak!" buff? 😛

[grave cedar]

Is there any gameplay change involved with it?

[stark cape]

Not really.

Just goes to 10 stacks of a 5% overpower buff.

[grave cedar]

So what do you need to track?

[teal fossil]

there kind of is

You want to start prioing OP more at 7 stacks or so

Or when you have buff already to gamble on it

[stark cape]

I still have catalyst and heroic to do so pretty much 4 set inc

[teal fossil]

Aotc week 1 let’s go

[devout pewter]

Does anyone remember when CS was applied with the old animation? On button press or after the animation?

[shadow ibex]

WB was that

[devout pewter]

Or warbreaker, yeah sorry

[naive sage]

You can easily do it yourself, just look for the buff id

[devout pewter]

Because if it was on button press, the new animation could be a very slight buff lmao

[shadow ibex]

you could avatar mid WB animation

and get the avatar BS + avatar boost on WB

[devout pewter]

Can you not Avatar in warbreaker anymore?

Haven't noticed that yet

[dreamy sandal]

Gear Upgrade Rank Tooltip Renamer 2

is the name

[true ridge]

Thanks king

[shadow ibex]

u can im talking about when we had hurricane

[pallid olive]

anyone has an updated spell reflect weak aura for s2?

[untold pewter]

I got a hero track weapon and unsure if I should spend the 30 gilded crests to send it to 665 until crafting...

[shadow ibex]

im just gonna farm a hero weap

and send bracers/cloak

[untold pewter]

I think ima do that too tbh

[charred brook]

For me hero track weapon with bracers/cloak simmed like 45k less than a mythic crafted wep with ascension

So idek what I’m gonna do yet prob just see if I get a mythic weapon from first 2 vaults

Competing with so many people for the raid weapons anyways

[gaunt owl]

always hold first week

no need to rush

[empty raft]

holy trinity

[gaunt owl]

SMH blizzard reused the Raszageth pool texture on the slot machine boss

laziness lvl rising

[shadow ibex]

pulled hero helm with socke

so tempted to cata

[gaunt owl]

HOLD IT

HOLD

[shadow ibex]

for what

[gaunt owl]

next week maybe

even RWF player dont spend shit for now

they wait til the dps check kick in

[charred brook]

U can’t tell me what to do ur retired

[gaunt owl]

because i held so long

i could retire early

[charred brook]

Holy

This guy is on to something

[gaunt owl]

[shadow ibex]

why they do stuff gonna be different for why avg player

[gaunt owl]

you wont have the funnel power they do

[charred brook]

No warrior should get any upgrades for 2 weeks so we can make sure we don’t get nerfed

[gaunt owl]

but its smarter if you hold it to get the best upgrade in the first 2-3 weeks

[charred brook]

If you get an upgrade don’t equip it yet

[gaunt owl]

you are smorter than me

big brain move

[charred brook]

Bro we ran double arms last night and omg

We shredded boss damage

[shadow ibex]

we get another charge from aotc right

[charred brook]

It felt like the meme video of fury juggernaut execute

We both would shoot straight to the top in execute

[gaunt owl]

from AOTC you get the stone thingy to trade no ?

[shadow ibex]

or 2k achieve

nah they removed that i think

[charred brook]

You get a catalyst I believe

[shadow ibex]

because it was free heroic item

idk socket helm with tert gonna be hard not to cata that

[untold pewter]

You get catalyst yeah

[slow saddle]

Keep in mind some specs gain a lot more power from 4p

[pliant vessel]

arms is S tier?

[devout pewter]

Always was

[gaunt owl]

its S in my heart

[untold pewter]

Arms is good tiers are for nerds

[devout pewter]

Thats an insult to nerds honestly. Meta gobblers arent nerds lmao

[charred brook]

Arms is for people who fuck

[slow saddle]

I mean, fury is above arms in raid?

[pliant vessel]

cant decide if warr or pala ffs

[slow saddle]

Pala

[devout pewter]

I suspected an influx of new people here a week or so ago, lets see how its gonna be

[charred brook]

Disregard mechanics and smash execute

[slow saddle]

Warr will get nerfed

[pliant vessel]

what why

[devout pewter]

What are mechanics?

[slow saddle]

More

[charred brook]

Fury is above arms because it is stronger without the new tier

[pliant vessel]

really???

[slow saddle]

We sim top 5

[charred brook]

They are even once you get 4p

[rare kite]

always does when it's top tier

[slow saddle]

Exactly

[pliant vessel]

really?

[rare kite]

yes

[pliant vessel]

why you say palaaa?

[slow saddle]

But ret is very strong in m+

[charred brook]

Fury will look really good week 1 because they are really strong without tier, they don’t get a huge jump in damage like arms does

[pliant vessel]

i thought ret is bad on m+

[steep osprey]

Have you been playing fury in m+?

[rare kite]

yes, been playing a bit of arms as well. but more fury

fury fun

[true ridge]

Me reading the latest tier list click bait and basing my character choice off it

[lone imp]

Ain't there like, a good trinket that drops from delves? Is it a specific delve or just in the loot list for all of them

[slow saddle]

No

[slow saddle]

I choose warrior evry tier

[true ridge]

Like a real man

[steep osprey]

How's it ocmpared to other classes

spcs

[slow saddle]

Fury slaps bosses

[lunar remnant]

Fury on normal except for caldron / mug’zee is how it’s looking

[rare kite]

i'm playing with premade. one of the players is a very good ret player and i'm beating him atm

[pliant vessel]

hmmm

ret also easier than arms right?

[slow saddle]

Ofc

But he will get buffed

And we will get nerfed

[lunar remnant]

Ret easiest spec in game

[pliant vessel]

LOL why?

[steep osprey]

wasn't ret fixed today

[slow saddle]

Coz he is ret

[pliant vessel]

easier than BM?

[lunar remnant]

ye

[rare kite]

i doubt he will get buffed. but we will certainly get nerfed ahhahah @slow saddle

[loud escarp]

Is there any reason not to just use thunderclap to apply rend in ST situations?

[lunar remnant]

You a melee with range abilities

[slow saddle]

Not rly

[lunar remnant]

Doesn’t get much easier than that

[steep osprey]

I'm maining enha

But I'll play warrior as 2nd char

[slow saddle]

My alt has often been ret

[lunar remnant]

Oh we’re nerfed for sure

[slow saddle]

Just coz its eady

[lunar remnant]

liquids gonna run 3 warriors

[loud escarp]

ty

[slow saddle]

And no warrior is not op

[pliant vessel]

arms is hard to play?

[slow saddle]

No

[lunar remnant]

Depends who’s playing it

[slow saddle]

Warrior is very good atm ngl

[rare kite]

good choice. i said to my gm that i would go enhance if we didn't have 4 shamans. shaman one of the few classes i play every expansion

[lunar remnant]

what’s ez for me may not be ez for u

[gaunt owl]

Simple doesnt exists

[agile crown]

arms is not hard to play

[steep osprey]

Dude, we have 4 warriors and I was about to choose warrior but that's too much

[true ridge]

I mean rend technically does more damage but will it really matter? Probably not

[lunar remnant]

but imo no arms is maybe a little harder than fury

[gaunt owl]

knowledge and practice make it look simple

[pliant vessel]

2 targets we use slam? 3+ we use Cleave?

[lunar remnant]

Please check Pins/faqs

Before you start the questions haha

[loud escarp]

@true ridge But it says it applies rend, so wouldn't that mean it's doing the full damage of rend too?

[gaunt owl]

The dot part is the same

[true ridge]

The rend button does more upfront damage

The dot is the same

Clap just does aoe damage

[steep osprey]

btw some bosses are trash for melee in dungeons

it's insane

[shell veldt]

Sorry if this is in the faq I didn't see it but is there a simple explanation of how to use a 2 min trinket with arms or is it nuanced?

[rare kite]

yee. i also genuinely enjoy battelord colossus, would enjoy it more if cds didn't desync. my biggest problems with arms is just exacerbated by slayer. slayer actually feels so shit

[lunar remnant]

Very minimal increase using rend over clap in ST situations, don’t have to use rend at all if you don’t want

[slow saddle]

Fact

[sage badge]

priory 9

[slow saddle]

Ye evoker shines in new tirt

Before that we fack em

[fickle oar]

colossus feels very awkward to play

[shadow ibex]

execute is useless

i removed EP

[gaunt owl]

Frappe Mortelle

[lunar remnant]

It gets better especially in m + at least I feel like I always have a cooldown available for each pack unlike fury I felt like I was only strong every 1.5min

[hushed pine]

Colossus shines in aoe content

[rare kite]

fury right now you have cds all the time

[true ridge]

I'm just glad we have 2 dps specs that are both good

[gaunt owl]

last tier both were good

[shell veldt]

does it make sense to macro a 2 min trinket to cs/wb or would that be bad?

[gaunt owl]

the boss fight just were heavily Fury favored before Fury got kneecapped

[gaunt owl]

its not good to macro trinket with CS or WB

if its a 1min30 trinket you could do that with Avatar 100%

[shell veldt]

yeah that's what im used to but i got this priory trinket and idk how to use it lol

[gaunt owl]

because sometimes its better to have your trinket with Avatar instead of CS depends on duration / dmg amp etc...

[lunar remnant]

Or just be a giga chad and macros CS with avatar and trink

(Jk don’t do this)

[vivid ore]

anyone that got the "best in slots weapon" what do you macro it with?

[slow saddle]

What did u take instead

[shell veldt]

avatar, it's your "trinket"

[vivid ore]

i already have 2 use trinket which makes it awful

lol

[shell veldt]

ripp

i think weapon is highest prio tho

[slow saddle]

Dont

[vivid ore]

i mean i just switched to warrior for this season, and thats all i could get

trying to get a passive one

[shell veldt]

If anyone else was wondering I checked raidbots ability log and with 2 min trinket you just hold it for every other avatar, very simple lol

[lunar remnant]

Damn bandit is literally split between fury and arms

Idk what the play is anymore lol

[gaunt owl]

just make a list of the 2min trinket, maybe there is some optimization to do

depends how our brother cooked the APL it could be min / maxed

[vivid ore]

anyone know the number for /use for the weapon?

trinkets are 13 and 14

[floral girder]

Holding trinket for big cooldowns is a generic line in simc and may not have been updated for trinkets specifically this season

[floral girder]

just /use name

[gaunt owl]

they are actually getting caught with a smart line to line it up with Avatar

[vivid ore]

doesnt workfor some reason

[gaunt owl]

/use 16 or 17 maybe ?

[halcyon breach]

16 is main hand

[vivid ore]

yah 16 works ty

the name didnt

[gaunt owl]

you need to shift click on the weapon when you have the macro toolbox open

so it does write it properly into it

but yeah 16 is better

[vivid ore]

i did

maybe theres a bug with the name of that weapon since its a bit unconventional

[shadow ibex]

bb or bloodsurge

rage is actually cringe with no wft

[slow saddle]

Ye true

[chilly isle]

Anyone else having problems with the Spell Reflect Essentials WA not working in m+?

[slow saddle]

Though with no ep

No reason to press executr

[quaint otter]

priory 8

[slow saddle]

Yes monk is better than us

[lunar remnant]

13/14 is trink slot

Damn reroll brb

[gaunt owl]

maybe its not updated yet ?

[slow saddle]

But its monk leather wearing mofos

[lunar remnant]

Monk is fun asf idc

[chilly isle]

it says its updated for season 2, but it doesnt seem to activate to show the bar when im targeted

i guess ill try to delete and reinstall it

[lunar remnant]

Fistweaving best healer spec for warr main

[gaunt owl]

you need an other WA with it iirc look again at the wago description

or maybe blizzard restricted the WA even more this season

[quaint otter]

ngl current ww became boring for me since im playing 8 hrs in a row now lmao

[steep osprey]

Sucks not having M+ team

[lunar remnant]

True I could see the don’t hit same thing twice getting old

[quaint otter]

Its not really

[slow saddle]

This

Stuck in low keys coz ppl are bad

[steep osprey]

Is getting the motherlode WQ reward an exploit

[grizzled estuary]

hey guys, might someone be so kind to have a look at my logs please? not sure what im doing wrong (lowish ilvl, 633)

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YWRTGyBCDvZwad9b?fight=24&type=damage-done&source=743

looks like im not pressing cleave enough but that surprises me tbh, i ahve the feeling its perma on cd
also im wondering about

1. demolish, do you always throw it with SS+WB
2. do you stall ravager if SS is on CD?

1.6mln on details

[fickle oar]

literally nobody is talking about this so it must be just me but wtf has happened to performance this patch? operation floodgate is dropping me like 20 fucking fps in most areas

has nobody else had similar results?

[floral girder]

I haven't looked at the log but you're likely fooling yourself for keeping cleave on cd

[grizzled estuary]

i mean on AOE, sry

[astral talon]

anyone got working bs/ravager macro?

[floral girder]

It's a very short cd so every gcd spent not cleaving, is a significant % of a another cleave press

[tacit crystal]

drop deez

[grizzled estuary]

not sure to understand what you mean mate please, like i'm surely missing some cleaves?

[lunar remnant]

Cleave can reset itself too soo keep an eye out for that but yeah you have like double the amount of MS vs your cleave

[floral girder]

yeah so it might come off cd and you press a different ability instead, which if it's like a 3s cooldown is 33% of the cooldown wasted

[tacit crystal]

@astral talon #1237307732705415228 message

[floral girder]

do that 3 times in a pull, that's a full cleave you've missed out on

[void bay]

runs fine for me

[grizzled estuary]

ok thanks, yes i'm trying to always throw it but that must be the issue then, i set up a WA for resets , much appreciated guys thanks

[astral talon]

thanks ❤️

[fickle oar]

oops

[fickle oar]

What's your specs?*

And also what is "fine" to you?

[void bay]

5900x, 32gig, 4090, 1440p.....fine is like 60FPS+ when loads of shit is going on

[fickle oar]

Yeah I'm talking about my game normally being 100fps locked and it dropping as low as 60 when in certain dungeons

[zealous rivet]

anyone got a nice arms m+ build

I have no idea what im doing

[void bay]

i mean wow is on a 20+ year old engine....its very CPU dependent and not very well multithreaded....i have a 9800x3d here but im just too lazy to build it

but 20FPS seems very low

what are your specs?

[fickle oar]

3080, 12600k, 32gig

[dawn notch]

anyone has experience or numbers for amorphus relic trinket?

[void bay]

check WA usage....ive profiled my addons in the past and WA and then details are resource hogs.....especially WAs if you have a lot

[fickle oar]

I've only got 1 WA for my cooldowns, CPU usage is also mega low honestly

not sure

[rapid bramble]

My specs are similar and it's shadows and render distance that tend to tank my fps at times

[void bay]

yeah they have "tacked" on loads of modern effects to the engine over time, and honestly, some of them tank FPS for not much difference

in visual quality

[dawn notch]

might also be combatlogging

if you log to an HDD

[void bay]

saying that, i just checked (havent looked at settings in ages)....i got my shadows on ultra high lmao

and view distance is 10

[grim kernel]

whos got the giga fast delves?

streetjuice sleuth in the new zone is pretty fast looking for others

[void bay]

is that the one with green goop and loads of layers of height?

I hate that

[hexed snow]

ST Raid, do we do Bladestorm or Rvager?

Assuming Nerubar Palace gear

[fossil thistle]

bladestorm

[hexed snow]

Thanks for quick response

[fossil thistle]

ravager good in execute phase or adds but in normal it won't matter much

heroic you can argue the added benefit of add damage

[hexed snow]

Ye doing normal right now

[fossil thistle]

I just played pure ST and was parsing mid 80s low 90s

[shadow ibex]

BS would be less add dam since you can cast stuff during ravager

[lean geode]

1. You only send demolish with 10 stacks in aoe, and only either during CS/WB or if the remaining cd on WB is longer than 7s
2. No

[lean geode]

Rav sims ~2% higher than bs for me personally

[grizzled estuary]

tyvm

[lean geode]

But yes most of the gain there is from execute range so if you're griefed in execute by mechanics or something then it's gg

That ava + CS + rav window during exe hits different

[spring vale]

I keep getting shields with my loot spec set to Arms am I doing something wrong

[sacred zodiac]

ye

are you doing old world questing or

[spring vale]

No just from a t8 bountiful delve

[lunar remnant]

Gladiator warr making a come back!

[sacred zodiac]

dunno if those are loot spec focused but they should be

[spring vale]

Like I don't mind as much cause I can always play Prot but im tryna gear Arms

[slow saddle]

Easist way to gear arms is tanking in keys

[spring vale]

🌕 🧑‍🚀 🔫 🧑‍🚀

always has been

[fossil quiver]

what the rotaton in exec phase with colossus? prio exec rather than MS or cleave.

[pearl jasper]

so we use thunderlord citrine now?

[slow saddle]

What build

[fossil quiver]

the m+ one

[shadow ibex]

cleave tooltip with 22 stacks of CD

[slow saddle]

Then exe is basicly slam

[fossil quiver]

oh just that?

[slow saddle]

If u have ep u try to stacks where u can

But exe eats rage in that build

[fossil quiver]

so prio in exec pase => Demolish with stack => MS => Cleave => Overpower => Exec ?

[slow saddle]

Why would u cleave in st?

[fossil quiver]

I mean in MT

Yeah in ST no cleave

[slow saddle]

Mt execute?

[dire hinge]

let's pause, yeah, what situation are we talking about right now?

[slow saddle]

M8 u just sending cleaves and ops

And how many targets?

[fossil quiver]

we don't execute in MT? Like 4-5?

[slow saddle]

I mean if u have nothing to push

I guess

[dire hinge]

you can for priority damage during sweeping strikes to consume your debuffs, but no not really

[shadow ibex]

execute is bait

[fossil quiver]

oh ok

so

[slow saddle]

Cleave >op

For dmg

[shadow ibex]

even in aoe with sweeping OP or MS probably have better DPE

[fossil quiver]

ST : Demolish with stack => MS => Overpower => Exec ?

[slow saddle]

For prio ms>op>cleave

[slow saddle]

Y

[shadow ibex]

i been prio MS more than OP in aoe cuz demo stacks for more CDR

ive gotten mroe casts per pull

[slow saddle]

True

Less dmg with cleaves then?

[haughty quail]

ravager still bug ?

[fossil quiver]

Also

in MT

Mortal Strike or Cleave prio? If I have both available

[dire hinge]

MS for more single target, Cleave for more multitarget.

you can select your priority target while Cleaving to slam them via FOB as well

[shadow ibex]

i been playing blademaster

[dim basalt]

Do you like blademasters more?

Im not sure whats better

[shadow ibex]

its more fun

but some weird shit can happen

ive had the avatar sweeping end when i cast my sweep

other times it extends

[slow saddle]

I play warlord crit on demo good

[dim basalt]

It definitely has its nice moments

[shadow ibex]

blademaster for dumb brain

just cleave MS cleave MS cleave ms

get demo back in 20 seconds

[slow saddle]

My brain mby forgot we dont get reck on wn anymore

Wb

[fossil quiver]

fury and arms are equals on m+?

[fossil thistle]

It begins

[dire hinge]

basically. Arms does a bit more damage, fury is tankier. Mostly preference tbh

[finite ginkgo]

We Can only craft weapon in Week 3 Right ?

[dense vector]

Yes

[fossil thistle]

Okay def need 650 ilvl

[dense vector]

Is that what it recommends

[fossil thistle]

uh

no? but T11s I think recommend 655 or higher, I can't remember

He spawns 6 adds instead of 3

[dense vector]

Bran heal or tanking?

[fossil thistle]

tank brann is garbage useless and you'd be dumb to use it

[heavy wren]

I tried tank bran once, he just held the final bosses of the delve in all the bad they put on the ground and died

[sturdy flicker]

last tier these were worth crafting week 1 and 2 what ilvl does this make out of pvp?

[fossil thistle]

You need 10 which is 1750 conq

you can prob get a champ/hero weapon by the time you craft that

[sturdy flicker]

well wasnt thinking for weapon so i think u need less for other items

[fossil thistle]

Yea, costs equal conquest

I'd probably bet around the 636-642 area

if it even goes that high

[finite ginkgo]

Do you guys Upgrade hc weapon Till you Can craft weapon?

[fossil thistle]

Just loot best in slots

[dire hinge]

we have a thread on this which might be helpful too
#1237307555961634826 message

[...] it is generally recommended that both Arms and Fury Warriors craft embellished weapons first, and swap to double Duskthread later on.

[fossil thistle]

Certain cases you can bypass, example being getting hero tier weapon and not being to craft a gilded 2h. If you are farming 8s or 11 delves, you can probably hold off 🤷 tl;dr wait till week 20 log in and reap the rewards of nobody needing loot, and have your guild carry you

[last inlet]

what kind of bug have i found xD (TLDR, open and close the talent tree while swapping and you get this)

[fossil thistle]

Those are just WIP (Arms is still beta testing)

[last inlet]

oh true

hidden within the code.

[shadow ibex]

void warrior

[fossil thistle]

12.0 new class identity : Alignment

Can't wait to be my lawful good Orc Slayer

[pliant vessel]

im ilvl 600 with my arms, does the game play become faster paced or nah?

[dense vector]

Yea with haste

[pliant vessel]

oh so it will get better? i feel it very very slow

[dense vector]

Feels better at like 20% haste and higher

[pliant vessel]

much of a difference or so-so?

[grizzled estuary]

lmao, cant wait to see what was the exploit

[hushed pine]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-flashbang-renza-gif-3499959455427823758

[void bay]

didnt that server also get crashed/go down? Lotta bans coming I guess

[grizzled estuary]

of course nasty shenanigans

[void bay]

idk why people do this because its just reverted and you eat a ban/suspension

[grizzled estuary]

for fun obviously, i'd defo assume they knew it all

[void bay]

not sure how its fun

[grizzled estuary]

fun to break the game

[void bay]

would be fun if you played by the same rules as liquid/echo and figured something out they didnt

else 🤷

[grizzled estuary]

i mean it must be fun for them otherwise they wouldnt, i can understand people get mad at this but you got to put yourself in the players shoes, they knew they were gonna get banned, they decided to yolo it and i respect that

[void bay]

Im not mad, im casual as hell. Its funny to me. Was just talking about the consequences not being worth it to me.

My account is like 20+ years old.

[grizzled estuary]

its in plain sight and not hidden whatsoever, like would you rather have them stall till RWF ends so they can sneak their CE this way? 🤔

[void bay]

No, i dont mind at all. Congratsts to them

[sacred zodiac]

why would you congratulate them lol

[grizzled estuary]

of course some players wouldnt be willing to as for achievements and stuff, but personnaly im playing since BFA and dont care about collectibles so i wouldnt mind at all restartin an account from scratch, all different perspectives

[void bay]

I was more curious that silvermoon seemed to go down....or at least people were asking about it on this server

So the technical aspect interests me....the actual kill and why they did it, not so much

[void bay]

I just meant congrats on achieving what you set out....not congrats on a world first kill

[grizzled estuary]

didnt you litteraly ask for the why?

[void bay]

both then i guess

maybe you get a QA job at blizzard, idk

the quild name is funny

[weak wave]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=225647/shining-arathor-insignia
is missing on bloodmallet

[unique bridge]

He doesn't care about the ban, it's a guy that finds bugs so blizzard can fix things each raid tier etc;
Also the guy that did this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5RumKxyK2c

[void bay]

I figured that, else he wouldnt have done it. And yes, I am familar with Rextroy antics in the past.

Wonder if it will be revealed how they did it

Maybe I can get cutting edge 🤣

[unique bridge]

I hope they don't leak fight spoilers, but how funny is it seeing the ilvl as well haha

[void bay]

The scaling in dungeons etc has annoyed me for a while, so maybe fix that Mr Blizzard

ive joined timewalking and wondered why the tank is doing 80% of the dps and its cos hes level 10 and pressing 1 button

Echo and Liquid are desperately messaging them for tips now 🤣

[vernal crypt]

i doubt that, it's an exploit that will 100% get removed

[void bay]

No, for the mechanics

They have seen the full fight

[vernal crypt]

don't see many mechanics when your dps is doing like 5 trillion

[void bay]

doesnt mean they just sat there pumping

but they probably did

[unique bridge]

I highly doubt they saw any mechanics

[fossil thistle]

Prob mythic testing that wasn't suppose to happen on live servers lmao

[agile igloo]

max in shambles

[void bay]

im watching his stream and he is in tears....they flew all these guys out and paid for this big production and its already over

[vernal crypt]

pure shambles

[visual fern]

[reef glade]

blow up

[vernal crypt]

not in a good way

[fresh spire]

[magic canopy]

exxplode

[zenith warren]

is chaotic corruption overtunned?

[visual fern]

Blow up

[zenith warren]

rookery 2nd boss

[fresh spire]

holy

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-explode-gif-5592816

[pliant vessel]

if i leave a bountiful delve without completing it, does it stop being bountiful afterwards?

[void bay]

no

[brittle cosmos]

is it possible to macro a target location trinket (Noggenfogger ultimate deluxe) at player/cursor ?

[pliant vessel]

great!

[sacred zodiac]

i wouldn't see why not

[hexed snow]

Just did full normal and Heroic

Wow I felt like shit

Timers were not on my side at all 😂

[brittle cosmos]

/use [@cursor] Noggenfogger Ultimate Deluxe - yeah this works

[visual fern]

I just keep blowing up

[sacred zodiac]

i love the name of the buff

[magic canopy]

suffer

[minor gust]

yo this Garms guy is illegal

stop getting things I want

[void bay]

I just report everyone with better gear than me....got half my server banned

[minor gust]

how it is

[visual fern]

[strange perch]

where can I find info on how much of a gain arms set is?

[minor gust]

sim

[strange perch]

nah i mean the set piece upgrade

[minor gust]

just sim it

goto gear compare put the set pieces in at = ilvl and sim

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/im-gonna-explode-explode-explosion-gif-4544136717827095514

[deft bluff]

New raid is fun

[tulip wasp]

Anyone knows what's the max track we can get this bad boy on?

[sour forge]

Is that the delve one

[tulip wasp]

Yes

[sour forge]

Probably hero with the map

[tulip wasp]

I see. Cause I think last season you couldn't get hero trinkets from delves, could you?

Cuz I know ppl were playing with binding knife on 626

Ah wait, that is hero track

Nvm

[sour forge]

Iirc the vault slots are key pieces but I could be wrong

[tulip wasp]

I'm tempted to dump crests into it

Since it's like 3rd best

[sour onyx]

Guys i got a delve trinket called ratfang toxing or something like that, dunno the exact translation, it sims a lot in raidbots but never heard of it, anyone knows if its oversimming or actually good?

[sour forge]

It’s decent afaik. Passive damage and main stat

It’ll probably sim better since our ilvl is relatively low

[dire hinge]

it's just better than what you currently have. It's currently simming at #25 for Arms Warrior for trinkets (patchwerk) and isn't that much better than other options:

[sour forge]

I won’t cstalyst until guaranteed 4p

[minor gust]

then cata

[storm lark]

Ty

[sour onyx]

Ok thanks

[rich ridge]

can we just recraft our season 1 weapon with 1 season 2 spark?

[muted fractal]

does anyone know is this maxroll guide up to date with cd timings for live servers

https://maxroll.gg/wow/class-guides/arms-warrior-raid-guide#liberation-of-undermine-header

[lean geode]

Don't think they've been updated but they should be accurate

I used them for my cd timings yesterday and they seemed correct

[muted fractal]

tyty

[manic pasture]

What is the order of getting tier?

like which do I prio

im assuming shoulders/pants then others

[magic drum]

Why would the order matter? Your factors are luck and replacing shittiest gear. Your sim will tell you what’s most “important”

[tardy igloo]

someone have new set bonus wa?

[magic canopy]

@visual fern post haste explosion withhin thineself

[muted fractal]

anyone have the spreadsheet with dps ranking sfor everyone w/ the % for tier bonuses

[regal socket]

looks great 😄

two faces

[void bay]

you have zuckerberg legs

[glossy tusk]

do we get new bountiful delves daily?

cuz i kinda fucked mine up byt not opening chest and it dissapeared

[void bay]

Yes. I think its 2 a day or so? And random? Not sure if the number was updated as there are more in general now.

[hexed snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506236337859461131/1346986936669044836/image.png?ex=67ca2ed7&is=67c8dd57&hm=719b81c78a1a04d62b1f39cb787346978d3ec0ecc8fa8721bda434cf9ff28240&

At least I got leg catalyst ready

😂😂

[tall flare]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-XWpGoG88/htmlview?gid=53309291

[glossy tusk]

awesome thanks you, im 16 dungeons deep with same ilvl as last week so im hoping for the delve items xd

[muted fractal]

tyty

[misty sandal]

Leg week for the win.

[lucid cypress]

is it worth to do 2p + 2p?

[lean geode]

Sim it

[glossy tusk]

man what is this random maintenance

[manic pasture]

is there like a guide on which bosses to go cleave or st?

[bold granite]

authority of the depths blows

[sage badge]

priory.. Arms owns

[lean geode]

Deswind back to warrior?

[tropic eagle]

we are pumping hard bois

yall ready for the nerfs day 3?

[sage badge]

Yeah, playing warrior this tier

If nerfs happen, I go back to shaman

[glossy tusk]

got me an elemental they are so fricking fun

[sage badge]

Yep. I played ele last tier.

[manic pasture]

what should i play on first boss in raid

st or cleave?

[nova marsh]

ST

Good luck trying to hit the trikes with cleaves

[tribal ember]

how is the slayer jugg m+ build?

compared to colossus

i'm trying to learn the ST rotation for raid but so i don't want to stray too far from it while it's fresh

[ruby sphinx]

Hello fello warriors, question with the Circlet. / Ring.

Is the recommend gem set up still what the ss shows for M+ with changes to skipper's?

[hexed ermine]

can we run 2p 2p or we need all 4p before replacing old set?

[bold granite]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kRry6bCXvd1T8pmB?fight=163&type=damage-done&translate=true&source=506

[tired sinew]

Based on this it’s still a dmg increase by 4% with 2p 2p

[bold granite]

look at his cyrce

[slow badger]

do we go 2p and 2p or wait until 4p?

[deft osprey]

2/2

[spring rune]

can you hit Flarendo and Torq with sweeping strikes when they are in the middle?

[smoky kayak]

huge?!

idk how I'm even gonna fit this into my gear rn lol

[bold granite]

the casino chip debuff on one armed bandit is finicky as fuck

[devout pewter]

of god damn course the first map I use gets me the most useless trinket ever: Papa's Prized Putter
Just my usual luck 😄

[charred brook]

do we even want that lol

like i want to say yes please give me the heroic one but

dont we just replace it next week 😦

[spring vale]

It could be Ratfang Toxin, actually worse

[smoky kayak]

yes and no, you'll replace it with a crafted weapon next week

unless you get a really well stated M Vault weapon maybe

but you can keep using it as a Fury OH until you get something better

[spring vale]

Is a heroic weapon a valid craft? it will be a while before I get my hands on enough crests for a mythic one

[smoky kayak]

yes, but it's also less competitive since you have a greater chance of looting a heroic+ weapon

[minor gust]

7s are really realy easy can farm mythic crests from that

[spring vale]

Got it ty 🫡

[spring rune]

would it not be efficient to just get the double lining at that point or is it really that much less dmg? The weapon seems to sim well

[smoky kayak]

the weapon is good, but it and the other cantrip weapons come from late enough bosses that their mythic versions are out of reach to most players

so the choice is between a H Slots/Punisher and slightly better embellishments

vs a slightly worse embellishment but much higher ilvl weapon

and as we see here #1237307555961634826 message higher ilevel wins

[spring rune]

Ah I guess I didnt look at the ivl dif between H Slots and Crafted wpn

[smoky kayak]

yeah, this is assuming you craft a M weapon

[spring rune]

Dang was trying to get excited with you, I got the weapon too. but guess Ill do the wpn craft

[bold granite]

wait we can craft a weapon next week?

thought itd be two weeks from now

[spring rune]

yeah yeah I think you're right

[smoky kayak]

well we don't actually know, but whenever you get your first craft, it should be a weapon

[sage badge]

Arms is so back.

[serene glacier]

ret is so back

[smoky kayak]

Looks so good when there's no Ret/WW in the group 🥹

[minor gust]

Colossus prot is the real dps

[sage badge]

I played with a ret earlier in a priory 8

Arms just has damage every pull, it's kinda nuts

[smoky kayak]

bad ret

[foggy cipher]

For M+ during sweeping strikes, is it still cleave on cooldown? Or do you want to stack ST abilites for Collateral Damage?

[smoky kayak]

needs to exploit more!

what spec ya playin Des?

[sage badge]

Colossus

[minor gust]

cleave gives you stacks of collateral because of FOB

[sage badge]

Does slayer work in keys too?

[minor gust]

try and find out

[sage badge]

[minor gust]

[bold granite]

heroic one armed bandit

fucks

[smoky kayak]

wait till you see Mug'zee

[bold granite]

no thanks

[smoky kayak]

The Battlelord build is good enough, but just feels like Colossus-lite IMO
Juggernaut build sucks though

[granite coral]

It feels so good to dunk on every other DPS on m+

Especially ret

[bold granite]

side note

BIS being a 2min

annoying

[granite coral]

The mace?

[bold granite]

ye

[granite coral]

Yeah agreed

Just make every trinket and weapon a proc pls. No more on use, ever

If it’s an on use make it really neat like Lego axe in DF

[sour forge]

People hated fyralath

[granite coral]

It did get me killed a lot, but it was high in style points

[smoky kayak]

just use Mark/Cards/whatever on 1.5m with Avatar, and then slap BiS on CD (or whenever there are adds, etc)

[bold granite]

fair

[gentle vessel]

sorry if this is pinned, but do we still use a weapon embellishment?

[vivid void]

are people just hyping up ret or is ret actually a thing for big keys now?

[sour forge]

I mean ret looks pretty strong

[valid fjord]

Whats the best 4 tier pieces we have to aim for?

[finite ginkgo]

Would you guys recommend to Upgrade a hc weapon until we Can craft max weapon ?

[viral gale]

Do we wait to go new 4pc until we can get all 4pcs or can we do 2 and 2? This also applies to fury.

[magic canopy]

@visual fern

blow

uppy

[terse plume]

can be simmed with raidbots

[bold granite]

hell yeah

[vivid ore]

so dont be stupid like me if you get the weapon "best in slots"

i had it in caster mod for the entire raid

instead of this

sigh

[smoky kayak]

#1237307555961634826

[smoky kayak]

I broke with 2H

for like 1.3%, normal might be more questionable

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-explode-gif-5592816

[charred brook]

bro how tf do you cleave the mugzee goons

its like such a weird sweet spot

[bold granite]

gooning

[spark kraken]

in m+ during sweeping strikes do we need to focus on single target abilities like MS and OP or do we need to continue hitting cleave on CD?

[lean geode]

f u

[fierce moon]

how we doing in M+?

[minor gust]

im doing well thank you for asking

[sour forge]

Cleave still triggers CD because of fob

[minor gust]

Meadery owns

[lean geode]

HOLY

[bold granite]

meadery does own

[spark kraken]

what is fob

[wintry arch]

which talent is it that sudden death now stacks to 2?

[tacit crystal]

does haste reduce ms cd

[teal fossil]

Yes

[tacit crystal]

why does ish have more casts bro

[lean flame]

At what ilvl is it worth breaking 4pc and 2pc?

[tacit crystal]

sim yourself

every character is different

[minor gust]

if you hover over an abillity and the cd is green means its hasted

[tacit crystal]

me when i play with bars hidden

[minor gust]

open your spell book

[tacit crystal]

no

[teal fossil]

Paying for pi

Clearly

Or he’s running ms resets and got luckier

[tacit crystal]

he is getting pi

why would they give pi to new player vs swordish

xd

[wintry arch]

Does one of the talents in slayer indicate that sd stacks now? I can’t seem to find it

[tacit crystal]

no it just stacks to 2 normally

[wintry arch]

Oh wow

[tacit crystal]

was changed a while ago

[wintry arch]

Gotcha thanks

[spring rune]

Can you cleave Dino and Monkey when they clash? Like with sweeping strikes

[lapis bolt]

in M+, do i still normal colossus aoe rotation even on like 2 mobs?

[tough steppe]

an actual good drop? wtf?

[slow saddle]

How hard is the new raid?

[quaint otter]

Rik reverb might be nuts for pug

Well

Anything can be xd

[charred brook]

yo gallywix is crazy lol

mugzee was really fun

but this boss has a lot going on

[slow saddle]

Just hc pov

[hexed saddle]

prob hardest raid to date

[charred brook]

we hit like 48% on gallywix and it feels like so much is going on

but its definitely a fun fight

[hexed saddle]

hc or normal

[charred brook]

hc

[hexed saddle]

poogers

[slow saddle]

Vs queen?

[charred brook]

gallywix

[slow saddle]

Gally vs queen last tiers end boss

[charred brook]

im confused on what youre asking

are you asking how it compares

[slow saddle]

Y

[charred brook]

Oh okay

[hexed saddle]

based on HC difficulty this tier is just harder

bosses are more fun

[charred brook]

I mean this tier seems harder so far

But its only 1st week also

I would say just slightly harder

[slow saddle]

We did loose 20% dmg amp

[hexed saddle]

im comparing w1 to w1

[slow saddle]

Bosses look cool ngl

[hexed saddle]

why would i compare HC nerubar during week 123214325423321

[slow saddle]

Coz zug?

[thick kelp]

hc one armed bandit vs coughing baby

[dry dune]

so crafting back and bracers?

[frail crystal]

In AOE/Keys are we holding warbreaker for demolish 10 stacks or just send it?

[dense vector]

unless you’d be waiting longer than like 5 seconds I’d send it

If it’s a short wait hold otherwise send

[boreal quartz]

More uses >> "good" uses

[dense vector]

Real

[quasi torrent]

tracking the stacks is kinda

waste of UI space

[unique aspen]

2 set is not worth over 4set s1 right?

[minor gust]

👀

[half junco]

i remember reading that 2p/2p is around 4% upgrade or something like that

you can check through the search function for the conversation about it

[unique aspen]

Thanks

[floral sierra]

arms s tier big d damage

[quasi torrent]

those who know. @sacred zodiac @swift crown

[astral yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/pades-tmnt-footclan-gif-5217482

[swift crown]

owo uwu >w<

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[quasi torrent]

not a knower

[magic canopy]

if ep = at leat 1 and leathal blows at east 2 then something?

i never used the uwu wa

[atomic mountain]

guys. last season i played arms warry and ended at 11-12+ was anoying to die and dont find groups. is this season better and what changes do we have ?

[drifting apex]

Hi guys, coming back after 3 month, just want to know, farm the 11.0.7 ring is a must have for the season 2 or can i skip it?

[vast surge]

it's BIS till you have a myth ilvl ring

[spring vale]

The ring only takes a couple hours to get and max out its not bad at all

[boreal quartz]

It's setting triggers as local values (lb/ep) and if trigger stacks change to 1/2 it changes the text to create the >oU

Or owO

Or whatever

[magic canopy]

that just looks like an angry tiki man face

[rapid magnet]

ppl still hate warriors and we still have no utility but we bring good dam for now (until rwf gets us nerfed)

[magic canopy]

explode within 50% uptime

[thick kelp]

gagaga

[atomic mountain]

not even couple hours. the ring is done in 30-60 min and your gems are done realy fast

[wanton sierra]

priori +6

[atomic mountain]

yes i know the hate XD is something different in rotation right now or do i press my same shit?

[cloud gyro]

i dont wanna be op guys i am rerolling havoc

[atomic mountain]

havoc was the class with a 16 part opener no?

what wep is worth to swap crafted season 1 wep for?

[visual fern]

https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/DeafLongHamPhilosoraptor-4mxvemP7SfzFuUAj
@reef glade W

[magic canopy]

coulda leaped

[minor gust]

"can we get a real warrior class designer"

[neon socket]

man both fury and arms so fun to play, I cant decide which to actually play with them needing different stats 😂

[reef glade]

peak

[minor gust]

get a different neck and rings and you are more than fine to swap between the two

[neon socket]

yeah thats a good way to look at it, suppose with crafted slots too i could just go haste/mastery too as they both aint too bad for both

[minor gust]

both dps warrior specs like all stats there is not a single stat we hate. at some point your gonna want shit like mastery on your arms or crit on your fury.

[neon socket]

yeah thats true

[minor gust]

dont trick yourself into thinking you cant play a spec because your secondaries arent perfect

[gritty yoke]

whats the minimum target to use cleave? 2?

[minor gust]

shit actually contributes very little to your dmg

2

[gritty yoke]

thanks

[neon socket]

yeah that is true, its been a while since ive had 2 specs of a same class ive actually enjoyed playing

[minor gust]

good im glad ive saved another person

[remote ledge]

After trying both I think imma go 100% fury even if it ends up less good. No more overthinking it doesn't even matter

This discord saved me too

God bless

[wanton sierra]

top 7

[robust elk]

So, about AM, how should I think in m+ with my cds

just send?

Hold rav for wb I think cc said

Is that correct?

[hexed snow]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[quaint otter]

Legs warrior

[latent moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1334433704579305502/Wow_fQxLTuFkGz.gif

[crude knot]

can we craft 2h this week or do we need 2 sparks ?

[quasi torrent]

2 sparks

[naive sage]

me irl

[cloud gyro]

yep its very hard for the average havoc player

[sharp wyvern]

Do we track our 4p buff or is it just a passive thing we don't care about ?

Also is there a WA if we do

[astral yarrow]

optimally you'd sort of care, realistically you just play around opportunist and it sorts itself out

and how is wago.io not the first place you go to for a weakaura

[silk spade]

https://wago.io/JgEYn1C82

[sharp wyvern]

Cause I was copying that I don't need it

But thanks regardless

Adding this to the other arms WAs

[quasi torrent]

does it play LETS TO GAMBLING on every OP above 7 stacks

[lunar remnant]

I’m thinking switching back to fury till I get full tier, only got 2pc atm and fury seems to be winning out on most fights THAT or im just bad at arms

[half junco]

if the fights end fast you dont get much execute so there fury might shine more

[slow saddle]

well loads of fights with add cleave thats free

fury can always do that

[thick kelp]

Nice floodgate

[dense vector]

I hate last boss of that dungeon

Too much blue and I’m kinda dumb

Was dodging lasers and stepped in a pool

Do you think that was my fault or tank positioning

[thick kelp]

Always your fault

[dense vector]

Was a 7 that shit was a bad time

[undone aurora]

When ur in like a smallish pack of mobs on m+ do you pop any cds at all? Or just hold onto them

Like on fury if it was a smallish pack id pop maybe odyns fury as it’s good dmg for not much cd can kinda use it freely

But on arms I always feel a bit hesitant as it feels like it’s a huge dmg drop of on a proper pull if I don’t have everything

[slow saddle]

tbh i just send

unless pack is almost dead

at least in pugs

like whenever i try to hold shit. i keep gettin frustrated with tank pulling small when i have cds

[undone aurora]

Do you just pop all cds as soon as they’re off cd or do you wait to sync?

[slow saddle]

pop

unless its close

[undone aurora]

Close being like 15 seconds?

Or less

[rotund mist]

I got lucky with a 2h hero track weapon from a delve, it sims higher than my current s1 2h that has the embellishment. It feels 'odd' running a weapon that does not have an embellishment on it......should i trust the sim?

[valid sage]

Yes never hold, always blast. If they live long enough for what ever CD to do its dmg, send it

[thick kelp]

Trust computer

[hexed snow]

@undone aurora only thing I hold is demolish if I know my rnak will pull more lobs

Otherwise send

[valid sage]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-larry-the-lobster-hip-thrust-thrusting-whoop-gif-4892328

All the lobs

[hexed snow]

Oh shir

Spellings!!!

[undone aurora]

Okay good to know, it was in my head that like comboing the cds would result in more dmg than just popping seperate

But I guess holding on that long would probs be an overall dps loss

[valid sage]

Just good fun😅

[hexed snow]

Hahah ik ik

Typing on phone is so hard for me

[hexed snow]

For me it's like 5 seconds to hold otherwise send

[undone aurora]

Great that’s very good to know

Sometimes I would wait up to 20 seconds lol

[tranquil sundial]

is arms the same this tier as last tier ?

as in gameplay

[sturdy hearth]

with 4P probably not

[random ibex]

every season i feel like i get this wrong... should i be upgrading items as i get them regardless of them being hero track since it saves me crests in the long run? or just do hero track stuff

[sturdy hearth]

Upgrade weapon/trinket imo

[wanton sierra]

is this good w?

i didnt find it on bloodmmallet

[quaint otter]

doesnt look good too few stats

[wanton sierra]

its 3k str or 3k haste

[quaint otter]

i see

static 639 trinkets give u 3600 str

[latent moss]

1.1k speed tho

hoooly

[finite ginkgo]

Sims real Bad

That Why i got it twice

[swift crown]

It's half a trinket

literally

Without stats

[viscid vapor]

which bosses do you guys feel will be for arms this tier

[wanton sierra]

ok ok how about this one

[finite ginkgo]

Good

[valid sage]

Everyboss is arms boss, sometimes you just hide the details window and let it rip😎

[atomic mountain]

is 630 GS okay to start 2+?

[valid sage]

Yes, a guildi tanked a 6 with 620 on his warr alt

(Rest of the group 639/640

[quaint cosmos]

do we go 2+2 or only 4 set?

[atomic mountain]

i tryed 2 with a 605 warlock and got stomped

[lunar remnant]

Cauldron and probably mug’zee

Bandit possibly too

I think arms will start shining more in raid* when players get 4 set

No gear fury > arms on most fights I’m guessing but what do I know

[crystal nymph]

I got this for my delve map fuckin sadge

[still arrow]

100% right

After 4 piece arms on cauldren bandit mugzee

Gallywix seems like fury fight based on amount of adds but mythic could be different

[oblique oar]

its all player dependant, i did a +3 with 640's, they did 900k total dps

[jagged goblet]

[severe badger]

How is arms feeling? Haven’t played since s1 dragon flight. I miss my warrior!

[slow saddle]

Feels good

[oblique oar]

5 big booms

[muted fractal]

is geargrinder's spare keys heroic really that good? says 35k dps over heroic transmitter

feels weird on a 2min cd though is it the flat str

[wanton sierra]

darkcleft 6

darkflame

[vagrant heron]

hey boss for st rotation in raid do i use bladestorm on cd? or just use it with Colossus smash always?

[dusty depot]

If they line up somewhat

[vagrant heron]

if not just use it?

[dusty depot]

Yeah, I don't know the exact numbers but if you're holding off on using for like 10 seconds it's probably better to just use it

[floral ledge]

priory 7

arms is good

[vagrant heron]

can i see your damage breakdown?

[dusty depot]

I'm so happy they changed the consecration to have a cast time in priory

[rare kite]

Frappe mortelle

[fresh spire]

Enchainement

[unborn canyon]

demolissage

[heavy scaffold]

is thunderlord's citrine oversimming? it adds 85k dps for me compared to the all stats gem but everyone in logs is using the all stats gem https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iVFZ3JsdgKsmmkNeXxnMt3

[dusty depot]

You simmed that one with all gems

The others with just one gem

[heavy scaffold]

oh so thats how it works? i thought it would not change the slots i didnt specify. ill try ty

ty i didnt know it worked that way

[naive breach]

FRAPPE MORTELLE

going french client

[oblique oar]

dealing huge degats

[teal fossil]

Bladestorm on cd

It doesn’t do damage on st anyways

[slow saddle]

Weel

Unhinged does

[zenith lodge]

anyone tried this one yet? ive tried simming it and its supposed to be a -58k dps loss with what I currently I have

the number seems sus to me

[wanton sierra]

i just got it, its not worth coz it doesnt have base stats or primary

[slow saddle]

Its super shit?

3k haste pr 3k str

[oblique oar]

just get this one from delves

[wanton sierra]

ye i mean, if it had 3k base str and cycle between more str or haste would be interesting

[wanton sierra]

idk if this is good, you lose secondaries to get primary, and its not an insane amount

oh nvm me

i understood it wrong

[oblique oar]

thats one of the top 5 trinkets

just hardest to get

and with good ilvl

[olive nest]

you can farm it at champ level in t8 right?

[modest grotto]

LOL, that sham is a guildmate of mine !

[boreal quartz]

👴 dogshit washed noob

the water dungeon idk what its called

[olive nest]

phil

farm priory

[thick kelp]

sub 3 million

[sacred zodiac]

noober

[thick kelp]

overall

[olive nest]

thats the big overall dungeon

[thick kelp]

in 2025

:idiot:

[boreal quartz]

i am 634

[sacred zodiac]

is the sweep 8 secs before popping cds thing real or fake

[tiny dock]

isn't that a starbucks drink?

[boreal quartz]

also big nooba

[zenith lodge]

its real, but very hard to pull off if you dont know exactly when the tank is gonna stop

[silk spade]

for CD during mbg or what

[sacred zodiac]

ye

[silk spade]

ah ye

it's good

[boreal quartz]

this big momma boss is crazy pad man

wtf

[olive nest]

it works yeah

biz smort

[quick patio]

How important is lining up colossus smash with bladestorm.
like how much can you hold one of the abilties in order for to use them together vs using them both on cooldown?