#arms

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slow saddle
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blodlust on pull with fury is prob better than on arms?

vague nova
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I work third shift NA and after I get out, this discord is 100x more active than it usually was during the day for me, this place is poppin

hollow plover
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similarly, arms is a decent pi target, fury is not

slow saddle
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im pretty certains arms pi value is in execute part

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not on pull part

hollow plover
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i mean both

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type shii

vague nova
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Is there a world where we don’t get PI anywhere but in execute phase?

hollow plover
rare kite
candid pecan
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I only got PI when execute phase was important. (Raszageth P3, Fyrakk P3, thats about it ratge)

slow saddle
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but anyways its absurd that ravager is even possibly equal to bladestorm in a spec that has bladestorm as focus

sacred zodiac
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you probably dont get pi in execute phase either

brittle fiber
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rip normal multi target slayer arms simming better than ravager slarms for me

hollow plover
strange perch
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buff bladestorm

candid pecan
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yes plz

slow saddle
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prob just make bladestorm invert scaling

hollow plover
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someone mentioned bladestorm buff into aura nerf to make slayer bs better again

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as a possibility

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and that sounds like something blizz would do

rare kite
hollow plover
rare kite
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Trutru

slow saddle
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aura nerf would fuck collosus as well though

hollow plover
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anywhos

slow saddle
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but st bad

hollow plover
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no

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st also good

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colossus is just good dam rn

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regardless, americans when is your maintenance over?

slow saddle
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nah st is decent

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but ye good // decent who cares

hollow plover
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in m+ colo will do a lot of st

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compared to others in aoe spec

untold pewter
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Guys quick colossus aoe question if I may
Are we holding Ravager for CS or for Avatar or just sending?

coarse hedge
hollow plover
hollow plover
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but im not 100% sure off the top of my head

coarse hedge
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Hey I haven't seen anything on blood mallet does anyone have Sims for aoe trinkets

slow saddle
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I guess an easy fix is making stormbolt slap on targets that cant stun 😄

thick kelp
untold pewter
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Hm alright, thanks thanks

untold pewter
candid pecan
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or they buff bladestorm dmg and nerf execute again ratge

hollow plover
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you're afk for 6 seconds

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dealing mediocre damage

candid pecan
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You're right

sacred zodiac
candid pecan
hollow plover
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yo simmers, slayer ravager build was just switching bs to rav, nothing else changed right?

candid pecan
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yes

glossy tusk
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Is there a spell reflect WA updated for season 2 or not yet?

glossy dust
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There's no way to tell what talents ppl are gonna be using for specific bosses right?

light saddle
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I see specific builds mentioned for specific bosses on #dps-faq arms raid builds

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If that's what you're looking for

glossy dust
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Oh thank you, thats exactly what I was looking for

hollow plover
lusty burrow
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running this is pretty fun ngl

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candid pecan
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yeah okayge

gusty nymph
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with rav, u sent it during CS windows or before?

dim basalt
remote ledge
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Looking at dps faq, it says the choice between arms and fury is mostly about boss or add focus damage profile. Let's say I must focus on boss damage with my raid comp.
On bosses archi recommends MT slayer build, should I still go Mt build or ST build since I wanna focus boss damage?
I hope you get what I mean

smoky kayak
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Depends on what you’re trying to accomplish, keep in mind that the only real diff between a ST and MT raid build is whether you take Cleave

latent arrow
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If its add boss just play fury?

smoky kayak
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You have TR/BS either way, so you can dump those into adds if need be, without actually dedicate time/GCDs to try to cleave them (in a lot of cases, raid adds don’t live beyond initial burst anyway, though it’s somewhat more likely they will in a new tier)

junior quail
remote ledge
remote ledge
vapid pine
smoky kayak
remote ledge
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Other way around might be less troll true

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🙏

smoky kayak
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I really wouldn’t worry too much though, like I said, the diff between a ST and MT raid build is pretty low impact and it shouldn’t take long to figure out how quickly adds are dying once servers go live and people start killing bosses

remote ledge
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What's more, I'm EU so I guess we'll know by the time I actually face those bosses

open ingot
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For M+ is it slayer or colossus?

hollow scarab
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Colossus

open ingot
lunar remnant
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Do we go arms or fury for vexie though, crit says fury. But I can see arms slayer being strong too

shadow ibex
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Let's all find out later when the server is up

wintry arch
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I’m not raiding till tomorrow I want to thank everyone gathering the data tonight

lunar remnant
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Haha that’s clutch

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I’m starting normal so I think a lot of the talents suggested don’t matter bc adds are gonna fall over instantly

icy mulch
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Little bit of the Synth Riders happening in VC

wintry arch
split cairn
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Why do I get rage starved alot with arms?

olive nest
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You might be missing auto attacks and not realizing it?

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You can over spend rage but you have to actively try to do it

olive nest
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This is the way

arctic mesa
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Do you guys plan to run two different sets of gear to switch between arms and fury? From everything I’ve read, both have different prio’s. Coming over from survival hunter, I haven’t landed on a certain spec yet but I’m nervous about not picking up the arms rotation.

eager sigil
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i will

lunar remnant
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Yeah I’m rolling in fury and arms shit

eager sigil
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but you dont have to

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both specs should be good for all bosses

dim basalt
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I cba learning Fury

olive nest
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I’m planning to prio arms gear and loot an extra heroic 2h from keys to swap fury if team needs it

smoky kayak
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only bosses I would seriously say is a "play Arms not Fury" right now is Mug'zee and maybe Sprocket (not 100% sure on bandit)

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and that's on mythic, mind you - which is going to be out of reach of most people for several weeks, by which point there will probably have been new tuning anyway

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for the vast majority of people looking at heroic and the first few mythic bosses, Fury might even be the better choice, or is at the very least competitive - its st is also tuned pretty decently in general, so there's certainly no throw from running Fury the whole way

dim basalt
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Isnt Fury generally the better choice if people are not used to Arms and both are tuned equally

smoky kayak
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well they're not tuned equally, there's no such thing as equal

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but the best choice is virtually always to play what you enjoy and are comfortable with over something you're not

dim basalt
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Im just talking about raw numbers, not any strengths or anything

smoky kayak
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raw numbers are never equal

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they're never going to be equal

dim basalt
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But youre right anyway

charred quest
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anyone know if there is a quest that requires you to kill gallywix for heroic crafting crest? or is it simply to complete campaign this time?

smoky kayak
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but I'm going to put this very bluntly - if you're not involved in the Race to World First, you're overthinking this
play what you enjoy, stop worrying about what the hypothetical person looking over your shoulder is going to think, and just play the fucking video game

dim basalt
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Arms always has the coolness factor because its not a popular spec /dab

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Tho Im not sure if our spec is gonna stay unpopular

smoky kayak
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I know everyone likes to think that they need to be optimizing to the nth degree, or that their personal choice is going to be the sole deciding factor between success or failure, but being completely honest, anyone who is currently sitting here agonizing over which spec they should play is not someone who is in a position where it matters in the slightest

lunar remnant
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Haha can attest I’m thinking way too much into it, plus we will have logs to go off of next week

dim basalt
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The logs in week 1 are gonna tell us nothing though

smoky kayak
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you'll have logs to go off of within the first 2 hours of servers coming up

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but again, what those players are doing, and what you're doing, are not the same thing

dim basalt
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Logs will look very different going into week 2 and again into week 3

smoky kayak
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eh, only if blizz makes some kinda big changes

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but the point is that anyone who hasn't already done enough research to have decided what they're going to play isn't doing anything this week where it matters, so just pick something and play it

dim basalt
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Some specs are much better off with the coming tier set

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Where as some like S1 more and are not gonna scale as much

smoky kayak
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warriors aren't, so it's a moot point

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and none of these are irrevocable choices either, you can always play something today and something else tomorrow

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but please, for everyone's sake, stop asking other people to make decisions for you - just make a decision and play something; if you then decide you don't like it... make a different decision. It really is that easy

teal fossil
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You get tuned around it

dim basalt
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

teal fossil
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If your tier is bad then your base class can be pretty strong

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And vice versa

dim basalt
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Fair point

smoky kayak
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some exceptions, but yeah - they're tuning more around the whole picture and with tier sets so quick to acquire now it's a very short term consideration

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its annoying that some specs get like 15% and others get 5% from their tier, but it really doesn't make a difference after the first week

dim basalt
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Is any NA gamer here gonna stream later?

teal fossil
dim basalt
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At least personally I dont care how strong a tier bonus is, as long as its fun

frank frost
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i don't think every tier set has to be class/rotation changing

teal fossil
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Like how bm was in the absolute shitter before the recently adjustments without tier

dim basalt
teal fossil
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If it’s too small then it’s un noticeable

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Like now we prio OP a LITTLE more

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It’s a rotational change

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But it’s not really a big change

dim basalt
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Damn using the word rotational was a bad choice

smoky kayak
teal fossil
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You could probably ignore it

frank frost
dim basalt
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Despite barely changing our rotation our tier is still fun due the haste bonus tho

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Meaning you can feel a change to some degree

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Could it have been better? Sure, but its not that bad

smoky kayak
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I do think it's a good way of shaking up gameplay when it's needed, but it's not always needed either. For example, Warriors already got baseline changes shaking up gameplay so they don't really need particularly transformative tier sets at the same time as well

dim basalt
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Agree

frank frost
dim basalt
frank frost
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yes!

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i was gladge

dim basalt
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Ah so it is you

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How come you also left Survival? sadgers

smoky kayak
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ironically they actually changed the Arms tier during PTR to make it less transformative this Season, since previously it had a different effect that had major impact on our talent choices and gameplay

strange linden
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Should I go arms this season if I want big crits and more damage than fury? 😮

dim basalt
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I dont even remember the old tier bonus

smoky kayak
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stacked up Overpower recharge rate

dim basalt
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Oh right

frank frost
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i think survival is in a great spot right now, certainly better then previous expansions but i just wanted to pick up my warrior again after having lots of fun with it during DF season 1

smoky kayak
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which also meant skipping Deft Experience

smoky kayak
dim basalt
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Sometimes I miss my Survival though

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TWW made it so fun

olive nest
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Warrior owns!

dim basalt
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It does, tho it feels lacking compared to SV :p

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But comparing it to a spec that just got reworked isnt fair

smoky kayak
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but yeah, tier sets are one of those things that can be a good instrument for change, even though they don't always have to be. Sometimes it's not even that deliberate though, it's just a happy coincidence

strange linden
frank frost
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you should go arms if you enjoy arms

dim basalt
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Big crits yes, more damage not necessarily

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Play both and find out whats more fun to you

teal fossil
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You will certainly get bigger numbers per button press on arms

frank frost
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it does feel good hitting a 4m Mortal Strike

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has that oomf to it

dim basalt
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4M? keks

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Make it 10+

remote ledge
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Archi is there a way for you to pin the arms VS fury analysis for non pushers? It actually helped me unironically and could help many other to overthink way less

frank frost
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I AM A GEARLET

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LEAVE ME ALONE

dim basalt
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😦

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Dont yell in here

strange linden
frank frost
dim basalt
strange linden
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Ur yelling and I’m scared 😔

teal fossil
frank frost
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i'm just roleplaying as a warrior okay

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shouting is part of it

rare kite
dim basalt
frank frost
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pls don't bully

dim basalt
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Now imagine if Blizz didnt remove the crests already so you could craft 636 gear

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10/10 move

frank frost
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i've been gone from the game for a couple months and i completely forgot how crafting works again

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am i still having to DM random people only to get scammed for all my gold for a single craft?

dim basalt
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How much are they asking for

remote ledge
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Yes but now you don't have to wait for an enchanter to enchant your crest

frank frost
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i remember in season 1 i spent like 50k on my weapon craft xdd

shadow ibex
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It's the same as DF only no inspire roll I think

dim basalt
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But ye its a nice QoL change

remote ledge
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Unnecessary two steps process that got removed 👍

frank frost
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they tried making crafting a community thing and revamp it but i personally think that it wasn't a success

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the whole crafting order system and having all this trade spam can't be what they imagined it would be

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i hope they revisit it for the next expansion and make it way easier in a bunch of ways

lofty crow
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is it important to track colossal might for m+ or just send demolish with what youve got

dim basalt
shadow ibex
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More often than not you will be at max stacks when it's ready anyway

teal fossil
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It’s only the first one that’s sketch

shadow ibex
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It's hard to get demo ready again and not have 10 stacks unless you are afk after a pack

lofty crow
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for the sake of my understanding lets say we did go afk after a pack idk pee break

dim basalt
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Or your tank is slow as fuck

lofty crow
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do i send it

dim basalt
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Nah, ramping to 10 stacks takes no time

lofty crow
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got it, ty

grizzled estuary
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hey guys, is there any way to track resp. battlelord and tactician procs pls? wanna set up a WA sound altert based on those

remote ledge
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There is an opportunist proc weakaura on madox arms guide, add a sound on show
Whereas battlelord procs, might aswell simply make a ms weakaura that activates when MS is off cd. Add a sound on show

grizzled estuary
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thanks mate

compact geyser
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i think its time to swap from human. is it velf thats the best simmed race now ?

remote ledge
naive sage
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I swear I had the best laugh in like 2-3 weeks

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last inlet
dim basalt
smoky kayak
shadow ibex
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Ready for 67 daily posts of when do I sweeping

last inlet
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so i can run dusk or thread this season? just sim to find out which 1?

shadow ibex
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Why is it using roar after avatar medge

dim basalt
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Just sim yes

last inlet
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kk

teal fossil
silk spade
dim basalt
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What did S2 df do

teal fossil
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Bloodcraze

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Essentially

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But on rampage instead of rb

shadow ibex
teal fossil
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S2 df fury

shadow ibex
teal fossil
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S2 df arms was ass

wooden lava
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whoa cut that shit out

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ToM was the goat

silk spade
shadow ibex
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S2 df was almost as bad as CN

smoky kayak
teal fossil
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Yea

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sl s3 fury wasn’t too bad

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With RA

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Because your icons changed once in a while

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And that felt kinda cool

grizzled estuary
weak rain
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can they already buff tom ffs

rare kite
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how about removing ToM so no one can ask about it anymore

frank frost
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who is tom and why does he need to work out to get buff?

compact geyser
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Make TOM Great Again!!

weak rain
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Tom is the most fun talent to play around

shadow ibex
rare kite
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except you don't even play around it

wooden lava
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well u can't

rare kite
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you just play... it flattens damage profile even more

wooden lava
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because we're tied to fucking non-spenders on both hero talents

shadow ibex
wooden lava
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IP no longer counts, WW no longer has high cost

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it's all fucked

shadow ibex
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It's not spikey right now when we have 50% uptime on cs and iftk

rare kite
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you can if you want to. it's just not optimal, if you want you can forego overpower for slams when on higher rage

wooden lava
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yeah I can also walk into traffic

weak rain
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they could make so at least SD procs also work as if you spent 40 rage

wooden lava
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we've been asking for that for ages

shadow ibex
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If this were any other class they would

rare kite
wooden lava
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blizz in all their wisdom instead decided to butcher our capstones

shadow ibex
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We have like 2012 design docs

weak rain
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I rmember fun df play where I had /cancelaura Battlelord in my MS macro so I spend 30 rage and not 20

wooden lava
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and lock us into channeled, non-spender abilities on both hero talents

jade cargo
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@smoky kayak hey - how u doing lately

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@crimson charm also Hey DO

crimson charm
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👋

fresh spire
rare kite
jade cargo
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good - u didnt forget Papa Arms yet

smoky kayak
alpine cove
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Hi, my guild needs a warrior in raid and it's my turn. Can anyone recommend a video guide?

stuck ruin
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Sounds like arms folks are unhappy?

fresh spire
dense vector
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Why would we be unhappy

stuck ruin
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My guild needs me to play warrior too.. what’s better in raid?

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Fury or arms

dense vector
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Depends on fight

stuck ruin
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Werd

rare kite
stuck ruin
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That’s kinda what I was picking up on

dense vector
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Arms design hasn’t been the best for like 3 xpacs figure yall would be used to it by now

lean geode
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I mostly play fury though

rare kite
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the good thing this expansion tho is they nerfed martial prowess and gave ms some power

dense vector
rare kite
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no it's 3

junior lava
dense vector
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You can still proc that one under the dead ones

lean geode
wooden lava
lean geode
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For both that one and the cleave one, you can drop a point in either bloodborne or bloodsurge

lean geode
muted fractal
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RA is reck abandon arms or fury

lean geode
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Fury

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Arms doesn't have reckless abandon

rare kite
muted fractal
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oh lolll

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arey ou using OF?

lean geode
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But the "AM" there are referring to AM fury

rare kite
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if you want you can count one of those as half. so 2.5 talents

wooden lava
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just like you would pre-send avatar at 10

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you pre-send SS at 11

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it lasts for the duration of the adds and comes back up for the next set

lean geode
remote ledge
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What point would you take off in order to take impss?

lean geode
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Bloodborne or bloodsurge

rare kite
dense vector
# rare kite

Can’t you proc it with cleave from one of the other talents

lean geode
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I personally play with bloodsurge baseline instead of bloodborne because the damage is almost identical and bloodsurge feels better imo, but bloodborne is technically better in both st and aoe

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A whopping 1k dps better

wooden lava
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they're next to boss

remote ledge
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Thanks, apart from cauldron, can I avatar on pull for every other boss?

lean geode
rare kite
lean geode
thick kelp
wooden lava
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0:22 on specific add timing spawn

somber minnow
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Adds on bandit have a fixed position and arent movable right?

thick kelp
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y

dense vector
remote ledge
lean geode
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Is it not important to cleave down the bombs Walhe?

rare kite
lean geode
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The vid said the bombs couldn't be CCd so I figured cleave would be good to nuke them down, and regular SS would carry the attendant adds

lament ridge
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Is the ravager slayer build an actual thing and worth using?

dense vector
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Ya sims 10k higher than bs for me

lean geode
rare kite
lament ridge
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That’s so cursed.

lean geode
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You're basically trading damage above 35% for damage below 35%

tacit crystal
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nah its worth Arms

lean geode
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Rav slayer sims 7% worse for me though

dense vector
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It’s cause our basic spells do more damage than bs cause bs sucks

tacit crystal
dense vector
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Use the custom one from tmy sim

lean geode
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Oh I didn't change it hold up

tacit crystal
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do from:frozenbozo and links

lament ridge
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What changes in the custom apl compared to normal?

dense vector
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Rotation

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And stuff like that

lean geode
wooden lava
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link it

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i wanna see the APL

tacit crystal
lean geode
wooden lava
tacit crystal
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scroll

dense vector
wooden lava
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I looked, it's literally just nonstop fucking gifs and memes

tacit crystal
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did you search in arms

wooden lava
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Ope wait, I found it

lean geode
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I literally linked you the APL

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All that 5 seconds of hard work

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Wasted

dense vector
wooden lava
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I wanted to see talents

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@dense vector not at all, sorry to get u excited bud

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I don't get why Tmy's standard slayer sims were showing up so poorly

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mine is simming for like 1.88m

lean geode
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@thick kelp thoughts on impSS ravager for bandit/mugzee?

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Compared to impSS BS

thick kelp
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Better than impss bs

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u actually get to do damage to the adds when they r up

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instead of spinning

tacit crystal
thick kelp
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gm

hollow plover
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does anyone actually do this

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lean geode
thick kelp
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i love it here man

lean geode
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It's cancelaura battlelord all over again

wooden lava
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Did they fix slayer interaction w/ Ravager

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or are the middle talents broken?

lean geode
lean geode
wooden lava
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and ravager still does more damage?

lean geode
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Rav slayer effectively ignores 4/10 of its hero talents 🙂

wooden lava
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wtffffffffff

lean geode
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You also don't get the cdr from ImmDem

tacit crystal
lean geode
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Or the overwhelmed stacks from the top node

thick kelp
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Copped 50€ worth of meds ready for tier

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hollow plover
fresh spire
tacit crystal
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fohsy

hollow plover
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o shit nice

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thick kelp
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g2g dot com

wooden lava
lean geode
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Mans just posting his RMT on skyhold keks

hollow plover
lean geode
thick kelp
hollow plover
thick kelp
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thats what thry all say

lean geode
# hollow plover no?

I'm just messing with you but on god if you think boost organizers aren't RMTing idk what to telly ou

hollow plover
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its worth it for them since they live in countries where thats actual good money

lean geode
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I need @silk spade to get me in those boost runs man I'm broke af

hollow plover
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im german so I'd be getting pennies

wooden lava
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Doesn't ravager's unhinged hits not take effect for like 1.5 GCDs

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idk why this custom APL puts it with avatar

lean geode
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That's a weird way to spell avatar

visual fern
wooden lava
visual fern
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Wallife from wish juicing or what

silk spade
lean geode
tacit crystal
lean geode
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A carrier

wooden lava
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Wouldn't it be better if u go Rend > Roar > Ravager > Avatar + CS

lean geode
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Not a carried

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I'm not buying

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I'm blasting

visual fern
naive breach
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buff arms okayge

wooden lava
silk spade
thick kelp
wooden lava
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caffeine pills?

lean geode
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$50 of caffeine pills is crazy work

visual fern
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Ight c u there

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Who wants to tell him I'm already on NA

silk spade
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you can hit yeah

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ill consider the boost too

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i forgot you were NA ngl

tacit crystal
severe haven
hollow plover
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btw do we have rwf warrior povs? or do the warriors not stream their pov?

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anyone know?

lean geode
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Revvez doesn't always stream tho

wooden lava
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all those guys are pointless to watch til they step foot in mythic

lean geode
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Also pretty decent chance there are more warriors as well

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Sarri will probably stream

wooden lava
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ideally we get to watch the other guys from NA HoF guilds

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ID, Nurfed, PC, etc.

lean geode
visual fern
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Esp week 1

lean geode
hollow plover
visual fern
lean geode
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Idk who ID's warriors are these days tbh

wooden lava
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Caro

lean geode
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Caro doesn't stream afaik

visual fern
wooden lava
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RIP then, gonna have to watch gromnak

visual fern
wooden lava
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MEAT TIME

lean geode
silk spade
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no gajeel stream
why live

wooden lava
#

since Boomkin's strong this tier, do u think we're gonna get another Gromnak comment about boomkins

dim basalt
#

Is Gromnak really as bad as people say

lean geode
#

Gromnak clips are goated but any time I watch his stream I want to alt+f4 irl

visual fern
wooden lava
vast drift
#

@lean geode peepoBlush

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Wait

wooden lava
#

me when boomkins snipe all the damage this tier

grizzled estuary
#

huuu i was simming higher as fury in ST, so i assume it's not the case with the APL fix and we should play arm on ST?

vast drift
#

I meant to @visual fern

wooden lava
lean geode
#

I mean shit I'll take a peepoBlush

wooden lava
#

unless u got a homeboy to tank

dim basalt
#

Both good, play whichever spec you want to play

hollow plover
lean geode
visual fern
visual fern
grizzled estuary
#

thanks guys, i guess the mouthbreather AM fury is the way then

lean geode
#

The gromnak SOFO clips were goated I think

visual fern
dim basalt
#

But I dont trust anything blindly

lean geode
#

I mean

visual fern
lean geode
#

You don't get kicked from 5 guilds a tier for no reason

dim basalt
#

Damn lol

wooden lava
visual fern
#

Show me the lie

wooden lava
#

Did Gromank crash out extra this tier?

#

I saw him losing his mind on queen prog

lean geode
silk spade
wooden lava
#

Real shit

olive nest
#

That guy is just the best man

#

Peak warrior energy

wooden lava
#

Revvez is the God-Emperor of Warriors

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Gromnak is a living Saint

smoky kayak
lament ridge
#

Trying to understand this from the custom APL for ravager slayer. Does this mean you send ravager whenever csmash is on CD? Sorry, not super familiar with some of the APL language.

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thick kelp
#

no it says

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to use ravager

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if the cooldown of your colossus smash is a gcd

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aka 1s

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so you ravager -> cs

lament ridge
#

Ohhh. So ravager -> CS.

thick kelp
#

yes

lament ridge
#

So you always line up ravager with CS then? That means you'd hold ravager for csmash?

thick kelp
#

yes

lament ridge
#

Dope. Thanks chief.

remote ledge
#

Same as colo in m+ 👍

regal wharf
#

when servers up

trim lintel
#

soon™️

silk spade
#

supposedly

last inlet
remote ledge
last inlet
real saddle
#

what raid and dungeons WA should I get ?

lean geode
#

Causese

shadow ibex
#

Arms day

silk spade
#

Arms day

thick kelp
shadow ibex
#

Actually pull day

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Still counts

olive nest
#

Got legs out of the way yesterday so we do arms today

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💪

spring vale
#

I still need to wait some hours because i play on EU sadge

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I wanna start doing my delves alreadyyy

pale cave
lean geode
lone imp
shadow ibex
#

We def doing rows td

silk spade
lone imp
#

Hard to tell. I got two engines for race car in machine shop I'm waiting to be done, and I'm getting stir crazy so I'm about to buy a bass boat lol but maybeeee

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I been slowly playing a little bit lately

olive nest
sharp rivet
#

is it lvl 8 bountiful delves you need to do to get the highest level of gear?

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or can you do non bountiful too?

velvet crater
#

I just spanked rank2 Zekvir in 626 with a dps Bran companion. Arms feels fucking sick, I love that I'm returning to main warr this season ❤️

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Execute Dam is juicy af

thick hamlet
visual fern
silk spade
#

im gonna be pressing mortal strike today

visual fern
#

Got my frappe mortelle

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winged creek
silk spade
velvet crater
#

my plan to go from 626 to 640+ until raid tomorrow evening: Log in at 8am, get 4 keys from weekly chests, do 4 bountiful delves, then join our premade plate stack grp, do 4x m0, then do every key in at least +7 until 8pm.

Sounds like a plan or you guys have some other methods I'm unaware of? 😄

misty sandal
thick hamlet
agile crown
#

do we have to do campaign for anything?

gentle frigate
#

Ok guys so explain to me why I would want to play arms over Fury?

vital rock
minor gust
#

Happy beta test day for my NA brothers

last inlet
lean geode
gentle frigate
#

Ok so there isnt really a super big reason to change for the raid today

untold trench
# gentle frigate Ok guys so explain to me why I would want to play arms over Fury?

If you hate your life and dont want the fun of playing Fury Warrior...

It is a question of what you enjoy, really. There is some DPS diff between Fury/Arms based on what combat scenario we are talking - arms might be ahead on some.

Do you prefer the more static 1,2,3 of arms, with building up to bigger hits. Or Fury's more fluid and reactive rotation, that feels faster and more furious.

In the end it is all about what you prefer and want out of your gametime.

visual fern
rancid solstice
#

Maybe when you get 4set your arms dmg will be noticeably higher

rare kite
gentle frigate
#

Huh ok I mean all that makes sense. I am kinda newish to Warrior. I played it in BFA so about 900 years ago lol

velvet crater
gentle frigate
#

Just trying to figure out what would be best for the raid toniught

visual fern
#

Fury playstyle changed a bit, arms is basically same

rare kite
minor gust
sharp rivet
spring vale
rotund mist
#

battlenet down in eu as well

last inlet
tacit crystal
#

me when you can launch the exe

spring vale
#

yeah just tried and launching the exe and logging in inside the actual client does work right off the rip

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kinda sucks when it tells you you need to patch though, no avoiding the battle.net launcher in that case

last inlet
dire hinge
#

gm nerds

last inlet
#

morning

spring vale
#

good morn

last inlet
#

well afternoon for me xD

tacit crystal
vital rock
tacit crystal
#

gm hrothmar

dire hinge
#

we get to pump today gladge

silk spade
visual fern
dire hinge
visual fern
#

Someone edit this for arms ty

last inlet
minor gust
#

always has been

last inlet
#

haven't tried it yet.

spring vale
#

its not that its good, its that arms bladestorm is doodoo

last inlet
#

well yeah

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i knew that xD

#

guess i gotta try it.

#

when servers come up

spring vale
#

its nice being able to press buttons with ravager going

last inlet
#

thats why i love colo

spring vale
#

but bladestorm is nice if you need to itch your nose or something

last inlet
#

sadly that happens often for me 😦

silk spade
ocean creek
#

Is the prio still the same basically?

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For rav over bs

tacit crystal
shadow ibex
#

Ravager die

last inlet
misty sandal
#

I'm honestly tempted to try slayer ravager for raid tonight 🤔

silk spade
olive nest
#

I mean you should

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It’s better

misty sandal
#

I'm pretty sure I saw that it was only marginally better?

last inlet
#

from what im reading its sub 1% worse, but makes up for it in execute? or did i read the disclaimer in the faq wrong?

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which im all for 😄

olive nest
#

I bet Blizz will buff the two red(inactive) slayer talents when ravager is selected

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To force Bladestorm again

last inlet
#

that would be amazing

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oh

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again read wrong

#

Dx

olive nest
#

Rav is about 3% ahead of bs in execute phase

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So you play rav

fast wharf
#

they should just make those talents affect ravager too at this point

visual fern
#

Which honestly I'm personally ok with

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Bs fury cd, rav arms cd

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Good enough for me

muted fractal
#

is anyone elsej ust gonna play arms every fight or just me loll

olive nest
#

I’m going to in normal and heroic

#

Mythic depends what gear I have available and or team comp

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Most likely an arms one trick season though

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I like to play arms whenever I can since it’s the coolest

lean geode
bold granite
#

always arms

half junco
#

Bladestorm is dogshit

#

embrace Ravager

#

close your eyes and pretend you are an Arms warrior in Tomb of Sargeras

gaunt owl
#

Make Bladestorm Great Again

olive nest
#

Real

gaunt owl
#

its been far too long that Arms Bladestorm was lackluster compared to Fury

olive nest
#

I don’t care for the feel of ravager personally

#

Bladestorm enjoyer

viscid nest
#

I like seeing my funny little weapon spinning on its own minding its own business

#

Just a silly little guy

rapid bramble
#

I'd love it if Ravager got the same targeted vs. cast on a target quality of life talent choice that some caster AoE spells do now

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Mostly because I'm just bad at losing my cursor on screen with so much shit going on

naive sage
#

At what time does s2 begin in NA?

#

Euro boy here

velvet crater
#

Fuck, it just feels bad to lose 2x Hero talents because Rav overperforms

stone saffron
gleaming zinc
#

Any recommendations for a fury main swapping to Arms? Struggling to do same through put

visual fern
gaunt owl
gleaming zinc
#

Too many buttons

visual fern
gaunt owl
#

Bladestorm suffer from its long channel and you cant do anything else til its joever

velvet crater
#

I would honestly prefer to play Colossus if we talk about Rav over BS

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Purely because I dont feel shit over the hero talents 😄

lean geode
naive sage
charred brook
#

Season 2 begins when I get off work sorry gang

#

I’ll let y’all know when I’m otw home so I can boot the servers up

visual fern
#

5 straight tiers of fury main for prog

#

Arms tier finally...

naive sage
#

I need data to acknowledge how fucked up my choice of maining enha will be

visual fern
minor gust
#

more nerfs incoming garms dont get your hopes up

velvet crater
charred brook
#

Buddy I hate to say it but like 4/5 of the bosses look fury

velvet crater
#

DPS warr is finally in a good place either spec we prefer

#

long may it continue and nerf hammer begone

visual fern
charred brook
#

Out of solidarity I will play arms on every fight

visual fern
#

Real bosses => arms

candid hill
#

is arms good for m+?

visual fern
candid hill
#

haven't played for ages

minor gust
#

only arms gets crossfire shots

naive sage
charred brook
#

Fury will get nerfed off its pre 4pc week 1 stats

naive sage
#

Mage season again 🙂

tribal ember
#

Ret or arms is such a tough call man

#

The tier set for war looks sick

#

But ret is so self sufficient

#

🤔

agile crown
#

are delves reset to t1 or no?

tribal ember
#

Good question

#

I'd assume probably not

dim basalt
#

I would assume yes

#

But you only care about delves when using the keys which give the same loot unrelated to the delve difficulty, no?

shadow ibex
#

So soon

olive nest
minor gust
dim basalt
hollow plover
shy ginkgo
#

worth?

shadow ibex
olive nest
misty sandal
minor gust
hollow plover
naive sage
agile crown
tribal ember
#

What is the raid profile for most of liberation? Is it mostly st with cleave?

minor gust
olive nest
hollow plover
dim basalt
last inlet
dim basalt
olive nest
tribal ember
#

Tyvm

hollow plover
minor gust
agile crown
#

brann has tank spec now & delves reset to t4 on wowhead

#

ty guys

tribal ember
#

Oh sht

#

Didn't know delves reset to t4. Good to know

agile crown
#

map chances increase too

untold pewter
hollow plover
last inlet
zenith lodge
reef glade
minor gust
olive nest
hollow plover
dim basalt
dire hinge
thick kelp
minor gust
#

Slay Hroth 💅

dire hinge
#

nothing comes between me (arms warrior) and pookie (topping during execute)

olive nest
gaunt owl
#

they bleeding

thick kelp
#

you dont like gladde paling

gaunt owl
#

tinnitus inducing music

thick kelp
#

:(

gaunt owl
#

no i cant

cloud gyro
#

i am seeing an alarming amount of fresh lvl 80 warriors guys

severe haven
gaunt owl
thick kelp
dire hinge
tacit crystal
cloud gyro
#

open arms <3 fury

gaunt owl
minor gust
gaunt owl
#

the other 3 GCD you roll head on keyboard

tacit crystal
#

stroke these

minor gust
#

wowhead said arms S tier for raid

#

so the fotm players are arriving

dire hinge
#

gladge i enjoy it

severe haven
gaunt owl
#

wasnt that Tettles tier list ?

tacit crystal
minor gust
#

Dratnos did the raid one

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Tettles did M+

gaunt owl
#

its illegal to have warrior being rated by a boomking

dire hinge
high field
severe haven
gaunt owl
#

if its Dratnos i can let it slide for this time

tacit crystal
#

que es un frappe?

gaunt owl
#

Frappe Mortelle

gaunt owl
dire hinge
#

idk the starbucks girlies order it and its tasty, i just nod and look pretty

gaunt owl
#

if blizzard dont like us overperforming

flat willow
#

Frappe mortelle frappe mortelle

severe haven
flat willow
severe haven
#

If not now then after the race it will happen

gaunt owl
#

i did pray and did a satanic ritual to avoid the nerf

#

maybe it will work

#

its 50/50

severe haven
#

Wowhead already put arms into the sole S tier dps

flat willow
#

ah

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well it was a good run

dire hinge
flat willow
#

how did every other spec manage to avoid the S tier

minor gust
flat willow
gaunt owl
flat willow
#

wait we can still cope

cloud gyro
#

Guys what if heroic throw did 100000000000% more damage

flat willow
#

maybe slayer will catch all the nerfs

gaunt owl
#

insta lock

dire hinge
gaunt owl
#

Slayer could use a buff to not have the weird Ravager in there

naive breach
tropic flower
#

yo the reason slam is above ms as coloss is the rage cost right, as in if rage is capped it makes sense to send ms in place of slam or am i missing something?

gaunt owl
flat willow
#

where did you see slam above ms

minor gust
#

Slam above MS

naive breach
dim basalt
#

slam is our most worthless button

tropic flower
#

time to reread and see if im blind and stupid

dim basalt
#

(right after ww)

cloud gyro
#

Guys im playng slam build dont fking flame it

quasi torrent
#

slam build

#

77777777

naive breach
#

critcake you shooed him away

minor gust
#

DF season 1 10.0 flashbacks

dire hinge
cloud gyro
#

Slam build

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flat willow
tacit crystal
#

lying

dire hinge
#

It's common to be high-rage before we enter Execute Phase, but we never worry about rage amounts until then.

tacit crystal
#

but slam has prio over execute in pvp rn

tropic flower
#

for aoe colossus i see ms above slam only when sweeping is up, am i understanding this right?

tacit crystal
#

slam is literally you are stroking your shit in aoe

tropic flower
#

is it the sweeping part im reading wrong and i should take it as ms above slam no matter if sweeping is up or not?

flat willow
#

maybe you are confusing slam with the free slam cleave gives you

#

but no slam is the last button you wanna press in any situation

naive breach
#

are you on wowhead vezna or

tropic flower
#

icyveins

dire hinge
#

i'll take a gander quick, but Slam shouldn't even be listed

cloud gyro
#

Guys why does it say destructive force and then does 22k dmg

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tropic flower
#

i have a ss in a sec

#

idk if i fucked it

open ingot
#

So should I really play ravager slayer for raid content?

minor gust
#

if you want too

cloud gyro
#

crazy guide

steep osprey
tacit crystal
#

i mean this is mainly showing the opener of an aoe pull

steep osprey
#

in Cata you used Leap as a dps cd kinda

naive breach
#

now i get why vezna asked that

eager sigil
#

on demo arms you could technically run out of things to press

steep osprey
#

It did a lot more damage

eager sigil
#

so you only have slam

steep osprey
#

and you wanted to use it during CS

tropic flower
#

im trying to learn to new stuff and just checking if fury dulled my brain too much to read 😄

steep osprey
#

Nobody cares what I'm saying, cool

cloud gyro
#

I care

tacit crystal
#

same thing from wowhead

image.png
#

same writer

dim basalt
gaunt owl
steep osprey
flat willow
gaunt owl
#

Archi is in charge of both guide would be weird to have discrepancy

steep osprey
dire hinge
#

just be sure you're selecting the Colosus talents at the top, but I'm still a little confused by the comment about "Slam" having any sort of priority over anything else, it's the lowest spell listed (it has zero priority over anything, ever)

image.png
#

it's basically your backstop spell for when literally everything else is on cooldown, in all content

steep osprey
#

You'd rather use TC than Slam?

tropic flower
#

the "during sweeping" is confusing me im guessing

#

im dumb

naive breach
#

he pmuch thought when sweeping is not up MS and execute would drop under slam in that list

steep osprey
#

oh for 3+

#

nvm

dire hinge
#

Yes for 3+, in AoE

steep osprey
#

Thought it was ST

#

yeah I never use slam in aoe

cloud gyro
#

Nah it makes sense @tropic flower ur not stupid

steep osprey
#

if I can't use anything else

#

i do nothing lol

cloud gyro
#

Its just written in a confusing way

olive nest
dire hinge
#

It's a bit odd, but yes, when you have Sweeping Strikes buff active, your priorities change slightly, but only while the buff is active

cloud gyro
#

But it doesnt cover the scenario when sweeping strikes is not up,

#

Hence the confusion

dire hinge
#

just pretend those lines don't exist when Sweeping Strikes isn't active 🙂

coarse nova
#

is there any reason to paly gnome this raid or m+?

naive breach
cloud gyro
flat willow
dire hinge
naive breach
#

play dorf to not bleed out in m+ okayge

flat willow
#

disgusting disgusting gnomes...

#

I hate them so much

green stratus
#

alliance scum!

#

ORC

#

ALWAYS ORC

flat willow
#

if you go alliance at least go dwarf

olive nest
#

Bahhh, based human g

flat willow
#

have some style

thick kelp
# dire hinge just pretend those lines don't exist when Sweeping Strikes isn't active 🙂

what if i told you in the update Fishy did yesterday for AOE those lines dont exist

actions.colossus_aoe+=/thunder_clap,if=!dot.rend.remains
actions.colossus_aoe+=/thunderous_roar
actions.colossus_aoe+=/avatar
actions.colossus_aoe+=/sweeping_strikes
actions.colossus_aoe+=/ravager
actions.colossus_aoe+=/warbreaker
actions.colossus_aoe+=/champions_spear
actions.colossus_aoe+=/colossus_smash
actions.colossus_aoe+=/cleave
actions.colossus_aoe+=/bladestorm,if=talent.unhinged|talent.merciless_bonegrinder
actions.colossus_aoe+=/thunder_clap,if=dot.rend.remains<5
actions.colossus_aoe+=/demolish,if=buff.colossal_might.stack=10&(debuff.colossus_smash.remains>=2|cooldown.colossus_smash.remains>=7)
actions.colossus_aoe+=/overpower,if=talent.dreadnaught
actions.colossus_aoe+=/mortal_strike
actions.colossus_aoe+=/overpower
actions.colossus_aoe+=/thunder_clap
actions.colossus_aoe+=/skullsplitter
actions.colossus_aoe+=/execute
actions.colossus_aoe+=/bladestorm
actions.colossus_aoe+=/whirlwind```
dire hinge
#

gladge pick whichever one you think looks cool imho

dire hinge
flat willow
#

pick whichever looks cool unless you think gnomes look cool, in that case see an eye doctor

olive nest
junior lava
#

Are the Suggested builds for the new raid being updated on the wowhead page or is that something that will come in a few weeks?

naive breach
green stratus
#

pick wichever u want (as long as its horde) Arms

dire hinge
# olive nest “Lack of conditionals”

"if epx2 and lbx2, but not sweeping, and if when, me when, ur mom, and when i, if talent, but bleed duration remaining xGCD*3 not the second or third tuesday of the month"

flat willow
olive nest
#

Lmfao

dire hinge
#

current state is great

olive nest
#

So true

dire hinge
olive nest
#

Human op

#

BiS mogs

lone imp
#

bis booba

olive nest
#

Followed by female nelf

naive breach
#

i wanted to go dorfmano for season 2

dire hinge
#

run animation is silly, shoulder too small, but otherwise thumbs up

olive nest
#

For butt mogs

naive breach
#

but i kinda hate dwarfs

#

am i weird

dusty rune
#

Ayo this might be me losing the plot, but did they remove hurricane or am i just blind as fk?

cloud gyro
thick kelp
outer quest
dusty rune
olive nest
#

It’s going to be nice having all this arms chat to read for the next week before they nerf again

dire hinge
#

my favorite fact about Hurricane is that despite the buff saying you gained strength the longer you bladestormed, that's now actually how the buff worked gladge

#

it just put a buff on you that would passively gain strength over a set period of time instead

#

they just prevented you from cancelling bladestorm to keep up that illusion

gaunt owl
#

it was so easier for them to code it that way 😄

dire hinge
#

it was a very, very smart solution

gaunt owl
#

simplify

dire hinge
#

albiet a bit annoying to lose cancelability

#

but now we have demolish so my annoyance can focus on something else instead

hollow plover
tiny dock
#

are servers up yet or hwat

naive breach
#

do my eyes deceive me

#

do we go UNDEAD OR WHAT

dire hinge
#

do they look cool to you? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

if so, send it

naive breach
#

only as casters 😦

dire hinge
#

I cast sword gladge

naive breach
#

ghost swords okayge

dire hinge
#

dracthyr_sweat g-g-g-ghost??

gaunt owl
#

if thats where you looked at it

naive breach
#

no i have a cheeky faction change token

#

its fucking time

iron vigil
#

is arms looking better in m+/raid than fury atm?

olive nest
#

Play whatever you’re best at or you enjoy more

#

Both viable

sterile elm
#

Arms is always the superior spec

junior lava
#

Can anyone point me in the direction of what build to use for each boss tonight in raid?

lapis bolt
#

why do we use roar before avatar in st?

visual fern
#

Maint extended, arms is getting shot @silk spade

#

It is written

dire hinge
silk spade
dire hinge
# lapis bolt why do we use roar before avatar in st?

the upfront hit of Roar doesn't do all that much damage, we care more about the bleed it applies afterwards. By roaring first, we can have more GCDs spent on other spells within our Avatar/CS windows instead, without losing any meaningful damage

junior lava
dire hinge
magic canopy
lapis bolt
dire hinge
#

of course! happy to help, good luck today!

shadow ibex
olive nest
#

They needed an extra hour to nerf arms in a technical way

dire hinge
#

one can dream

lean geode
dire hinge
dim basalt
dire hinge
fresh spire
#

Patch delayed for implementation of new bladestorm copium