go hug him
#arms
hollow plover
smoky kayak
no wonder you're so lonely
magic canopy
LMAO
smoky kayak
explains why you're always in here!
icy mulch
magic canopy
I mean i should be dating or something, but i dont like dating apps so i just play video games man cba
icy mulch
Sound like my brother
smoky kayak
you should set them up
magic canopy
void bay
I mean i should be dating or something, but i dont like dating apps so i just pl...
maybe u can find a nice warrior to date u from here (not me)
silk spade
explains why you're always in here!
relatable
icy mulch
He's got his 4-wheeler, ski-doo, fishing boat, he does his own thing.
smoky kayak
hear that Madox? Sounds pretty cool
fair siren
I mean i should be dating or something, but i dont like dating apps so i just pl...
grind the online scene and retire in your 30s
hollow plover
I mean i should be dating or something, but i dont like dating apps so i just pl...
do you even care about love rn?
cause it doesnt seem like u care
smoky kayak
what is love?
hollow plover
so what gives
magic canopy
what is love?
baby dont hurt me
smoky kayak
no more... 
hollow plover
what is love?
magic canopy
Dont really drink, so bars are basically w/e. Don't like dating apps, and there isnt really any better options so i just do my thing if i meet someone great if i dont also great
smoky kayak
I know a guy with a ski-doo
magic canopy
always felt like i needed to be happy for just me before i could be in a relationship and just kinda been that way for a while
smoky kayak
jus sayin
magic canopy
i used to snowboard as a kid that was fun
hollow plover
Dont really drink, so bars are basically w/e. Don't like dating apps, and there ...
On a real note, if you don't care then it's chill, just live your life and someone will stumble upon you as long as you don't make yourself actively unavailable
magic canopy
but all i wanted to do was play mechwarrior
void bay
always felt like i needed to be happy for just me before i could be in a relatio...
take up rollerskating
lean geode
always felt like i needed to be happy for just me before i could be in a relatio...
The double-edged sword of need to be happy on your own, but then being happy on your own and not feeling the need for another person to factor into that
smoky kayak
and now all he does is play Madwarrior
magic canopy
Ill meet someone eventually, not really worried about it.
sharp rivet
magic canopy
its not like im against a relationship, i'm just not searching for one at the detriment of my own mental health
social media is bad for the soul
lean geode
Preach
magic canopy
(i scroll twitter every day)
void bay
its not like im against a relationship, i'm just not searching for one at the de...
if you get in one that is a detriment you do this:
magic canopy
but i get to see cool art
magic canopy
void bay
i dont really use any social media except discord, and even then only nerd shit like wow
magic canopy
no we are artist appriciators here
lean geode
fury bowl baby
It me
hollow plover
"I need madox"
lean geode
Madox link me that shit I will buy it no matter the price
magic canopy
"I need m***adox***"
it says i need more rage
hollow plover
shit
smoky kayak
that's pretty cool
void bay
Madox link me that shit I will buy it no matter the price
it is $4000 as it is a one off
smoky kayak
I'll raise you - my very own gorehowl
https://x.com/Archimtiros/status/1891253070488650158
X
silk spade
goated
hollow plover
wait this is really cool
smoky kayak
Yeah, Lightforged version
void bay
that blade looks like its made of bread....can you eat it?
smoky kayak
lean geode
p sure its not for sale person's personal project
Ask them nicely to make me one (I don't have twitter)
smoky kayak
is that a plushie gorehowl
it was a limited run they did in China to celebrate their new statue
smoky kayak
hollow plover
I bonk my neice with it
why is bonk the perfect verb to describe hitting your niece with your plush
its so accurate
void bay
anyone watching this space x launch thing?
hollow plover
anyone watching this space x launch thing?
neh
smoky kayak
devout pewter
just watching critcakes new video and getting flashbanged with a tier list and us in S tier, am I dreaming? 😄 (I barely care about tier lists, but sadly many do so yay)
void bay
big rocket go fast
magic canopy
just watching critcakes new video and getting flashbanged with a tier list and u...
prob was made pre nerf, but the reasoning for the S rank still stands
most likely high A or A+ even now
hollow plover
just watching critcakes new video and getting flashbanged with a tier list and u...
i believe dratnos made that wowhead list right? He's very progression influenced and it might be ok to assume he doesnt have much warrior knowledge aside from "wow yea we need arms warrior for execute on bandit and mugzee"
hollow plover
prob was made pre nerf, but the reasoning for the S rank still stands
the list was made with the nerf in mind
fair siren
i think petkos m++ tier list is the best ive seen
devout pewter
yeah, I think it's without the execute nerf in mind 😄
oh it was with it in mind? interesting
magic canopy
gonna make my own tier list and pull all warrior specs in D because if you arent first you are last
fair siren
er not petki kiratank
hollow plover
oh it was with it in mind? interesting
it was mentioned in the notes yea
quaint bloom
says everyone every season
magic canopy
its not that the keys are meta
hollow plover
apparently the new keys are very melee unfriendly
everyone said at every point in every key
magic canopy
its that the meta specs deal 6+% more damage with a proper comp
warrior/hunter/tank/healer/x will still perform very well
it just wont be god comp
void bay
noone wants a hunter, trust me
magic canopy
bm hunter cranks
fair siren
idk why they are so afriad of letting hunters mark be aoe
hollow plover
its that the meta specs deal 6+% more damage with a proper comp
tbf nothing beat enhance in season 1 no matter what unless the enhance player sucked or the key level was too low to matter
last inlet
you will have one in raid for the shitty HM
we got like 4 hunters xD its pretty dumb.
devout pewter
unless they rework some serious buff combinations certain classes probably won't ever enjoy being "god comp"
stable fiber
guys where is the pineapple game
void bay
we got like 4 hunters xD its pretty dumb.
depends on your guild....it doesnt matter for most guilds
last inlet
depends on your guild....it doesnt matter for most guilds
true
stable fiber
so i know what mechanics are in the raid
void bay
im casual as hell so doesnt matter for me
but people just take these lists as gospel, and whatever RWF guilds play even though they are trying to 99.9% min max
last inlet
lol yeah...
hollow plover
so i know what mechanics are in the raid
magic canopy
tbf nothing beat enhance in season 1 no matter what unless the enhance player su...
the reason enchance stayed op for so long is if you were mediocre at the spec you did okay to low damage
but if you actually min maxxed it you did a crazy amount of damage especially in keys
hollow plover
the reason enchance stayed op for so long is if you were mediocre at the spec yo...
unless ur in ST, then u just press windstrike and win
devout pewter
but people just take these lists as gospel, and whatever RWF guilds play even th...
Killing a boss 10s faster because you picked the best instead of the worst dps class is totally worth it!
magic canopy
so blizzard would have just made enhance players actually bad to make the min maxers balanced
which is 90% of the player base
so we just kind of had to suffer in high keys for the sake of the larger playerbase as a whole which is why it got reworked
void bay
Killing a boss 10s faster because you picked the best instead of the worst dps c...
it is if you are in some top tier guild.....im just happy if we only mess up 40% of the mechanics
weary hull
does ravager work with sweeping
devout pewter
it is if you are in some top tier guild.....im just happy if we only mess up 40%...
I mean we can argue how "top tier" and I'd say, unless you're trying for realm first or higher at least it's not worth alienating people over what class they're playing
magic canopy
does ravager work with sweeping
no
maiden moat
do i look right that the B.I.S weapon and endboss s weapon sims kinda the same ?
weary hull
magic canopy
they also fixxed the bug that gave you additional CM stacks
magic canopy
do i look right that the B.I.S weapon and endboss s weapon sims kinda the same ?
0.3% (thanks fishy(
severe haven
49?
void bay
I mean we can argue how "top tier" and I'd say, unless you're trying for realm f...
for sure....id rather let people play whatever they want unless it really is making a raid unviable....last time i raided seriously was mythic ToS and it broke me....no thanks
devout pewter
true
hollow plover
its getting closer to 5pm pst wheres the last tuning post
devout pewter
gotta see if I can get into a queen group, finally get my aotc kill lmao
minor gust
last one was Friday I highly doubt there will be anything till after RWF
magic canopy
i mean the tuning doesnt matter to RFT
void bay
gotta see if I can get into a queen group, finally get my aotc kill lmao
you don thave that? there are loads of pugs
devout pewter
you don thave that? there are loads of pugs
took a nice long break to play a lot of warhammer games haha
void bay
they will have whatever is best
best for them, sure....but they will need certain abilities that might not even be relevant with gear
minor gust
Blizz still usually waits till after RWF even if it doesnt really matter
void bay
took a nice long break to play a lot of warhammer games haha
fair enough!
lethal stream
who have new talents for arms m+ and raid
void bay
wowhead
magic canopy
Slayer Arms Raid ST:
CcEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCwMmZGzYegZbWWWmZAAAAwgphZGzMDDDmxmZmhZYGGAAAAAAAegxsMzMDgMGbbDsAGwMMhMD2A
Slayer Arms Raid +Cleave:
CcEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCwMmZGzYMbzyyyMzAAAAwgphZmlZmhxygZsZmZwwMMAAAAAAA8AjZZmZGAZM22GYBMgZYCZgN
this one for if there is cleave like Stix/ First boss or maybe rik reverb
Slayer Arms Raid 2 Target:
CcEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCwMmZGzYMbzyyyMDAAAAGMNMzsMzMMMYGbmZGMMDDAAAAAAAPwYWmZmBYJjx22ALgBMDTIzgN
Colossus M+:
CcEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCGmZGzYGzDMbz2yyYGAAAAGMNMzYmZYGMzMYmZYGeghBAAAAAAgZMbDGgtMDYzMGWgBmRb0YwC
magic canopy
does not include potentially colossus 2target but me dgaf about that rn
devout pewter
god damn, not a single queen group around (lucky me that I'm EU and got another day for this lmao)
void bay
nooo the rocket didnt go
hollow plover
god damn, not a single queen group around (lucky me that I'm EU and got another ...
what do u need queen for
devout pewter
aotc, haven't gone for it yet 😄
void bay
its pretty easy personal responsibility wise compared to rasageth or whatever it was called....or the one in the green zone
severe haven
I've got a few years before the big 50.
45
tacit crystal
Slayer Arms Raid ST:
CcEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCwMmZGzYegZbWWWmZAAAAwgphZGzMDDDmx...
i better hope slayer arms has ravager here
hollow plover
aotc, haven't gone for it yet 😄
not me with 50+ hc kills on my warrior
devout pewter
haha, can you gift me one
tacit crystal
otherwise you are reported @magic canopy
magic canopy
i better hope slayer arms has ravager here
Fishylord will not convince me of such fantasy
tacit crystal
madox for timeout
hollow plover
i actually only have 53, i kinda thought closer to 60
severe haven
it feels illegal to go for ravager slayer tbh
tacit crystal
i actually only have 53, i kinda thought closer to 60
try 1000
main saddle
it feels illegal to go for ravager slayer tbh
But it actually feels better to play and is more dps
severe haven
But it actually feels better to play and is more dps
its soo fucked up lmao
hollow plover
But it actually feels better to play and is more dps
hurr durr ignore hero talents huuuuurrrr (i actually agree with you)
tender ermine
Hey guys, just wanna put a quick message in here. I came here asking for help a month or two ago. Thanks to the ongoing assistance of all you great people I've managed to actually start topping the dps meters in raid and feeling confident playing dps in a raid environment. I can't thank everyone enough and look forward to playing a load more arms in future.
hollow plover
haha, can you gift me one
all boosting halted for me this week sorry friend
hollow plover
Hey guys, just wanna put a quick message in here. I came here asking for help a ...
goat
main saddle
its soo fucked up lmao
Bladestorm is just bs 
devout pewter
all boosting halted for me this week sorry friend
no need to boost, just take one of your kills and push it over to me 😄
main saddle
hurr durr ignore hero talents huuuuurrrr (i actually agree with you)
Even the talents can’t fix bladestorm
severe haven
Hey guys, just wanna put a quick message in here. I came here asking for help a ...
nice
hollow plover
no need to boost, just take one of your kills and push it over to me 😄
lolol
devout pewter
devout pewter
I think I grinded too much fyralath and got tired of raiding in general.. I just didn't enjoy it and then I dropped into a grim dark break 😄
hollow plover
https://tenor.com/view/push-it-patrick-star-gif-5131285
pick your poison
devout pewter
and now I'm here, but in the end who cares, in about a week any achievement from season 1 will be irrelevant again
devout pewter
pick your poison
nice, do you have any arms kill with like 60 score?
severe haven
<:okayge:917646812519739433>
👍
sour crown
with jugg stacks pre-execute phase, is it meant to be pretty RNG on how well you hold the stacks or you generally assuming full uptime should be able to maintain it with proper play?
i checked some logs but they were generally really high logs so hard to tell if it was normal or good RNG lol. also my war is only low 620s ilvl so not sure if more haste or whatever would help that compared to what im trying on dummies atm.
hollow plover
3x mine
yea sry im just kinda stuck boosting a bunch
at least i can say i make a million per week
so thats good
👍
stable fiber
i ended 5th on all stars, didnt raid last 3 weeks
1st was possible i think
if i cared enough
dense nimbus
yo, weapon slot is still a crafted one? or that BIS mace out performs
stable fiber
that one guy raided a ST log run with all the rank 1 people
ok yeah maybe not
killed heroic sikran in 54 seconds
stable fiber
yeah i did that in df fated seasons
and prepatch
there where a couple of extremely strong trinkets in ~1:40 scenarios, stuff like irideus fragment
stable fiber
im missing last 2 on my warrior for mythic
hollow plover
how come
stable fiber
since i raided mainly on my mage
stable fiber
guild needed a mage instead of a warrior
hollow plover
traitor
stable fiber
also warrior got nerfed 4 times in a row and that kinda ruined it for me
hollow plover
also warrior got nerfed 4 times in a row and that kinda ruined it for me
it still ended up being really good if you're really good
both specs had really good fights
if you played both then you're end up pumping hella
i cant even english
wtf is wrong with me
sry
hollow plover
if you played both then you're end up pumping hella
you'd
stable fiber
i pretty much topped every fight as fury on mythic
this is pretty funny
same dps, almost a rank 1 parse, 13 percentile difference
hollow plover
im not ingame rn to check, whats battlelord again?
spring vale
overpower can reset MS
fallen nova
95% of my playtime is spent as prot in keys. However, im going to be maining Arms in raid.
Would you craft a shield tomorrow? Or hold off til week 3 to craft a 2h? OR do i caft a non wep that usable in both specs?
We will be raiding mythic later in the season but not next week.
What are yalls thoughts?
obsidian acorn
Craft nothing
stable fiber
yeah you dont even craft a weapon as arms anyways
tacit crystal
You can't craft a weapon usable by both prot and arms
tender ermine
95% of my playtime is spent as prot in keys. However, im going to be maining Arm...
What's your priority? Do you prefer keys as prot or raid as arms?
stable fiber
unless?
tacit crystal
only arms and fury
hollow plover
95% of my playtime is spent as prot in keys. However, im going to be maining Arm...
a crafted shield doesnt give you vaults faster. it simply makes pushing easier. you can easily get gear and vaults from using any shield drop from dungeons or raid. A crafted weapon absolutely benefits you in the raid. You just need to think what you value more, raid progression or m+ pushing
fallen nova
I spend most of my game time tanking keys. But im unsure if that would be throwing my dps in prog
hollow plover
I spend most of my game time tanking keys. But im unsure if that would be throwi...
just make a 2nd warrior like me
tacit crystal
it would slow you down in the first few weeks
hollow plover
some have even more
stable fiber
It would throw dps in prog, but if you spend a majority of your time in keys i could see you crafting a shield
stable fiber
yeah if you arent going into mythic week 1-3 i would just send the shield
heroic you kill the bosses by doing the mechanics, none of them should be a dps/stat check
hollow plover
^
fallen nova
This is fascinating, arms chat is saying send the shield. Prot chat is saying send the 2h.
long fable
I wish I didn’t have to take the skill breaker talent for col single target bleh
hollow plover
i personally play m+ to get gear for raid so i would always craft a weapon despite tanking in m+. i can see you being the opposite Broxdale
sour crown
im in the same boat of probably tanking most of my keys early on but playing dps in raid. but ill just be farming like 6s/7s early on and trying to get some weekly 10s done and have a lot of exp tanking so id rather send 100% of my gearing / char progression into my dps spec.
but maybe thats the novelty of me being a long time tank and a new dps player as well
stable fiber
This is fascinating, arms chat is saying send the shield. Prot chat is saying se...
I think its more when you enter raid that matters more
tacit crystal
i mean realistically it literally does not matter
stable fiber
also this^
hollow plover
i mean realistically it literally does not matter
the reasoning given to say "it does not matter" can also be applied to just about everything
stable fiber
I really dont think you not having a crafted mythic weapon will be the problem if your guild cannot kill like the first 2 or 4 bosses of mythic
but neither would the shield
hmm
tacit crystal
unless you guys are trying to realiably get ce in 8-10 weeks
your choice has 0 impact on raid progression
hollow plover
having more dps in prog is more fun and feels more rewarding
it helps people stay motivated
even though the effective outcome stays the same
quaint otter
hollow plover
please keep that in mind
ionic loom
Loot prio is based on dps meters everybody knows this 
quaint otter
Yes.
hollow plover
loot prio is GM > GM's gf > officers > you
nah that one singular pumper is either on par with gms gf or is below everyone else
flat willow
the warglaive pumper
hollow plover
every guild has at least one guy where you just now that guy has the shit
and he is the shit
flat willow
it's 40 40 10 10 !!
hollow plover
it's 40 40 10 10 !!
nah
flat willow
the forbidden tech...
hollow plover
lol
yall i gotta change my tires tomorrow
or i can just pay 70€ to a mechanic
and play wow instead
tender ermine
If someone got the best in slots weapon, where would be best to macro that on use? Can it be added to a colossus smash + Avatar macro?
hollow plover
why macro it, just keybind it
grand idol
if you dont have another on use might as well
remote ledge
Assert dominance and click it
tender ermine
I'd imagine it's best to use the on use with colossus smash in the same way as a trinket
hollow plover
I'd keybind it seperately and probably use it during high dmg phases like add spawns when i dont have avatar up, might not be the best use-case though
or just send it along with avatar in ST
grand idol
Its not a huge buff anyways is it? if you have another on use youd send it second anyways right?
somber geyser
it shares a cooldown with trinkets?
hollow plover
Its not a huge buff anyways is it? if you have another on use youd send it secon...
4k or more secondary stats depending on ilvl
grand idol
I think so, someone said it did iirc. i do not "know" though
as in, I have not personally tested it.
grand idol
4k or more secondary stats depending on ilvl
Thats like half a trinket, give or take?
hollow plover
it shares a cooldown with trinkets?
i do not believe so
somber geyser
I'm looking at the BiS patchwork 5 min sim and it uses it at the 22 second mark, 2 min 23 mark, and doesn't use it a 3rd time even though it could
grand idol
Id believe someone else over me on that front then. As i have no first hand knowledge.
long fable
i still cant figure out whats in arms kit that causes a glow bug every now and then
somber geyser
does it cost a global to use? cuz if its off the GCD, I don't see why it would wait 22 seconds to send it
long fable
so this was last night and this was back in october same glow. refused to go away. arms only
hollow plover
I'm looking at the BiS patchwork 5 min sim and it uses it at the 22 second mark,...
send the sim
hollow plover
yea i see now
remote ledge
so this was last night and this was back in october same glow. refused to go awa...
Gold glowing goblin within this politics...
hollow plover
i suppose it does share
grand idol
22 is about when smash would come back up. but not before a trinket cd would be up. that is strange.
its 30 isnt it? or only 20?
long fable
that was completely naked
grand idol
oh my
dusty sorrel
so dumb question but given all the information we have currently with sims the updated wowhead stuff is as close to accurate as possible?
hollow plover
so dumb question but given all the information we have currently with sims the u...
yea p much
dusty sorrel
dope
hollow plover
there are some shenanigans in testing like ravager over bladestorm as slayer arms
but like
nah the wowhead stuff is good to go
shadow ibex
on use trinket puts BiS on CD
long fable
two passive trinkets + bis is gonna be bonkers
tacit crystal
two passive trinkets + bis is gonna be bonkers
why would you do that when house of cards exists
like what
long fable
because bis go brr?
smoky kayak
Best in Slots has a shared CD with trinkets, but trinket buffs are usually bigger, so you're likely to align trinket with Avatar and use Slots on the off-cycle cooldowns (e.g. the following CS)
long fable
Ah cool
smoky kayak
assuming you're using the 1.5m trinket that is
remote ledge
For fury send bis with next recklessness?
smoky kayak
kinda like using Mark/Transmitter and Mad Queens right now
smoky kayak
For fury send bis with next recklessness?
with AM yeah, Reck should have like a 30-ish sec CD
although currently Fury does favor two passive trinkets by a small margin, in which case you just send Slots with the opening Avatar and whatever it best lines up with next
remote ledge
Good to know, thank you archi
crude bridge
brand new to arms spec and trying to learn it. Im using mad ox's guide for 11.1 to learn. Just curious, when doing aoe with arms (using the colossus build) do overpower, slam and mortal strike only hit one other target while sweeping strikes is up? otherwise the only other uncapped aoe abilities are cleave and some of your CD's like thunderous roar / ravager / warbreaker right?
i just want to know so i fully understand the spec and how it functions
crude bridge
and is cleave top on priority in your rotation on anything more than one target? i just know some specs/classes stick with their single target prio rotation and dont swap to aoe prio till like 3 or 4 targets
because of damage loss
rancid solstice
Cleave on cd top prio in aoe yeah. On specifically 2 target you use cleave as filler instead of slam like you would in ST
Well maybe top prio after applying rend with clap. Usual things come first
crude bridge
Cleave on cd top prio in aoe yeah. On specifically 2 target you use cleave as fi...
ok so just so i understand correctly... 3 or more targets, cleave is top prio in rotation. But 2 targets specifically, cleave is filler instead of slam and mortal strike and overpower are top prio above it?
rancid solstice
Yea you got it
crude bridge
perfect thank you
one other random question, in the guide it mentions in your ST rotation with the colossus build, mortal strike is top prio right above overpower. But in the aoe rotation, overpower is above mortal strike in prio after cleave. why is that?
rancid solstice
Bc overpower can buff cleave damage with martial prowess
crude bridge
perfect thank you. im just trying to fully understand how the spec functions so i actually know why im pressing things in certain orders
rancid solstice
Colossus arms actually makes good sense. Really though you spend a lot of time just following the tank around putting up bleeds cleavin and clappin and building demolish stacks before you actually get to plant your ravager and really blast
crude bridge
Colossus arms actually makes good sense. Really though you spend a lot of time j...
makes sense, in higher keys where mobs live longer i def see why it would be so strong and blast
where in lower keys by the time you drop everything stuff might be almost dead
somber hawk
Does anyone know what the goon trinket does?
Do the goons just do damage or do they give stats?
stoic siren
Bladestorm being so weak feels bad
crude bridge
what is the talent again that helps maintain rend on your prio target?
stoic siren
Bloodletting I think it’s called
crude bridge
ah thank you. is there a weak aura that shows you when to refresh rend on your other non prio targets with thunder clap?
sudden fox
So transmitter just got nerfed another 10%
snow flame
minor gust
indeed
minor gust
Next tuesday
gusty nymph
call them 🙂
thick hamlet
there shouldn't be a bladdestorm
it should just be that every rotation casts ms on all characters in range
hmm yes just let me work on arms balance
shadow ibex
no me
lunar remnant
If my guild is starting normal tomorrow then colossus prob ain’t worth adds gonna die quick
but curious to see how it ends up vs slayer first two bosses
charred brook
When does the race to world last stream start
silk spade
When does the race to world last stream start
is there a multistream or something?
charred brook
I swear Max usually streams it or am I crazy
wintry arch
all the maxroll talents have thunderclap for raid
are the adds alive long enough for rending them?
wait all the specs have it
hmm
lofty crow
I swear Max usually streams it or am I crazy
i think he did it for amirdrassil because there was no race going into the fated season 4 but for this one the end of season 1 goes right into season 2 so liquid is busy racing and stuff
no content for us
also am i reading the rotation priority correctly that mortal strike is more important than bladestorm? feels odd
wintry arch
also am i reading the rotation priority correctly that mortal strike is more imp...
all the dmg from bladestorm in single target is from unhinged which is just 2 mortal strikes
so you only wanna bladestorm when youve just colossus smashed
and that usually means having MS on cd beforehand
hazy flower
Race world literal last stream
eu has tuesday
frank rapids
What's eu
tacit crystal
my phone can't run multitwitch apparently
hi will yoh be playing ravager tomorrow
lofty crow
why does the execute range priority include a note about martial prowess but the regular priority does not? is it because adding execute into the mix makes it no longer take care of itself?
lofty crow
yes thats what i meant but i think i understand it now, i learned fury first and so until a few seconds ago i thought arms execute had a cooldown
tacit crystal
It has to do with maximizing execute casts during the execute range and filling downtime
lofty crow
now that i see its spammable i understand what they mean by just using overpower for upkeep
tacit crystal
or opportunist just being strong enough to press
strange linden
I’m trying to figure out if I should go arms for this season in raid. I usually follow critcake and in his last vid he shares his ideas on which specs will be best for each individual boss in the new raid, but from his input it looks like he’s listed fury as the dominate spec?
glossy tusk
we get 1 spark right? so cant craft weapon?
silk spade
hi will yoh be playing ravager tomorrow
probably not
glossy tusk
Just pray gods to drop few in keys
the season where grim batol was m+ i did 54 runs first week and i didnt get weapon
long fable
which talent for Colossus is reducing the cooldown on warbreaker? its desyncing my demolish and its annoying
oh wait its just the global isnt it
long fable
I didnt even realize I had AM
quaint otter
regal wharf
fair tinsel
As a fury refugee I must say, being able to tell game mechanics to fuck off via die by the sword is the most cathartic thing after a full season of cringe fixates and other shite
long fable
Die by the sword is probably my second favorite defensive in the game
only seconded to spell reflect
quaint otter
Idk why u fall for that "arms is 3% better" panic
fair tinsel
fuck no toploaded burst
long fable
Im not panicking? Im playing the spec I prefer
fair tinsel
Oh i'm not doing it for #s, i'm doing it because it does same or more than fury, with actual frontloaded damage
AM fury is ass
AM fury with no odyn feels massively jank, jank enough to retreat to this spec which I have hated since wod
rare kite
AM fury is ass
you do know RA or AM has nothing to do with burst right? it was all odyns and titans torment
fair tinsel
Hence why I mentioned odyn
long fable
I could do without slayer but like Colossus M+ is very satisfying to play
quaint otter
you do know RA or AM has nothing to do with burst right? it was all odyns and ti...
Dont ruin magic
fair tinsel
Having no big unga bunga button off rip is the least satisfying shit
quaint otter
fair tinsel
Colossus arms actually has SOME burst off opener, unlike fury sans odyn+talents
long fable
Col arms is fun for M+ its single target I dont find fun though
fair tinsel
Yea it feels a bit off in st
Big execute+overpower buffed mortal strike cleaves are rad tho
The way fury felt (Not tuned, felt) going into tww prepatch was on point
If they tuned around that, wouldn't even try arms lmao
long fable
fury would only get my attention if they made SMF good but that wont happen ever lol
fair tinsel
That would mean touching fury
long fable
i dont mind options
fair tinsel
And idk, actually revamping the tree beyond "we moved some utility and defensive talents, hyuck"
long fable
but a mortal strike with the black hand feels so good
stray blade
long fable
looks to be Kultiran as #1
wide pumice
does anyone have a weakaura for marked for execution stacks
long fable
Im just going on what I see on bloodmallet could be your specific stat layout
lean geode
Im just going on what I see on bloodmallet could be your specific stat layout
Bloodmallet is broken, the sim I linked is in 11.1 bis
long fable
Oh neato on both fronts good to know thanks
wide pumice
https://wago.io/9n9GqeQ6-
ty so max stacks is the money noise?
lean geode
ty so max stacks is the money noise?
idk I don't use that one personally, I made my own
Cone's is probably better than mine
sand kettle
what's a good spellreflect WA for season 2? anyone?
spring vale
ty so max stacks is the money noise?
Money noise is:
3 stacks of mfe
2 stacks of sudden death
Sudden death has 3s or less remaining
I think
sand kettle
tyty
stuck axle
Do unhinged MS's not work with sweeping strikes anymore?
stuck axle
i just came back
clear rain
Is the season coming today?
grand idol
Tomorrow, but yes.
fair tinsel
Not seeing a colossus st opener, do I just send demolish after ms on first warbreaker as per the st priority?
smoky kayak
Cause Colossus ST isn't really a thing that exists atm, but yes, follow the priority
fair tinsel
Yea was mainly just asking for bosses in m+
Feels weird seeing 12m crits as a warrior
wish I had a crit/haste set
fair tinsel
Not cause for celebration
vivid void
It worries me to see us in S
fair tinsel
blizzard won't stand for warrior existing there on any website
dense nimbus
does it worth to swap all stats to arms now and start the raid or just do the raid and gear as arms?
fair tinsel
They'll hit us with the stick until fury and arms are both mediocre equally
Not much swapping to be done outside of remaking gear and maybe swapping from versa thread to crit
minor gust
dont over value secondary stats. Just get a different neck and ring and your more than ok
warped coral
O, another 15% nerf on execute
finite ginkgo
Its Not another
dense nimbus
well arms kinda was over performing to be frank
but no matter i guess even if its on par with fury i would still go arms. alot of execution fights in the raid.
reef glade
holy 15 sv
rare kite
We S tier!
be prepared for nerfs post rwf
paper summit
ive been away for a while, is colossus performing better than slayer now single target?
minor gust
no
paper summit
thanks
arctic matrix
what is the best position to be standing when trying to aoe a mob with cleave?? feels like when i stand to lose sometimes im missing a few targets with cleave any advice
minor gust
cleave is a 180 frontal
arctic matrix
alright i think i know what you mean ty
agile chasm
Ok someone tell me what to do
I have no agency
Do I go spiky aoe mythic+ or jugg m+
For m+ tomorrow.. obv
crude bridge
Where does execute fit into your prio rotation with ST and the aoe with the colossus build?
Does it take priority over overpower or mortal strike in ST or aoe?
agile chasm
In colossus it seems like in ST I never press execute?
Is that correct?
Except as filler ig
teal fossil
You press it with ep
dire hinge
Executioner's Precision (debuff you put on the target, if talented, you'll likely take it)
agile chasm
Ah ok I see, thanks! This build does take it
Where does that fall in the prio?
Is that super high prio, even over MS? I assume not on MS
dire hinge
so at high health you basically use it above Overpower if it's available (ie: Sudden Death, as you mentioned)
when in Execute Range it has a few different conditions where it can bounce around prioritize wise
this is only for Colossus ST execute range. If we ignore Major Cooldowns (so just talking about your core rotation stuff), it's basically:
- if Juggernaut is about to fall off, Execute is your highest priority
- MS if you have 2x EP and Ravager isn't active
- Overpower at <50 rage
- Execute if 40+ Rage
- Overpower regardless of rage
- Execute regardless of rage (brainless filler filler)
Higher in the list = higher priority
crude bridge
this is **only for Colossus ST execute range**. If we ignore Major Cooldowns (so...
So in execute range, you should only be MS when you have 2x EP otherwise overpower and execute?
Also you don't take bladestorm in the colossus build
At least not the one on wowhead
dire hinge
So in execute range, you should only be MS when you have 2x EP otherwise overpow...
for arms, in Execute range, we really only send MS if:
- Rend is about to fall off (MS auto-casts Rend at low health)
- If we have 2x EP stacks applied to the target
The kicker is that when playing Colossus you also never want to cast MS if Ravager is currently active (because Ravager will auto-cast MS for you). So you focus on building your EP stacks / OP-ing, between the auto-MS casts instead.
agile chasm
If I've misaligned WB and demo, do I just wait to get them realigned?
ig they really should always be aligned, 45 secs each
spring vale
send
their cooldowns are not static, they are affected by spending rage and casting mortal strike cleave respectively
dire hinge
^ Arms naturally desyncs, just send it unless a big pack will happen very shortly (like within a few seconds)
crude bridge
for arms, in Execute range, we really only send MS if:
- Rend is about to fall o...
This may he a dumb question. But I'll still learning the spec and how it functions, what does it mean on your priority list that you execute if 40+ rage but you overpower regardless of rage? When you have overpower at <50 rage
agile chasm
What about thunderous? Also just send?
spring vale
I'd try to send that outside of WB to not waste a gcd on it
dire hinge
This may he a dumb question. But I'll still learning the spec and how it functio...
sure thing, so this isn't a rotation, it's a "priority list". Basically you scan that list from top-to-bottom and the first item that is "True" for your character's current state is what you should do
it's like a "yes/no" tree the whole way down
spring vale
Once you meet one of the yes you stop there
dire hinge
well said, yeah, then repeat for your next GCD
crude bridge
Well I guess i meant, you have it as OP at <50 rage but execute at when you have 40 or more rage? Or am I reading that wrong
dire hinge
yup! so say you have 100 rage.
You have more than 50, so you wouldn't overpower, so you skip that line.
Execute would be the play then
But if you had, say, 30 rage, then Overpower would be the play 🙂
spring vale
At first it can be a lot to keep in mind but once you get used to it, your brain just kinda knows and specs with priorities like Arms (Enhancement also similar) feel very refreshing to play because you're always doing some form of thinking
dire hinge
honestly i offload most of it to weakauras and turn my brain off
computer shit is for computers, let them do math
im here to bonk
spring vale
Yess a good weakaura will carry hard, I myself use Luxthos with some things moved around and find that it works wonders
crude bridge
yup! so say you have 100 rage.
You have more than 50, so you wouldn't overpower...
Ok and then you weave in molten strikes when you have 2 stacks of EP then
Outside of your ravager
agile chasm
Ty Hrothmar I appreciate you, first time arms. Usually hard running fury but I think arms is just going to be a lot better so I'm forcing myself to run arms lol
gl in keys tomorrow bois
crude bridge
Same here ^^ first time arms
dire hinge
Correct, if at any point if you have 2x EP stacks, you Mortal Strike.
- except when Ravager is running
- and if Juggernaut is about to fall off
crude bridge
Are there weak auras that show you when you have 2x EP stacks?
lean geode
Buddy ripped the edit insta
dire hinge
hehe
finite ginkgo
can anyone link a colossal might weakaura?
dire hinge
Are there weak auras that show you when you have 2x EP stacks?
most packs usually track this directly on Mortal Strike itself, but any "debuff" aura can be altered to track it
lean geode
can anyone link a colossal might weakaura?
This should be pretty easy to make yourself with a template weakaura, it'll walk you through creating it yourself in the addon
dire hinge
Ty Hrothmar I appreciate you, first time arms. Usually hard running fury but I t...
of course! happy to help out ❤️ the arms chat is usually pretty helpful with questions so we're all here to support each other
lean geode
Arms chat usually helpful
Fury chat usually just people shitposting about gacha games
thick kelp
arms chat but its just hrothmar
dire hinge
i value my faith in humanity so i don't go to fury chat 
crude bridge
Correct, if at any point if you have 2x EP stacks, you Mortal Strike.
- except w...
What is the reasoning for why you MS when juggernaut is about to fall off?
lean geode
i value my faith in humanity so i don't go to fury chat <:gladge:963970137701109...
Very wise of you
finite ginkgo
This should be pretty easy to make yourself with a template weakaura, it'll walk...
idk how that works
dire hinge
What is the reasoning for why you MS when juggernaut is about to fall off?
oh sorry, to be clear: you Execute when juggernaut is about to fall off. This would be a case where Execute takes priority even over top of a 2xEP MS attack
those stacks are very valuable and you dont want to lose them due to a timeout
crude bridge
oh sorry, to be clear: you Execute when juggernaut is about to fall off. This wo...
Okay thank you. And in terms of the AOE prio for execute where does it fit in there?
lean geode
idk how that works
When you open weakauras, it should have a thing for "Simple Premade Auras" right at the top, you can make an icon or whatever to track colossal might from there, and the addon will walk you through the steps
thick kelp
If you have to do a mechanic during execute phase which forces you downtime from the boss you have 2 options
- You do it and leap back
- You tell your raid leader that your Jugg is falling off cant do
dire hinge
Okay thank you. And in terms of the AOE prio for execute where does it fit in th...
for Colossus AoE it's basically your lowest piority, unless you're sniping Executioner's Precision Stacks off of targets (which is still quite low priority)
lean geode
If you have to do a mechanic during execute phase which forces you downtime from...
Me forcing the RL to spend 15 minutes reassigning my portal in queen p2 so I could bladestorm second platform 🙂
thick kelp
Me forcing the RL to spend 15 minutes reassigning my portal in queen p2 so I cou...
Not your fault he gave you an illegal assignment
lean geode
My karma for getting blue team on court
Brain off just vibing for 250 pulls
No responsibility whatsoever, just zug
crude bridge
for Colossus AoE it's basically your lowest piority, unless you're sniping Execu...
Ok so probably still Molten strike and overpower over execute in your prio in aoe? Even with sweeping strikes up or down?
spring vale
This isn't a standalone weakaura but this package tracks a bunch of things that you would normally care about:
Executioner's Precision
Colossal Might
Martial Prowess
to name a few
dire hinge
Ok so probably still Molten strike and overpower over execute in your prio in ao...
You can check out the AoE priority here for Colossus, i refer to this usually when trying to figure out specific placement questions: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#multitarget
spring vale
There's a bit of redundancy in my UI because my debuffs are also showing on top of the target frame but sometimes my eyes are looking at the weakaura and sometimes the unit frame so it helps me
crude bridge
You can check out the AoE priority here for Colossus, i refer to this usually wh...
Oh perfect, so execute fits in between molten strike and overpower but only when sweeping strikes is up
dire hinge
There's a bit of redundancy in my UI because my debuffs are also showing on top ...
whatever works for you and your brain ❤️
dire hinge
Oh perfect, so execute fits in between molten strike and overpower but only when...
and if everything above it is unavailable yeah
thick kelp
AoE boils down to keeping cleave on cd and pressing random shit between it
crude bridge
You can check out the AoE priority here for Colossus, i refer to this usually wh...
This priority list isn't necessarily your opener tho correct? Because I think you do a couple of your CD's in a different order than what's listed in that prio right?
spring vale
Speaking of AoE, during Sweeping Strikes, do all of Demolish's hits get copied onto a second target or everything but the final hit?
thick kelp
everything but final
dire hinge
This priority list isn't necessarily your opener tho correct? Because I think yo...
Correct this isn't an opener
spring vale
ty Walhe
balmy kindle
Any talent builds for ST colossus ? Not sure to run battle lord or juggernaut
spring vale
hate jugg
crude bridge
Correct this isn't an opener
This may Be a dumb question, but in m+ what should I be pressing as filler bullshit while my tank is pulling mobs and getting them rounded up before I drop my cd's?
visual fern
Don't really want to play col on raw ST since slayer is better
balmy kindle
Mb just updated
visual fern
But if you really want to, prob BL
thick kelp
Juggernaut for colossus
spring vale
This whole thing with with Execute being nerfed (and therefore jugg losing some value) reminds me a bit of last season where unholy in M+ could just go no apoc build because 1. it was annoying with how long the ghouls took to actually do something 2. it felt like shit to play compared to the no apoc build. Sure Jugg is objectively stronger but Blord feels so nice to play even if it ends up being a loss
dire hinge
This may Be a dumb question, but in m+ what should I be pressing as filler bulls...
Cleave and Overpower, get them deep wounds spread around, Clap for rend, etc
crude bridge
Cleave and Overpower, get them deep wounds spread around, Clap for rend, etc
is there a talent that allows overpower to give deep wounds? or is it just cleave
dire hinge
Cleave/MS/Warbreaker.
I included overpower because it's free and doesn't really "cost" anything while you wait
good filler
spring vale
Gives you some Martial Prowess stacks and a little bit of damage through Dreadnaught
pale valve
I'm just gonna say one of the most random things ever having just coming back to the game. pressing warbreaker feels awful with taht animation
cloud grotto
I'm just gonna say one of the most random things ever having just coming back to...
I agree mate, doesn’t feel right
dire hinge
that's a pretty common opinion, that's okay ❤️
pale valve
ah cool, thought it was just me
crude bridge
that's a pretty common opinion, that's okay ❤️
random last thought, with your single target priority during execute phase, do you slam as a last filler if you dont have any overpowers and you dont have enough rage to execute?
dire hinge
nah, never ever touch slam in Execute Phase
it spends rage, which you want to pool to use on your next Execute instead
crude bridge
so what do you press if you have no rage and no overpowers to use
dire hinge
you walk out and charge back in, or just vibe or a second
cloud grotto
Charge weave, but I haven’t felt the need to yet
dire hinge
Slam would make the problem worse (because you could just Execute instead)
Execute can spend anywhere from 20-40 rage, doing linearly more damage with more rage it consumes, so even a 20-rage Execute will be better than a 20-rage Slam
thick kelp
if you run out of rage in execute you most likely missplayed by spamming execute too much
lunar remnant
@thick kelp you going fury for any fights tomorrow ?
split cairn
Do we still use execute after ther nerf?
spring vale
i would hope so
dire hinge
yeah, execute was very, very overpowered and the nerf makes it more inline with where it should have been
finite ginkgo
huys can anyone link me a s2 m+ weakaura?
thick kelp
<@865605822638063647> you going fury for any fights tomorrow ?
In the raid? on hc and normal, no Mythic? Maybe
rare kite
Do we still use execute after ther nerf?
Ofcourse. The nerf isn't very big
coarse nova
Are roots/slows a thing in mythic raid this tier? :>
midnight mural
Streaming or?
u subbed?
midnight mural
i can stream for u if u want
thick kelp
Streaming or?
noo
midnight mural
but wont stream mythic - just normal/hc 😄
boreal quartz
Idk what i can actually watch nowadays since work jail
So evenings prolly does work best
@midnight mural are yall still 2 day or mby 3 for wr push?
midnight mural
2 days, but first 3 weeks we do 3 days - still only 20:00-23:00 tho
boreal quartz
Respectable 🙏
dim basalt
People asking if we still use execute on a spec that is known for execute
Absolute cinema 
boreal quartz
People asking if we still use execute on a spec that is known for execute
The best iterations of previous expansions didnt use it heavily either
S2 SL arms
dim basalt
But in that case we wouldnt use execute talents
boreal quartz
I mean back then you had 2 talents 1 conduit for execute
dim basalt
dunno I just find it weird people dont read anything at all
Straight up ask without taking 10 seconds to look up any info
boreal quartz
But get mad at check the pins or read the guide comments
dim basalt
ye
boreal quartz
Average class discord activity
midnight mural
hmmm are servers up at 5 or 6 ST?..
orchid panther
@midnight mural where do you play nowadays?
gray knoll
Ho chums, can't see the guide mention it. Do we still play around tactician resets for buffing MS in execute while we still have S1 tier, or ignore that now like the rotation says and just do EP conditionals?
orchid panther
U gonna play warrior this tier ??
looks like it!
balmy kindle
Warrior or bust
orchid panther
everytime i consider warrior, i just fear fury ends up being the best
thick kelp
Ho chums, can't see the guide mention it. Do we still play around tactician rese...
You can ignore the season1 tierpiece now
naive sage
U gonna play warrior this tier ??
Not as main
magic canopy
median scroll
Respectable 🙏
🪤 come to us
midnight mural
everytime i consider warrior, i just fear fury ends up being the best
arms will fuck good if not nerfed week 1, trust
orchid panther
arms will fuck good if not nerfed week 1, trust
countin on it! missed this spec alot ngl
sour bane
Ignore pain is bad on arms as additional defensive? Or just healing from deep woulds is much better
gray knoll
You can ignore the season1 tierpiece now
Thanks very much
vapid pine
Does the Opportunist weakaura take into account priority during execute?
fresh spire
When new apl pushes in execute opportunist is your highest priority still so you always send when it procs
So through out fight when it procs you send it
dim basalt
Gonna love that 2x op 1x exe
vapid pine
When new apl pushes in execute opportunist is your highest priority still so you...
Ah ok chill, thanks
dim basalt
or that
abstract verge
Guys very technical question
Do you think is worth to PI arms in execute?
I have 3 priest in roster and we are planning the PI’s
midnight mural
Someone must have done the sims
vapid pine
It's in the sheet, not worth if you have any of the top 5 PI specs on a decent player
abstract verge
Someone must have done the sims
Cant find it but im sure they will
thick kelp
hmmm
midnight mural
But it's 100% worth it tho - trust me~~ (based on feelings)~~
abstract verge
It's in the sheet, not worth if you have any of the top 5 PI specs on a decent p...
Noted then
abstract verge
But it's 100% worth it tho - trust me~~ (based on feelings)~~
Ahahahahah
vapid pine
Last PI sim I saw was 150k for Unholy DK overall, which is more than 105k
thick kelp
But i mean specific in execute
You see the Slayer Execute
thats specifically in execute
abstract verge
U right good sir
hexed snow
Is season 2 out for NA?
gray herald
nope
slow saddle
what?
gray herald
what?
gray herald
Is season 2 out for NA?
In like 5-6 hours or so (depending on maintenance) probably more like 8-9
woven plume
Hey guys, new to arms, is it safe to entirely replace rend with thunderclap in m+? trying to reduce keybinds
hexed snow
I would say yes, but still have a rend keybind somewhere for when it's only a boss
weak rain
arms is deeeead
midnight mural
I would say yes, but still have a rend keybind somewhere for when it's only a bo...
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Thunder Clap] Thunder Clap; Rend
Use this - if you have Thunder clap talented, it will use Thunder clap. If you dont have TC talented, it will use rend.
lunar remnant
still if you want to be optimal rend should go on another bind but its very minimal
midnight mural
Sure, if you want to turbo-minmax single-target damage, while having also having thunder clap talented - but i think that the gain is so marginally low its not worth, *personally. *
lunar remnant
not sure if we should run Archi's talents from wowhead or Revve's talents from maxroll for Undermine, Archi runs colo first two bosses 🤔
woven plume
appreciate the input from everyone, I'll just replace it for now since my tiny fury brain is still working in all of the new buttons for the colossus multi target rotation and work in a seperate bind for rend later, thanks!
south merlin
What will u guys be doing in raid fights?
Alternate fury and arms?
lunar remnant
appreciate the input from everyone, I'll just replace it for now since my tiny f...
what I did when swapping was just run TC at first and when I got comfortable with the rotation I added a rend binding and started trying to remember to use on ST bosses etc.
silk spade
What will u guys be doing in raid fights?
Alternate fury and arms?
yeah
lunar remnant
What will u guys be doing in raid fights?
Alternate fury and arms?
check out Critcakes video he suggests specs per fight
looks to be like 4 fury fights and 4 arms
south merlin
check out Critcakes video he suggests specs per fight
Yeah I did watch yesterday update
But the thing is idk regarding the stats, is it enough to just switch neck and ring.
All my gear is stacked with Mastery, cause I played fury last season
Cause what he said in his video is to farm fury gear and keep ring, neck.
for arms to switch in raid fights
rare kite
But the thing is idk regarding the stats, is it enough to just switch neck and r...
Yes. Neck+ring is a ton of secondaries
south merlin
Ok but why to farm fury gear if will play arms in M+ ?
Farm arms gear and keep ring, neck, second weapon for fury in raid
Maybe cape also
brittle fiber
what mythic ring is going to replace circlet? blizzard and wowhead guides say a mythic track ring will replace circlet but nothing's really mentioned
we have ToP and motherlode rings
dim basalt
what mythic ring is going to replace circlet? blizzard and wowhead guides say a ...
any ring that sims better will do
as usual
sacred zodiac
probs the random stat one from raid but gl getting that lol
lucid gull
Any one of them you get with good stats, one would assume. Since it's a well-statted Mythic Track Ring specifically, no?
dim basalt
Theres no real BiS
sacred zodiac
realistically you're not replacing it until you're done with prog or like week 10+
thick kelp
brittle fiber
realistically you're not replacing it until you're done with prog or like week 1...
yea probs not, unless we get lucky with vault twice in a row
at least for M+
but yea i guess short answer is sim, rl's just asking for bis list
thick kelp
i posted buddy
dim basalt
Then they should check out each guide
dim basalt
Tho I find bis lists for anything other than trinkets and tier pieces stupid
brittle fiber
i posted buddy
yea i saw that, though i thought tww season 1 had a mix of raid and m+ bis, the overall bis list on wowhead just shows raid gear and crafts
brittle fiber
Tho I find bis lists for anything other than trinkets and tier pieces stupid
agreed
dim basalt
yea i saw that, though i thought tww season 1 had a mix of raid and m+ bis, the ...
Lots of stuff is coming from raid this season
glhf getting all 3 trinkets from raid
brittle fiber
real
thick kelp
I will be delving
rare kite
I will be delving
Sad times...(I will also be delving)
sacred zodiac
I will be delving
are you playing rav slayer or is it 100% fake
thick kelp
are you playing rav slayer or is it 100% fake
im playing it
sacred zodiac
cringe
rare kite
Also like 3 decent trinkets there right?
Idk about 3 but atleast 2, one of which is bis
rare kite
Slayer battlelord
sacred zodiac
its less cringe than bladestorm
execute is kind of cringe with rav up no
thick kelp
sacred zodiac
vs trivial 2ep ms
thick kelp
execute is kind of cringe with rav up no
naw you just weave exe and opportunist
untill rava stops
rare kite
execute is kind of cringe with rav up no
That's where rav gets value
sacred zodiac
this is still crigus
brittle fiber
i cant believe rav slayer is the tech but im all for it
brittle fiber
not like bladestorm lasts longer than 3 seconds anyways with juggernaut
sacred zodiac
is it actually a dps gain tho
rare kite
not like bladestorm lasts longer than 3 seconds anyways with juggernaut
You misunderstand what slayer does
weak wave
https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/arms/trinkets/castingpatchwerk
When will this be updated for S2?
brittle fiber
You misunderstand what slayer does
i do
thick kelp
https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/arms/trinkets/castingpatchwerk
When will t...
Probably today
who knows really
slow saddle
i mean even if loss in OVERALL dmg
dim basalt
Stop using bloodmallet 
slow saddle
if ravager is better in execute phase
its the phases that they said arms is more important anyways
weak wave
Stop using bloodmallet <a:ragey:1198213371154153484>
What's better?
dim basalt
sim yoself
weak wave
I don't know anything else
brittle fiber
are you not meant to cancel bladestorm to maintain juggernaut or
dim basalt
Also guides list trinkets
sacred zodiac
are you not meant to cancel bladestorm to maintain juggernaut or
juggernaut lasts 15 seconds wtf are you doing to drop it
weak wave
Also guides list trinkets
But not all if them
brittle fiber
juggernaut lasts 15 seconds wtf are you doing to drop it
getting a sudden death proc mid bladestorm
dim basalt
Why would you need all
thick kelp
are you not meant to cancel bladestorm to maintain juggernaut or
you would only bladestorm if you have 2EP and CS is upp
sacred zodiac
can you even cancel unhinged bladestorms
rare kite
Stop using bloodmallet <a:ragey:1198213371154153484>
Bloodmallet is fine for what it's used for. Getting a general feel of what's good(when updated)
sacred zodiac
it was cyclone that stopped it
thick kelp
i think it was cyclone
sacred zodiac
ya ok play different so u dont have to cancel an unhinged bladestorm
sacred zodiac
ive done it all season 1
please immediately stop doing that lmao
sacred zodiac
you are griefing yourself hard
dim basalt
You prob do more damage channeling bs through
brittle fiber
even at +10 stacks of juggernaut pre execute?
dim basalt
Well how do you know you can maintain the stacks
Or get any SD procs at all after that
sacred zodiac
no one else noticed
brittle fiber
you still BS outside of CS though in season 2 right? you usually get a bladestorm inbetween CS here n there
candid pecan
no
thick kelp
you still BS outside of CS though in season 2 right? you usually get a bladestor...
yes if your CS will not come off cooldown during your bladestorm channel
candid pecan
you play ravager 
thick kelp
outside of exec phase
sacred zodiac
more bladestorms > less bladestorms
brittle fiber
yea i go off the 5-6 delay
but john wielder's right i'm playing ravager this season and aggrend's gonna love it
daring heron
john wielder lmao
candid pecan
sacred zodiac
still not convinced until i see rwf play it
silk spade
it was cyclone that stopped it
noob
silk spade
true
sacred zodiac
herreal will smite you down
daring heron
ravager slayer one armed bandit shirley is happening
brittle fiber
ravager slayer one armed bandit shirley is happening
i saw your 11.1 parse on silken court lmfao
woven wasp
Hello 👋
thick kelp
ravager slayer one armed bandit shirley is happening
Stop recommending fury for Vexie when this exists
daring heron
is this slarms rav
silk spade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1345833646094942368/i...
her
thick kelp
It is slarms rav
weak rain
daring heron
think my assessment is okayge
dim basalt
How much less dps is slarms rav
slow saddle
bladestorms problem is mainly arms releying on multipliers so much
thick kelp
How much less dps is slarms rav
0
slow saddle
so it needs to be stronger on arms than fury to be worth
slow saddle
also eats more globalsd
brittle fiber
so it needs to be stronger on arms than fury to be worth
arms is doing higher 5 target damage atm
limpid hornet
What's the point playing Slayer if you're going to play Rav tho ? (real question)
brittle fiber
ah yea just saw your message above
hollow plover
think my assessment is okayge
you had a good assessment, but at the end of the day we'll see what performs better after 1 day of raids plus it really doesnt matter who has more vexie dmg day one
empty aspen
Is Legendary Skipper still bis for arms? (the ring citrine)
hollow plover
amen
hardy olive
Wait r we S Tier now?
hollow plover
Is Legendary Skipper still bis for arms? (the ring citrine)
sim it for your gear and find out
dim basalt
What's the point playing Slayer if you're going to play Rav tho ? (real question...
Not all nodes are useless
thick kelp
What's the point playing Slayer if you're going to play Rav tho ? (real question...
Because it does more damage than colossus
lusty burrow
we're talking bout this, yes?
thick kelp
yes
daring heron
you had a good assessment, but at the end of the day we'll see what performs bet...
ya, things'll become more clear as we see what's played in rwf
empty aspen
@hollow plover But it got nerfed.. And im not sure if it affects the arms list.. And i know it affected a lot of other lists
hollow plover
<@294878943004327952> But it got nerfed.. And im not sure if it affects the arms...
yea, so go sim it
empty aspen
hollow plover
it affects every set of gear / every character differently
empty aspen
What a time to be alive
candid pecan
Wait r we S Tier now?
hollow plover
ring change not simmable until NA maintenance is over btw
ring change isnt important until maintenance is over anyway
lusty burrow
same, slarms go clap.
cant wait to change everything (also eu here, so much wait)
hollow plover
legendary skipper included heal procs right?
if yes, i will stay skipper in mythic prog
limpid hornet
Not all nodes are useless
You're telling me Slayer with half nodes is better ? Sounds weird
empty aspen
legendary skipper included heal procs right?
Unsure if that got nerfed tho
(im not a arms main, asking for a friend)
hollow plover
Unsure if that got nerfed tho
it did get nerfed
dim basalt
You're telling me Slayer with half nodes is better ? Sounds weird
Sim numbers dont lie
quasi torrent
slayer rav slayer rav
empty aspen
Cause i see a lot of specs run the wind chime thingy instead
glossy dust
Does this mean we can stand in the coin line and not get stunned with spell reflect?
dim basalt
Does this mean we can stand in the coin line and not get stunned with spell refl...
It says reflectable no
Blockable is for prot war
quasi torrent
me when i dont read the FAQ
empty aspen
@hollow plover also i appreciate the pfp, am a big Kaiden enjoyer too
limpid hornet
Sim numbers dont lie
Alright thanks i'll look into that, missed a lot info not playing the last patch
hollow plover
<@294878943004327952> also i appreciate the pfp, am a big Kaiden enjoyer too <:g...
its casein nitrate lil bro
thick kelp
Colossus is 2.5% behind Ravager Slayer
hollow plover
/ j
glossy dust
Ohh thank you, didnt know that abt blockable. tyty
empty aspen
its casein nitrate lil bro
Real and based
slow saddle
and slayer ravager is 100% the choice if only execute phase is important ?
thick kelp
Basically yeah
thick kelp
Altho Ravager Slayer in my current gear sims within 0.0% so im walking into raids tomorrow with it
slow saddle
and if execute doesnt matter u should prob play fury?=
thick kelp
cuz fuck bladestorm
hollow plover
ravager slayer also just feels better ngl, being afk for 6 seconds feels like shit
hollow plover
and if execute doesnt matter u should prob play fury?=
you should play what you're more useful on