arms

[cloud gyro]

You cant, get your 2-3 veteran pieces and upgrade them

[smoky kayak]

crafting, delves, M+

actually you can get a whole set of 629 on alts this week without much effort
and then next week you can start farming the seasonal activities for higher

[cloud gyro]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/three-pieces-of-item-level-645-pieces-of-gear-available-this-week-prepare-for-375256

Also this is bugged so do 2x old content weekly world boxes before going to the new zone

[smoky kayak]

wasn't bugged for me

[cloud gyro]

Thats very lucky!

[smoky kayak]

I'm not sure it's luck, more likely either they fixed w/e the problem was fairly early, or w/e issue people had was more invasive than "do old content before new"

[native kite]

Can we still do s1 keys?

[cloud gyro]

They didnt fix it early, the only way to ensure getting 2x items is doing old first

[smoky kayak]

early as in "before I did it"

[cloud gyro]

One of the boxes in new zone counts for a veteran piece box without giving one

[smoky kayak]

I understand, again - it worked correctly for me

which suggests they either fixed the issue before I did it, or the actual issue is more technically invasive and not affecting everyone equally

[cloud gyro]

I did it yesterday evening and it didnt work then

[smoky kayak]

see previous comment lol

[cloud gyro]

So luck

[smoky kayak]

also to be clear, you don't get a 645 piece

[quartz adder]

Wait can u craft full free 629?

[smoky kayak]

you get a 623 1/8 which upgrades to 645

[smoky kayak]

call it w/e you want man, I'm just saying it's not as clear cut as "do old content first" and I'm done with this seemingly pointless conversation

[cloud gyro]

New content is bugged, old content isnt, so thats the only way you can be sure to get both pieces

Pretty simple

[smoky kayak]

again, not for me

which means it's not just universally bugged

[cloud gyro]

Whatever that means

[smoky kayak]

it means exactly what it means

[ocean socket]

I know that I have done the Urge to Surge, Speading the Light and Special Assignment and got 1, going to do Awakening the Machine to see if I get the second Veteran piece

[cloud gyro]

🫡 u are already bricked

[ocean socket]

oh well its the difference of like 1 M+

realistically zero impact

[shadow ibex]

I did two veteran chests only got one veteran item in my bag

[cloud gyro]

From new zone right?

[shadow ibex]

One was the delivery quest other was play bullshit

[cloud gyro]

Yea i think its the delivery one thats bugged

[fervent hornet]

Havent played since 11.0.7 should i farm the ring?

[smoky kayak]

I think it's technically like 6 pieces or something, but you can craft 629 with weathered undermine crests and you can even get extra crests above cap from season 1 renown quartermasters

[pliant vessel]

on how many targets i use cleave?

[smoky kayak]

2

[pliant vessel]

okii thx

[ocean socket]

probably, its likely to be nerfed but no guarantee on when or how much

[smoky kayak]

yes, it's very quick

[pliant vessel]

2+ i dont use slam yeah?

[smoky kayak]

Cleave will auto-cast Slam w/ FoB

and you'll practically never have cleave without FoB

[pliant vessel]

FoB = ?

[meager timber]

Funyuns or bust

[devout pewter]

Full of Beans

[meager timber]

Fervor of battle reystar

[devout pewter]

For the love of God I can't remember the name lmao

Ah yeah

[pliant vessel]

ah ok

MS prio on AoE too or nah?

[torn rivet]

hello brozos how's the state of arms rn?

[meager timber]

lol I just want to make a comment ultimately no one will care about but I makes me feel good. Never thought id play arms but picked it up randomly last week and am hooked now. This is possibly one of the only classes left in game where every ability FEELS like you are using your weapons lol. Unholy DH I stand and point at mob holding a 2h over and over, survival I’m throwing a bomb, shooting a xbow point at mob for pet to attack and barely swinging my weapon. The old school really does FEEL great

[spark mango]

yeah gio fuck fury man

@tacit crystal

[quaint otter]

Owns as always

[marble steppe]

i was trying some prot keys and demolish hits harder as a tank spec x)

[tough steppe]

After so long 1 season i'm back to Arms once again

[torn rivet]

Based

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/fair-weather-fans-49ers-vs-packers-football-win-victory-gif-16147091

[tough steppe]

sus

@smoky kayak "Fury Warriors"

[quaint otter]

[devout pewter]

Arms, the new fury

[tiny dock]

so hows warrior looking for s2, should I feel bad for playing boomkin rn

[devout pewter]

Yes

[gaunt owl]

you should always feel bad for playing boomkin

[slow saddle]

100%

[void bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2Xq8fCNI8

[tiny dock]

i had to for the guild in s1

been playing warr since wotlk

[slow saddle]

Well boomie is still very good

[tiny dock]

yeah, warr my first love though

[granite pike]

is there an experienced arms warrior that could give me a 30 minutes disc lesson on this tier. Only played fury. i'll trade some gold for it. DM me

[slow saddle]

Pve rly m8 save the gold

Just look at guide

[sharp rivet]

My preconceived ideas about arms, I haven't played it much before, are that it is lower apm than fury but more punishing if you make a mistake. Is this right?

[slow saddle]

Not that.much lower no

[sharp rivet]

oh so still carpel tunnel inducing?

What's the upside, if it is indeed more punishing if you make a mistake? Or is that also wrong.

[flat willow]

fury is harder to play than arms this patch

[sharp rivet]

I've always seen Arms as a mysterious dark art and so am tempted to learn it.

harder - why/how? This is what i wanted to hear but good to know more detail if you are able to share.

[olive nest]

Fury is harder to play right now if your goal is to perfect the rotation when considering all the conditionals for ability priority

If you don’t give a shit about that it’s still just press BT on CD rampage as much as possible and raging blow when you can’t do either

[void bay]

it's just clunky to me....whereas fury plays more like a rogue....fast flowing and always something to press....but im no expert

[sharp rivet]

Brewjj did you mean arms plays more like rogue?

[flat willow]

Arms right now is straightforward, you keep your rend on the target, send your cds, overpower if procs > MS > overpower > slam, fury has a lot of procs and conditionals that change the priority regularly

[olive nest]

I don’t play rogue so I’m not sure how they compare

[sharp rivet]

@brewjj sorry i meant to ask brad.. apologies

[olive nest]

But arms is just understanding what ability has the highest priority so that way you cast the right one when multiple are available

I guess that’s most classes tbf

[sharp rivet]

ok they have similarly timed cd's? i think back in the day Arms had longer cd's so if you used them at the wrong time in a key you would pay the price whereas fury's came back more often.

I'm going to learn arms 🙂 Will go look up some guides!

[olive nest]

Fury plays AM again so you’ll have cds every 30 seconds or so

Arms is 1:30 avatar and the rest come back quicker and are not synced well

[sharp rivet]

ok this is VERY attractive because if i mess up I know i get it back soon.

[rigid ravine]

We're not playing sks this tier AFAIK so arms is a lot smoother. Just adjust weakauras for rend timeouts

[sharp rivet]

ok cool thanks

[dim basalt]

No SKS is a blessing

[sharp rivet]

I'm going to give arms a good go - looking forward to being back in the warrior community.

[olive nest]

[glossy tusk]

mortal strike numero uno? am i wrong play are is?

[olive nest]

M+?

[glossy tusk]

yeah

mortal strike pumping

[dim basalt]

Cleave and Demo should be above MS

[olive nest]

If you were like heavily focusing MS into priority targets then sure

But otherwise cleave should be top

For peak overall

[native kite]

On bigger pulls, like 8+ do we bother thunderclapping more then once to rend everything?

[sharp rivet]

guys who has made the best arms rotation video guides? I struggle a bit with wowhead and all that.

[jaunty minnow]

Critcake M+

[olive nest]

Sweep* to get more targets

[dim basalt]

I dont think theres a youtube content creator for Arms

With actual guides

[sharp rivet]

argh 😦

[dim basalt]

This spec is pretty dead

[sharp rivet]

ok i will try to decode wowhead then

[jaunty minnow]

Critcake, Biz, etc..

[dim basalt]

They dont make guides

[sharp rivet]

Sarcasm....

[dim basalt]

No it is lol

[pallid oasis]

Mad Ox has a good 11.1 arms guide rn

[sharp rivet]

tyvm will go check it out.

[olive nest]

+1 Maddox

[native kite]

would this prio change then?

[dim basalt]

Well, it was until tier lists got released that people believe

[jaunty minnow]

Updated by Critcake since it was wrong - check youtube comments

[gusty nymph]

is it me or might is not stacking as fast as it used to with ravager?

[olive nest]

Yeah I like to charge and Sweep mid charge before doing cleave/tc

[pallid oasis]

oh yeah check comment for Collosus AoE opener update 👍

[sharp rivet]

idgaf about tier lists tbh - i just lost my main tank spot due to having to miss the next 4 weeks of raids and that has left me open to pick any dps i want.. and warrior has the best class fantasy for me so here i am. Is arms fotm or something?

[native kite]

Makes sense yea, thanks

[jaunty minnow]

Arms = life

[olive nest]

Smaller collateral pop this way though technically

[sharp rivet]

THIS is why i want to play warrior again - THE most loyal to their class bunch of crazy people is warriors.

[dim basalt]

Arms and Fury are really well tuned right now so people are hopping on the meta train

[sharp rivet]

ok now your comment makes sense to me 🙂

[jaunty minnow]

These warriors have earned title every time so far....

[olive nest]

Warrior since bfa s4

Love me some warrior

[rare kite]

i wouldn't call arms fotm, tho it is very strong atm. in general arms is just not a very popular spec, even when blatantly overpowered

[sharp rivet]

makes me want to play it more 🙂 thanks!

[olive nest]

Don’t worry everyone will get there tiersets right after they nerf us and then we won’t be “fotm”

[native kite]

So if we prio collateral, ud not bother with clapping more then once i take it?

[sharp rivet]

off to google maddox so i dont annoy you with terrible basic questions. But thanks for this guys - REALLY appreciate it and im happy!

[rare kite]

the second fury becomes a near top spec it becomes fotm tho

[olive nest]

Pretty much yeah you wouldn’t bother clapping again unless you run out of OP and cleave

[jaunty minnow]

Arms is a spec where it does well... and then once you unlock your brain, you can really really do well.

[thick kelp]

https://youtu.be/dZaiZEnlE_M?si=Td-eWoUlv8sv1yZb

[olive nest]

Really it depends how long the pack lives because you do want to maintain rend, I’m just thinking during the sweep/MBG window

[jaunty minnow]

As noted the AOE Opener is wrong in video - check comments.

[native kite]

yea maybe clap more given the pack lives long enough, allthough i doubt there are many pulls with longer sustained dmg needed

[native kite]

its a pretty straightforward specc with quite a few nuances, its weird getting used to after i dont know how many years of fury

[rigid ravine]

If you're doing keys this week. A +13 is a pretty good level to practice things. Packs live a little less than a full rend timing if rest of the group is competent

[tidal moth]

Crit did explain all talents + rotation in last ptr update

[pseudo crow]

there is a new 2 weapon craft or it's claymore 675 the bis craft weapon ?

[rigid ravine]

All 2h weapon crafts are basically the same they're just aesthics

[pseudo crow]

maybe there is a new patron loot on raid, i don't know ^^'

[olive nest]

Crafted 2h is the play

[native kite]

As someone that doesnt raid, im guessing the 2h is bis regardless. up until we get the dinars going

[olive nest]

You’ll use that for atleast 2 months unless you’re hall of fame raiding and get lucky with a Best in Slots 2h drop

[dim basalt]

Dinars are coming with 11.1.5 tho

Thats like at least 2-3 months

[native kite]

ye but since im not raiding and if my luck keeps up from S1, i wont get any weapons in vault

[olive nest]

Id craft weapon personally no matter what the situation is

[rare kite]

@daring heron hello critcake, what embellishment are you running? also is arms or fury better in 11.1 thank you

[olive nest]

@daring heron hello critcake, what embellishment are you running? also is arms or fury better in 11.1 thank you

[radiant gale]

is the Faq questions / talents updated here ?

[untold pewter]

Bro... Don't

[pseudo crow]

no chance to have the bis 2h on the vault ? or i will w8 the dinar thing ?

[tacit crystal]

@daring heron hi what do i buy with my Antique Bronze Bullion, which fire ring, or trinket or do i upgrade my axe??????????????????????

[rigid ravine]

There's a chance if you do raid but from an ilvl perspective crafted weapon is always gonna be better till you get a myth track one

[olive nest]

@untold pewter

Wow reply auto tagged you

[pseudo crow]

yes, but can i have the mythic bis in the vault ?

[olive nest]

Nice nice

[rigid ravine]

Unless you kill the boss on mythic that drops it it won't show up on your mythic slots

[tacit crystal]

hi what do i buy with my Antique Bronze Bullion, which fire ring, or trinket or do i upgrade my axe??????????????????????

[pseudo crow]

thanks for answer ! it's specifically for weapon and trinket ?

[arctic fjord]

all items except tier pieces I believe

[tough steppe]

Bullion is for Dragonflight equipment, we're on The War Within already

[olive nest]

Save your dinars for fyralath!!!
Don’t be fooled!!!!

[sharp rivet]

sorry for the slow reply - was just wathcing it 🙂 Thanks!

[sharp rivet]

oh glad i saw this

[rigid ravine]

Yea

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[rigid ravine]

Anyone have data on the transition from old 4pc to new 2pc/4pc etc

[thick kelp]

you should sim it but

2pc is pretty safe to put on to play old new 2p2p

[tacit crystal]

hi

[sharp rivet]

haven't watched the vid yet so apologies if it is covered - but can i use the new builds with the old 4p right away? I would prefer to so i can get used to any rotational changes.

[thick kelp]

yes

[rigid ravine]

Yeah I assumed the wowhead guide was right about when to break just wanted the data to maybe get prio

[rigid ravine]

The tier sets don't really change our gameplay so send it

[sharp rivet]

cool thx.

[quaint otter]

NOXIAN GUILOTIN DEEZ NUTS

[upper pumice]

Hi all, I am new to arms. Any Tipps for me which abilities to macro together? Also I ready that we do not use rend and hit thunder clap instead. Is that info correct? Thx

[rare kite]

no macroing together. very bad

[thick kelp]

no macro

youj can clap over rend for small loss in ST

[rare kite]

also yeah you can just use tclap instead of rend to save a keybind if you want. tiny gain to rend on st

[icy mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316537535736053820/1316543654713622621/wolf-dancing_test.gif

[upper pumice]

Thx guys

[lunar remnant]

I’m averaging like 2m+ overall why am I still getting declined to +8s? This some warrior racism..

[thick kelp]

average wow player hates browns

[lunar remnant]

Fuck this LFG simulation I’m gonna actually go play a game (MH wilds)

[upper pumice]

I feel that

[pseudo crow]

On exec rota, it's MS with 2 stacks executioner's precision or OP with opportunist the prio ? It's not the same on wowhead and Warbreaker discord

[fierce meadow]

A decent macro if you’re hurting for keybind space is add either rend or slam to your charge since you’ll either be in charge range or melee range so it will do whichever is appropriate

[crystal umbra]

I like to use the impending victory/charge macro personally.

[devout pewter]

Doesn't that tend to use Rend/Slam anytime you charge as well? (at least on closer targets for example) Which wouldn't be really ideal, especially with Slam?

[tacit crystal]

you missed 5 warrior keys 😦

[tacit crystal]

?

[fierce meadow]

I like IV as its own thing so I can see the CD on it. And it will if you spam the macro, if you 1 tap or queue up your first attack mid charge it’s okay, can be troublesome at minimum charge distance if you spam

[rare kite]

if you're in melee range it uses that ability, if outside it charges

[shadow ibex]

Put everything on charge

Hamstring charge IV charge

[minor gust]

Put charge on charge

[shadow ibex]

Put intervene on charge

Only for the bravest among you

Scaredy cats need not apply

[orchid panther]

i wonder if hc best-in-slots will be better than a 675 crafted wep

[tacit crystal]

sim it

[minor gust]

Yes a HC BIS is slightly better than a crafted wep

[shadow ibex]

Burn it

[icy mulch]

I was prolly playing hockey when you guys ran it. lol

Now I'm just really tired and sore. We won 7-4 though. Made a couple huge glove saves.

[floral ledge]

hello ladies

do u think we will gona be nerf on wednesday ?

or other classe will get an up

[icy mulch]

I think we're fine. Yeah, we're strong but so are a lot of other classes.

[visual fern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772661761823866881/1334709436501069896/image.png?ex=67c31747&is=67c1c5c7&hm=134a2bdf637156498c1c21187f3ff19bc40a09d91a9e9d8429edf45bf9e27b86&

[shadow ibex]

good point

[rough needle]

good point

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-1570599340039365094

[floral ledge]

good point

[minor gust]

We made it to live but will we make it to raid start

[upper pumice]

Why do they not nerf shaman btw? I dont want them to but cmon... they were meta in all specs last season and are still in dps...

[rough needle]

https://tenor.com/view/magic8ball-simpsons-outlook-not-so-good-gif-13606372

[shadow ibex]

This would be the first time in like 8 years

[icy mulch]

I had to spend some valorstones as I got capped.

[quaint otter]

Deez

[dire copper]

Was that out of the weekly zone quest?

[steep osprey]

went to check damage overall on cata

and we had a legendary axe that did significatly less than this

[shadow ibex]

61 HS

So 1 every second

[slow saddle]

40 slams

[shadow ibex]

40 slams and less than melee

[olive nest]

I would venture to say yes

[shadow ibex]

I'm kinda sad we didn't get buff to auto attacks

[slow saddle]

oppertunity strikes was the mastery r?

[soft viper]

yes, a free swing on attacks. was weak. i loved it lol

it was like slayer strike before slayer strike

[slow saddle]

well obviously it wasnt weak

its 4th

on his overall dmg

[void bay]

one of the major things I loved from vanilla was windfury....the classic windfury, where you just had like a 40% chance to one shot something

[shadow ibex]

In DS gear it's gonna proc a lot cuz you have end of expac mastery

[void bay]

not very interactive though

[slow saddle]

ye it was obviously a balancing nightmare

but fun 🙂

[steep osprey]

yeah it isn't weak

it also procs rage

from the strikes

[somber geyser]

This is an opportunist proc right? Why does the blizzard proc indicator seem to be consumed/disappear when I use execute, even though I retain the opportunist proc on my buff bar?

[steep osprey]

I think it's Tactitian proc

When OP resets

[somber geyser]

Ok I was also looking at that, but I dont understand why it disappears every time I use execute lol

[minor gust]

the visual doesnt last long as its meant for tactician procs

[candid pecan]

[somber geyser]

Okay that actually must be it

https://tenor.com/view/dented-pepe-dentge-meme-hit-gif-15873918808390144538

[pseudo crow]

the 2 target rotation is the same of 1 target but with sweeping strikes right ?

[minor gust]

yes

[boreal quartz]

exe costs 40 and 40 rage is a decent chance to reset

[magic canopy]

The animation disappears but you retain the opportunist but after

[somber geyser]

i am learning

[magic canopy]

The animation only stays for like 2-3 seconds since it's a tactican proc not the opportunist buff

[minor gust]

Hey hes saying what I said

[magic canopy]

I didn't read that far when I replied

[minor gust]

its ok you said it in a much smarter easier to understand way. My brain cant type well thought out stuff as I am dumb

[pseudo crow]

on aoe, collosus > slayer right ? So no interest to train slayer aoe rotation no ?

[minor gust]

yes colossus has better aoe

[shadow ibex]

Slayer praying for reap procs

Couldn't be me

[minor gust]

pretty high atleast with cleave in aoe

[winter flume]

What is the best simming race for s2?

[minor gust]

[slow saddle]

what ever has the best mogs

[quaint otter]

vulpera

[deft girder]

rofl.

[shadow ibex]

Shameful

[thick hamlet]

yo what the hell happened

[minor gust]

11.0

[quaint otter]

[reef glade]

he is unaware

[minor gust]

🫃

[reef glade]

what the fuck

[last inlet]

[shadow ibex]

Bro what

[candid pecan]

uhm, uhm..... guys

[thick hamlet]

umm

excuse me

[candid pecan]

oh no, OH NONO

[shadow ibex]

He is unaware

[thick hamlet]

it would seem that i've made a great error

[shadow ibex]

Lmao

[last inlet]

lol

[minor gust]

[thick hamlet]

you all passed the test, congratulations

[heavy scaffold]

are sims borked? thunderlord's citrine is adding 100k dps for me

[shadow ibex]

Ring is op

[heavy scaffold]

ye but everyone is playing the all stat one

[shadow ibex]

I wonder when they will nerf it. Probably after race at this point ig

[minor gust]

Dont ask me ask discord

[shadow ibex]

When we get a few raid buff

[tacit crystal]

🫃

[minor gust]

if theres no tuning today I have a feeling we wont get any till after race

[tacit crystal]

me when rwf have enough players to change rosters if shit gets nerfed on tuesday

[minor gust]

it happened this tier. We got notes on the Friday before raid release. Unless im not remembering correctly

[tacit crystal]

before m raid release ya

[minor gust]

there is potential then!

[tacit crystal]

I think we probably get more tuning on tuesday but not after

[deft girder]

"they gotta nerf enhance!"

[unborn canyon]

[severe haven]

yes

[unborn canyon]

hey, we dont bring as much utility

its fine

[tacit crystal]

take off that hat bud

[unborn canyon]

[reef glade]

poor guy is 4th instead of 1st for 15 weeks 😢

[unborn canyon]

hey, maybe they just buff everyone else

[tacit crystal]

didnt they say yellow was bad or?

[unborn canyon]

[reef glade]

what

[unborn canyon]

though tier sets might even things out more

BM really low on that, and dont they get like 30% from their new tier set?

[olive nest]

Excited for the over react nerfs!

[tacit crystal]

should i play yellow as alt

[olive nest]

Rogue can be cool sure

[calm kernel]

Anything been mentioned on when we swap out tier pieces? Do we need to wait for full 4pc before swapping or go 2:2 when its available?

[candid pecan]

sim with robot, if robot say swap, trust robot

[rare kite]

for m+ yea. for raid no

rogue so boring in raid

[minor gust]

they wont spring it up on patch day they usually give time

[unborn canyon]

im coping that maybe they just wait for tier set performance, which might even things out

[tacit crystal]

when i app'd to ish's guild i said i played rogue

[zenith warren]

is job streak still bugged on live btw?

[split cairn]

I know arms is on paper higher dps, but for some reason I just can't get it, the rotation feels really clunky and all over the place, just me? Lol

[sullen ingot]

We did it boys, the top

we made it

[unborn canyon]

maybe blizz will let us live like they did enhance

they have posted multiple times that they are happy where warrior is at

[rare kite]

no, not just you. the spec is clunky

does alot of damage tho

[robust ridge]

Feels a little less clunky this season, at least ST

M+ still as clunky as ever

[dim basalt]

I lowkey like the M+ build as it is

And the whole gameplay around it

[rain cipher]

When I send avatar. I get 4 sec Reck buff.. Why not 6 sec as per the tooltip?

[dim basalt]

My buff is 6 seconds

[rain cipher]

nevermind.. my bad.. it is 6 sec

[pseudo crow]

On vexie, you are gonna use 2ST or Cleave talent ?

[dim basalt]

Probably just ST because adds are rarely stacked

[tender jolt]

hey, thinking of switching from fury to arms, anyone got any usefull WA's or tips? 🙂

[winter flume]

Shut your ass up man

[dim basalt]

[rain cipher]

how can i create a WA that show rend icon with glow when the remaining duration is less than 6 seconds or the target has no rend debuff?

for now, i have 2 WAs positioned on top of each other.. first one for the remaining duration only and the other one show up when there is no debuff 😅

[minor gust]

the trick is to steal a rend WA from someone else

[rocky ruin]

Got this one: https://wago.io/bPZWWDJ2G

[rain cipher]

lol.. he is doing the same thing.. 2 WAs on top of each other 🤣

[rocky ruin]

Ah, thats right! I just only read the 1st line of your comment xD

[rain cipher]

thanks anyway ❤️

[visual fern]

Grow up

Or blow up

[visual fern]

What about it

[last inlet]

new logs when you swap to 11.1

[visual fern]

My bad we'll go 11.0, sorry

Yah I'm saying enh been OP

[last inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-spongebob-meme-i-don't-get-it-confused-gif-12091655509524369436

oh

now i get it

[minor gust]

No Garms you have to goto 11.05

[visual fern]

Last time warrior that op without instantly getting shot was.....

https://tenor.com/bepZm.gif

[last inlet]

yeah my bad

xD

carry on, ill just eat my krabby patty now

[visual fern]

https://tenor.com/boAaO.gif

[last inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-drool-gif-27334304

[brittle fiber]

My tip is to be good at both. So many fights in raid are just better for fury cleave compared to arms

[tender jolt]

yeah fair enough, i feel like im good at fury, downed 4/8M and was getting ~90 parses

but the stat weights are quite diff to fury, guess ill just be practicing a bit! haha

[brittle fiber]

I think for arms just expect to go a lot more slower, sit on a dummy for a bit and get to understand your procs and ms builders. @magic canopy Has a really good video for starting arms

With some pretty good was in the link

Oh i didnt mean to tag him whoops

He’s gonna ban me now

[minor gust]

Madox for green

[tender jolt]

thats what ive kinda been struggling with, just finding out what to push and when as arms, i will def check out his videos, i learn a lot better off watching than reading haha

[lament elbow]

⚰️

[minor gust]

there it is

knew there would be notes today

[rich kernel]

ok so I thought the mastery was called grevious wounds, but its deep wounds. Did it change or did I just mandela effect myself?

[hollow plover]

lol

[charred brook]

lol

[quaint otter]

Back to reality

[rain cipher]

hit us hard when our tier set is not that good 😦

[brittle fiber]

Colossus stay winning

It’s secretly a colossus buff guys

[minor gust]

its a decent nerf

hits slayer more than it does colossus

[mighty lance]

But still sad

[neon jasper]

ready for the new critcake patch notes update video

[quaint otter]

Ready to doom

[candid kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/condestável-condestavel-wojak-doomer-wojak-scary-wojak-gif-12758665197812043739

[spring rune]

amen!

[stable sapphire]

o no arms is dead

saj

[brittle fiber]

Someone check critcake’s blood pressure over the past few weeks

[rich ridge]

Nooooo

[rigid ravine]

blow up

[quaint otter]

[spring rune]

how much of our dmg was execute anyways

[mighty lance]

They did it again, designing the raidfights around warrior and nerf warrior because of it

[spring rune]

like none

[balmy kindle]

lol nothing burger

[fresh spire]

[rich ridge]

I’m going back to fury

[quaint otter]

Like a lot

30% ig in raid

[brittle fiber]

That would imply there’s a warrior dev

[rancid solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/christian-bale-american-psycho-brutal-gif-27087018

[steel furnace]

legs got 15% stronger

[marsh blaze]

I mean lets be honest, they could have nerfed way harder

[brittle fiber]

They will

[onyx robin]

lets just hope this is the only tunning we get

[brittle fiber]

It wont be

[minor gust]

this will be the last until RWF is over

[severe haven]

link

[rare kite]

we take this nerf, colossus closing in

[minor gust]

Destro is getting buffed is sad these damn warlocks cant keep getting away with sandbagging

for buffs

[rich ridge]

Look at the news channel

[coral crescent]

from 3 big booms to 3 big dooms

[rancid solstice]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/season-2-class-tuning-incoming-march-4th-375381

[umbral gyro]

We need to cry more

[severe haven]

this is so fucked up actually

[rich kernel]

.

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-fed-up-done-upset-angry-gif-15272547

[brittle fiber]

Tbh chaos bolt should be hitting like a truck, the fact they shyed away from that concept and tried evening out their damage profile felt off

[brittle fiber]

Aaron Paul for 45 minutes in the lastest invincible episode

[severe haven]

it kinda already did but if u instead did rain of fire u got a couple % increase

i dont think it warranted a fucking +%20

[hardy marten]

Weren't locks casting rain of fire on ST? That's how bad chaos bolt was at some point

[sage badge]

Napkin math shows this tuning to be around 3.7%~

[severe haven]

only if u wanted to be hyper optimal

this is overbuffs

[sage badge]

2.93 to like 2.82

[tacit crystal]

w nerfs

[hexed saddle]

nothing burger nerf

[minor gust]

yee the nerf is gonna be small in the overall

[hexed saddle]

no crying

no tears

[tacit crystal]

we running it back tn

[zealous pivot]

does this mean fury is simming higher now?

[minor gust]

Arms gonna keep its power in M+ aswell cuz you rarely hit exe as colossus

[coral crescent]

Is enhance deadge at least?

[hexed saddle]

nah prob not

[tacit crystal]

[midnight kraken]

[brittle fiber]

All i see is a 3.7% colossus buff 😎😎😎😎

[tacit crystal]

hi

[sacred zodiac]

arms is dead cant believe blizzard would allow brown man to be good for 2 picoseconds im rerolling ret for mythic prog new comp 20 ret

[swift crown]

Arms is dead cant believe Blizzard would allow brown man to be good for 2 picoseconds im rerolling ret for mythic prog

[daring flicker]

arms is dead cant believe blizzard would allow brown man to be good for 2 picoseconds im rerolling ret for mythic prog new comp 20 ret

[eager sigil]

colossus even closer now to slayer

[minor gust]

arms is dead cant believe blizzard would allow brown man to be good for 2 picoseconds im rerolling ret for mythic prog new comp 20 ret

[devout zinc]

arms is dead cant believe blizzard would allow brown man to be good for 2 picoseconds im rerolling ret for mythic prog new comp 20 ret

[quaint otter]

[ivory quartz]

hi crit

[visual fern]

Yah but how big of a nerf in execute phase

[daring flicker]

2 billion dps nerf. cant play brown class anymore

[boreal igloo]

Are you suppose to MS>OP if ur stacks aren’t at 2 or if oppo isnt up?

[wooden lava]

[halcyon valve]

warrior isnt allowed to have nice things

[mighty lance]

And now we want roar buffs, 50% increased damage

[brittle fiber]

Let roar die

[mighty lance]

Haha

[brittle fiber]

Bring back upfront damage

[minor gust]

next patch they will buff all our non core abillities

[halcyon valve]

increase spear crit dmg bonus to 70%. we gamble

[brittle fiber]

Im sick of dot warrior!!!

[minor gust]

and well rotate between buffing thats how warrior scales!

[mighty lance]

What about huge bs

[covert spear]

does the execute balance nerf mean were back to skullsplitter

[brittle fiber]

Huge bullshit, that’s what blizzard’s current warrior theory is

[quasi torrent]

u guys are fucking dense

[midnight jewel]

[minor gust]

No im solid

[tranquil tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230008337517514772/1273720854383165601/dead-arms.gif

[halcyon breach]

Wdym, warrior has exploded now?

[eager sigil]

[halcyon breach]

Unplayably bad

[mighty lance]

Hahaha

[rich ridge]

Arms dead

[brittle fiber]

Time to spam the forums

[covert spear]

issa small nerf. but figured id ask anyway

[severe haven]

its so fucking over

[halcyon breach]

It's essentially like having an M6 Ellen and you just pulled for a M0 Miyabi

[jolly pier]

ALL TO THE FORUMS!

[severe haven]

we are DONE

[midnight jewel]

5% I wouldve been okay with

15% its joever

[mighty lance]

We need to cry a lot, it helps

[quasi torrent]

fax frfr ong nc

[tacit crystal]

wtf does this mean

[severe haven]

dead and buried rerolled Ret right NOW

[brittle fiber]

I can already smell the reddit posts saying “yes keep nerfing warrior@

[halcyon breach]

he does not know

[severe haven]

english please

[sage badge]

About 6%~ if its a 3min execute sim

[pine furnace]

this nerf will be like 5 % st ?

[jolly pier]

wow head comments at goated

[tacit crystal]

i do not dough bc i dont play hoyo

[round warren]

blizz did the funny again

nerf right before release

after super buff

[tribal kindle]

why cant we stay good for like 1 week ??? its becouse we are brown and shaman is blue??????

[sudden fox]

Lmao its not THAT bad

[steep osprey]

are you guys serious

[sage badge]

Nerf in a 5 min patchwerk sim is around 3.7%~

[steep osprey]

[brittle fiber]

What about exe sim

[pine furnace]

not much

[mighty lance]

But imo the point is they could have nerfed anything but our baby, the execute phase.

[pine furnace]

its ok

[rain cipher]

3.7% is huge

[misty sandal]

[round warren]

mages were untouched btw

[sage badge]

In a 3min execute sim, it's about 6% nerf. From my napkin math. I'm sure we'll get accurate/exact numbers when Archi or Fishy put in the numbers in sims.

[misty sandal]

For now.

[sudden fox]

There will be more tuning as the week’s go on, stop dooming

[quaint otter]

Sim results: ARMS OWNS

[brittle fiber]

I mean fundamentally it’s not that but still hefty

[jolly pier]

augs complaining kekw

[minor gust]

[pine furnace]

3.7% still fine for me

still a tier A class

[round warren]

can't wait for first week of rwf

if a class is stacked hard they will nuke it out of orbit

[brittle fiber]

Whenever i read wowhead comments i get an impulsive urge to take a shower

[silk spade]

no u

[brittle fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-morpheus-agent-smith-its-the-smell-humanity-gif-11020686

[round warren]

lots of trolls who do rage bait in them

[sage badge]

The nerf kind of bridges the gap between slayer and colossus, too. Plus we'll still be good in m+

[jolly pier]

wowhead rage is the best part of patch notes

[round warren]

lots of pp suckers for blizz and a few albeit angry but correct statements

[mighty lance]

Wait till they see Warr tiersets arent that important compared to some other classes KEK

[round warren]

wowhead forums in a nutshell

[rapid bramble]

Gotta treat the internet like someone you find physically repulsive: never look at the bottom half 😬

[steep osprey]

Enha finally got getting nerfed properly

[severe haven]

wasnt bm really strong?

[round warren]

shamans had their season

[severe haven]

they got a +%10 buff

[round warren]

see them in 20 years again

[brittle fiber]

Ive never seen a positive comment on wowhead

[round warren]

[steep osprey]

Read the tier set nerf lol

It was doing 30% damage

For them

The tier set

[brittle fiber]

It’s always some 20 year old arguing like a 50 year old or vice versa

[steep osprey]

They got a compensation because they nerfed their big tier set

[brittle fiber]

The kind of people that go to reddit karma farming that they killed zekvir one week before season ends

[snow flame]

Execute was finally good better nerf it!

[quaint otter]

Lmao

[fringe moon]

based on current sims, not 11.1 gearing or anything, it's about a 3.5% nerf

[proven glen]

Wowhead comments are the players who legit just quest and “collect transmog” and cap out at +5s or whatever

[sage badge]

Yeah, I mentioned it was around 3.7% when I napkin math it. The 6%~ number is for execute specific sims

[hallow thorn]

it's bugged to all hell. one day, the boots were showing as main stat int, the next day they were str

[quasi torrent]

its a good nerf honestly

[hallow thorn]

not sure what's going on with it

[feral basin]

how close is fury to arms then in ST

despair

[last inlet]

they didn't touch MS yet, we are saved

[magic canopy]

prob didnt need to 15% it

just revert the 10

[minor gust]

with the nerfs to other top specs 15% is fine

[sweet quartz]

How did ms not get touched?

[minor gust]

because that would also hurt colossus more

[empty pike]

amen

[minor gust]

which doesnt need to be nerfed

[flat willow]

Gentlemen I think you are missing the point, do not let this nerf distract you from warlocks sandbagging to get buffed

we must all work together to get warlocks nerfed

[tacit crystal]

nah their changes were good

why aoe you ever spending aoe in st

like what

[prime whale]

I wish we were kings of execute in a big way, I don’t care if we underperform everywhere else, having that niche felt good

[brittle fiber]

Yooo garrosh

You’re here too

[flat willow]

kek

[tidal phoenix]

So is the arms dream still alive or we deadge

[brittle fiber]

How’s fart club

[flat willow]

jumping between cataclysm and retail

[brittle fiber]

Im juggling if i wanna get into mop

I think id play lock though

[flat willow]

lock is a very good choice for mop

[mild hound]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-dodge-neo-gif-13288848

[empty pike]

lives bro

[flat willow]

but I believe everyone should try mop warrior at least once in their life

[fair siren]

Delete this rational post. Let’s watch the roaches panic

[brittle fiber]

Yea ive heard the same

[pearl jasper]

This 15% nerf isn't too bad right?

[onyx robin]

arms is still good, just not the spec of the patch

[wind quiver]

can't risk the execute spec excelling on the execute fights

[minor gust]

im spreading the bait in fury chat arms channel is for rational smart people

[zealous pivot]

werent we like 800k ahead of everyone on pure execute sims anyways?

[fair siren]

[pearl jasper]

I know right

[brittle fiber]

There isnt another discord that have the same dps rivalry that warriors do

Maybe frost and unholy

[silk spade]

yeah that is way worse

was gonna say

[wind quiver]

lower pre-execute though so it evens out unless you have a really long execute

[brittle fiber]

It’s like comparing grassfed organic steak to a maccas burger

[zealous pivot]

yeah but we were literally the highest simming class overall its not the end of the world

[flat willow]

it shows you guys have never played warlock

[silk spade]

last 2 fights looking to be p3 lusts

[wind quiver]

no no it's fine, just memeing

[flat willow]

there is nothing more hateful than a warlock player thinking about another warlock spec

[serene hollow]

arms was almost certainly near the top pre execute and miles ahead in execute, this is probably the most targeted nerf they could do with respect to the upcoming fights is what I'm thinking

[snow flame]

Yeah the Maccas gaps

[winged creek]

true

[ivory remnant]

15% to execute, arms dead :C RIP boyz

[severe haven]

mcdonalds kinda good in eu

[steep osprey]

Wanna see something funny

[minor gust]

@smoky kayak yoooo actually a really nice nerf if Battlelord finally pulls ahead for colossus instead of Jugg

[steep osprey]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tfPBobhnUkemVH3d4LWcWS

Bozos buffed Bm way more than what the tier set nerf was

[coral crescent]

AFK spec for babbies simming good

[slender heron]

anybody knows how much enh. got nerfed lul rip shamans ;D

[dire copper]

Woulda been nice to have a single week but honestly seeing the logs out of people who were doing mythic the past week, I get it

[coral crescent]

it do be just like S2 DF

[steep osprey]

@severe haven

[smoky kayak]

believe me when I say this was the best nerf we could possibly hope for

[minor gust]

yeah I was expecting another lazy aura nerf tbh

[severe haven]

not surprising, though I'm not educated as much as others on BM and sims I see the pattern

[minor gust]

like 3% or something

[edgy solstice]

bro i was gonna soft quit s2 but blord colo is legit

[quaint otter]

Ballsmaster

[silk spade]

same

[minor gust]

Still behind slayer but atleast colossus is finally taking blord in ST

[edgy solstice]

ya that's fine. i like the mix of playing slayer in raid and colo in keys tbh

[minor gust]

well colossus was already taking blord for keys

[dire copper]

I'm a fan of arms having a place in keys instead of needing to side-gear for fury

[minor gust]

gearing for both arms and fury isnt a big deal its just 1 extra weapon and a ring and neck

[rain cipher]

aren't we already playing Battlelord with Clossus?

[dire copper]

Swapping all crit to mastery was a little rough

[minor gust]

Archi is refering to ST colossus not M+

[bitter escarp]

for raid

[rare kite]

arms usually does have a place in keys tho. if you need more aoe you bring arms over fury. need st/survivability go fury

[edgy solstice]

nah it's been pretty bad bc reverse stat prios

[magic canopy]

im just glad MS still does big fuck dam

[uncut shard]

oh no warrior is dead!!!

[magic canopy]

instead of it getting shot

[rain cipher]

got it

[dire copper]

Let me rephrase, I'm not saying arms was bad in M+, but I had to run with guildies/premades. Trying to get into 12+ as arms through applying was a 45 minute endeavor

[edgy solstice]

still a vacation season tho. wilds/fellowship too fun

[rare kite]

that's prob not gonna change mate. unless you play one of the few meta specs you're gonna be in queue simulator

[coral crescent]

fellowship xdd

[wooden lava]

bro the damage of OP is surprisingly good

[minor gust]

sim yourself the difference between stats is incredibly minimal. get different rings and a neck and everything else is negligible

[magic canopy]

OP might do more damage then Execute

if played properly now

[uncut shard]

nah arms is dead now

[dire copper]

was a LOT easier to get in as fury over arms though. But trust me, I know

[coral crescent]

I mean it is called Overpower

[uncut shard]

back to fury

[wooden lava]

I was sitting on the target dummy for a bit and 6+ stacks on 4P had OP hitting as hard as MS

[smoky kayak]

multitarget is, not single

[dire copper]

different rings, neck, a trinket, and crafted weapon
granted, you don't gotta do that much, obviously it'd just be sub-optimal, but I'm simply glad I can avoid that lol

[tranquil shadow]

Execute damage Reduced by 15 percent the next patch

on 4th mars

pfff

[smoky kayak]

#updates-midnight not nearly as bad as it sounds, honestly kinda good in the long run

[flat willow]

this is the colossus patch anyway, CF the armor set

[tranquil shadow]

I hope this will be the last nerf they know warriors gonna pump especially on the excutes phase for certain bosses during the raid but common another nerf while fire mage are still free

[flat willow]

next patch everyone will play slayer

I wonder what the slayer armor will look like

[sweet crest]

how bad is the nerf ?

and still will be the best to go arms in m+ and riadS?

[minor gust]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[silk spade]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[ocean socket]

idk I think Warrior is in a pretty interesting spot where there is really no wrong choice on whether you play Arms/Fury in Raid or M+

[minor gust]

its been like that for awhile

[unborn canyon]

man, the nerf wasnt so bad

im glad we werent nuked from orbit

[rain cipher]

We will reach a point where there is no point to have 2 spec. Just 1 class 1 spec and multiple builds

[sturdy chasm]

This guy gets it.

[rotund oriole]

can't believe they not touched fury

[rich ridge]

We back

[fresh spire]

@magic canopy

You aren't ready

for what might happen

[tacit crystal]

show

[ebon storm]

what can I do now to start gearing now on a new alt? Beside rare farming

[magic canopy]

pausechamp

or killmyselfchamp

[fresh spire]

imagine slayer goes BL

:ohno

[minor gust]

Fishy please please please don't make me play fatal on slayer

[magic canopy]

if you dont play ashen as arms then the nerf was far too severe

[minor gust]

Don't do this

[fresh spire]

robot tells me to

SEND IT

[tacit crystal]

fishy...

what is colo blord build now

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-star-wars-rebels-darth-vader-angry-then-you-will-die-gif-23036708

Then The robot must die

[fresh spire]

its almost same as jug, likely gains to get to bury jug

just playing with slayer befor bedge

likely will deep dig tomorrow night/sunday day

[tacit crystal]

huge

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1306122650011176961/1345195962464866344/image0.jpg?ex=67c3aadd&is=67c2595d&hm=8542f80d1af5df0687b306f85a6fed3e1e237ea970bfc4bc6c9e845c2290ad9a&

i was thinking something like this

[minor gust]

Blord Slayer means fatality and my body can't handle it

[fresh spire]

[tacit crystal]

and you would swap bb sks and op gives rage during execute

and maybe fatality

okay but imagine how good fatality is for prog

[eager sigil]

give me jugg over fatality please

[tacit crystal]

pad

[snow flame]

love how useless fatality is

so pog!!!!

[pseudo crow]

noooooooo

why nerf ;'(

[fresh spire]

i mean build still dont play it now

jug still best

likely will still be best in raid given how last bosses seem to work

[tacit crystal]

when pants

[minor gust]

Fatality is bad cuz CDs work with it

I rather have Jugg than will my CDs line up with mark

[ebon storm]

i dont think it was cds

it was just ToM no?

[minor gust]

Recent change with 11.1

[ebon storm]

making sure to proc ToM before an execute at 35%

[minor gust]

Fatality scales with everything including mastery and cds

[valid walrus]

I was scared for a bigger nerf tbh XD

[ebon storm]

oh

[vivid ore]

are people planning to play slayer over colossus for raid at the start?

[eager sigil]

yes

[chilly isle]

Man i just wish we could have been allowed to be execute gods again for once

Wishing myself back to Antorus

[minor gust]

That was fury not arms

[chilly isle]

Im speaking warrior in general

I play both specs

[minor gust]

Arms still is very very strong in execute

[wooden lava]

what the fuck is that

[ebon storm]

arms was peak during 8.3

realistically though, every class was so much fun during 8.3 lol

[fair siren]

arms was peak during kiljaeden tos

[gusty oxide]

The target on excecute specificly is understandable, since there are two big execute phase fights in this raid

[vivid ore]

as a new warrior , is colossus rotation similar ish to slayer for m+ ? im aslready a bit overwhelmed, wanna keep to 1 hero spec for now

[eager sigil]

its more buttons

[vivid ore]

so many buttons

[eager sigil]

just press stuff on cooldown

[gusty oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-will-ferrell-buddy-elevator-pressing-all-the-buttons-gif-3577196

[pseudo crow]

so.... fury is the way now for raiding ?

[torpid jackal]

Do "your attacks" effects include harmful spells from casters

[kind saffron]

realistically, focus on learning slayer for ST, then slayer for MT while in the single target build (sweeping strikes, executing different prio targets, etc) and then think about how adding cleave changes the fundamental priorities there. once you are familiar with that, learning colossus will be pretty straightforward for you

[vivid ore]

just been testing in dungeons so far, im pretty behind in gear but i think my dps was respectable

hopefully

[minor gust]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[vivid ore]

just gotta get used to my keybinds, and not being as tanky as my unholy

[kind saffron]

if you feel that way, you're probably doing well already. the fundamentals will carry you really far with a spec like arms where the floor is reasonably low but ceiling can be deceptively high

the nuances to when you should OP over MS, etc, are optimizations that you'll want to learn organically later but like all things, will come pretty easily for you in time as you learn to feel the throughput of rage / natural cycle of target switching and rage generation / expenditure

[pseudo crow]

yes but nothing about arms vs fury, only slayer vs collosus no ?

[fair siren]

fury was never in the convo wym

[vivid ore]

i was at 1.1mil average at 610 ilvl in a 8, probably not the best but im happy with that to start of, cant compare to my 640 unholy

just a weird switch between the 2

[thick hamlet]

hey this is -15% to execute's base damage? or is it a modifier that's stackable with other execute daamage buffs?

these things always confuse me

[minor gust]

because the answer didnt change from this nerf both are very strong. and have their own strengths and weakness. If you have to only choose 1 play whatever is more fun or comfortable. If you want to min max prog because your in a hall of fame guild you will play both

[vivid ore]

any specific WA you use ? i got the spell reflect one, doesnt seem to be working for me atm, not sure why

[steep osprey]

Y’all seen the BM stuff

[minor gust]

yeah they had to do a stronger nerf

because they fucked up

[rare kite]

god i love wowhead comments

giga overreaction

[minor gust]

as always

nothing new

[smoky kayak]

we don't actually know how they're implementing it yet, but it would be multiplicative and therefore should come out to the same overall number either way

if they just reduce the AP coefficient, that would affect Protection too, so I'm inclined to think they're adding a new Arms specific modifier somewhere (probably in the spec aura)

but then again, their patch notes aren't always completely exact either so

[steep osprey]

The Lebron of overreaction

[smoky kayak]

Because it's -15**%** though, it doesn't actually matter; practically everything in modern WoW is multiplicative, with very few flat modifiers these days

[smoky kayak]

tbf they're bitching about PvP more than PvE

[kind saffron]

ehh i only really care about keys so i'm biased in how i set up my UI, but the WAs i think will be most generically useful for you as you learn arms will be:

• generic stuff like any other class to easily keep track of defensives / utility / CDs
• something very obvious that tells you if you forgot to switch out of your d-stance flick (assuming you do hard content in dogshit m+ comps like my static where this is necessary 🙂 )
• plater or something tuned so that you can easily keep track of who is missing rend/deep wounds, and who has how many stacks of EP on them (SS + execute pops EP)

Personally I'd get used to watching cast bars w/ target-of-target to make intelligent use of SR in keys anyway. unless your reaction times are truly that fast and a WA without pre-thought works better for you

[rare kite]

maybe that's fair then? i have no clue about anything pvp

[nova marsh]

So

how much ya wonna bet Cyrce's Circlet gets nerfed

[fresh spire]

They said in a blue post when it launched they will nerf it

So very likely.

[silk spade]

I really hope it does

nuke it

[hexed saddle]

war queens moment

[nova marsh]

I'mma be honest I still just...don't like these rings

[fresh spire]

Not right away.

[smoky kayak]

if they nerf the circlet it'll prob be a few weeks in

[fresh spire]

That's why we get dinars in .5 not a shit ring

[nova marsh]

Similiar to how the annulet was nerfed is how I imagine it but like

[minor gust]

[nova marsh]

It's bewildering they've done this twice.

[hexed saddle]

im going to be honest

even with roaring war queens cringe

[fresh spire]

It's fine as long as it isn't like bis 2 months into the next raid

[hexed saddle]

i dont mind it

1 less item to get

sounds good to me

[nova marsh]

I get that idealolgy but I prefer seasons with a pretty clear fresh start

[hexed saddle]

ive never shared that after growing up with cof

[nova marsh]

I also just...don't wonna go get it because siren's isle seems super boring and I'd rather smash my head into walls with D.R.I.V.E in undermine

[fair siren]

the good ole cof days, gonna make me tear up

[hexed saddle]

i yearn for galakronds evil eye

[magic canopy]

is that his butthole

[hexed saddle]

yeah

hidden 3rd eye

[visual fern]

I did nh every week every difficulty usedevery reroll, never got DoS till the week they nerfed it

[hexed saddle]

i got it first week from the normal diff raid box

just turbo cranked

it was so poggers

[minor gust]

damn thats fucked

[fair siren]

thats insanely bad rng wtf

[severe haven]

this is it for sure

nerfed the main spender and their Go's

[quasi field]

I just swapped to arms from fury and they go and nerf the spec

[tacit crystal]

me when the nerf was nothing

[minor gust]

Umm ahktually it was not nothing it was 3.6%

🤓

[quasi field]

A nerf is a nerf brother

[tacit crystal]

you're stupid

[quasi field]

Please continue with the reason

[spring vale]

if all they will nerf is 3.6% and nothing else, it's a time to celebrate. Arms could've had its kneecaps broken for daring to be good and not a cloth spec

[tacit crystal]

it changes nothing

[quasi field]

It males execute do less damage

So it does change something

[minor gust]

dont get your hopes up buddy theres still tuning after rwf

[spring vale]

Surely this nerf will placate their need to further nerf

[tacit crystal]

a 3.6% nerf does not change anything if we are among top 5

[quasi field]

i never said the spec is dead

[spring vale]

[minor gust]

[quasi field]

It still is a nerf

I wasnt saying anything about being bottom tier

Yet your conclusion is to call someone stupid

[minor gust]

[tacit crystal]

"a nerf is a nerf" implying that the nerf changed any of our power

[real robin]

I think it just implies that it was a nerf.

[quasi field]

Yeah lol

It changes the power of execute making it deal less damage than it did

[tacit crystal]

which does nothing about our power

[quasi field]

so your comment is invalid

[tacit crystal]

a 3% nerf is nothing

[quasi field]

Ill leave you be

[real robin]

Which does little about our power. You're having an oddly strong reaction to this.

[quasi field]

3>0

So again

Invalid argument

[minor gust]

no keep going please

[undone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[undone terrace]

Sir.. please continue.

[quasi field]

He gave up

[visual fern]

It's over who cares, now you'd just be arguing for the sake of arguing

[spring vale]

stop being silly arguing semantics in a class discord

[visual fern]

They both dropped it, no need to instigate further

[olive nest]

they couldnt let arms be ahead of fury

[hard cedar]

Slayer still better than Colossus with the execute nerf?

[minor gust]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[dull siren]

Stop yapping

go drive

[minor gust]

[dull siren]

wicked fast

[hard cedar]

Cool. I'm just happy I don't have to press Demolish. That ability would get me killed so damn much

[crystal umbra]

How many stacks of Collateral Damage does it take to send out a Cleave in single target?

[silk spade]

😭

[brittle fiber]

2 questions

1. if i'm 2/2 lethal blows and EP and i have 20-29 rage or MS is on cool down, do I send another execute or overpower?
2. how does execute work in SS

[minor gust]

2

[minor gust]

Lethal blows is not something you keep track of here now. unless you meant to say MP and EP stacks

[brittle fiber]

until we replace tier set i mean

[minor gust]

even with tier

you dont track it anymore

it doesnt matter

the whole reason we did track it in execute was because MS was piss weak

and it was not worth sending MS until x2 LB and x2 EP

[brittle fiber]

ah true i just reread the wowhead

hypothetically, is there a world where we run colossus for carnage or is the cleave window too short to properly benefit from it

[minor gust]

I assume this is a boss fight with adds that spawn

adds generally dont ever live long enough your better just taking the 1 point into cleave or going fury

[brittle fiber]

nah carnge is the one where bosses are split for like 85% of the fight then clash for 20 seconds once max energy is hit

i think it's one energy energy a sec but dont quote me on that

[minor gust]

oh cauldron

bosses are split most of the fight why would yo go colossus

its a ST fight with a splash of 2T

[heavy seal]

im unsure where to ask this question. im very new to raiding on a warrior have only been mage for 8 years but my guild needed a warrior. based on what archimtiros said is arms still best for raid if i only have 1 set?

[minor gust]

both are strong if you have to choose one choose whats more fun to you. If your min maxing for prog your gonna play both

[heavy seal]

ill probably end up min maxing because we are shooting for HoF. can both be played even without perfect stats? like for mage it was easy because arcane and fire shared stats. but i couldnt really play frost without crit

[plucky flicker]

Is Arms still above Fury on Sims or Fury taking over ?

[minor gust]

warrior likes all stats theres not a single stat you hate. you can comfortablely switch between the two. At most you need different rings and neck and +1 weapon which is not a big deal to keep up with

[heavy seal]

ok perfect thank you for the info! doesnt sound bad to keep up at all

[hexed saddle]

dont need to min max spec to get hof

just need good execution

[minor gust]

[brittle fiber]

GOOD EXEUCTION?

MFW

[plucky flicker]

Xan did you really have to say that ?

Kappa

[hexed saddle]

owned

dork spec

[heavy seal]

it did fit the bill of the day lol

[hexed saddle]

still highest execute in the game

stay small

[plucky flicker]

How can I stay small when I play a spec called Arms with big arms

Average Fury enjoyer bulling humble Arms enjoyer

[nova marsh]

There are no fury enjoyers

Only fury mains

[hexed saddle]

thats true actually

[nova marsh]

you either hate fury with a passion to rival god himself or you adore it to pieces and will never play another spec

[plucky flicker]

I feel that but not with a certain spec, I feel that with warrior

[brittle fiber]

the only fury i adore was the first iteration of havoc in legion

[nova marsh]

Yeah. That's warrior

[brittle fiber]

exactly

[nova marsh]

I am changed. For I see beyond the warrior

Into other classes

It also makes me cringe

[brittle fiber]

what are you, oppenheimer

[heavy seal]

im just a mage one trick that somehow ended up on warrior

[brittle fiber]

i am become alter, destroyer of parses

[nova marsh]

Why would you do that

Mage is so much more fun because you do real damage evrey season

[brittle fiber]

yea but your rl also forces you to do mechanics

[nova marsh]

This is also true

The curse of ranged

[heavy seal]

because we had 3 mages and no warriors for our new comp lol

[nova marsh]

And how many melee/hunters

[cobalt sinew]

it begins

[obsidian atlas]

Is arms still better than fury after the 15% execute nerf?

[abstract cairn]

meh, barely the same, the execute nerf seems to be bc of how OP arms was in execute phase this week, ppl still have that 5% damage given in ptr.

[lean geode]

In a vacuum in pure single target, AM slayer fury is probably very slightly ahead now

But reality is not a vacuum, nor is it generally pure single target

[obsidian atlas]

So which spec will most likely be the go to for the raid? Or will it be fight dependant?

[wooden lava]

fight dependent, also you'll need to check sims

just because a fight is pure ST or is largely ST, doesn't mean you will play the optimal spec

things like your gear, your comp, and most importantly your skill level will play a much bigger factor

if you're a good Arms player and can use add spawns to refresh and stack your Juggernaut, you'll come out on top

[rotund mist]

Based on these comments is arms likely to be the better pick in m+?

[minor gust]

both are good

[wooden lava]

Arms owns hard

[full widget]

Is arms dead

[lean geode]

Seems like people really struggle with this tbh