#arms
silk spade
narrow flax
nice
wide pebble
Be square or be square.
shadow ibex
found tech to hide WB animation
minor gust
@fresh spire YOOOO wtf this guy PI abusing
valid walrus
Holy.... arms feels amazing
shadow ibex
toy from golem quest removes unholy wb animation
valid walrus
Don't know they just could have made it a glyph
royal escarp
I'm not a top player but here's my opinion. the colossus spec is great in aoe but in ST it leaves something to be desired. I tested in +12 SV I did 2M21 overall but on mono bosses it's a hassle. Your opinions plz. Sorry for my poor english
trail orbit
I'm not a top player but here's my opinion. the colossus spec is great in aoe bu...
personally, i think having something to be desired is still better than playing slayer in aoe.
severe haven
I'm not a top player but here's my opinion. the colossus spec is great in aoe bu...
your english is fine
untold pewter
Man I just specced into Warbreaker and I swear to god this is bothering me so much
severe haven
royal escarp
personally, i think having something to be desired is still better than playing ...
slayer on MM is good enough for boss but less for packs but not very bad
shadow ibex
Man I just specced into Warbreaker and I swear to god this is bothering me so mu...
the delay is worst part to me now
trail orbit
oh its not bad by any means. but why would you something that requires more management
when you can just play colo and save aggrivation.
shadow ibex
the animation is happening well after the gcd is refreshed
shadow ibex
its so bad
trail orbit
the delay is awful - put my ravager down the mobs were alive. by the time it actually showed was onto the next.
untold pewter
It's like someone dropped a fucking microwave down
quaint otter
lol
untold pewter
Oh
Amazing
Worse yet
I just used it against some like 12 targets
And it just played no sound at all
silk spade
if you WB a lot of mobs
reef glade
wish it was still stomp idk why changed to spin
stomp and swords falling good
just random whirlwind animation kinda goofy
untold trench
Does it still spawn dancing rune weapon at home?
rare kite
yes
untold trench
You know what? I feel better about Fury now
lilac canyon
so whats better for pve fury or arms??
quaint otter
That sounds mortal
royal escarp
do you play dreadnaught or the other one ?
tribal ember
How is slayer multi target in 11.1? I see wow head suggests colossus
vast helm
quaint otter
How is slayer multi target in 11.1? I see wow head suggests colossus
still not good
tribal ember
Good to know
spring rune
Is the raid threads buff still here this week?
olive nest
It should be active in that instance forever
spring rune
Oh ok thanks, wasn't sure if it was seasonal or not
finite mantle
zdravo je izdanje novog ažuriranja
littlepoopx
rich ridge
Arms top DPS? We S tier now?
quaint otter
quaint otter
Arms top DPS? We S tier now?
always has been
rich ridge
Let’s go!!
hard cedar
Yeah it was from MoP Remix. There’s also a Back version.
steep osprey
Is it pog
steep osprey
What’s that
tacit crystal
cleanest gas station in america
shadow ibex
i seen some clean wawas
finite mantle
i just had dinner but im craving buccees
I’m a loves kinda gal
untold pewter
They just said they read the feedback and will be reworking it
No dates or anything
I wish they reverted it at least until then
tacit crystal
I’m a loves kinda gal
the closest buccees or loves is hours away 😦
crystal umbra
Is it weird that I actually kinda like the new warbreaker animation?
severe haven
youre allowed to have taste i think
flat willow
You do you my brudda
severe haven
im indifferent to it tbh, old one was better tho
severe haven
i agree
minor gust
I like the weapons I dont like the WW animation reuse
shadow ibex
are they like ghost weapons
are they supposed to represent the warrior smashing the ground
strange perch
question about this sentence in the single target priority, in the situation of having no juggernaut stacks, and execute procs, do you insta rip it?
or do you literally only execute while under 2 sudden death or 3 marked for exe?
tribal ember
Good luck keeping track of that
strange perch
wdym
tracking 2 buffs?
that's fine no? I'm talking about do you also execute without juggernaut to apply juggernaut?
minor gust
question about this sentence in the single target priority, in the situation of ...
follow the conditionals
sacred zodiac
from the wording you'd just keep it until one of the conditionals hits
minor gust
only press execute if any of those 3 apply
sacred zodiac
can check what the apl does
minor gust
apl follows those conditions
strange perch
do you guys see how that sentence in the opener kinda contradicts the prio though?
execute could only be put in the opener if you somehow get 2 doom stacks or 3 prep stacks then
that's not plausible in the opener by itself no?
so why would execute ever impact the prio there seeing they mention it being to apply jug
but its not a conditional to press exe
that's my confusion
sacred zodiac
you can giga proc in opener and get 2x sd
strange perch
ah okay that clears it up
sacred zodiac
just ignore that sentence under the opener picture just follow the conditional
strange perch
you'd use it to spend your proc
rare kite
honestly, grab an sd weakaura. press when it makes sound, and stop thinking
sacred zodiac
so you wouldnt exe to apply jug
if it makes sense, you want to double up on your SD procs so you have more leverage on maintaining juggernaut
strange perch
if it makes sense, you want to double up on your SD procs so you have more lever...
yeah that makes sense
sacred zodiac
i need a kaching execute wa
strange perch
I'll dm the writer of the guide maybe asking for clarification though
sacred zodiac
can just ping archi here if you want lol
i agree the line under the opener is a bit sus but its not wrong per se
strange perch
@smoky kayak Could you give some context on my question a bit up in here?
that'd be awesome
here's the 2 images again
minor gust
yee it is strange wording but at the end of the day just follow the SD conditionals and you will be fine
strange perch
yeah will do
quasi torrent
me when slayer strike procs 7 times in 8 seconds
minor gust
Me when slayer strikes procs 1 time in 30 seconds
quasi torrent
normal
minor gust
rancid lantern
when playing slayer arms Cleave build, is there a min target count to cleave? and in single press slam?
latent moss
here's the 2 images again
just follow the conditionals. 3x mfe 2x sd jugg falling off sd falling off
u can giga proc sd on first 2-3 globals
and u never want to lose a sd stack
cause that dooms ur jugg
actions.slayer_st+=/execute,if=buff.juggernaut.remains<=gcd*2&talent.juggernaut|buff.sudden_death.stack=2|buff.sudden_death.remains<=gcd*3|debuff.marked_for_execution.stack=3
kinda hard to read cause apl moment
but its at the top of the prio list
could probably find an iteration where it giga procs early but im sleepy
unborn canyon
we need a demolish emote
quaint otter
we need a demolish emote
yes
mild dagger
Random question. This is my first time using Demolish. Am I supposed to get frozen in place for 5-10 seconds after the animation or is my game bugged?
latent moss
mob running out of range and zone lag prob yeah
smoky kayak
here's the 2 images again
What exactly is the confusion?
- The image shows the prio without Execute (because SD procs are random, kinda hard to put them in a static image)
- the note acknowledges that Execute procs will fall in reactively, since Juggernaut is still important
- the rotation line clarifies that you want to use Execute w/ 3x Mark, 2x SD, or to keep up Juggernaut
dire hinge
seeing the opener has this sentence under it
This is the second time I've seen this question 
your opener usually looks like this:
Charge -> Rend -> Roar -> Avatar+CS -> MS -> BS-> {FLEXIBILITY} -> MS
When you come out of Bladestorm you might have procs you want to consume before continuing into your Mortal Strike
- You want to cast Execute first if you:
- Have 2 SD stacks
- Have less than 3sec on a SD proc
- Have 3 Marked for Execution stacks
- You then want to cast Overpower if you have Opportunist buff
Then you continue with your normal rotation (ie: Mortal Strike)
latent moss
hoooly
dire hinge
it's very unlikely the flexibility will happen before your first BS, so like, most of the time you fix it after BS
strange perch
thanks guys
dire hinge
of course!
smoky kayak
Yeah I mean, that's the nature of random procs, you can't really make a static image out of it, it's something you gotta know the priority and react to
which is why there's a line by line section below it
latent moss
archi you forgot to put a little line above bladestorm to indicate pressing storm bolt during it
chatting
0.2% dps
dire hinge
For sure, i think people get confused on "btw, Execute might be cast at some point in here", but the onus of where is on them to figure out (understandably)
smoky kayak
archi you forgot to put a little line above bladestorm to indicate pressing stor...
na, don't spec Storm Bolt in ST
dire hinge
since we're only looking at the opening 3 GCDs, none of the Execute conditionals usually apply there, but with Bladestorm lasting so long, it seems to always come into play after BS ends
latent moss
so shockwave and then bi or hr
smoky kayak
Also fwiw, people tend to really focus on the minutae, like "do I use SD before or after my Mortal Strike following Bladestorm?!" when it really doesn't matter - pushing a GCD back and forth is going to have very little practical impact on performance
dire hinge
agreed there
fossil thistle
This is the second time I've seen this question <:gladge:963970137701109820>
y...
I haven’t even looked at new warrior rotation and I’ve been sub consciously doing this same rotation 🥹
smoky kayak
Arms hasn't actually changed that much, aside from just getting more Mortal Strikes
dire hinge
nothing wrong with a static opener and fix it after BS ends
latent moss
they focus so much on the rotation they dont notice the boss moving and then delay their autoattack and miss a global
🎦
smoky kayak
nothing wrong with a static opener and fix it after BS ends
absolutely, and consistency is king
dire hinge
they focus so much on the rotation they dont notice the boss moving and then del...
9 hours optimizing OP priority but forget to press MS when it's up 
smoky kayak
they focus so much on the rotation they dont notice the boss moving and then del...
oh yeah that happens all the time
fossil thistle
they focus so much on the rotation they dont notice the boss moving and then del...
im out of range voice line plays 32 times
latent moss
9 hours optimizing OP priority but forget to press MS when it's up <:critcake:98...
not me (lying)
doing all the 0.3-0.5% fatality optimizations in 10.2 then forgetting to prio ms in overlap
smoky kayak
this is exactly why I don't like the new Fury rotation
fossil thistle
My only issue in 11.0 was rage dumping too hard into execute and not pressing OP enough.
I would on procs, but I’d still just tunnel vision execute at 40 rage then scratch my head “why button no work”
smoky kayak
it's just too much micromanagement
latent moss
i like how wallife played it
ramp cb bb
ramp cb bb
i played it like that too
cba with the >85 rage <95 rage
smoky kayak
Well I've been playin AM, not RA
latent moss
tbh i dont know 11.1 fury at all
smoky kayak
On Ansurek I was just prioritizing 2-3 RB into BT, but the proper rotation is really overloaded with conditionals
I'm gonna mess with the APL tomorrow and see if I can dumb it down a bit, because I really think it's a bit too bloated for its own good
latent moss
holy fuck i just looked at it
smoky kayak
Yeah it's whack
I already condensed a few parts for the sake of the guide, and it's still overbearing
latent moss
takes like 20 seconds to read the line and understand it
4000 conditionals
they really cursed us
latent moss
580% ap
shadow ibex
mmmmnyessssssss
what talent u have instead of EP?
reef glade
for more pad
latent moss
no
shadow ibex
it doesnt remove CD
latent moss
unless there comes a time where ep works with cleave and u rage starve in aoe
shadow ibex
just cost
reef glade
it doesnt remove CD
reef glade
dance of death gaming surely
shadow ibex
the limit on casting it is the CD not the rage cost
shadow ibex
there just really isnt many other options
fatal if u hate life
another bb rank if u only had 1?
latent moss
kill jugg
lean geode
I'm gonna mess with the APL tomorrow and see if I can dumb it down a bit, becaus...
I just finished updating wowa for fury man
dire hinge
fatal if u hate life
let me mass trigger fatal 
latent moss
should move it to trigger from ms and cleave
tom wb stack all cds to proc fatality on a council boss
dire hinge
Cleave giveth, cleave taketh away
latent moss
spiteful serenity smolderon secret tech coming back
3 pi 70% tom
(still 30% below sub rogue)
dire hinge
Log Invalidation speedrun 😂
latent moss
sadge
i think they forgot about it
they forgot about it 2 days after releasing it
it wasnt even tested
if it was they wouldve realized iftk is 10s long instead of 26 with blunt instruments
fresh spire
smoky kayak
I _just_ finished updating wowa for fury man
welcome to the show that never ends
smoky kayak
dance of death gaming surely
more of a funnel talent, but it could unironically be good in some raid situations, if you could more easily afford to spend the talent point
lean geode
welcome to the show that never ends
I mean, at least I don't have to put any thought or effort into generating the sims/APL/guides - I don't envy you guys that headache
spring vale
am I tripping or Spell Reflect has a new animation?
livid plume
It does yeah just checked it then
spring vale
it looks sick
livid plume
Same icon just more fresh and refined
smoky kayak
yeah the shield seems to be the same, but it's cleaner and more distinct now
and has a circle or somethin around it
they also updated the fear icon that appears over character heads and a few other things
finite wasp
dance of death is useless
minor gust
dance of death is useless
its not useless it has its niche. Its just incredibly weak and we dont have the talent budget to take it because its in the last row. It needs to be giga buffed or just removed for something else
imagine if the talent made ravager last insanely long or the buff after bladestorm lasted way longer than 2 seconds...
shadow ibex
2 seconds after BS is so bad lol
and lets say it does boost ur dmg during BS cuz u kill 3 adds early in the spin. each tick does 15% more dmg? it does almost no dmg now
minor gust
its pretty fucking dumb yeah
shadow ibex
the 15% inc would be most felt in the unhinged MS cast
but youd have to kill 3 adds before they are cast
reef glade
haughty meadow
so whats the best build for arms now demolish?
rich ridge
Check the guide
reef glade
slayer in raid
maybe some bosses demo can be good
if like a bunch of adds or somethin
minor gust
depends on your definition of playable. you can play whatever you want if your not in a CE guild
haughty meadow
my question comes from line thane you can raid with
strange perch
what build are you guys using
haughty meadow
but slayer is technically better
severe crag
.1
reef glade
hitting it when full stacks i imagine
and trying to almost always send it during sweeping
and wb
shadow ibex
it doesnt sweep
reef glade
the final hit does no
shadow ibex
well the important hit doesnt
reef glade
or whatever
shadow ibex
nah
shadow ibex
just the first two single target swings
shadow ibex
i mean sweeping is gonna be running anyway cuz u use it with WB and demo lines up with that p often
stuck sequoia
" Avatar shortly before or with Colossus Smash"
do want to hold avatar to line up with CS?
reef glade
think if cs is less than like 10 sec away should be fine to send ava cuz it'd come up during ava for sure
shadow ibex
avatar 20 sec duration means yes you can send it before CS
and with AM it will be up soon
stuck sequoia
think if cs is less than like 10 sec away should be fine to send ava cuz it'd co...
but if it's greater than 10 sec I should just send it?
reef glade
i mean yea probably, i think its unlikely you would have like just hit cs and ava comes off the moment it drops off and cs has like a 30sec cd left
shadow ibex
yea thats the only time yud fuck urself
reef glade
if it were like a raid fight i'd say you either hold the previous cs to line with ava or just send both on cd and kinda roll with the punches but i think for M+ its just thinkin about if what youre fighting will live as long as ava lasts
stuck sequoia
ok
strange perch
hitting it when full stacks i imagine
thougth i was wat 10 stacks but idk
reef glade
yea 10 is full
just like not opening with in in a pack and waiting until you build up the stacks
from sweeping ms's and cleave and stuff
just like free double dmg on it just was wonderin if you were or not, i think its mostly intuitive to not send it without stacks
o didnt realize each hit of demo ss'd counts as a collat stack
thats nice at least
get 2 stacks from channeling
pearl jasper
So skull splitter isnt part of any recommended builds now? One less button I suppose
smoky kayak
Yeah, the big rotational damage buffs have caused bleeds to fall off
pearl jasper
Ah fair enough
Question on Demolish, do we ever hold it to get max stacks of Might? Or just send on CD?
lean geode
You hold it for stacks in aoe
On st you send it on cd outside of execute, and hold it for CS during execute
pearl jasper
On st you send it on cd outside of execute, and hold it for CS during execute
noted, thank you
hard cedar
Skullspliter sucked as a button. It should have just been trigger by MS with a 20sec icd.
spring vale
It would feel nice if it worked like cold blood does for rogues, where you press it and your next ms/cleave applies the skullsplitter effect appropriately
trail orbit
Warrior has the perfect binds for my tiny ass hands to reach and skullsplitter made that harder. Rest in piss.
harsh field
i noticed the wowhead and pinned guides arent updated for the new talents
is there somewhere i could find them?
spring vale
They absolutely are updated! https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/talent-builds-pve-dps
spring vale
🫡
silk spade
is there somewhere i could find them?
ill dm you
shit gets automodded sometimes when you post a link
upbeat pelican
i take it that it's fine to macro avatar with roar, right?
severe crag
As a fury bro mainly is there any weak aura's I would want to help keep track of buffs for arms?
lilac elm
minor gust
i take it that it's fine to macro avatar with roar, right?
You can if you want to
upbeat pelican
You can if you want to
i know, but should I? :D
minor gust
no
midnight mural
Having main rotational abilities truck hard is so amazing - pls never again dot based
junior sparrow
Hey team as colossus arms for M+ are we using Auth of depths or Auth of Radiant for our weapon enchant
minor gust
your choice do you want more ST or more AOE
gleaming pebble
Hey all, trying out arms because it looks RLY fun - im trying out my rotation against some target dummies and was just wondering what are the pro tips for macro'ing abilities together to save a GCD when possible, rend stands out to me and something that could get paired with somethign else for example. (if its off GCD i havent tested yet) ...waht do you all usually put together?
dim basalt
Hey all, trying out arms because it looks RLY fun - im trying out my rotation ag...
^ didnt notice your answer was a while ago
And no rend is not off gcd
rugged cobalt
So how are we looking for m+ lads? Predictions had arms REAL high at times.. Are we turbo?? 😄
dim basalt
So how are we looking for m+ lads? Predictions had arms REAL high at times.. Are...
Good but not meta
Other than damage we still dont bring anything and some specs can keep up with our damage
Should be a lot easier to get into pugs tho
rugged cobalt
Yeh I understand we don't bring Fort and PI and BL and stuff, but we pump hard?
rugged cobalt
I don't really play above 3.3-3.4k io normally, so themeta doesn't really matter
dim basalt
First week will feel way too good
rugged cobalt
I just need to top that meter, you know?
dim basalt
My sim dps went up from 1.5M to >1.9M with this patch
rugged cobalt
Also the m+ colo build doing good in ST?
dim basalt
M+ Colo ST still doing less ST than Slayer (or Fury for that matter)
But the tradeoff for more aoe damage is still good
Overall not too bad though
People have been exaggerating with our current Colo ST damage, its not good but also not horrondous
rugged cobalt
❤️
dim basalt
yw ❤️
There should also be a some spreadsheet around if you care about more specific numbers
grizzled hare
<:Arms:592471950278787080>
ocean creek
Icyveins and wowhead saying to use thunderous roar before avatar/warbreaker, wouldn't it make more sense before for the damage increase?
thick kelp
it doesnt snapshot
it updates
so you use it before
to get better buttons inside your cs window
ocean creek
Ah so the bleed will increase once cds are popped?
thick kelp
yes
most bleeds and dot effects work like that nowdays
but there is still some (feral druids) whos dots snapshot
ocean creek
Ah right cheers mate
sacred zodiac
Icyveins and wowhead saying to use thunderous roar before avatar/warbreaker, wou...
roar also does jack shit damage with the initial button press so you dont want to waste a gcd in your damage amps to press it
untold pewter
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10g479vXesC382k68gw4akUKeuGUodbDho0yhKK6E...
Correct me if I'm wrong but the actua talents for the sims we're seeing are these right?
dim basalt
Correct me if I'm wrong but the actua talents for the sims we're seeing are thes...
Didnt check everything myself but you can assume theyre correct
untold pewter
Or is it the one in #COLOSSUStalents?
Ok just loaded both in-game
I guess it's the one under "talents" cuz this is the sim for BL Colossus and the one under "#COLOSSUStalents" doesn't have BL
dim basalt
For more specific questions you need to join their discord, Im not part of the tc team
eager sigil
Correct me if I'm wrong but the actua talents for the sims we're seeing are thes...
open the full html report to see talents and other stuff
untold pewter
open the full html report to see talents and other stuff
Oh sick, wasn't aware of that
Thanks
But yeah it was correct with that "talents=" line in the raw input, but this is much better for sure lmao
What's the general idea behind Collateral? Do we just send SS without thinking about it or do we try to make SS falling off (getting Collateral) to line up with CS?
icy mulch
Depends if you want stupid burst, or just big overall.
untold pewter
icy mulch
I haven't been watching too closely on the overall difference between the two in a key. Simply because after the first couple times, nothing lines up super well to do it without losing cool downs.
untold pewter
Aye
cerulean creek
does arms have the strongest execute of all classes/specs?
untold pewter
I think I'll just play without thinking about that tbh, seems unnecessary unless, as you said, some aoe pack needs to die immediately
Most of the time this only becomes a concern during a boss with this kind of mechanic (like Ansurek's spiderlings in p3), at which point I can actually intentionally make it line up if required
icy mulch
But I've seen more upfront on demand damage by trying to line up collateral with big Amp cool downs.
rare kite
does arms have the strongest execute of all classes/specs?
probably yeah
untold pewter
This colossus BL gameplay is smooth 
untold pewter
Really glad, forced myself to play Fury for just one tier and it killed my will to try to perform optimally
untold pewter
Yo stop, don't let anyone see this
fresh spire
Likely most fun I had in raid this entire tier last night
gaunt owl
-50% aura nerf
untold pewter
lmao
fresh spire
Got pi for first time this tier
untold pewter
Got pi for first time this tier
Do you know of any of those "PI sims" sheets out there?
steep osprey
How do you play slayer in st
untold pewter
You just MS with 2x EP now during execute? No more bullshit?
fresh spire
Lack of cm execute sweep is sad tho
steep osprey
MS on cd? 3x stacks marked, keep up jugg,
untold pewter
Good old Exe 2x -> Op -> MS?
untold pewter
Well it'll be on CD
fresh spire
Getting to execute during ansurek intermission
steep osprey
you'll have to press OP eventually but it won't be to buff MS
fresh spire
As boss is just low enough
untold pewter
Yeah yeah, I just meant because you get kind of forced into that rotation
Cuz of MS cd
steep osprey
Colossus Council felt good
aff destroying everyone on council
untold pewter
Wait no, we're playing exhilarating blows on slayer now too yeah?
steep osprey
aff has always been a council spec
fresh spire
I mean yeh
Same time would have never seen arms in top 100
When ele priest also existed
Played fatal. Probs could have done more if I played spear
As roar fucking sucked ass
steep osprey
Ele stonks down
steep osprey
what's that evoker doing there
icy mulch
Good, shaman in general needs to be brought down a notch or three.
icy mulch
what's that evoker doing there
Disintegrate.
magic canopy
i tried to play sllayer but legit the boss dies so fast
thick kelp
Correct me if I'm wrong but the actua talents for the sims we're seeing are thes...
dont mind the ones with # they are just comments for me
untold pewter
dont mind the ones with # they are just comments for me
Gotcha
fresh spire
i tried to play sllayer but legit the boss dies so fast
I was thinking about playing slayer. Then I thought nah. Goat spec time. Only time we get to play it
magic canopy
fresh spire
Tbf. I wouldnt be supprised if sub rogue enhance and arms all get another little tickle
magic canopy
I was thinking about playing slayer. Then I thought nah. Goat spec time. Only ti...
yeah the bosses were dying so fast i was doin v low dps
fresh spire
Our sub rogue was blasting last night.
And they get like 2x set value next tier than us
magic canopy
but i was playing things like opportunist without our teir set to practice it
dude our teir set is over 100k dps
its nuts
fresh spire
Ahhhh. I played opport. Though imo this week you should delay over ms
Until 2p
But I was just hitting it
magic canopy
yeah prob a fierce angle
til 2p
colo gets a steroid through colossal might anyway
fresh spire
Kinda sad as lack of cm execute sweep was defo felt
Revert change blizzard. Let colossus dominate raid
fresh spire
Yeh ww strong too
rare kite
And they get like 2x set value next tier than us
do you have a sheet for tier percentages?
minor gust
Kinda sad as lack of cm execute sweep was defo felt
Yeah I felt it almost didn't get demo back in time for the second amp
icy mulch
beast master 23% holy fuk
That seems balanced.
silk spade
Ahhhh. I played opport. Though imo this week you should delay over ms
still opp until 2pc or ff for now?
steep osprey
beast master 23% holy fuk
yeah BM gets a lot of damage from tier set, the most from anyone since they nerfed both sp and sub who were at 30%+
bleak fog
Do those shipping and handling ever end? 😄
cloud gyro
Yes bro keep going
grizzled estuary
i so afraid we get nerfd guys T.T
whats your headcanon probability estiamte of it happening
bleak fog
100%
grizzled estuary
i'm trying to cope
slate grail
nobody ape adds on heroic week
bleak fog
They nerf us to middle of the pack and then 4p kicks in and we will be last again 😄
grizzled estuary
yea i have the feeling we are going to get gigascam
bleak fog
Or well we was not last
plucky osprey
Hey y'all. Been doing keys this arvo... we gonna get nerfed again like season one ? Is there any hope we ain't? lol
eager sigil
Hey y'all. Been doing keys this arvo... we gonna get nerfed again like season on...
noone knows and pre dooming about it also doesnt
just enjoy it
grizzled estuary
and behold the enhancement buff 
eager sigil
if you get nerfed you get nerfed
nimble basin
we'll get nerfed even though we don't need it, and other better specs will be untouched. The warrior way.
plucky osprey
noone knows and pre dooming about it also doesnt
Solid point I just don't think my heart can take another 4 week nerf train
eager sigil
warrior is good rn and people instead of crying how bad we are, are crying that we might get nerfed
plucky osprey
True. You are right I think people are more happy we are good and don't wanna lose that feeling like so many times before
rancid solstice
Doubtful any tuning happens in this pointless week 0, but probably a pass or two once people are progging through the raid
bleak fog
cloud gyro
Why nerf warrior? Its not even that good compared to 11.2 destro
sour onyx
Guys is the raidbots still broken or the sims are working again?
sacred zodiac
Doubtful any tuning happens in this pointless week 0, but probably a pass or two...
me when i took a nap during hc week s1
rare kite
Why nerf warrior? Its not even that good compared to 11.2 destro
blizzard nerfs based on raid 99% of the time. only extreme outliers in m+ gets nerfed
heavy scaffold
are arms sims ok? somehow they are equipping 2 weapons and recommending mastery/haste gear for arms talents https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rzBbGgtpEekvrL3PZvhxxV
grizzled estuary
blizzard nerfs based on raid 99% of the time. only extreme outliers in m+ gets n...
pls apply that logic to aug so i have a metaslave backup
sacred zodiac
aug is dead no
rare kite
pls apply that logic to aug so i have a metaslave backup <:deadge:90027992713857...
that's why i said extreme outliers. like aug
grizzled estuary
hoo right sry mb mate miss that part, i know they wont and iknow ur right too :d
arctic fjord
They nerf us to middle of the pack and then 4p kicks in and we will be last agai...
happens with so many specs when they are good in the beginning, so much that they actually need buffs later it's so stupid
rare kite
are arms sims ok? somehow they are equipping 2 weapons and recommending mastery/...
did you swap from furyy to arms but didn't unequip your weapons?
heavy scaffold
did you swap from furyy to arms but didn't unequip your weapons?
first time yes, second time i fixed it
grizzled estuary
copypasta went wrong
heavy scaffold
mb then, sorry. wrong paste i guess
cloud gyro
yeah i guess
lunar remnant
I could totally see arms getting nerfed after a week of blasting normal undermine and few qq’s from the paladin forums just like what happened to fury last season.
maybe they should wait till heroic/mythic raid and M+ releases and see how it all balances out before gutting our target cap..
split cairn
Arms and fury both at around the same dps wise now or arms still pulling way ahead?
rare kite
Arms and fury both at around the same dps wise now or arms still pulling way ahe...
arms is not way ahead, it's just ahead. fury pretty good too
lunar remnant
I wouldn’t say “way” ahead but if played right arms slaps. It’s a bit higher skill ceiling so if you’re comfortable playing fury it may feel a bit clunky at first
rare kite
even when comfortable with arms the spec is just giga weird
lunar remnant
Haha true it does need a rework. I feel like they made a lot of specs easier in 11.1 enhance feels a lot less bloaty and spammy imo Removed some of the fluff, arms needs the same treatment.
split cairn
I'm levelling up a warrior now, been a destro lock for years fancy a change
dim basalt
Arms is anything but bloated
And spammy applies to almost every spec atm
Especially melees
lunar remnant
Er bloated may not be the exact wording but some abilities feel odd
dim basalt
We got rid of Skullsplitter 
lunar remnant
TC and Rend need a rework, SS off GCD please
dim basalt
yee
lunar remnant
The ramp is just a tad too long imo
split cairn
Destro lock is super simple and flows nicely, bm hunter is an absolute cakewalk and for the dps it does its a top tier lol
lunar remnant
My raid leader is BM can confirm shit is nutty with just 4 buttons lol
Blah I’m bored already got two toons through undermine zone.. shit was a lagfest
dim basalt
Including sidequests?
grizzled estuary
didn't SS used to be off-gcd though? or like half a gcd something weird like that
dim basalt
Its half a gcd right now
grizzled estuary
thanks
dim basalt
Not sure if it was ever off the gcd, havent played war before TWW
rare kite
it was passive in legion
good times
hit 2 extra targets but only cleaved execute and ms
dim basalt
Blizz wont do balancing based on this, I hope
untold pewter
Arms is anything but bloated
Comparatively, arms is bloated tbh
Most specs don't have these many things
dim basalt
Tho we do a shit ton of damage regardless
charred brook
Everybody knew we would be op this first week
dim basalt
ye
Next tier some casters will be at least even because of how some fights work
Based on sim dps we are ahead but thats just half the story
thick kelp
its only that high cuz I havent raided yet np
rare kite
its only that high cuz I havent raided yet np
I have not raided as arms in a few tiers now. will bring it down next patch
still arrow
misty sandal
It's so over! We're doomed!
smoky kayak
Arms is anything but bloated
Main rotation isn’t, but wars as a whole are a bit bloated with cooldowns, many of which are redundant
empty pike
Guys, doesn't the mechanic of using parry with intervene on the tank parry range attacks?
cloud gyro
Guys we are op regardless
smoky kayak
Oh arms is 100% getting nerfed. Anyone who thinks otherwise is coping hard lmfao
dim basalt
Main rotation isn’t, but wars as a whole are a bit bloated with cooldowns, many ...
And if you make said cooldowns non-redudant then the main rotation becomes bloated again
cloud gyro
Oh arms is 100% getting nerfed. Anyone who thinks otherwise is coping hard lmfao
Is it a 3% or 5% tho
smoky kayak
And if you make said cooldowns non-redudant then the main rotation becomes bloat...
Mmm no?
rain cipher
Oh arms is 100% getting nerfed. Anyone who thinks otherwise is coping hard lmfao
poor us 😦
dim basalt
They could slap a 10% nerf on us and we would be even with majority of specs lmao
smoky kayak
I’m talking stuff like spear/roar/bs/ravager, there’s a lot of redundancy going on
misty sandal
Oh arms is 100% getting nerfed. Anyone who thinks otherwise is coping hard lmfao
They're going to slap us like they did fire mages because of one boss early in s1 tier
cloud gyro
Idk roar just doesnt feel good to press
smoky kayak
I didn’t say they were necessarily unlikable, just that Wars do have some redundant CD bloat
dim basalt
Spear needs to be removed entirely, so does bs honestly
hollow plover
When do we sweeping strikes in the colossus aoe opener again? After avatar/warbreaker?
rare kite
Is it a 3% or 5% tho
who knows. i personally think it will be a small aura nerf and a nerf to execute(the ability)
dim basalt
When do we sweeping strikes in the colossus aoe opener again? After avatar/warbr...
Before throwing ravager
frank frost
arms finally good let's go gamers
resubbed for this shit
also because goblins are cute
cloud gyro
@rare kite More likely that its slayer specific nerfs
hollow plover
Before throwing ravager
so its charge>cleave>tclap>troar>sweeping strikes>ravager>avatar+warbreaker>stuff to get 10 colossus stacks>demolish?
or am i cooked
frank frost
that's fine, as long as the perception isn't terrible i might actually get into M+ dungeons this time around
dim basalt
so its charge>cleave>tclap>troar>sweeping strikes>ravager>avatar+warbreaker>stuf...
Correct
rare kite
nahh not during it. would ruin comps
cloud gyro
Classic
dim basalt
nahh not during it. would ruin comps
They would do it if it happens early on
frank frost
warlocks without PI for less then 5 minutes 
rare kite
<@137307267975479297> More likely that its slayer specific nerfs
i don't think so personally, i hope that is the case tho. since we play colossus then
dim basalt
Oh fuck yes please only nerf slayer
rare kite
They would do it if it happens early on
nahh, first week rwf they will most likely be on 2nd last boss or last boss. nerfing arms would potentially be detrimental then
either arms gets nerfed before next reset, or it gets nerfed after rwf
empty sluice
cloud gyro
Hard to say how they will balance considering there is no hc week
prime bramble
Pray for a 3% aura nerf
And move on
But I've seen this show a few times now and it's always straight to the shadow realm
cloud gyro
shadow realm (not wildly op)
prime bramble
Current logs show us about even with the other overperformers (before tier)
Early days though, just hoping for not a panic reaction like s1 fury nerfs
empty pike
it's really impossible to believe that there won't be a colossal nerf on the warrior
nimble basin
so its charge>cleave>tclap>troar>sweeping strikes>ravager>avatar+warbreaker>stuf...
Avatar after roar before ss no? @dim basalt
dim basalt
Avatar after roar before ss no? <@136186601092022273>
Thats 1.5 gcds going to practically nothing
meager timber
So playing arms for first time and I have a dumb question:) coming from rogue it feels like there is no defensives. Do I have to stance dance into defensive every big mechanic?
And does spell reflect work in aoe or only when I am specifically targeted
dim basalt
Avatar after roar before ss no? <@136186601092022273>
Oh wait actually youre right
grizzled estuary
is it more or less what breakdown should look like pls?
rare kite
And does spell reflect work in aoe or only when I am specifically targeted
the reflect part for the majority of the time only works when targeted. sometimes you can deflect some aoe things as well, like on last boss mists green ground shit. you get the damage reduction against magic no matter what tho
so worst case scenario it's a dr
meager timber
So it always dmg reductions?
rare kite
also what can or can't be reflected does not really make sense. it's completely up to blizzard
dim basalt
at the very least yes
meager timber
So when I need defensive do I go defensive then Reflect
Or just go arms or just reflect?
Sorry defensive
dim basalt
If its magic damage and you dont need SR then you use def stance + reflect
Otherwise (like GB first boss) only def stance
nimble basin
Need to get used to stance dancing coming from fury lol
meager timber
Ok this is making more sense
dim basalt
You get used to it really fast
rare kite
you use whatever you need to survive. you'll get a feel for it the more you play
meager timber
That makes arms actually feel pretty tanky :0
dim basalt
Because arms is tanky
But lots of people cant deal with stance swapping
As fury it is a lot less punishing because bigger hp pool and more passive dr
rare kite
tbf the passive dr difference is very small in majority of cases. arms has 9% free avoidance and almost everything counts for avoidance
even things you would not expect
hollow plover
Avatar after roar before ss no? <@136186601092022273>
according to this sim its avatar with sweeping strikes
nimble basin
Bit random but, what bind do you all use to change stance?
cloud gyro
Arms was squishy so they gave us 10% stam for free
rare kite
i have it bound to shift+V
nimble basin
according to this sim its avatar with sweeping strikes
Yeh wowhead etc. puts it between roar/ss so basically with ss?
dim basalt
I dont use a macro, I have it on S+E and S+F
hollow plover
Yeh wowhead etc. puts it between roar/ss so basically with ss?
same time
doesnt make much sense to me personally ima be honest
but so be it
nimble basin
Unless we macro it to ss it'll have to be just before I guess.
hollow plover
Unless we macro it to ss it'll have to be just before I guess.
no?
nimble basin
You can press two buttons instantly at the exact same time? Ok
hollow plover
You can press two buttons instantly at the exact same time? Ok
just have keybinds that dont require you to break your hands
nimble basin
Not sure why it would matter doing roar,AV,ss whether a split second apart or whatever.
hollow plover
shiftQ+shiftW is pretty simple to press at the same time ngl
nimble basin
What are we on about here 😂 like, who cares. Press two separate, macro it.
Whatever ha
hollow plover
You can press two buttons instantly at the exact same time? Ok
im js saying that this is very easily doable
thats all
nimble basin
Okay cool
modern spindle
i was in sv yesterday pumped 15m on the trash of the second boss. the no cap aoe is so fun
hollow plover
with your keybinds i'd be scared of fat-fingering my cd's
modern spindle
with your keybinds i'd be scared of fat-fingering my cd's
its about years but yes sometimes that happens
sweet crest
arms still s or a +?
hollow plover
arms still s or a +?
in m+? raid?
sweet crest
m+ and raids lol
sweet crest
is batter then fury now as i can see no?
hollow plover
it will be better once the new 4set is acquired
modern spindle
maybe blizz this season let us enjoy our class
sweet crest
gleaming pebble
^ didnt notice your answer was a while ago
ty for the response, appreciate u
hollow plover
Ian will get too tilted losing in dps meter vs war
?
modern spindle
this looks like pre s1 season fury we was smashing all then 
we got fucked
shadow ibex
I thought he was resto main
hollow plover
he is a healer yea
dim basalt
oh
hollow plover
iirc
shadow ibex
Nerd
dim basalt
Maybe Riots new CEO plays WoW and pays Blizz to let enh stay good
shadow ibex
LMAO
hollow plover
Maybe Riots new CEO plays WoW and pays Blizz to let enh stay good
dylan..
untold trench
Rerolled hunter during raza tier 
dim basalt
Is Bizen not a creator?
untold trench
Walhe got some streaming done, if you enjoy yap in fin
untold trench
Not enough perkele, 1/10
shadow ibex
I only know that word cuz lots of Finnish play on Warhammer mmo private server
untold pewter
Is Bizen not a creator?
Bizen plays whatever is meta usually
Crit used to only send Arms but Blizzard ruined it for him
dim basalt
I see
quaint otter
Not enough perkele, 1/10
you playing now?
astral yarrow
my comms are muted
Mine should be as well kek
crisp crane
arent these removed ?
crisp crane
aaah yeah so kinda removed for this patch 😄
would be awesome to add this info there 🙂
smoky kayak
Again just delayed, we dunno when they’ll be added, but they’ll be added at some point
untold pewter
aaah yeah so kinda removed for this patch 😄
would be awesome to add this info t...
They were never added for "this patch", so they weren't removed
smoky kayak
crisp crane
olive nest
Do we know that we’re actually getting 3?
cloud gyro
If it was only 3 we would be very happy i think
hearty forum
for M+ colossus build should i be filling in rotation with slam for single target bosses?
rare kite
Do we know that we’re actually getting 3?
Well 2 dinars were originally on the track so would assume it's still 2. 3 would be very nice tho
cloud gyro
for M+ colossus build should i be filling in rotation with slam for single targe...
If you have infinite rage yes, but you rarely do
olive nest
2 is very good, 3 would be ultimate satisfaction so I can also guarantee house of cards myth trac
hearty forum
yeah i feel the rage being an issue, especially for execute phase, is it better to hit nothing and keep that >35 rage then to hit slam
olive nest
But still very happy with 2
prime bramble
for M+ colossus build should i be filling in rotation with slam for single targe...
MS > OP > Slam > TC (becomes 3rd when you need to refresh rend)
Is how ST m+ build works i think
hearty forum
ok thank you, and when SS is down the cleave > MS > OP prio is the same right?
cloud gyro
yeah i feel the rage being an issue, especially for execute phase, is it better ...
Basically never press slam unless you are overcapping on rage
fresh spire
hollow plover
ok thank you, and when SS is down the cleave > MS > OP prio is the same right?
op prio depends on dreadnaught vs strength of arms
iirc
in aoe situations at least
cloud gyro
ok thank you, and when SS is down the cleave > MS > OP prio is the same right?
Yes, but dont overcap OP stacks using dreadnaught, and dont use OP stacks on MS
shadow ibex
Yea but I want cdr
grizzled estuary
MS > OP > Slam > TC (becomes 3rd when you need to refresh rend)
i think u rend in ST if u are willing to use anotther bind
slender raptor
Fellas, is arms finally back? I heard that it even performs slightly better than fury
cloud gyro
Fellas, is arms finally back? I heard that it even performs slightly better than...
Fury is op, arms is even better -> GG
hollow plover
Fellas, is arms finally back? I heard that it even performs slightly better than...
its rly good rn
slender raptor
Hell yeah
prime bramble
i think u rend in ST if u are willing to use anotther bind
Archi and others have said the difference between rend and tc isn't worth having a separate keybind i believe
And my brain is smooth as velvet
So it's gone
cloud gyro
You are losing 3 storm bolt casts if you dont use rend !!!
slender raptor
What do you guys prefer in M+, slayer or Colossus?
hollow plover
colo
cloud gyro
Both are fun
prime bramble
Only problem i have with colossus is using stupid ass ravager
swift crown
aaah yeah so kinda removed for this patch 😄
would be awesome to add this info t...
They won't be more delayed than they already were
prime bramble
Gimme bladestorm blizz
hollow plover
Only problem i have with colossus is using stupid ass ravager
why is it a problem
swift crown
they would have literally given out Dinars a few weeks ago (like 4-5 weeks?) in last patch if going by the same timeline
hollow plover
they would have literally given out Dinars a few weeks ago (like 4-5 weeks?) in ...
along with the ring
prime bramble
why is it a problem
Having to give up the most iconic warrior spell to give up maximize damage
hollow plover
Having to give up the most iconic warrior spell to give up maximize damage
ravager vs bladestorm has been a relevant node for a billion years now
hollow plover
already end of season for most people
idk ive been playing all season long no breaks, i woulda liked dinars
as soon as prog is over i get into making gold from boosts
shit's chill asf
prime bramble
ravager vs bladestorm has been a relevant node for a billion years now
And when i need to choose rav > bs it feels bad for me? I'm not trying to make an statements other than I prefer bladestorm lol
hollow plover
And when i need to choose rav > bs it feels bad for me? I'm not trying to make a...
fair ig
I just wouldnt call bladestorm more iconic than ravager
hollow plover
Bladestorm had literal viral memes about it
yall is there any way to get more carved crests atp?
any idea?
arctic mesa
Given the weak outlook and sims for Surv Hunter, looking to make a switch over to warrior for S2. Curious to understand which is the simpler of the two specs to pick up between Arms and Fury? Or doesn't really make a difference?
hollow plover
Given the weak outlook and sims for Surv Hunter, looking to make a switch over t...
arms has more conditionals, so weakauras make your life very easy when playing arms. Its actually not very simple to optimize without weakauras
dim basalt
Fury is a bit simpler but Arms is still easy to pick up
rare kite
Given the weak outlook and sims for Surv Hunter, looking to make a switch over t...
Fury simpler
hollow plover
Fury is incredibly simple yea
thick kelp
Both warrior specs are gonna catch a nerf in a week or two
hollow plover
Both warrior specs are gonna catch a nerf in a week or two
100%
thick kelp
and looking at sims to compare damage is abit xdddddddddddd
rare kite
Both warrior specs are gonna catch a nerf in a week or two
We pray for slayer nerfs. No more highrolling jugg
hearty forum
i have serious rage issues with arms slayer
hollow plover
i have serious rage issues with arms slayer
wdym
dreamy sandal
Surely blizzard will just let warrior be good and somewhat desirable for one patch, right?
tough tangle
Both warrior specs are gonna catch a nerf in a week or two
I haven’t done PTR testing do our cd timings and damage profiles do well with how the fights play out?
thick kelp
I haven’t done PTR testing do our cd timings and damage profiles do well with ho...
no clue
hollow plover
I think fury should get a 2% nerf and arms 3%
dreamy sandal
I haven’t done PTR testing do our cd timings and damage profiles do well with ho...
Execute is really stong in this raid, and we do good ST dmg and cleave on top of that
dreamy sandal
I think fury should get a 2% nerf and arms 3%
I think both should be buffed, warrior supremacy for once would do good for the game
hollow plover
I haven’t done PTR testing do our cd timings and damage profiles do well with ho...
i heard our cd timings are less desirable in the new raid, but we'll likely make up for it with anger management shenanigans and a disgustingly strong execute phase as arms on 2nd and 3rd to last boss
tough tangle
Hear me out this may be a hot take but I don’t really think it is:
With how poor our utility is compared to other specs and classes we should be compensated with a higher end damage profiles, only seems fair to me
hollow plover
I think both should be buffed, warrior supremacy for once would do good for the ...
do you hate warrior? my guy if that happens we'll get giga gutted
hollow plover
Hear me out this may be a hot take but I don’t really think it is:
With how po...
classic wow player?
snow flame
I haven’t done PTR testing do our cd timings and damage profiles do well with ho...
yes
dreamy sandal
do you hate warrior? my guy if that happens we'll get giga gutted
Im saying we should get to be good for once. For that to happen we need to do insane dps, no other reason to invite a warrior.
hollow plover
Im saying we should get to be good for once. For that to happen we need to do in...
We have been good in multiple tiers
dreamy sandal
And then for blizz to just let it happen, like they did with shammys
hollow plover
just not as consistently broken as the favored specs
tough tangle
Ok he wants to be broken for a change
hollow plover
i just drop to 0 rage so easily, no OP charges left to build rage
in execute sure, but outside of execute ?
hearty forum
yeah even outside execute
dreamy sandal
We have been good in multiple tiers
Sure in raid we are usually Fine, but in m+ we are not desirable
tough tangle
You got shaman buff Walter?
hollow plover
yeah even outside execute
what
burnt flint
Is there a place for recommended weak auras in here for arms?
hollow plover
Sure in raid we are usually _Fine_, but in m+ we are not desirable
bro utility is king in m+ what do u expect
tough tangle
Ya pay $5 for atrocity pack
north lake
^
hollow plover
Is there a place for recommended weak auras in here for arms?
pick your favourite idk
theres so many
hollow plover
im not sure man, i follow wowhead prio and cant seem to keep rage up
change BB to BS
quaint otter
bro utility is king in m+ what do u expect
hollow plover
that might help you
dreamy sandal
bro utility is king in m+ what do u expect
Exactly, and as blizz has deemed us not worthy of good utility, we should be compensated with insane dmg
hollow plover
Exactly, and as blizz has deemed us not worthy of good utility, we should be com...
absolutely not
dreamy sandal
Or you know
hollow plover
I'd rather not be useless right after
dreamy sandal
just give us utility
quaint otter
godzillion damage is the best utility
hollow plover
giving us utility is good idea
dreamy sandal
it is what it is
hollow plover
more dmg bad
tough tangle
Bro it’s been 84 years and there hasn’t been utility lmao devs are lazy just turn the knob and make damage pop off call it a day
hearty forum
change BB to BS
bb?
hollow plover
im not sure man, i follow wowhead prio and cant seem to keep rage up
bloodborne to bloodsurge
they are equivalent in dmg
one gives more rage tho
and if ur already running bloodsurge and still starved for rage
dreamy sandal
Just make Rallying cry better on 5 targets, give us like a bloodlust or something, and whatever else they can come up with
hollow plover
then idk
hollow plover
Just make Rallying cry better on 5 targets, give us like a bloodlust or somethin...
I wish we had a knockup
genuinely
a barbaric table flip type thing
dreamy sandal
I wish we had a knockup
Wait, dont we?
Shockwave knocks up as arms no?
or am i delusional
shadow ibex
My utility
rare kite
I wish we had a knockup
Colossus has
hollow plover
as colossus yea
shadow ibex
Is 
hollow plover
but im talkin seperate
regal prism
A Thunderclap with our hands to rez a dead body
dreamy sandal
but im talkin seperate
Sure, but we already have decent stuns, I think we need more group utility
hollow plover
A Thunderclap with our hands to rez a dead body
cables
dreamy sandal
Genuinly bloodlust would fix a lot of things, for pug-ability at least
regal prism
Like a Brave heart roar into battle
dreamy sandal
We would actually get invites
hollow plover
we will already get more invites
with have big pp dmg rn and aug is less desirable
dreamy sandal
we will already get more invites
Cause we have good dmg yes, but it does not solve the problem of having more utility
hollow plover
hell nah
dreamy sandal
if that is all that we are
shadow ibex
makes sense the class that is a master of weapons utility is killing fast 
hollow plover
every peak is followed up by the biggest drop you can imagine
dreamy sandal
Just dont nerf us, and we are good
I would not be against a dmg drop if it came with utility and an actual dev
north lake
how much worse is slayer M+ than colossus
spark mango
guys why dont i like the recklessness talent under avatar in arms?
its in every guide but i simply dont see the diffrence specially in m+
shadow ibex
Slayer m+ is p bad
hollow plover
how much worse is slayer M+ than colossus
more st less aoe
shadow ibex
Bs does no dam
hollow plover
but not significantly more st to make up for the worse aoe
icy mulch
And merciless bone grinder really pumps cleave damoooge.
spark mango
its like the other one with cleave Cd reduction i can actually feel like having a end talent
spark mango
so if you go in charge thunder clap for rend, into cleave then roar into avatar + warbreaker and doing normal rotation, you have reckless buff for that demolish?
or you do it some other way to have recklessness for demolish
hollow plover
so if you go in charge thunder clap for rend, into cleave then roar into avatar ...
cleave first, then tclap please
always
hollow plover
so if you go in charge thunder clap for rend, into cleave then roar into avatar ...
charge>cleave>tclap>troar>sweeping strikes>ravager>avatar+warbreaker>stuff to get 10 colossus stacks>demolish
spark mango
charge>cleave>tclap>troar>sweeping strikes>ravager>avatar+warbreaker>stuff to ge...
you sure with this your demolish is buffed by recklessness?
i lost the buff 1 sec before demolish and i even used mortal strike to get to 10 stack faster
hollow plover
you sure with this your demolish is buffed by recklessness?
10 stack demolish > reck + demolish
also when you go from pack to pack
you passively keep up a 10 stack demolish ready
also you can try running an aoe sim with that build, you'll see an example opener
but tbf sim apl isnt fully complete yet iirc
spark mango
yeah i think 6 second of recklessness at start of avatar can be just a sim bait. doesnt apply well in all situations, as personal preference i wont run this for now
because i know i cant make it have the impact its supposed to have
shadow ibex
Sweeping and ravager give more stacks
6 seconds is a lot of globals with iftk
It's possible for sure. Sim misses it by 1 global but it's rng ish really
spark mango
unhinged doesnt cleave with sweeping tho
compact rover
would y'all consider arms to be easy, medium, or hard to execute well in a raid and mythic+ environment?
hollow plover
would y'all consider arms to be easy, medium, or hard to execute well in a raid ...
pretty easy once you get the basic know-how
shadow ibex
unhinged doesnt cleave with sweeping tho
You get stacks as if it did
hollow plover
for raid you'll need some weakauras to make it significantly easier
shadow ibex
You can also start demo at 9 stack and unhinged tick will send to 10 before final hit
To get the reck window
spark mango
yeah fair enough you can always squeeze it in.
untold pewter
would y'all consider arms to be easy, medium, or hard to execute well in a raid ...
Medium to hard compared to other specs to perform at a very high level
Which doesn't mean it's a medium to hard spec to learn, but there's definitely a lot more room for optimization which involves tracking all the conditionals and different cooldowns than most other specs in the game
tough tangle
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olive nest
Press all buttons on cd as much as possible and you’re like 80 percentile
untold pewter
Pretty much yeah
But you'll not get above that
Then again, that's true for most specs kek
olive nest
Tru
shadow ibex
Keep stuff with charges and a cooldown on cooldown
untold pewter
Yeah like, in theory it's all easy the questions start appearing when there's downtime (especially on Colossus) and you start getting weird timers on cds because stuff isn't lining up and you might find yourself unsure if what you're doing is correct or not
This just isn't the case with most specs, certainly not with Fury, for example
calm kernel
just follow the conditionals. 3x mfe 2x sd jugg falling off sd falling off
Just to confirm, the conditionals are all 'or' statements correct?
3x MfE and 2x SD vs 3x MfE or 2x SD?
hollow plover
Just to confirm, the conditionals are all 'or' statements correct?
3x MfE *and* ...
or, yea
calm kernel
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shadow ibex
Dstance on cd
olive nest
SwEePiNg StRiKeS oN sT bOsS cHaTtEr SaID sO
dull siren
*some* common sense required
Would've been good if they tanked boss ontop of the bugged book while it was bugged
olive nest
Would've been good if they tanked boss ontop of the bugged book while it was bug...
Ethical raider no 🪵 pad surely
shadow ibex
Can't wait to ethically execute bosses
untold pewter
Dude yes
I never minded being hidden in the meters until 35% and then suddenly #1-2
That's the gAmEr m0v3
olive nest
I enjoy that too
untold pewter
It's first boss, inting allowed
shadow ibex
True
shadow ibex
And fury run am p sure
shadow ibex
I think dmg amp is hitting with bikes
Idk how long that takes tho
It's also first so who cares. Trex fight has insane good arms timers on testing tho