#arms

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reef glade
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they kinda are just yappers

thick kelp
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my arms sim was just shy of 2million

reef glade
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not exactly optimize just what im wearing

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and 626 transmitter cuz game bad

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yepge

sharp wyvern
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Transmitter got nerfed anyway

reef glade
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by 5% oh noes

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unusable

fair topaz
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I am now rocking sacbrood and ovinax since transmitter nerf

rare kite
fair topaz
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With the extra plus side of no lame ass minigame

slow saddle
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i cant believe WE RLY are using Finishing blows

sharp wyvern
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Ovi egg does have a minigame

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If used optimally

reef glade
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u mean exhil blows?

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i rly like that talent man

thick kelp
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Fury gear moment

reef glade
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actually so much dopa

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but like it insta saps your rage

rare kite
reef glade
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o cool

slow saddle
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That talent needs to be Baked into battlelord

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!

minor gust
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FB saves colossus M+ execute phase

thick kelp
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it doesnt

minor gust
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better than nothing

midnight mural
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Most likely helping out a race to world last guild with killing queen tonight - do i go arms for the giga-fat execute damage in p3 - or is it not that big of a difference from fury? Their damage is turbo-low and they are trying to skip 2nd ring.

slow saddle
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OK

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ALLOW ME

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TO cry

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my last vault

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Ara-kara sacbrood

slow saddle
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FR BLIZZARD FR ?

thick kelp
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full ST dink donk

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you will astro gap anyone

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starting from pull

midnight mural
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ok master

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we smash some arms

thick kelp
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unless they specifically cant kill the adds

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but even arms does good dam to them

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if u just get cleave or smth

midnight mural
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u mean the gloom hatchlings?

thick kelp
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yeah in p3

midnight mural
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i mean even if im arms i sitll have roar + BS for them

thick kelp
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yeah but fury gets roar bs of for them

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xdd

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so it really depends

rare kite
midnight mural
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i think they should be able to kill them

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yeah ill stream - i did yesterday too

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think the vod is up

thick kelp
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Yeah if they can do some damage to them

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you can kill them easily

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with arms roar + bs

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and just crank boss dam

midnight mural
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ye

thick kelp
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be ethical and ask for a PI too

midnight mural
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hehe

minor gust
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if the guild has a decent amount of prog on queen no way they dont kill this week

rare kite
thick kelp
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What time are you starting tonight

minor gust
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We are so giga juiced from the patch

midnight mural
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22:00-00:00 deadge

thick kelp
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Hooly

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late ahh

midnight mural
minor gust
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we phased Queen at 36% tonight

midnight mural
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lul

thick kelp
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your ovinax egg WA LMAO

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whole ahh bar

rare kite
midnight mural
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not gonna play with egg tonight tho

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i will bring the biggest dikk i have ๐Ÿ˜„

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actually smoll because its mechagnome.. but main ๐Ÿ˜„

rose matrix
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Do you ever send Execute when below 40 rage?

eager sigil
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yea

rare kite
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transmitter getting outsimmed as fury. feelsgoodman

midnight mural
rare kite
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don't have mark at 639, but this is good enough

midnight mural
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afaik the difference was very little for me both as fury and arms

rare kite
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i have negative crit, so will prob be a big difference

thick kelp
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(this is a colossus sim)

reef glade
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dude

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flawless ara 13 run we're doing so much dmg

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priest heal doesnt know how to not die to 2nd boss cahrge

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is 2 ft away from boss every time

quasi field
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Transmitter giga rip now?

rare kite
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transmitter outsimming 639 skarmorak

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for arms

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prob coz i need the haste

reef glade
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and cuz 14k strength is still 500x better than 7k mast

dire copper
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Just remember the offset of needing to do transmitter - no matter how consistently or quickly you can do it, it is NEVER as efficient as the sims

rare kite
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i mean you control where it goes

midnight mural
rich ridge
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I got 1/8 veteran weapon. Is it worth upgrading to 645 or should I save my crest?

midnight mural
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huhh.. was it not supposed to get nerfed by 20% or somthn?

rare kite
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5% xD

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tiny ass nerf

midnight mural
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oh

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lol

rare kite
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which is why it surprised me that skarmorak shard outsimmed it as fury

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but i'll take it

reef glade
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bro 150 valorstones for doin a key?

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maybe they werent kidding in their post

midnight mural
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i really hope that doesnt change

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Hmm how much of a dps loss is it to play with roaring queens citrine instead of the allstats one?

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personally - not like raidwide

eager sigil
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it was like 4 or 5% for me

midnight mural
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Hmm.. thats like 90-100k dps with a 2mil ST sim

eager sigil
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you could just sim it yourself

azure sable
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do we now anything about the buoillons/token that was in reputation but they removed it?

midnight mural
scarlet urchin
eager sigil
reef glade
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m+

misty yew
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any changes to arms if i play standard colossus aoe build with ravager in this patch

thick kelp
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no

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your cleave just does more damage

lethal lodge
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should it stop at 4/6 chapters?

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now it says 7 days for me

dim basalt
lethal lodge
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okay the rest next week then ^^

brittle fiber
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pff

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lmfao

magic canopy
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goodge

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can only go to 645 but nice to get early

reef glade
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now thats an overall

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nice 22m demolish crit

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15m cleave crit

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can we get our 5% buff back tho pls

viral locust
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Sorry if this asked before but do we run the builds posted this week? Or are they with S2 tier set in mind?

reef glade
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think u just run same build regardless

brittle fiber
reef glade
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just did more keys in the last 3 hours than i have in the last 3 months

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poggers

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(4)

brittle fiber
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keys?

reef glade
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yea s1 keys still out

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with i think s2 scaling

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so like the dungeons are way easier per level

brittle fiber
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oh do you get stones or

reef glade
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doing 12/13s feel like 10s

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ya also getting 150 valorstones per dungeon

brittle fiber
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loot or

reef glade
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this may be a good method to pad some io to get invited to keys

daring heron
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oh thats a lot

brittle fiber
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yea wtf

reef glade
daring heron
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im gonna pad io for sure

reef glade
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i mean i gained 100 in this sesh

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who said warriors cant pug chatting

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(upped 2 12s and like 1 13 xd)

daring heron
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gonna stomp some 18/19/20 keys with buffed woyer

reef glade
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real

visual fern
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THIS IS HOW WE GET NERFED

reef glade
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surely can pug into like 16s that are the same difficulty as old 12s

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and get 3.3k score

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and look good to cretins next season

daring heron
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i just need to make sure to play with other op classes right

visual fern
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They dodge the nerfbat every time

magic canopy
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i like how every day im telling myself i need to go to bed at a good time

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yet here i am

visual fern
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I went to bed at 10pm

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Woke up at 4

minor gust
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surely we don't get two nerfs in a row

reef glade
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have class at 2 pm and its 5 am

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thoughts

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still want to play

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but should lay down

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solo pug life

daring heron
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I've had solid 7-8 hours consistently for 2 months now

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sleeping enough actually feels good whoda thunk

grizzled estuary
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man the mental do you give classes

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im not patient enough for that

visual fern
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Or @daring heron

magic canopy
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clips?

visual fern
reef glade
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i sent one

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do i win

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i bnetter win

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it was a good one

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the fuck

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flashbang

visual fern
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Ok I

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Shouldn't have used fwd

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LMAO

daring heron
visual fern
reef glade
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i seem to not be there

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very odd

visual fern
reef glade
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this was literally me

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to 3 web blades and waves

thick kelp
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Dodged EZ

reef glade
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on the edge of the platform

visual fern
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Soggos just a better version of yours though

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Unlucky....

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๐Ÿ˜”

reef glade
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naw

visual fern
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I saw yours and was like "yo he got feet"

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I saw his and was like "wtf is this magic"

thick kelp
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Soggo clip is

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magic

reef glade
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ok i mean thats just like cheating

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actually popped bubble

minor gust
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Man just got hops

reef glade
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na i mean looking at it

visual fern
reef glade
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its not even like he was in the third when second went in

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he was actually just in the travel path

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of both web blades in both sets

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and they just decided not to touch him

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interesting game

visual fern
thick kelp
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Just jump 4head

visual fern
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MAGIC

rare kite
reef glade
eager current
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so new m0 is not out yet?

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also will we keep the valorstones?

visual blaze
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they reset to 0

visual blaze
icy mulch
magic canopy
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my sleep schedule is demonic right no

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now

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i work weekends so i end up staying up late sunday and it haunts me til friday when i go back to work

magic canopy
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the worst side effect is it means im never awake for lunch specials around town

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tho i dont eat out that often

icy mulch
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I'm use to not getting sleep, but now that I've had a couple years of base side posting, I enjoy a regular hours job.

magic canopy
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i just shove all my weeks hours into the weekend

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then have most the week off

icy mulch
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Must be nice, lol

magic canopy
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took forever to actually get my schedule set up this way

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but now that i have it, it owns

icy mulch
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You streaming today?

grizzled estuary
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guys please i just browsed wowheadguides (tyvm!) can you please confirm that we dont play around ToM? not sure i understood properly

magic canopy
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or well i will later tonight

raw hollow
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hey guys, general thoughts.... Im thinking spear to help buff cleave and MS over roar on mobs that wont last long enough to get the full effect of the roar... waht are peoples thoughts on that

icy mulch
magic canopy
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i think everyone in the wow catagory is

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unless im wrong

icy mulch
icy mulch
grizzled estuary
dim basalt
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Happens to the best of us

icy mulch
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Blizzard, smol indy company. Gotta reuse them icons.

nimble basin
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ah i was doing av with warbreaker, for the col opener. Rotation on wowhead says just after Roar before SS. Will do that now just curious if it makes a big difference?

icy mulch
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Depends, you want stupid burst or just big damage overall?

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AV = Alterac Valley, yes?

raw hollow
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does ss stack with bm torment or does one override the other?

magic canopy
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or gives you 8 seconds of sweeping if its down

raw hollow
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does ss add to the 8 seconds or override that

icy mulch
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They stack

magic canopy
magic canopy
kind saffron
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if the wowhead aoe opener you're talking about is roar > SS > ravager > WB, you are losing 20% damage amp roar and ravager tick(s) * n targets in return for 1 extra gcd in avatar

this won't matter much in st or very small target count but it's an aoe opener so if it's a respectable target count you probably want to avatar sooner rather than later for those ticks

nimble basin
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anyways

dim basalt
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Avatar only increases the initial damage of roar afaik

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And ravager does little damage so it doesnt matter much either

summer sluice
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Hey guys, u have talent build arms 11.1?

kind saffron
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Regardless you definitely should keep it the way you have it now! What's important is that it's there during cs so your unhinged will catch the buff too.

You don't want to put roar and avatar together because the initial damage gcd of roar is almost certainly less valuable than pretty much any other gcd you could use the avatar duration on instead. To say nothing of the mental arithmetic if you ever talent into short roar being on the same button.

So you're good ๐Ÿ™‚

dim basalt
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Check guides

summer sluice
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link pls I can't find the current one

dim basalt
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Brother

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Are you just lazy

velvet crater
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hiya

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Anybody has any intel on RHC loot this week? Is it new season's Adventurer/Veteran loot or last season? I'm still in the middle of rerolling back to my warrior... :/

icy mulch
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RHC?

velvet crater
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Random Heroic dungeons

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Since m0 is not available this week, this is the maximum difficulty

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Well, this, or old m+

icy mulch
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Oh, no, very few things are new tracks yet. Everything kicks off next reset.

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This is a rep grind, storyline week.

velvet crater
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My two epics from the weeky coffers were new track

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So here I was hoping

icy mulch
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You could do delves but that stuff is resetting as well.

velvet crater
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Yea, I'd rather not spend coffer keys for a +4 delve when I can spend the same on +8 next week.

icy mulch
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Yup

velvet crater
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I guess I'll just take next wednesday as day off and grind from morning till the evening raid ๐Ÿ˜„

icy mulch
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There is a ton of catch up gear from things like siren isles and war band items.

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How bad are we talking here?

velvet crater
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Oh I know, I'm 625 rn

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Did a few +10s the past week but I cba to grind 150+ gilded on last week of the season ๐Ÿ˜„

icy mulch
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Oh, you're fine as a starting point then.

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I was thinking you had a fresh 80 and sub 600 ilvl keks

velvet crater
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Thankfully not ๐Ÿ˜„ Been delving with the warr all season 1 as I still loved it even tho I was ret main for some seasons now. So luckily I had some base gear ๐Ÿ˜„

icy mulch
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Ret main..... you're dead to me.

velvet crater
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I was a warrior main for 12 years, but got fed up with the absolute pisstake which was our melee range back in DF S1

dim basalt
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So the solution is to play a fake melee

velvet crater
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Now I'm back in Brown tho, no regrets. Raid team needed the buff so I gladly volunteered ๐Ÿ˜„

icy mulch
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Lol

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Fair enough.

severe haven
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Time to hop on to test once more live

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Look at big numbers feel good

obtuse copper
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@halcyon breach What if we kissed under the warrior nerf section in patch notes??

rare kite
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Hello uheldigt you coming back? @obtuse copper

restive ore
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hi

obtuse copper
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Henlo Mutou gamer I am in fact not coming back but maybe for Legion classic

restive ore
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whats the prediction for Arms in raid and M+ for 11.1
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i have heard that itll be great, but i have also heard that its trash

quaint otter
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๐Ÿซณ
๐Ÿ”ฎ

obtuse copper
median scroll
sacred zodiac
gaunt owl
severe haven
limpid apex
halcyon breach
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the 5% nerf truly have me in shambles

slow saddle
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Cant wait for em to miss the mark by nerfing ms and later buffing aura

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5%

swift crown
floral ledge
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first key

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arms looking good

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31m cleave

molten zenith
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demolish is bugged, if the target dies im stuck in animation?

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anyone having this happen?

half junco
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is that Lazel in your key

rose matrix
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In execute if you have nothing else to press do you just send execute below 40 rage?

visual fern
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PILAV CHAT W

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HE'S BACK

floral ledge
obtuse copper
eager sigil
quasi torrent
quasi torrent
halcyon breach
quasi torrent
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EMOTE STEALER

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I made all those

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!!!!!!

visual fern
visual fern
quasi torrent
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lazel slurs less than the average swede tbh

halcyon breach
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Very proud of Lazel for that one

quasi torrent
visual fern
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O

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Yah fair I can see that

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I just see him as like

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Tyler1 type personality for wow

thick kelp
visual fern
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On retail?

karmic ledge
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How we looking day 1?

eager sigil
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im looking good

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thanks for asking

thick kelp
visual fern
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Explains a lot

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Last time I saw his stream was nerubar palace release

thick kelp
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he got kicked from onlyfangs

visual fern
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And then the OF kick

thick kelp
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so he came to retail

visual fern
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Yah

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O

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Thought he was just done after

thick kelp
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even trialed in a raiding guild for a week

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kicked dur to racism wcys

visual fern
thick kelp
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o wait no

cloud gyro
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He didnt develop personally in 10 years

thick kelp
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it was not racism

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wrong guild kick

cloud gyro
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happens

sacred zodiac
last inlet
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because of this lag, my demolish is locking my toon up for an extra 5 seconds

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xD

charred quest
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This lag is horrendous hopefully todays maintenance fixes it

last inlet
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yea

raw bison
vital mulch
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I've had zero lag all day.

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But In warmode less people in my shards i guess

sacred zodiac
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noob mode

quaint pewter
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duration on bladestorm was changes?

vital mulch
sacred zodiac
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get cooked buddy

slow saddle
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Shards struggelin

visual fern
quasi torrent
visual fern
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Was just background noise

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I started paying attention for maybe 10min

quasi shore
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is there any reason why people run blunt instrument instead of warbreaker for slayer?

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for m+ that is

rain cipher
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Is Sweaping Strike a baseline ability?

stable zodiac
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Is colossus for single target raid viable option?

eager sigil
fallen agate
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I am happy to see they put the animation back on Execute for Sweeping Strikes again.

fierce heart
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we are so back guys Arms

icy mulch
bleak fog
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We as so back in S1 aswell (Fury at the time)..

fierce heart
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I knew sticking with arms throughout s1 would pay off

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now we just need to dodge punitive nerfs

floral ledge
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SV

icy mulch
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?

steep osprey
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I am losing it

steep osprey
steep osprey
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susge

unkempt burrow
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Just got the feeling that war is going to get a nerf after a month๐Ÿ˜‚

gaunt owl
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Arms gonna get kneecapped first week

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because its not Legs spec

devout pewter
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Just wanted to put out a big thank you to @smoky kayak and the other contributors that also help people here a lot (you know who you are<3) for the great work on every single patch and every single day on here helping people!
And also, get well soon Archi!

icy mulch
slow saddle
slow saddle
rain cipher
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Is there a WA that help when to send MS in the execution phase?

slow saddle
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Just send?

icy mulch
icy mulch
signal oriole
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So is the consensus arms is rather strong?

upbeat pelican
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I think the consensus is that both arms and fury are rather strong

void bay
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both are crushing my bm hunter that is 11 ilevels higher

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gonna try MM in a bit

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but yah, warrior is good

upbeat pelican
signal oriole
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Oh no.....

grizzled hare
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Can't have Warrior outperform all those Ret players. 69% nerf incoming next week

void bay
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templar feels terrible to play (to me)

midnight mural
stable zodiac
shadow ibex
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You would have to sim yourself and find out

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We can't tell you how much difference they are for you. Some sims are within 1% and ppl don't care so they play what they want

slow saddle
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Sucks they fucked demos execute

shadow ibex
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Yea

signal oriole
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Slayer jug execute feels good now though.

shadow ibex
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It makes prio also funky

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Do you MS on cd or x2 EP

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Obviously sim answer

slow saddle
shadow ibex
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But this should be apparent in game

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Not go check sim apl

signal oriole
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I can prio execute depending on rage taking a cleave build without having SC

slow saddle
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So still sucks ok

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Juggernaut as a talent that id

upbeat pelican
icy mulch
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Good, Ret can be the training wheel class, but it shouldn't be amazing at everything.

shadow ibex
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Colossus has 0 procs and you just stack a buff that goes away when you cast the big ability. It's pretty barebones tbh

severe haven
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is anyone here using some Collateral Damage/Colossal Might weak aura?

upbeat pelican
slow saddle
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Not last patch either?

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When u did insane dmg?

raw bison
trail orbit
urban field
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thats gotta be bait idk if ive heard a single person say current ret does not feel good

dawn notch
trail orbit
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I think long time ret players are happy with this iteration theyโ€™ve had as opposed to prior awful iterations of ret. But pallies also complain about everything.

steep osprey
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should I do these quests on my main or my alt?

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since it's all acc wide

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i need items for my scuffed alt

trail orbit
dawn notch
shadow ibex
severe haven
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may be a little OCD but I kinda wanna see them was looking to see if i can copy before having to write my own

upbeat pelican
midnight mural
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lol arms pipes right now pipes

olive nest
slow saddle
smoky kayak
neat phoenix
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hey looking at the wowhead and just confirming we dont rend in execute because of Bloodletting right

smoky kayak
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correct

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technically reapplying Rend is a high level priority, but on a practical level you're almost never in a situation where Rend isn't already rolling once you hit 35%

neat phoenix
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okay thanks! Just getting back into arms since SL wanting to make sure im ready for raid

serene hollow
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even if rend isn't up sub 35%, it's just better to press mortal strike anyway right

shadow ibex
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I wish we had more mid tier talents

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The rendless dream

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If rend isn't up sub 35 cuz intermission or something yes just use MS to apply it

smoky kayak
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Mortal Strike will also reapply it, yes

shadow ibex
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No need to rend queen when u get back to her after intermission if she's at 33% ms will do it

charred quest
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anyone else try a NW last night when you went up to stitch room and you couldn't walk straight with your char?

dreamy egret
smoky kayak
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Hekili is a great starting point yes

dreamy egret
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I am a hekili enjoyer.

neat phoenix
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I have it, I generally try to not need it by the time raid starts but I'll have it on back up

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Is it already updated for 11.1?

dreamy egret
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Im glad the wowhead guide says slayer is the better option, I like passive

neat phoenix
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okay thanks I'll use it for now till I get comfortable

smoky kayak
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hekili gets a bad wrap because people think it performs poorly, but outside of exceptional situations, it probably plays better than most people do (especially for rotations with complicated conditionals)

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everyone likes to think they're smarter than the machine, but the machines are pretty good these days!

smoky kayak
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I don't enjoy them just because I don't like following button prompts, it feels less like playing a game to me; the whole idea of mastery in WoW (for me) how well I perform in the moment, whether I choose to make the right decision, not how well I can play DDR

jaunty nest
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AI is going to rule is all some day! ๐Ÿ˜„

gaunt owl
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can our machine overlord rise up faster plz

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i wanna get plugged into the matrix

shadow ibex
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i think thats just hardcore classic

gaunt owl
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i was promised flying car when i was a kid

nimble basin
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is there a way to summon the new mount, using your normal mount bind? macro? addon? how you all doing it lol

upbeat pelican
nimble basin
neat phoenix
smoky kayak
smoky kayak
upbeat pelican
nimble basin
smoky kayak
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yeah there are probably some addons which use zone detection that can do it

hard cedar
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So I've pretty much played a Spriest since vanilla with the occasional alt. It wasn't until Legion that I really played a Warrior seriously though last season I leveled a Ret (who get to have their cake and eat it too and then also get second cake) but I have to play warrior this raid so we have battle shout and rallying cry but man, why can't they just make Anger Management a flat CD reduction for CS to 30s and BS/Rav to 1m and Avatar either 1m or 2m? Having all these CD's get desynced sucks balls.

steep osprey
smoky kayak
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but just regularly, no, you don't summon it as a mount because it's not actaully a mount

shadow ibex
steep osprey
#

Yo Archi, I remembered that BFA rotation for Fury was pretty much the perfect one you were talking about

smoky kayak
steep osprey
#

BT on cd, raging blow as filler, rampage/execute when you can

#

and they moved away from it

smoky kayak
shadow ibex
#

fury for a long timew as BT filler filler BT

smoky kayak
#

from 5.4 -> 9.0 yeah

steep osprey
#

It feels bad to not use a rotational ability

hard cedar
steep osprey
#

no matter how you spin it

#

the fact that raging blow exists like this is a travesty

shadow ibex
#

i missed that fury it was like a character action game

smoky kayak
steep osprey
#

Yeah some still do

#

Marksmanship, BM

shadow ibex
#

fury also had the fixed CD that was X globals as well

#

idr what it was

neat phoenix
#

I'm assuming the answer is just always sim yourself but why does the arms SIM show almos 16k haste and 10k crit but wowhead says crit > haste? Is there a condition that changes that like house of cards or best in slots weapon?

steep osprey
#

if you can always use an ability and it does the most damage, what's the point of other abilities?

#

this is exactly what raging blow is

shadow ibex
#

but BT filler filler BT + exe like every third or whatever CD was very rhythmic i guess?

steep osprey
#

I think they prefer this because it wouldn't last so long if it didn't

#

in DF we had a tier set to press BT after a few rampages

#

and we didn't press it otherwise (if it wasn't buffed to crit)

shadow ibex
#

i can see how ppl could get bored with the bt x x bt stuff cuz it was supposed to be furious spammy berserker ig?

steep osprey
#

it's similar now

shadow ibex
#

but idk

hard cedar
#

s3 DF fury was so simple and smooth

shadow ibex
#

the APM was what made it fun for me

#

and keep that rhythm despite insane apm

steep osprey
#

S3 df was the opposite problem where u just use BT

#

and didn't touch Raging blow unless u couldn't press BT

silk spade
#

df s3 was peak fury

steep osprey
#

I can't play this fury

#

it's cringe

#

i'll just play shaman

silk spade
steep osprey
hard cedar
#

People wanted CD's every trash pack

silk spade
#

you said bt

#

it was slam

steep osprey
#

Slam was basically RB

quasi torrent
#

sl@m

steep osprey
#

My ideal gameplay is bfa fury

#

bt on cd, raging blow as filler

#

that's it

#

Focusing on either is bad

shadow ibex
#

idk if thats a bit too close to arms since MS is every 4th global as well but i did like bfa fury

steep osprey
#

Has anyone played Bioshock?

#

Undermine reminds me a lot of Rapture

shadow ibex
#

andrew ryan

#

was named after ayn rand

steep osprey
#

who

shadow ibex
#

russian philosopher who wrote the shit rapture was inspired by

hard cedar
#

Undermine is cool but there's so much shit on the screen it's distracting for my little adhd brain

steep osprey
#

does it matter what cartel i choose

hard cedar
#

nah, it's all cosmetic

proper coyote
hard cedar
#

Hekili's good but you should disable CD's on it.

wide pebble
#

@olive nest yo do you play in the guild โ€œFiendโ€ on Illidan?

olive nest
#

This will be my third tier with them if you include DF s4

proper coyote
wide pebble
# olive nest Yessir

You guys just got a DH yesterday named Helltaken. Heโ€™s cracked. I ran keys with him late last night and 2-chested a 17 Ara Kara. Heโ€™s top 12 HDH in the world on raider.io

#

Also, W Arms Warrior. Skyhold rise up

olive nest
#

Ye heโ€™s good heโ€™s part of a merger guild we just consumed

vestal isle
#

Can I trust the sim list maxroll has put out for trinkets?

#

heroic trinket from delves feels kindave bad for 3rd

hard cedar
# proper coyote I would say toggle as needed

I know you can enable it so they only show up in boss fights, but even then, there's times you want to hold CDs for a damage amp or adds and it'll stay on the CD recommendation. I mainly like it for tracking when to use MS during execute phase and Rend buff before that.

fresh spire
#

It's not wrong

#

Hc delve trinkets own

#

Mech/sussy especially good

proper coyote
pseudo crow
#

arms is more difficulte to play than fury no ?

dim basalt
#

A bit

balmy kindle
#

why is fatality taken on colo ST as per wowhead

lean geode
hexed saddle
pseudo crow
#

i feel like aoe rotation is more difficult in arms spe, than fury

lean geode
#

Aoe opener probably is

dim basalt
#

Thats because fury does not have one

lean geode
#

The main rotation isn't too complex tho

untold pewter
#

There's just more stuff to track on Arms

#

Once you get that it's not really difficult

cloud gyro
#

Idk ive played a bunch of different specs and arms is pretty up there

serene hollow
#

the order of operations on the aoe opener is not super intuitive imo, but single target is very straight forward

naive sage
#

Arms is more difficult than fury, while still being a quite easy spec with some things to track and care about that give a little spice

cloud gyro
#

Yeah on st its pretty straight forward

#

But colossus m+ is suuuper hard to play optimally

quasi torrent
quaint otter
trail orbit
#

The hardest part learning arms is do you slam your cds or is it better to hold

wide pebble
#

Positioning your demolishes is an important aspect that takes a little bit to master. Predicting tank kiting

spark wasp
#

When I use demolish since 11.1 launch it cast the ability then I get stuck in place as if Iโ€™m levitating canโ€™t use abilityโ€™s until I jump then I can move and use abilityโ€™s again is this a bug or something on my end happening? Before 11.1 no issue

quaint otter
#

Or just press shockwave into demo

trail orbit
#

Was getting stuck in treasure boxes as well

spark wasp
#

Haha nice yea I assume issue is server side but odd couldnโ€™t find any thing after googling it

charred quest
#

is this worth doing for carved crests?

hollow plover
#

up to u to decide if its worth your valorstones, really

trail orbit
#

I always horde my crests until doing hard keys.

hollow plover
#

crests less relevant

charred quest
#

ahh true

shadow ibex
#

yea valor stones are more annoying than low lvl crests

#

its not gonna ruin your patch launch spending some stones

charred quest
#

guess it depends on how fast i get valorstones this week and if i cap again if i use it

shadow ibex
#

if you farm keys next week im sure they will be lots

#

and i think they said the raid will award a lot more so normal clear is pretty lowstake source

severe crag
quaint otter
#

Yes

candid pecan
#

yes, +6 keys have only 1 affix (no fort/tyran) and give end of dungeon hc track ilvl gear

#

pretty neat

quaint otter
#

Amy way ull be able to do a hm level key with ur current gear easily

fair siren
#

or you can have the wep on launch and capped valorstones

candid pecan
#

true ratge

timid stump
#

Stats still are crit - haste ?

spark mango
#

guys when playing arms full St with Exhilirating blows, if i get a reset on mortal strike and reset on overpower, do i consume opportunist then use my second mortal strike, or mortal strike >> everything

dim basalt
#

It has a higher prio than MS

spark mango
#

thanks for the info, h ow about execute phsae, still high prio on opp?

#

if i execute and my Ms is ready, do i overpower then ms?

dim basalt
#

Only when youre sub 85 rage and have less than 2 stacks of MP

#

Else you just send MS if you have 2 stacks of EP

spark mango
#

ah ok thanks fam

trail orbit
#

Gotta remember in execute MS is also refreshing your rend.

spark mango
#

yeah i know just asking for changes in rotation for this season

#

last season we just spammed execute pretty much

fringe moon
#

it's a real shame they kept deft experience a 2 pt node....would've been nice to be able to pick up battlelord

dim basalt
#

BL isnt even far away in terms of damage right now

#

its sad

fringe moon
dim basalt
#

mhm

spark mango
#

just happy i'm not pressing Sks and refreshing rend in lust window

latent moss
#

0 value

#

in exe

#

sucks

last inlet
#

was spell reflection always consumed when 1 spell hit us?

dim basalt
#

ye

last inlet
#

bruh how haven't i noticed this

dim basalt
#

Im still waiting for a small change that somehow makes colossus better in ST

#

Or at least even

quaint otter
grave osprey
#

Hey! Good spec for cleave and for ST for raid arms? pls? ๐Ÿ˜„

quaint otter
#

Ench shaman

#

Frost dk

dim basalt
shadow ibex
#

i suck at driving

silk spade
#

spacebar gaming

eager sigil
#

i didnt know space did that until iwas done with the zone

#

shouldve done the toturial

spring vale
dim basalt
#

Its not accurate but feels accurate yep

quaint otter
# dim basalt 140k = 0

I guess most even feel difference outside of personal preferences during actual gameplay

#

wont*

#

Slayer can highroll the jugg stacks more likely tho

dim basalt
#

btw did anything happen with our animations or something

#

Other than cs / wb

spring vale
#

i noticed i get stuck after demolish now but that may just be the zone lag in Undermine

dim basalt
#

I feel like my character does different animations with Execute now

reef slate
#

Animation changes with massacre talented and or sweep active

dim basalt
#

Oh could be because of sweep

#

Not sure how I never noticed

gaunt owl
#

more proof that animation are overrated

finite wasp
#

theres a new sound for warbreaker now when 11.1 released it feels chonky i liek it

reef slate
#

Audio is the real tech

spring vale
#

Take me back to the venthyr condemn animation + sound

shadow ibex
#

Wb animation still bad

finite wasp
#

yes the animation for wb is anime cringe

fallen oar
#

For how much can MS crit now? I know its gear dependant but

finite wasp
#

some cases i saw nearly 10 mil for ms on slayer

#

but thats when buffs align perfectly and crits

fallen oar
#

Is slayer best now?

dim basalt
#

has always been for ST

finite wasp
#

on sims for st slayer should be highest

fallen oar
#

Ok and for m+ ??

finite wasp
#

r u talking about slayer bc it kinda sucks in m+

reef glade
#

1 phased 13 ingra lol

fallen oar
#

Always thought colossus was good for st cuz of hard-hitting demolish

finite wasp
#

not rlly

reef glade
#

shines way more in 2+ targets

finite wasp
#

but its solid at least if u spec into right talents

olive nest
fallen oar
#

Thanks for reply all. Really wanna try out but I am on vacation. Good timing keks

pseudo crow
#

Pls god not a nerf ๐Ÿ˜ข

quaint otter
last inlet
#

IV tier lists are the worst.

fallen oar
last inlet
#

raids not even out yet

sage badge
#

Arms owns
No matter where they are on a tier list

gaunt owl
#

one day Petko will stop with the tier list

#

only one way to save everybody

#

just sandbag hard first week for real

quaint otter
heavy wren
gaunt owl
#

dont push MS ?

fair siren
#

thinking sandbagging does anything ๐Ÿ˜‚

gaunt owl
#

its the other player fault they dont push buttons good enough

reef glade
#

i did get like 4 EB ms resets on that boss too

#

in a row

#

that felt sick

#

16m > 10m back to back

quaint otter
reef glade
#

his dam rn

quaint otter
#

I did more chatting

reef glade
#

tank didnt pull the double pack of bugs...

quaint otter
#

In 12 mists

reef glade
#

going 1 at a time...

#

that was 1 pack

quaint otter
#

Ww is giga capped like fury

fallen oar
quaint otter
#

Loboz spear + roar legendary build joke

shadow ibex
#

Run colossus w spear instead of roar

quaint otter
#

Would crush the ingra even more

reef glade
#

largo

#

had 1 wipe

#

cuz people silly

#

roar does seem kinda ass now

#

with just how big other stuff is

#

idk

#

was 6% of my dam

#

spear may be the play idk

shadow ibex
#

I want warlord and blademaster sadge

quaint otter
severe haven
# reef glade

You should show damage breakdown these don't say much

shadow ibex
#

Spear probably less overall but more fun gamba for crit

quaint otter
#

Ms grew a lot tho

reef glade
#

what breakdown

#

shows the top like 8 abilities

#

almost nothing else below it that matters

severe haven
#

No like MS's

shadow ibex
#

Rend doing 3%

reef glade
#

o of each spell critcake

quaint otter
# reef glade

How could u ignore the 20kk dot damage from enchant

reef glade
#

rend large

glacial pumice
#

am i upgrading this

severe haven
shadow ibex
#

You know if we had other mid tier talents maybe we could lose rend

reef glade
#

no impressive cleaves

#

just 7mil max crit

severe haven
#

Ye see

#

24M Demo

#

That's what I like

quaint otter
#

Did u setup collateral for ingra?

reef glade
#

not rly

quaint otter
reef glade
#

tree died kinda fast

quaint otter
#

Unlucky

severe haven
#

16M hit MS

reef glade
#

ingra lasted 1:07 lol

shadow ibex
#

Slam colossus st next tier

quaint otter
reef glade
#

wikid

quaint otter
#

7 spheres

reef glade
#

yea that ww was pretty good methinks

quaint otter
#

Arms should do it in 1 sec xan

reef glade
#

the only thing i dont like is not sure when to do all the setup of shit

#

like if warbreaker worth holding to send the collat cleave in

#

or just rip everything and w/e

#

but need to hit like 4 buttons before sweeping to actually use the most of it

quaint otter
#

Just wb demo

reef glade
#

clap/roar/ravager/wb

quaint otter
#

Cant decide whether play arms or ww sadge sadge sadge

shadow ibex
#

I don't think need to hold sweeping gonna feel bad either way

reef glade
shadow ibex
#

Gonna sweeping before wb and lose value or sweep inside wb and lose value

spring vale
#

clearly they need to add a talent that wb activates sweeping strikes for its duration

shadow ibex
#

Let us have both torments

quaint otter
#

Make sweeping insta cat or passive ffs...

spring vale
#

insta ๐Ÿฑ

reef glade
#

or off gcd...

feral umbra
#

Crit mentioned Voidelfs for "best" Race in terms of Arms dps, Wowhead says .. kultiran(?! xD ) I am tired of my B11 and want to switch haha

spring vale
#

best race is orc/male nelf because they look cool asf with plate armor

shadow ibex
#

blademaster puts it on avatar and avatar is off gcd

#

so we kinda got off gcd sweeping

#

but cant have it and reck sadge

stark bay
#

does that SS get the uhhh other talent. for the 25% stacking cleave post SS?

#

my brain doesn't work and i don't have the sheet in front of me

shadow ibex
#

yes

stark bay
#

sick

quaint otter
toxic socket
#

im trying to see in my talents etc, but why do we use TR before popping avatar in our opener?

#

and before using warbreaker

quaint otter
#

Yes

rich ridge
#

Iโ€™ve decided to play arms

quaint otter
#

The initial hit isnt that big sonot worth buffing it

quaint otter
shadow ibex
#

this WB animation

#

why is it delayed

remote talon
#

why is it just awful

hard cedar
quaint otter
#

based

#

why fire enchant tho

hard cedar
#

FOR THE BURNING BLADE

#

of course

quaint otter
charred brook
#

Man after playing new slayer arms last night it was so much more fun than last tier

#

Not playing skullsplitter and playing around opportunist was pretty good

quaint otter
#

whats new for arms slayer?

charred brook
#

New playstyle

shadow ibex
#

wheres that hat from

spring vale
#

i think remix

shadow ibex
#

rip

spring vale
#

it might return in one way or another, even if legion is the next remix

versed quarry
#

guys for opend world wich talents use?

magic canopy
#

i miss remix

#

was actually a lot of fun

spring vale
#

it was so sick for leveling too

sick tusk
#

Is arms currently keeping up with Fury for raid? I haven't kept up with the findings of PTR

unkempt fern
#

arms wins over fury in every scenario

#

til now at least

sick tusk
#

Oh wow, fuck yes

quaint otter
#

@reef glade not so impressive in my run sadge

unkempt fern
#

are they not gonna nerf the ring when season starts?

spring vale
#

ring is already nerfed by virtue of capping out at 658

unkempt fern
#

Ive stopped playing before 11.07, should i go get the ring then?

magic canopy
#

currently BiS even at max gear

#

prob worth the time

spring vale
#

it doesnt take super long to get either

#

all the timegates has passed and you can do all of the quests to upgrade it in one sitting

shadow ibex
#

based patch

sick tusk
#

I thought they took the ring away with the drop of the new patch, I rushed to get it thinking they'd take the island away

olive nest
steep osprey
#

Baseg

shadow ibex
#

did the night elf npc players do stuff like that to horde in that stupid city

#

ider the name

steep osprey
#

They had them in their watchful eyes

#

debuff

sharp wyvern
#

when do we press MS during execute as slayer ?
with all stacks of EP and OP ?

olive nest
#

๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

steep osprey
#

L bozo

olive nest
#

What kind of safe place is this

gaunt owl
#

i need my toxicity lvl rising

olive nest
#

Same

#

Getting dry

gaunt owl
#

i cant be satsifying flipping people off while driving

#

its not enough

olive nest
devout pewter
#

did they change warbreaker another time after the initial change?

steep osprey
#

can you flip people off while driving rn

#

in the new car

#

just honk i guess

devout pewter
#

the animation I mean ๐Ÿ˜„ I can't remember the nice glow and move from your character

gaunt owl
#

its spicier

#

gonna have to cure my boredom somehow

trim niche
#

Why are we taking juggernaut this season compared to last?

steep osprey
#

Pretty sure we took it last

gaunt owl
#

we played juggy ya

trim niche
#

Sorry, for Slayer M+*

devout pewter
#

pretty sure slayer always grabbed jugg

#

it was just colossus that didn't take it

#

and since colossus is the better choice anyways ๐Ÿ˜›

devout pewter
# steep osprey I think so

I'm actually glad they did. The initial animation was just shit, the fix was okay, but I'm somewhat fine with that

trim niche
#

My previously Slayer M+ Build didn't seem to have it. Must of been a mistake then

devout pewter
#

might have, yeah

#

Might also remember something wrong, did take a bit of a break for some time. But I don't remember slayer not picking juggy

steep osprey
#

so this one won't be like this

lucid apex
#

Silly question, what target count would it be ok to sweeping strike+ execute spam vs. pressing cleave?

Or do we just send cleave and then just execute spam until it comes up?

devout pewter
#

oh? nice

steep osprey
#

maybe in next patch or something

#

yeah, people did not like it

#

so many feedback was just shitting on it

#

and they made a post saying they're gonna redo it lol

devout pewter
#

I mean, in my opinion, it's "fine" now but we'll see.. could definitly be better. The ff15 weapon thing is... meh

devout pewter
untold pewter
#

Animation is fucking horrid and the delay is just salt to the wound

devout pewter
#

yeah, that's the worst part about it

steep osprey
#

Is EU still lagging

devout pewter
#

I gotta use it a bit more to really notice it, just saw the flashy move your character does while questing and got bedazzled

#

but yeah the animation is nice, but it's like a full gcd of delay I think right?

#

before the actual hit

shadow ibex
#

so many treasures dont seem to actually work

vestal raptor
#

Hey gamers, rerolling to arms for this tier from fury, is it normal to overcap rage on arms as well? feels like for me to use overpower before slam I am overcapping

shadow ibex
#

it will happen yea

#

execute helps

quaint otter
vestal raptor
#

aight was just double checking, ty for the help fellas

severe haven
plucky flicker
#

Is Jugg Slayer playable without S2 tier set ?

#

Asking because it doesn't have deft

fresh spire
#

what about fatality...

#

i tried it, wiped .2% and it did good damage, tried it on kill pull and it was fucking bad

#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

nova marsh
fresh spire
shadow ibex
#

make it auto pop

#

and m+ here we go

quaint otter
#

like wb ava etc

devout pewter
#

Fatality really sucks, especially as a cap stone talent so far down lmao

fresh spire
#

nah didnt really watch buff

devout pewter
#

a talent that builds up for a single hit during a 10+ minute fight... what fun

fresh spire
#

hit 28m one pull 8m other

shadow ibex
tacit crystal
#

just proccing more

dim basalt
shadow ibex
#

patch has the best buffs

steep osprey
torpid jackal
#

i have never seen that emote before if I click on it and it isn't called ratge i'm gonna be disappointed

#

LETS GOOOOOO

sacred zodiac
minor gust
#

I shoulda ran spear tho

fresh spire
#

same

#

i got pi to pi abuse ๐Ÿ˜„

#

first time this expansion holy

minor gust
#

You really felt the loss of exe not giving CM stacks on court

#

It was pretty hard getting demolish up for the amp phases

narrow dawn
#

which one will be better colosus or slayer for keys ?

minor gust
#

Colossus

lean geode
#

Cleave fuk gud