disc is messy sometimes
#arms
tacit crystal
yeah i did something
dire hinge
windows update?
severe haven
watching the espresso song gameplay drinking 3rd coffee of the day
dire hinge
multitrillion dollar company, can't keep sound configs between updates 
tacit crystal
multitrillion dollar company, can't keep sound configs between updates <:sad_cat...
nah i changed audio settings
and forgot i did so
minor gust
Skill issue
quaint otter
Of certain scale
coral crescent
tacit crystal
best revvez
floral ledge
best on performance
fresh spire
revvez is the goat
floral ledge
on raiding
tacit crystal
revvez
fresh spire
i cant be a goat im a fish
tacit crystal
the goat is gajeel
naive breach
krisp the fishi in my heart
slow saddle
Goaf
icy mulch
Last song I am dying of sweating here
signal oriole
3 more hours man I hope they don't extend the maintenance.
void bay
how long ago should it have been out? Not sure how long extension was
minor gust
hasnt been an extention yet
junior lava
olive nest
Don’t forget instances will be bricked for another 3-4hrs once we can log in
void bay
hasnt been an extention yet
oh then my bad
wanton sierra
3 more hours man I hope they don't extend the maintenance.
ohhh they shall, knowing blizzard xD
icy mulch
I just did 40 mins of Beat Saber to entertain during the down time. lol
tacit crystal
I just did 40 mins of Beat Saber to entertain during the down time. lol
we gotta play bg3 this week
fading aspen
i mean its like 2-4 more hours at least right
tacit crystal
https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-steve-austin-gif-27207643
the only thing i want to do is get the big sword at the start
wanton sierra
ive been playin some "slay the spire" ascendence mode
icy mulch
And unlock Minthara. uh huh uh huh.
tacit crystal
nooo
shadow ibex
i mean its like 2-4 more hours at least right
It's supposed to be 3pst
I would say 5/6 pst at best
Getting off an hour early on patch day 
4 hour gym day inc
severe haven
And unlock Minthara. uh huh uh huh.
Evil goblin mode
wanton sierra
4 hour gym day inc
the guy is jacked!
olive nest
Got me beat I usually try to get in and out asap
icy mulch
Evil goblin mode
Nah, redemption arc in Act 2.
dire hinge
if they extend maintenance i might even... touch grass
icy mulch
if they extend maintenance i might even... touch grass
Too much snow here for that.
dire hinge
<:keks:936231610850897992> Too much snow here for that.
you might get an extra hour to dig and find some 
lean geode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62FixowbjE0
Critcake, madox, jeventes (although not sure if he's playing warrior rn) all have good yt content
icy mulch
lol
lean geode
Some very good streamers as well with good info out there
dire hinge
become the change you want to see in the world
minor gust
Madox for green
olive nest
Can we normalize 4 day work weeks
lean geode
I will say, zorthas's vids are very concise which can be really nice
That's a stylistic choice tho
shadow ibex
Got me beat I usually try to get in and out asap
I do a lot of tempo sets so it takes me 8 years to do anything
shadow ibex
Lots of 1 2 3 in the set then a pause at the bottom
lean geode
I do a lot of tempo sets so it takes me 8 years to do anything
Do you hate yourself?
thick kelp
I think Lakri is critizing the way the information is displayed
shadow ibex
Do you hate yourself?
Yes but I love being an absolute unit more
olive nest
I feel like sweeping sooner feels better but aye if that’s what sims says then that’s what we do
floral ledge
I think Lakri is critizing the way the information is displayed
no im just not sure about the opener
nothing special ladies
tacit crystal
???
dire hinge
ah, yeah that's the opener welcome to arms
shadow ibex
I feel like sweeping sooner feels better but aye if that’s what sims says then t...
Sim doesn't do that
At least not last I checked
edgy solstice
aoe sims xd
icy mulch
the guy is jacked!
I did a circuit from 1300-1400, Volleyball from 1400-1500, Beat Saber from 1500 to 1545. I know the feeling of sweating to death. lol
tacit crystal
aoe sims xd
where is the execute
olive nest
I like to sweep mid charge but that wastes CD stacks I guess
olive nest
Agree
lean geode
Yes but I love being an absolute unit more
Catch me out here doing more reps instead of making fewer reps taking longer tbh, that's diabolical
errant otter
edgy solstice
you sweep charge anyway if pack is worth double rends
lean geode
Cleave before clap and gives more DW 🙂
shadow ibex
Catch me out here doing more reps instead of making fewer reps taking longer tbh...
A lower weight with disciplined form and tempo will go a lot further
Not as flashy tho
lean geode
A lower weight with disciplined form and tempo will go a lot further
I don't think there's any research directly comparing tempo when matching per-set RPE and total set volume
shadow ibex
The moment they fix ravager sweeping I guess I'll stop sweeping first
But even when they do that muscle memory is gonna be set
molten horizon
when i see this
where is cleave before burst for debuff?
floral ledge
that's what im seeing
but people is not agree
is not mine opener btw
is madox's one
minor gust
Everyone sweeps and ravagers before WB and def dont insta send demolish without any stacks on aoe
steep osprey
How did Enha randomly go from 2.9M sims to 2.7M ? lol
soft ridge
tacit crystal
How did Enha randomly go from 2.9M sims to 2.7M ? lol
deserved
shadow ibex
I don't think there's any research directly comparing tempo when matching per-se...
Getting maximum stretch of the muscle is what gets growth and a tempo helps with that imo. Pausing at the bottom of the rep also sees a big stretch
dim basalt
How did Enha randomly go from 2.9M sims to 2.7M ? lol
Heard something about Kezan but also cyrces ring oversimming
shadow ibex
Ring was over sim yes
dim basalt
But honestly, fuck Enh
steep osprey
Wouldn't it be oversimming for us too?
dim basalt
I wouldnt mind if they drop to 2.3M
shadow ibex
Yes but not as much for us it seemed
steep osprey
what about the trinket
shadow ibex
Depends on how much of a % it was making if your damage
Trinket was changed ppl said but sim is the same
I saw weirdness in sim with it getting damage from the trinket even tho going by number of applications it never reached max stacks to then deal dmg
shadow ibex
The dmg is like .00001% of the value tho
Not at all relevant.
I think stormbolt does more
steep osprey
Ok
shadow ibex
It's not gonna deal same % of dmg across the board for all classes
thick kelp
could be that they changes the ring out completely yk
arms sims less than 2.9m without the ring
steep osprey
I don't see us surviving this if we're this ahead of even the specs in the middle
shadow ibex
Ring nerf
dim basalt
Thats them doing too little damage instead of us doing too much tho
steep osprey
Thats them doing too little damage instead of us doing too much tho
Perhaps
thick kelp
other specs are sandbagging
dim basalt
wl 100% sandbagging
shadow ibex
Other specs bring stuff to raid
dim basalt
No way all specs sim 2.3M only
thick kelp
destro was simming 2.8million and its tierset only got fully implemented 16hours ago
dim basalt
Last I heard was destro simming 2.4M or so
dim basalt
Nah
thick kelp
sandbagging sims till the last second
shadow ibex
Warlock players are full of shit
dim basalt
Theyre still shit
thick kelp
is a classic rogue + warlock move
lean geode
Is fuu the one who does new patch sims for rogue?
dim basalt
Its kind of fascinating that their dev communicates with them a lot and yet theyre full of issues
lean geode
Bc their sims are all on a public sheet right
thick kelp
rogue sims are always available to the public
being public wouldnt stop them from sandbagging
steep osprey
https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4tDQmSsKQcU3Bx4yiTGMY9 this is sub rogue
dim basalt
Seems alright
shadow ibex
Its kind of fascinating that their dev communicates with them a lot and yet they...
i wish all classes had someone like that
and its not even a position you can advertise for
someone on the team hasto just play your class and really enjoy it
dim basalt
We dont know if we have someone in here reading the chat
They have good reasons to stay undercover if so
shadow ibex
if they did idk how dance of death is still around
it lasted 2 expansions
same with spiteful
dim basalt
Hunters used to have a communicating dev until they got shit thrown at them
steep osprey
dim basalt
And knowing warrior players that would just end up really bad
shadow ibex
if there is a war dev they would deserve it
same people calling warbreaker warbringer
lean geode
<:keks:936231610850897992>
Idk how this even makes sense
dim basalt
Eh, I dont like attacking people on a personal level
lean geode
Does dam > defensive utility?
steep osprey
It's a joke
shadow ibex
Eh, I dont like attacking people on a personal level
nothing personal about it
just doubting ability
lean geode
And knowing warrior players that would just end up really bad
Every time I think I have a class design cook, Archi tells me 18 reasons why it's actually shit
I feel like most class devs feel that way about the community
dim basalt
Maybe Archi is the dev
lean geode
Goat
shadow ibex
if someone had a hand in warrior and decided to retool dance of death
nah that person deserves to have judgement questioned 1000%
steep osprey
lmfao
shadow ibex
the fact spiteful serenity and AM just do the same thing is emberassing
spiteful is worse
because it just repeats what AM does but worse
proper iron
will crests etc be removed tomorrow?
shadow ibex
dance of deaths placement is probably the most offensive thing about it. spiteful straight up just baffles the mind
steep osprey
I dont think theres a single talent in the game as bad as dance of death
Storm of Swords (fury)
charred brook
What’s tomorrow
steep osprey
literal downgrade
shadow ibex
ok storm of swords
dim basalt
Storm of Swords (fury)
No idea what it does
dim basalt
I have never touched fury
charred brook
What the hell is storm of swords
shadow ibex
x2 charges on ravager but it does 0 dmg and gens more rage
dim basalt
Oh that thing
charred brook
Ew
dim basalt
Pwar has it as well
shadow ibex
yea
dim basalt
It does make more sense for pwar but meh
charred brook
Oh yeah I think I actually ran it on pwar early on
shadow ibex
i think spiteful > dance of death in stupidity tho
if dance of death was where bloodsurge is
i wouldnt hate it
charred brook
You guys think we will get tuned off heroic raid performances tonight
shadow ibex
cuz then w/e i can take it in some aoe builds and maybe hit hard
heroic raid isnt open
charred brook
Current raid
dim basalt
You still wouldnt pick it ever
shadow ibex
i highly doubt they will pay any mind to current raid
shadow ibex
You still wouldnt pick it ever
you can afford bloodsurge in some colossus builds
so in theory if BS didnt exist and dance was there you could
dim basalt
Would feel like a wasted point because of how bad that talent is still
Just very niche
shadow ibex
i'd use it over SKS
it has no place being a capstone
spiteful however just idk. AM already does what it does to CS
shadow ibex
they just shouldnt be choice nodes
that and iftk
there is no choice. tom is under tuned to hell and spiteful just bad
dim basalt
If we were able to use iftk and tom at the same time execute phase would go hard
And actually make us a good execute spec lol
lean geode
BTW arms enjoyers, wowanalyzer updates for 11.1 have been merged 
I think something is fucky with the MS tracking, but the rotational APL checker should be working mostly correctly on patchwerk fights (for both slarms and col)
dire hinge
You're a hero, @lean geode thanks for the all the hard work recently over there
swift crown
@daring flicker bolas
magic canopy
hmmge?
daring flicker
<@167252773912444928> bolas
show me bolas
lean geode
You're a hero, <@138757776707944448> thanks for the all the hard work recently o...
🫡 surely I'll get around to updating fury before next Tuesday right
zenith warren
Is autohotkey still a thing btw?
dire hinge
i haven't heard that name in years tbh
there's so many other rebind options out there, including native WoW UI options, Clique, etc
there was some risk a while back where people were getting banned for it (or at least claiming they were), I wouldn't recommend it, personally
icy mulch
hmmge?
You missed it. I did like 45 mins of Beat Saber. Played a bunch of the songs we were linking this morning.
magic canopy
dire hinge
https://tenor.com/view/anime-beatsaber-gameplay-dance-vr-gif-1717996353699037236...
which fury build is this
magic canopy
smf
icy mulch
K/D/A build, I make the drum go dum!
dire hinge
that checks out
hybrid sinew
i used to use autohotkey when I was multboxing on a private server, it was super useful then, but i can't imagine using it in retail unless you had nefarious ends
void bay
i used to use autohotkey when I was multboxing on a private server, it was super...
its a super useful tool outside of wow....not sure how its useful in wow except for weird macro stuff or anti afk
dire hinge
yeah and the "Weird macro stuff" starts to get close to bannable actions from the WoW Warden
hybrid sinew
yeah i can def see situations it would be useful outside of wow, and even in wow, i think iwas playing a healer + 3 dps and it was invaluable there, but that was just certainly just a niche thing
void bay
yeah ive never used it in wow, but back when I was a coder it was super useful
olive nest
Even mouse software can get you banned in this game lmao
void bay
yeah i can def see situations it would be useful outside of wow, and even in wow...
you had a kvm switch too or something? Or a software kvm?
hybrid sinew
oh wow, now that takes me back, yeah i think i did with the Mangos server running on one computer
and i'd use the switch to easily switch back and forth
void bay
right ok, that makes more sense
hybrid sinew
we didn't have internet at our house at the time, so i set up our own server so my wife and i could play togehter
normal mason
Is archi aware on wowhead arms guide when you select the gear option it loads fury’s bis gear?
void bay
yeah i dont see the point in risking your wow account unless you are one of these people just making money from it in a low income country and dont care about just buying a new one
hybrid sinew
oh yeah i'd never use it on live
i'm pretty sure thats probablly oen of the things they specifically look for
astral stream
is there any guide/raiders guide on what to do with the coming patch?
void bay
yeah probs...ive done a bit of poking at warden, and it checks obvious dlls and exes, and resident memory
olive nest
Is archi aware on wowhead arms guide when you select the gear option it loads fu...
People have been mentioning wowhead issues all day, no need to worry I’m sure he’s working on it and I’d guess tomorrow everything will be normal
normal mason
Thought as much. I assume arms is go to this season for raid?
magic canopy
yuh
normal mason
Nice change then. Enjoyed arms in df but played fury all of s1 for war within
magic canopy
@tacit crystal https://www.reddit.com/r/Catswhoyell/comments/1hxn2tq/my_deaf_cat_who_has_never_seen_the_snow_before/
click the link this is one of my favorite subreddits
void bay
is there any guide/raiders guide on what to do with the coming patch?
wowhead has quite a few guides there, scroll through that
boreal quartz
🫡 surely I'll get around to updating fury before next Tuesday right
way to go to reduce effort in #449510248579858432 
good shit bro
normal mason
Is arms similar to df playstyle wise or have they smoothed out some of the issues?
icy mulch
https://tenor.com/view/kda-gif-26312496
smoky kayak
BTW arms enjoyers, wowanalyzer updates for 11.1 have been merged <:peepoBlush:81...
FYI there may have been some more last minute changes, so check back once raidbots is online
gleaming gate
smoky kayak
sim changes, not tuning
icy mulch
sim changes, not tuning
white hedge
a stupid question
Colossal Might is no longer applied by Execute.
how much does this affect the class
candid pecan
it sucks but.... its not that bad, all the other abilities got buffed by so much, we'll let this one slide
white hedge
cause i dont really understand this
but not being able to get might from execute feels like a huge nerf
ah oke
thanks
wicked aurora
So with current tier set does it still have impact in our rotation at all with all the changes to core ability damage?
candid kindle
the tierset seems pretty straightforward, skill buffs skill, and said skill has a chance to reset statcks of buffed skill
dim basalt
Its mostly noticable during execute phase in raid
candid kindle
so it doesnt change anything just boost dmg
candid kindle
is there room for minmaxing? sure
like idk inc huge pack on m+ and ur op is stacked, but the add u killing is dying, maybe u dont use op so u save it for next pack
but i dont see tyhe practical applying of that tbh
since its 15% chance to reset the stacks, its a gambling tierset lmao
fits the goblin focused raid stuff really well imo
wicked aurora
I wasn't referring to the new tier set
split cairn
Hey guys, I'm making a totally fresh main for season 2, warrior a good bet?
wicked aurora
I was referring to the current 11.0 tier set that we have
but looks like it remains the same, send OP if it procs before MS comes off CD
candid kindle
Hey guys, I'm making a totally fresh main for season 2, warrior a good bet?
not enough data to tell, and since warrior is a hit or miss (more a miss than a hit) since like shadowlands in terms of big dps... biy tou will have fun i can tell u that
ptr info seems to say that it will be kinda good
wicked aurora
Warrior is always a good prog dps
like almost always
whether or not it stays a good choice in farm/keys is a different story
candid kindle
yeah but its not like its strong. most guilds take em bc its a buff and RC so u gotta have at least 1
its hella fun to play tho
smoky kayak
tbh I feel like Warrior is always "good" - it may not be best or meta, but it's pretty much always at least middle of the pack if not better for the average player
wicked aurora
yeah but its not like its strong. most guilds take em bc its a buff and RC so u ...
People said that about warrior in S1 of SL and look at what Revvez was doing with it in prog
dude was slapping tf out of people
smoky kayak
particularly when it comes to someone coming back to the game or playing more casually, they're probably not jumping into the high end of content anyway, so they can do just about anything
wanton sierra
hey since thunder roar is gettin drastic nerf, is this spear season? xD
smoky kayak
but even though its not meta, Warrior has remained one of the better classes for mid-range keys and had a strong showing in H & M raids
wicked aurora
it's a durable class and almost always is one of the best execute specs in the game, that's very valuable in prog even if it's not one of the top performers
smoky kayak
hey since thunder roar is gettin drastic nerf, is this spear season? xD
roar didn't get a nerf, just Words, though bleeds as a whole are going down anyway
candid kindle
dude was slapping tf out of people
yeah but ure comparing a world class .1% player to the rest of the community, and the class gets nerfed because of 1 guy, its kinda dog
smoky kayak
and no, Spear just doesn't really work very well with Arms' cooldowns
wicked aurora
yeah but ure comparing a world class .1% player to the rest of the community, an...
it doesn't get nerfed because of one guy though?
candid kindle
it doesn't get nerfed because of one guy though?
it did
smoky kayak
lol no it doesn't
wicked aurora
no it didn't
candid kindle
it got nerfed like the day after rwf lol
smoky kayak
that's because they don't want to interfere with the RWF, not because of the RWF
wanton sierra
roar didn't get a nerf, just Words, though bleeds as a whole are going down anyw...
yes but i mean, since all bleeds are going down, now we can try new builds? maybe spear colossus? or even deep exe build
smoky kayak
(also they nerfed before the RWF even started)
wanton sierra
arms s1 shadowlands was all about condemn them down
shadow ibex
it came out of beta ready to suck
smoky kayak
yes but i mean, since all bleeds are going down, now we can try new builds? mayb...
you can try, but Spear in general doesn't work that well with Arms - it's damage just isn't concentrated enough to benefit from the short damage window
candid kindle
from the beginning
tbf all warrior specs where bad in s1 sl
brittle fiber
i wish they left spear in shadowlands
"here's an awful verison of grasp and chains"
wanton sierra
the bad part its the delay, it should be instant... but them pvpers shall be mad
lookin them numbers its quite close
an second node for champion spear should be cdr of its own
candid kindle
250%ap i tap dmg output + 10s of 250% ap bleed dmg vs 240% 1 tap dmg output + 4s of 218ap dmg
roar seems stronger
wanton sierra
how about like this xD
thick kelp
Loboz build
quaint otter
LoBALLS
quaint otter
how about like this xD
I take that
wanton sierra
nice, seems fun ill try it out... just talented it on calculator hehe
crimson cairn
Why would anyone willingly play spear if not needed kek
twin hazel
Does Slayer suck this patch?
rare kite
Does Slayer suck this patch?
no, it's the play in raid
wanton sierra
i just like colossus more
wanton sierra
season 1 i raided a few and i played slayer, fun too
steep osprey
why are you pink
he's streaming
twin hazel
Who has a good slayer build?
magic canopy
Who has a good slayer build?
Arms Warrior
Slayer Singletarget Raid Build: CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwMmZGzYegZbWWWmZAAAAwgphZGzMDzAmxmZmhZYGGAAAAAAAegxsMzMDgMGLbDsAGwMMhMD2A
AoE Collosus Build: CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGmZGzYGzDMbzyyyYGAAAAGMNMzYmZYGMzMYmZYGeghBAAAAAAgZMbDGgtMDYzMGWgBmRb0YwC
severe haven
hfhf
twin hazel
Thanks!
cosmic fossil
severe haven
you can try, but Spear in general doesn't work that well with Arms - it's damage...
archi, well done with the new guide
candid kindle
yuh game is SUPPOSED TO BE UP at 6 so im just chillin
at 6
ornate narwhal
hi , got one question about thunderous roar on the rotation , do u use it at cd or u wait for the warbreaker to use it ? i mean after the first time that u use all your coldowns
brittle fiber
the bad part its the delay, it should be instant... but them pvpers shall be mad
a lot of warrior issues could be fixed by simply "making it instant"
magic canopy
hi , got one question about thunderous roar on the rotation , do u use it at cd ...
use it on CD it is very weak now so we just send it. and try to use it on as many adds as possible
quaint otter
hi , got one question about thunderous roar on the rotation , do u use it at cd ...
use on cd
it will still benefit from wb if u apply after
ornate narwhal
ok thank you ^^
wanton sierra
a lot of warrior issues could be fixed by simply "making it instant"
ye even in opener, ss animation feels cluncky
maiden moat
do the crest reset in na ?
magic canopy
supposidly you cannot farm crests this week
maiden moat
but the old crest still there in case i loot something from vault and can uograde it ?
minor gust
to be expected
magic canopy
but the old crest still there in case i loot something from vault and can uograd...
dont think so
unless you already had the crests maybe
lost granite
guys what the best race for war? orc?
magic canopy
someone in my guild says crests dont drop and you cant upgrade this week
lethal lodge
guys what the best race for war? orc?
Void Elf
by the sims i saw in Critcake's video
lost granite
whats the void elf racial bonus?
steep osprey
5% damage proc
lost granite
ooohh
brittle fiber
How much of a dps % increase is void elf compared to say human
fluid cape
pretty much nothing maybe like 0.04% or something
lethal lodge
So basically it's no point to race change if your not in a world 1st race
steep osprey
Exactly
dim basalt
So do female humans
tidal acorn
does pressing other abilities cancel Demolish early?
minor gust
servers up na boys
eager sigil
ofc
dim basalt
Too bad I gotta go to bed now 😦
minor gust
I did say NA in my statement so yeah
dim basalt
Cant wait to check how much my arms cranks tomorrow
minor gust
we raiding tonight so pumpin time
dim basalt
Send me the logs
glossy tusk
EU isnt until later right?
On blizzard it says EU maintenance is 03:00-11:00 but they will prob finish earlier
dim basalt
Surely we are not overtuned with current set 
lethal lodge
On blizzard it says EU maintenance is 03:00-11:00 but they will prob finish earl...
or later 😮
glossy tusk
or later 😮
nah NA usually takes that then we get earlier hehe
eager sigil
or later 😮
eu is usually up before 7 or 8
lethal lodge
+1 for EU to be 1 day behind
signal oriole
It's looking packed already. Long load times for realms.
lethal lodge
I think asia is on Thursdays if im not mistaken
void bay
EU always behind as they are too busy enjoying free stuff
glossy tusk
i kinda like it, i always check NA streams then i know what to do first day on EU
glossy tusk
tho this preseason dosent even have m0 so not much to do this week
lethal lodge
Just do some campaign quests and explore the new zone a bit + do some heroic dungeons (619) to gear up some alt character
minor gust
damn that opening cinematic was actually good
lethal lodge
sweet
I wonder how many re-rolled Goblins for this patch, probably more than normal haha 😂
glossy tusk
I went dwarf on alt, warrior forever staying nightelf
glossy tusk
tbf i have tauren and orc aswell 😄
glossy tusk
I cant go dwarf warrior sadly
signal oriole
That's nice having all that extra health wow.
glossy tusk
i need to be tall at least on warr
remote snow
are these sims correct @here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zwpBHd73lryeArEgiJmKEm3JUS9Og0FJnRzeA9N8ihI/htmlview#
steep osprey
I wonder how many re-rolled Goblins for this patch, probably more than normal ha...
A friend has all chars goblin
lethal lodge
wow haha
regal socket
void bay
A friend has all chars goblin
if he started in cataclysm, ask him for the next lottery numbers
heavy urchin
is there a new Larias' Gearing Guide docs or something?
wheat lagoon
is there a new Larias' Gearing Guide docs or something?
no
hes not doing any this tier
shadow ibex
lookin them numbers its quite close
in ST u cant afford to take capstone from either
in aoe i guess u can toss up spear/roar not gonna make or break any key for sure
lost granite
I wonder how many re-rolled Goblins for this patch, probably more than normal ha...
why goblin?
hexed saddle
cause the patch is goblin
tacit crystal
cause the patch is goblin
goblin gon
dusty dagger
Anyone confirm if OP's stack Martial Prowess didn't get nerfed or is it just a tooltip bug
Still getting 15% increased MS damage per stack
tacit crystal
yeah that was nerfed from 30%
dusty dagger
yeah that was nerfed from 30%
oooh, it was 30% per stack before, nvm
hollow juniper
Is there a new sheet for what to do for this week like larias one for first season ?
bold granite
theres dick all to do
void bay
do quests
true mason
is sks really gone, praise be
serene hollow
speaking of tooltip issue, what about this? wasn't this supposed to be 25%
shadow ibex
serene hollow
oh
icy mulch
No sir, still do not like this CS or Warbreaker animation.
smoky kayak
it is a little too anime for my tastes
icy mulch
The weapons should at least swing into the armor/target....
slender socket
is Arms the way to go now for season 2 for M+ and raid?
charred brook
i cant wait to do some questing!!!
hollow plover
is Arms the way to go now for season 2 for M+ and raid?
once you have the 4set it's probably just straight up stronger as it sims higher in just about all situations and it seems to be better in execute phases, which are really relevant in this upcoming tier
slender socket
once you have the 4set it's probably just straight up stronger as it sims higher...
thank you
cobalt sinew
whats the verdict
shadow ibex
that warbreaker is awful
dire copper
hey, from the sims spreadsheet, ya'll know what BB/BS refers to? Only thing in abbreviations is bloodbath which obv isn't arms, and I don't think bladestorm makes sense in context for rage gen?
waxen hawk
anyone got a good mythic+ arms build i can use? trying it out for the first time from fury today
I can't seem to find any under the build section
shadow ibex
bloodsurge
dire hinge
hey, from the sims spreadsheet, ya'll know what BB/BS refers to? Only thing in a...
BB stands for "bloodborne" on Arms
BS = Bloodsurge
if you scroll down to the bottom of that sheet there's an "Abbreviations" section for you 👍
dire copper
ty ty
shadow ibex
bloodsurge rules
dire hinge
acronym fixed up, thanks @dire copper 👍
vast surge
they added a truncated version of the animation for warbreaker with the same sound effects
from the preview
hollow plover
bloodsurge rules
yea but i feel that if u waste tooo much rage its kinda doodoo
vast surge
I want old warbreaker back
rare kite
BB stands for "bloodborne" on Arms
BS = Bloodsurge
if you scroll down to the bo...
bs equaling bloodsurge is crazy to me. whenever i read bs it's bladestorm
dire copper
np, always happy to be the hurrdurr who can't parse through context clues lmao
rare kite
i just type bloodsurge when i mean bloodsurge
hollow plover
np, always happy to be the hurrdurr who can't parse through context clues lmao
we ar e warrior
we big brain
hurrdurr
sterile geyser
Am I throwing if I run Colossus instead of slayer for St?
hollow plover
Am I throwing if I run Colossus instead of slayer for St?
the example sims given for BIS gear are 2.961m (slayer) and 2.824m (colossus)
kinda significant yea
shadow ibex
yea but i feel that if u waste tooo much rage its kinda doodoo
when no wft it helps
quaint otter
kinda significant yea
not even 3% lol
hollow plover
wft?
shadow ibex
colossus eats through rage when it exe
hollow plover
not even 3% lol
thats a lot
quaint otter
hollow plover
bro people go crazy for a 0.8% dps increase from a gear drop
quaint otter
1% diff in sim that might have oversim
hollow plover
but then you say its "not even 3%"
quaint otter
Based
hollow plover
bruh
quaint otter
gear drop is something else tho
hollow plover
you go crazy for a gear drop but you dont go crazy for a gigantic increase just from taking diff talents?
😭
shadow ibex
you arent throwing for playing colossus for ST
there's nothing to throw the tier is over
dire copper
The tier is about to begin lmao
quaint otter
you go crazy for a gear drop but you dont go crazy for a gigantic increase just ...
Talents i can always swap items not
hollow plover
The tier is about to begin lmao
in a week
quaint otter
The tier is about to begin lmao
no pls
trail orbit
anyone have a halfway decent warrior weak aura pack?
dire hinge
there's plenty on Wago.io you can select from 🙂
sorting by number of installs get you the most popular ones, but there's a few (personal preference)
rare kite
anyone have a halfway decent warrior weak aura pack?
luxthos is decent, i just made it smaller and that's it
balmy kindle
you arent throwing for playing colossus for ST
nice no more slayer it is
hollow plover
madox for yellow
hardy olive
Arms Owns!
quaint otter
Arms owns
quasi torrent
demolish owns my sanity
rich kernel
For raid, fierce followthrough or oppurtinist?
rare kite
For raid, fierce followthrough or oppurtinist?
opportunist. grab the weakaura in madoxs arms video
rich kernel
opportunist. grab the weakaura in madoxs arms video
is there a link somewhere to that?
rare kite
just go on youtube and search madox arms guide, then the weakaura is in the description
icy mulch
Hey, grats on the purples?
magic canopy
hmmge?
icy mulch
Your server role
magic canopy
yeah its streamer role turns purp when you stream
magic canopy
yeeee
silk spade
icy mulch
I got my wheels and did some drifting. Too much lag to really enjoy though,
minor gust
Madox for Green
icy mulch
I love the music for a vast majority of WoW, except the goblin stuff.
tacit crystal
I love the music for a vast majority of WoW, except the goblin stuff.
soon
balmy kindle
I got my wheels and did some drifting. Too much lag to really enjoy though,
are the wheels rep locked or its just progress Main story
icy mulch
soon
I have a driving tasking tomorrow. Thursday I'm hanging out with a friend who's getting out of the military. Friday we could crush it.
icy mulch
are the wheels rep locked or its just progress Main story
You get the car while doing the storyline. There are soooooo many collectables to customize your car though. Those look to be rare mobs and quests.
sacred zodiac
dark kindle
Wat
maiden moat
someone from na can confirm old crest are gone ?
balmy kindle
Lol sometimes anti-woke crowd is pretty wtf 🤣
whatever "woke elements' in BG 3 is completely optional and u have to voluntarily pick those lines to go through
icy mulch
Yeah, that's bizarre. Cyberpunk 2077 would fall into the same category, but both are absolutely amazing games.
icy mulch
Ok, soooo, don't watch Edgerunners before you play it.
magic canopy
icy mulch
Best girl!
minor gust
you can find Rebeccas shotgun
icy mulch
I know, I also repayed Smasher
I made sure to follow this guy's build.
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxeps7QPiEOBmyllH0n5zup4dpnVTSz1Nv?si=C8KNWFCczWfKfzAR
untold trench
rich kernel
already did amazing show
you can find guts
icy mulch
God I did not want to admit this, but I have Becca's hair piece and working on making her jacket as well.
odd umbra
How bad is to macro overpower with Mortal Strike, and other with CLeave?
icy mulch
How bad is to macro overpower with Mortal Strike, and other with CLeave?
pointless
odd umbra
When to use overpower then?
icy mulch
They're both on the global cool down.
So you can simply weave overpower in between MS, slam, cleave, whatever.
rare kite
When to use overpower then?
read wowhead guide or watch madox video
icy mulch
ez way to think about it:
ST - MS any time it can be pressed > Overpower > Slam. Anything else is either a cool down or a maintenance button (to keep rend up).
Multi target - Replace MS with Cleave, rest is the same only add MS into the mix as well. Great eh?
rare kite
there's also opportunist to take into account. which is priod over ms
icy mulch
Overpower is gonna get pressed a lot either way.
rare kite
yes, but with us running EB there's a chance of overwriting opportunist if you just mindlessly spam MS when reset
quaint otter
Overpower is gonna get pressed a lot either way.
OP spec
quasi torrent
there's also opportunist to take into account. which is priod over ms
We hate this
but yes
rare kite
we hate arms
quaint otter
Arms owns
quasi torrent
whoopsie daisy guess jugg goes away!
hard cedar
Does the single target slayer build really not take Thunderous Words?
icy mulch
It's pretty rare you get 5 MS resets, but man when it does happen it would kinda suck to have to pause it. Though needing rage is still a thing.
quaint otter
whoopsie daisy guess jugg goes away!
Who cares im colossus now 
icy mulch
whoopsie daisy guess jugg goes away!
Yeah, not looking forward to that.
quasi torrent
Who cares im colossus now <:Arms:592471950278787080>
me when i do shite st
icy mulch
Who cares im colossus now <:Arms:592471950278787080>
Not in raid.
rare kite
I wonder if there's some tierset optimization as well, like if at max tier outside of execute phase you start to prio overpower more. tho that might just be me overcooking
shadow ibex
with opportunist sure
colossus gets OP buff but ur sending demo soon at max stacks anyway
icy mulch
You'd run out of OP charges.
balmy kindle
if its 0.5% i am not touching slayer for sure
icy mulch
Last thing you want is having dead globals waiting on rage or something to come off cool down.
rare kite
if its 0.5% i am not touching slayer for sure
only problem is there are several execute fights, so in practice prob more
or even if it's the same difference, the damage you do as slayer is more valuable. that's prob more correct
balmy kindle
dont think in heroic it would matter tho, but we shall see
icy mulch
slayer when BS does no dam
They do need to bring the storm part back to bladestorm. Right now it's more like a spaghetti slinger with unhinged being the big ol meat balls.
rare kite
oh in heroic do whatever you want
quaint otter
I just DEMOLISH bosses idc
quaint otter
Cuz slayer has more exe potential with mfe sure
strange perch
I just **DEMOLISH** bosses idc
good luck using demolish with dynamic bosses in 11.1.
quaint otter
good luck using demolish with dynamic bosses in 11.1.
Its an iq test
rare kite
their execute sims arent super apart
slayer juggernaut highrolling 
shadow ibex
balmy kindle
BG3 has a great deal of an actual player freedom ... inlike kingdom cucks 2.
my only pet peeve is i cant gut musa ( not sure why this guy is even in the game, barely believable, would had been more convincing if its prague)
icy mulch
BG3 has a great deal of an actual player freedom ... inlike kingdom cucks 2.
What game?
lol
shadow ibex
convergence is at hand
strange perch
convergence is at hand
MICRONOVA IS HERE
quasi torrent
my only pet peeve is i cant gut musa ( not sure why this guy is even in the game...
He is totally fine where he is
if there was multiple it would've been questionable
balmy kindle
He is totally fine where he is
if there was multiple it would've been questionab...
my main issue is kuttenberg is REALLY far from africa
icy mulch
I don't know what game you're talking about, but it sound like one I want to avoid.
quasi torrent
my main issue is kuttenberg is REALLY far from africa
.. so is praha?
quaint otter
balmy kindle
Prague is quite the focal point of bohmeia tho and theres actual records of merchants going there
Kuttenberg is more like Germany beta version
quaint otter
.. so is praha?
Rarely see someone calls it praha lol
balmy kindle
nevertheless the game was enjoyable so i didnt care much about musa 
quasi torrent
Rarely see someone calls it praha lol
me when i know 1 thing about a neighbouring country
quaint otter
balmy kindle
just waiting for china to make a KCD clone but with Ming's emperor , gonna be based as f
quaint otter
speaking of china
strange perch
Wukong was a glorified boss rush ... I am not sure if CCP can pull this off
quaint otter
why i have 2-3 china nicknames each lobby in league
wanton frost
Kind of a minor thing, but has anyone noticed the animation for cleave now gets overwritten by slam's animation when fervor of battle is talented?
Was testing the changes on dummies and thought cleave was borked at first, but now noticing that it's still damaging all the targets in front of me, but it's just playing the slam animation and looking like I'm just striking the targeted dummy instead
Not really a big deal, but looks dumb as hell
strange perch
Let us be thankfull that Colossus smash/Warbreaker animation went back into the oven
wanton frost
I've never seen it do this before and it really threw me off
And yeah, though the warbreaker one still looks awful imo
wish the weird spirit ghost weapons were just a glyph or something
wanton frost
ngl kinda makes me not want to run it because I genuinely think it looks so scuffed
not sure how much I'd be handicapping myself though
icy mulch
Let us be thankfull that Colossus smash/Warbreaker animation went back into the...
It's still not that good. The fan made one is 100 times better.
strange perch
ngl kinda makes me not want to run it because I genuinely think it looks so scuf...
I suppose it was a typical manager/employee enforcement - force people to do things faster and faster, cut corners etc. Example from my prev. job - "better to have 100 small commites than 5-6 large ones".
Art and Music carry WoW
balmy kindle
Kind of a minor thing, but has anyone noticed the animation for cleave now gets ...
it doesnt look that terrible on human / elf animation tbf , you playing orc ?
wanton frost
It's strange because I genuinely don't know why they needed to make a new one
Old animations were fine? Idk, maybe coulda been touched up a bit but damn, not like this
strange perch
wanton frost
it doesnt look that terrible on human / elf animation tbf <:deadge:9002799271385...
Nah the slam one isn't bad, just weird
warbreaker is what I think looks ass
It was just odd seeing my character do an overhead strike when casting "cleave"
strange perch
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/540498-warbreaker.jpg
Now this is WARBREAKER (please give us void glyph in Midnight)
jaunty latch
Hi there, im new at this server, i rlly dont know how much have changed is the slayer build worse now?
minor gust
No slayer is still the goto raid build
balmy kindle
true the new warbreaker swing animation looks kinda floaty with that overhead
icy mulch
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/540498-warbreaker.jpg
Now thi...
Here is the fan made one
https://imgur.com/a/DlGkW8x
strange perch
Here is the fan made one
https://imgur.com/a/DlGkW8x
Excellent!
icy mulch
This was just some guy on the forums. Posted it after the first iteration came out.
Anyways, gotta get up early. Goodnight everyone.
balmy kindle
netizen making better stuff than devs
tardy hare
Can we all agree to play fury this week so we don’t get nerfed because of what people see during a week that means nothing
dire copper
Yeah I don't think our green parses are gonna make the difference lmao
realistically just made/refined my weak auras and excited to not play fury this tier
quaint otter
Can we all agree to play fury this week so we don’t get nerfed because of what p...
BETTER PLAY ENCHSHAMAN
Why set up for ur brother spec
balmy kindle
does some funky 1h overhead swing 
shadow ibex
thats the ww animation
balmy kindle
makes sense for whirlwind, but for warbreaker ehh
hardy olive
guys can we hav the old wb animation back plz?
quaint otter
minor gust
Bloodbound
quaint otter
5% nerf already
lean geode
Bloodbound
Tmy did more than that like 3 weeks ago
tacit crystal
me when tmy
minor gust
Tmy did more than that like 3 weeks ago
Im not Tmy what a surprise
regal pagoda
Has anyone tested if the ravager sweeping tech still works or did they fix it?
fathom shoal
the new wowhead guide refers to it as fixed - havent tested
regal pagoda
ok ty
nova marsh
5% nerf already
Really lmafo?
quaint otter
Really lmafo?
i mean the 5% aura nerf dropped with the patch
brisk bridge
Did the guides get updated? how does arms compare to fury now?
lean geode
Yes they're updated, there might be some minor things that still need fixing but those will be done by next Tuesday
Arms is very slightly ahead of fury in pure single target in a vacuum, but specific fight timings will probably make different specs better on different fights
Arms will probably do more overall and has better big-pull aoe in keys, but fury has better prio and boss dam
So basically play what you want, both specs are good for different reasons 
brisk bridge
Whoa ok so Arms and Fury switched? Arms used to be more prio 😛
rare kite
Whoa ok so Arms and Fury switched? Arms used to be more prio 😛
arms hasn't been more prio in many many years
well 3 years atleast, my memory of shadowlands is hazy
brisk bridge
Last season Fury was way ahead of arms, so I guess the gap is smaller now?
cloud dawn
could probably argue S3 as well
dire copper
kinda, was just dog until legendary either way
rare kite
nahh, jugg build was ass in s3 df and the only prio arms had in s2 was sks. which ofcourse was strong, but still i wouldn't call arms a prio spec then
dire copper
Arms and fury realistically were close last season, it's just fury could talent into AoE easier and every fight had AoE
tacit crystal
nahh, jugg build was ass in s3 df and the only prio arms had in s2 was sks. whic...
hi where is my ww build
dire copper
the only two that didn't - kyveza and sikran - actually had arms parse higher on average lol
rare kite
hi where is my ww build
in the dumpster. it was beyond garbage, less aoe than bladestorm and less st
cloud dawn
Felt like i was running out of rage and just sitting there autoing with gcds on cooldown last season with arms
Feels a bit better now
dire copper
yeah that's S1 problems when you don't have 40% haste lol
cloud dawn
It was disgusting, at least with fury there was always something to press
rare kite
Felt like i was running out of rage and just sitting there autoing with gcds on ...
depending on what talents you were running that's just how arms plays. execute phase with only EP you're gonna starve
cloud dawn
depending on what talents you were running that's just how arms plays. execute p...
Yeah just felt jarring after coming from 3 seasons in DF being able to dump executes at will then easily weaving between ms and cleaves in S4 then just rage starved and hitting like a wet noodle in S1 WW
that last 30% on Fyrakk felt amazing as arms
rare kite
Yeah just felt jarring after coming from 3 seasons in DF being able to dump exec...
next season it's gonna feel way better. more stats and we play finishing blows in execute
knotty orchid
10% nerf inc
lean geode
10% nerf would be absolutely wild
We still don't know how anything actually performs in practice
shadow ibex
we arent raiding this week
shrewd niche
Imagine not getting a break this week
lean geode
Just for reference, here are 10.0.7 single target sims vs mythic kyveza logs - sims are very useful for a lot of reasons, but at the end of the day they're just a model
lean geode
im the only one who tried colossus on court tonight
p3 damage amp without exe giving colossal might
minor gust
its a meme but still funny to look at
Ik no one raided tonight on NA when im rank 1 for Court and Queen
minor gust
lean geode
I paid for nitro so I could type in skyhold
rare kite
ngl tempting and for the animated 
minor gust
sage badge
I paid for nitro so I could type <a:chatting:1266019851743399996> in skyhold
This is me
cosmic fossil
dire hinge
^ like 99% of my animated emoji reactions
the worst part is the frog head doesn't move
it's just the eyes and mouth bobbing up and down
minor gust
latent arrow
Can we do m+ today?
thick kelp
not season2 m+
scarlet dome
And also no m0 right?
eager sigil
But season 1 keys are still available?
yea
magic canopy
i should probably add that animated emote to my actual channel lmao
grizzled estuary
hey guys, do i even need to bind slam/rend pls
thick kelp
yes
minor gust
I doom because the design sucks balls you doom because of numbers we are not the same
cobalt sinew
the hits do feel considerably more chunky now
rare kite
it feels great
just wait til you lose all juggernaut stacks right before execute phase
daring heron
the hits do feel considerably more chunky now
"it's still a net nerf" - youtube commenter 🤡
thick kelp
"net nerf" whilst arms sim went up by 900k by just patch coming in
minor gust
rare kite
the nerf hit all abilties, the buff only buffed some abilities. therefore more nerf
cobalt sinew
whats the rush
minor gust
66% MS buff clearly not enough for that poor commenter
thick kelp
jk my sim only went up by 400k
minor gust
damn arms dead
reef glade
o got the cool warbreaker animation now
or hmm
the sword falling is cool but idk why its just a whirlwind
shoulda been the stomp and swords at the same time
minor gust
reusing the WW animation istead of making something new was uh big L
reef glade
yer
magic canopy
its crazy how strong our 4p is
rare kite
its crazy how strong our 4p is
is it actually that strong tho? it feels great when it procs for sure
magic canopy
i think its the second highest dps gain behind prot warriro
naive sage
its crazy how strong our 4p is
What are you talking about, it’s shit, it needs 31% buff at least, facts no cap
rare kite
i think its the second highest dps gain behind prot warriro
nice, i saw like a spreadsheet earlier. but idk how reliable that was, some guy just linked it in here or fury chat somewhere
reef glade
when you go up the necrotic wake thing after 2nd boss your camera fucks up
at least it did for my entire group
and was like stuck moving lefti nstead of forward
so had to reload and lost my entire details
but i had to have done like 2.5m overall that dungeon or somethin as arms
but can at least marvel at this from necropolis to the end
arms so fun mane
steel portal
more fun than fury? what about it is so fun? 😛
reef glade
just having 80% of your peak damage literally every pack you walk up to
dire copper
Yeah, hearing that arms is gonna overtake fury in M+ is jarring lmao
reef glade
i mean arms almost always been better cuz of uncapped
but its like real noticable now i think
minor gust
Yee colossus is atleast enjoyable in M+ its carrying TWW arms gameplay pretty hard for me
reef glade
thane did go hard too in another key i did
steel portal
just having 80% of your peak damage literally every pack you walk up to
cause of shorter cooldowns?
reef glade
yea i mean all your damaging cds are on primarily like a 30sec ish cd
some demolish cdr and a lot of AM cdr on warbreaker
and the sweeping strikes collat dam cleave
i held like a full stack collat cleave from 1 pack into the next with every cd and transmitter lining up
and this shit crit for 13mil
in a 12 necrotic on just regular mobs
steel portal
did you see the 13M number in real time when it happend? 🙂
steel portal
I bet that felt good ;O
reef glade
cuz typically warbreaker runs out before sweeping so generally its only like 3-5m cleave crits
idk if its better to hold WB for a few sec after sweep tho
slow saddle
its bad that we do this much dmg in prepatch
reef glade
maybe just so you can force the huge cleave under WB
reef glade
its funny anytime we pulled a pack the mage is combusting and it died in 10sec before he could do a nything
if it lived long enough we were pretty close
but i think mage is like full cd reliant
minor gust
mage is all about combustion
but they need the pack to live long enough to farm enough cdr to have it for every pack
steel portal
damn you took all the fun from him and ate it yourself
rare kite
mage pretty tierset reliable i think. their s2 tier reduces combust cd by alot
slow saddle
so what u saying once again in a dead week we are good, coz old tier is better than new tier
and other classes are worse, so blizzard wont notice
reef glade
arms tier not that bad no
slow saddle
and then we get the stick ?
reef glade
and is current tier even that crazy
like sometimes cleave does 10% more dmg and 10% more crit
can stack up to 2 tims ig
but think quite a lot of the dmg is just in the spec
slow saddle
yes
and that is a big issue coz of blizzard knee jerk reactions
im guessing enhancement shaman is a bit worse until they get tier?
and once they get tier blizzard is like
reef glade
idk havent seen one yet
slow saddle
im prob 100% doomin for no reason.
its just the way it usually is
specs that perform well with no gear
vapid pine
Balancing around tier sets aren't usually as bad as balancing around .5 and .7 patches
slow saddle
plz
vapid pine
Because Blizzard doesn't want to make big nerfs end of patch due to meta rerollers
reef glade
if you get some lucky EB resets
slow saddle
that
reef glade
cleave 4 times in a row
but idk arms does also sorta like "ramp" a bit up to the collat cleave after sweeping ends
think thats about when you hit the peak generally
but even better if you carry one into the next pack >:)
slow saddle
did u try a key with ret + enhancement shaman
reef glade
did a siege with a ret as fury but he died on cd
so couldnt tell much there
man i want to do silken court so bad
with this new arms
even tho i never pulled the boss as arms
surely some guild deranged enough to raid this week and need warrior man
steel portal
are you gonna main arms or fury this season? 😛
reef glade
idk
fury still less buttons generally
feels like to me at least
i think arms like is behind fury with no tier but gets ahead with tier for ST
reef glade
but again pure st and doesnt rly matter in average guilds like me
yea its not that good dont think
and an extra hotbar slot for not much gain
deep wounds and rend just kinda a lot smaller significance i think
since cleave/demolish/ms are the big hitters better to buff them
clear rain
i see
swift crown
Fuck SkS all my homies hate SkS
slow saddle
my issue is more
reef glade
slow saddle
that slayer arms is so dependant on lucky break
so hit sim
slayer fury isnt
so if its only 50k in between id guess fury in gen will perform great
rare kite
@slow saddle i mean the sim averages out
slow saddle
<@242626242254209025> i mean the sim averages out
SHH, Let me pretend that why i dont hit sims ever !
^_^
thick kelp
i think arms like is behind fury with no tier but gets ahead with tier for ST
How much does your fury sim
reef glade
idk didnt bother but ig can try both
surely the 2 wowhead builds for each will not lead me astray
thick kelp
the wowhead builds work ye