arms

[stuck nimbus]

what hero tree for hit hard

(next patch)

[minor gust]

prot

[olive nest]

Arms

[stuck nimbus]

What hero tree are we looking to use in raid and in m+? Or are they both close enough?

[minor gust]

Raid = Slayer M+ = Col

[slow saddle]

Y make it, so its available once bad guilds start proggin first wall boss

[stuck nimbus]

any changes to embelishments?

[shadow ibex]

I might cut back on m+ I'm kinda sad colossus gameplay is unchanged

Cleave cleave cleave for 6 more months I can't

[stuck nimbus]

just letting people know that this is copy pasted from the fury article and we don't have slayer and mountain thane talent trees idk who mantains that

[thick kelp]

@smoky kayak

but im thinking all the pages are wip atm

so dont look too deep into it

[lean geode]

Double dawnthread next season (probably after you craft a weapon, idk, you can also craft ascension on your weapon temporarily if you want to be sweaty) but tbh embellishments are all kinda shite

[steep osprey]

LMFAO

[smoky kayak]

man the patch isn't even live yet

[steep osprey]

that's so funny

[lucid gull]

Man can't catch a break

[steep osprey]

66% damage on MS

[lucid gull]

Same people that prob never look at pins or Updates going "Why isn't this updated"

[stuck nimbus]

lol I just meant to let whoever know just in case they didn't notice, not complaining it's very clear what the guide means

[quaint otter]

When was that? Sl s1?

[steep osprey]

this is for next seaeson

season

[orchid panther]

official patch notes just dropped

[minor gust]

Man when you see it all together they did a ton of class changes this patch

[steep osprey]

I mean, they always do

[fresh spire]

blanket buffs to all abilities on major rotation 2x, additonal buff to MS on the MP nerf

stacked

[minor gust]

Hmm lots of developer notes this time really padded it out

[quaint otter]

Ah so its like summed up

[wheat lagoon]

nah, they got a nerf up their sleeve

[sage badge]

They need to remove the 5% all ability damage reduction from that list.

[sharp wyvern]

should have made it into 3 more passive multipliers

[minor gust]

just a reminder

[sharp wyvern]

blizz is lacking

[minor gust]

[sharp wyvern]

this is what they say right before a rework

[wheat lagoon]

now here's another 5% nerf to your overall

[sharp wyvern]

[shadow ibex]

Dance of death

[slow saddle]

We will get to pump week 1

Well week 0

[gaunt owl]

wait whut

[dim basalt]

Im honestly scared we will pump stupid amounts of damage week 1 and Blizz starts hitting the nerf button as hard as never before

[slow saddle]

Blizzard fuckin pls

Dont touch

Untill all got 4p

Like pls

[minor gust]

were not that far enough ahead especially after nerfs

[quaint otter]

Then we're first to die in nerfocalypse?

[slow saddle]

If they nerf us and dont touch shaman

I dno

[quaint otter]

Reroll league

[dim basalt]

Whats funny is that lots of people are complaining about enh while ele could be the bigger culprit atm

On ptr I mean

[sharp wyvern]

but thats fine cause ele hasnt been played for years

[quaint otter]

Cuz pts isnt real date

Data

[dim basalt]

But you know shits real when Petko himself puts ele on S tier

but ye we will see

[shadow ibex]

It needs a nerf

If we do

[quaint otter]

wasnt ele strong as fuck in df1 and df3 tho?

[sharp wyvern]

but thats when enh was needed for windfury so no one took it

[quaint otter]

[sharp wyvern]

they made windfury baseline for all specs and still made enh the best spec

[quaint otter]

they have to make gazzilion damage baseline for all specs

oh wait

[gaunt owl]

[tacit crystal]

hi ppaww

[gaunt owl]

hi Gio

[trim niche]

Looks like the class guide got updated but the slayer M+ build's code broke: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/talent-builds-pve-dps#mplus-build-slayer-smoother-damage-profile

[minor gust]

@smoky kayak

[smoky kayak]

the

patch

isn't

live

yet

[olive nest]

400 words per minute standard

[trim niche]

I know, was just letting someone know the code broke after it was pushed to wowhead

[smoky kayak]

it's broke because the patch isn't live

[dim basalt]

Its not broken

[smoky kayak]

and you're looking at the live page

you need to swap to the PTR version of the page to look at PTR data

[dim basalt]

It uses the talent string from the new tree for the old tree cuz we are not on 11.1 yet

[coral crescent]

i think the play is to mute discord until tomorrow and then mark all as read xdd

[olive nest]

“There’s a ptr version of wowhead” 🤯

[smoky kayak]

this is unironically why raidbots freezes updates before the patch lol

cause people get really confused, not their fault, just happens every single time there's a patch lol

[trim niche]

Hmmm, okay. I was looking at Automaticjak's Disc Priest guide on live and it worked fine.

[coral crescent]

[trim niche]

Also broken on 11.1 PTR: https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/guide/classes/warrior/arms/talent-builds-pve-dps#mplus-build-slayer-smoother-damage-profile

[gaunt owl]

smartest warrior player

[smoky kayak]

idk shit about priests, but either
A) their tree didn't change the way ours did
B) they forced PTR data
C) something else

[dim basalt]

Did priest even get talent changes

[minor gust]

[trim niche]

They did have quite a few shuffles, I am going to guess something on Wowhead side of things broke.

[dim basalt]

If the overall structure is still the same it doesnt break

[smoky kayak]

I don't think that page is even updated yet lol

anyway TLDR, don't look at shit early

you're gonna have problems

[trim niche]

And it's only 1 specific build linked (Slayer M+). Which leads me to believe it's a specific code on that element.

[smoky kayak]

if you see somethin broke, just be patient, it'll almost certainly be fixed on patch day

[trim niche]

I am only letting you know in case you didn't see it.

[gaunt owl]

if its broke after 2 days when patch is live

thats when shit broke for real

[olive nest]

Guys where is the mythic gallywix strategy on wowhead? I think the raids page is broken

[minor gust]

[gaunt owl]

hit boss, dodge shit, play the game, skill issue

[dim basalt]

Man Im gonna be hyped to see the Gallywix fight

[smoky kayak]

I appreciate it, just gimme time to work

[trim niche]

No worries, wanted to make sure I mentioned it.

[smoky kayak]

actually this is why

we used to have two Slayer M+ builds - one with and one without Juggernaut, but I depreciated the latter in favor of just the former (cause frankly, Slayer without Jugg is just bad Colossus)

[trim niche]

It also seems wowhead is kind of broken across the board. It seems to be resizing when you switch tabs and it shouldn't be (It's happening everywhere)

[smoky kayak]

but because of the order of builds, it was still trying to "find" the now removed version; if you reload the page it should be fixed (though a lot of the text on that page is still awaiting updates)

[smoky kayak]

that sounds like more of a backend site issue - do you have an example?

[dim basalt]

How does updating the guide even work - can you submit it immediately or does someone have to check everythings alright

[smoky kayak]

I update them directly; we do have proofreaders/editors (which I'm actually one of), but I'm one of the most senior writers, so my changes don't need any kind of approval

[dim basalt]

I see

[trim niche]

It's an issue across every guide. But it I click on Colossus tab, it resizes everything to be bigger and vertical vs horizontal. Again, this is happening everywhere not just arms warrior

[smoky kayak]

yeah show me an example if you can, because I don't see that

are you on mobile? cause mobile sucks terribly

[dim basalt]

Tbf making a responsive design is hard

[trim niche]

On a desktop:

[smoky kayak]

this works fine for me

[trim niche]

Ahh, this is probably a browser issue

[smoky kayak]

huh... that second screenshot looks really weird

[dim basalt]

Cant be browser related

[smoky kayak]

Yeah, it kinda looks that way, like top bar links are in the middle of the screen

[dim basalt]

Its probably because some javascript cant figure out how to render the talent tree for your specific resolution

So it does that

[smoky kayak]

maybe some really wonky resolution, like a vertical monitor?

[trim niche]

Sorry this is an apples to apples

it's 21:9

Even my 16:9 is doing it

[smoky kayak]

lemme open incognito

I just don't get why there's so much dead space on the left/right of your screenshots

[trim niche]

Oh that's full screen 21:9

[dim basalt]

Could also be related to (blocked) ads

[smoky kayak]

this is my full screen incognito

[trim niche]

The issue seems to be just me. As mentioned, other guides on wowhead are doing the same thing for me. It's a me issue.

[smoky kayak]

Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out if it's a browser issue, aspect ratio, or something else so that I can inform our guys

because if you're having the issue, however obscure, it's possible someone else running the same setup does as well

[lost kernel]

anyone have excel spreadshit with all tier set classes dps in season 2?

[trim niche]

Gotcha. I have a second 16:9 monitor as well. Seems to be doing the same thing

[dim basalt]

It does even weirder shit for me btw

[smoky kayak]

maybe some odd extensions?

idk this is very much a "works fine on my machine" situation, so it's hard to say without seeing what your seeing/using

[trim niche]

I tried incognito, didn't help. I cleared cash back 1 hour

[dim basalt]

Colossus tree just entirely gone haha

[trim niche]

You too?

[last inlet]

mine does this on chrome, ultra wide monitor 21:9, idk if being an UWM matters but...

[trim niche]

It only does it when I click another tab. When it initially loads it's fine

[last inlet]

yeah

[trim niche]

16:9 is doing it to me too

[last inlet]

idk, it is what it is, i just zoom out

CTRL+mousewheel

[dim basalt]

Now it works fine for me

[covert drift]

He probably have a massive monitor, maybe ultrawide, and the main content container is set to a max-width

[dim basalt]

I assume its the framework having issues with updating for the resolution

[covert drift]

And on heis pc it appears small and centered

[dire hinge]

my guess would be JS issue. Every time you swap tabs back and forth once it occurs, it throws this:
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot set properties of null (setting 'innerText') --> Guide.js?df3b3c8382
people might be getting served different js file versions would be my guess

[dim basalt]

Nah that prob doesnt do anything

[covert drift]

Maybe the width of the container is set to an static value instead of a dynamic one

[dim basalt]

Possibly

[covert drift]

most websites are not made with ultrawide in mind

[last inlet]

i mean, it dosen't bother me so xD just wanted to throw my 2 cents

[dim basalt]

Either that or under specific conditions the component doesnt re-render

[grand idol]

I see what he is seeing when I swap between the two trees. It flashes for a moment and then corrects to side by side.

[trim niche]

Didn't fix for me

[grand idol]

(which I assume is correct behavior)

[trim niche]

Doing the same thing on my 16:9

[grand idol]

Im using a quite wide monitor, Edge browser. perhaps its a browser issue>?

[smoky kayak]

maybe, try a diff browser and see?

[trim niche]

Chrome here, edge and chrome share the same backend

[dim basalt]

ye, it has some default behaviour, checks the screen width and realizes it can render it differently

Which I assume does not always happen for whatever reason

[smoky kayak]

idk but this def isn't a content issue, so I'll poke our devs about it and let them figure it out

[trim niche]

Same issue on edge. Yes it's definitely not a content issue.

[dim basalt]

Honestly what youre seeing there is normal

Happens with every site nowadays lmao

[trim niche]

It's all I have to offer 😦

[smoky kayak]

Yeah, I mean thanks for bringing it up, just nothing I can do about it on my end

[iron vigil]

do we really have to farm delves? 😦

[thick kelp]

depends if your raid leader is a generous man

[last inlet]

zoomed out too much 😄

[iron vigil]

guess my answer

[trim niche]

Any guild that isn't CE and forces you to do content especially week 1 doesn't deserve you. Hell you don't really even need M+ if you aren't going for CE.

[junior lava]

Does anyone know if M0 is out tomorrow or with S2?

[dim basalt]

tomorrow

[lean geode]

Or a % width vs vw thing

[junior lava]

Oh shit

[quaint otter]

what if m+ is the only content i play in this game

[tacit crystal]

@edgy solstice banga tweet by you one day ago

[trim niche]

Then this doesn't apply xD

[dim basalt]

Good luck getting your hands on the good trinkets

😦

[hybrid canopy]

hey gamers

how yall doin

[dire hinge]

holding up well excited for next week

[hybrid canopy]

same

I wanna try arms but idk lol

[lunar remnant]

Arms ain't that bad once you do a few runs

[hybrid canopy]

I wanna keep it up as an alt since I main DK and we only have one warrior

been only doing fury and prot

haven't touched arms yet

[dim basalt]

Its not gonna feel as "fluent" as fury if youre expecting that

[lunar remnant]

Def a little more higher ceiling than fury but not by much it's clunky at times compared to fury imo

[hybrid canopy]

🗒️ I see

[timber lynx]

is king

[dire hinge]

it's cozy though. Agreed it's not super fluid, but it's also not overly complex.

Mortal Strike is gonna juice in single target
Cleave is going to absolutely do mind-boggling dps in AoE

[dim basalt]

Now buff Demolish even more

[gaunt owl]

its not critting all the time

they should make it like Chaos Bolt

[alpine veldt]

What talents now for arms

m+

[dire hinge]

buff MS base, change OP buff to stack crit%?

[dim basalt]

Dunno if I want another buff to keep up

Either its so weak that dropping it doesnt matter or its so good that dropping it sucks as much as dropping jugg

[sharp tendon]

With collosus u need like 30% crit to let it work?

[hybrid canopy]

question, do we mainly do slayer or colossus in raid and m+

out of curiosity

[dim basalt]

Slayer raid, colossus M+

[dire hinge]

there's a few options being tested currently, guides will be updated soon, or you can poke around the data spreadsheet here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10g479vXesC382k68gw4akUKeuGUodbDho0yhKK6Eh0w/edit?gid=493889490#gid=493889490

[hybrid canopy]

📓

I see

what's the gameplay of colossus

I already know slayer

[dim basalt]

Not too different

Less executes but another ability to press roughly every 30s

That you wanna combine with other cds if possible

[dire hinge]

You use a new ability called Demolish, which roots you in place and you do a big channeled hit
your normal rotation gives it stacks that does more damage

[hybrid canopy]

oooh gotcha

[dire hinge]

also you swap to Ravager instead of Bladestorm

[dim basalt]

(fuck bladestorm)

[dire hinge]

the practical impact of Ravager is that during Execute Phase you don't cast Mortal Strike if Ravager is active

You Execute between the auto-MS's that get generated by Ravager instead

but that's basssically it

[alpine veldt]

thanks brother

[dire hinge]

happy to help friend, good luck out there in Season 2 and we're here to help with any questions that arise 🥰

[fresh spire]

helped me find where execute was

[hallow mortar]

do we have to track opportunist procs still or is it a bit easier considering tier set change

[candid pecan]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-1-undermine-d-official-patch-notes-373971?utm_source=discord-webhook if you scroll for 2 years, shouldn't Ms be 44% and not 66? did it get buffed 3 times?

[hallow mortar]

asking cause tracking it so it takes prio over MS screwed me up this past tier

[minor gust]

you dont track opportunist because of the tier set you track it because the buff makes op stronger

so yeah you still need to track opportunist in 11.1

[hallow mortar]

well both

but i get what youre saying

so opportunist OP is still higher prio than MS?

[minor gust]

yes

[hallow mortar]

even with EP stacks? oof

[shadow ibex]

opportunist has entered the chat

[candid pecan]

10 stacks winning streak with opportunist

[hallow mortar]

yeah i saw some commentary about moving power from OP to MS a few months ago, is why im asking

idk if it was that specifically, that you posted

but feels like its not the case at all yeah?

[fresh spire]

15% 20% 20%

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[fresh spire]

scaling, 100%->115% 115%->20% again etc

[shadow ibex]

OP is hitting harder than its ever before

[hallow mortar]

lol blizz

[pseudo crow]

hey ! no 2craft on the bis list wow head ?

[shadow ibex]

that statement was just some buzzwords

[tacit crystal]

i concur

[shadow ibex]

like idk what they mean by moving dmg from MP to MS+ cleave = open up more rotational and build options?

[tacit crystal]

do you know where the execute is?

[shadow ibex]

our builds havent really changed

[candid pecan]

oh yeah from nerfing MP, 15% inc on MS, RIIGHT, 1.15 * 1.2 * 1.2 = 1.656 , so rounded its 66%

[dim basalt]

whoa gio with a new pfp

[hallow mortar]

[shadow ibex]

and MP wasnt changing our roation

opportunist was

[minor gust]

they dont really think things through when they make warrior changes

nothing new

[tacit crystal]

ive powered up

[hallow mortar]

smooth braining it up

[gaunt owl]

its been so long we asked for Martial Prowess to not be so fucking ridiculously strong compared to EP

[shadow ibex]

just giving benefit of the doubt and really parse thru what they said

yea but they said it was done to open up build and rotation options, neither of which happened

[hallow mortar]

sounds like very typical to me

[shadow ibex]

i mean i guess if you count slayer going for EB now, but thats probably like 60/40% bleeds being weaker vs ms strong

[gaunt owl]

they cant open build diversity

too many fucking amp here and there that always hard lock the choice to be optimal

[shadow ibex]

lowering MP % buff didnt open up any rotation change. we weren't prio OP over MS cuz of MP, its cuz of opportun

[gaunt owl]

it should help with the Execute rotation too

we probably wont see a spam Execute anymore with those change

[noble path]

What % is Arms and Furys Tier worth?

[thick kelp]

fury is 3-4%

arms is 7-8%

[noble path]

When do you swap with old tier? 2 set 2 set?

[thick kelp]

idk

sim it

[thick hamlet]

can i get a clarification on this? my warrior brain can't understand

colossus should use its hardest hitting abilities, so we made it so u use execute less?

[sharp wyvern]

they want you to prioritize MS over execute

cause MS is the spec

[gaunt owl]

Mortal Stroke

[thick hamlet]

seems weird

[dim basalt]

This made me laugh harder than it should have

[sharp wyvern]

for colossus execute isnt supposed to be a hard hitting ability in their eyes

[naive breach]

im about to mortal strike

[thick hamlet]

okay maybe im still too peanut brain for this

[thick kelp]

Frappe Mortelle

[thick hamlet]

if they made mortal strike hit like a truck (harder than execute), but execute still gives stacks, you still would want to mortal stroke over execute

so why remove that

[shadow ibex]

it was BS anyway. we weren't using exe too much

like that reasoning was a complete lie lol

we weren't prio exe over MS as colossus. you couldnt afford the damn thing

[dim basalt]

Bet that change was with only prot in mind

And they forgot Arms exists

[sharp wyvern]

exe exe MS

[gaunt owl]

we asked for MS to hit hard on its own for a long time

[sharp wyvern]

cause EP

[shadow ibex]

im almost certain it was still used on CD despite EP by most anyone playing colossus in keys

[sharp wyvern]

we still are gonna do that but now we will prioritice MS procs over getting that 2nd EP stack

talking out of my ass btw

[shadow ibex]

it just doesnt make sense at all

[thick hamlet]

that's just forcing the spec to play a specific way instead of tuning it properly

if it's tuned as it should be with MS hitting like a truck, you'd always use it over execute

[sharp wyvern]

thats part of the tuning

[trail orbit]

when we go colo - outside of the first initial use we are trying to use it at 10 stacks & cmash ya?

[shadow ibex]

it didnt use exe any more than a normal arms spec. no one was playing colossus in raid so idk where they got too much exe usage?

[thick kelp]

Welcome to blizzard class design 101

[sharp wyvern]

things get nerfed so we will prioritize other spells

[shadow ibex]

like really really think about it

[sharp wyvern]

thats tuning

[shadow ibex]

where were these colossus warriors usign exe too much? not in raid because no one raided as colossus

[sharp wyvern]

m+ ST

[shadow ibex]

we didnt use it in m+ cuz we cant afford it

so where the hell was this over the top exe usage

u cant even go ok in raid as ST as devils advocate because like 7 ppl players colossus in raid and they are here and they did it after prog

[thick hamlet]

execute in m+ colossus with SS up was a fun minigame to stack up on demolish quicker

[fading aspen]

they should have made the tier set called "gambling debt" and allowed us to go negative on our rage 5head

[sharp wyvern]

yeah i can only imagine they didnt want us cleaving and getting a stack every gcd

[shadow ibex]

im really at the point where if im gonna run EP in colossus keys im just gonna run fatality or smth

[dim basalt]

We get a stack pretty much every gcd anyway

[shadow ibex]

cuz i cant afford EP anyway

[sharp wyvern]

thats kind of a lie if you are on low rage only if you are above 20 you cant but as collosus MS costs 10 and exe is a minimum of 20

[shadow ibex]

if you send every 20 rage exe as possible as colossus, u cant press buttons

thats the problem tbh. if you spam exe u'll never get above 26 rage

cuz the refund + auto isnt enough for an MS ever

[sharp wyvern]

fopr aoe situations and Demolish Cdr it can make sens e

[shadow ibex]

so again idk why the fuck they think we were spamming exe

[sharp wyvern]

but it would be unoptimal to do that

so yeah

[thick hamlet]

even if that's the usage, why try to prevent it

is that somehow bad design?

or even unfun gameplay

[sharp wyvern]

cause they want MS to be the main character for collosus

and execute for slayer

[thick hamlet]

but it is

[shadow ibex]

it already was

[sharp wyvern]

clearly not enough

[thick hamlet]

clearly to who, i don't get that part

i'm sure there's something we're not seeing

[sharp wyvern]

blizz devs

[shadow ibex]

going by the reason they gave

it just wasnt true

[pseudo crow]

slayer for raid et coll for mythic that's right ?

[thick hamlet]

the reason they gave doesn't apply

[sharp wyvern]

they also said they want OF to be a good button

lets not pretent they give good reasons

[thick hamlet]

those little "notes" they give are often wildly innacurate

like "moving the damage of MS and cleave baseline to open up rotational and build options"

what does that even mean

wrote by a politician

[thick kelp]

it means nothing with these talent trees

old talent trees that would mean something

like we can talent another active ability etc

[sharp wyvern]

i miss 6 rows of talents

[naive breach]

[ancient birch]

i didn't play any of the 0.5 patch. Is it worth getting the ring for next patch or should i just leave it?

[fading aspen]

i'm new to arms this tier, honestly the only things that annoy me are awkward lineups for cooldowns and sweeping strikes being on the gcd. other than that the rotation feels fine but maybe i'm cooked

[sharp wyvern]

its gonna be BiS until nerfed

[fading aspen]

it doesn't take long at all either

[ancient birch]

think the'll nerf it when patch drops

or do what they did in dragonflight

[sharp wyvern]

sweeping is on half the gcd to be fair

[sharp wyvern]

they did it after a WHILE

they want you to have it until late mythic

[fading aspen]

oh wow i didn't even know that lol, i'm always just spamming the next button regardless

[sharp wyvern]

its not like it matters

[shadow ibex]

moving power to cleave to open more build options

MY BROTHER IN CHRIST CLEAVE IS THE ONLY OPTION

[sharp wyvern]

moving power to cleave makes us use whirlwing more

[naive breach]

[shadow ibex]

5 target breakdown

[thick kelp]

they meant Dreadnought to be the aoe thing but forgot to buff it

[shadow ibex]

cant wait to do this for 8 months

60% of my dmg from two buttons

[sharp wyvern]

at least cleave is a good button

[naive breach]

at least im not pressing whirlwind

[sharp wyvern]

they should make cleave give demolish stacks

[soft gust]

How does our M+ ST look in 11.1 compared to now

[sharp wyvern]

better

[naive breach]

i didint even check

thane ST is better?

[dim basalt]

We dont have access to thane

Did you mean to go to #fury ?

[naive breach]

ye i mean fury

ofc

[fading aspen]

i'm just excited to blast

[shadow ibex]

same

[naive breach]

same

[sharp wyvern]

• for 1 week

[naive breach]

until some shit happens in raid

and we get 5 nerfs back 2 back again

[warm crown]

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ttPYw4gYQv3bKLqUMoBtRG eye of kezan fix?

[thick kelp]

what fix

[shadow ibex]

15 applications but it did dam

how do it get to 20

[warm crown]

idk some dh apl guy

said smth about eye of kezan

and now number on sim go up

[thick kelp]

it did go up by 30k

very cool

fix shows it was fixed to no longer gain stacks out of combat

[warm crown]

very poggers

number go up = good

[thick kelp]

the fix shoulda made the number go down if anythin

[trail orbit]

well hey at least the servers being down all day tomorrow i can get my warrior fix in fellowship lol

[shadow ibex]

not much to do tomorrow anyway

[native kite]

we do get all the new changes tomorrow right?

[trail orbit]

ya

[shadow ibex]

i think not giving us m0 on patch day was a mistake

[trail orbit]

everything tomorrow is 11.1. its just only delves and story

[native kite]

i dont get why we get m0 on weekly lockout again, just make us able to spamm m0 on alts for catch up

its otherwise dead content anyway

[shadow ibex]

they made it so every boss drops gear which is nice

[urban field]

is the new delv trinket gunna be in tomorrow?

[shadow ibex]

idk if i'd prefer having it on release and normal drop rate vs all drops but opens with m+

[pseudo crow]

mm0 is not tomorrow ?

[shadow ibex]

no

[rare kite]

is delves actually tomorrow? if so do we get a delve vault for the week after? like chance on energy drink?

[distant jewel]

Wait what, I thought mythic+ 0s were tomorrow?

[shadow ibex]

i'd like to be wrong but was told they arent

[gaunt owl]

its only when the raid is out

[junior lava]

This is what I heard too but others said they were tomorrow

[dim basalt]

I thought they were tmr as well

Pretty sure some guides recommended to start M0 tomorrow to get a champion track trinket or so

Could be wrong though

[sharp wyvern]

lets just look at how they did m0s when there wasnt a heroic week

cause they released them on season start

[junior lava]

I mean it makes sense to

[candid pecan]

is m0 open tommorow? (wednesday for EU) or is that next week with season 2?

[junior lava]

Scroll up

[sharp wyvern]

[candid pecan]

oh its not

[distant jewel]

@candid pecan where do you see that

[sharp wyvern]

we get somthing better than gear
we get a car

[dim basalt]

vroom vroom

[sharp wyvern]

you better get good at it for them to make a car boss

[pseudo crow]

hey ! consumable will be the same ?

[sharp wyvern]

yep prices already going up

[shadow ibex]

i crafted another pair of bracers last night with crit thread

now i got x2 bracers weap and cloak ready

[grand idol]

I just plan to swap my jewelry

[pseudo crow]

someone have a wa for display exec when "Execute with three stacks of Marked for Execution, two stacks of Sudden Death, or to refresh Juggernaut"

[trail orbit]

https://wago.io/9n9GqeQ6-

[pseudo crow]

wow perfect !

[terse plume]

I assume slayer is still the go to for raiding with the ptr stuff more or less finalized?

[minor gust]

for raiding yes

[terse plume]

Sigh ah well another tier of the same flavor lol should be used to this for all war specs at this point

[pseudo crow]

crit is now the main secondary stat ? why ?

[minor gust]

Crit has always been good for arms

[terse plume]

Er it's been crit and haste for ages I thought? And I'd guess probably cause haste has diminishing returns more so then crit

[minor gust]

even better all stats are good for arms

[terse plume]

Also the tier set gives a haste steroid

[minor gust]

dont think to hard about stats just top gear sim

[rare kite]

has been for many years

[thick kelp]

Citrine gems were oversimming due to an issue, we r back at old numbers now

[shadow ibex]

[warm crown]

sims are just made up and not real

[dim basalt]

[gaunt owl]

numbers are fake

the matrix isnt real

[wintry arch]

is it safe to read wowhead guides or should i wait a week?

[gaunt owl]

the updated guide will only come out when patch is live

[wintry arch]

oh gotcha thanks

[gaunt owl]

we might never know with blizzard and last minutes change out of nowhere

[dim basalt]

Man, really a lot of new Arms players here

[hard rock]

are we gonna see more arms than fury in this next season

[dim basalt]

"Where were you when arms was kill"
"Enhancer"

No Arms will always have less players than Fury

[gaunt owl]

if Revvez destroy everybody as Arms

[hard rock]

at high level i mean

[severe haven]

fury population is always large no matter what

[warm crown]

born to dilly dally (fury), forced to lock in (arms)

[dim basalt]

At high level, perhaps

But I dont think there will be a lot of Arms players in M+

[quaint otter]

🫳
🔮

Highly doubt tho

Even if arms is better by far

[gaunt owl]

it wont matter if you arent in a top100 guild anyway

by the time you are on the boss its so w/e

[minor gust]

but im in an aotc prog guild I need to know which spec does the most damage

[gaunt owl]

doing mechanic is the way to kill boss

[quaint otter]

Having good healers is

[gaunt owl]

one day everybody will understand that

[quaint otter]

[gaunt owl]

you will never have healer like in top20 guilds lvl

they are so few

[dim basalt]

Even in top 3 the differences are huge

[quaint otter]

[dim basalt]

rip Zaelia

😦

[minor gust]

so few cuz healing fucking sucks to play for years now

[gaunt owl]

there is a reason they try to poach the healer

healing is all about min / max dmg now anyway

everything else is like a piano sheet

people just have to follow their CD and self sustain as much as possible

[umbral gyro]

hey guys. are there arms Weakauras that I need?

[olive nest]

Yeah one that tells you when mortal strike is available to cast

[pseudo crow]

on the exec rota, why 4. Bladestorm with 2x Executioner's Precision ? i don't understand

[olive nest]

Because it will auto cast mortal strike and consume the buffs

[void bay]

I use luxthos wa package so I can see stuff off cd, and it helps with rotation too.....dont think u need anything though
https://media.wago.io/screenshots/SkBHabbrQ/669fe63c4e9c4c470ac15b5c.gif

[severe haven]

i play both specs with my pvp weakauras lol

covers basic things like demo stacks ss etc

[umbral gyro]

TY

[autumn slate]

Anyone have any raw numbers (percentages) on how much better arms is going to be in m+ next patch?

[olive nest]

Are you asking which one sims higher in aoe?

[autumn slate]

Relative to season 1 (Colossus specifically)

Trying to get myself hyped

[halcyon breach]

You'll do more damage in S2, relative to S1 standards

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/10g479vXesC382k68gw4akUKeuGUodbDho0yhKK6Eh0w/htmlview But here are some numbers that wont necessarily tell you how good we'll actually do in M+, because sims =/= actual performance 👍

(Note the numbers might not be 100% accurate either for ST, as some things are still changing here and there)

[autumn slate]

This is the juice I was looking for, thanks @halcyon breach

[magic canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1304357622866247772/Banezi_chomp.gif

[gaunt owl]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-bite-orange-cat-orange-cat-attack-gif-10142361798712867466

[olive nest]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-wazowski-mike-pog-pog-gif-154717314566640477

[latent moss]

velf superior

[candid pecan]

**Colossus S2 compared to Colossus S1: **I skipped the Arms ability damage reduced by 5%, but roughly, to hype you up:

MS hits 72.71% harder
OP hits 44% harder
Cleave hits 32% harder
Demolish hits 30% harder
new tier set adds another 5-50% OP damage, and when winning streak ends: 2-20% haste/MS/Cleave

[covert drift]

Is slayer > colossus still true?

[dusty depot]

For ST yes

[autumn slate]

Those numbers are insane. I am beyond hyped. Our time is now!

[candid pecan]

for ST and Execute phase, YES

[covert drift]

I'm conflicted. I like the colossus theme and fantasy better, but like the playstyle around execute more

oh well

can't have it all i guess

[terse plume]

from those sims just given it looks like the difference is not enormus though, same for fury vs arms as well

[rare kite]

i mean assuming you're raiding and doing m+ you will play both

[terse plume]

yeah and colossus looks ahead in most aoe sitations atm

but a bit at least

[covert drift]

that's sweet then

[shadow ibex]

slayer aoe is more a suggestion not a real thing

[terse plume]

yep overall if those sims from above pan out to be about what were at, wars looking solid for choices as the differences are not so massive that comfort and preference couldnt take ahead

[shadow ibex]

bladestorm does 0 dmg in aoe so your aoe is reaping strikes or w/e

[covert drift]

bladestorm not doing aoe damage is strange to me

don't fit

good aoe dmg i mean

[terse plume]

its more that alot of arms bs damage is baked into applying dws to everything

[shadow ibex]

nah

cleave does that too

and DW makes up very little damage

[covert drift]

So if those parses are true, we become the low utility but big dik damage class, right? seems fair

[shadow ibex]

BS just doesnt hit hard period. each tick of it is roughly a slam in damage per target hit

[covert drift]

It allways seemed to fit warrior better

not a lot of utility but high damage

[magic canopy]

i might go velf

[shadow ibex]

each tick is like what 150% AP? if that. for context MS is over 600% AP as colossus

[magic canopy]

depends on if there is ANY nelf tek

[shadow ibex]

overpower is 300% AP

[terse plume]

I mean our damage compared to other classes is entirely unknown just looking at our own sims

[shadow ibex]

BS just doesnt hit hard at all

[covert drift]

which is weird

i think they can't get rid of BS because it's such an iconic spell

for so long

[shadow ibex]

its true for all of our abilities with a cooldown

[rare kite]

there's a few things. not like insane tech tho. for racials dwarf will prob be by far the best race for m+ next season

[shadow ibex]

BS ravager roar spear all do very little now

[magic canopy]

i will never

be a short king

[shadow ibex]

dwarf is the shit

[rare kite]

dwarf owns

[shadow ibex]

but xmog is rough

[magic canopy]

i want my armor to not look like shit

[shadow ibex]

probably my least favorite xmog race and i've been tauren + troll

[covert drift]

xmog is the true endgame

can't skip that

[autumn slate]

Just be a tall dwarf and play kul tiran

[magic canopy]

half the reason female nelf and void elf own are becuase they are pretty similar to the human male modal which im pretty sure all armor is designed around

[rare kite]

my armor looks great as a dwarf. i will say most of them look real bad tbf, just voti on a dwarf owns

[shadow ibex]

i want berserking bad but troll xmog situation is fuckin awful

[covert drift]

i wish i could play kul'tiran but the belly ruin most sets

[magic canopy]

im a Kul Tiran IRL i dont need that in game too

[terse plume]

Im the exact opposite

I play human knight in all things

now I can be fat knight

sign me up

XD

[autumn slate]

Thicc boy gang

[shadow ibex]

i actually like KT animations and xmog

[covert drift]

they made the belly too round

[shadow ibex]

but would never play one fuck that versi

[terse plume]

certain sets with kultiran for plate look amazing

[covert drift]

it should have a belly but a flatter one

like strong men

[terse plume]

eh ver is really good later in an expansion

[covert drift]

big belly, but a strong one

the way it is just looks like an average beer belly

[shadow ibex]

i gotta make a good void elf xmog but man i forgot how much i hate elves

all armor looks tiny all weapons are tiny

[covert drift]

Like this, big but not so round

[pseudo crow]

i can't trake martial prowess stacks on wa for "Overpower with Opportunist, rage <80, and <2 stacks of Martial Prowess", can i have help ?

[shadow ibex]

i wish we had a void tier of armor

best we got is nyalotha

[terse plume]

KTs look amazing in the mythic antorus set

one I use the most lol

[covert drift]

it's just that is PLATE bro

the belly WARPS the armor like it's cloth

[shadow ibex]

dwarf gets that too

[terse plume]

eh when wearing the full set the belt and shoulders stick out more

[shadow ibex]

some belts on dwarves also get a x2 size inc

[terse plume]

and nearly all plate sets warp on any model, thats just the nature of how wow does chest armor

[autumn slate]

A lot of the chest pieces that are 3d look great on kul titans. Throw a chainmail tabard underneath and you are set

[covert drift]

I feel like this is what it should have been

If kul tiran were like this i would roll them everytime

[magic canopy]

i do think the beer gut was artistically the better choice

vs buff human guy

gives em a distinct feel

[shadow ibex]

i would agree

if it was a big part of their character

[covert drift]

normal humans are buffed

this conpect is more like strongmen buffed

[shadow ibex]

ike if kul tiras was a fuckin oktoberfest stand in

[covert drift]

Plus look at those fucking forearms bro

there it not even a wrist

lmao

humans are more close to gorillas on azeroth i guess

[shadow ibex]

i wouldnt mind KT if they fixed the warping gear does

but probably lowest prio

happens with troll backs too

back of all plate gets stretched over 3yards because they hunch

[covert drift]

yeh...

that's why i allways rolled human or female orc on horde side

best mog looks

[shadow ibex]

yea fem orc is S tier

so is troll

and panda

[covert drift]

zandalari would be S if not for the toes out allways

[shadow ibex]

feel like i never see zanda ever anymore

[eager sigil]

every druid was one for a while

then they allowed them to swap forms more freely

[tacit crystal]

hi do i play voidelf warrior instead of my nelf

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/eternal-tipping-mlady-fedora-gentle-sir-courtesy-gif-7359016

[eager sigil]

i thought about it too

but cba spending alot of gold

[shadow ibex]

i gotta swap to something im bored of dwarf. if not void elf gnome maybe

[tacit crystal]

why gold

[shadow ibex]

or dragon

[tacit crystal]

to craft everything?

or

[eager sigil]

buy token and swap race

[tacit crystal]

i just have a 636 velf

[eager sigil]

i have a level 1 velf

[shadow ibex]

stoneform is so sexy tho

[eager sigil]

yea its cracked

[shadow ibex]

i actually love it

[rare kite]

you gonna swap to something else in one of the best stoneform seasons?

that's crazy

[shadow ibex]

meh its not mandatory

and variety is spice of life

like i said i might even go gnome just cuz never played it yet

[rare kite]

ofc it's not mandatory. just really nice when there's so many bleeds. tho if you're gonna tank it might be "mandatory"

[tacit crystal]

why is small guy good this m+ season

[eager sigil]

my first warrior back in cata was a gnome

[shadow ibex]

bigger rage cap

[rare kite]

lots of bleeds. stoneform good against bleeds

[shadow ibex]

i played prot so was NE for extra 2% miss chance

[tacit crystal]

i cant want to want to die as prot during keys

[rare kite]

yupp

[shadow ibex]

gearing thru keys as prot

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-funny-gif-21548565

mobs cant move out of demolish if im the tank

[blazing plover]

Weak aura Has been updated!
https://wago.io/NUtHLTKBO

[tacit crystal]

i assume i wont be tanking for most of my keys this season

[rare kite]

prot war damage pretty crazy next season(expect nerfs)

[eager sigil]

i dont mind tanking keys tbh

[tacit crystal]

i do

and they made prot slower

nice bro

[grand idol]

So true.

[mellow ore]

Warrior

[quaint otter]

[mellow ore]

I think

[quaint otter]

Wrong

[regal dragon]

these arm patch notes

[mild hound]

Colossus m+ build staying the same just better in ssn2?

[wintry arch]

Best for raid or m+?

[rare kite]

m+ ofcourse

[wintry arch]

Thank god

[rare kite]

sometimes dwarf is really insane in raid as well. like on fyrakk

[regal dragon]

I'm a human i need to swap

[minor gust]

races arent that big of a deal you dont need to swap

[regal dragon]

but that .1% dps increase

[mellow ore]

Dwarf is BiS. Stay smol boys

[regal dragon]

as long as no gnomes we golden

[nimble yoke]

do we know what the patch notes mean for the overall damage compared to last season?

[mellow ore]

We will

[nimble yoke]

so we don't

[mellow ore]

Sure

[rare kite]

idk exact numbers, but it's big

[steep osprey]

Humongous

[minor gust]

do you even need to know the exact number

[teal fossil]

You get damage from gear

[minor gust]

[nimble yoke]

ah that's a good change then

[mellow ore]

No

[nimble yoke]

yeah to 2 decimal places if possible

[smoky kayak]

There have been a lot of moving parts, including apl and talent build changes, but I wanna say it was ballpark like 15% or so for Arms and closer to 20% for Fury

[nimble yoke]

appreciated! it makes sense that there's a lot going on so we don't have super specific numbers, but that ballpark is exactly what I was looking for

[regal dragon]

im so excited to see Arms do better dmg number wise

[nova marsh]

Guys

Should I play arms next season

[naive sage]

Do you like it

If yes do it

[nova marsh]

Sensible....still waiting for rework

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-panuccis-dog-loyal-pet-gif-4921425

[naive sage]

Get ready for a long wait

[minor gust]

you gonna be waiting a long time

[naive sage]

But the general rule is

It’s a game, it’s meant to be fun, so play what you like except you’re a rwf or high m+ push player

[edgy solstice]

doing my part

[naive sage]

Personally I do not play arms as main anymore for one reason only
I can’t wait 45 min for a pug key anymore

[regal dragon]

its fine arms go brrr next season easy join

[regal socket]

well. is rage still cosmetic?

[summer sinew]

Is m0 available tomorrow for s2?

NA

[regal socket]

no

[rare kite]

eyo not cool man. just casually posting saddest futurama gif

[naive sage]

Average player stuck in wotlk mentality thinks arms is shit and meant for pvp only

[regal dragon]

i actually just got a group of guildies tobset aside Friday nights for M+ pushing

[minor gust]

thats every long time arms player waiting for arms to be fun again

[rare kite]

tru, and just like Fry the developers never show

[summer sinew]

Source ?

[naive sage]

I am talking about pug, guild can often be a good place

[regal dragon]

oh i know, i had the same experience so i formed a group

[regal socket]

my friend told me

only delve tomorrow

[summer sinew]

Makes sense let’s farm s1 dungeons wp blizzard

[naive sage]

You should not define the Voices in your head as “friend”

[mellow ore]

Don’t play ret should be an added rule

[naive sage]

Real

[coral crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

[mellow ore]

Real

[quasi torrent]

source: the voices in my head

[minor gust]

[summer sinew]

W

[silk spade]

source: balls

[quasi torrent]

what did balls do for German police to arrest him

[vagrant hull]

Not going to lie, I was considering switching to fury for M+ season 2 but after the patch notes I think I'll just stay Arms. I enjoy it and seems like it should do just fine in damage

[quasi torrent]

my king

arms is a good bit better than fury in current s2 tuning

[shadow ibex]

no king rules forever

[quasi torrent]

mage

[sage badge]

Arms owns

[quaint otter]

Arms owns

[minor gust]

[glossy tusk]

Orms awns

[vestal isle]

snwo smrA

[gusty nymph]

anyone has a wa to track collossal might?

[quaint otter]

i do

[gusty nymph]

can you share please? 🙂

[quaint otter]

need simple square icon or progress bar?

[gusty nymph]

sqaure would be good

[quaint otter]

ill dm in a sec

[gusty nymph]

i appreciate it 🙂

[shadow ibex]

So close

I need my 66% ms

[quaint otter]

i want a spear colossus viable

[minor gust]

go play it on silken court

[quaint otter]

i fucking did

topped dps meter on pug

ended like 2kk

not even orange parse

[pearl jasper]

am I loosing it or did they change something about blunt instruments next tier?

[shadow ibex]

Kill spear

[quaint otter]

Make Spear Great Again

[minor gust]

I like spear

giga buff that c rit dmg to 50%

hell 100%

to the moon

[quaint otter]

or just make a capstone with cdr...

like it was sl2

[shadow ibex]

And let me have BOTH TORMENTS

[quaint otter]

BALLS TORMENTS

[dire hinge]

Arms owns

[shadow ibex]

Warlademaster

Bladelord

[fierce moon]

Will arms be able to compete against like fire mage, boomie, ele shaman in M+ in 11.1? Wanna main a hybrid but i wanna compete with what seems to be these top specs.

[quaint otter]

No

🫳
🔮

we cant know what numbers will be in like 11.5

11.1.5*

its strong on ptr from what we see

[fierce moon]

dang thats a bummer about not competiting , i get not knowing the numbers

[quaint otter]

I mean depends on what level u play...

Pre 15th arms will own for sure

[silk spade]

🤤

[fierce moon]

why the 15th? of march?

[dire hinge]

Race to World First usually begets some tuning

[fierce moon]

ah i see, so higher level keys(which i dont think we know what range that is) but like 12-14 arms cant compete with those top casters?

[teal fossil]

Way higher

Also is boomie actually broken

They haven’t been good for a minute

[quaint otter]

15th keys i mean

[minor gust]

Key level 15

[quaint otter]

Mythic keystone 15

[fierce moon]

ohhhh

how high of keys we gonna be pushing?

[quaint otter]

No one knows...

[sage badge]

My biggest cleave crit. Can't wait to see it go up tomorrow.

[dire hinge]

rewards stop at +12 now, peak is still gonna be a mystery, maybe 20 again?

[hardy olive]

Arms Owns 😏

[quaint otter]

Guess its no amp?

[sage badge]

Yeah, hitting the 5 target dummies

[quaint otter]

Deez

[shadow ibex]

If there is more than 1 colossus fight

I will be

[minor gust]

best I can do is none

take it or leave it

[quaint otter]

I just load colo every fight since it doesn't suck that much in sims

[dire hinge]

i was doing colossus a little bit on mythic kyveza and it was kinda fun

awful, but fun

[arctic fjord]

trying to understand the conditions for execute. so we never press it, unless any of the three conditions are met? not even as a filler when the only other option is slam?

[teal fossil]

what conditions are you reading right now

[arctic fjord]

11.1 before execute

On wowhead

[minor gust]

you only press execute if you have 3 stacks of marked for execution or you have 2 stacks of Sudden Death or to refresh Juggernaut before it falls off

since this is pre execute phase this means sudden death procs

as Sudden death gives you a free execute

[arctic fjord]

so I press slam as a filler, even if I could use execute, but none of the 3 conditions are met?

[minor gust]

if you are not in execute phase yes

only use a sudden death proc if any one of those 3 conditionals are met

[arctic fjord]

Ok got it. I'm guessing this is because of juggernaut?

[icy mulch]

Isn't it great! That's about the same as the biggest i've gotten, not counting the burn phase of Ingra in Mists. 19 mil. lol

[fresh pier]

is the wowhead talent builds for arms borked?

diff tree or am I tripping?

[arctic fjord]

broken for me too

[minor gust]

yes and no. Sudden death caps at 2 and Marked for execution caps at 3 you dont want to waste those by staying capped

[fresh pier]

lol the trees on wowhead are literally different than the trees in game

[minor gust]

Wait till patch day guys

[fresh pier]

[minor gust]

[arctic fjord]

btw am I supposed to be at 15 stacks of juggernaut before execute? because that's clearly not happening for me

[minor gust]

no its rng

but feel free to enjoy the mini game of how long can you keep it up

[arctic fjord]

ok good. I had to let single stacks fall off sometimes.

[minor gust]

sometimes you will get a billion SD/MFE procs, sometimes you get jack shit

just how it is

[rare kite]

sometimes you will have 15 stacks at 37% and drop them right before execute phase

[arctic fjord]

what a shitty talent

[minor gust]

[shadow ibex]

Smart man

Learning fast

[hard cedar]

Are s1 sparks of omen for crafting going to stop dropping starting tomorrow or when s2 actually starts?

[mellow ore]

I would think stop tomorrow

[knotty orchid]

when is next nerf?

[minor gust]

tomorrow

[shadow ibex]

Now

https://tenor.com/view/entrance-ding-dong-gun-shoot-surprise-gif-18466982

[fierce moon]

Is arms beating out feral in M+?

[tacit crystal]

how much is feral simming in st

[lucid apex]

any chance we are a good PI target for next raid? or is that role dedicated to Enhance or Feral

?

[fierce moon]

I dont know the sim data, not sure where to find it

[tacit crystal]

then idk

[tacit crystal]

maybe in execute with cds otherwise maybe not

[minor gust]

its only good to PI an arms warrior in execute

[lean geode]

Is gcd cap still a thing?

[somber furnace]

Help me. please dm me.

[lean geode]

IFTK + PI + tier would go BRAZY

in execute

[lean geode]

Just ask your question bud

[tacit crystal]

real

90% haste will go crazy

plus haste trinket

[hard cedar]

Why duskweave over dawn?

nvm, i see they're close enough but the vers gives damage reduction

[devout pewter]

Do we have another week in S1 now or is that ending tomorrow including the 2k, 2.5k and aotc achievments?

[lean geode]

I believe you still get this coming week

[serene hollow]

Yes I think all of the achievements are still available?

[devout pewter]

Been looking up and down the internet the last hour or so and haven't found anything substantial about it other than that season 2 starts next week... so thanks.
But previous seasons always kinda had a week or so in between where nothing is going on..

Confusing as f right now

[latent hull]

U can still get those achievements

Only achievements gone tomorrow are rank 1 achieves iirc

[dire hinge]

AotC and whatnot are "before the start of the next season", not "before the end of the season"

[devout pewter]

ah thanks good to know.. so I've got one more week in me to get those ... If I manage lmao

[odd palm]

So as Arms I should try to keep up juggernaut stacks, and if raid has some anti-melee mechanics that drop those, I get grey parses?

[thick kelp]

Yes

Also you need to make sure you highroll so your executes Crit

[edgy solstice]

tariq is what arms should be

that's all

[strange perch]

We won't get a slider to put any strike in line with swing timer

But otherwise cool concept, only gutted by latency delays

[lunar remnant]

Damn I have the week off too, ofc season 2 can’t line up 🙄

[devout pewter]

Have the same issue, my vacation just endet, didn't manage to line it up haha
Time to run behind the rest again!

[simple wren]

I heard that the best way to gear first week of season is doing delves over m+?

[golden hinge]

Depending on your current gear, delves will bring zero value add

[eager sigil]

other than one of your best trinkets

[golden hinge]

sure

[simple wren]

thanks for that nice overview, @golden hinge

[sacred zodiac]

warr has a chase delve trinket?

[thick kelp]

2 of them even

[sacred zodiac]

hell yea

[halcyon breach]

Spongie you must carry me through delves

[sacred zodiac]

yet you do not carry me through lethal company curious?

[halcyon breach]

You have never asked me to play this game, I don't even know what it is actually?

[sacred zodiac]

wrong

[hollow plover]

time to delve as arms

lads did arms prefer crit, haste or equal in pure ST in 11.0.7?

i dont remember

[eager sigil]

yea

[dawn prairie]

i will be practicing arms in delves i got fury mastered

[hollow plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208704820203233280/1285658888087142402/spinningretard.gif

[eager sigil]

immersive bladestorm

[fresh spire]

2 of the delve trinkets compete with heroic eye

[swift crown]

He lied as naturally as he breathed

[rare kite]

Kamelåså

[halcyon breach]

Not once in my life have I ever told a lie

[tacit crystal]

balls

[alpine radish]

WhatsApp will be the best race for execute Phase? Troll or gnome?

[magic canopy]

explode posthaste

Delve trinkys in my kitchen

nonsense

(i will be farming the delv trinkets as they go to 619 which is basically cap for Heroic trinkets anyway til we finish upgrading every slot to 619 equiv)

[thick kelp]

619?

[magic canopy]

max level delv trinkets drop on champion track which is normal gear

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/rey-mysterio-619-randy-orton-wwe-smack-down-gif-17726052570679791944

[magic canopy]

so you can farm 2/6 hero track from M+ to upgrade it for free

[eager sigil]

the 619 equivalent not 619

[magic canopy]

is that a dog ass

[eager sigil]

[magic canopy]

oh its his head

he is turned

[icy mulch]

That's a cute floof pupper!

[tacit crystal]

he is sitting on a chair staring outside

[eager sigil]

protecting you

[magic canopy]

best part of my job is petting animals

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-pet-dogs-fur-babies-happy-gif-18188733

[magic canopy]

yuh

[tacit crystal]

guys there is no way im farming m+ for trinkets right

[icy mulch]

For the start, yup. For the ilvl

[tacit crystal]

zzz

[icy mulch]

Farming delves is the real zzz

[magic canopy]

gotta do it on 2 guys week 1 at least

[silk spade]

this gave me a stroke

thank you madox!

[tacit crystal]

yeah no chance

[tacit crystal]

real

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-meme-gif-23342140

[tacit crystal]

guys who is ready to do delves

surely we start hording keys today

[icy mulch]

M+ is not till next week

[magic canopy]

im gonna do all the quests

gotta get my rep up with the cartels

[icy mulch]

Delve keys, uh.... I doubt you hoard em.

Get them new wheels.

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/monka-steer-pepe-pepe-the-frog-gif-19881925

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-car-little-girl-rock-on-drifting-slide-gif-17805774

[silk spade]

can't wait to farm 1000000 delve keys

[tacit crystal]

didnt we hoard keys on early release