Don’t knowingly bug abuse
#arms
olive nest
placid slate
leaden jasper
is there like a soft crit cap or whatever. with lantern i reach around 36% crit during burst
is that too much
- recklessness
quaint otter
what ilvl r u
leaden jasper
615
quaint otter
get bigger
teal fossil
Follow the sim
leaden jasper
okok
leaden jasper
its not even on bloodmallter
quaint otter
yes cuz its 606 max
quaint otter
lol the deck is 577 max
u can abuse it with radiance embelli btw
have a juicy 3k+ proc
did it on my shaman until i got a 626 trink
or vivacity
whats its called i dont remember
leaden jasper
is it any better than my setup u think ?
leaden jasper
whats its called i dont remember
vivacity ye
quaint otter
maybe a bit but it doesnt matter u need to up ur ilvl
carmine ginkgo
So, just played my first Colossus key of the season, noticed that SS, Demo and warbreaker didn't really want to line up together. Is that still something that happens often with players more experienced with the build?
teal fossil
Yeah it happens
rancid solstice
yes cuz its 606 max
619 is max
quaint otter
619 is max
if ure lucky enough
olive nest
glossy tusk
Can they nerf already, this 0.1% chance of dodging nerf hope is killing me
naive breach
monkaS
gaunt owl
or maybe we are first and we just dont know it yet
quaint otter
did they kill enhancer now
windstrike buffed 50% 
minor gust
So, just played my first Colossus key of the season, noticed that SS, Demo and w...
In AOE they should always line up. ST is a different story
tacit crystal
or maybe we are first and we just dont know it yet
can you leak arms execute rotation
is it just play for ep
and spam execute
gaunt owl
smashing keyboard
minor gust
Why you asking the retired guy
gaunt owl
til stuff dies
tacit crystal
bc retired is on sim duty
minor gust
11.1 is back to normal execute rotation
minor gust
Yes DF rotation exe exe exe/op ms
minor gust
Only side thing Krispy said is if you have high stacks of tier you wanna op a lil more to force a proc
lean geode
dim basalt
Only side thing Krispy said is if you have high stacks of tier you wanna op a li...
Was at 8 tho right
minor gust
I don't remember the number 7 or 8
lean geode
Looks like the 8 stack condition isn't in the APL anymore
dim basalt
Hm
lean geode
It was 8 before yeah
dim basalt
APL is so much easier to read in VSCode jesus
lean geode
what does +=/ mean
Doesn't really mean anything, it's just the simc apl syntax
actions.slayer_execute+=/overpower,if=rage<=85&buff.martial_prowess.stack<2&buff.opportunist.up&talent.opportunist
translates to:
"In slayer spec, in execute range, press overpower [in this priority relative to the other lines, here it's the top priority] when you have <=85 AND have <2 martial prowess stacks AND have the opportunist buff"
tacit crystal
ah
lean geode
APL is so much easier to read in VSCode jesus
That's my manual transcription of the APL into the WoWAnalyzer APLCheck, idk if there's syntax highlighting in vsc for the raw simc conditions
gaunt owl
APL is so much easier to read in VSCode jesus
if you toy with the APL it will be easier to read for you
dim basalt
if you toy with the APL it will be easier to read for you
Ye ik
dim basalt
Yeah
minor gust
I haven't tried to read the APL and I never will
tacit crystal
but rest isnt hard
minor gust
That's what other people are for
thick kelp
Only side thing Krispy said is if you have high stacks of tier you wanna op a li...
we culled that
it was barely noticeable in the end
for more brain power usage
gaunt owl
also dont know what the syntax is with random +=/
thats just to start each line pretty much
first one dont have the +
tacit crystal
ah
shadow ibex
fuck opportunist
lean geode
I like opportunist 
lean geode
we culled that
Walhe why would you change the APL after I already spent the time updating wowa
Do you hate me personally
thick kelp
Walhe why would you change the APL after I already spent the time updating wowa
sorry not sorry
blame blizzard
lean geode
I will
teal fossil
The apl is imported correctly when I actually played the game
Whether they interpret it correctly is up for debate
But it is much easier to read tho
minor gust
we culled that
Good to know
proper coyote
Whether they interpret it correctly is up for debate
😦
teal fossil
I don’t mean that in a rude way
It’s just that sometimes there are jank to it
Or it’s the user error
proper coyote
Lol I know
lean geode
Idk I was messing with ret on PTR and hekili shit its pants because of something going on with final verdict vs templars verdict
Like it didn't recognize that final verdict was a spell
proper coyote
Idk I was messing with ret on PTR and hekili shit its pants because of something...
Probably because you were on ptr
lean geode
It worked fine when I changed the apl condition to check for templars verdict (even though I had final verdict specced) so idk
proper coyote
I'd be surprised if any spec worked on PTR using the live version
lean geode
I haven't looked at the hekili source code but seems moderately cursed under the hood
proper coyote
It is
lean geode
I'd be surprised if any spec worked on PTR using the live version
I was using the PTR version I think
proper coyote
in the last couple days?
lean geode
This was like last week I think idr
proper coyote
We only pushed a PTR release like 3 days ago
And I haven't finished bug checking it yet
lean geode
It was probably before then
I'm not fussed or anything, I figure things will largely be sorted by patch day
proper coyote
Yeah so the thing is if anything about a spec changes, the code is trying to run on talents/abilities/spellIDs that don't exist anymore ;P
It will be
lean geode
And then blizzard will do tuning and APLs will change again 🙃
proper coyote
APLs dont matter
thats a 5 second fix
It's recoding every spec to function properly
proper coyote
yes, with some translation
Which is fun when every spec writer uses slightly different syntax/methodology 🙂
lean geode
Me when fury used to be split out into combinations of slayer/thane and AM/RA but now it's just one big blob
While arms is still split out
proper coyote
But the big part is "teaching" the addon how a spec works.
Patch note: New talent, ability X now applies buff Y
We now need to defined that talent and aura in the addon, and code the ability handler to apply it under the proper conditions
That's what takes time and effort. If all that is done correctly, any APL is theoretically plug and play
lean geode
Is it able to pull aura information in real time?
I know wowa has some jank bc it reads logs but a lot of stuff just isn't logged
proper coyote
yes it uses blizzard API and logs to read the real gamestate
lean geode
Like ravager is an aura but it's just not logged for some reason
proper coyote
some things are "fake", but most of it is grabbing the actual real gamestate
lean geode
Also really jank shit like sudden death triggering a buff refresh event but not extending the duration]
So you can't really check a buff's duration at any given point in time, you have to guesstimate
fluid ocean
do we use execute whenever it procs for free and when we in execute phase how do fill it in the rotation?
clever wave
yo since we dont have Leathal Blows anymore do we like ever cast MS during execute phase now in m+ or nah? (PTR)
minor gust
MS on cd
clever wave
gotcha
lean geode
yo since we dont have Leathal Blows anymore do we like ever cast MS during execu...
Assuming you mean 11.1 colossus M+ spec, yes with 2xEP
lean geode
Kind of
proper coyote
So you can't really check a buff's duration at any given point in time, you have...
Well, we grab the actual aura itself multiple times a second. So every time recommendations are regenerated, we would start fresh with the actual duration at that exact millesecond no matter what the game did. Anyways, all that to say yeah it is cursed, but been fun to work with. I expect both warrior dps specs to work better with it in 11.1 due to the reckless abandon changes, far simpler code.
lean geode
There's a decent chance you'll rage starve if you blindly exe exe OP MS
lean geode
Yeah in col M+ spec*
lean geode
Well, we grab the actual aura itself multiple times a second. So every time reco...
RA changes have me living in actual hell at the thought of updating WoWA
So I'm just not doing it yet 
minor gust
Back to normal execute rotation so be happy now Brew
proper coyote
RA changes have me living in actual hell at the thought of updating WoWA
oh really? It was a huge simplification for us.
No more tracking fake buffs
olive nest
Fantastic, I like the exe exe op ms loop very much
minor gust
It's a very nice rythm
lean geode
oh really? It was a huge simplification for us.
What I was doing previously was basically checking if you had the CB/BB buff at the time you pressed rampage (excluding if you were rampaging to refresh enrage) - fury doesn't currently use the same APL check that arms does, but rather a collection of separate modules that individually check for important parts of the rotation
So I'm either gonna have to completely overhaul it to use an APL check, which is a big pain, or massage all the APL conditions to be nicely handled by the existing CB/BB modules
shadow ibex
Fantastic, I like the exe exe op ms loop very much
its impossible to afford
u need FB as colossus
honestly may as well get bloodsurge too
proper coyote
What I was doing previously was basically checking if you had the CB/BB buff at ...
I could possibly help out, hit me up in DMs sometime
lean geode
o7 tbh I'm waiting for tuning bc there's a good chance the APL gets changed again but we'll see
Surely they don't gut both specs 
proper coyote
I'm just waiting for them to rework enhance 4 more times before the patch launch
or remove/add arcane nether precision double dipping a few more times
floral ledge
guys can someone tell me how to optimise opportunist talents car i clearly don't even track it i just press overpower on cd
minor gust
Opportunist priority is in the wowhead guide
floral ledge
do u guys have a weekauras or something ?
lean geode
You might need to modify it a bit
Opportunist is a real stinker because the buff doesn't appear until like half a second after the tactician proc
dusty loom
the buff is next week right?
lean geode
modify it ?
I mean that wa will have all the necessary trigger logic, I just meant you might need to move/resize/add glow conditions or whatever. I don't remember what it does by default but it's probably just an icon
lean geode
the buff is next week right?
Yes, then nerfed the week after 🙂
dusty loom
good so we can all play fury again
floral ledge
I mean that wa will have all the necessary trigger logic, I just meant you might...
ok thanks baby
lean geode
dim basalt
good so we can all play fury again
Imagine being excited about playing fury
slow saddle
Arms still arent shittin on other of the best specs
wind flicker
Well well well
dim basalt
Arms still arent shittin on other of the best specs
Despite simming fairly high in comparison to other specs lmao
Some are really down bad
dim basalt
What does BM sim currently
slow saddle
Dno
charred brook
12
slow saddle
But ret and hunter sandbag sims
dim basalt
Nah hunters dont sandbag
astral yarrow
just have to pay for sims cause azor is scum 🤡
slow saddle
Not on purpose
dim basalt
That one BM sim is at 2.3M at 678
That does not sound right
I lowkey miss playing SV
steep osprey
The fuck is Will SMith doing in Xqc's stream
steep osprey
Not over yet I think
minor gust
we just saw some M+ tuning so might see some today
rare kite
just means they will nuke arms even harder
untold trench
They will give week1, before the content is even out, to enjoy power
then snatch it away
Maximise hurt
sage badge
Arms owns
minor gust
visual folio
can someone give me a ptr raid and a m+ talent build 🙂
junior quail
what do you guys think about the new warrior talent tree, not being able to get both talents for thunderous roar kinda sucks
probably doesnt matter that much tho
dim basalt
what do you guys think about the new warrior talent tree, not being able to get ...
But you can?
minor gust
Troar isnt as strong anymore why would you want both
junior quail
well depends u can have them but u gotta drop something from the 2nd to last row
junior quail
Troar isnt as strong anymore why would you want both
yea either 2 troar or 1 point int othe avatar thingies depending on build
minor gust
its just a tuning thing theres not much to talk about you can still take both uproar talents whenever u want
wooden lava
I saw this guy in a key take off his neck right before the dungeon started and re-equip it to adjust stats
Does anyone know more about it?
grand idol
Food maybe? Making a different stat "most"?
daring heron
yea i have a high crit set that unequips some pieces so i can guarantee crit from beledar's bounty food buff
probably what he did
magic canopy
yuh
wooden lava
Oh
serene hollow
seems best in slots is now put on cd when you use a trinket first?
rare kite
seems best in slots is now put on cd when you use a trinket first?
yeah shit sucks
fresh spire
yeah shit sucks
its how its coded on sims at least so nothing changes at least number wise but ofc in keys where people been stacking cds just makes it a little more sus
good job we use 2 passive trinkets 😉
errant niche
What is it that gives me free resets of cleave?
halcyon breach
What is it that gives me free resets of cleave?
Exhilarating blows
sage badge
spring rune
working on M Court, seeing from Lorrgs that most send bladestorm at like 3-5s in, before the bosses are necessarily stacked well.
Is this cause it lines it up better for later charges and burn phases? Fury seems to wait longer before they pop CDs
slow badger
i know last minute balance changes will happen
but as it currently stands how is arms looking compared to fury raid wise for 11.1?
never been a fan of fury
errant niche
What does sweeping strikes do to cleave?
mint shell
cleaves slam it procs if u have it talented
sage badge
Also note, that raid fights and mechanics dictate how strong a spec can be. ie. Fury can perform better on x fight, arms does better in y fight etc.
Sims aren't necessarily the end all be all.
But, I wouldn't know.. I don't raid anymore.
coral crescent
Q.E.D., Arms owns
sage badge
brave marsh
Is Arms expected to over-take fury for M+ next season?
fresh spire
<a:ExcitedBlushette:932414006679973888>
arms owns
as for m+, can go either way, both are strong at what they do
are they likely going to be meta? probs not.
sage badge
Be the meta. 
fresh spire
i can only use my utility so much!
sage badge
is my utility
fresh spire
me with my one storm bolt and shock wave and thne you got monster gigachad aug with its like 15 types of cc dispels roots knockups knockbacks interupts
sage badge
That's a good one (saving).
quaint otter
<:Cleave:592472222514282527> is my utility
🙏
hexed parrot
next week 11.1 releases and the changes are live like MS, OP, EXE buffs right?
brave marsh
Nice to finally see some chunky warrior buffs. hope it doesn't get nerfed
finite wasp
what can we doom about next
finite wasp
we need to doom about something else or i will have an existential crisis
quaint otter
We sim like 2m on reset
Godzilla numbers...
fresh spire
Tbh we should keep dooming. Keep up the illusion warrior bad
quaint otter
^^^^
fresh spire
void bay
Tbh we should keep dooming. Keep up the illusion warrior bad
Tbh we should keep dooming. Keep up the illusionfacts warrior bad
mellow ore
Make warrior
snow flame
No need for CC when mobs are already dead
Utility is an illusion
Most of the time tanks and healers have enough
brave marsh
Remember, Remember the foul Shadowlands season 1. Where Warrior was truly, undisputed, the WORST. GARBAGE. TRASH class in the entire game
latent hull
Will we get more buffs guys
latent hull
Remember, Remember the foul Shadowlands season 1. Where Warrior was truly, undis...
Wasnt that bad
snow flame
Will we get more buffs guys
No if anything nerfed
latent hull
😠
Its not even S tier
Enh has been s tier since launch n nothin has nerfed it
Warrior was good for 5s of raid fight when there were adds n got biggest nerf hammer
Boohoo blizzard
Cant stand warrior doing top dps on adds n then get smashed on st
latent hull
What if they just buffed adds instead of nerf warrior
Big brain
nova marsh
What if they just buffed adds instead of nerf warrior
Buff adds to be bullet sponges so tanky they have to buff warrior
No wait
Buff the raid so much they have to buff evrey spec
TRUE BIG BRAIN
rare kite
Its not even S tier
prob is S tier in raid
latent hull
prob is S tier in raid
From my experience whenever arms is good in raid its not nerfed as much as fury
I remember it being good s2 shadowlands
And not being butchered
nova marsh
Yes but you see
If slayer is good (lmao it won't be for long) arms will catch more strays
Even if fury is worse
Bevause blizzard hates us non magic users vanilla boys
We are the most vanilla class in the entire game
latent hull
Same gameplay from 2004 spam ms on cd
visual folio
isn't this raid big on split cleave or something
could be that arms patchwerk sim won't translate to high enough bar on wclogs to be gutted
finite wasp
If we dont do good in raid when live comes out i think it improves our chances of dodging nerfs for m+
but wishful thinking bc arms might be rlly fucking strong in raid soon
silk spade
rest in piss transmitter
tacit crystal
rest in piss transmitter
hi
silk spade
alo
fresh spire
They shot the delve trinket
magic canopy
yuh
fresh spire
.8% behind house of cards now instead of being around same
😦
Still good trinket none the kess
magic canopy
mole people sit down
rare kite
They shot the delve trinket
the energy drink?
static grove
Boys I’m reaching out in need of help. Battle net has gone awoll on me, I’ve done every trick on the net and every video. Uninstalled bnet but now won’t download past 5%. Any tech gurus out there? Otherwise this is probably it 🫡
magic canopy
if you are stuck in an initilizxation loop shut down your computer and restart it in safe mode with network turned on
otherwise idk
tacit crystal
madox how bad was my input
magic canopy
madox how bad was my input
what
tacit crystal
do you have enough storage to download what you want
^
terse osprey
I sure hope they adjust the new animations they gave arms to somethin better
charred brook
I sure hope they add a new hero spec called battle mage and I can wear armor and conjure battle axes and shi
That would be cool
terse osprey
Possible future class/spec
tacit crystal
me when surv
magic canopy
idk ive never had storage issues
tacit crystal
bomba
charred brook
Ur not a lancer
tacit crystal
ya
hardy olive
Yes but expect nerfs
I don’t think so and I hope not , cause damage is the only thing we do 😂
hexed canopy
If I raid next week will i still get vault at wednesday the 3rd march, when new season start
quaint otter
Guys r we owning
always
hardy olive
tacit crystal
If I raid next week will i still get vault at wednesday the 3rd march, when new ...
will be from current season
minor gust
If I raid next week will i still get vault at wednesday the 3rd march, when new ...
you will get a vault but it will still be season 1 gear
tacit crystal
ya
hexed canopy
Yes obv. Thanks for answer!
tacit crystal
you will get a vault but it will still be season 1 gear
do tou think i send 5 crafted items on my shaman
or
try to get 2 items before from vault
rare kite
I don’t think so and I hope not , cause damage is the only thing we do 😂
if you do not think so, you are extremely naive
minor gust
full send crafts dont rely on vault
minor gust
Dont think it really matters
I would send now get the power and grind out the character
rare kite
prices are prob lower now
tacit crystal
also surely just having 2 weapons for rogue is enough to do keys at start
jaunty slate
Dont make the mistakes that slayer fury did
sandbag the shit out of the meters so you don't get giga nerfed
minor gust
I think you can use a nondagger on offhand
you can equip a non dagger offhand but its really really really bad to do so
silk spade
I know you get less poison procs but I'm not sure how bad it is numerically
ideally you use 2 daggers yeah
dagger offhand for outlaw is marginally better
minor gust
we actually had this conversation in our guild not to long ago because found a sub rogue in the wild using a fist weapon offhand
and this is what our 1 trick sub rogue said
hardy olive
if you do not think so, you are extremely naive
We‘ll have to hold hands and keep it under the table then🤫
minor gust
also said that equiping a gray dagger is better than a slow offhand weapon
silk spade
rare kite
prices are going up
yeah exactly, i think they will go up even more next week
shadow ibex
no more hasted energy drink
fossil thistle
I seemed to have lost the link to the 11.1 sims, can anyone post it again 😮
shadow ibex
avowed is kinda good
any game that takes me 2-3 seconds to swing a great hammer is a good game
shadow ibex
is this spatial rift shit new
no way void elf has had this for years and i didnt know
severe haven
no way void elf has had this for years and i didnt know
they did
quasi torrent
they did
severe haven
but it got giga buffed this season
quasi torrent
they just made it faster
severe haven
it is actually a very good racial now
quasi torrent
it was kinda snail before
shadow ibex
i didnt expect a use twice to do this ability to exist before DF
i didnt know that tech was even floating around
quasi torrent
i didnt expect a use twice to do this ability to exist before DF
u heard of alter time before
silk spade
lol
severe haven
and u went back after like 5
you can even cancelaura it to stay where u are
shadow ibex
ive never read a blue tooltip i just assumed alter time was cast and like 5-6 seconds later the mage went back to that spot/buffs/used abilities
rare kite
if you could not cancel or activate 2nd part of alter time it would not be nearly as broken as it is now
quaint otter
any game that takes me 2-3 seconds to swing a great hammer is a good game
Its so bruh
Same as elden ring
No impact from big weapon
boreal igloo
1st time arms, what do i need to track? oppo prio over everything, ME at 3 stacks, anything else?
quaint otter
Keep rend up
boreal igloo
raid wise, is it even worth clapping to apply rend or is the damage so minimal on adds?
quaint otter
Yep if they live at least 10 seconds which is rare
shadow ibex
Its so bruh
i felt impact of ultra weapons in ER i think it was a lil too easy to stance break bosses tbh
quaint otter
i felt impact of ultra weapons in ER i think it was a lil too easy to stance bre...
Yeah on the first part of game
Starting from maliketh bosses become weeb shit with endless jumping and stuff
Therefore quick weapon like double blade is ten times better
shadow ibex
nah man i went all in with greatsword i was having a blast
i never stance broke malekith ill admit that
i think malekith and beast were only two bosses i didnt stance break
godfrey mellania everyone else was getting it
quaint otter
Played with gargoyle axe was falling asleep
shadow ibex
i swapped between greatsword and the duelist greataxe
quaint otter
Cuz i needed to wait that exact pattern that wont punish me
shadow ibex
depending on fashion feels
quaint otter
And the damage is so low even tho i have some buffs for heavy hits
shadow ibex
i wanna start a new run and try darkmoon or malekith sword i never done anything faith/int ever in a souls game
always big str
shadow ibex
i might try quality and duel wield
rare kite
And the damage is so low even tho i have some buffs for heavy hits
need a good ash of war, then the damage is great
quaint otter
need a good ash of war, then the damage is great
Yeah thats a second thing i hate bout elden ring
shadow ibex
i might try godfrey axe run since it has super unique heavy attacks and ash of war
the moveset is cursed
and it scales like shit
rare kite
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Ash+of+War:+Giant+Hunt insane on greatsword
shadow ibex
yea giant hunt or lion claw
lion claw and 1/2 heavy attacks is a stagger on like 99% of bosses
quaint otter
Lion claw is that flip
shadow ibex
giant hunt is the same way
yea
u have armor on the flip. it seems bad at first but when u realize oh i cant be interruipted
rare kite
giant hunt for more damage and equal stagger. lion claw for trading
rare kite
you can get interrupted in giant hunt, but giant hunt has piercing damage
shadow ibex
so u get a free super charged heavy
quaint otter
The only moment i had actually huge fun with great weapons was double boss before radahn
shadow ibex
lion claw was a game changer
poise dmg period vs bosses was for me
when i realized i had to build up this invisable meter to make ultra sized weapons work it was like playing doom and realizing u gotta swap weapons every second
or u will just get fucked
dire hinge
playing hammer on Monster Hunter Wilds then coming back to colossus 
strange perch
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Ash+of+War:+Giant+Hunt insane on greatswor...
ah yes Warrior class fantasy that will never be in WoW.
fossil thistle
playing hammer on Monster Hunter Wilds then coming back to colossus <:sad_cat:12...
Longsword user 🫡
strange perch
Based Claymore enjoyers rise up!
rare kite
playing hammer on Monster Hunter Wilds then coming back to colossus <:sad_cat:12...
i played gunlance in the beta. holy moly the glowup on that weapon from worlds is crazy
devout pewter
greatsword enjoyer here, felt like nothing changed 😄 But I'm also a complete noob at the game and probably not the type of player for that game 😄
balmy kindle
Wow holy been on KCD 2, glad to see arms getting BIG buffs
lean geode
Unlikely for arms but maybe for fury
ivory remnant
is the embelishments changing for arms next season?
strange perch
BEST IN SLOTS
shadow ibex
the dmg is still mega low. hit a dummy for 4 minutes and it did 1mil dam
it also does have a duration despite what it says. it can fall off
in theory i guess since it is long but could happen if boss leaves
rare kite
it also does have a duration despite what it says. it can fall off
only has a duration on target dummies
shadow ibex
doin like sidearm dam
fossil thistle
the dmg is still mega low. hit a dummy for 4 minutes and it did 1mil dam
Just thinking if it’s like a 6-7m fight, early prog kinda thing, it’s a free 5-6k dps (kinda minuscule tbh)
PvP weapon confirmed rogues can’t restealth 😎
fringe moon
The weapon doesn’t say unique?
minor gust
why would u need a 2nd one when BIS exists
tacit crystal
why would u need a 2nd one when BIS exists
surely 2x of those is better than bis
esp during prog
stone marsh
the dmg is still mega low. hit a dummy for 4 minutes and it did 1mil dam
Does it apply to AoE attacks?
Or with something like sweeping strikes
thick kelp
With Capital Punisher getting 100% buffed, think it’ll be the better option?
Its still a good chunk behind BIS
fervent glen
F's in chat boys, 339 pulls on mythic silken court, got it to .6% today on the last pull...and today was last raid of the season for us 😦
dim basalt
300+ is a lot
slow saddle
So sad
fervent glen
that might have been counting resets and such too, but yea it was alota nights lol
slow saddle
What killed ya?
dim basalt
Our kill was on the exact 200th pull
slow saddle
Rot or just mistakesied
fervent glen
mistakies on the very last dispell and enrage going off (since like...3 were dead i think?)
slow saddle
Coz legit if raid team wears healing gems
dim basalt
Enrage? lol
dim basalt
We had one death and killed it before the 2nd damage amp in P3
Getting to enrage is crazy
I think theres 3 dmg amps before the enrage?
fervent glen
too many healers i think? and i belive a stupid death early
thick kelp
were u like 7 healing the boss or
dim basalt
4 healing is fine
fervent glen
we WERE doing 5 for far too long, swapped to 4 toward the end and progress got alot smoother
just too late to get the muscle memory down i guess
dim basalt
Choreo boss
tbf we progressed pretty quickly early on
First raid night we got to 1st intermission already
But then we had a super long break and basically had to start from scratch again
slow saddle
But i also played in guilds where ppl parsed grey. A lot of ppl
Does make enrage real
dim basalt
And I thought we were bad with some low purples
quaint aspen
hi, no nerf yet?
viral locust
Unlikely for arms but maybe for fury
Probably will be bis at end game gear levels and you have enough haste/crit, it's got haste and you still want a certain level of mastery when your hitting drs on haste/crit
lunar remnant
Can I take slam off my bar if I’m using cleave?
thick kelp
no
lunar remnant
Shit feels booty to press
thick kelp
yep
swift crown
Coz legit if raid team wears healing gems
Legitimately you're better off adding a healer than running healing gems
And it's not close
slow saddle
Dno man gems makes sure u are topped. Seems strong
eager sigil
healers do the same
steep osprey
Lmao
fresh spire
astral rock
is there a ptr talent build that seems to be the go 2?
slow saddle
healers do the same
U must have other healers than me
floral ledge
hi guys, what will be the embelisshement for s2 ? like the same one 80% crit abov health ?
so i can prebuy comp
before the price goes up
if someone could tell me pls
sacred zodiac
ye probably
should also prep for crafting a 2h if you get unlucky w/ myth 2h drops
they might still randomly tune embels last minute, happened in the fyrakk tier so
quasi torrent
fyrakkus
sacred zodiac
the funny spreadsheet has arms wearing 1 dawn 1 dusk idk why they do that
@astral yarrow
provider of lore
weak rain
to maintain balance
astral yarrow
its just the best setup with that current gear. Its more so a matter of simming whether which combination is better for you currently
sacred zodiac
ok any combo works then ye
tyvm provider of loremen
did you decide on a build for tonight
astral yarrow
yessir
sacred zodiac
surely its coc dd @swift crown
sacred zodiac
idk anything on shadow looks nuts
astral yarrow
I also want to do Pconc
Yeah, shadow is just giga broken
Paladin LS looks banger as well
sacred zodiac
what do you do with paladin
astral yarrow
but having played LS for every iteration of settlers so far, sort makes me want to try playing something tanky
sacred zodiac
i thought its just weird esoteric shit
sacred zodiac
but having played LS for every iteration of settlers so far, sort makes me want ...
i am immune to this problem as i have not played ls (i played it until 2/4 voidstones in the pohx rerun)
astral yarrow
lots of auras and then 4 flex ascendancy points depending on build specifics like flask effect if you go MB route
LS is just so much fun
sacred zodiac
ya it was really solid
my character stalled cause i couldnt get a decent crit claw
astral yarrow
sacred zodiac
this is completely solved by clicking blind prophet lol
astral yarrow
Yep. Prophet is just such a safe play
sacred zodiac
tbf u need to kinda rush to t10 dig
astral yarrow
and i doubt i have time for 2 builds
sacred zodiac
and somehow get a vessel on the way there
astral yarrow
you'll have a vessel by there most likely
sacred zodiac
idk variance on that shit is insane
astral yarrow
yeah i guess
sacred zodiac
i think i killed fire void stone guy before i got a vessel
astral yarrow
always feel like im swimming in them and then using like 5
sacred zodiac
ok let me have one if i dont get one by then please
astral yarrow
sure
swift crown
but having played LS for every iteration of settlers so far, sort makes me want ...
Full convert to Fire is pretty achievable on Scav if you're interested in that
elfin lily
hey, anyone have prio skills list in rotation for arms? Want to try arms instead of whole playing as fury
swift crown
Full convert to Fire is pretty achievable on Scav if you're interested in that
Endu charge stacking also gets very tanky
median scroll
Any Arakali Toxic Rain enjoyers
knotty creek
hey, anyone have prio skills list in rotation for arms? Want to try arms instead...
Doesn’t wow head or any of those places got guides
astral yarrow
Full convert to Fire is pretty achievable on Scav if you're interested in that
Yeah i also considered scavenger something, but its mostly caster stuf and the cataclone thing for commander looks giga breezy
astral yarrow
Im a Goratha stan ngl
astral yarrow
Critcake has plenty of twitch vods and youtube videos of ptr keys, so check him out
hunk of a man
quasi torrent
worse than col
quaint aspen
ye, always do. he has mostly colossus
shadow ibex
Slayer needs bs buff to be playable aoe imo
shadow ibex
Maybe slayer strike gets dmg amp per target hit so it doesn't affect st would help
quaint otter
Slayer needs bs buff to be playable aoe imo
This
astral yarrow
made blood mage somewhat playable ..
Goratha bait is never bait
fresh spire
Imjungron
I'm going the mana arrow thing
Looks like it's gonns be squishy start 😄
sacred zodiac
i dont think that build is real unless ur like omega gamer whos done with campaign in 3 hours
indigon will be 2 gorillion div at the start
floral ledge
what's the best talent for overall dps as war arms ?
faint harness
fresh spire
indigon will be 2 gorillion div at the start
Functions pretty well without indgeon. Just when you get it build becomes a nuclear bomb. But until then it seems pretty ok
Just needs a fuck ton of alt/trans for rolling some basic jewels
sacred zodiac
reasonable
fresh spire
sacred zodiac
idk fucking about with mana costs and values for the loop to work just sounds so stressful
fresh spire
Yeh its my first time trying it
I've always played melee or poison builds
So having a try at something fresh
I'm used to playing strength stacking builds like volcanic/mc
So curious how dex is
steep osprey
So curious how dex is
are you talking about new Poe league
dreamy spire
are there already some "to go" builds for single target? Do we go for Colossus now?
olive nest
fair topaz
Do we always buff brutal finish MS with 2 overpowers and 2 executes or just straight up send it?
slow saddle
Yyp
Well imma sandbag 100%
But our old tier with the new dmg to ms is not bad
So we are prob to strong early
sage badge
slow saddle
I vote we all play fury, in an attempt to not give em any arms data
dim basalt
S1 really traumatized you all huh
vast helm
we good ?
empty pike
shadow ibex
S1 really traumatized you all huh
Every season since bfa started
dim basalt
Damn Im about to become traumatized too
icy mulch
Damn Im about to become traumatized too
dim basalt
I think the last time I played some kind of "meta" spec was DF S3 BM
And before that prob BfA S1 Disc
icy mulch
Warrior still won't be meta.
icy mulch
Doubtful
dim basalt
It all comes down to the patterns of bosses
icy mulch
We might be tops for the 2 target boss. A lot of the bosses have a lot of spread out adds, etc.
icy mulch
Mug'zee
dim basalt
Does Mugzee really count as an add fight tho
icy mulch
That crazy one with the trash [piles is spread all over.
You have to kill the elementals before they kill the raid.
icy mulch
That's why I said it was spread out and not that good of a fight for Warrior.
dim basalt
And on the junk boss you will just collect the adds, lots of them will also get rolled over
Well no, how are other specs supposed to cleave with los
icy mulch
You're assuming we will top ST dps.
dim basalt
We are up there
Otherwise we wouldnt be worrying about nerfs
But its w/e, theres a good chance there will be a balance patch either tomorrow or on Monday
Or at the very least in the first patch week
Balance is a massive mess right now with variance of >20%
(per sims)
icy mulch
Is BM still bugged?
dim basalt
mhm
steep osprey
Is BM still bugged?
I don't think it's bugged as much as the change they made for their tier set made them giga
The changed the damage on player to instead be from pets, meaning it's a lot more damage
Their tier set is 30% dps xdd
dim basalt
Imagine BM not being strong for one season
icy mulch
Their tier set is 30% dps xdd
30%, wow. Now that is insanely unbalanced.
steep osprey
trying to get zekvir before season is over
Well, they changed it last week
and there hasn't been a new ptr build since
quaint otter
this shit is impossible
Skill issue
steep osprey
true
shadow ibex
Otherwise we wouldnt be worrying about nerfs
I ain't worried
steep osprey
baseg
shadow ibex
dim basalt
I ain't worried
Because you already know nerfs are on their way?
naive breach
no nerfs your honor
azure basalt
how people managing best-in-slots weapon and house of cards trinket on ptr? They share the same cooldown, kinda weird
naive breach
sour onyx
boys do i macro khardros to avatar or colossus smash
errant goblet
if arms isnt the best spec in the game and is behind quite a fare few why are people so certain of nerfs coming?
shadow ibex
Because you already know nerfs are on their way? <:keks:936231610850897992>
Cuz 19 ppl play arms
dim basalt
tru
quasi torrent
me when i press cleave
dim basalt
if arms isnt the best spec in the game and is behind quite a fare few why are pe...
For the same reason blizzard nerfed fury (and thus indirectly arms) when it was only middle of the pack a few weeks into the season
shadow ibex
The masses won't know it's good cuz no arms to join their keys or pugs
dim basalt
Is arms rep as down bad as SVs or what
severe haven
if arms isnt the best spec in the game and is behind quite a fare few why are pe...
Because damage is everything to some people
shadow ibex
Worse for sure
slow saddle
Worse
shadow ibex
It's rare I see an arms war already in group pugging keys
slow saddle
Survival has been strong for ages
dim basalt
"ages"
shadow ibex
I've never ran with one even playing shaman
slow saddle
It just havent been able to live higher keys
dim basalt
I guess the only spec that can beat us is feral
S4 DF was miserable for SV
If that counts
dim basalt
They chose the tier that was most fun but worst numerically, assuming blizz would buff the tier (as they promised)
But that never happened
dim basalt
Think SV was one of the worst 3 raid specs
slow saddle
Why u think we chose season 1 arms tier
slow saddle
I might bw wrong but i do remember surv having very good st?
shadow ibex
Tbh we only had 2 options
slow saddle
Or is my brain scrambled
shadow ibex
Arms s2 set was a joke
silent flame
If arms exists
Why don’t we have legs
sage badge
bleak fog
halcyon valve
If arms exists
Why don’t we have legs
monk
olive nest
halcyon valve
coral crescent
"I wish tier changed up rotation and was interesting"
The monkey paw curls. You now have this.
Imagine not pressing anything but rend when avatar was coming back in about 25 seconds
shadow ibex
Last thing I want is tier to change arms rotation
It's a house of cards
That's how you get current exe rotation
olive nest
Imagine not pressing anything but rend when avatar was coming back in about 25 s...
My god how dogshit is that!?!?
candid pecan
It's a house of cards
coral crescent
quasi torrent
quasi torrent
sussy drink is still good
quaint otter
Is it 1.5?
quasi torrent
? its a passive
shadow ibex
Is there a 3min still or it's 2 min now?
quaint otter
Again im not going to have a proper trinket for 4 month of season WOOHOO
candid pecan
Can’t wait to never get my house of cards on myth track
well... well.. still 16k strenght right?
dim basalt
House of Scholz
olive nest
I need a bis 1.5m M+ trinket
quaint otter
^
quasi torrent
OPC flashback
quaint otter
Alchemist stone lord and savior...
shadow ibex
There's that one that gives haste or crit but it's delves probably
candid pecan
this drops in weekly from delves, its GG
shadow ibex
Tiny tomorrow
quaint otter
The fuck
naive breach
Aware delves
karmic ledge
So what is arms big dmg cd or big dmg hit? When would you tricks one for the dmg buff?
minor gust
You get a dmg buff for tricksing?
minor gust
Doesn't tricks also transfer threat wouldn't the dps most likely get agro
karmic ledge
That's why hunters use misdirect
minor gust
What's the CD cuz there's 2 different arms CDs you can track
karmic ledge
30 sec cd
minor gust
30 sec then you could track colossus smash
karmic ledge
Perfect
minor gust
I mean Warbreaker assuming this is for M+
minor gust
Oh for raid then yeah colossus smash
It's our 30 sec cd
If you want a bigger CD to track Avatar is our 1:30 CD
ivory remnant
Will arms embellishments stay the say next season??
minor gust
Most likely
ivory remnant
Awsome thanks
minor gust
Yeah that sounds awful to play as a rogue tbh
Having to tricks someone for a buff every 30 sec
steep osprey
Wait. Rogue has tricks amps back
They do?
minor gust
fresh spire
Thank fuck
minor gust
I was talking to a ghost then idk
steep osprey
panicking over fake news
quaint otter
panicking over fake news
based
fresh spire
I haven't really looked into other class changes at all
So you could tell me somethings true and I can't deny it
I say panic loosely. Was more of a whuh moment ain't no way moment
minor gust
WW got a plunderstorm ability
steep osprey
last time rogue had t hat amp on tricks was wotlk
lean geode
aff lock LOGIN
steep osprey
and that was the only expac they had it in
lean geode
snapshotting the fattest drain soul of your fucking life
steep osprey
snapshot dn
fresh spire
lean geode
snapshot dn
Wish I could but SOA just way stronger man
quaint otter
WW got a plunderstorm ability
wooohooo the weakest aoe but with awesome movement ability
minor gust
Bladestorm replaced with that whirling firestorm ability when
steep osprey
snapshotting the fattest drain soul of your fucking life
snapshot 100% crit chance in mop
all dots crit for the full duration
classic
It used to proc a lot more but they gutted it because of warlocks and their snapshot shenanigans
steep osprey
yeah
there's also another really strong trinket
affli was insane on council fights
Like the 3 pandas in SoO
steep osprey
sparkuggz was on a different level
Speaking of MoP, thoughts on mop classic?
People are gonna get even more degen
0% chance they'll change the snapshot mechanics because that'll break the game
would be nice but meh
I wonder how warrior performed in mop
seems mid
oh uh
spiral coral
I wonder how warrior performed in mop
We were mid at best
misty sandal
And using fury at the start of MoP was the worst experience ever
rare kite
I wonder how warrior performed in mop
i heard warrior was mid, but apparently very fun. i didn't play warrior until legion, in mop i played so much random shit xD. at the time i thought lfr was the highest difficulty
so i just ran around timeless isle
spiral coral
Warrior is always fun
fresh spire
The one expansion I played blood dk was the one expansion warrior was goated
Vengence was just fun
spiral coral
Doesn’t matter if it’s shit damage or top, it’s just fun
steep osprey
i heard warrior was mid, but apparently very fun. i didn't play warrior until le...
Yeah, It is pretty fun
minor gust
I played monk back in MOP was a great time being a brewmaster
rare kite
for mop classic i will be making a warlock, already have warrior leveled from before. i really like pre legion demonology
fresh spire
I still think blizzard should try to aim tanks more to mitigation <-> more dps.
steep osprey
I played on a private server and I really liked fury
steep osprey
for mop classic i will be making a warlock, already have warrior leveled from be...
I'm not sure if I like MoP demo lol
Peopled loved it but I prefer the post legion demo
My favorite spec is probably destro warlock in mop
rare kite
i honestly do not understand why they didn't make a 3rd dh spec that is like old demonology
steep osprey
Fury in mop was an apm monster
heroic strike and then you had wild strike procs that made 3 next wild strikes half gcd
my wrists died
minor gust
@fresh spire
rich kernel
How is Arms looking in 11.1? M+ and raid? And slayer/col?
minor gust
Very strong with Slayer for raid and col M+
rare kite
How is Arms looking in 11.1? M+ and raid? And slayer/col?
it is looking incredibly good number wise. so good that everyone is expecting nerfs
minor gust
Expect nerfs
rich kernel
Can't ever let warrior have its time in the sun
steep osprey
Can't ever let warrior have its time in the sun
You get your time in the sun for a week
steep osprey
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=1224098/tricks-of-the-trade
That's not a thing
I just logged in on PTR for next season
rare kite
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=1224098/tricks-of-the-trade
this is a pvp spell mate
pvp talent
steep osprey
rare kite
They gonna buff warbringrt
they removed warbringer finally
slow saddle
F r ???
rare kite
yeah lmao