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#arms
void bay
gaunt owl
smartest warrior player
regal socket
have they considered fixing that?
lean geode
Have they considered making demolish not the worst ability in the game to cast?
shadow ibex
Anything with a longer cool down than 45 seconds is also cosmetic
BS roar spear ravager all cosmetic 
regal socket
still deciding what to play s2.. leaning towards warrior bc my frienid group needs a tank
annoying that the whoel rage mechanic just doesnt matter
its so annoying
trim lintel
tacit crystal
I mean rage probs does matter for prot
happy valentines day
strange perch
its supposed to be xiaoweixiao
LMAO
spark obsidian
who is complaing about colossus?
anyone who complaing about colossus is disguised pally ret
burn then before it spread
weak rain
colossus would've been great if it had no demolish
spark obsidian
lol you guys complaing about the root? omg
tacit crystal
...
spark obsidian
go fury or go ret, arms is for big boys !!!
wheat lagoon
i have zero complaints about demolish. just another button
only annoying thing is if tank moves when you decide to cast. then moves out of melee
but most of the times, just hold your buttons when tank is fully planted
half vine
i'm excited for using demolish with actual defined graphic edges of ground spell effects
slow saddle
i mean the root is fine, the cancel if mob dies, or moves a centimeter in aoe scenario
frustrating at best
restive jay
Jesus
latent hull
can write ticket
lean geode
Is this slayer or colossus
Slayer, col is 3.03 in single target spec but like why would you do that to yourself
quaint otter
Dh 2.8 rogue around 2.5 dk is 2.6
nuts it will be nerfed...
restive jay
Was just curious
lean geode
nuts it will be nerfed...
Maybe yeah, I think it's still behind some other specs though
gusty nymph
behind enhnce
lean geode
Enhance, bm, lock
gusty nymph
we provide no utility. let us do serious dps
quaint otter
fossil thistle
we provide no utility. let us do serious dps
?
restive jay
we provide no utility. let us do serious dps
I mean neither does dk
fossil thistle
Idk about you.. but I provide a repair anvil for my raids...
restive jay
And itโs 500k dps behind
lean geode
I mean neither does dk
Who's gonna tell them
restive jay
U think dk brings more than warrior?
shadow ibex
Amz and grips are far better than any war utility
quaint otter
Buff all melee
but ench and ret.
restive jay
True tbh most melee are still miles behind all ranged
shadow ibex
I mean boss strats have literally revolved around gripping adds in
fossil thistle
but ench and ret.
They're casters to me
fossil thistle
There are 0 grippable adds in the next raid
I'll be an add you can grip bb cake
lean geode
Grip is an actual cheat code in pug keys
gusty nymph
m+ s favor rdps, so melee need love
restive jay
Eh I donโt really care about keys tbh
quaint otter
m+ s favor rdps, so melee need love
therefore dk and ench were meta so long
rogue too
gusty nymph
s1 maybe. not s2
quaint otter
iron wire also a cheat code for m+
highlt doubt
restive jay
Didnโt both of those get replaced by moonkin in most situations
lean geode
sin rogue + ppal in keys below like 14 means no mobs get to cast
quaint otter
its great utily
quaint otter
There is a rogue player in 20s key range iirc
gusty nymph
shadow ibex
Wow players are so dumb
quaint otter
Make warrior
restive jay
Balance is super wack rn though
restive jay
And the season launches in 3 weeks
shadow ibex
Fuck I gotta get in on this bread
gusty nymph
Wow players are so dumb
u are not playing wow?
lean geode
There is a rogue player in 20s key range iirc
Casual was playing sin in a few TGP keys yeah but mostly enhance
gusty nymph
ok, maybe this conversation is not for u ๐
gusty nymph
good. feel free to come back when u ready ๐
livid cloak
Is it that easy to get clicks on a YouTube video
Yes, people click on anything with a tier list. It's absolute nonsense
livid cloak
Lol
Its just how people in 10s asking for meta classes happens
Just brain rot all the way down
shadow ibex
How I look at the YouTube video telling me about ptr when it's free to play
gusty nymph
how can you be so pompous about a videogame...
livid cloak
Rn there are so many vengeance dh doing keys because it's expected to be best tank in s2
And they're just falling over
Its rough out there
shadow ibex
Sounds like dh for like the first 5 seconds of a pull
livid cloak
how can you be so pompous about a videogame...
Ignore any video that has a tier list and your life will be better for it
You'll be happier
Just play what you want
Especially videos like that where it's all speculation and click bait
livid escarp
Or watch videos with tier lists and still play whatever you want?
livid cloak
Nah
gusty nymph
Ignore any video that has a tier list and your life will be better for it
the value of your advice is great ๐ cheers
livid cloak
Tier lists are like bis lists
livid escarp
Except yes
tribal ember
In the raid ST build, if i were to get rid of skullsplitter what would be the best place for that extra point?
shadow ibex
Any st talent in the center row
serene cairn
How is the execute window looking this tier? I know some patches it's more impressive than others.
severe crag
If nothing changes then it will be crazy
serene cairn
That's what I like to hear
icy mulch
Is it that easy to get clicks on a YouTube video
What really bugs me, is that reaction, reaction, to reaction, reaction videos are becoming so common.
strange perch
In the raid ST build, if i were to get rid of skullsplitter what would be the be...
why would you ditch Skullsplitter? It is flat DPS boost.
gusty nymph
arms has enough buttons to worry about
true dat
fresh spire
also bleeds havent been buffed at all in S2 while bleed related talents took a nerf at the same time reducing the upfront value of bleeds overall, SKS is a net neutral to just play bloodborne instead
silk spade
why would you ditch Skullsplitter? It is flat DPS boost.
cause it feels like shit to play probably
shadow ibex
Last I heard ppl only complain about sks because they need something to complain about
silk spade
cause balls
ball
shadow ibex
Not because it's fuckin dog ass to play
astral rock
hey im looking for a video creator from legion that did alot of arms content, dont think he creates stuff anymore but im on a nostalgia trip and need a fix
i remember the name being cor or something like that
quasi torrent
corejo?
quasi torrent
they don't go by that name anymore, unsure if youll be able to find it like that
quasi torrent
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
quasi torrent
1 unit of ball
1 cmยณ
silk spade
stop anda youre gonna scare the americans
quaint otter
cause balls
YEP BALLS
trim lintel
๐
quaint otter
๐๐๐๐
weak rain
do we have direct link to our ptr sim?
quaint otter
We only have balls right now
minor gust
quasi torrent
fresh spire
weak rain
My rl calls arms sim bullshit, i need a proof
tacit crystal
your rl might be stupid
weak rain
true, buuuuut
upbeat pelican
i hope you're not one of my raiders :)
upbeat pelican
lean geode
My rl calls arms sim bullshit, i need a proof
Madox said this raid was arms coded even before arms got giga buffed
weak rain
its the matter of how many warriors we will have in the next raid 1 or 2, sooo
minor gust
dont worry warriors will get nerfed on the week of the raid
weak rain
dont worry warriors will get nerfed on the week of the raid
not if we do almighty sandbagging tech collectively
while crying
minor gust
Warriors are zugs they gonna zug even if it gets them nerfed
spark obsidian
yeah, we zug
olive nest
zug zug
fresh spire
Fortnite zugchug
fresh spire
https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-mythic-plus-mythic-dungeon-vulpera-gif-14795609251194413487
icy mulch
I have D&D soon.
https://tenor.com/view/nat-20-baldur's-gate-baldur's-gate-3-critical-sucess-gif-14789122616741343796
fresh spire
i typed fennec into gifs and it came up with the caption already there
its like giffy knows the discord
tenor even
severe haven
pathfinder gang
fresh spire
aliem
icy mulch
Were you here and someone started calling Arms, Slarms?
magic canopy
@thick kelp slarmy garmy upon you
icy mulch
walhe has been doing it for weeks
lol, makes me think of that drink from Futurama. Slurm.
rare kite
I have D&D soon.
what are you playing?
minor gust
Im Slarmin
icy mulch
what are you playing?
Tonight, D&D. I'm close to having a campaign for Aliens ready though.
icy mulch
Oh, I usually run the game. Today I get to play a War cleric.
rare kite
nice. cleric owns
icy mulch
My oldest D&D character I have is what my WoW character was named after.
Elven Fighter.
fresh spire
lol, makes me think of that drink from Futurama. Slurm.
man i've not seen futurama in years
bender owned
lean geode
Pour one out for Bender Bending Rodriguez
icy mulch
https://tenor.com/view/knight-xbox-gaming-elder-scrolls-games-gif-27629886
That's pretty accurate to my character. lol
magic canopy
every character ive made has been a swrod man
shadow ibex
a house on my street used to have a 10ft replica of bender on their lawn
no context just a perfect copy of bender and now its gone
void bay
no context just a perfect copy of bender and now its gone
why did you steal it and where is it
shadow ibex
the immutable desire to steal a 10ft tall bender statue
quasi torrent
the immutable desire to steal a 10ft tall bender statue
not having one big L
icy mulch
https://tenor.com/view/kino-zero-berserk-guts-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%...
Guts is cool and all, but I don't think I could stomach going through the 600+ manga to catch up.
Wanna buy some rare collectables though? heh
woven wasp
Sords best choppers
actually thatd probably be an axe, id recommend a sword for slicing though
void bay
at least you can buy everything online now
fossil thistle
Wanna buy some rare collectables though? heh
Haha I would but
Just bought a 2025 750 ๐
icy mulch
Suzuki, blah.
fossil thistle
It was that or Kawasaki, and I didnt want a kawi:o
If Honda had the cbr600 still, I wouldโve gotten that.
My last two bikes have been Hondas
icy mulch
Kawis are pretty good. If I had the money I'd most likely ride a Ducati.
fossil thistle
Itโs the maintenance of a duc that turns me away haha
Theyโre beautiful though donโt get me wrong
icy mulch
I'll stick with my Dyna Street Bob though. Not realy a fan of the death trap crotch rockets.
fossil thistle
Iโve got access to a 2006 dyna low rider too
My moms bike but she hardly ever rides anymore so ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
icy mulch
Here is my bike. It's a 2013.
icy mulch
I did a lot of custom work to it, so it looks more like a Honda Shadow 87 special.
fossil thistle
This is the new one, year newer, but itโs 6speed vs 5speed
And a 99 fat boy I think? Behind it
icy mulch
Electra glide in the back, my father had one of those.
fossil thistle
Aah
(Wasnโt sure tbh ๐)
The 06 was a small upgrade, with the batwing and highway pegs. I think it has a stereo system in too
I just canโt wait for warmer weather, my bike is resting in its crate in the warehouse till April ๐
icy mulch
I saw a Honda diesel crotch rocket once. Damn thing looked like the Batcycle from The Dark Knight.
fossil thistle
๐ thatโs wild
A buddy was building a two stroke 82 CB, motor came from an old snowmobile, was pretty sick. Not sure if he ver finished it
icy mulch
That thing would burn oil like a fishing boat I bet.
ivory depot
Is there a write up or anything on playing ovinax egg? I just got one but Iโm not sure how to use it because Iโm a gorilla
shadow ibex
there's a weak aura that tracks how many u have and when its active
i use that and just use at 20/10 on pull
its not that bad to stack up and maintain i've had 20/10 in queen phase 1 and that's a ton of movement just dont mindless move around and have WA in a good spot
ivory depot
I assume its harder in keys lol
shadow ibex
yea i wouldnt touch it in keys
i just use hero track sac in bags + raid logging atp anyway
ivory depot
makes sense, I dont have anything better atm but Ill get something soon I guess. arakara jail for now
severe haven
people doom and sim and cry in their class discords
meanwhile we got chads showing off their bikes
lovely
minor gust
severe haven
I'm not a Chad. I'm a Stacy!
Even cooler!
Do you listen to mรถtley crue a lot while riding that
vast surge
Stacy got cucked by her mum
tender pecan
pearl jasper
Is there any hope that they just leave Colossus smash animation as it is? Really don't like the new one
rare kite
Is there any hope that they just leave Colossus smash animation as it is? Really...
doubt it. the good news is that they are iterating on it, so the "new" one will not be the final one. tho we might get it for a while until they make another one
pearl jasper
doubt it. the good news is that they are iterating on it, so the "new" one will ...
Fair. Have they said what sorta theme they will go with for it?;
I just don't want it to have magical flying hammers
rare kite
we know nothing. we just know they will iterate on it, as almost no one likes the magical flying weapons things, or the whirlwind before the flying hammers thing for warbreaker
pearl jasper
Ah okay good, I'm not alone at least. Hopefully others have made that clear in the forums
lean geode
joever
hexed saddle
shadow ibex
[00:39]
magic canopy
show me the overall coward
lean geode
No ๐
minor gust
Arms sucks needs another buff
gaunt owl
Arms is so fucking bad
silk spade
any cleave pressers in the chat
minor gust
no I press WW!
finite wasp
brittle fiber
gyyyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaatttttttt
untold trench
Oh I am gonna use that screenshot to spread missinformation
Just need to crop it a little bit
untold pewter
Lmao
quaint otter
boreal remnant
slow saddle
Keep sandbagging
vague nova
is there a way to make the sims put bladestorm > cleave into the spear window in aoe instead of cleave op op cleave?
thick kelp
sure
slam bladestorm really high up in the apl with a conditional if the spear debuff is up
hollow bane
steep osprey
@thick kelp What are they doing with BM? Who thought it was a good idea to have the 4p function this way
this shit needs to be gutted in half
If it's actually 30% buff from 4p then there's 0 chance they don't change it
swift crown
If it's actually 30% buff from 4p then there's 0 chance they don't change it
0 chance 
brittle fiber
all these warrior changes me made completely forget we're doing theater of pain and cinderbrew meadery next season
steep osprey
Cinderbrew is a lot better than it used to be at start
severe haven
all these warrior changes me made completely forget we're doing theater of pain ...
it made me forget how janky the spec can be as well
oh well we'll take it
icy mulch
less being weird more cat gifs
If all they change is the the tier set, good. If they knee jerk nerf again, I'd prolly unsub.
tacit crystal
https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-gif-23437635
gm
icy mulch
Marning
fresh spire
https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-gif-23437635
i like the long version where he keeps getting more fucked up
icy mulch
Kitty burrito
fresh spire
purrito
quasi torrent
https://tenor.com/view/cat-burrito-kitty-gif-23035100
fresh spire
:kekw
severe haven
mine just attacks me when i do that
quasi torrent
americans don't know what this number means
quaint otter
what the...
rain cipher
Lol
magic canopy
I'll take my measurements in burgers thank you
minor gust
icy mulch
Man, sitting here hammering on the target dummies has made me realize something. MS has way too long of a cool down.
magic canopy
Every 4 globals without battle lord or eb
I don't mind the flow of it, but the rotations gonna be annoying with how strong OP and opportunity strikes are
minor gust
Man, sitting here hammering on the target dummies has made me realize something....
its fine allows talents like EB and BL to exist even if we dont play BL
icy mulch
Battlelord maybe a good alernative to EP, but man I feel that drops ST even further.
minor gust
this season of TWW made me come to terms that this df/TWW version of arms is hard carried by EB and BL. This spec is nowhere near as fun without them
golden anchor
Yall think we back to slayer for m+?
icy mulch
Not wrong. Battlelord was one of my fav Shadowland legendaries.
minor gust
Yall think we back to slayer for m+?
most likely not
golden anchor
๐ฎ
daring heron
hard no
icy mulch
Yall think we back to slayer for m+?
Most likely fury
daring heron
col is the way in m+ whether we like it or not
golden anchor
damn
minor gust
ive heard fury is still enjoying thane for M+
daring heron
doesnt mean slayer is unplayable in m+ ofc
minor gust
yeah Krisp really cookin that jugg build
icy mulch
for 10s below Slayer burst might be better?
minor gust
and cleave still does decent aoe for slayer cuz reap
daring heron
slayer burst is nonexistent as long as arms bladestorm is the way it is
icy mulch
I was talking about Arms Slayer. lol
icy mulch
Col Arms no doubt tops.
minor gust
WB demo collateral is just very fucking strong pack 2 pack dmg
icy mulch
Though playstyle still sucks, and Thane Fury I feel will still win out by the time everything goes live.
minor gust
on low keys you will rarely have bladestorm cuz you cant get as much cdr
cuz your flying through shit demo can get back real easy with cleave ms spam
magic canopy
It'll be col m+ or thane fury
Might depend on the dungeon but colls overall is very good and not as far behind ST with the buffs it got
Not good enough for raid but plenty for m+
minor gust
bosses with adds will help mask the col ST too
naive sage
I donโt feel satisfied with playing colossus because my demolish rarely crits and I donโt like cleave being the most important button
daring heron
M+ col ST feels more acceptable after the recent round of buffs for sure
naive sage
If I must have hope in rng, at least Reap the Storm is cool to me
daring heron
doesn't match fury's ST but at least the tradeoff feels more fair now
minor gust
I donโt feel satisfied with playing colossus because my demolish rarely crits an...
well cleave is the most important button for both slayer and col aoe
naive sage
well cleave is the most important button for both slayer and col aoe
True, but colossus pumps it a lot and collateral damage becomes even more important
icy mulch
doesn't match fury's ST but at least the tradeoff feels more fair now
That's a bonus
errant goblet
crit makes a video happy about the balance of arms nerf INC
daring heron
i defo only topped overall because of pi
minor gust
i defo only topped overall because of pi <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
should have just titled the video PI IS SO BUSTED IT MAKES ME DO BIG DAMAGE
daring heron
xd
@fresh spire i cut out the part where i pointed out the 19mill cleave crit as promised
naive sage
We have no utility so we should always be top dam
Just like vanilla 
fresh spire
<@140264255302664192> i cut out the part where i pointed out the 19mill cleave c...
i legit just found your video as you tagged me ๐
almost like you been watching ๐
fresh spire
tbf that 19m hit is a very very particular set up, you won't always hit that big number
daring heron
ye
fresh spire
but when the stars align 
magic canopy
Hide hide hide
daring heron
big collat into all cds lineup
errant goblet
im thinking..8-9% dmg nerf on arms 3% BM buff, 6% destro buff and 5% enhance buff next
fresh spire
i was wondering the other day could some keys actually use blademaster purely as a means to try offset SS/Colat a little to make it line up with CDR rav
naive sage
im thinking..8-9% dmg nerf on arms 3% BM buff, 6% destro buff and 5% enhance buf...
Throw in some mage buffs 
daring heron
i was wondering the other day could some keys actually use blademaster purely as...
for full aoe could be worth idk
errant goblet
Throw in some mage buffs <:dander:905248880910815302>
right my bad! 7% mage buff
fresh spire
for high keys maybe ๐คท
quaint otter
Throw in some mage buffs <:dander:905248880910815302>
Yes sir
fresh spire
where you actually get to smack a mob for that long to stack/ramp
was looking at slayer builds for keys
and realistically i think WB/BL might be the play too, trying to go for Reap value, dropping CT/Jug for Bloodsurge/finishing and trying to always press cleave/ms as a prio
naive sage
pondering. contemplating. manifesting retri pala delete
fresh spire
no enhance is kinda sadge too
magic canopy
If only blord cleave didn't get shot with the overpower change
Since it used to reset both I thought
Unless I miss remember
daring heron
yes used to reset cleave too
fresh spire
๐
naive sage
Arms changes leaked
Tactician resets CS
daring heron
i should have blurred out the max crit number
fresh spire
i think there is quite a bit for colossus to play around this tier with mob count etc switching up builds a little
but slayer i think is kinda fucked
SD requirement is pretty harsh
minor gust
big redacted bar over the Cleave crit
daring heron
i think there is quite a bit for colossus to play around this tier with mob coun...
ye for sure
the base kinda stays the same but there are flex points
fresh spire
the dream is playing long sweep DN in TOP over colateral
i do want to see DN/longsweep being "so back" at some point
naive sage
Kurog after SS went baseline.
Good times
fresh spire
needing to spend a talent point for sweep was a fucking sin
and we got long sweep in return
magic canopy
Talent should been positive sweep
daring heron
rip colossal might exe
shadow ibex
idk what u could even do
candid pecan
fixed ๐
stone marsh
Damn arms looking strong damage wise. Time to main warrior next season
shadow ibex
oh god
quaint otter
Damn arms looking strong damage wise. Time to main warrior next season
this petko?
candid pecan
yes
stone marsh
this petko?
Yeah, been hearing lately that arms is stronk on ptr so decided to check it out
minor gust
dont get your hopes up
warrior doesnt survive being op
well be nerfed before ptr is over
candid pecan
its very good, colossus on AOE and ST, but its not the only spec which is very good so I really hope they keep it as is
magic canopy
It's okay
daring heron
it's not bad
magic canopy
Warlock and spriest get shot over heroic logs this time
stone marsh
its very good, colossus on AOE and ST, but its not the only spec which is very g...
Yeah but warrior is way easier than the other classes (aside from BM and ret) so I would prefer it
daring heron
without PI and monk debuff i would have done like 20% less damage
magic canopy
We do boss dam
daring heron
i did the maths trust me bro
shadow ibex
yea ur only over the mage by like 7%?
minor gust
so true
candid pecan
shadow ibex
with dh debuff its probably close
candid pecan
I trust you
shadow ibex
if not even
upbeat pelican
without PI and monk debuff i would have done like 20% less damage
So Arms confirmed to be PI prio S2?
candid pecan
yeah good luck convincing the raidleader
quaint otter
pi tank idc
upbeat pelican
yeah good luck convincing the raidleader
I am the raid leader ๐คฃ
daring heron
maybe theres an argument for it in execute phase in raid
candid pecan
oh, okay then... you can sim your character with and without PI and then tell all other PI wanters to sim too, biggest numbah wins
quaint otter
or just pi pet/dot class
quaint otter
upbeat pelican
oh, okay then... you can sim your character with and without PI and then tell al...
Yeah :) I actually made a sheet for myself which crossreferences bloodmallet to our raider's avg performance in raid to give PI prio
severe haven
imagine getting PI
severe haven
Damn arms looking strong damage wise. Time to main warrior next season
great in ST mid in everything else it looks like
petko gave arms a 2 in fun chad
bottom in survivabilty
good good
stone marsh
Well it's a very simple spec, maybe that's what he meant about the playstyle
upbeat pelican
Playstyle (fun) and easy to play are separate columns in his chart
upbeat pelican
Those types of sheets can be great tool for people who like to play multiple classes and are not pushing highest end content
upbeat pelican
you can see the correlation
F.ex BM and destro have big numbers on both
stone marsh
F.ex BM and destro have big numbers on both
I usually struggle with ranged positioning, melee is easier, just stand where the enemy ius
upbeat pelican
I usually struggle with ranged positioning, melee is easier, just stand where th...
I don't like casting either. BM is like a melee but ranged :)
boreal quartz
Damn arms looking strong damage wise. Time to main warrior next season
love the random number generator 2nd tab
really exemplifies his methodology
mental peak
Kek its just entertainment , pinch of salt and all that some of his takes are decent though
upbeat pelican
you should do the sheet yourself and see how you would score :)
vestal marten
Hello, do we know how much gain we have with the next set for the season 2? I search some sims i dont find
boreal quartz
tierlist season is the horror
vestal marten
Thanks, where you find it? can you like the url?
boreal quartz
wheat lagoon
is this a private APL?
vestal marten
thanks
wheat lagoon
apologize, I meant the warbreaker discord that the APL was created
I tried clicking the warbreaker discord link and it didnt let me in lol
minor gust
just an invalid discord inv link
wheat lagoon
i just didnt know that discord existed, i'll look them up
vast helm
@daring heron we safe?
wheat lagoon
LOL
candid pecan
OKAAY 3.150M
pearl jasper
On ulgrax, does die by the sword stop you dying if he pulls you in?
hollow plover
On ulgrax, does die by the sword stop you dying if he pulls you in?
like an immunity you mean?
pearl jasper
like an immunity you mean?
Yeah, like can you get pulled in and not killed by him
the bite he does when you enter his ring, do you parry it with die by the sword?
hollow plover
That'd be news to me
pearl jasper
assuming it dosent work then, thank you ๐
hollow plover
Not sure how you came to that conclusion
Parry is a very bad mechanic
compared to immunity
like im not sure how u even came to the conclusion of having to answer that
pearl jasper
Just wondered, as it looks like the boss pulls you in and then does a big attack that kills you
hollow plover
it's not a melee attack
pearl jasper
noted, thank you
fossil thistle
Donโt get pulled in is best solution though
strange perch
this is so based ๐คฉ
minor gust
Or or or even better just do go in the pull in circle and tell your raid leader you lagged.
sudden hare
boreal quartz
rajar
thick kelp
GUlp mortal
fresh spire
lpule
trim lintel
ejecutar
weak rain
troll best simming race for arms ?
steep osprey
Gople
slow saddle
Dragon is bis
pearl jasper
Or or or even better just do go in the pull in circle and tell your raid leader ...
genius!
I like colossus but I think it sucks that we are always seeing slayer nerfed
weak rain
Is velf okay at least?
thick kelp
Velf very good
odd umbra
Hi im a new warrior player, i have been playing rogue since legion.
Which spec do you recommend for leveling
ahd which one leads to be stronger next patch
trim lintel
arms
boreal quartz
ahd which one leads to be stronger next patch
depends on content and context
its like rogue where u can be the guy who only plays 1 of the dps specs
but realistically u wanna be able to play all of em
odd umbra
understood
quaint otter
balls.
outer skiff
dim basalt
shadow ibex
It waits 20 seconds to use the weapon on use?
Does trink put it on cd? I wasn't using it ever on ptr
fresh spire
puts it on cd on sim
got a weird interaction if you trinket first weapon dont go on cd
but SIMC has it coded to do it on cd regardless due to them thinking its a bugged it works one way not the other.
shadow ibex
Ok
Despite shit timing in sim still beats other weap is kinda dumb but ig it is rare loot?
halcyon valve
fucking killed silken court and had the highest P2 burst phase on the kill 
19 million demolish crit in a different damage amp big number good
void shell
Anyone got a PTR build for the highest ST
crystal umbra
Hi im a new warrior player, i have been playing rogue since legion.
Which spec ...
Fury is fun for leveling if you just want thoughtless AoE. Very simple and fun.
tacit crystal
fucking killed silken court and had the highest P2 burst phase on the kill <:Arm...
did your details jump
fuck thats so hot
fossil thistle
fucking killed silken court and had the highest P2 burst phase on the kill <:Arm...
Thatโs hot af
void bay
fucking killed silken court and had the highest P2 burst phase on the kill <:Arm...
I would slyly put that into my resume and dating profile
halcyon valve
Lmao
real vault
The Bis weapon gonna be best in slot
rare kite
whats the bis weapon next tier
bis
sacred zodiac
bis in slot
magic canopy
those boomkins keep their claws off my weppy
lilac quiver
I love how every single time somemone asked what the bis for blank slot is gonna be "oh itll be bis"
is always the response
lol
magic canopy
@thick kelp can you send me the goober weak auras for arms again
the sd and opportunist ones
magic canopy
icy mulch
I want to boop the snoot!
magic canopy
she is a goober
icy mulch
She a chonker. lol
magic canopy
That's me right now. Still in a snow storm here.
snowed for us this morning
didnt expect it to but it was rainey yesterday
tacit crystal
snowed for us this morning
did you see my doh
magic canopy
no
tacit crystal
also how do i apply to be a splitbody
magic canopy
https://tenor.com/view/cute-fox-jump-splash-sploosh-gif-9868262
idk why reminds me of an otter
magic canopy
also how do i apply to be a splitbody
i have no idea tbh
icy mulch
snowed for us this morning
Current situation. Lol
magic canopy
damn thats was more then us
had like an inch maybe and still melted away while cloudy
icy mulch
Just glad tomorrow is family day, so I have the day off.
magic canopy
nice
tacit crystal
Current situation. Lol
did you see dog
meager timber
So in higher keys am I just supposed to defensive stance as a defensive cooldown?
magic canopy
ya
meager timber
Is it impossible to get into higher keys without a premade on arms?
I just started playing it this week and holy crap itโs fun. ๐
severe haven
Is it impossible to get into higher keys without a premade on arms?
yes
maybe some melee comps
shrewd niche
Most groups are just waiting for a tank,healer, lust or brez
meager timber
lol I feel like going from enhance to arms is high key suicide yeah this is my fear
meager timber
Oh I made this purely for s2 just getting it ready
severe haven
come s2 it'll be easier
shrewd niche
Then it should be fine just always gonna get last pick cos we don't have lust or brez
If meta tank and healer have those is gonna be even better
meager timber
Ok yeah.
rare kite
Then it should be fine just always gonna get last pick cos we don't have lust or...
if arms does enough damage we will get picked
shrewd niche
Talking about pugging tho groups are always waiting for what they need before damage
Well high keys atleast
rare kite
yes i am aware you are talking about pugging. if videos show arms is doing a ton of damage, and/or if content creators say so. arms will get picked
sullen ingot
Invitable? Big
void lily
Arms looks good so far tho
runic rock
so has anyone tested out arms warrior since the buffs?
and where are we sitting now? like middle of the pack?
void lily
i mean i was watching critcake earlier. hes liking it alot
upbeat pelican
so has anyone tested out arms warrior since the buffs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4LL9-DFAG0
Spoiler: He topped damage :)
dim basalt
Questionable if arms will be good enough still tho
rare kite
Questionable if arms will be good enough still tho
If it stays like this, it certainly will be. Maybe not meta but right outside it
dim basalt
I think "right outside of it" is still a stretch because we will compete with specs with similar damage but actual utility
Only thing we got going for us is that we are really damn tanky
But kind of requiring a sham in the group still sucks
rare kite
I think "right outside of it" is still a stretch because we will compete with sp...
Only meta specs currently out damage arms on ptr
runic rock
Yea it's looking good. Fury still much better single target though?
hexed saddle
no
half junco
quaint otter
Arms balls
vapid pine
Only thing we got going for us is that we are really damn tanky
Wait in what world is Arms "really damn tanky"?
When competing with Rogues, DK's, Mages etc
frosty lava
you never focus on the tankiest specs for survivability
it only matters how far you are from squishiest
dim basalt
And next patch we also get 10% hp for free
frosty lava
since they're the ones who won't survive mechs
vapid pine
Def stance + low cd on SR are insane
lmao calling Def stance insane is unbelievable cope
dim basalt
Youre coping lol
frosty lava
arms only feels like shit if you're used to progging as fury
grizzled hare
Wow I actually wanted to ask about Arms defense and this convo is going on
frosty lava
but arms is relatively tankier than squishy specs
quaint otter
If ignore pain isn't fixed it's joever
dim basalt
There are several people in this channel that would agree with me
vapid pine
Youre coping lol
Nah I just came over from Ret pala last season, warrior is solidly C-tier in survivability at best
dim basalt
Thats an insane cope holy
vapid pine
Especially if you have to tank your dps for fun to live
If packs die slower becuase you're sitting in def stance whenever things get difficult you're fucked either way
dim basalt
If youre perma sitting in def stance thats on you
grizzled hare
Specifically about Arms vs Fury. I progged Ansurek as Arms, noticed Fury not only brought the burst we needed to break out of webs, but also had more tools to break out and the constant 3% of max HP regeneration from Bloodthirst just carried hard in terms of survival compared to Arms. I noticed similar issues when we progged Fyrak in Dragonflight...
vapid pine
Actually I guess if you're talking about raid you're chilling
dim basalt
And its not like dps is a relevant factor until youre playing 17+ keys
vapid pine
My M+ brain kinda cookedm e
vapid pine
And its not like dps is a relevant factor until youre playing 17+ keys
Neither is spec though, so why even discuss it at that point
dim basalt
fair
But still, Arms is easily tanky enough for really high keys
Not Fury levels kind of tanky but still good
vapid pine
Arms is definitely sliding on the lower part of viable, and will require externals on really difficult damage points
dim basalt
Fuck Fury, anyway
vapid pine
Would need to do Enhance-levels of damage to be worth bringing
thick kelp
dont worry we are getting nerfed before season 2 launches
vapid pine
We are kinda getting there fortunately
Nah it's not close to that yet
Enhance is an unbelievable outlier atm
dim basalt
Hence "kinda"
upbeat pelican
is Ignore Pain viable for m+?
upbeat pelican
dead dps = 0 dps
thick kelp
Wont have rage to press it
vapid pine
0 dps = 0 dps too though
thick kelp
- the shield is not noticeable
vapid pine
Would've been useful in earlier one-shot-heavy seasons I assume
dim basalt
Im almost surprised they didnt buff IP tbh
vapid pine
Im almost surprised they didnt buff IP tbh
It's like... 1.6mil atm?
dim basalt
Something like that
vapid pine
Absolute joke
dim basalt
But thats not even the issue
300k per cast or so is shit
With like 11s cd I believe?
vapid pine
Oh yeah it's absolutely not 1.6 mil, it's 1.6mil cap
upbeat pelican
upbeat pelican
Oh right colossus gets more out of it
i'm slayer specced in ptr atm
dim basalt
Is that with maxed out gear?
upbeat pelican
with ptr gear, yeah
dim basalt
Yeah like 6.6% with that talent
quaint otter
as colossus
Awful
rare kite
Still pretty bad. You will almost never be able to stack it
quaint otter
Meanwhile rogues similar button: reduce incoming aoe damage by 50%
astral yarrow
same reason some havoc players dislike momentum playstyle
give me back leap applying CS on impact
dim basalt
kek
magic canopy
tbh im one of those guys
i like the availability OF movement
but required movement for damage not a fan
quaint otter
No it isn't anymore XD
feint has gcd
halcyon breach
Feint is oGCD
astral yarrow
but required movement for damage not a fan
i sort of like it, since it makes you think about it in context rather than always having it for certain situations. Like you had to save charge stacks for breaking webs on ovinax for example
vapid pine
It has its own
"It's own", so definintely not the global cooldown
dim basalt
i sort of like it, since it makes you think about it in context rather than alwa...
Some wanna think and blast, others only want to blast
quaint otter
"It's own", so definintely not the *global* cooldown
Ye i fucked up
dim basalt
But havoc never interested me because of all the movement abilities that are used for damage
Cool on paper but just not for me tbh
slow saddle
Critcake, 100% betrayed us. Told the world arms is good. Instead of sandbagging... he kept up with a fm
daring heron
apologies
static grove
same reason some havoc players dislike momentum playstyle
Outlaws too
steep osprey
Critcake, 100% betrayed us. Told the world arms is good. Instead of sandbagging....
โGoodโ isnโt nerf worthy
quaint otter
Tell that to warrior dev
untold trench
Dont tell warr dev anything, they nerf us when we already underperforming for the lols
gaunt owl
thats what happen when we got snitch
always keep it low
just kidding
blizzard baited people to sub again
and kneecapped wowriar
hollow plover
dont forget that they completely gutted fury in the heroic dungeon week
before any relevant content even released
they will do it to any spec atp
vapid pine
There's no HC week to gut people this time tho
hollow plover
There's no HC week to gut people this time tho
yes. it has to be heroic week in order to get nerfed. true.
hollow plover
idk about you guys but being one of the strongest specs
as warrior
is one of the scariest things
i hate it
gaunt owl
toxic relationship
thats why everybody should uninstall the game
or just play a real class
vapid pine
yes. it has to be heroic week in order to get nerfed. true.
Nah but at least I get to play the content before getting shit on
vapid pine
Lule
slow saddle
โGoodโ isnโt nerf worthy
If we were rets, shamans or hunters id say yes
fresh spire
thinking we make it out of ptr
Still 1 week of ptr
Foolish to think we wouldn't be bottom 5 spec
meager timber
idk about you guys but being one of the strongest specs
This is why Iโm not playing my enhance and ended up making a arms warrior for this season :/
Hate being on top
torpid jackal
steep osprey
steep osprey
If we were rets, shamans or hunters id say yes
Hunters?
halcyon valve
holy collat cleave
๐ซฆ
icy mulch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4LL9-DFAG0
Spoiler: He topped damage :)
He did get PI on cool down....
upbeat pelican
He did get PI on cool down....
It can help :)
void bay
Where are warriors in the pecking order for PI? Being fair to the raid etc etc rather than greedy, I mean.
icy mulch
vapid pine
Where are warriors in the pecking order for PI? Being fair to the raid etc etc r...
1.5min spec, won't be a top 10 PI spec until shit gets bugged probably
void bay
fair
sacred zodiac
arms can be a pretty okay execute pi target depends on spec iteration
p much never worth it
vapid pine
arms can be a pretty okay execute pi target depends on spec iteration
True, but honestly until like HoF I don't think people swap PI target at different points in fights
real vault
The only way as War to get pi is by mistake or other dps dead 
quaint otter
balls
sacred zodiac
True, but honestly until like HoF I don't think people swap PI target at differe...
even at hof levels that usually doesnt happen
sacred zodiac
The only way as War to get pi is by mistake or other dps dead <:deadge:900279927...
or you just ask the priest nicely outside of prog
vapid pine
even at hof levels that usually doesnt happen
I think my old guild would do it if it was clearly overly gigastrong tbh
But yeah, for anything but a crazy gain it wouldn't happen
steep osprey
bribe the priest
icy mulch
The last time PI was best used on Warrior was VoTI. The shaman boss that was two target for the most part.
stone marsh
Hate being on top
Wink wink
stone marsh
What are those cleave icons?
untold pewter
Do you SS in advance to prep for the warbreaker?
halcyon valve
The last time PI was best used on Warrior was VoTI. The shaman boss that was two...
๐ i never got pi
woven wasp
Crit ur not supose to be getting arms nerfed. Get fury nerfed smh
we did that ourselves
if thane catches a targeted nerf that would be insane
thick kelp
Praying for fury's downfall
severe haven
Praying for fury's downfall
Hater
severe haven
If they let enh be surely
steep osprey
Praying for fury's downfall
Praying for arms' downfall
icy mulch
Wot? You can't blame Revvez because boss encounter design perfectly matched our dps profile.
thick kelp
Praying for arms' downfall
naive breach
Wot? You can't blame Revvez because boss encounter design perfectly matched our ...
But they see revvez blast
They nerf
thick kelp
Revvez is dming blizzard devs as we speak to get warrior nerfed
steep osprey
How can we expect to be meta when even warrior players don't want their other specs to succeed
icy mulch
We don't want either to be nerfed. We want to be strong in m+ and Ok in raid.
steep osprey
so real
steep osprey
We don't want either to be nerfed. We want to be strong in m+ and Ok in raid.
is ok in both
olive nest
Collectively do heroic week with 590 crafted 2h
steep osprey
There's no heroic week
olive nest
There's no heroic week
๐คซ
void bay
Revvez is dming blizzard devs as we speak to get warrior nerfed
I swear that guy is a bot....never speaks, no pics of him....just turns up, owns, then fucks off lol
olive nest
Heโs been around here chatting too
void bay
lol
icy mulch
With the way this raid is looking, warrior won't be king in any fight.
olive nest
Just not for a while afaik
void bay
oh ok
steep osprey
I swear that guy is a bot....never speaks, no pics of him....just turns up, owns...
comes to raid
tops dps
leaves
doesn't elaborate
thick kelp
>comes to raid
>tops dps
>leaves
>doesn't elaborate
Narcolies on lords of dread
steep osprey
who
naive breach
>comes to raid
>tops dps
>leaves
>doesn't elaborate
severe haven
Revvez is dming blizzard devs as we speak to get warrior nerfed
Who is that
steep osprey
pretty fun
steep osprey
Who is that
Only the best warrior
icy mulch
If they do fix Arms to be smoother, (shorter cool downs on MS and Cleave) I wouldn't care which spec comes out on top. As long as warrior is in a good place. You know, desired for content.
severe haven
Current rotation is just so janky tho
icy mulch
Why have a long cool down on a spender?
severe haven
I think longer cd is fine but buttons like slam and skullsplitter are like...
Not it
icy mulch
OP will at least not totally sick with tier....
thick kelp
icy mulch
It was better than slam, but that's not a high bar.
steep osprey
it's waaaaaaaaay better than slam
especially for being a free cost ability
it's doing more than double the damage of slam
minor gust
Lower CD on MS ain't it we would need some major talent changes for that to make sense
toxic fog
So how does keys carry over to 11.1? for example, if I completed a +10 key, what key do I receive going in to 11.1? Or it doesn't matter what key I complete, it always go to 2?
severe haven
Lower CD on MS ain't it we would need some major talent changes for that to make...
Yes you're right..
Delete Demolish actually
thick kelp
Arms does neither
minor gust
Yeah can't wait for us to get nerfed this week
thick kelp
minor gust
So we can not have fun and not do dmg
fresh spire
If by some miracle we avoid a nerf we dead on heroic tuning
All unequip your old 4p
minor gust
Usually we don't survive ptr but we def ain't surviving past first week of raid
gaunt owl
this time Blizzard gave people an unhealthy amount of Copium
and everybody got high on it
are you ready for the skyfall ?
shadow ibex
It's OK if we are strong only 18 people play arms
wanton sierra
are u guys excited for the new season? idk if i liked the new tier set, it seems that is the same thing across all classes right?! i quite liked the arms buffs, and ill play as arms ofc, but i shall colossus, hope colossus stays strong
wanton sierra
It's OK if we are strong only 18 people play arms
with time we know who are the real arms lol! its always the same ppl
minor gust
It's OK if we are strong only 18 people play arms
Yeah you know no one is playing this shit spec when I'm this high up in all stars
steep osprey
19
minor gust
No one playing arms why the fuck am I 19
wanton sierra
he is right, he said that is 18 arms gamers, you are the 19th xD
minor gust
Usually I'm in the 70s or 80s so if I'm all the way at 19 clearly no one playing this spec anymore
minor gust
Prob ppl quit before getting Max raid buff too
wanton sierra
the season longevity was shorter this time... i felt season was done when it reached 50%... now with anniversay events, hc classic servers... ppl jumped out of the season 1 way too soon
severe haven
there are like 7 versions of wow to play
minor gust
Season of discovery owns that's about it
wanton sierra
i reached guys!! i made to 60 as warrior on hc server. was fun now im waitin avowed then season 2
halcyon valve
Yeah you know no one is playing this shit spec when I'm this high up in all star...
just like me at one point being the #7 highest rated mythic+ arms player on my realm during this season ๐ nobody plays arms
minor gust
Shit spec that only masochistic losers like me play
severe haven
Season of discovery owns that's about it
classic had a decent run
minor gust
If they could just give charge and leap and rage to another class so I can escape warrior that would be great
steep osprey
Season of discovery owns that's about it
I've been leveling there rn
Hunter
I tried warrior and I got annoyed by how annoying it is to level
warrior still the worst leveling class
even though it is better
minor gust
Warrior leveling is much much better but warrior in sod still suffers the same problem in classic it's only really fun to play when your full buffed and you have windfury
If you don't have windfury it's not that fun to play
Hunter with double kill shot will just one shot everything to 60
steep osprey
wait one shot?