ok this time i hit the highest dps
#arms
teal fossil
whats your opportunity cost though
shadow ibex
I was having fun as colossus with bl playing it like SL. Was prio MS over everything even exe felt really good
teal fossil
if you didnt have fob you would be pressing slam
so fob is only granting you 4% damage
which is still high dont get me wrong
shadow ibex
I was having fun as colossus with bl playing it like SL. Was prio MS over everyt...
Not saying it was good but it felt good
rare kite
I was having fun as colossus with bl playing it like SL. Was prio MS over everyt...
i tested colossus with bl, before all the buffs on ptr. man the st was really garbage, was kinda fun tho
steep osprey
I love colossus playstyle but the fact it sims lower than slayer is a big oof
shadow ibex
Problem with BL is you lose jugg
steep osprey
I don't like jug
shadow ibex
And jugg is just pure dam where bl is feels
steep osprey
I'll just play colossus for st raid
teal fossil
legion apologists like jug
steep osprey
and no one can stop me
weak rain
jugg should go, buff execute in exchange
steep osprey
is this st
weak rain
maybe even swap fury jugg for arms jugg
rare kite
is this st
ofc not, you have fob. fob cannot be st
steep osprey
I missed it
rare kite
lmao
teal fossil
the real question is, can you drop bloodletting for jug
teal fossil
or is that too edgy
teal fossil
why'd they do that
fob would be too generically good when theres no opportunity cost
basically the idea
steep osprey
I think they should change FoB to WW now slams your target more damage but now costs 10 more rage
rare kite
gutted it
they gutted it because of df prepatch. when all we did was spam whirlwind and condemn
shadow ibex
I would rather jug make exe cost 40 always and hit like a truck
teal fossil
it needs to move to the 2nd section if you want it to be ST
steep osprey
I would rather jug make exe cost 40 always and hit like a truck
rip rage
weak rain
I feel like ashen jugg fits arms more currently
teal fossil
ashen jugg fits both better
shadow ibex
rip rage
Well you'd have to take CT to path down to it
And rage being a problem isn't terrible we run finishing blows now anyway
Buff up bloodsurge and make that a choice to make as well instead of smth
steep osprey
Mortal Strike really Mortally strikes now
min normal hit 1m
lmao
feels weird
shadow ibex
Lots of mastery on ptr gear
teal fossil
im suprirsed that MS is doing about as much as demolish on a per hit basis
candid pecan
MP nerf, MS buffed 3 times 
shadow ibex
And you might have ilvl 700 armor
candid pecan
as it should be
olive nest
Wait less reliant on Crit!?
fresh spire
bugged gear check
steep osprey
im suprirsed that MS is doing about as much as demolish on a per hit basis
it isn't lol
thick kelp
730 pieces holy
shadow ibex
Yea 1.2 mil is bug ilvl
fresh spire
holy walhe
thick kelp
holy fishy
steep osprey
oh it is
shadow ibex
Mine was exactly 1.2 mil when it was bugged
steep osprey
time to change
shadow ibex
Should be 1mil tooltip
teal fossil
it definitely is
rare kite
hey walhe, some guy wants to improve on your apl
teal fossil
i said per hit didnt i
shadow ibex
Each demolish swing is about a MS hit now at max demo iirc
steep osprey
yeah but that's not really accurate
shadow ibex
Final hit is different
steep osprey
because one demolsih hits 3 times
thick kelp
hey walhe, some guy wants to improve on your apl
oh
weak rain
hopefully apl upgrade includes test of might
steep osprey
shadow ibex
3k AP ability
steep osprey
rare kite
oh
i'm very curious what his apl would be like. he joined this discord only for that purpose
weak rain
it's 3.3 ap
steep osprey
demolish probably the hardest hitting ability in the game
actually mongoose bite is
thick kelp
i'm very curious what his apl would be like. he joined this discord only for tha...
link me the convo
steep osprey
don't tell anyone
weak rain
strongest demolish vs weakest lightning bolt
steep osprey
yeah that's true
mongoose bite is wild on ptr
it crits for 34m
assuming tier set proc
shadow ibex
They probably had bugged ilvl
magic canopy
@thick kelp doin good work on the spread sheet
steep osprey
send spreadsheet
Colossus Smash should do a little more damage tbh
since it's a cd
weak rain
at least new animation is cool
steep osprey
i didn't notice the animation
shadow ibex
Should have parry flag removed
steep osprey
is it the same one
shadow ibex
Since arms dps revolves around it
shadow ibex
It's just an armor break icon now
weak rain
I've been saying it, if bosses can parry still, let them be able to resist spells too randomly
spark obsidian
who dont like jugg its obvious a hideous ret.
spark obsidian
They need to improve slayer, the idea and the flavor sucks, they could transform bladestorm in a fucking cyclone of blades, idk
inner terrace
They need to improve slayer, the idea and the flavor sucks, they could transform...
Warrior has the most boring set of hero talents. Maybe worse than even rogue.
spark obsidian
no, lol.
Colossus and Montain thane are doing fine in fantasy and etc.
Slayer, not.
quaint otter
Colossus is huge ]
inner terrace
Collosus could have made you even bigger
spark obsidian
its impossible the be worse than rogue
quaint otter
Collosus could have made you even bigger
or bigger weapong
inner terrace
Mountain thane lightning strikes are piddly! Only positive feedback is the noise.
spark obsidian
they could put some animation on avatar when you get mountain thane
inner terrace
Demolish could be a nicer visual and audio feedback too I think it's boring.
inner terrace
It's noises I've already heard before followed by the ground becoming brown in a cone. Yawn!
inner terrace
or you prefer the new warbreaker animation?
No the new warbreaker also sucks
Different reasons tho
shadow ibex
i dont like the new colossus smash cuz ill never see armor above an enemy boss head 20 yards in the sky
inner terrace
I wish the noise for demolish was crunchier and the aoe animation was at least slightly more pronounced. Like a basic ability from evokers give a good feeling of "breaking the ground" more
spark obsidian
colossus could have some synergy with heroic leap, would be awesome
inner terrace
Like the plunderstorm leap
spark obsidian
but just for ultility, not damage
steep osprey
i dont like the new colossus smash cuz ill never see armor above an enemy boss h...
It's not like u can now
regal dragon
I wish the noise for demolish was crunchier and the aoe animation was at least s...
like a crunch bar
inner terrace
like a crunch bar
Or like bones breaking
steep osprey
that'd be nice
inner terrace
Make it have more bass like the floor is rumbling
shadow ibex
It's not like u can now
i dont feel storngly about it now either
inner terrace
DUDDEE like the earth rumbling for the buildup then a loud crunch for the final aoe hit
steep osprey
I think enemies with CS/WB on them should always have a broken armor aniimation above them
not just at start
always
spark obsidian
they could improve but i rly feel that is good enough about demolish
vestal isle
any actual reasons to farm delves next season or are we looking at a dead mechanic
inner terrace
The audio feedback for warebreaker as it is now is even better than demolish 😭
Yeah slayer is weak
They could have done anything for the visuals other than the piddly little slayer strike swing.
steep osprey
slayer doesn't erally have anything new
you just play like u do
and get more SD procs
steep osprey
I don't mind that but yeah
They need to buff BS
or at least have a slayer node
that buffs it
it's so bad
inner terrace
I kinda do it feels weird having to run it in st
inner terrace
I'm not the biggest bs enjoyer
spark obsidian
Slayer need to change BS for something
idk what, but need to change, lol
they put lightning on thane? ok, put fire on slayer, idk
inner terrace
Kick the old warrior guy off and let someone else make changed for them
shadow ibex
megastorm
spark obsidian
No, dont say that
shadow ibex
hurtingcane
inner terrace
next time we gonna see or warriors doing rainbown blows
They just tried doing that for the new ugly CS animations
Lol
inner terrace
Nothing would change
shadow ibex
megas xlrstorm
spark obsidian
the worst i ever seen
inner terrace
They were both ugly idc
inner terrace
Dumb little magic swords smacking the ground around your enemy
New spec for warrior where you use fist weapons only
shadow ibex
rename it to dance of death
steep osprey
Despise the new animations
weak rain
I wouldn't mind some magic for warrior, colossus makes no sense for warrior, it's just ass-pulled. They could've done spellbreaker for arms/prot hero spec or smth
thane is good
steep osprey
how does colossus make no sense for warrior lol
inner terrace
Ranged warrior spec where you're a troll berserker type and throw axes would be cool
weak rain
how does colossus make no sense for warrior lol
its just.... well. warrior?
spark obsidian
I wouldn't mind some magic for warrior, colossus makes no sense for warrior, it'...
dont say that again about my colossus
inner terrace
its just.... well. warrior?
Yes perfect
weak rain
rdd warrior sounds sus
inner terrace
Axe throwing spec
Like zuljin in HotS
steep osprey
Axe throwing spec
That'd be nice actually, a fury hero talent called Axe Thrower, like the trolls
Troll Warlord
from Dota 2
giga
can toggle
weak rain
slayer is just the warrior too btw
steep osprey
between melee and ranged
inner terrace
Das what I'm saying blizzard give me my ranged spec
weak rain
its like warrior has 1 real hero spec and its thane
spark obsidian
Colossus is awesome just weird for tank...mountain thane is doing OK, slayer need some love
weak rain
slayer is fury warrior colossus is just arms warrior
steep osprey
its like warrior has 1 real hero spec and its thane
I'd say it's colossus and thane
weak rain
creative
steep osprey
Slayer is the only one that's not really there
olive nest
Colo owns!
shadow ibex
i think if colossus changed MS animation into a cool hit like slayer gets execute
a bigger size increase
steep osprey
best i can do is slam animation
spark obsidian
Colossus just need come interaction with heroic leap
steep osprey
Colossus just need come interaction with heroic leap
Are you thinking what im thinking
weak rain
it's just warrior and warrior
spark obsidian
like, you gain +1 more charge of leap or your leap now pull anemies
would be awesome as fuck for tank
just imagine, the hulk tank
omg
DREAM
im gonna apply for class designer, brb
steep osprey
@spark obsidian there was a legion legendary that made leap hit bigger and apply CS
weak rain
instead of colossus they could've went for something like spellbreaker
steep osprey
yours sounds cooler tbh
steep osprey
making leap a dps cd sucks
they had something in DF alpha
that made leap grip enemies
spark obsidian
yeah, i dont like to put moviment skills for dps
steep osprey
it kinda sucked though, gripped 5 enemies
spark obsidian
they are changing some hero talents and doing some great work, hunter get a lot of love on that patch
lets hope for the future
steep osprey
that's true
spark obsidian
with hulk smash hero talent
steep osprey
I didn't expect this at this point but they really did well with hero talnet balance too
most classes or specs have them fairly close
shadow ibex
i still dont like that ST col/slayer play same talents
spark obsidian
i think the next one gonna be rogue
shadow ibex
they failed on that imo
weak rain
i still dont like that ST col/slayer play same talents
3-4 MS buffs and bl will outsim jugg for colo Kappa
steep osprey
did u guys know there's one spec simming higher than us on st on ptr
shadow ibex
need 3-4 more
weak rain
I've heard dhs outsim warriors
shadow ibex
or the MS that just got reset
spark obsidian
they could change slayer overall, something like " your slam turn in HEROIC STRIKE"
and when you use HEROIC STRIKE you win the fucking game
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
spark obsidian
weak rain
they could've made MS hit target 3 times for 40% of normal MS dmg under 35% hp target
spark obsidian
Remove slayer, put gladiator back, LOL
wheat lagoon
crit slamming arms rn
spark obsidian
As a colossus you can now hold a Two handed weapon and a shield as a tank 😎
spark obsidian
woul be badass as fuck
rare kite
crit slamming arms rn
yeah he's just doing us a favor by getting arms nerfed. that way fury tier
shadow ibex
im surprised cleave didnt get buffed in last tuning
rare kite
for colossus it did, 5% 🙂
spark obsidian
if they buff cleave now we gonna be nerfed not in 2 weeks but in 1, lol
shadow ibex
oh yea martial expert or w/e got inc
i still wish arterial would get removed for proper ST buff something tied to MS to maek colossus want battlelord
1vmany is good buffs cleave nothin mroe to ask for
weak rain
Colo should have mortal combo talent on top of double stack crit MS talent
spark obsidian
they could put bleed shit on slayer, lol
bladestorm now apply rend or, leaves a pool of blood that gives damage debuff on mobs
remove arterial shit on colossus would be nice
misty sandal
yeah he's just doing us a favor by getting arms nerfed. that way fury tier
At least It was fun while it lasted 
steep osprey
hexed saddle
nerf arms
minor gust
PI diff
quaint otter
The game...
quaint otter
what dungeon?
steep osprey
Honey factory
quaint otter
balls
steep osprey
12
shadow ibex
has big pulls colossus uncapped will shine on first for sure
quaint otter
quaint otter
balls
magic canopy
Arise
wheat lagoon
might just be me but I still feel like Strength of Arms > Dreadnaught
quaint otter
quaint otter
might just be me but I still feel like Strength of Arms > Dreadnaught
dreadnaught should be stronger 8+ targets i think?
wheat lagoon
dreadnaught should be stronger 8+ targets i think?
Yeah, but I feel like Arms does enough AOE without it
quaint otter
Yes
steep osprey
Is that Anakin
silk spade
Is that Anakin
no, that's balls
wheat lagoon
But could change depending on how often big pulls happen
steep osprey
no, that's balls
Interesting
slow saddle
Yeah, but I feel like Arms does enough AOE without it
Never worth unless its significantly better coz st//prio damagd
wheat lagoon
Never worth unless its significantly better coz st//prio damagd
I always prefer more ST in my builds, I hate long boss fights
quaint otter
Especially in current arms...
vast helm
slow saddle
Ngl collosus is not horid in st
wheat lagoon
It's still good
slow saddle
Barely losing ST in M+ build
Well u loose coz u thane
wheat lagoon
Just not Fury good
slow saddle
Slayer st is sweet
wheat lagoon
Oh yeah, it feels amazing
quasi torrent
silk spade
free him..
swift crown
last tendon
15-18mill demolish crits atm, crazy buff
hearty forge
in execute phase in m+ ST how is execute vs mortal prio with colossus build when u not have executioner's precision ?
eager sigil
ms on cd
hearty forge
alright cheers
arctic hearth
How is colossus feeling in m+ on ptr now? Considering comming back for s2
steep osprey
Pretty strong
quaint otter
How is colossus feeling in m+ on ptr now? Considering comming back for s2
we ball
arctic hearth
Think solo que exp will be less horrible than s1?
As long as it feels good to play and actually does good dmg im prob giving it a go
slow saddle
Any non tank specc is horrid to queue
arctic hearth
Ur not wrong but my ret was way less painfull in s1😅
arctic hearth
Yeah thats why im asking if colo arms dps is good enough in m+ to make up for the lack of util
arctic hearth
If they are s tier dmg it helps a lot even though u have stier dps like shaman and dk
slow saddle
We will b a at best
arctic hearth
Wtb BL/ banners
slow saddle
If we hit s we get nerfed
As we are only s then due to overtuned dmg
So cant rly win as dps warrior bro
I mean if rally was 20/25% in m+. But again its every 3min, usually a boss fight has that 1 shot mechanic more often
arctic hearth
Yeah felt like that for a long time 😭
unborn canyon
rotund oriole
can u link the full sheet please?
covert merlin
Enough people have lust. I like banners, but they could also give us mass spell reflect again.
cosmic grail
Group buff banners that drain rage over time.
tacit crystal
why do you want to be aug so bad
cosmic grail
Because I'm about as original as a digestive biscuit.
rare kite
Group buff banners that drain rage over time.
joins discord, instantly says horrible idea xD
rare kite
nice
tacit crystal
what spec i learn next mutou
azure basalt
does demolish damage scale with avatar and wb? and does it also cleave with sweeping strikes?
azure basalt
i see. so do i badly need to use it while sweeping is active or can press demolish as long as its 10 stacks
tacit crystal
i would refer ot wowhead
i legit just slam buttons no think
cringe ass desynced spec
azure basalt
yeah coz most of the time, sweeping does not align well with demolish
anyways, thanks for answering
was just trying to play it since crit is blasting keys rn with arms
rare kite
what spec i learn next mutou
ele
tacit crystal
misty sandal
we are done
regal socket
does anyone have a link to all the 11.1 patch notes in one? i can only find the incremental changes
🤔
icy mulch
Look at #updates-midnight
unborn niche
Arms meta ?
hollow plover
when do yall send Skullsplitter?
brittle fiber
on cd
brittle fiber
just on prio list, comes down to how many sudden procs/marks you have
usually just after the ms after blade storm
rich kernel
Whats the m+ hero tree?
vast glacier
do i see it right, that we got 2 20% mortal strike buffs in a row ?
livid cloak
Cant wait to get nerfed to shit 3 days into the season
It'll happen during 11.1 before the season starts
Don't worry
golden anchor
Were so fucking back
quaint otter
Whats the m+ hero tree?
colo
glossy tusk
It'll happen during 11.1 before the season starts
I will cry
glossy tusk
We are, give us lust
oak kite
do we know which professions are used in dungeons in season2? like tailoring in arakara or engineering cot or bs in stone vault?
gaunt owl
We are, give us lust
thats literally the worst idea we see in here everytime 😄
the utility talk
quasi torrent
balls strike
hollow plover
thats literally the worst idea we see in here everytime 😄
tbf, a battle cry type bloodlust is genuinely very thematic for a warrior charging into battle
more than a shaman having it, even
quasi torrent
shaman has it cause WAY BACK WHEN they were buff units that made other men in your army stronger
(including buffing bloodlust)
quasi torrent
disrupting shout is only thing i actually want
remove battle shout even
remove all raid buffs actually
(or add affordable scrolls / good drums like bfa)
gaunt owl
^
pine terrace
Am I missing something did warr/arms get buffed yet again in past day or its the same list??
honest girder
thats literally the worst idea we see in here everytime 😄
Except it’s not
thick kelp
Utility is copium
dim basalt
As if people would invite a war over sham for lust kek
quaint otter
halcyon valve
Is there even any reason why bl is only available for like 4 classes anymore
Everyones got unique raidbuffs anyway
hollow bane
its just dumb that some turtle as hunters pet can roar loud enough to give bloodlust, but a fucking berserk warrior can't do it
frosty lava
just give us lust + something to counter act bleeds that can be applied to other party members and we're gucci
wet prawn
its just dumb that some turtle as hunters pet can roar loud enough to give blood...
Well said
untold trench
You guys just dont get it, we just need enough utility. I keep saying it we need:
- Heroism
- AoE combatress, that isn't limited by M+, on a 3 min CD
- When we attack, we heal a friendly ally for the same amount (smart healing)
- When we heal an ally it dispels one negative effect; curse, poison and disease.
- When we use Rally Cry; all allies gain immunity for 10 sec
- When we attack an enemy, their attack power is reduced by 1% stacking up to 100 times.
- When we attack an enemy, they take increased damage from all sources, 0.5% up to 200%
- When we heal an ally, they take reduced damage for 1min, 1% per stack stacking up to 100%
If we got these small improvements listed above, we would be meta 100%.
frosty lava
I think it needs something extra, maybe something like;
"Your first ability against an enemy causes them to suffer 100% of their health as damage."
steep osprey
You guys just dont get it, we just need enough utility. I keep saying it we need...
What we need is an AoE combat ress
tacit crystal
or
steep osprey
you scream and combat ress 4 people around you
tacit crystal
kil a team mate to get avatar for 3 minutes
steep osprey
HOLY
tacit crystal
and reck ons cs again ofc
frosty lava
avoid using dstance from the start of the fight until boss hits execute range and you gain 3x damage
steep osprey
defensive stance, you can't move at all and take 75% reduced damage for 1 minute
can't cancel
tacit crystal
gm box
steep osprey
morning gio
tacit crystal
time to volunteer
steep osprey
have you seen critcake's arms runs yday
tacit crystal
do you think ill get to watch one pace in peace
steep osprey
I saw this
steep osprey
time to get nerfed
daring heron
should i delete the evidence
tacit crystal
@daring heron start sandbagging!
quaint otter
Balls.
daring heron
im in the gym between sets
steep osprey
morning crit
daring heron
tacit crystal
yesterday my mom made me ear grey tea
daring heron
ear grey huh
steep osprey
that is cool
tacit crystal
err
frosty lava
Arms sorta requires giga pulls to really pull ahead in m+ in PTR right?
tacit crystal
english breakfast
tacit crystal
probably
daring heron
no i pi diffed him
tacit crystal
holy
daring heron
you should see the last run of the day
steep osprey
ok I'll check
daring heron
overall in priory shows up at the end
tacit crystal
critcake let me download the vod then you can delete evidence
steep osprey
overall in priory shows up at the end
How are dungeons feeling now after all these nerfs?
tacit crystal
gm osaliske
icy mulch
I got PI in a viewer key the other day. Felt so good popping off spiking over 10m.
Morning, I have power again. Went out last night at 8pm my time, so 7pm est.
steep osprey
also how is arms in terms of survivability now?
tacit crystal
despair
daring heron
How are dungeons feeling now after all these nerfs?
better
daring heron
also how is arms in terms of survivability now?
better
icy mulch
10% hp nerfs across the board is massive
steep osprey
well not just that, they also nerfed a lot of dungeon stuff
also what's up with prot pala damage
it's still cracked
20% more damage probably helped a lot too
tacit crystal
frosty lava
I feel like that's been the case for multiple expansions now
prot pal just cranks
almost feels like they want them to have that as a tanking niche
lmao
steep osprey
their tanking niche is interrupting everything and getting disc meta
tacit crystal
their tanking niche is interrupting everything and getting disc meta
happy valentines day
tacit crystal
is fine
icy mulch
They're overrated.
tacit crystal
@daring heron happy valentines day
tacit crystal
They're overrated.
happy valentines day
steep osprey
They're overrated.
real
daring heron
it was yesterday bro
tacit crystal
yeah and
daring heron
ty
icy mulch
If I had a boyfriend all I'd want is breakfast in bed. Lol. Speaking of, the house should be warm enough to get up.
tacit crystal
https://tenor.com/view/fox-cuddle-gif-16130711592083463758
icy mulch
Awwwww, is that your pupper?
icy mulch
Give him some pet pats and a boop for me!
steep osprey
I think ToP first boss is a fury fight, not arms
maybe that dungeon is a fury dungeon
boreal quartz
I think ToP first boss is a fury fight, not arms
Do you dont remember the boss xd
slow saddle
Top is fury
steep osprey
Do you dont remember the boss xd
I do, 3 guys
steep osprey
steep osprey
Slayer looks way worse than colossus on AoE, it's ridiculous
boreal quartz
Fury fight
slow saddle
Its a low target cap dungeon should be fury
slow saddle
Slayer looks way worse than colossus on AoE, it's ridiculous
I mean slayer is "raid" spec
boreal quartz
Its a low target cap dungeon should be fury
I mean it depends on tuning
slow saddle
So makes sense
steep osprey
I mean slayer is "raid" spec
Yeah but its insane
I think slayer needs a big BS buff
inside the slayer talents
or just buff it baseline
steep osprey
yeah that's true
the issue is colossus has demolsih which is a big aoe button
and it buffs cleave giga
slayer doesn't really have anything to do with aoe aside from Reap the storm
and it's just rng
and BS does nothing
There should be a passive node giga buffing BS or something inside slayer
stone marsh
I like execute tho
steep osprey
if it was baseline buff to BS, Colossus might also use BS
gaunt owl
You guys just dont get it, we just need enough utility. I keep saying it we need...
You guys just dont get it, we just need enough utility. I keep saying it we need:
Heroism
AoE combatress, that isn't limited by M+, on a 3 min CD
When we attack, we heal a friendly ally for the same amount (smart healing)
When we heal an ally it dispels one negative effect; curse, poison and disease.
When we use Rally Cry; all allies gain immunity for 10 sec
When we attack an enemy, their attack power is reduced by 1% stacking up to 100 times.
When we attack an enemy, they take increased damage from all sources, 0.5% up to 200%
When we heal an ally, they take reduced damage for 1min, 1% per stack stacking up to 100%
If we got these small improvements listed above, we would be meta 100%.
steep osprey
so idk how to do that unless they wanan buff Ravager too
gaunt owl
top tier copy pasta
steep osprey
I feel like this is so easy to fix, slayer aoe
giga buff BS for slayer and there u go
what's the name of that BS node in slayer
cyclone something
I think this should be each BS strike deals 30% more damage each time it deals damage
it's balanced, don't @ me
so it gradually gets better until the last hit doing giga
opinions
?
Where's fishy
thick kelp
@daring heron Front double bi's?
daring heron
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steep osprey
I thought they said they'd make BS stronger after removing Gathering storm or whatever
but nah
Unhinged took that job
quaint otter
steep osprey
They can make BS a strong aoe button even with unhinged but they don't want to buff it so idk
both ravager and BS need buffs
100% buff
not exaggerating
fresh spire
I'm alive
steep osprey
I'm alive
#arms message Thoughts
fresh spire
Make it do bladestorm damage.
But issue is
Bladestorm itself is ass. If bladestorm actually did damage the talent would be fine
steep osprey
buff BS tbh
baseline
I think both rava and BS could use a 100% buff
it's completely fine tbh
don't @ me
fresh spire
They need to slap unhinged and buff rav/bladestorm. That's a given
boreal quartz
Make unhinged MS do 50% less damage
Yes make arms more shit
steep osprey
They're not going to buff BS and rav without hitting unhinged
and unhinged is insane
to put it lightly
untold trench
Unhinged value is set tho
it is independent of BS, if you not talking giving BS more ticks
BS can do 100m dam, or 1m dam. Unhinged will do the same amount either way
Think most would just want to see bladestorm do big dam - so ignore "math" problems that dont even matter. Just give big number on our ultimate ability.
thick kelp
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shoulda gone blademasters
steep osprey
BS is not an arms ultimate ability
untold trench
BS is the warrior ultimate ability
steep osprey
shoulda gone blademasters
why did u send crit a blademaster's slayer talent build
sandbagging
fresh spire
Walhe
steep osprey
Fishy
untold trench
Every single warrior want BS to do more dam, so we stand united
thick kelp
Fishy
steep osprey
FunkyKitty
thick kelp
It had opportunist
fresh spire
Kill jug.
fresh spire
He run fierce
thick kelp
smh
thick kelp
not even my cook anymore
fresh spire
Opportunist soa>dn. Swap blunt to warbreaker.
steep osprey
is cleave spammable
steep osprey
with Blademasters
fresh spire
Was testing on Dummy for 10 min exdcute
steep osprey
or is it every other button
fresh spire
Finishing keeps up with ct
thick kelp
every other
steep osprey
I could have told you that chatting
thick kelp
yes and no
steep osprey
yesn't
steep osprey
F
steep osprey
with DN
steep osprey
yeah but dn still does 0 damage
steep osprey
ok i'll test that
thick kelp
its also target capped ;^)
steep osprey
Imminent Demise is more bs strikes, right
those BS strikes should also do more damage tbh
I wanna press BS and fly off the handle on AoE
steep osprey
Yeah
I honestly think buffing BS by 100% wouldn't mess up anything lol
unless that makes u wanna use it on colossus
lmfao
buff ravager too
then
is this the build
thick kelp
mbg>deft
untold trench
Rav allows you to spend other globals, it is extra. BS locks you out. BS should just do 10x more dam than Rav
steep osprey
it does do more damage than it but barely
cloud gyro
Make bs a random proc on auto, root you and be uncancellable for 6 seconds
shadow ibex
That's just problem with warrior now. Since every rotation ability for fury and arms got 40% buff
Odyns BS ravager roar spear all do negative dmg
frosty lava
Make bs a random proc on auto, root you and be uncancellable for 6 seconds
This is how it felt to proc bladestorm on single target with signet in shadowlands
slow saddle
Tbf unhinged makes bs do dmg
steep osprey
Tbf unhinged makes bs do dmg
Not in aoe
There should be an aoe unhinged thing as a choice node but that'd mean shit st in dungeons
minor gust
yeah we dont want an aoe option for unhinged unless we want out st aoe problem to get worse
cloud gyro
Are hero talents somewhat balanced on ptr?
steep osprey
I guess somewhat is a good measure
COlossus is like 4% worse on ST but slayer is worse than colossus in aoe
so it is balanced that way
cloud gyro
Thats how it should be god bless
minor gust
in a way its balanced
steep osprey
It's same with thane
fury*
thane is better in aoe and slayer in st
Which is fine tbh
minor gust
slayer for raid colossus for M+
steep osprey
Yeah, I think that type of balance is good
You play different hero talnets based on the content
cloud gyro
As long as i can pretend to be smart by swapping specs in certain scenarios its good
steep osprey
stone marsh
Wish slayer was better at everything
steep osprey
I wish Colossus was better or at least very close to the point it doesn't matter what i play in ST
because of EB
lol
I mean BL
thick kelp
Fuck slayer ngl
stone marsh
Or that demolishes animation had a shockwave or felt heavier or something
steep osprey
tre
minor gust
theres not much to think about when your swapping stuff around for arms. The question 90% of the time with arms talents and builds is do you want more ST or AOE
stone marsh
Nah man, should be casting like a huge shockwave or cracking the earth in front of us
Like an earthquake
Then I would like it
Not it feels like baby pissy strike
cloud gyro
theres not much to think about when your swapping stuff around for arms. The que...
Remove arms from ur message and it still applies
minor gust
warrior animations are held back cuz we dont do magic stuff. which is why the new WB animations is a nice direction to see even if its not that good
reused ww animation for the 10th time
stone marsh
Doesn't have to be magic. Imagine shockwave but on steroids
cloud gyro
Bro i dont wanna whirlwind as arms please
stone marsh
Like you hit then so hard that you create a wave of force and shatter the earth in front of you
steep osprey
too bad u will
cloud gyro
Just let me jump
stone marsh
That would be cool
minor gust
Doesn't have to be magic. Imagine shockwave but on steroids
then you get people going like thats a shaman thing they do the earthquakes and earth stuff
steep osprey
Like you hit then so hard that you create a wave of force and shatter the earth ...
You have to remember u need some visual clarity
can't have it completely blind you
stone marsh
then you get people going like thats a shaman thing they do the earthquakes and ...
But they do it with magic. We just hit the ground very hard with a weapon
Now it's lacking oomph
minor gust
But they do it with magic. We just hit the ground very hard with a weapon
I agree but people are dumb and any little thing that could be magic and compared to other classes they will complain
cloud gyro
Yo guys lets make an animation that doesnt smash the ground
minor gust
most people seem to only want slash up and slash down and slash sideways animations for warrior
stone marsh
Overpower sounds more powerful than the plopping sound of demolish
minor gust
for whatever fucking reason
cloud gyro
most people seem to only want slash up and slash down and slash sideways animati...
Me + based
stone marsh
most people seem to only want slash up and slash down and slash sideways animati...
Some people wanna play button simulator without any animations or class fantasy
Fuck them imo
minor gust
so true
stone marsh
I wanna feel what I play
minor gust
so based
fuck em
I want poe2 warrior animations or lost ark zerker animations
fuck the boring shit we have now
stone marsh
Give me some bombastic shit, I wanna feel goodwhen I press my buttons
cloud gyro
Why is there no crater when i press demolish
minor gust
because blizz doesnt love you
minor gust
also demolish sounds so fucking lame
steep osprey
and can't see shit
minor gust
while warbreaker actually sounds meaty
minor gust
it sounds like your bonking someone with a toy hammer
steep osprey
ok then they should make it better
it goes a long way towards making it feel better
stone marsh
it sounds like crap
cloud gyro
It doesnt sound that bad
shadow ibex
The whirlwind in warbreaker is the worst thing in wow
minor gust
its piss weak when you compare it to WB
shadow ibex
Ever
stone marsh
Warbreaker sounds good (currently), shockwave sounds good. Even Thunderous roar sounds impactful
cloud gyro
Guys the whirlwind part was for sure just a placeholder
minor gust
The whirlwind in warbreaker is the worst thing in wow
yeah like I loved the WW animation when we first got it but to constantly reuse it and add it to an animation when we already had a unique animtion for it was the dumbest thing about the WB animation change
stone marsh
Those things contribute to the feeling of an ability
stone marsh
yeah like I loved the WW animation when we first got it but to constantly reuse ...
Wake of ashes lol
it's literally WW with some waves coming out
shadow ibex
Guys the whirlwind part was for sure just a placeholder
But they tailored it
It's a ww into ground smash
minor gust
over or under they change the WB tooltip to match the animation before release
steep osprey
It is wake of ashes 2nd strikes
Ithink CS/WB should do al ot more damage
because they're cds
I know they're buffing with the debuff obviously
cloud gyro
Their unpaid intern did his best guys dont be toxic, the animation is good!!
steep osprey
but the abilities themselves should od more
steep osprey
Their unpaid intern did his best guys dont be toxic, the animation is good!!
At least they listened to the feedback and are changing it
that's the best u can ask for if something isn't good
stone marsh
Arguably, Thane should have gone to Arms as well IMO, instead of slayer. I like slayer but it doesn't feel very armsy
cloud gyro
I think slayer is cool, its more uptempo/tactical compared to colossus
cloud gyro
Hard disagree
minor gust
At least they listened to the feedback and are changing it
yeah last thing I ever expected from blizzard is acknowledging warrior feedback
stone marsh
Fury and electricity don't match IMO
this is Thane arms
Like warbreaker with Lightning
Now that would be cool
minor gust
they gave it to fury because the original mountaint thane dual wielded.
wintry scroll
Yea can't wait for blizzard to make smthing like this in the 40th anniversary
steep osprey
they gave it to fury because the original mountaint thane dual wielded.
Yeah what was his name
stone marsh
The only thing I would say for Arms Slayer is that I made an orc and transmogged as a Blademaster, and Bladestorm feels very fucking cool like that
stone marsh
Yeah what was his name
Muradin
steep osprey
yeah
minor gust
shadow ibex
Give arms
fresh spire
https://tenor.com/view/thor-avengers-infinity-war-thunder-lightning-gif-15116476
Blood and thunder
minor gust
Since slayer gets unique exe
ive never payed attention whats unique about it. plz dont tell me its just a color change
latent hull
ive never payed attention whats unique about it. plz dont tell me its just a col...
It is
shadow ibex
ive never payed attention whats unique about it. plz dont tell me its just a col...
Just color yes
minor gust
ok back to not caring about warrior animations
theres only so much slash up slash down different colors I can take
latent hull
Demolish fits fury more than thane i think
But demolish would look like a slowed down rampage+onslaught combo
minor gust
tbh you can def make a case for swapping colossus and thane
latent hull
Like fury hasnt used tc b4 tww has it
minor gust
the berserking colossus and the Master fighter who channels the storm of Odin
quaint otter
Fuck colossus
the fuck
void bay
please stop swearing, i use text to speech
trim lintel
fuck
minor gust
latent hull
halcyon valve
Like warbreaker with Lightning
daoc thane effects in wow awoooga
regal stump
for slayer arms even in 11.1 we need bladestorm right? raveger doesnt work with some hero talents
weak rain
just play pants build colossus for st
rich kernel
In m+ col, is Battlelord or Exectuioners Prescsion favored? Looks like they are both used equal in high keys
olive nest
I'd guess some use ep to get more boss/prio damage
void bay
just play pants build colossus for st
what is pants build? Surely ur pants dont matter?
weak rain
Nah, I don't think it's any good, just memeing. Bladestromless/ravagerless build with fatal mark and juggernaut and baattlelord
void bay
Why is it called pants
olive nest
its called pants build becuase if you outline the talents it looks like pants
one sec ill try to dig up hroths funny image
void bay
aaaaah makes sense now, thanks....and yeah, image would be good
void bay
thats what i was thinking until brewji explained
void bay
i just think the name is great lol
shadow ibex
Problem is left side adds no dmg and middle has unhinged
knotty orchid
warrior getting nerfed hard in season 2
slow saddle
I remember smashing through shadowmoon burial grounds
Worst dungeon ever
naive sage
Worst dungeon ever
6/10 imo
gaunt owl
indoor dungeon are the worst
wheat lagoon
what are the odds Arms gets nerfed. was doing a meadery (I died like 8 times due to lack of knowledge of mechanics and bad tank pulls) Tank pulled like 3 hobgoblins and it was gg.
steep osprey
The others probably ain’t that good
wheat lagoon
they were doing like 6-9mil sustain when living. they knew rotation but tank was pulling like double muscle with chef chewie and people just dying. I was living better so I was obviously doing dmg for longer than them
but I was also matching sustain dmg as well
ST we were like within 200k of eachother
slow saddle
Enc is still better than us no?
wheat lagoon
I think Arms is pretty close. From a lot of the keys I've attempted
but we always failed due to bad pulls or bad gameplay
So I cant get a good test run
slow saddle
Y
wheat lagoon
Yeah, maybe i need to find a good enhance
but kinda hard to do
the first pull with lust I was doing like 25mil burst and the enhance was like 3mil below me from what i remember in that meadery
then the next pull the tank just did a curse chewie double muscle pull
olive nest
what are the odds Arms gets nerfed. was doing a meadery (I died like 8 times due...
its hard to judge a person's ability or skill based off a single overall
for example, sometimes people send cds to finish boss's or hard packs off quickly. this wouldnt help there overall but it could help the group not wipe and time the key
gaunt owl
we can only witness your inability to sandbag
olive nest
and then they screw themselves for the following pull/s as far as overall is concerned
gaunt owl
smh warrior about to get kneecapped
wheat lagoon
Idk, as far as I can tell. Arms is doing A LOT of AOE and respectable ST. But personally it doesn't feel overpowered, it feels rather competitive. But raid may be a different story with the MS and Execute buffs.
Hopefully if blizz does decide a nerf, its small adjustments. Not big ones like S1 on fury and arms gets strays.
minor gust
we can only witness your inability to sandbag
Ppaww come back arms might still play like shit but its op and totally will not get nerfed before ptr is over
thick kelp
blizzard waiting for paww return to rework arms
sturdy matrix
smh warrior about to get kneecapped
the instant that warrior is top on warcraft logs, the nerfs are coming
latent hull
the instant that warrior is top on warcraft logs, the nerfs are coming
warrior is closer to top dps than to tank
what shall we do
void bay
warrior is closer to top dps than to tank
I've just switched to playing this class....what we need to do is keep moaning that the dps is too low
gusty nymph
I've just switched to playing this class....what we need to do is keep moaning t...
Yes yes. Get to the forum
tacit crystal
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