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Which is fel dev? That extra immo aura?
fel dev is the vengeance version of eyebeam
in shadowlands they added a legendary where a VDH comes to cast their own version of eye beam (fel dev)
its like a second guy
thats true uncapped
oh yeah thats another reason why auto crit is bad thing
Ah ok
you just get balanced around it hard
if they want eye beam to do 10% of your damage, it'll be 10% damage regardless of whether it auto crits or not
I like that everytime fel dev gets a buff for vengeance its also a buff for havoc

is that how it works
probably is lol
yee
knowing how the code works
they are the same
i see it in the trees
the alternatives suck balls
its elysian decree
you run hunt and fel dev
The definitely do not, at least not for aldrachi
oh doesnt aldrachi have some interaction with eating souls
Elysian pops a lot of souls
And hunt makes you get reavers glaive
fel scarred prob runs fel dev
Yeah possibly I have to check the builds
You know what’s funny
Warriors and dh have similar class tree
Cds at the end
Dps ones
I just checked, they do
dk doesnt
thats privilege
they have like 2 damage talents on the bottom
slappy and some str proc
Yeah that’s good tbh, I’d rather our talents be like that
Than 3 dps cds at the end
And they suck aside from avatar
Just remove them and add damage somewhere else
Too much aoe cds
also makes spec feel samey

Ofc when you get to 5 mins it won't cast with it again as not sync
So need to remember to actually pot.
RIP arms? :C
Curious how others open on a M+ pack playing Colo/ravager/mbg
I played around with different variations so just trying to compare
SS/ Ava roar/Warbreaker/Demolish/Ravager/ then cleave
its so annoying becuase everything is a global
clunky
Do you SS first to get the most abilities possible inside CD? To try and get a big cleave before WB ends?
I think I’m miss remembering the talent I thought CD had to be actual sweeped ST abilities
Or maybe I’m over thinking it and losing the one global of SS casting roar really doesn’t matter
Can you share your macro?
LEAVE ME IN MY BOWL WTFFFFF
11.1 patch notes leaked arms has been deleted now warrior has only 2 specs
That honestly wouldn't surprise me.
Arms has been renamed stumps
I try to delay a couple things to better line up that massive cleave. It's not that big of an issue to go either way. You'll see the 10 mil cleave or the 6 mil cleave. Adds up to pretty much equal in the end.
Arms deleted now only legs remain

Can somebody send the Ronnie Coleman gif with the Arms Warrior writing?
The lifting gif?
Is PTR down we getting a patch today?
Is it down?
Surely arms buffs today
No clue I've been up for 30 hrs and chillin in bed rn. I wonder if I sleep will I wake up to Colossus buffs.
colossus 45% MS BUFF TODAY
MANIFEST
how is he so FUCKING long
FAT
Chonker
We need a bet on wether or not Colossus is gonna get it's buff for the loss of exe CM before release or not
Yea
🦾
Mechagnome arm warrior
i dont see it happening
My money 100% on they shot Colossus in the other knee with no intention of doing anything else
we sim the same as our DK bros

wibble
It seems I’m headed toward enha prison again (I enjoy it)
Ok, my 45 mins of PT is now gonna be interrupted by my hour PT class.
🔫
colossus
@warped plume
Blizzard does that to arms every tier indeed
Smiling friends great show
.
Ahh thanks! Didn’t catch this msg till now
Bass boosted ofc
why bro bite
Orange
Ah I see we’re in the “gif spamming” phase of the usual coping

not everyone has the abilitiy to book time off from work 7 days in advance
also end of financial year in UK next month so EVERYONE wants match off
Well technically “I quit” is an option
😄

not when i cna't afford to pay sub
:ohno:
Buy year then quit
:wesmart:
go back 10th
nah i just want to get all the days i need booked off as got 13 days to take by end of march, longer i leave it harder to book off


blizzard heard by cry

So 3 weeks of tunning 
Time to get my mogs prepared!
He's a content creator, so it's his money
If you aren't making bread on content release, you're costing yourself
If you're in his shoes
isnt he absolutly irrelevant ?
Idk
man just wants to make a huge party but doesnt want to miss the first day of s2 clearly

best part of a patch is the first week
never see him do any useful stuff last time i saw him he was getting wasted on RWF stream
Lol
😂
I only watch quazii stuff and crit cake stuff so I have no idea what other creators are/aren't relevant in their circles
Jb is a M+ healer content creator
People like him for his “takes” on the game/blizzard
oh right i forgot he complain when he has to heal
and complain when there is no healer in m+
Yes that’s the guy 
So for 11.1 changes for us it was the 1 round of buffs then the random ass removal of execute reducing demolish cd right?
That's all I can remember
And the martial prowess reduction and bloodborne reduction?
2 rounds of buffs
and the execution of might
day 1 patch changes
with MS/cleave buff and MP got shot
Any more class balancing today?
🔮
Nothing announced yet
Any removal of target cap yet?
So just this? #updates-midnight message
Oh and talent tree of course
My brain is so muddled with other shit i forgot what all had come and gone with 11.1
For anyone using the sudden death conditions weakaura, I only use SD when I hear the ChaChing cash register noise?
I miss all the fun stuff.
Yes
its technically the best time to min / max dmg when you hear the kaching
its trying to keep juggy stack running as long as you can
sending it with 3 stack of pewpew or 2 of SD
You average vulpera
nibblers
Hey at least all the main skills damage buff is nice
Awwwwwww, that's so sad!
hi fishy
hi
do i play slayer or colo
real shit
play what u want
try to have fun
1 mountain thane, 1 slayer and 1 smf
i wish i could force them
often very based
"Peace was never an option. "
!!!!
@sacred zodiac 
Blizzard make jugger 5 stacks
@mental depot very GJ.
huehahaueueue
Hello car!!!
Lucy the Fennec Fox gets a huge playground. She loves to run and jump and play with her toys!
That means there will be times I let myself sit at 2 stacks of sudden death? And capping is ok because the KaChing is more important
it will kaching at 2SD stack
ohhh ok ty
NOOOO
Hh this is where the running gif is from

Why would it not be worth it
lunch check


Chicken and apple here
Amen
Indeed, lol. Super zoomies.
pineapples, minced beef, scrambled eggs, spring onions?
almost correct but its potatoes and not pineapple...
they were in the oven for 30mins
D:
i cant remember what country it was
did arms get buffed for 11.1?
No we’re the new Aug for this patch
do you mean this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYHAR8Xzsyo&ab_channel=MontyPropps
And... then I have my fish, and then I'll have my fish and ricecakes.... and then....
borgar
nah but same thing, its someone in a van talking about loving fish and potatoes
its a nordic person
like fin/danish or something
he will have... fish...
🏃♂️
mans eating the whole ocean
We did but then they got reverted 
Arms is below furu
Don't play arms
And fury is mid?
Just take your goofy aaa 2hs and have fun!
I dno i love arms
2 2hs
But current iteration isnt that enjoyable
Df was better
They didn't
Buffs are in
Simpler. But i prefered overflow of rage. Hmm tbh played best when ip worked for am and op
I didn't even like df arms that much but yeah
But im glad they changed it
Changes are coming. we ll use magical sword and kill everything in 2 blows while dancing around like balerinas... there is hope!!!!!
Hope is cope
Df arms solution, make reck on cs but give les rage
I like colossus arms in keys a lot, I just want some st adjustments and execute rage fix and I'm thrilled
I like the stam buff and the free bm torment coming
It was actually a fine interaction just to much rage
25% uptime on rexk was just ridcious
It made evrey cast of cs feel punchy
Yup
And that was really cool and felt like it gave us some identity
Yup
I still think half the problem overall is arms has like zero identity gameplay wise
...really warrior in general
well, we ll get an aura buff. better than nothing but still feel like a bandage on a wooden leg... it seems more like a temporary fix rather than a comprehensive solution.
I prefer when arms was slower paced
The rage economy in bfa felt great, didnt have to press a button every gcd but still did hard single target damage
I hate that every non leather class has an ABC mentality now
What is abc 
Always be casting
Nothing to arms this week ptr?
2 weeks to fix the spec
easy

cant wait for our next trademark 6-12% increase to keep the spec's head above water
Hey all, anyone know why the bladestorm damage on the sim is much higher than my actual? This is real-game DPS on a dummy versus a sim. 2min.
press the little arrow on the bladestorm in the sim
Wait it says tehre was 15 mortal strikes inside it for 9m damage. Does my details keep track of htat?
yep, there is your answer. details counts those as ms damage, logs count is as bs damage
ty!!
raidbots counts it as bs damage* (and maybe simc too, I haven't looked at the source code for that) - logs treat unhinged as a separate cast event of MS/BT and should include it in their damage the same way details does
Unhinged and other triggered casts are a real pain in the ass to handle nicely, so different applications probably do it differently
While details just stacks up spell ids sims are made to try keep the damage and triggers of those abilities together so its easier to bugcheck simc. Same as how you get like 3 versions of reap on sims under abilities but details it stacks them all
Do we have a post about the new raid items yet?
you mean like what our best trinkets are likely to be and stuff? if you just want to know what the items are, you can just check ptr
ptr is up tho
big red button 
do you have another instance of wow open?
Usually doesnt come up with that error if you do
Just logs you out of the other client
Were there even any ptr notes
Yea marksman cleave just got another 100% aura
I can't tell if you're fucking joking

unironically
reck and tom made it fun on st
cs + tom + ava overlap
was dopamine
nah
45% tom + cs +ava
- tom didnt matter in 10.2
it was within margin of error to ww in cs windows
i didnt mind tom
but rage spending if they want stuff to cost 20 is kinda shit
and with how good OP is to press
only time you can rapidly spend large amounts of rage consistent is exe
now str is weak and the tom values are nothin special
i was able to get 1 gcd of overlap on ptr with cs/tom
ptr gear is mega mast so more haste/crit probably help but dont think it would swing huge
i just wanna play colossus in raid for a tier tbh
Tom sucked because of ignore pain
Imo
Tom could be good if cs consumed rage and sudden death acted as if it consumed rage
Post IP ToM still sucked imo
I wake up to see no new tuning notes and a patch release date. Sad days
I did without realizing lol
fixed it
earlier
its legit just close 2nd instance
@fresh spire were good finally got a good Kyvezza parse on arms


why is an ele shaman bussin that hard in ST
Ele is very strong in st
is it? i wouldnt know i actively avoid specs that blizzard favours
Yes it bangs
Just giga bangs if u get procs
need casino warrior spec
Personally I can’t be mad at dps shamans, it’s a very cool class and not trivial
Also they aren’t at the top very often
I've seen it before
dh 
Dh has 2 specs only. If they had 3 specs we would be lowest
True, but still their 2 specs get fewnotes
im surprised dk was that low tbh
Imagine your class has only 2 specs and each of them gets less updates than specs for classes with 3 😭
Its funny that hpal got so many patch note lines and yet theyre horrible
Performance whatever, but the gameplay is so damn bad
It's not funny man
It's shit
This whole thing is shit
Where are the Arms changes

Arms kinda buns in m+ or am I crazy? Aoe feels fun but ST feels pretty bad 😦
is this a situation of a tree where it’s hard to do both aoe and st in the same build? I’m pretty new to the spec so maybe I just suck LOL
St bad when aoe good
Fury seems a bit more balanced when I try it but arms is so much more fun to me
Middle grounds pretty shit in colossus. Gets worse next patch

I’m swapping to warrior because I like protection and wanted to be able to fill in for one of our tanks who can’t make raid every 3 weeks due to work schedule. Arms is fun but like you said it feels tough to do reasonable ST in my dungeon build
Demolish go brr
I’ll give it a try though. Maybe it’s fun to use bladestorm. Still very new to warrior
Try everything, or just skip to the end:
Play Fury
Colo owns
Until u reach boss fight in keys 
just be based enough to do big first pull of any dungeon and ditch group after
Or Just pray for some changes 
Are there channels dedicated to ptr sims/tc here or does most of that just happen in the spec channels?
I've been coping for good changes since DF S3 PTR 
no tc or sim stuff happening in here sadly, mainly just spec discussion and shitposting
Oh god s3 sd procs were something else
We all coping for the interaction return
Slayer with the TC proc could actually bang if cleave was tuned down some
Posted about it in the forum post I made recently
surely comes back in 12.0
Cleave doesn't need that much tuning for slayer
im curious if SD TC is not here because of slayer
Yeah
they got scared
Mainly colossus issue as it has like 35% more from tree
its just a numbers thing
nah, but you dont get the same amount of SD procs as colo
idk if making TC an actual button for colo could slap
Cleave damage on sims though is astronomical higher for base damage in colossus
Doubt it. I think the set is not far enough away to where it gets a talent
Isnt it also pressed a lot more in comparison
Both have highest priority when not factoring bladestorms channel time. Got to remember reap makes up a good chunk of slayer cleave damage aswell compared to colussus one always hitting 35% harder from the 2 hero talents before extra scaling like seismic/mbg
And they said they didn't want cleave to be invasive
Meanwhile it is the aoe DMG of the spec
Of course when u have things like mbg/collateral and seismic
Im ok with cleave being The button for aoe, I Just dont know Why things like SoS exist
idk what to play S2 
Maybe I’m goofy but I actually like cleave being the big hitter

Maybe just tone it back some to give bleeds more power
Id rather it just be mortal strike than having 1 button totally replace everything else
Or Dreadnaught some more power
I cant decide between warrior, monk, or evoker
Always pick warrior
Based chad class
I gotta fight the other 3 in raid for gear though
Thats what my friend said 
Aoe rn is just keep this button on cool down
What you do between cleave casts doesn't matter a ton
Just press it every time it's available
Is arms doing well? I like arms more then fury like spec wise
Unfortunately fury is tuned higher
So unless they buff us
It’ll be a fury tier again
Well
darn guess i gotta get the carpal tunnel ready
If you care about min maxing for the team
A lot of people will just play arms anyway
Also keep in mind that the ptr tuning isn’t live yet
Could change at anytime before launch
I had the most insane pi/lust pull last night in a 10 CoT after 2nd boss
Guy pulled the whole room practically like 20 targets
Insane cleave reset rng
It was a good dopamine rush
more arms dps please
Amen
Ian has a Costa coffee
Chance for arms update today?

Potentially.
There is a new build on the vendor side of ptr
So maybe buff build

Though
It's just pressing this button on CD tho there's not much to do w arms aoe


I mean ravager sweeping tech is probably the most technical thing to it

And that's just bug
Dude casting ravager after demolish instead of using ravager to build demolish stacks was the best tip!
Maddox 🧠
Cleave smokes during MBG


I do enjoy hitting those 16m cleaves when the stars align on cool downs.
Seeing that number pop up made my monkey brain wiggle neurons of joy.
To much shit happening for me to pay attention to dmg numbers I just play with that shit pretty much off
I do actually a weakaura but I still never pay attention to it xd
I wish I had money to race swap my warrior I chose Human cause I was a fool 
Just buy that stuff on AH
oh the masks?
Yeah
thats true but idek if imma play warrior we already have 2 for raid
Do you have a recommendation?
I like this one personally
Turn all damage numbers off
yo
I actually played like that almost all of this season up until like two weeks ago
It makes a positive difference for me having them off
I have played like that since beta
Its just less screen clutter, it does make a difference imo
Hey random question, I’ve always wondered what those tags are next to people’s names?
Discord Guild, basically a community tag that redirects you to their discord.
Oh interesting so anybody can make one
Yes, only downside is that it has a limit to the number of people that can join.
Looks cool, worth it
So what exactly is the proper execute rotation, because I'm kinda finding mixed information
Is it spam execute until you have 2 stacks of executioner's precision and 2 stacks of lethal blows? Is it spam execute but press MS on cooldown? Is it Ex > Ex > Op > MS?
So when should I mortal strike, only when I'm 2 stacked on both buffs?
Yea
Which is the best test dummy to practice Arms on? The Kelpfist raider dummy in Dornogol always starts at random HP and makes it impossible to compare to a 2min test dummy sim
BFA dummy are probably best for this
ty!!!
Word, I tried that rotation recently and it felt like I did way less damage than before when I did other priorities. I was probably losing damage somewhere else then. Thanks!
variance is also a thing
you should plan ahead
always
the more aware you are about mechanic
the better you will perform
Just heroic leap out of it
i get more pissed off when the mob walks 1 pixel out of range and your demolish cancels
Yeah I genuinely don't care about the whole "can't walk" thing as much as I hate the "aiming/target" aspec of it
Should've been a frontal cone and done
American Psychological Association
This
Jump forward before cast 
Maybe we ll get something in the new build….
Surely
3% aura buff
What if they made it so when you are mid demolish channel your character glues itself to the bosses hit box
Imagine the comedy from that

ptr build came up
where buffs
tooltip damage from ms
FISHY
has gone from 759k to 1.2m
FISHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
HOW MUCH

Artierial buffed to 5% from 3
that's a big MS buff.
+5% to MS/cleave
The new animation is just so dog shit bro wtf!?!?!?
we don't care until arms gets reworked
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
kill the spec
Demolish looks like its straight up been buffed like 60%
WHAT
swear old hit was 1.5m
this is on live
Wait why am I shaking fish
im on about previous build
We loves him
Notes out
WHERE
:holy
HUH
wait what
LINK
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
where is that from ?
HOLY
He made it himself
ptr development notes, check blue tracker
source: voices in ur head
Hollyy!!
whirlwing buff also applies to cleave since it replaces it right?
nah
Yes
Make it 50
WIN WIN WIN WIN
OMG this is so good to be truth 
HOLYYYY
wow arms just got juiced
Ptr about to be popping tonight!
Arms my beloved I dont have to play fury 
Amen
CRACKED changes
please god no 
We are so back 
THEY NERFED ENHANCE 
Arms literally the minute blizzard sees we’re happy
you are telling me this is real ?
this is blizz devs trolling us
Buff Arms, Nerf Enhance

glad y'all are happy.
cant believe it
cant wait to get nerfed 3 weeks in
we just sandbag hard during raid
It’ll happen before season starts don’t worry
some1 tell the RWF guilds to sandbag war dps
Hello fellow arms mains,
welcome back bois!
am I..excited to play arms..??
I think this buff is too small
we're so back 🙏
UwU hello
Arterial bleed 5% per stack, we play this now in keys (idk im just guessing
).
heyy whats good are u ready to do some overpowering and some mortal striking
I will do so much Overpowering and Mortal Striking and also Executing every third GCD because this spec is fucked hahahaaa
very based
Guys is this real
Cleave is getting a 5% buff on Colossus and it's very dominant on AoE, One against many is too good to not take for keys
yeah you're right
hello arms players, i come from the fury bois. how you feelin about the buffs?
my tier is 730 ilvl on ptr?
number squish when
warrior exclusive
for 6/6 myth track. checks out.
secret buff
this is what it's supposed to be
i promise. it checks out 😛
big executes
LMAO

@olive nest As soon as I come back to warrior these drop
Arms tier arms tier
I was just pinged by like 9 people in our guild. Arms is back.
@fresh spire we love you.
3m MS on CD colossus
not minmaxxing ravager windows with execute or anything
just if MS is off CD you press it
how do you do fellow Arms warriors
just saw your vid madox and you got me HYPED
pls dont tell me we go collosus on ST 
please god
i wanna play that

Hell yeah good time to be an arms enjoyer
Show gear
Love u
52% mastery as arms 

wait he is fury with 1 weapon
God damn that weapon is badass

We dance in joy for 2 weeks!
nobody do heroic dungeons from the 25th to 4th
we so back (surely
🫡
ill have more info as soon as ptr is pushed to Simc
Arterial bleed in st and aoe 🙏
Arms > fury?
I geared my mage not realising we have a fishy in this discord
Arms = fury
2x buffs
wait a sec i just read this
https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-1-ptr-class-tuning-development-notes-for-february-12th-all-tank-damage-370270
are these even newer buffs to what we have in the updates channel?
bruhhhhhhhhhhhh i am not falling for this surely shaman will stay meta
Enhance for sure still S tier
is there more raidtesting to come ?
😂
not enough
it is
Enh was easily 15% ahead of everything else before these nerfs
so theyre still very good
in theory with the latest chances is arms on par with fury or who is ahead ? i really want to paly arms but if its way behind i wont. :/
It was on par before the buffs already
They are gonna be close now
Yes
Most of the enh nerfs are in aoe and a talent that nobody takes
20% to every button basically
You could def run an arms comp in keys now
It’s probably borderline S tier
In terms of raw dps
Cause evoker and shaman got nerfed
Let's keep the cope until patch releases
Shaman nerf is whatever tho
i feel like shaman nerf isnt going to be a super big deal.
It isnt
ok relax
A-tier at most
Will be good in a melee comp tho
WW is looking decent, paired with arms thats yummy
Monk enh arms
Arms
Mortal Strike damage increased by 20%.
Overpower damage increased by 20%.
Execute damage increased by 20%.
Slam damage increased by 20%.
Whirlwind damage increased by 40%.
Colossus
All Demolish damage increased by 30%.
Practiced Strikes increases Mortal Strike and Cleave damage by 20% (was 15%).
Arterial Bleed increases Rend and Deep Wounds damage by 5% per stack of Colossal Might (was 3%).
Slayer
Opportunist increases the damage and critical strike damage of your next Overpower by 25% (was 20%).

ithink these are todays class tuning
Perhaps you wanna read the chat before posting
But yes
theyve been posted like 6 times XD
9m demolish crit? ill take it
oh god sorry guys just was too hyped lol
How much dps did you have?
Shamans still critting higher than our hero talent ability 
not much, a bit above 2.5m, it was yolo run with lots of deaths
kill blue class
they also buffed dreadnaught?
dont kill blue class. JOIN blue class.
water blue guy gets a pass
slam actually worth pressing now
is this MS buff separate from the previous one? so its been buffed by 20% twice?
Or am I misunderstanding
Indeed separate
Waiting on arch TLDR 😁
I'm just being honest
I got 11m one
is this with 730 gear?
neat
We back bois?
What the actual fuck guys don’t post this shit
IS very good too with colo
Sandbag is the word
3 boss
We are so close 🥹
I mean arms was already pumping in keys
so it's probably gonna be S tier if people play with a good one on ptr
the average random arms player tho won't be S tier
we need to keep dan off warrior tho
it was focused on ST
any numbers yet regarding today's buffs?

sandbag
Send build
smh
standard one
oh geez...arch has such good timing!
Man I'm so glad I took an involuntary "just don't want to play, warhammer is more fun" break in s1. Just ready to slap shit in s2 again 😄
11 mil cleave 😄
more like an hour late, I was asleep 
Archi how much is arms buff? ~10-15%?
no worries. I appreciate everything you do for the community. Do we know the overall impact of today's buffs?
they're roughly a buff
Sounds like we need more buffs.
I know this is arms but happened with fury’s TB?

They added another effect on top of the two already affecting it
Ask tomorrow, I’m going back to bed
I’m not sure I understand but ok
you can say that with just about anyone who doesnt play a class well
🫰
I heard you like effects, so now you can stack effects on effects!
well not really



