arms

[opaque anchor]

"improved slam " 😉

[tacit crystal]

call it execute

🙂

[teal fossil]

But there’s always going to be a worst filler

[olive nest]

big smack

[steep osprey]

Anyone knows why warrior always needs buffs in ptr before new patch

ALWAYS

Meanwhile there’s specs that need nerfs

Bozo shit

[tacit crystal]

tuned poorly

i actually have a screenshot about this

[dim basalt]

More like designed poorly

[opaque anchor]

talent tree is weak

we had the same shit happen in MoP: Arms got buffs to all spells each patch because 2ndary ratings and more ilvl didn't help

[opaque anchor]

then you get a high baseline for the patch and at the end of the gearing process you are once again midfield

[dim basalt]

Why does that name ring a bell

[olive nest]

Delliroll

🤔

[tacit crystal]

that guy stupid either way

[dim basalt]

A from the sham discord

[sacred zodiac]

what server is this

[tacit crystal]

🐉

[sacred zodiac]

king server

[tacit crystal]

i like talking to the populus of the augmus

the mods are chill

[dim basalt]

I imagine aug players to be chill

[sacred zodiac]

thats pretty woke

[tacit crystal]

spongie

give us woke mind virus

[olive nest]

Woke nonsense!!

[dim basalt]

Im not sure if I ever had a bad experience with any class discord

[daring heron]

season 3 soon right

when is it again

[sacred zodiac]

you already have it

[icy mulch]

Who knows?

[tacit crystal]

wtf

mods

[daring heron]

[tacit crystal]

gm critcake

[daring heron]

gm gio

[tacit crystal]

goat latest video

[daring heron]

thank you

[icy mulch]

At least "The Skeleton Crew" doesn't suck.

[tacit crystal]

I need to watch you play the ff7 remakes

But I have to filter through all of the yt vods

[icy mulch]

I'm about to play some Beat Saber. You can watch that.

[daring heron]

yeeeah

i didn't play ff7 remake on stream

but rebirth i did

[tacit crystal]

Probably just make a playlist of the vods

[daring heron]

prolly smart actually

should use playlist more often

i mean i dont use it at all atm

[sacred charm]

What’s the best website to use for a guide? Archon, u.gg or is it simply wowhead?

[tacit crystal]

The only problem is some of the vods have keys and ff

[daring heron]

yee

[tacit crystal]

wowhead and icyveins are written by same person, maxroll is written by revvez ( warrior in echo)

[olive nest]

IMO read and compare all of the reputable ones

Each one could relay the information in a way you interpret easier

[severe haven]

^ guides moreso serve as guidelines rather than rules of law

[tacit crystal]

For learning no

0 point to deviate until you understand the rules

[dim basalt]

archon and u.gg are useless

[olive nest]

For basic learning I would suggest wowhead because arch is also active here and you can ask about misunderstandings you have

[weak rain]

They should just make SKS rage gen hasted ability imo

or make it something crazy like your bleeds have 100% critchance and are 100% hasted during its duration to make it more exciting

[olive nest]

They should make the animation spew armor out of the head of the mob and throw a bunch of weapons around

That’d probably make it cooler

[vague nova]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Oh gross they didn’t need to be that big

[shadow ibex]

SkS CD used to be hasted

[olive nest]

Imagine Ava, cs, roar, bs, sks, sweep all tied to AM
And cdr from am made them sync every time

[dim basalt]

sks cd being hasted sounds disgusting tho

At least the current iteration of it

[charred brook]

what if bladestorm could sweep

holy

[quaint otter]

would be peak

[charred brook]

ava tied to AM feels maybe op

[olive nest]

It would be insane

Imagine M+ too with that

[dim basalt]

So exactly what arms needs

[charred brook]

lmao

[olive nest]

We’d be like a flatline 30 second ret with giga execute power

🤯

[tacit crystal]

it just sounds like you want to play outlaw...

[olive nest]

Been there done that

They ruined it since SL imo

I was a big fan of the blunderbuss play style in the for fun season

[silk spade]

so true

been saying that for years

[tacit crystal]

hi zhai

[lethal vale]

Man I’m a new arms warrior and maybe I’m just easily amused but I swear cleave is the most satisfying ability in the entire game

[olive nest]

It do be good

[shadow ibex]

Hasted SkS doesn't work now yea

But current iteration also eats ass

[rare kite]

demowarlock implosion

[steep osprey]

Imploding 20 imps after cds is one of the most satisfying things ever

I can’t think of a more satisfying ability

[tacit crystal]

I can

blow up

[silk spade]

festering scythe

[trim lintel]

afflock seed of corruption during legion

[steep osprey]

No

[silk spade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/998100858829021196/1322739026918375464/caption.gif

[tacit crystal]

hola

[steep osprey]

I don’t know how to explain Implosion, it just has this weight behind it that very little abilities do

Demolish is pretty close

[silk spade]

cause you can visually feel the effect and the damage being done cause it's so much

like hammer of light

[steep osprey]

Yeah hammer of light is one

Also obliterate with exterminate

[shadow ibex]

And new warbreaker

Wait no

[wooden lava]

Arms is up

it's joever

@fresh spire if u want me to try a build, lmk

[steep osprey]

[charred brook]

okay dude

coc intermission visually

is making me want to puke

[steep osprey]

COC

[tacit crystal]

@charred brook do you have 20 people

[charred brook]

ye

u wanna watch

[tacit crystal]

i wanted to play

😦

[rich ridge]

I learned how to plays arms last night lol

[charred brook]

oh 😦 sry

[tacit crystal]

do you guys explode as soon as you get to the intermission

[charred brook]

no

[rich ridge]

Did 1.8m overall in +10 SV

[charred brook]

go to banshers stream u can watch

[rare kite]

i can. you spend alot of time building up a shit ton of imps, you literally see them flying. the explosion is visable and the damage is insane, all of these combine into an extremely satisfying ability

[icy mulch]

@tacit crystal Tool songs I can get maps for: Vicarious, Sober, Pneuma, Maretu (not sure if the last one is a Tool song or not).

[steep osprey]

That’s true

[severe haven]

Is the sweeping strikes bug fixed on the ptr? Forgot to check today

[zenith warren]

what could cause ert to constantly show note mismatch? every fkn pull

[icy mulch]

I don't know if this was linked here, but man this needs more attention.
Blizzard, hire this man. He gets Warrior animations.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/new-arms-warrior-animations/2052417/28

[wooden lava]

No seriously

Arms is up

[shadow ibex]

just gotta hope no one else gets buffed in the 4/5 incoming tuning passes between now and mythic

easy

[wooden lava]

Boomkin is literal king

so idk about that

but if you set an arms warrior loose on the boss and just let it go to town, it does some real shit

if we somehow manage to make fatality work, it's going to be heinous

[charred brook]

is imgur down for anybody else lol

i tried to open the link he put

nvm its a vpn issue

[sharp wyvern]

bigest question is now that these ghosts weapons hit the target from 3 directions can it still get parried ?

cause if it can my immersion will be ruined

[fresh spire]

it can

[sharp wyvern]

[shadow ibex]

yea someone post that in the thread about the apperance

how bout removing the parry flag

if they wanna touch up CS/WB that'll go about 100000% further

[fresh spire]

Too much work. Too busy making sure shaman are goat spec again (aug(

[zenith warren]

when was hit rating removed? like 15y ago? kek

[shadow ibex]

wod

[zenith warren]

melee opression

[shadow ibex]

or nah mop

ider if mop had reforging

[icy mulch]

Pfft, those weapons are falling away from the shattered armor. What are you talking about?

[eager sigil]

mop still had it

wod prepatch removed it

and we got multistrike and stuff

[zenith warren]

this isnt unusual to be bottom dps as arms on queen p1?

[eager sigil]

i mean yea

unless alot of sd procs

[marsh needle]

Arms Hidden Artifact quest is up today!

in NA that is

[tall steeple]

spare me for these 2 potentially lazy questions: 1. on a m+ boss fight (ST), am i prioritizing cleave instead of mortal strike while ravager is up, due to bonegrinder? 2. do i always try to fit demolish during Warbreaker/CS even if it's not max stacks, or only use max stacks whether in warbreaker/cs or not

(returning from a pretty long break from warrior and in general)

[charred brook]

man some of these fight tests on ptr the timing feels so weird

theres definitely some holding CD moments it seems

[halcyon valve]

Only cleave with collateral
Mortal strike big

[icy mulch]

Which one?

[eager sigil]

theres only 1

think you just talk to a dude in skyhold

[icy mulch]

I prolly have it, I have a lot of the artifact appearances from when it was live.

[eager sigil]

this you didnt get on accident probably

only spawns like once a month

[icy mulch]

It was one of the Strom'kar? Which color?

screw it, I'll just jump to skyhold

[icy mulch]

Ah, yeah I have those already

[tacit crystal]

what is a hideen artifact quest

[quaint otter]

smh i have it without doing quest

maybe pvp one

[dire hinge]

oh hi friend

[tacit crystal]

hi hrothmar

[dire hinge]

hi gio! i hope today is treating you well

[rare kite]

hrothy you coming back to the game next patch? iirc you're on a break

[dire hinge]

been playing, but not in a meaningful capacity. Next patch im gonna step down from raid and focus more on dungeons + helping in the discord more

IRL just got wicked busy over the winter holidays

[rare kite]

i see, the dungeons are looking way better than s1(imo) so good season to focus on dungeons

[dire hinge]

yeah! I just need more schedule flexibility throughout the week and raid was hard to schedule around. Dungeons let me have that back

[lean geode]

Are the dungeons themselves good, or just the M+ changes in general? Dungeon pool seemed kinda cheeks but I haven't tried them on PTR

[dire hinge]

changes seem good, dungeon pool isn't the worrrrst

[rare kite]

both imo. the dungeon changes are very nice, darkflame cleft minecart portion is still poopoo tho

i haven't tested motherlode personally, but used to own in bfa atleast. maybe someone else can give info whether motherload is good or not

[dire hinge]

i liked it back in the day, idk

was a very consistent dungeon last time it had M+

[lean geode]

I played bfa for like 2 weeks and I remember really disliking motherlode

[untold trench]

Motherlode had tons of fun pulls - it was all about getting used to the dungeon and just slapping the "eee you pulling too much!" guy on ignore.

[brittle fiber]

anyone's bnet bugging? im getting CAS error and when i restarted bnet, nothing's updating

god this client is trash

[fathom shoal]

no problems here when i did the update

[brittle fiber]

whack

not even warcraft 3's updating

[lean geode]

The update gets stuck sometimes, try restarting PC and close discord

[wooden lava]

@woven wasp what do u think about colossus in M+ with battlelord?

with the new tier

I'm thinking of testing on PTR

[quasi torrent]

check if the user permission for the wow folder are read&write

or if theyre restricted

bnet sometimes fails to unlock the folder after updating

[woven wasp]

no idea man

[wooden lava]

cook me up something

[woven wasp]

im not the arms guy idk whats going on with it

[wooden lava]

all good, dungeons aren't even up..

[lean geode]

Is it an AM Thane angle for fury keys pausechamp

[quaint otter]

its big

[lean geode]

We love AM thane

Big clappa

[quaint otter]

arms am thane

4 am

ig brown class just not allowed to play keys

[lean geode]

Real

[minor gust]

getting declined for a +10 just be 640 ilvl and 3.5k io scrub

[quaint otter]

well im 639

fair

[minor gust]

[silk spade]

noob

[quaint otter]

skill issue 😦

[dire hinge]

[rare kite]

i think RA is probably the play right now

[lean geode]

RA Thane so clunky maaaaaaaan

[wooden lava]

lmfaoooooo

bro they really told u to take your brown ass down to the trash bin

spit

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-spit-gif-26415294

[untold trench]

Why bring warrior, when you can bring real DPS class to make the key faster?

[quaint otter]

Yeah id rather take the fire mage who will deal insane 1.4kk overall

[dire hinge]

but also: Cleave go brr

[quaint otter]

Cleave me daddy

Wait what

[dire hinge]

[minor gust]

[wooden lava]

[lethal vale]

Is it looking like Colossus is king on AoE? Or slayer btr?

[dire hinge]

until the patch itself launches it's all up in the air

can literally sneak stuff in the day before

both are pretty cozy to play

[teal fossil]

hard to say

the execute change to clossus is rough

harder to farm back another demolish for next pack

[quaint otter]

i just cant believe

they nerf a medium performing spec

oh wait nvm i can

[lethal vale]

Eh, to be honest I pretty consistently can reduce its cooldown by 15 seconds and past that point it’s pretty much useless because you should always wait for sweeping strikes to use it tbh

Though I could be wrong about that…

[teal fossil]

Still

Having a fully stacked demolish for next pack

Or just farm it off cd

Is very nice for m+

[balmy kindle]

People still doing 10s

Just chill for S2

[lethal vale]

Yes, tbh I think if it gets fully stacked it should just instantly come off cooldown. Would make the spec so much more reactive

[teal fossil]

Yeah for sure we want to get demolish up every 10 globals

For sure that wont devalue the spell

[lethal vale]

Fair enough, it’s just sucky having max stacks on an ability you can’t use

[teal fossil]

That’s why they let you get cdr once you cap

[quaint otter]

i have no games to play

[balmy kindle]

There's a ton of good games out though, gonna play kingdom come deliverance 2 my self

Not much to do in wow outside of plunder storm transmog ( alr done) and maybe siren isle transmog farm ( too lazy)

[stone marsh]

Which change?

[quaint otter]

doesnt give demo stacks

[wooden lava]

I would like to give my heartfelt thanks to the warrior dev

for making colossus such an unenjoyable piece of shit experience in single target

like you need to have transcendent levels of talent to design a playstyle

that bad

vibing in trash pulls no problem

soon as I pull up to a boss

👿 🔫

legit me playing colossus ST on an M+ boss

[balmy kindle]

You don't like running out of rage

[wooden lava]

runnign out would imply I HAD ANY IN THE FIRST PLACE

I had no critical thinking in that run

holy fuck I've never hated execute more in my life

oh and the kicker was

pink class was just facerolling his keyboard

dumpstering me

[balmy kindle]

It's mostly critical thinking being the culprit imo, honestly I am of the side that they should just have CT baseline or replace execute for colossus

Really annoying to press 1 execute and see rage bar go poof

[tall steeple]

do i always try to fit demolish during Warbreaker/CS even if it's not max stacks, or only use max stacks whether in warbreaker/cs or not. That question is both for st and aoe

[balmy kindle]

Ideally you wanna get off demolish asap when it's stacked, obviously if you have cs and warbreaker up short you can line it up but you shouldn't be holding it for more than 1-2 globals

[tall steeple]

okay, so using it at 10 takes prio over during warbreaker

thanks

[quaint otter]

also funny to see 30% diff in st between colo and slaver

[quaint otter]

u will always take it to 10 during wb window if u have ss

and u usually hold demo for ss

better hold if wb is like 10 sec off imo

am goes hard

just what the hell

[untold trench]

Why you shocked when it happens on the regular?

[quaint otter]

why i shouldnt be

balls

[untold trench]

Have you tried shaman?

[quaint otter]

its instainvite even in 13

[finite wasp]

i know that feeling my warrior

thats gonna change next season

[rare kite]

You mean the season after when we get our rework

[finite wasp]

[bleak fog]

Patch 20.1.99

For sure

[untold trench]

Ya ppl complain as if we didn't get insta invited the whole of the first month. We had our time

[gusty oxide]

I mean, yeah, but it only happens the first month of the first season of an expansion.

SOmetimes, for sure, we have a tier where we shine outside of that, but that's an exception, not the norm.

[wooden lava]

yo i fucking hate funky

i swear

they have to be like an enhance shaman player who just comes here to troll

[dim basalt]

Should have pushed +17s in the first month to secure title

[astral yarrow]

he just loves Odyns Fury WCYD

[wooden lava]

your leg could be chopped off

and he'd say some shit like

"well at least you weigh less now"

or some shit

[astral yarrow]

Positive outlook on life beats doomposting

[wooden lava]

it's not even positive

[astral yarrow]

Wonder if losing a leg would have a positive effect on BMI actually

[wooden lava]

it's something along the shades of "be okay with being mediocre"

no shot, your blood supply goes down

total amount of nutrients free flowing in your body

[astral yarrow]

medeiocre is better than bottom

but somehow enh has been flying too close to the sun for 4 months and somehow lived

[wooden lava]

i can't think of anything worse than colossus arms

I'm really TRYING to play arms man

and then I fight a boss in the dungeon and my will to live jumps off a cliff

[astral yarrow]

colossus is fine as long as cleave is your priority

then you make it to a boss

[wooden lava]

trash is fun times

[astral yarrow]

just do low keys and boss dies within CDs

[dim basalt]

I only feel that way if theres no shaman for skyfury

That makes me miserable

[wooden lava]

then I enter the CBT chamber of "Colossus Single Target"

[wooden lava]

I only doompost when I play the game

at least mt fury kinda gives a reprieve

[faint harness]

Hey there

New here

[brittle fiber]

Hey new

[faint harness]

Someone can tell me how a corean player can beat the timer on raider.io with an exotic build xdddd

[brittle fiber]

There here

timer for what

[faint harness]

Mm+

[thick kelp]

U mean the boosted china guy

[faint harness]

U mean ppl can be boosted at +19... Dont think so

Just coreans are not mind fucked by meta i guess

[thick kelp]

Ur thinking wrong

he is playing along

doing tank dps in overall

if u check his logs

unless u mean another person

since u keep saying korean

[gusty oxide]

There are no koreans in the top warriors on raider.io

only CN

[faint harness]

Oh right sry its a Chinese one

Im stunnished about the fact ppl can be pl at this lvl of key

Or maybe he's the god of arms warrior

[dim basalt]

Yeah no lmao

Not with tank dps

[rare kite]

He's playing a really garbage build. Definetely getting boosted

[dim basalt]

CN tends to like warrior more than the western regions but theres no particular reason for that

[magic canopy]

hes just boosted as shit

they also probably used every exploit in the book

raidbuffs, emerald buff

ect ect

[rare kite]

It's insane that you can get boosted on such a high key tho

[magic canopy]

to be able to boost that

[dim basalt]

I mean hes not griefing

[thick kelp]

I mean he obviously still plays along yk

[magic canopy]

nah theres some crazy external shit you can bring in

[thick kelp]

its just his build is astronomically ass

him doing tank overall still helps alot

over doing 0dps

[rare kite]

Yuh

[magic canopy]

if he was afk prob couldnt time

but they might just leave him dead on boss aoes

but yeah you just bring insane damage comp. then bring in exploited buffs

you can walk in with full raid buffs and like a stacking 30% damage buff or some shit

which probably how they timed those keys

[astral yarrow]

stunnished might be my new favorite word

[faint harness]

But we have no clue about that. And he played with just another one dps. U cant be booster just with an enhancement and aug

[thick kelp]

Yes u can

👍

and like I said, he did play along, doing tank dps

[dim basalt]

I mean what do you want us to say, we can literally check his logs and tell hes not good

[faint harness]

Link logs please

[astral yarrow]

copy his r.io name and search for it on wcl 👍

[runic tartan]

Honestly does anyone like the new animation for warbreaker/CS? Why do they do this weird sht

[thick kelp]

or just open his rio page and click the wcl icon

[dim basalt]

Surely he is not getting boosted right

[faint harness]

Did it

[astral yarrow]

well done

[faint harness]

But we can only see +15 key

Not +19

[thick kelp]

Theres some 17's i think

in his logs

[dim basalt]

Whats the difference

Of him not doing damage in +15 and +19

[thick kelp]

and his aug evoker who he plays with logs alot

you can go dig for him in the augs logs

[faint harness]

Huge difference between boost +15 and +19. Just curious to see how dps enhance can do to boost his mate

[dim basalt]

The same they do it in a +15

The less dps warrior does, the more enh can do

[faint harness]

Yes but there are lots of dps check on +19 bosses and u know that

[astral yarrow]

this is a weird hill to try to die on

[runic tartan]

Bottom line is just, he got boosted and while he may have done sht dps, there is no guarentee he did sht utility or died every pull. He could have played the key flawless and helped a lot with interrupts etc. Logs dont say that

[vast surge]

Lads, Ladies... is the slayer opener in M+ still

Charge > TC > Cleave > CS > AV+TR > BS > SS

??

[faint harness]

Maybe SS right before BS to MS everything

[thick kelp]

Charge > TC > Cleave > TR+AV > SS > CS > BS

[vast surge]

Unhingee still doesn't work with SS right?

[faint harness]

Yes

So much

[vast surge]

cheers

anyone got the WA for marked for execution?

I've been looking on Wago but the one there wasn't working for me

[thick kelp]

what type of mfe wa

[vast surge]

i remember there was one that would show the hunters mark symbol icon and would play a sound when to spend your SD execute if you had 3 stacks of marked

or do we just send SD without worrying about it?

Saw it in a video by Shirly the Bandit but he's removed the link to WA so I'm not sure what's up

[thick kelp]

https://wago.io/9n9GqeQ6-

this just goes kaching

when to use sd

[vast surge]

cool thanks

[snow flame]

[astral yarrow]

[olive nest]

kaching

[minor gust]

My brain hear and my finger press

[untold pewter]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/new-arms-warrior-animations/2052417/17

[untold pewter]

This doesn't work anymore right?

They removed the ability for BS MS to cleave with SS

Or am I misremembering?

[dim basalt]

I remember reading that the MS dont cleave but you still get the stacks for CD

[untold pewter]

Yup there you go
#updates-midnight message

[lethal vale]

In a two target scenario with sweeping strikes up is it worth it to cleave? I know in classic cleave + sweeping “bounces” between the two enemies and they get hit twice with the same cleave, is that still the case?

[woven wasp]

no

[high canopy]

anyone have a good talent build to trial for M+ on the ptr?

[shadow ibex]

You still get demo stacks idk about cd

[vague nova]

If I’m rolling jug stacks in m+ between packs does it ever take more prio in my aoe rotation? Obviously to keep the stacks up and don’t overcap SD, but does it ever pass mortal during SS or capped OP charges? Or should I not worry about it and just keep stacks up and spend on 2SD prove

Procs

[olive nest]

I always try to maintain jug stacks if they’re about to drop no matter what

I like to sit on a SD charge as long as I can to help maintain jug stacks assuming I’m not burning mark stacks or overcapping sd charges

Also assumes the mobs are not in execute range yet*

[icy mulch]

Yeah, I don't think I could put up with that in M+. Especially in the PUG environment.

[coral crescent]

people are playing jugg in m+?

[dim basalt]

In higher keys yeah

[olive nest]

Can play colo too

Biz has done like 17s or even higher as colo

Haven’t checked arms keys in a bit

[hazy flower]

no theyre not

[dim basalt]

Oh youre right, Im misremembering something

[coral crescent]

? xd

[vague nova]

I do it for fun because I hate myself

But never in mists or COT

[olive nest]

I find colo to be the most fun

[dull siren]

Well well well

[olive nest]

Over 10M spikes in AoE is fun!

[untold trench]

You know warrior is in a sad state, when 10m spikes is deemed as a fun moment

For reference, 620 shaman gets 12m burst spikes on 5 targets

[vague nova]

620? My 605, albeit hero spymaster from cache and lust, can hit 12m on dummies with good rng

It’s fucking insane and I hate it

[untold trench]

Better nerf warrior burst

[quaint otter]

[severe haven]

I played this spec a lot today

I have the slightest (yet Existant) amount of copium in me that they will make this spec work better before patch

[shadow ibex]

I don't now that tuning started

[untold trench]

Why dont I get a notification when you poke me

[shadow ibex]

Maybe increase proc rate on 4pc cuz it seems lower than tooltip

[eager sigil]

shift click the reply button

good feature tbh

[untold trench]

Wonder why it is on tho
Still nice tech to have

No more Gio pings

[untold trench]

boop

[quaint otter]

[untold trench]

I understand how it works, it is my choice to ping

[quaint otter]

[untold trench]

thought I could escape the pings

I was wrong

[quaint otter]

[untold trench]

I got it set to only mentions

still pings my ass

[vast surge]

[quaint otter]

but its the poimnt

[untold trench]

@quaint otter and reply is the same thing in the system, I guess

[lethal vale]

What’s wrong with it? Tuning still too low even after buffs?

[thick kelp]

class working does not always means numbers good

On paper arms numbers are good

[tacit crystal]

hi

@strange perch hi

[severe haven]

Bastardized rotation, a kit that's been left a little behind in the current times

And Demolish

[vast surge]

https://tenor.com/view/kirk-khan-rage-angry-furious-gif-17318456

But I’m yelling DEMOLISH

We hates it. Filthy demolishes.

[olive nest]

The only major gripe I have with demolish is the fact that it will completely miss if the target is moved after you cast

I know it isn’t thematic but they should just force the damage to occur as long as you cast it while the target is within range

[thick kelp]

@tacit crystal hi

[silk spade]

the fact that demolish is not a frontal is criminal

[vast surge]

The fact that it can even fail to go off

[olive nest]

That sounds good too

[coral crescent]

yeah if you have a tank wiggling too much and you're demolishing but then... whiff

[tacit crystal]

hi

[coral crescent]

[silk spade]

salutations

[quasi torrent]

the fact that demolish and slayer and thane exist is criminal

[silk spade]

yeah this class is ass

[quasi torrent]

hunter on the 4th hero class rework

warrior:

lets add some more casino

[silk spade]

dk hero talents are goated

[vast surge]

[steep osprey]

warrior looking at hunter like

[severe haven]

Make demo castable while moving

No joke

[steep osprey]

make demonology castable while moving

i agree

[vast surge]

Demo stonks going up

[coral crescent]

omg that's hilarious

[timber lynx]

Aff better

[vast surge]

Destro is the best

[steep osprey]

[cloud hare]

The new animation makes demolish faster, but the range of the skill is still an issue

[olive nest]

Idk man the last afflock in a 13 SoB I attempted did 1.1M overall

[vast surge]

Feel like demolish was a missed opportunity to do the evoker charged ability

[lethal vale]

Yeah I’ve always thought it should just function like flurry of blows for monk just in front of you and you can move while it’s going off

[olive nest]

I think thematically demo is easily the coolest

Legion afflock was pretty goated though

[cloud hare]

Agree if it was a frontal it would be way better.

Tho they did that change for warbreaker now it hits aoe in front of you not arround

[vast surge]

We also got the off brand execution sentence animation, yay!

[coral crescent]

Just wait, demolish will become a charged ability in Midnight but it will be a new talent in the hero tree. Classic angle: fix something and make it a reward instead

[cloud hare]

They need to bring back legion arms. This is just has no class fantasy and thankfully they got rid of the modifiers

[vast surge]

You didn’t like having 6x modifiers to make your main dps button not hit like a wet noodle?

[severe haven]

I don't like how the most demons look

They should all be 1 size bigger imo

[vast surge]

Succubus Mommy Vibes

[severe haven]

The tyrant is awesome tho

[olive nest]

Ye bigger would be cool too!

[severe haven]

Like just a little bit more sauce man

And all g

[untold trench]

It mainly is there as a counterplay in PvP

[olive nest]

Oh that’s right people pvp in this game

[lethal vale]

IMO there is already way too much going on with warlock. The amount of visual effects that be coming out of them is crazy

Not that I’m complaining but having huge demons too.. idk

[untold trench]

They can be bigger for the lock PoV, but for everyone else - they prob should be imp sized :v

[gusty oxide]

I liked to reflect those MOP/WOD era chaos bolts back to Warlocks

Nowadays it hits for way less % of total hp wise

[untold trench]

I miss the days of SR returning all the effects in the duration

No stupid void elf passive procing on their cast, getting reflected - making me take the bolt to the face

[quaint otter]

The tech...

[severe haven]

I'm a little old school maybe..I remember the old fel guard and infernal towering over my character

[stone marsh]

Ironically demo is the demon spec but has the least flexibility of using demons and is stuck with felguard

[severe haven]

You look at it glass half empty way

As the demon specialist it has a unique demon exclusive to it

[stone marsh]

I'm looking at the unexploited potential

[severe haven]

Hey you're in arms warr chat there's plenty of that going around

[viral locust]

turning your guild soundboard into weakauras raid is more fun now

[weak dove]

hello team i am here on a quest to become one of the best arms warriors ever.

[quasi torrent]

ok

less typing on discord more reps then

[weak dove]

i am exercising my brain via the pins right now

[vague nova]

Joining a key and having the party lead say no leavers pls. I just know that mf is below the tank on the meters

[weak dove]

so the wowhead m+ build has not talented into Intimidating Shout and Bitter Immunity, is this a set in stone thing or can i move points around to accomodate, group dependant, and if so, which points do u drop?

3min cd for a poison dispell/20% is a long cd i get that but surely it has benefits somewhere

[shadow ibex]

You dont have to run the exact build on wow head no

You're allowed to pick other things

[weak dove]

where do you get the point tho?

[smoky kayak]

you can move stuff around, there are suggested swaps in the FAQ and on the Wowhead Talent Builds page #1273899844599283733 message

Intimidating Shout is fine, though kind of supplanted by the low cooldown on Shockwave; Bitter Immunity is very niche though, and not an often recommended pick

Your best drops are usually Overwhelming Rage, Second Wind, or Rumbling Earth

[steep osprey]

I have a fury question, would buffing UF incentivize you to cast rampage more during RA?

[weak dove]

ty m8

[smoky kayak]

depends on how much you buff it by, but probably not more than it is already

[zinc crater]

what build is everyone running as of rn? haven't played my warr in a bit

[quaint otter]

in m+ colossus

[zinc crater]

ty

[steep osprey]

Food order is over an hour late

And now it says it’s delivered when it’s not

[dire hinge]

I ate it sorry

[steep osprey]

[steep osprey]

I wonder if it’s going to be better if it procs on rage spent, like 1200

[smoky kayak]

maybe, but I'm sure there are a lot of ways you could make UF better; just up the % chance being the simplest

[rare kite]

what food did you order tho

[icy mulch]

6% per hit of rampage instead of straight 6%. heh

[steep osprey]

Falafel

[thick kelp]

deserved

[weak dove]

does skullsplitter affect the bleeds overall duration?

[tacit crystal]

yes

[weak dove]

ah ty

cant beleive how good the animations are

[rare kite]

which animations?

[weak dove]

all

[rare kite]

too bad we are getting some shitty new ones for 2 abilities next patch

[lethal vale]

Really?? One of the few I’ve seen that likes those animation changes 😂

[weak dove]

idk about te chages

i mean current

cleave for ex

[lethal vale]

Ohhh yeah cleave in particular is my favorite

It’s sick

Does anyone know why cleave sometimes uses an alternate animation? Like it’s race dependent sometimes it does like the zanda troll spin

[rare kite]

google them, they are so garbage

[tacit crystal]

#updates-midnight message

me when reading is hard

[dire hinge]

Cleave goes hard

[steep osprey]

Bird beak goes hard

[soft sigil]

For some races slam uses the racial animation and when you are spec'd into fervor of battle your cleave casts slam

So sometimes your character will play the slam racial animation instead of cleave

[lethal vale]

Ahhhh this makes a lot of sense

[brittle fiber]

Wow head comments are too funny

[untold trench]

I mean, is it wrong?

[brittle fiber]

If game isnt fun they could just stop playing

[weak dove]

nah i like that

thats same animation as whirlwind or butchery from sv

[rare kite]

oof

[weak dove]

yh

coming from survival hunter the animations are top tier

but the audio is not close 😦

hunter audio on abilities is top tier

[wooden lava]

I mean they have 2 whole other specs to play

they should be fine right?

[icy mulch]

Nope

[wooden lava]

XD

Isn't that the type of shit you say here anytime someone complains about warrior

[icy mulch]

I love the clown on the forums complaining about Ret Paladin's Emp hammer getting nerfed. lol

[rare kite]

firemage still pumping as well, just mage players crying

[pure otter]

Mage cries unless it does enough damage to solo the dgn in one gcd, then they complain they have to even hit there keybord to play

[strange perch]

Any news on new animations?

[minor gust]

What news are you expecting?

[strange perch]

Apologies for bad animation attempt from Blizz&Co.

[minor gust]

Never gonna happen

[strange perch]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-snow-interview-microphone-mic-gif-25816123

[rare kite]

nahh, i bet they are gonna ignore the feedback and keep them

[shadow ibex]

its actually hilarious how much they missed the mark

[minor gust]

See one thing with the shaman ascendancy form being changed after negative feedback was because everyone was clowning on that shit

[shadow ibex]

true confirmation they are out of touch on warrior

[minor gust]

No one but warriors care so Blizz won't care

[brittle fiber]

It’s a weird world when mages and warriors arent most played classes

Like hunters i understand but from this survey, whack as hell

[magic canopy]

Ret paladin is i think the most played spec in raid

behind or next to BM

[brittle fiber]

Oh tru wcl would show popularity

[quaint otter]

according to parses it is

[rare kite]

druid and hunter been nr 1 for many years

druid prob coz of bots tho

[icy mulch]

"Oh yeah buddy, those hunters no scare us. Stupid hosers eh, they shoot their guns, we always get away. "

[icy mulch]

It's a class that literally has training wheels attached.

[shadow ibex]

i would go by parses. arms historically one of lower numbers

[minor gust]

I don't remember what season 4 parses looked like in DF but doesn't warrior specs usually just flip flop

Like when arms is go-to and fury is ass all the furys just flock to arms and vice versa

[brittle fiber]

I mean hunter makes sense

But yea surprising mage isnt as high up anymore

[shadow ibex]

even when its better fury still has more

[rare kite]

unless fury is gigashit and/or arms is op fury has more

[severe haven]

Nah this has been the case for years

[shadow ibex]

if fury is gigashit arms often is as well

[silk spade]

ye

[shadow ibex]

or its just s4 and no one cares anyway

we play a mega unpopular spec

[minor gust]

yeah I believe it

[severe haven]

It's the same with Fury for ret lol if it's good it's everywhere if it's bad it's just high on the popularity list

[rare kite]

like if you check hc logs, arms is on top damage wise but still has 3x less parses than fury

[shadow ibex]

i wish they'd do something to arms to try and make it more attractive to players

[minor gust]

atleast with how popular fury is you can confirm that blizz doesnt make reworks based on how popular a class is

[shadow ibex]

instead of butchering prots APM to attract ppl who dont enjoy playing prot

[minor gust]

idk what the fuck their doing with prot just remove ignore pain and make something else

the annoying constant off gcd rage dump is what most people have a problem with prot

its the same reason they removed heroic strike

[brittle fiber]

I actually miss heroic strike

[minor gust]

I play sod trust me you dont

Spamming heroic strike every gcd while pressing 4 other buttons at the same time gets old quick

[rare kite]

i tried some cata arms on a dummy a few days ago. cs resets feel so good man, don't care about stance dancing or heroic strike tho

[lean geode]

I thought stance dancing was the sickest shit ever when I was like 11 and cata was current

[minor gust]

Once you realize you can just macro everything stands. Dancing was dead and useless

[rare kite]

i really wish there was a way to reset cs. such a satisfying ability to press(until they give us new animation atleast)

[minor gust]

yeah arms procs used to be satisfying to get. overpower and naked mortal strikes aint it chief

SD being chained up by multiple different conditionals kills it as a proc

[rare kite]

SD also feels worse because of juggernaut. low base damage and the rng of having jugg stacks before execute phase starts

[minor gust]

also day 200 of complaing why does wow classic sod have an amazing sudden death animation while retail doesnt have shit

[brittle fiber]

cata heroic strike >>

[quasi torrent]

kill jugg

it's dogshit ass

[lethal vale]

I hate being slower than every class in the game

I get left in the dust 😦

[rare kite]

wdym slower?? we have insane burst mobility

[lethal vale]

Heroic leap, What else can you use out of combat?

[brittle fiber]

it's avenging wrath but red

[rare kite]

oh out of combat, yea we're not great there. however you should spend most of time in combat or close to a pack

[minor gust]

im not sure you know what avenging wrath looks like

[brittle fiber]

im getting mixed up hang on

[shadow ibex]

jugg needs to go

instead we added ugly spell effects

[minor gust]

jugg was fine in DF but slayer makes that shit absolute cringe

die jugg die

[brittle fiber]

it's very similar

[minor gust]

ok now post the retail animation for SD

oh wait

[lethal vale]

Bro I hate using colossus it literally just doesnt fully go off because the mob moved

[brittle fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/dramatic-lady-falling-down-stairs-gif-20049961

[lethal vale]

Yeah, I'm referring to wipes and stuff like that lol\

[rare kite]

it's really only stonevault you can't mount in right?

[lean geode]

Has anyone cooked a BL slayer build for ptr

[quaint otter]

db only skyriding mounts

[rare kite]

yea that's still something everyone gets. it's really only if you wipe in timewalking dungeons you notice warrior mobility issues, and stonevault but already mentioned that earlier.

[untold trench]

Bring back nippy speed potions when?

[steep osprey]

Just proc war machine

[vast surge]

I wish I could move faster.

[boreal quartz]

i mean in TW

you run full optimal speedset

cuz ilvl is fake

[vast surge]

I just want to move faster in general

Wish I could be fleet footed.

[thick kelp]

where tf is the discounted items

on trading post

[vast surge]

Is that a thing?

[steep osprey]

There’s another nearby vendor I heard

Check that

[thick kelp]

tyvm

[brittle fiber]

didnt they buff arms as well as fury, what is this on rik reverb

[thick kelp]

its raid testing

👍

[brittle fiber]

👍

thought arms would be doing a little bit more damage

[tacit crystal]

its a fight with more than one target

[vast surge]

Multiple targets! shakes fists

[steep osprey]

test dn

[brittle fiber]

Rik reverb is st no?

[thick kelp]

nop

Bunch of small guys to kill

[tacit crystal]

people actively just played fury because boss was over tuned so adds had to die to see more

[brittle fiber]

I know the entranced raiders was a thing that you could pad on

Ohh the flamethrower guys yep

[steep osprey]

based

[quaint otter]

guess spec

[thick kelp]

Ret

[tacit crystal]

feral

[dim basalt]

Outlaw? Feral?

[quaint otter]

feral

[steep osprey]

he is good

[quaint otter]

i guess better than peeps who cant kick fear in sv

dropped it from 15 to 12

[icy mulch]

Hmm, I've only seen a couple groups like that. Mainly a bunch from the Women of Warcraft Discord.

[cloud gyro]

Hmm

[icy mulch]

?

[cloud gyro]

Hm?

[tacit crystal]

why weirdge

[wintry scroll]

Hmmm

How do i sign up for that sever

[trim lintel]

[severe haven]

Very obv bm hunter

[olive nest]

Feral gamers are badass

I can’t make the keybinds feel good or I’d play that as alt all day

[quaint otter]

I know few and they were definitely not

[faint harness]

The best of our kind, definitely.

[untold trench]

But but, you could be the one to kick it

[quaint otter]

I did

[untold trench]

Sure... ly...

[sour prism]

How they vetting that in this day and age

[icy mulch]

If it's from the Discord, they do a video call.

[quaint otter]

[sour prism]

Those calls must be

Interesting

[icy mulch]

I was once part of Women of Warcraft. You had to apply to the Discord, then get into a video call to prove you're not just some creep.

[coral crescent]

Is that community now called Visage or something? Or is that something else

[boreal quartz]

video call is weird, no?

though good intent ig

[thick kelp]

Proud ex officer of a lwiw guild here

[quaint otter]

lwiw?

[thick kelp]

https://raider.io/news/423-liquid-women-in-warcraft-approved-guilds-on-raiderio

[quaint otter]

dee

z

[boreal quartz]

you or ur gf?

[thick kelp]

me

friends fiance was GM

[boreal quartz]

W

[quaint otter]

:kappa

liquid women sounds weird tho

[boreal quartz]

its a good idea

gamers are horrible

[thick kelp]

Now its called Visage

[quasi torrent]

That's
such a bad name

[boreal quartz]

evoker

[thick kelp]

They are now VISAGE: Visibility, Inclusivity, Support, and Advocacy in Gaming & Esports.

[boreal quartz]

i am an advocate for hating aug players

[thick kelp]

1.Be respectful of all members.
2.Zero tolerance for harassment, toxicity, bullying, name calling, or hate speech.
3.Zero tolerance for sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, or any other kind of offensive language or behaviour.

[boreal quartz]

and killing them with hammers

[thick kelp]

no HoF guilds getting in

[boreal quartz]

ingame

[quasi torrent]

any kind of offensive language

me when i cant say fuck im stupid

[lean geode]

Walhe can you provide me a BL slayer build for 11.1

[lean geode]

Is this not just how every guild operates?

[boreal quartz]

you wish

[thick kelp]

Maybe in NA

[lean geode]

People dropping slurs in their 4th languages

[boreal quartz]

if i cannot whisper other raiders mid raid

that someone else is a boosted noober

[lean geode]

Americans protected by only knowing one language

[boreal quartz]

why am i in this raid

[lean geode]

I feel like whispering person B that person C is a boosted noober is fine, no? As long as you aren't being toxic to person B themselves?

[quasi torrent]

Actual toxic language gets shut down in my guild for good reason

[naive sage]

This but with retri and mages

[boreal quartz]

its not exlcusive to 1 grp

i can dislike anyone or anything if i have good reason

[lean geode]

Phil are you NA or EU frog

[shadow ibex]

heroic 25man guilds were rough back in the day

[boreal quartz]

eu

[halcyon breach]

There is a lot more genuinely awful language and toxic environments that are fostered because officers don't care, or are the ones fostering it, in a lot of guilds

And it's for some odd reason quite excessive the higher you get

[thick kelp]

Especially the danish guilds!

They are so toxic and racist....

[shadow ibex]

being a black man in a 25man guild was

[boreal quartz]

monkaW

[quasi torrent]

Superbia moment

Danish terrace moment

[lean geode]

How do your guild memebers even know what color your skin is tho

[halcyon breach]

Superbia was quite bad at times

[thick kelp]

They dont

they dont need to use it

[quasi torrent]

(the n word was used in /1 in general during EN on sylvanas-eu-ally)

[thick kelp]

its a worldwide slur

[lean geode]

True

[thick kelp]

applies to everyone

[lean geode]

Idk bit of a hot take here but I feel like people should not use slurs in general

[boreal quartz]

endboss legion first tier druid details name

[quasi torrent]

If you ever feel the need to drop n word take a good look at urself

[halcyon breach]

This is an ice cold take

[thick kelp]

Liquid maximum hunter pets

[quasi torrent]

And maybe just dont

[lean geode]

So based

[boreal quartz]

instead of slur punch ur desk or smth

[halcyon breach]

If it's a hot take to someone, they should consider retrospection 👍

[shadow ibex]

it used to be real bad

like even shit guilds

[boreal quartz]

WR doesnt impact it imo

anyone with free will can proc it

[shadow ibex]

now i just bow out of any grp that has even a whiff of it

[boreal quartz]

not that they should

[quasi torrent]

Yeah its been getting better since like bfa

not to say that i was a pure soul back then (i wasn't)

[halcyon breach]

Anda still isn't

He calls me slurs (noober) in DMs

[boreal quartz]

andus posts kock und sack on main

[lean geode]

I wonder if this is a consequence of the playerbase in general getting older

[quasi torrent]

U say this

yet classic is worse

and the playerbase is older

[quasi torrent]

Problem?

[lean geode]

Okay but classic players are built different

In a negative connotation

[quasi torrent]

(37 living in moms basement)

[icy mulch]

No idea

[thick kelp]

its visage now

Liquid stopped being part of it

for

uh

Reasons

[lean geode]

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[quasi torrent]

Jason lake based???

[boreal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/dan-hentschel-daniel-hentschel-goop-guy-white-liquid-angry-gif-2486699680966888871

man this is such a gif of all time, love Dan

[lean geode]

Wasn't Adeen like the head of LWIW stuff and then she left everything to do with Liquid or something

Idk I'm just

[boreal quartz]

shes just vanished no?

[shadow ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxGnp3DwzELund8PXs9M3fk7La9xEJMprM a guildie clipped this

[lean geode]

She still streams afaik

[boreal quartz]

like twitter gone discord gone

oh hm

[quasi torrent]

gib transcript

i cant listen rn real

[shadow ibex]

hopefully they have kids

[boreal quartz]

"in classic ur one of 2 people, dad or racist so i hope these guys have kids"

approximately

[lean geode]

Bro youtube clips are actually cursed

Those mfs never work for me

[quasi torrent]

the venn diagram overlaps

[lean geode]

Me when I live in the southern united states

[thick kelp]

🏳️‍🌈 WoW Streamer, Caster & VISAGE Council

idk this is in her

Insta bio

[quaint otter]

?

[coral crescent]

ah that's what i thought, thanks for the info :)

[quasi torrent]

vs HIM

[boreal quartz]

🆚 👺

[lean geode]

#arms message

[thick kelp]

wtf

is Bl slayer build

@lean geode

[boreal quartz]

BLOODLUST SLAYER RAaAAAAAaHAHahHHh

[halcyon breach]

Battlelord

[lean geode]

battlelord ya

[thick kelp]

are u crazy

slayer battlelord

[lean geode]

Every time I ptr test slarms I run out of rage and want to alt+f4

[boreal quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1026579199655419974/1198382784176201869/IubzkROb.gif

slayer

[thick kelp]

How areu

out of rage

on slarms

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-gif-16508948274886257497

[lean geode]

When I play bl col it feels very good and then I look at the meters and want to alt+f4

[shadow ibex]

still waiting for that compensation buff

[thick kelp]

Wait im bulding

did u want

AOE

or what

like key slarms

[lean geode]

No tactician procs, lot of slam

Like single target

[shadow ibex]

because blizz is totally aware that colossus took an ST hit when they changed demo stacks

right?

they know that right?

https://tenor.com/view/worried-kermit-kermit-the-frog-muppets-stressed-gif-17987745

[steep osprey]

[shadow ibex]

right?

[thick kelp]

innit

Slarms doesnt really do

BL

Like I can

give you a slarms Blord

but

[shadow ibex]

4pc shoulda like auto proc in exe at max stacks

why the fuck do i want OP dmg

when i can have haste

who the fuck made this shit

[quasi torrent]

Slarms more like slam

[lean geode]

this

[quasi torrent]

my fav arms ability

[thick kelp]

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/talent-calc/warrior/arms/slayer/DAOBVUFRFBhIUKpQEBUOVVERVVQFUlVQEQCEAEFVVUBE

I mean

play Blord

with this IG

but

its fucking dogshit on slarms

[thick kelp]

in ST

[lean geode]

Is this wowhead trying to tell me something

[quasi torrent]

noob country?

[thick kelp]

CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwMmZGzMjZbWWWmZAAAAwgpZMjtZmhhBzYzMzghZYAAAAAAAYGzy8AjBQmZstMwCYAzwEyMYD

[quasi torrent]

Nice password

[thick kelp]

ty

[lean geode]

@thick kelp I forgor to turn on logging earlier but peep 1:45ish here https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9zpQqANvrLBXJfMm?fight=last&type=resources&spell=101

That's with Fishy's slarms build

[thick kelp]

Whats your rotation

looks messed up ngl

Iwas going like 5mins

[lean geode]

Idk just playing normally

I've been doing 3m bc dummy goes into exe range usually around 1:30 in

[thick kelp]

I did not rage starve one

hitting exec dummy

for 5mins

[lean geode]

Without SkS?

Or with

[thick kelp]

with