was pretty nasty, even more so now
#arms
fresh spire
side note, Bloodsurge was buffed, its pretty alright now
Still not the best but its slowly creaping
magic canopy
i kinda expect collosus to be the goto in keys so itll see play
icy mulch
Their reasoning for it didn't even make sense.
magic canopy
but for raiding looks like its slayer on the menu
minor gust
My favorite is how they tried buffing Colossus ST multiple times to get it close just to make this exe change with no compensation.
fresh spire
Their reasoning for it didn't even make sense.
they wanted to try make execute less valuable by making ms more valuable, realisically they need to do something more for MS to replace execute like extra stacks under 35 etc
magic canopy
if anything they should just tune up the bottom left hero talent and make MS even more potent
brittle fiber
hopefully the arms intern gets promoted
magic canopy
so we just avoid Execute
severe haven
tbh these changes don't really address colossus' main issue
minor gust
All the boring flat dmg increase talents in the Colossus tree need to be reworked into something real
icy mulch
they wanted to try make execute less valuable by making ms more valuable, realis...
Yeah, but we ran EP most of the time. So you would still want to hit MS during execute phase. Which is why I don't get it. Why stop us from synergizing with Colossus talents?
minor gust
We have way to many compared to other specs
brittle fiber
remove demolish, make max colossal might stacks empower mortal strike or cs, bam easy
wide pebble
Arms slayer all the time now?
icy mulch
remove demolish, make max colossal might stacks empower mortal strike or cs, bam...
Am I the only one that actually mostly likes demolish? I'd love if they let us move with it, but I think it's still a good ability.
tacit crystal
i hate when the target moves
brittle fiber
I like it but it just doesnt make sense
fresh spire
Yeah, but we ran EP most of the time. So you would still want to hit MS during e...
i think its because they want to try make battlelord flow so you always keep MS on cd, then weave execute/op as filler, so any resets from BL instantly spent, right now even with battlelord its still not worth sending before 2ep
there is situations where sending MS singluar just for CM stacks is worth
brittle fiber
Personally i just want overpower to back down to one charge but i know im alone in that opinion
fresh spire
problem is agreeing to a statement like that would mean you enjoy slamming
brittle fiber
I do enjoy slamming
tacit crystal
fidhy what is the simulation on the pants
icy mulch
i think its because they want to try make battlelord flow so you always keep MS ...
Heaven forbid we hit execute, uh, in the execute phase? lol
fresh spire
2 charges does help prevent slam bloating
brittle fiber
Slamming just isnt strong
fresh spire
Heaven forbid we hit execute, uh, in the execute phase? lol
move about a more set prio system than not pressing it
Think about how Warrior was in Scantum, like that
brittle fiber
They could reintroduce something like taste for blood or give overpower a proc reset of some kind
fresh spire
MS was the ultimate button
didnt care about any external factors, you pressed that fucking thing the moment you could and it always hit hard
magic canopy
bring back moral combo
brittle fiber
bring her back 
fresh spire
i wouldn't mind seeing Combo/Enduring return
icy mulch
bring back moral combo
fresh spire
put them on colossus hero tree 🙂
maybe let slayer have SD clap back on their tree
i think thats fair
brittle fiber
idk how they saw execute as a hero talent and decided to mutalite it by introducing bladestorm into the tree
minor gust
Am I the only one that actually mostly likes demolish? I'd love if they let us m...
The way it functions is dog awful. Everything else is fine. Besides also needing a cooler sound effect. At a bare minimum it should work like fist of fury. The requiring a target is cringe
brittle fiber
fists of fury needs a target as well
icy mulch
The way it functions is dog awful. Everything else is fine. Besides also needing...
A graphic or sound would be nice.
fresh spire
The way it functions is dog awful. Everything else is fine. Besides also needing...
think its more fucked that you get sd procs and you are waiting basically for 3 stacks, trying to extend a buff that falls off because mfe after it are buffed and well just not overcapping
minor gust
Does it I couldn't remember either way you can move with FoF and your shit doesn't cancel when the target moves away
tacit crystal
demolish should cast like searing axe
brittle fiber
needs a target to be infront of you for the cast to go off but then you can move
minor gust
Yeah I rather have some plunderstorm abilities instead
Gimmie the axe fire tornado one as a new animation for bladestorm please
brittle fiber
i reckon paladin's gonna get that empowered consecrate thing next season for sure
or season after
quaint otter
maybe let slayer have SD clap back on their tree
Sd clap fantasy suits colossus more
fresh spire
you are forced to take SD for slayer to function 
brittle fiber
If Slayer has a million haters I'm one of them. If it has one hater it's me. If it has 0 haters I have died. If the world is against Slayer I am with the world, if the world is for Slayer I am against the world.
icy mulch
Slayer arms certainly feel smoother than Colossus.
quaint otter
yeah very funny
earnest musk
icy mulch
SkS does make things feel weird. Would not miss it if it vanished.
brittle fiber
tbh cleave spam at 1.5 second cd with the avatar capstone feels awkward to me as well
quaint otter
U have fervor therefore ure slamming also 
brittle fiber
yoooooooo i like it again
raw hollow
What's SkS?
quaint otter
Nothing
brittle fiber
What's SkS?
quaint otter
(skullspliter)
raw hollow
Ah right cheers
magic canopy
@calm vessel so with those changes is 2.6m the expected sim
since i keep seeing that number float around in pics
fresh spire
what i posted above is with the changes ye
fresh spire
from the buff?
magic canopy
yuh
fresh spire
2.429->2.685
icy mulch
Well @magic canopy you very well may have an Arms season.
brittle fiber
think every warrior's having an arms season
fury's good on what like 2 fights pre buffs?
fresh spire
nah i dont think so yet, still think thane is going to be underdog like it was before
icy mulch
I really like Thane, but would be very happy with Arms Col. Especially if they gave it some QoL changes.
magic canopy
the fights with adds are bad timings
and or too spread out
so we just pump boss dam
fresh spire
I really like Thane, but would be very happy with Arms Col. Especially if they g...
we are still expecting a buff for the hero nerf
shadow ibex
Colossus still needs compensation
minor gust
fury doesnt have good direction
Arms doesn't have good direction either just better numbers
shadow ibex
we are still expecting a buff for the hero nerf
Honestly man at this point I don't think they are aware it affected colossus st
fresh spire
in keys
minor gust
"dont press overpower"
Basically already what I was doing if I played a Slayer key xd
But I rarely play slayer keys once in a blue moon
minor gust
Sounds interesting at least.
fresh spire
SD taking a point kinda fucked taking em
minor gust
I like Jugg keys
fresh spire
minor gust
I did a bunch in what S3 of DF
fresh spire
basically cleave on cd and do execute rotation
minor gust
In AOE right?
minor gust
Basically cleave MS spam till you can exe
minor gust
Yeah NGL kinda like that for Slayer keys
cloud dawn
I did a bunch in what S3 of DF
jugg builds in season 3 DF were so much fun imo
rapid bronze
Those new animations are pretty sick
magic canopy
this is some cursed shit
fresh spire
fresh spire
waiting for colossus stuff to be buffed so working on the promising spec rn
icy mulch
Hmm, is this an attempt at M+?
icy mulch
Hmm, very interesting.
icy mulch
45s roar, but no BB
fresh spire
bleeds kinda suck
icy mulch
True, Jugg needs to die though. lol
cloud dawn
unpopular opinion probably but hero talents were a mistake and they shouldve just reworked the tree for all the specs this xpac
minor gust
Can't wait for the third talent tree next expansion
cloud dawn
seems like most people are pretty unhappy with how their balancing their desired specs
fresh spire
Eventually they will get them all sorted out, just takes time adding a system onto a system, but looking at it from an outwards opinion it's likely been a nightmare to try balance
one buff to an ability changes boths maybe in a way unintended or unwanted while trying to fix the other
cloud dawn
seems like an actual nightmare
the start of season 1 was pretty crazy, buffs and nerfs every week
this discord especially in #fury were dooming hard
quaint otter
unpopular opinion probably but hero talents were a mistake and they shouldve jus...
Damn they just could have the "hero" things in a spec tree
icy mulch
Can't wait for the third talent tree next expansion
Let's be real though, just like every other expansion, bits and pieces of the hero talent trees will be duct taped to our class/spec trees in next expac.
lean geode
I mean that's not inherently a bad thing
thick hamlet
i'd like to duct tape 100% increased stamina in for next expac
dim jay
am i the only one that thinks blizz is just gonna tack on 10 more talents to the hero trees
minor gust
They said everything from here on is designed to be permanent so unfortunately you won't be saying goodbye to hero talents
dim jay
They said everything from here on is designed to be permanent so unfortunately y...
man predicting the future/past
rare kite
wtf is this new warbreaker animation?+?
dim jay
wtf is this new warbreaker animation?+?
bad
rare kite
this shit is so ass
dim jay
the 3 weapon animation looks like its supposed to be around us
instead of around targets hit
and shouldn't be part of Csmash
making it look liek an aoe
woven wasp
✨ 
🎇
dim jay
i dont mind the 3 weapon animation but that would 100% look better if it shot out from US and not targets hit, imagine hitting warbreaker on 30 targets
woven wasp
i dont mind the 3 weapon animation but that would 100% look better if it shot ou...
thank you for giving me an idea
dim jay
the FPS drop for 2 seconds as that animation plays 30 fuckign times
fresh spire
i dont mind the 3 weapon animation but that would 100% look better if it shot ou...
reverse it so it hits the target instead for cs and explodes outwards for aoe
im actually wondering if it will cause fps lag with tons of targets 😄
magic canopy
new CS animation is weird
either the weps need to hit the shield to break it
or it just needs to shatter and dissapate
rare kite
it's super shit ngl
dim jay
or it just needs to shatter and dissapate
the weapons need to not be a part of Csmash, but be a part of warbreaker but source is YOU not targets hit
minor gust
I don't mind the new animations better than what it was
rare kite
i would rather have the spikes from the ground than this
fresh spire
i still find it weird warbreaker was changed this way, CS sure kinda neat
minor gust
What spikes the barely visible spikes that you can never see
minor gust
Fuck dem spikes
quaint otter
What spikes the barely visible spikes that you can never see
The dps spike in details pls
rare kite
Fuck dem spikes
i don't even like the spikes that much. this flashy fairy bs around all targets? nah
dim jay
big number make happy
quaint otter
<:warriorbrain:1083190485637660734> big number make happy
Play elem 
dim jay
Play elem <:critcake:984549832511344640>
ew
i dont fucks with stormbringer, liked ele in season 3/season 4 of DF tho
icy mulch
or it just needs to shatter and dissapate
This is what I pictured when they said they had a new animation for it.
modest marlin
hmmm, I don't think I like the new animation.
modest marlin
It's the same animation for both to my eyes
magic canopy
HOWEVER
minor gust
It's fine I don't understand how it's fairy shit but I get it could of been meatier
magic canopy
keep in mind with these types of visual updates, i feel like its indicitive of an actual rework on the horizon
lime mountain
I barely play my DPS specs, but I'm here to say I despise both, but CS is real fuckin' bad
It feels real bad from a flavor feel, because it does not feel like the shattering or bypassing is coming from my martial skill
hushed pine
The visual is for when targets get CS debuff applied to them
lime mountain
It feels like I'm using magic, that thing I don't do
modest marlin
I think the visual showing an actual breastplate falling apart doesn't feel realistic.
icy mulch
Like I was picturing a shield icon showing up above the target and it just splintering and fading away.
dim jay
minor gust
It feels like I'm using magic, that thing I don't do
This statement is ultimately why warrior animations are boring and shit.
magic canopy
it needed less magical weapon
modest marlin
I think you can do a lot without floating things above the NPCs
magic canopy
more slams from diablo
dim jay
why does arms have to be flashy?
lime mountain
The breastplate break thing indicating what's happening, fine
minor gust
POE2 animations and sounds are bis for warrior
hushed pine
I don't mind a bit of flashy visuals tbh, you can barely see it when it's something like brown
minor gust
I get that ppl want that
modest marlin
The breastplate break thing indicating what's happening, fine
you don't need a utility style effect for a dps ability I feel.
Unless sunders are ALL gonna have that effect.
rare kite
keep in mind with these types of visual updates, i feel like its indicitive of a...
hooly moly, and here i thought i was the biggest overdoser
minor gust
They have been randomly updating for a lot of specs
modest marlin
Shaman have been getting ability updates basically each patch.
minor gust
We already have the planned warrior rework date patch 13.3
modest marlin
You mean just in time for the 14.0 level squish and wiping the board clean?
minor gust
14.0 will be wow 2 and all will be right
modest marlin
We're never gonna see a WoW 2. They won't erase 25 years of characters.
dim jay
i was about to say
modest marlin
Eq1 is still more popular than eq2
dim jay
if i have to restart my 18 year old warlock and 17 year old warrior? guess im done playing WoW lmao
hushed pine
Yeah nah screw that yo
brittle fiber
Bold of you guys to think WoW 2 is happening over full dev focus on warcraft rumble
icy mulch
I'll be in an old folks home by the time WoW 2 happens.
minor gust
We're never gonna see a WoW 2. They won't erase 25 years of characters.
They are just gonna pull a poe 2 and run both games at the same time until game one loses popularity and they slowly shut it down
icy mulch
It's Blizzard, they'll do the same thing for a WoW 2 as they did for Overwatch 2.
modest marlin
Bold of you guys to think WoW 2 is happening over full dev focus on warcraft rum...
Rumble gets a lot of patches lol
brittle fiber
they get it ^
dim jay
It's Blizzard, they'll do the same thing for a WoW 2 as they did for Overwatch 2...
they'd get shit on 100x worse than they did for overwatch 2's BS
icy mulch
they'd get shit on 100x worse than they did for overwatch 2's BS
It's Blizzard. lol
modest marlin
But still, there's no profit to be had by killing the golden goose to make some poorly optimized WoW 2.
Blizzard is really good at updating the engine as they go along.
icy mulch
I mean ... this is parody, but come on... this is where Blizz is at these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9YpL_k3jH8
minor gust
Blizz has said they want another 20 years of wow I doubt their gonna do another 20 years on the same shit outdated ass engine that wow is on rn. They can with a lot of work add all tmog from wow to wow 2 so you keep all your character prog as you go into wow 2
solar nest
Didn’t they already update the engine once when we moved to legion?
minor gust
This trilogy of expansions is the perfect time to kill off wow as we know and move onto a new engine
solar nest
It doesn’t require an entire new game release
minor gust
You can update a pile of shit as much as you want it's still gonna be a pile of shit
zenith warren
there is this ongoing worldsould saga so maybe when it ends they'll announce something big; they wouldnt make a new game soon when they are about to implement player housing though, but something like engine/graphic upgrade could be an expansion feature
modest marlin
WoW's engine has been replaced piece by piece a few times over now.
zenith warren
im talking smh like cs2, im not avanced in this topic so ignore if this does not make sense xd
modest marlin
They may update character customization again and stuff but the art style doesn't require a whole new engine
brittle fiber
tbh i hate that they're investing into recreational features like player housing instead of giving us a 4th season/4 raids
brittle fiber
the only player housing i ever cared about was igloos in club penguin
minor gust
wow engine will not be able to handle anything good and if player housing isnt gonna be as good as ff14
then why even bother
fresh spire
Depends what the actual goals are from it
brittle fiber
money sink
that's it
hell even guild wars halls will be better than it. it'll be released as an underdeveloped feature with "promises" to expand on it over 6 years
shadow ibex
ill say housing is weird considering how much of the game is just instanced content
modest marlin
But regardless, I don't like the new smash visual cause it feels to outside the warrior.
shadow ibex
just a place to wait to get summoned in
minor gust
yee retail hasnt been an mmorpg in years
brittle fiber
at most i want a guild hall, but that's it
minor gust
no one cares about the world the server or other players
modest marlin
just a place to wait to get summoned in
FF14 is just as instanced if not more so for end game yet has a thriving housing scene.
brittle fiber
guild meetings in an orgrimmar themed mud hut would go hard
minor gust
thats the reason I still play classic a lot. The server is actually alive you actually see the same people over and over again out in the world
retails hasnt had that in over a decade
shadow ibex
FF14 is just as instanced if not more so for end game yet has a thriving housing...
i never played ff but i think it has more varied content than wow
wow is play the current patch or die
minor gust
yeah wow is about the endgame content
shadow ibex
if you arent in a dungeon making number go up there isnt much there for you
minor gust
ff14 is not
modest marlin
A lot of 14 is still the end game and you can queue up for that anywhere including your house
They don't even have to go to the raid entrance
icy mulch
tbh i hate that they're investing into recreational features like player housing...
I would much rather not have fated raids or a trash throw away season of M+.
charred brook
We need guild halls
Like the garrison shit but for guilds
Where you can hangout and also invite others
Like RuneScape houses
brittle fiber
seeing as wow loves stealing ideas from gw2 i wouldnt be surprised if they copy their guild halls
untold trench
Would love guildhalls, more community stuff, the better
brittle fiber
pro guild halls, anti player housing
devout pewter
So what do we do to get blizz to do a redo on the new CS and WB animation, like they did with shamans?
rare kite
So what do we do to get blizz to do a redo on the new CS and WB animation, like ...
nothing. we play warrior, this is all we're gonna get
devout pewter
God dang it, not again
rare kite
tru, but imagine if we didn't get buffed and both warrior specs were just ass
magic canopy
severe haven
tru, but imagine if we didn't get buffed and both warrior specs were just ass
So like, live? As in right now? Sure
shadow ibex
trademark 12% buff to stay relevant
severe haven
trademark 12% buff to stay relevant
Ikr
rare kite
So like, live? As in right now? Sure
i meant tuning wise
severe haven
Bandaid change
severe haven
i meant tuning wise
Yeah nah I understood, just meant to say I don't need to imagine that
rare kite
warrior pretty good in raid on live, if we didn't get buffed we would be in the gutter for 11.1 raid
icy mulch
Now here is a wild shot of copium, but an aura buff would not be something I'd disagree with.
dusty dagger
lmfaooooo
oak kite
why the hell frost dk needed a buff? but i guess their single target was too low. i have repeatedly seen frost and spriest not being able to kill the side add on the last boss of necrotic wake.
also if they with these buffs the best we can do is i think catch up with the rets. but still ret is ez life ez key. it is just too comfortable.
pure otter
man im deff getting cata vibes, when they buff ur animations there abondoning us for next xpac
eternal plinth
am I the only one who thinks the new CS/WB animation looks terrible
minor gust
no theres people that dislike it
finite wasp
ngl the new animations are kinda cringe
twirling around and slamming the ground like an anime character i dont like it
shadow ibex
the ww spin looks a lil goofy
sage badge
raven ridge
They look really bad. Why am I summoning weapons? It's weird
finite wasp
we are not anime warriors
minor gust
OHHH SHIT Deswind has spoken
finite wasp
we are warriors
shadow ibex
its very weird to have some ghostly weapons appear
when nothing in our kit involves that at all
if they are supposed to be ghostly idk
minor gust
if you really hate em best you can do is go complain on ptr and hope enough people hate it for them to change it like with the shaman ascendance forms
finite wasp
if you really hate em best you can do is go complain on ptr and hope enough peo...
isnt that what we do best?
bitch and complain?
we got buffs for that sooooo.
minor gust
nah were really good at dooming
thats our specialty if we were as good at bitching and complaining like mages and warlocks we would be in a much better place
finite wasp
oh maybe bitching is reserved for locks yeah
signal isle
arms looking like it might be pretty good with the 4piece and new buffs
quasi torrent
arms bozos keep losing
inner wasp
does it make the sound tho
manic egret
also, finaly changes on sweeping strikes
vast surge
Why is the animation not simply the colossus smash icon over the target’s head?
manic egret
sadly not mortal
proud remnant
What are the sweeping changes?
abstract cairn
with the glyph?
sudden fox
I kinda wanna swap to war over rogue now lol
rare kite
same as execute but blue, lol
it is definetely not that for me
abstract cairn
brittle fiber
something tells me slam's gonna get a void themed upgrade in midnight
abstract cairn
the ugliest skill in the class finally getting some love?
neon estuary
well its better than the new warbringer / smash animations at least
abstract cairn
well its better than the new warbringer / smash animations at least
i cry
neon estuary
its actually not bad, its just.. blue which is usually not our color
brittle fiber
New ability names:
Midnight Slam
The War Within Breaker
The Last Titan Avatar
abstract cairn
well, with the glyph for execute at least u will have birds flying around when crit chance goes up ¯_(ツ)_/¯
rare kite
i like jump in the air and do a spin attack when i slam
don't have any recording software to show
rare kite
does it require gamepass?
abstract cairn
also clips from discord
abstract cairn
does it require gamepass?
nope
brittle fiber
why is this invalid for my spec of arms
brittle fiber
ah it's for prot
brittle fiber
its actually not bad, its just.. blue which is usually not our color
mortal strike is blue as well
abstract cairn
wondering how will it look like for gnomes and goblins, lol
abstract cairn
mortal strike is blue as well
also Cleave
rare kite
wondering how will it look like for gnomes and goblins, lol
i like your version way more. night elf slam is so lame
cobalt sinew
pearl jasper
I think I prefer the old animation for colossus smash
devout pewter
No animation would be better than that.. it just looks awful. And Warbreaker is just the same but multipled on every enemy...
shadow ibex
not sure where this weird ghost weapon army from lotr came from
devout pewter
looks a lot like the stuff from Final Fantasy 15
Could have just made a huge weapon for CS and have the same follow up with an earthquake for Warbreaker. Huge Glyph potential for different weapons/your own weapon too
minor gust
I like the new animations thats just me
devout pewter
The animation isn't bad, it just ... doesn't really fit together all too well
minor gust
Im fine with that I dont really care for lore or theme just give me good animations
devout pewter
from what I've seen the actualy "woom" effect of the animation is delayed by like a second or so from the actual button press
that'll feel awful
If they'd reverse the animation so the smashing of the weapons comes first (and warbreaker has something else) it would probably be fine
minor gust
complain on forums they might do a glyph option like shaman
steep osprey
MS is actually insane
lean geode
Only thing I can think is since only BB hit was buffed and not the dot, probably not worth bloodborne?
rare kite
i bet i can get higher than 8.5m, tho my crit chance is really low
so might take a while
lean geode
Col ST feels so good with BL though HOLY
steep osprey
nvm I was wrong
it's similar
OP damage xdd
slam getting close to demolish
Playing with BL is so nice
I love when you get procs over and over from OP > MS
minor gust
this version of arms is indeed only bearable with BL and EB
steep osprey
feels so good
shadow ibex
slam is gonna make up a lot of % there cuz u didnt exe
steep osprey
That's true
shadow ibex
cuz its a dummy ofc
steep osprey
I did do SD only
becuase i was in exe
too many people testing
I just wanted to see what it'd be like without exe
and my MS wasn't doing much damage idk
I was critting more on slayer than this but that could be because of EP 2x
and a lot more sd procs on slayer
rare kite
8.9
steep osprey
btw
anyone else thinks that the OP 15% chance to drop stacks is bugged
it's not 15% lmao
more like 3%
it never DROPS OFF
shadow ibex
mine seemed ok but last week it was going over a minute without 4pc proc
but when i tried it today it seemed to be consistent
coulda been luck i guess
rare kite
min 1.5mil and max 8.9 mil btw
shadow ibex
lmao
rare kite
32% pay them back is not bad. considering i was in execute phase basically the entire time
rare kite
5m on a noncrit is pretty crazy
lean geode
IP over FBV is wild no?
steep osprey
steep osprey
IP over FBV is wild no?
I don't care lmao, it's random
OP 📈
Nice uptime of this trinket
river ridge
olive nest
literally last essence set and we win
minor gust
F do you gus not have the dmg to skip that essence set
shadow ibex
yea we just commited and skipped it
ranged broke shields to kick them
but otherwise didnt touch em
empty sluice
Is there a glyph for old animation of cs/wb? Hope so
steep osprey
Not right now
olive nest
F do you gus not have the dmg to skip that essence set
I think we do yes but I think people kinda randomly attack everything instead of tunneling boss
like at the end i mean
to try and skip
bronze elbow
yo are warbreaker and csmash the worst animation previews... ever?
holy shit what is this
shadow ibex
are you playing fury?
solo that second add set that spawns with web blades from tank
hopefully like 9 ppl arent playing aoe specs
brittle fiber
if in colossus m+ build are we meant to cleave in 2 target w/ SS or ms
had a brain fart earlier about it
brittle fiber
even with avatar torment thingy?
shadow ibex
they both have CDs so not like u are picking one over the other
soft sigil
On strictly 2T cleave will do more damage during sweep with FoB but you generate no colossal might stacks with cleave on 2T vs between 2 and 4 with MS depending on crits
But like was said they don't share cd so you'll just send both
nova marsh
First they nerf warbreaker
brittle fiber
On strictly 2T cleave will do more damage during sweep with FoB but you generate...
appreciate it
brittle fiber
last question for now, has anyone simmed new ring gems? my warlock friend has new bis
soft sigil
Stormbringer/fathomdweller/skipper's still sims highest for me on ST and aoe but the stat procs on skippers seem to be bugged and I don't know if sims account for that or not
brittle fiber
doubt it'd change that drastically for s2 but we'll see
soft sigil
If you meant for s2 I haven't simmed those, was talking about s1
brittle fiber
yea i meant for s1, i was saying i doubt that they'll drastically change for s2
especially with mastery and fatality
quaint otter
dont care the ring will be nerfed 50% s2 
steep osprey
lmao
strange perch
Guess I got shit taste
It is most likely broken/bugged. I suppose the intention was to point striking "weapons" inwards the enemy target after which armor breaking indication kicks in.
rare kite
it just feels so out of place
strange perch
Armour animation aside, silver weapons create unnecessary visual clutter, especially for "Warbreaker".
If this animation is here to stay It would be nice to have a "glyph" to replace silver weapons with copies of your own weapon akin to "throw".
strange perch
to give that aoe effect
This would make sense.
nova marsh
kinda surprised how many ppl hate the new animation.
Warbreaker is just a straight downgrade
Cs is....okay? I don't really like the weapon clutter
strange perch
Legion warbreaker was peak. Shatter ground.
nova marsh
But warbreaker going to ww from that dope ass slam is lame
strange perch
Warbreaker can either be ground shatter or weapon emerging from the ground.
quiet yacht
anyone know kf the ring will be abandoned next season or not
strange perch
Weapons that magically fall down from the sky screams LALADIN to me.
quiet yacht
Weapons that magically fall down from the sky screams LALADIN to me.
yeah
strange perch
anyone know kf the ring will be abandoned next season or not
It will be replaced by Raid(HC+) and Maze+ rings. Just like a ring (or was it a trinket) from mid. of DF expansion.
nova marsh
It's for the best
I really hope we don't repeat s2 where it's still bis for like half the roaster
Ha ha
quiet yacht
i kinda like the idea of having a forever scaling item for an expansion but thats me
brittle fiber
kinda surprised how many ppl hate the new animation.
wow players hate change
rare kite
wow players hate change
wow players hate bad change* ftfy
empty sluice
Well its fancy whirlwind now
minor gust
ppl are gonna love it or hate it
quiet yacht
i came back after a 3 month break literally today
minor gust
just how it is with animations
brittle fiber
tbh ive never paid attention to a wow ability in my life
strange perch
i kinda like the idea of having a forever scaling item for an expansion but that...
Dont remind me. I hate blizz for their removal of Panda capes and Draenor ring questlines. Outright tarded, timed FOS is enough.
brittle fiber
aside from bladestorm when i first played warrior because i thought "wow cool"
daring heron
new warbreaker animation an L
quiet yacht
i just think of garen when i see bladestorm
brittle fiber
nvm critcake said warbreaker sucks. I agree.
strange perch
Visual clarity of Warriors is why I like this class and dislike paladins.
nova marsh
i kinda like the idea of having a forever scaling item for an expansion but that...
Im the context of like a lego ring or cloak that's cool
quiet yacht
Im the context of like a lego ring or cloak that's cool
yeah
nova marsh
In the context of an item that's so ridiciously busted you keep it on you and it actively tanks your stats
Not so much
quiet yacht
heck i loved the legion artifacts too
rare kite
new warbreaker animation an L
thank you, now make a video before they release it this way
nova marsh
But like the rings would be need expansion wide support to feel decent
quiet yacht
like the one from drsgonflight and now the one we have now
its just a normal item at that point
strange perch
Itemisation wise I feel we can use more gear with unique effects and not just stat. carrots.
quiet yacht
idk i feel lkke thry should expand on it
nova marsh
Itemisation wise I feel we can use more gear with unique effects and not just st...
I'd like it we got more smaller sets
Like the way crest signet and trinket
quiet yacht
Itemisation wise I feel we can use more gear with unique effects and not just st...
and yes id love that
stat sticks are ok if i have like 1 but when everything is a stat stick its just lame
alao crafting feel a bit too strong no?
strange perch
Though the problem is rate of gear aquisition. WoW is not PoE. New gear becomes scarses further you go into the endgame.
minor gust
new warbreaker animation an L
Influencer gave his opinion time to change mine to match
quiet yacht
there are so many classes with craft weapons as bis
minor gust
animations L
quiet yacht
Though the problem is rate of gear aquisition. WoW is not PoE. New gear becomes ...
true i feel dry all the time...
i could spend days without a single upgrade
its not rewarding
empty sluice
Dance of death change when
quiet yacht
strange perch
zoinks chingus New hash just dropped - #notmywarrior
weak wave
Guess I got shit taste
I don't like it either. Silver is just not now our color.
minor gust
finally im not the only one
rare kite
thats actually my fav part about it I like the white/silver
if they made other abilities white/silver it would be fine. it's just so out of place. they should rework arms from the ground up, then they could make it silver
weak wave
Maybe it would look better if the animation was in the correct order
brittle fiber
arms warrior should be silver and have chips of metal flaking off our enemies when we hit
change my mind
minor gust
if they made other abilities white/silver it would be fine. it's just so out of ...
I wouldnt mind that all I want is just more flashy animations but I always felt blizz has held back on warrior animations being cool because no magic
theres only so much they can do on make weapon swing up or side ways or down
spark tapir
Legion warbreaker was peak. Shatter ground.
I liked that a lot, the voidy touch and stuff. who knows? maybe we get a glyph for that in midnight? Would fit. I dont count on it, but we can fantasize about it, right? :D
nova marsh
I'm the only one whoose fine with current animations
brittle fiber
warrior chuds when they get 2d red paint animations while paladins get yellow angelic bursts everywhere, floating hammers and swords coming up from the ground
rare kite
I wouldnt mind that all I want is just more flashy animations but I always felt ...
i personally wouldn't mind if they made one of the specs more "magical", tho i would also just like a full on rework from the ground up for arms
minor gust
It wouldnt be my choice btw to give a new animation to warbreaker. I thought warbreaker spikes was perfectly fine
coulda just been more visual thats all
minor gust
i personally wouldn't mind if they made one of the specs more "magical", tho i w...
stuff like demolish should have an explosion on the last hit because you smashing so hard
spark tapir
cs needed something I feel. warbreaker was cool already. Something more outstanding for mortal strike would have been cool. you know? the skill that has the same animation like half of the melee specs? xD
nova marsh
Tbh I like warrior because of how...not excessive visually it is
I don't like flashy. I'm simple and I get that's not evreyones thing
minor gust
idk I play things like zerker in lost ark or poe 2 warrior and just see what a warrior animation could be and look at boring wow
brittle fiber
if you aren't playing this during raid then idk what you're doing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJTyTFi9Tho
tender ermine
I really fuck with the breaking armour animation, I think the weapons are a little.... idk too much? Casting warbreaker should feel and look like I just beat these mobs with an armour breaking smash. What's up with all the ghost weapons? If the weapons were shattered armour breaking off of the mobs I'd say 10/10. Ghost axes just feel a little too paladin-y i suppose
latent moss
tender ermine
Holy looking spectral weapons manifesting around a target isn't paladin coded to you?
stone marsh
Hey guys, any guide on how to SIM?
minor gust
Holy looking spectral weapons manifesting around a target isn't paladin coded to...
idk if we think like that well never get cool animations imo
stone marsh
Is Dslice working for arms?
minor gust
Dslice is usually not peoples goto
hexed parrot
Is there a possible chance that we play battlelord in s2?
tender ermine
idk if we think like that well never get cool animations imo
I suppose that makes sense. It's cooler than a barely noticeable animation. Maybe it's just that the axes feel weird in the animation, like the armour breaks and then the weapons come down after
halcyon valve
Just saw the warbreaker animation
That owns
strange perch
I liked that a lot, the voidy touch and stuff. who knows? maybe we get a glyph f...
Really fitting, especially considering Stromkar relation to trolls of ZulAman and Void infusion from Silverpine woods.
tender ermine
I actually have a question about the animation, does it match your equipped weapons?
steep osprey
Is there a possible chance that we play *battlelord* in s2?
For Colossus yes
steep osprey
Battle lord is the one that makes OP reset MS
steep osprey
Yeah it feels nice on ptr
slow saddle
Battlelord talent needs something imho
boreal quartz
Am i tripping or is new wb animation rlly weird
minor gust
Am i tripping or is new wb animation rlly weird
majority seems to not like it
tender ermine
Am i tripping or is new wb animation rlly weird
You might have the same feeling as me, the weapons need to fall and THEN the armour breaks
boreal quartz
I mean old wb is crunchy this one is icky
boreal quartz
You might have the same feeling as me, the weapons need to fall and THEN the arm...
I just want the hop 
Rather than a fuckin revenge swing
steep osprey
Sussy animation
daring heron
jump stomp is perfect
could have just built on that
warbreaker 1.0 and warbreaker 2.0 were good
boreal quartz
Like I understand how arms animations arent very distinct compared to many other things
But like current WB is very cool
daring heron
this new warbreaker aint it
naive sage
Colossus smash bugs me more, it seems delayed and odd
boreal quartz
I dont think many other spells are jumped
IG fire mage in general but that's not intended
halcyon valve
Warbreaker/cs should still keep the jump
Maybe have the huge axe follow your own character and fucking slam down on the enemy once right there
Its just trying to be too fancy
There is cool warrior stuff you can do
And all of it isnt 4+ magic weapons just appearing randomly in the air with half a second of delay
halcyon valve
Also its bad how it makes CS appear like an aoe ability
It hits one target
Maybe two with sweeping
quaint otter
just imagine how sick tajshalak would look on belf fem
vast surge
jump stomp is perfect
Jump stomp and the colossus smash icon splits apart on the affected target’s head
This animation is ass
void sigil
Why not just add back what Legion had for WB... Cracking the ground up, spikes and shit with a big stomp. Unga bunga
versed carbon
yeah with this buff im talking like gn
steep osprey
Perhaps a bug
void sigil
This new WB is so weird
vital mural
dawn goblet
paladin dev for sure snuck on to the warrior team
dim basalt
These animations do not really look fitting for warrior dunno
Why does CS have additional weapons dropping, looks like it is some aoe ability
runic tartan
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-arms-warrior-animations-on-patch-11-1-ptr-colos...
this is just ugly. warbreaker and CS was looking fine.
quaint otter
These animations do not really look fitting for warrior dunno
I mean why they change a jump hit with fucking ww
halcyon valve
The concept isnt bad, but the execution misses the mark
quaint otter
We have a good anim now just improve it
runic tartan
did the same with sham tbh
idk why they like that WW animation so much
its not that pretty
gusty oxide
I guess it's easier to see for non warriors when an arms warrior is about to go Bursty
( pvp case )
thick kelp
could be but every pvp'er is running omnicd and tracking CS
steep osprey
Eagle
I typed Walhe and it autocorrected to eagle
@thick kelp thoughts on whether it’s a good idea to make MS give 2/3 (3 on crit) stacks of colossal might under 35%
minor gust
they have twice now
minor gust
they buffed colossus ST multiple times in 11.0 then they shot it in the knee again in 11.1
steep osprey
It was a healthy change but they really should compensate for it
The removal of execute from Might
thick kelp
needs major help after the execute removal
minor gust
if they didnt compensate it with this tuning patch they dont have anything planned
prob wont see that compensation buff till multiple weeks into the patch
steep osprey
They’ll do it eventually but who knows how long
Raid will come out and then they’ll see everyone’s playing slayer
Then buff it
steep osprey
needs major help after the execute removal
My idea is actually a good fix, no? Then buff demolish
But idk if that’s gonna make us not wanna press execute
Even with EP
I don’t have the sims for this type of stuff lol
steep osprey
Ok then my idea is poggers
Someone send blizzard
Fishy is finally here
What kind of feedback is blizzard looking at
Some classes have a big document or something
fresh spire
problem is, when demolish hits like 10m, and ms hardest crit is 11, kinda hard to just keep buffing demolish, the damage doesn't need to change, the return of a new feature to continue giving us additional cdr>damage
thick kelp
idek forums
steep osprey
problem is, when demolish hits like 10m, and ms hardest crit is 11, kinda hard t...
Well, more stacks is more cdr, no?
thick kelp
Another one is to bake it into AM
fresh spire
yeh which is exactly what we lost, execute give a supprising amount
thick kelp
naaah
steep osprey
Which is my idea
thick kelp
you would be looking realistically at
2 exe cdr + 2 MS cdr
per EP cycle
and ms giving 3 is still less
baking it into AM would make it less clunky
fresh spire
changing the current crit node to allow MS under 35% to cull extra cdr is the easiest fix
steep osprey
Yeah that’s fine
Makes me wonder what these devs are doing if we can figure out fixes this fast
And they’re getting PAID
to design stuff
Gimme the money
fresh spire
probs got like 4 people suffering with all these hero specs
plucky fern
warrior changes are done by ret pala developer on weekends as a sidejob
no other explanation
they definetly dont have a dedicated warrior dev
steep osprey
We have Archi and I think he can talk to the devs which is a good way to implement some good ideas
But even that’s not happening
steep osprey
they definetly dont have a dedicated warrior dev
No one has a dedicated dev, I don’t think
Some devs are just better and more familiar with some classes
plucky fern
well i think there are definetly areas of class tuning assigned to each person doing that
steep osprey
Warrior ain’t one of them
plucky fern
mages definetly have a guy or two who only work on mages 🤓
every patch 100 lines of magenotes
steep osprey
thick kelp
idk hunterst oo
plucky fern
and now shamans
thick kelp
they got rework on beta, in 0.5 and now in .1
steep osprey
idk hunterst oo
Not every spec did
steep osprey
how many more ench reworks will be
Wasn’t really reworked
Just a few things changed
Well, at least they won’t touch hunter for a while after every spec for significant changes at this point
Shaman too, mages
More time for other classes
plucky fern
shamans had more lines of text in two ptr builds than warriors had in an entire expantion
yeah definetly a few things changed
steep osprey
Yeah but you have to see that they focused on reworking shaman
They didn’t really do that for warrior
When they do you see a lot of lines
Everyone has their time for rework
The more classes get rework, the more time others get for theirs
plucky fern
but well im happy to see that update-war-within channel glowing again, didnt touch ptr yet, are we good now?
thick kelp
fucking goated now
plucky fern
hope they will not nuke arms before release like they always do
maybe this time
new tierset looks dope
steep osprey
steep osprey
Slam 📈
steep osprey
Walhe check this
thick kelp
Looking
thick kelp
noo
steep osprey
Is it buffed slam
Oh tbh it’s execute range too
So you don’t use slam that much
Nvm
steep osprey
What do you think
steep osprey
Ok so another 30% slam buff
sharp wyvern
Well rn execute DMG is above mortal strike on bosses
empty sluice
Fatal mark ugh
plucky fern
you mean on live or on ptr?
sharp wyvern
On live
steep osprey
They giga buffed ms since ptr
sharp wyvern
Just wondering if execute rotation changes based on this
snow flame
Check this
ok now hwat
sharp wyvern
We just doing 2x exe then MS again?
steep osprey
Looks similar
sharp wyvern
Also fatal mark is fine if we don't play ToM
steep osprey
We just doing 2x exe then MS again?
Yes
snow flame
fuck tom
finite wasp
tom is useless
thick kelp
ok now hwat
spec into slayer
finite wasp
it used to be good for st but now it just doesnt work
sharp wyvern
Oh its collosus aswell
snow flame
spec into slayer
I'd rather spec into fury thanks
sharp wyvern
snow flame
steep osprey
They’re going to buff Col dw
slow saddle
Execute is high yet doesnt give stacks
steep osprey
EP
thick kelp
Jugg does things
slow saddle
Ofc but sadness
thick kelp
Slayer is only 200k ahead
steep osprey
Execute is high yet doesnt give stacks
I had an idea to make MS give more stacks post 35% to offset change
thick kelp
plucky fern
slayer is 200k ahead in ST now?
steep osprey
Slayer is only 200k ahead
Buff bleed node
thick kelp
slayer is 200k ahead in ST now?
Yeah
plucky fern
and in aoe colo still ahead?
thick kelp
yes
thick kelp
and in aoe colo still ahead?
kinda even ngl
colo takes it in mass aoe tho
for certain
plucky fern
this spec so boring
steep osprey
Did the devs think Colossus was gonna be fine with the Execute change? 
What kind of incompetency are we dealing with here
thick kelp
bold to assume they think at all
plucky fern
Did the devs think Colossus was gonna be fine with the Execute change? <:deadge:...
i bet their thoughts were 'we buffing ms colo will probably be op' (its not)
slow saddle
I had an idea to make MS give more stacks post 35% to offset change
Yes pls
plucky fern
agree, its actually so simple to 'fix' colo, just make demolish hit like a fking truck and the whole spec idea is to play around it, wouldnt be bad
slow saddle
Nono demo just needs 1 morr modifier
Kek
Mp works on demo!
So u alwayd op op demo kek
fresh spire
Where’s Archi so I can tell him this
It's already been suggested
steep osprey
Oh, he knows?
slow saddle
Give op more power!!
steep osprey
OP is already strong as fuck on ptr
empty sluice
11.2 for sure
thick kelp
Everything in the books has been suggested
steep osprey
Yeah but do the devs know
steep osprey
We don’t have a document for feedback
empty sluice
Deadly calm replacement soon for sure
slow saddle
Blizzard loves op
steep osprey
me and fishy even have like 8 pages worth of feedback written down
How do they know to access it
steep osprey
me and fishy even have like 8 pages worth of feedback written down
Send please
slow saddle
So suggest stuff that makes op better
thick kelp
How do they know to access it
forwarded it to archi and praying
steep osprey
forwarded it to archi and praying
Did he see
steep osprey
steep osprey
empty sluice
Buff warbringer (:
slow saddle
Yeah
fresh spire
Buff warbringer (:
To far!
slow saddle
Warbringer bad
thick kelp
new WB animation is so garbage btw
slow saddle
Yes
sharp wyvern
Its better than the default one
sharp wyvern
Should have just gave us legion one
steep osprey
new WB animation is so garbage btw
90% they’ll revert it
empty sluice
new WB animation is so garbage btw
I Hope there is a glyph for old animation
fresh spire
I liked my little angry stomp
sharp wyvern
Warbringer is just odyns fury for arms now
fresh spire
I'm wondering if the wb animation is wrong one
steep osprey
I’m gonna write a post on forums after nap
fresh spire
As its just cs with ww
thick kelp
5head
quaint otter
steep osprey
5head
Have you tried writing a post on forums with the feedback document? Assuming you’re NA
thick kelp
me na
steep osprey
I AM LOSING IT
steep osprey
Is fishy na
empty sluice
Also can We do something with SoS pls
empty sluice
Remove it and bring back trauma to that place
remote ledge
90% they’ll revert it
They never revert anything
steep osprey
My fault; forgive me
Lmao I’m listening to a song called My Fault, that was funny
Unintentional
steep osprey
They never revert anything
They reverted ele animations in legion after people didn’t like em
steep osprey
Remove it and bring back trauma to that place
I have trauma from this
thick kelp
Baseg
rare kite
They never revert anything
I think they will this time. Everyone is hating on it
steep osprey
They do revert animations people don’t like
steep osprey
Oh did you guys see the animation of glacial advance
fresh spire
So thr weapons smack the target not fall outwards
steep osprey
New one on ptr
thick kelp
didnt see
rare kite
Oh did you guys see the animation of glacial advance
Yuh pretty cool
steep osprey
It’s peachy
remote ledge
I think they will this time. Everyone is hating on it
I kinda like warbreaker one, cs is trash tho
magic canopy
bro thats crazy