arms

[gaunt owl]

you dont spend it you just do dmg like its 40 rage so no

[weak rain]

I know how it works, I think it would be cool if they made it work with those talents

[brittle fiber]

So far, i feel like they could:

• move berserker shout and piercing howl, especially since tremor totem and tar trap are in the middle of their respect class trees
• buff the shit out of wrecking throw and shattering throw in PvE. miss that ability
• Make initimidating shout baseline
• Merge Concussive blow into a choice node with honed reflex
• Reduce bitter immunity cd

and id be happy

[weak rain]

bitter immunity is so shit, not even funny, it should be 30 sec cd

whats the play for the next raid so far btw? fury or arms ?

[quaint otter]

Both look dog

[brittle fiber]

warlock

[thick kelp]

🔮

[gaunt owl]

its trover for this xpac

Fury had 1 good season

now we are dooming

[naive sage]

It never did and it was a pain when we picked ToM

[boreal quartz]

Zerk is baseline fuck my Team

[weak rain]

Speaking of ToM, it's so shit, why don't they buff it?

[boreal quartz]

Fuck tom

[brittle fiber]

because it's shit

[boreal quartz]

Dont want it

Design doesnt allow it to be good

[naive sage]

Iftk it’s just too much better

Also % strength instead of absolute value 🤢

[weak rain]

Nyalotha absolute value tom KEKW

iftk is boring honestly, jsut as avatar

[naive sage]

Good times

[gaunt owl]

% str would be ok if we did spend some rage 😄

[boreal quartz]

RIP SOS

[gaunt owl]

and actually STR isnt that great for Arms

[boreal quartz]

Rip reck on CS

[weak rain]

With current rage generation it just doesn't make sense tbh it should be twice as powerful as of now

also SD procs fuck it up hard

[astral yarrow]

We complained a lot about DF arms, but look at where we are now

like complaining about lab in poe1 and getting trials in poe2

[daring heron]

Arms gets worse every iteration

[astral yarrow]

Downhill since legion

WoD kinda blew

[daring heron]

WoD was awful

[thick kelp]

Arms got beaten up for the sins of Legion and since then has been a crippled person moving forwards in a wheelchair

[daring heron]

sins of legion is nothing compared to enhance rn

[boreal quartz]

Cripple enhance

[daring heron]

also we got knocked down real quick in tomb still ended up good though

[thick kelp]

Massive build today tho on PTR

[weak rain]

Shaman within continues

[daring heron]

[thick kelp]

It will include a FURY nerf and a MAGE rework

Potentially some RET changes too

[astral yarrow]

spriests need another rework honestly

[daring heron]

just adjust the value on their aoe thing again

[thick kelp]

They need +1 shadow crash or smth

[astral yarrow]

yeah need auspicious spirits to go back to 15 or 10%

[thick kelp]

u mean mind link

or wtf

[astral yarrow]

fuck

[thick kelp]

spirits was spooky ghost damage

[daring heron]

spooky ghosts look cool

[astral yarrow]

auspicious spirits is what you play sprist for

[thick kelp]

DF s2 sp

oly ghost

[daring heron]

surrender to madness s1 legion

the priest went ham with that

[thick kelp]

Viklund R1 Xavius StM Shadow priest pov

[daring heron]

last phase with those tentacles

brrrrrrrrr

[thick kelp]

:mhm:

Great quality

[daring heron]

[astral yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-balanced-gif-3226445978144001245

[brittle fiber]

were you saying you had an injured wrist a week or so ago?

[daring heron]

shoulder

i played too much beat saber

it's fine now

[brittle fiber]

ah yes, i feel my shoulders and wrists are going downhill through muay thai

[thick kelp]

Critcake gym streams soon

[dim basalt]

Shoulders are like the dumbest muscle group for most people

My shoulders are blessed by genetics fortunately, my wrists on the other hand...

[daring heron]

doubt

i went this morning though

[fresh spire]

Ngl I hate new trials

Honestly the major thing I dislike of poe2. Everything else sorta fine. More just time to bake it in

But damn trails suckkkk

Gimme lab bacm

[gray herald]

I like them (i give someone 40 ex at level 20 and am fully ascended)

[astral yarrow]

pre nerf chaos temple was something as well

[scenic umbra]

[viral locust]

Meanwhile 2024

Can they balance just 1 season where boss damage is like within 2% DPS or something pretty please

[quasi torrent]

theres frankly too many variables

[astral yarrow]

If you mean pure ST i agree, if not, thats impossible

[quasi torrent]

its certainly possible to do this on a "bis gear" situation at precisely 3:45 long fights or w/e

but then class X is better here or there

works better with the mechanics, loses less from stuff on this fight etc

[astral yarrow]

any sort of fight design will always throw any sort of ST balance out the window

[quasi torrent]

its just not feasible really

[viral locust]

I mean for pure ST kinda feasible, you nerf outliers faster and buff others sooner rather than 2 months into the tier. Ways to do it without affecting aoe too much also. I know there is mechanics and stuff like forcing melee out of range and forcing caster movement stopping casts etc but it's doable

Like shaman has been far exceeding in all forms of content even after adjustments. MM was busted for weeks. They are just too slow to react

I also get that every spec is never going to be same as one excels say st and one at aoe, but you should have one spec that's similar to other classes i.e arms could be matched st DPS and fury the more bursty aoe specialist

Perhaps not feasible to do it perfectly but they could deffo smooth outliers quicker imo

Yapping a bit but uncapping would probably make balance easier in regards to ST Vs Aoe also, could balance skills easier uncapped Vs a 5/8 capped class and such

[weak rain]

hunters and shamans are xd tbh, agree on that

[fresh spire]

As much as I agree it's also.not hard to buff mega underpreforming classes with an aura every week to try lift/lower the extremes

Even if its just 1% from top 1% in bottom

Lemme just roll out an aura once a patch cycle

[halcyon breach]

Arms is used to aura buffing

It's how Blizzard fixes Arms

[fresh spire]

Like there is no reason why shaman is that far ahead and can easily be brought in line by a 3/4% aura while giving that to the bottom 6 to bring them up

[tacit crystal]

ik why

I KNOW

FOSHY I KNOW WHY

[fresh spire]

Imagine saying " we have all these dials we csn constantly twist " ion but twists them once every 9 weeks

[fresh spire]

"Shaman within"

[tacit crystal]

dev tram who refuses to play game past +4s or normal raid

[soft torrent]

Always found that line of reasoning a little funny, since they rarely twist knobs and let outliers go on for far too long

Wasn't that the whole point behind these talent trees after we lost the 3 choice bar style talents. Was to give more knobs to twist

[dim basalt]

I mean they did achieve that - they just dont use them

[brittle fiber]

GREETINGS FRIEND

[astral yarrow]

Its easy enough to balance ST, but very little of this game is ever ST, so you get giga outliers like DK because their giga good cleave build is also their best ST build

that is impossible to balance with the amount of variables

[brittle fiber]

Demon hunter where their entire kit is AoE and are forced to be benched for ST fights

[fresh spire]

Easy enough to aura classes into a point at least they don't feel so damn awful at the same time. Someone's always got to be last. Just doesn't mean the overall for raids means they should be 15-20% behind the best class

[astral yarrow]

incorrect opinion

mage and warlock must always have 2/3 specs top 5

[fresh spire]

Think it's fine aff warlock on average is always the worst spec every tier?

[astral yarrow]

cant have all 3 specs top 5

that'd be unfair

[fresh spire]

Doesn't mean it should always be last more often than others:(

[eager sigil]

aff lock still punished for snapshotting sins

[astral yarrow]

no, its the coolest spec by far

[fresh spire]

If anything 3x dps specs should be punished for not being able to be flexible to heal or tank

[astral yarrow]

the atrocity they did with malefic rapture

[astral yarrow]

i am comitted to dps

[fresh spire]

[astral yarrow]

that is only funny if you know the classic meme

[remote ledge]

Mage and warlock are NOT the same, mage is always top tier in both m+ and raid all time, every tier. Warlock is sometimes very good in raid and has maybe 1 season every expansion

[astral yarrow]

woe is me, im only in every key one season pr xpac

[fresh spire]

Mage whines the most on forums

Moment they aren't number 1 on logs

[astral yarrow]

boomkins will gaslight you into believing SL S2 was ok

[fresh spire]

Wasn't s1 the most fucked boomkin moment

When convoke could call down new moons every time and do unbelievable dps

Also s2 was likely the kiss curse druid

As they had that frenzy shit right. Stop casting dps goes bye bye

[shadow ibex]

We really need to make post asap

[astral yarrow]

yeah but they werent warlocks s1

[shadow ibex]

We need 4pc changed

And jugg changed

Jugg priority

[astral yarrow]

for s2 you just dont get mechanics

[shadow ibex]

If we can get jugg changed this expac is success

[naive sage]

Mages rogues and retri are the real enemies don’t blame shaman for a bit of spotlight

[astral yarrow]

Ret is never good though

[visual lark]

well depends on situation - ret has its moments in aoe and even cleve fights

[naive sage]

The damage output/stupidity of the spec ratio is over the acceptable threshold

[astral yarrow]

not like fury is much better in that regard

[visual lark]

for ret i agree- that spec is dumb easy, and not even fury is that good anymore- i don't what it is but fury just feels high apm for medicore damage

[astral yarrow]

its was not whether fury was good or not, but that fury requires the same very low amount of collaborating braincells to play as ret

[teal fossil]

Yeah ret was a meme until the df rework right

They haven’t been good for that long

[visual lark]

ret i think is even lower with GCE macro now with holding 1 button i can pull off whole rotation

[astral yarrow]

so like fury rotation in S3 DF

[astral yarrow]

ret is better than they usually are, but still not good

"good"

they arent enh/dk levels in keys or anywhere like fury and enh in raid

[visual lark]

pretty much, 1 butting and you go though whole rotation while you can do all the utilities you need

[naive sage]

True but we still love our dumb brother

[visual lark]

i do want to know if Bizard plans on touching arms ever in terms of balancing and the clunckness

[astral yarrow]

arms got changes every ptr build except last weeks build where prot got all the love

[teal fossil]

None of the changes do anything

[astral yarrow]

tier set is zdps

[teal fossil]

That’s the best part

[visual lark]

prot is weridly good but slowly clucky, i tested with it a bit and felt weird going colosus but i think it will be solved with haste tuning

[thick kelp]

its atleast 3

cmon

[teal fossil]

The funny part is that, if they crank the recharge rate by like 10x (an example) it would be a crazy dps increase out of execute but 0 in execute

[thick kelp]

no

the recharge rate does nottin

[visual lark]

i might have gotten luck but i had 90% uptime on shield wall and avatar while going unmovable object talent but i think it just might be bug

[teal fossil]

That’s surprising because the prot channel said the proc can overwrite cast

[teal fossil]

That’s why I said 10x so buff it by 1000% as a hypothetical

My point is that no matter how high that part of the set is tuned

It’ll still be nothing in execute

even if your op just had no cd outside of execute

[thick kelp]

if the dmg part worked with the stacks too

[teal fossil]

Yeah if dam work with stacks then we good

[visual lark]

thats why i said it might be just the bug because unmoveable object triggered avatar on 2sets shield wall procs

[astral yarrow]

i was disingenious im sorry

[dim basalt]

That was definitely not working like one and a half weeks ago

[astral yarrow]

the melee dps thing is just whack for a lot of classes and i hope they either change or buff them to the moon

[icy mulch]

You're also counting on blizzard to fix it all before live.

[visual lark]

i can't say for sure since this last week is when i tested it

[dim basalt]

Would be weird if it was now in

[icy mulch]

I wish they would hire someone like me for class balance and design.

[dim basalt]

But that doesnt explain the high uptimes as the 2 set procs like once a minute or so

[icy mulch]

I'd fix a lot of things.

[astral yarrow]

Kill mage and revert arms to legion 1:1

ToS arms specifically

[thick kelp]

Based

[icy mulch]

I also wouldn't let a meta become so all encompassingly toxic.

[astral yarrow]

remove aug

if i found a genie

that would be my 3 wishes

[icy mulch]

Aug really did ruin the game.

Ppl are just too blind to see that.

[astral yarrow]

I think the spec is cool and pretty fun, but it just doesnt really work in wow i guess

cant have it increase tank/healer power when living is the only factor that stops key progression as dps isnt an issue

cant have it do all of its damage through others cause clueless casuals think its contributing nothing

can never know how much it contributes without logs

[visual lark]

i will send you the build i went with maybe you can dupicate it and see it the results match

[astral yarrow]

can never know for sure how much they contribute in logs cause hooks are broken af

[dim basalt]

I cba playing prot with these nerfs 😦

[thick kelp]

Ele moment

2x augs make u magically do more damage in logs

[astral yarrow]

Bro i hate good aug players

we somehow recruited 2

[visual lark]

well atm looks like prot might be the only warrior that might get to represt warriors in meta some what

[astral yarrow]

the 1 we had in DF S3 knew Fatality was reattributing weirdly and giga abused it lol

[thick kelp]

Jelly

[astral yarrow]

guy was farming rank 1s off of me and our sub rogue lol

magically i farmed rank 1s the 2 weeks he was gone

please confirm me in my confirmation bias

[thick kelp]

I can confirm

[astral yarrow]

thank you

[thick kelp]

so this is why i never got r1's on the earlier aug bosses tvis tier too

[icy mulch]

If it's a clueless casual, then the Aug isn't getting much out of them.

[astral yarrow]

no but they are getting some, but details shows hardly anything

[brittle fiber]

I already did. 9 views (we’re making it)

[fresh spire]

I love my tier bonus

[brittle fiber]

70% of the feedback forms are just warriors

[fresh spire]

🙉

Good

[thick kelp]

70%

last time i checked the undrmined forum had 1 whole post about arms

ith 3 comments

[brittle fiber]

I said warriors, not arms

[thick kelp]

same energy when we were the only class to not have a official feedback thread for tww beta

[brittle fiber]

No one plays arms

[thick kelp]

warrior = arms

[brittle fiber]

Warrior = fury = legion 7.0.0 Havoc

God i miss how simple demon hunter was

[fresh spire]

I want lethal blows back

[thick kelp]

susg

[astral yarrow]

love me some jank

[fresh spire]

I like me this gif. Real true pog moment

[brittle fiber]

[daring heron]

shirley insane ptr changes today

[thick kelp]

[untold trench]

I hope arms rots At least untill I see my buffs first

[icy mulch]

Share that copium you smoking!

[naive sage]

Legit tweaking rn

[olive nest]

Inb4

[fresh spire]

It is ptr day so hopefully we get something

Colossus needs a heavy st pick up to be closer to slayer

I think fury also needs big St buff still

[olive nest]

I’d like to see demolish own in ST and MT this patch personally

[fresh spire]

Depends if they do something to counter execute not giving cdr

[olive nest]

While also fixing its quirks

[daring heron]

large fury sustained multitarget buffs plz

[fresh spire]

Ofc we have no idea what they are planning

[olive nest]

Like mobs being able to just walk out of your demolish

[fresh spire]

Sustain is bad? Or that just thane being doen bad

As I think Greg showed st for thane being pretty behind slayer

[daring heron]

fuck it send 8 target meatcleaver and 8 softcap claps

[fresh spire]

Fuck yeh

[olive nest]

8T cleaver

That sounds wicked

[daring heron]

yeye

[fresh spire]

I wonder if they made it 8 with square root scaling how it would be

Then again. After seeing bloodsurge upsated

Id rather not see that

[wild kernel]

When was the last time arms had a good tier bonus?

[olive nest]

Clapper tierset was kinda cool

[teal fossil]

Lethal blows isn’t too bad at all

Especially for a first season set

[wild kernel]

Yeah lethal blows was nice, but I mean good as in big dps increase

Like enh shams had an insane bonus this szn

even if the gear was ugly af

[teal fossil]

Does the dps from set really matter though after like 4 weeks in

There’s no difference between a 100k dps spec with a 50k dps set

Or a 140k dps spec and a 10k dps set

Because everyone has the set pretty fast

[fresh spire]

S4

when they giga over buffednit

S3 was a good set fundamentally though the numbers was poop

[teal fossil]

Yeah if you want a boring aura buff tier it’s s1

[fresh spire]

Big aura buff to ms damage

Ms actually fucked

[teal fossil]

S3 also has so much tuning levers

It’s so well designed

You can buff 5 targets, st, or uncapped all separately

If they wanted to

[olive nest]

Me want

🦍

[river ridge]

Have to agree DF S3 set bonus is one of our better more recent sets. That being said a lot of our sets have been kinda super passive as of late. So wasn't super hard to beat out others imo.

[teal fossil]

Yeah arms tier has been passive since the re introduction of tier

Lethal blows changed something slightly

[latent moss]

s1 was fun cause giga numbers

but s3 was a lot more fun on aoe

if they just made sd affect am and tom and gave us 2 sd stacks

getting "lucky" in exe phase getitng 3 sd in a row during cs right as avatar is coming up is peak alt f4 moment

[fresh spire]

Can't wait for the value of thunderclap to be better than overpower on aoe as dn sucks and mp is weak

(I've not confirmed this but clap was pretty good on aoe in s1)

[daring heron]

also if you op you risk losing streak stack

[fresh spire]

Don't remind me

The rng is wild. I did some Dummy testing with walhe doing 2:30 uptime and one of the pulls I did I op when opportunist or execute never ms unless brutal finish/2xmp-2ep when Cs up and it didn't proc once

(Training Dummy died instantly as it was low level was testing bl/jug execute feels with finishing)

[charred brook]

I miss old dreadnaught…

I loved it so very much

[vast surge]

What was old dreadnaught?

[halcyon valve]

Same thing but it gave you a second charge of op

And did more damage

[vast surge]

I hate that they made us choose between strength of arms and dreadnaught.

[brittle fiber]

Nah, og dreadnaught was 2 charges and casting OP buffed Ms/exe

[vast surge]

Martial Prowess?

[charred brook]

Wasn’t it baseline too

Or a lot easier to talent in to

So even on st you could have some cleave

[brittle fiber]

Think it was SL that made it the cleave

[vast surge]

So old dreadnaught was dreadnaught + martial prowess

[brittle fiber]

Pre much

[vast surge]

I understand the lament

[brittle fiber]

Deadly calm still being a talent

[charred brook]

Choosing between defensive stance and second wind is crazy

Or Rend and massacre lmao

[brittle fiber]

Think you just went bounding stride

[vast surge]

Choosing between 2 charges, a self heal and a stop is pretty nuts

[brittle fiber]

And warbreaker was the go to in all content

I hate to say it but im kind of nostalgic over those trees

[teal fossil]

Cleave was just not great back then

[timber lynx]

Cleave sucked during those trees

[brittle fiber]

Not at all

[timber lynx]

I dont think u ever picked cleave there

Over the other 2

[brittle fiber]

I think deadly calm was picked for like 1-2 patches in legion because it lined up with bcry

[teal fossil]

Collat had some niche in exactly 2t

[thick kelp]

old fob

[brittle fiber]

This > fatality

Isnt that just the base slayer talent now though

[timber lynx]

Id take anything over fatality

[vast surge]

We have demolish now, so everything is peachy 🙃

[quaint otter]

this > everything in last row

[serene hollow]

that affect would be cooler if it duplicated the spell used at reduced effectiveness. Mortal strike landing twice could help colossus single target feel a bit better

like back in shadowlands

[errant flame]

I miss MC

[teal fossil]

It’s not great by itself but it interacted with lots of systems neatly

[timber lynx]

Focused rage was cool too

[errant flame]

Nothing like being in an arena and hearing that double woosh sound

[magic canopy]

The sound effect was great too

[icy mulch]

Indeed, that sound was pure satisfaction.

https://tenor.com/view/seal-seal-of-approval-approved-approve-approval-gif-26999148

[astral yarrow]

i've played with sound off since BFA when i had to listen to WW spam during CS in Nyalotha

[marsh needle]

is colossus or slayer better for lower keys? like 10 range

[olive nest]

I’d recommend colo purely because it’s more fun imo

To my knowledge slayer can do more ST vs colo does more aoe

[vast surge]

I recommend slayer because demolish sucks ass and slayer is more consistent.

And you have no risk of mobs being one pixel out the ability’s effective range and the spell failing completely and ruining your day.

[olive nest]

That’s definitely true

It sucks 🥜 when the mob is pulled away from you or leaps right after you cast demolish

Fairly easy to avoid if you always send it into the big health prio target

Non of them really move that much

Except one that comes to mind witch is the mobs in the mists maze

Defenders I think they’re called?

Idr

[vast surge]

Slayer, you can be a true warrior and zug zug to your heart’s content

[vast surge]

Fuck those shitters right in the arse

[timber lynx]

Yeah the ones that dash out to the ranged

[vast surge]

They charge, they have area denial

[olive nest]

Those mobs are truly painful

[vast surge]

Motherfuckers are the classic example of blizzard over complicating things.

If you have only one ranged party member guess who’s eating back to back charges.

They paid a sub to play the game not spend the entire pull being knocked back and dying.

[timber lynx]

Its no wonder healers hate healing

between season of getting 1 tapped and miserable mechanics

I cant see how healing is even fun

[vast surge]

Most healers probably have a god complex + masochism kink

[olive nest]

I haven’t touched healing since og mop as Rdruid

It just doesn’t look appealing to me whatsoever

Respect to those who do it for us

[timber lynx]

Fr fr

[dim basalt]

disc was really fun in legion and bfa

[vast surge]

I did some pres evoker healing, tbh when you get it right and you execute your planned cds. It does feel good.

But a lot of the time it felt like I was drowning.

If the team was really good, I was bored. If the team stepped in every swirly I was praying to the old gods and the new to save me.

[naive sage]

It was an azerite power in BFA called seismic wave

Which was absorbed by dreadnaught in SL

[gusty nymph]

New pre build today or?

[fresh spire]

could be today or tomorrow, they have announced some changes with mobs though i'm unsure if thats something hard coded or hotfixable. Last week we had an announcement like this but server didnt go down till following day (then it spent the whole of the next day dead) , would be nice if it did come today 🙂

[gusty nymph]

Tyty @fresh spire

[misty sandal]

Manifesting arms updates.

https://tenor.com/view/cult-the-craft-ritual-gif-11800002

[untold trench]

Ya guys need to manifest harder, yo.

[junior lava]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-mario-plumber-marioandluigi-supermariobros-gif-27552254

[untold trench]

[gusty nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/harder-spock-star-trek-the-original-series-hit-me-harder-gif-23503761

[scenic fjord]

in execute range as single target slayer, if i have two stacks of EP and two stacks of LB, and also two charges of overpower now, do i send one overpower to open up another potential tactician/lb proc or send mortal strike right away? assuming boss isn't going to die in the next global

[teal fossil]

Mortal strike

[scenic fjord]

copy that

and how many globals should i spend fishing for x2 LB? usually if it's not proccing after 2-3 more executes i send x2 EP and x1 LB

(i know this is kind of irrelevant with s2 incoming but just trying to parse as high as i can >:O )

parsed 95 on normie sikran last week which felt good as a new arms player who's never played melee. many thanks to this discord lol

[teal fossil]

Infinite globals

You follow the rotation

[scenic fjord]

ah okay

thanks!

[shadow ibex]

we really need to raise pitchforks yesterday

im not going into fuckin s2 with this ass 4pc

yay i used OP because I had no rage in execute, so it ate my fuckin 20% MS buff

to boost OP the last prio button

https://tenor.com/view/mc-gregor-conor-ufc-boxing-gif-21215303

[minor gust]

Then start making mass forum posts cuz unfortunately we all know yelling in here does nothing.

[untold trench]

If you want some effect, you would need to first build a large mass of twitter followers. Then use that to funnel into getting your opinion heard through there. A lot more impact that the WoW forum or here. As twitter got a bigger chance to reach the ear of someone in charge minmax the twitter game
(or just get filthy rich IRL, then spend a ton of money)

[minor gust]

Both those options really hard to do

[untold trench]

One day the chosen warrior shall rise, become president of the USA and decree by law that Arms shall get attention.

[minor gust]

Waiting for arms sucks video from Crit he did the DF season 2 tier set vid and it got changed next week.

[latent moss]

double time impending victory storm bolt

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-martin-scorsese-its-not-cinema-not-cinema-bad-movie-gif-24147653

[latent moss]

@daring heron please

make an arms sucks video and arms will get a rework in 2 weeks

[magic canopy]

arm tier

[latent moss]

no deswind no arm tier

deswind come back with big overalls beating meta specs

[olive nest]

I swear I’ve had like 5 or 6 executes without a proc

[minor gust]

[olive nest]

[shadow ibex]

You can go the entire buff duration without proc

Its very possible to have it expire

[minor gust]

That's my favorite btw when that happens

Got I love arms

[fresh spire]

arm

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-dance-dragonite-pokemon-pokémon-dragon-gif-15256949897431855513

[shadow ibex]

My phone broke so I can't sign in on forums cuz authenticator

Trust or I woulda today

I thought about it otw back from work then went to sign in and couldn't

[minor gust]

When your spamming execute waiting for that last stack but DW and rend is about to fall off so you mortal strike anyways.

[gaunt owl]

[shadow ibex]

At very least if SD proc no longer gave jugg

I consider this bullshit a success at least

[minor gust]

I fucking hate the forums so I refuse to post on there. You give your honest feedback on why you dislike the direction of the spec then you get some guy who's played the spec for 10 minutes or only plays it as an alt says it's great and perfect and that I'm wrong for making the post.

Then you get the people who just come in to talk about how their spec is worse and deserves more attention.

[shadow ibex]

then block them and keep posting about what matters

im too old to get riled up over some fuckin clown on the forums man

i play this game too much to be worried about talking about arms cuz some fuckin general poster is gonna show up

[latent moss]

i just quit

easier

cba writing on a forum when they give 0 fucks

[quasi torrent]

They need to make Mortal STrike be king again

[daring flicker]

#MAGA

[sacred zodiac]

MMKA

[minor gust]

The clowns are annoying but they make things worse. Some feedback dev is just gonna see the post see all the clowns disagreeing and just ignore the post

[quasi torrent]

make arms great again make arms great again make arms great again

[latent moss]

great arm make

again

great again arm make

remove arm

[shadow ibex]

u rather just play this bullshit then?

whats the worst that can happen its just typing in there instead of in discord

gonna do it anyway

not like its costing bread or something

[minor gust]

It's all a waste of time anyways Blizzard is happy with the current state of warrior

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-training-day-you-motherfuckers-gif-11399174

[minor gust]

[untold trench]

[minor gust]

Last forum post I've made was about the shitty legendary in DF

Those were dark times

[untold trench]

Last I made was about how OF is going to need a buff, and it is a good thing TT is gone

[brittle fiber]

hm

[nova marsh]

What's that? Spec identity?

Arms can't have that!

All warrior specs must use the same abilities

[vast surge]

Didn’t critcake make a video in the beta where he was so tilted by how shit demolish and arms are and nothing changed? The times are a changin’… haha.

[vast surge]

Demolish exists. The dark times wears a new mask.

[shadow ibex]

Anything but jugg

[strange perch]

wh each and every class has to be tied down to a button rotation?
cant we have a set of basic skills that give different bonus outcomes for different pressing order?
Skill X Y Z = result 1
Skill Z X Y = result 2
etc ...

• set of utilities like CC saves, spell reflects, stuns, etc

... too late to apply to work for Blizz

[misty sandal]

like ff?

[strange perch]

I played FF14 only briefly

But similar system exists in the old Conan MMO

i am actually curious how can it be implemented in WoW.
Surely if Dracthyr press+hold is possible so should be skill combos.

https://tenor.com/view/eclutter-the-life-changing-magic-of-tidying-up-does-it-spark-joy-does-it-make-you-happy-gif-5685391

[nova marsh]

Templar strikes

[lucid apex]

Ninja was a wild ride in ff. Loved playing that class.

It would be cool to have a templar strikes like ability for arms. Mortal strike could be two part combo that has a cool down in-between each press. The first hit does good dam while the second hit does huge damage. With the downtime between button presses, you could weave in overpower buffs or executioner precision. Could be a fun time.

[minor gust]

I wouldnt call templar strikes a combo abillity your pressing the same button

but yeah Demolish shoulda been designed like templar strikes and not the awful legendary no one liked

imagine if Demolish worked like templar strike and the animation was bonk bonk BONK

[brittle fiber]

just 3 lots of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDLmYZ5HqgM

[lean geode]

[minor gust]

better than the weak sound effect demolish has rn

[lean geode]

Bozo was it you who said demolish should be like rampage where it's an instant cast but the animation has a duration

That was an insane cook

Demolish rooting you is omega cringe

[minor gust]

not me

but yeah fist of fury demolish works too

[lean geode]

FoF would go hard too

Kinda solves the issue of the mob moving while you're channeling too

[minor gust]

so many different things they could do but knowing blizzard they wont change how it works out of spite

you guys didnt like the legendary well have it forever

[brittle fiber]

MFW when they added demolish and nexus dagger one shotting in mythic into the same tier

[lean geode]

I mean tbf playing colossus on kyveza is villainous behavior to begin with

[brittle fiber]

can't wait for archimitrios's article on 11.1 changes to arms and it's just "we live for a bit longer"

[minor gust]

you forget the great undocumented change of fatality scaling with cds

teehee

[brittle fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1326809946997919805.webp?size=96&animated=true

even better than the spell reflect animation

cant wait to drop my juggernaut stacks so i can pool avatar, trinket and CS for fatality

[minor gust]

this spec needs god

[brittle fiber]

god died when Kevin Jordan, supposedly the warrior designer, got bored of balancing arms

(i dont actually think he's involved with retail class designs)

[vast surge]

Olympus has fallen.

[strange perch]

i've rerolled warrior but its geared for fury with lots of haste/mast gear. is it worth swapping to arms for the bosses in raid where its better, even if it sims lower for me atm?

[rare kite]

no

[chrome otter]

i thought i was playing arms right, but i was playing it wrong. so i need someone to give me the run down on arms rotation. so my understanding is that the correct rotation is:

• ms on cd, execute priority otherwise, and op if everything on cd.
• during execute phase, execute until ms is usable, and op if there's nothing else.
  i thought i was suppose to stack 2 stack martial prowess and 2 stack ep. but all logs i've seen for execute phase was just execute till ms, and that's basically it.

either that, i'm too dumb to play arms

[halcyon valve]

Yeah you just spam execute by default

Execute is more valuable than op: rage spent reduces colossus smash cd, and you got juggernaut

[astral yarrow]

can just quick sim and look at the ability sequence to get a general idea

that or look up a guide

guides are good

[chrome otter]

i look at all the guides, maybe i didn't fully understand them, but i'll take a look a the sequence for my sim and see

[astral yarrow]

It also sort of helps looking up the APL for a given spec to try to understand the conditionals for what and why you are supposed to do things

although reading APL is pretty sweaty

[tacit crystal]

apl

[vast surge]

Where do I find the APL?

[thick kelp]

simulationcraft.org

[radiant cape]

No warrior updates yet :(?

[fresh spire]

Likely tonight

If anything is coming this week

[magic canopy]

yeah before mythic testing

some slight copium before bed

[fresh spire]

Kinda fucked as they got testing next 3 days from one day getting canceled

[viral garden]

They hate warrior don't expect something

[fresh spire]

[median scroll]

walhe can you sim the ovinaxx egg with different values instead of the optimal use?

and if its possible how to?

[thick kelp]

thewarwithin.ovinaxs_mercurial_egg_initial_primary_stacks= 0-30 (default 20)
thewarwithin.ovinaxs_mercurial_egg_desired_primary_stacks= 0-30 (default 20)
here is overrides
first is how many primary stacks you start with, second is how many primary stacks you maintain the buff at
in sims it plays 20 primary stat 10 2ndary

[median scroll]

cheers

[weak rain]

big ptr build today

[gusty nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-tony-stark-gif-26471287

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hood-fortune-teller-future-prediction-gif-25704815

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-gif-16508948274886257497

[icy mulch]

Howdy partner.

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/trickmint-gif-26356956

[icy mulch]

It's -28° C here this morning.

[fresh spire]

Wot and I thought 0 was bad enough

[icy mulch]

Thankfully I had my vehicle plugged in, started up fine.

[astral yarrow]

Sure the electricity didnt freeze in the cord?

Solid elctricity is dangerous

[brittle fiber]

Has been 38C and over 80% humidity over here with power going out

[untold trench]

I would take the -28 any day of the year over that

[brittle fiber]

Yeup

My neighbours definitely saw me naked today

[untold trench]

Coat man strikes again

[naive sage]

There will be no ptr dev notes and even if there will be any, they will not bring anything new for warrior, especially not for arms. Glad to have been helpful. See you next expansion. ♥️

[untold trench]

Blue that man! He speaks the words of the devs

[gray herald]

where on earth

are u sure ur not in hell

[icy mulch]

[fresh spire]

The plug is frozen in the port

[naive sage]

The plug is stored in the balls

[brittle fiber]

Warrior’s in a really good spot guys

[brittle fiber]

Australia So close enough

[olive nest]

-28C bruh!?

[wanton sierra]

35ºC here, we melts

[teal fossil]

I’m only at -13c

[tribal kindle]

''We happy with the current state of warrior'' patch note day

[gray herald]

it's like consistently 0-4C here

[icy mulch]

Welcome to Canada. Lol

[sturdy hearth]

Classic DF patchnote

[quaint otter]

Aura buffed 6%

[candid pecan]

i'll take it, where?

[tacit crystal]

me when its 18 C the entire time

[pearl jasper]

I seem to be getting colosus smash back roughly 20 seconds before avatar for my second avatar use. I just hold smash for this?

[rare kite]

No. Never hold cs

[pearl jasper]

Noted, thanks. Am I doing something wrong then? Should that second smash overlap with avatar?

Or do you normally get two casts between avatar?

[finite mantle]

Says it’s 7 but feels like 1 here (middle of Florida )

[olive nest]

Arms owns

[thick kelp]

@astral yarrow do u live bloodbound horror ring thing with dbts + reflect as arm

[tacit crystal]

me when im in south florida

currently 15 C

poggers

[olive nest]

Isn’t rare for Florida to get that cold?

Like state shutdown practically?

[tacit crystal]

nah

we get at most 1 week of "cold"

[finite mantle]

Pensacola got 7 inches of snow as of early this morning (previous record for the state was 4)

So yes 100 year type shit

[gaunt owl]

LOL

18 CM

[thick kelp]

@gaunt owl

[gaunt owl]

thats what we has in a normal snow day

i love snow

the air smell so fresh

[gaunt owl]

yes ping me

[thick kelp]

@gaunt owl

[gaunt owl]

@thick kelp

[thick kelp]

@gaunt owl

[eager sigil]

do i just go full st dam on ovinax

first time im actually pulling that boss tonight

lole

[gaunt owl]

its all about destroying the adds

turbo nuking them into oblivion

[tacit crystal]

^

[eager sigil]

other warrior can do that

[thick kelp]

This is the most ethical

ovinax page

[tacit crystal]

isnt ethical colo?

[eager sigil]

do you just slam everything on cd or does it line up for adds?

[tacit crystal]

you have to line for adds

just roar warbreaker bs each set

[eager sigil]

do i need to hold on pull for that or no?

[tacit crystal]

only avatar

pull would be roar warbringer bs

[eager sigil]

ty

[weak rain]

Sidearm instead of barb training ?

[thick kelp]

swap that

i built it in 10s

[astral yarrow]

I’ll test tonight if I remember

[fresh spire]

Test before me so I can use the tech and not die 🙏

[gaunt owl]

99% sure you die

from death

[tacit crystal]

just ask for gs

🙂

[gaunt owl]

exactly

[olive nest]

Wait you can die from death

Woe

[icy mulch]

You can die of boredom if you play Ret.

[untold trench]

^ real

[charred brook]

https://i.imgur.com/jQslpNt.png

what do we change here

for a ST fight

i dont like choosing between 2 hand spec, cruel strikes, and wild strikes

[teal fossil]

Not really much to change

A lot of it is really sim question

And we don’t have great sims for 11.1 yet

[fresh spire]

think your missing one skill point from bottom

also Cruel is pretty shit compared to Wild strikes

[charred brook]

took a point out of crackling thunder

for uproar

[teal fossil]

Yeah that’ll do it

[teal fossil]

But yeah the random 2 pointer nodes on the bottom is why I said to sim

Hard to know which one is better

[shadow ibex]

wild strikes is rage

cruel is nice but yea i would imagine WS autopick over it

from addtl rage income alone

[teal fossil]

Probably

[radiant cape]

Guesing there's no new mwarrior changes right

[slow saddle]

Warrior isnt survival or ret

Blizzard thinks we are good

[radiant cape]

If we play Barb on Diablo 4 everything will be okay

[olive nest]

“Warrior is in a state we are pleased with”

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-frog-gif-27124187

[naive sage]

Understandable. They are pleased with it being shit. They are sticking to their line and that's it

[slow saddle]

If it said fury warrior i would agree

Fury plays well rest is tuning

Arms needs god

[minor gust]

Fury has been in a pretty good state. It's only problems really are it's awful capstone talents.

Arms on the other hand needs God and needs to be burned to the ground

Nothing about it is in a good state

[quasi torrent]

fury plays well enough but its bland cause it has been similar to this since fucking legion

[slow saddle]

Agreed, but id take arms legion

Also can we have ancient aftershock

Or 45 sec spear

[minor gust]

No God no

Give us new shit

[slow saddle]

Dude, they cant cook

[minor gust]

Bringing old shit ain't gonna fix anything

Unless it's a legion revert

[slow saddle]

Maximum same spell worse color

[minor gust]

They can cook if they put in actual effort they did it with shammy and mm this expansion

Every Arms player should be asking for what MM hunter just got a full brand new vision of what an Arms warrior should be

[rare kite]

windwalker as well(ignore tuning)

[minor gust]

Yeah there's a lot of specs they cooked on this expansion

[fresh spire]

Fury plays well

besides st

[minor gust]

WW is actually a lot of fun

[fresh spire]

and blizzard is too scared to buff it while nerfing WW/Meatcleaver

ST fury is so easy to fix

yet its been so long in that shit spot its wild its not been fixed

[sacred zodiac]

woke opinion

[minor gust]

BuT fUrYs StReNgTh Is BuRsT aOe

[last inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-spinning-gif-5630084690849603105

[sacred zodiac]

fury strength is whatever the fuck the design team wants it to be good at right now

[last inlet]

isn't that like every class/spec?

[fresh spire]

thing is

they have gutted fury burst now with odyns being slapped + TT being swapped

it has 0 excuse to not fuck on st next patch

But you know it isn't

[minor gust]

Classic blizzard maneuver

[fresh spire]

:classic:

[sacred zodiac]

they have a few specs whose pattern has p much never changed

[last inlet]

we talking this expac? or historically all expacs?

[minor gust]

Like arms two target being so weak compared to other two target specs

[sacred zodiac]

most expacs i've played at least

p much always had flat damage graph outlaw rogues for example

[last inlet]

outlaw/combat rogue hasn't always been flat dmg.

hense the word combat

[sacred zodiac]

don't think outlaw has ever had a bursty pattern since legion but shrug idc much

[last inlet]

thats legion, what about BC?

but w/e

yeah arms two target cleave needs some love 😦

[sacred zodiac]

i was a child during bc i very specifically specified expansions i've played

[last inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[sacred zodiac]

and i don't think classic era class design has much to do with post mop class design

[minor gust]

There's no reason to think back farther than WoD game was completely different back then.

[last inlet]

yeah thats true.....

sorry.

[latent moss]

gut

all mass aoe

and buff the fuck out of ww

and give a lot of funnel

make fury a 5t monster

miss me with this burst aoe shit

boring ass gamelpay

[slow saddle]

We dont have a dev

[tacit crystal]

[sacred zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1306014550822490182/hertype.gif

[tacit crystal]

spngus

[slow saddle]

Arms was a big hitter specc... then we were big bleed spec? Now we in between?

[tacit crystal]

arms is nothing

[sacred zodiac]

does current arms do bleed dam? i dont think it do

[minor gust]

There is no single dev they def work on everything together. Which is why it feels like only 1 or 2 classes get real attention at a time

[sacred zodiac]

clueless

[minor gust]

[tacit crystal]

hi can you help me

[sacred zodiac]

hello

[tacit crystal]

why did i only get rank 98 on my hc sikran kill

😦

[sacred zodiac]

noob lol

[tacit crystal]

i only messed up 3 global

[eager sigil]

did you get pi and 4 guys buffing your ring?

[thick kelp]

Crit more lmao

[tacit crystal]

i think i got parried a few times

[eager sigil]

noob

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wtf-side-eye-cute-cat-gif-4703834963635709315

hes been reading the forum posts

[minor gust]

Shoulda had a trickster rogue slave

[tacit crystal]

actually i found the reason

i only got 6 rts procs

[signal isle]

are you guys using demolish on CD with or without CS on single target?

not sure how to play it when i can't get 10 demo stacks quickly

[shadow ibex]

spending fuckin 2 points

for 10% dmg on bleeds

god damn this shit is cursed

[minor gust]

gotta nerf bleeds more clearly

[still arrow]

howdy gamers
havent played arms since SL since it is ⭐ not good ⭐ compared to fury right now, but I'm relearning for 11.1/future.

Whats the move with taking Thunder clap vs just using rend natty? I'm seeing it be kinda mixed with what people prefer in top logs

[minor gust]

the only differene between tc and rend is the intial dmg. Rend does double. So its player choice do you want to get .01% dmg increase or do you want to save a keybind

[dire hinge]

if you wanna be lazy about it: take Tclap if there's adds throughout the fight, Rend if it's pure single target, make a macro that toggles between them based on talent choice

[dire hinge]

for what it's worth, the rotation only cares if CS is present during execute phase. If you're not in execute phase, just send it

[thick kelp]

colo st apl is piece of art

[dire hinge]

no conditions, full monkee

beautiful

[fresh spire]

even better next patch

same goes into slayer

[minor gust]

[dire hinge]

ngl i really dislike the multiple proc potentials overriding the priority mid gcd, it's why i moved off of enhance years ago

i got boomer brain, let me press MS in peace

[last inlet]

slayer safe next patch? or atleast so far?

[fresh spire]

slayer ahead rn

[last inlet]

[fresh spire]

colossus still needs its buff to compensate for shooting execute

[brittle fiber]

There’s gonna be another ptr build……right?

[eager sigil]

no they launch the patch like this

[brittle fiber]

ah great, a celestial barrage nerf

[fresh spire]

trackers picked up a new build but ptr still up rn

[shadow ibex]

surely

new 4pc

holy fuck

[fresh spire]

time will tell, ptr just went down

[shadow ibex]

having 3 sec recharge on OP in exe

[fresh spire]

im not being optimisitic after last week

[shadow ibex]

[fresh spire]

But damn im praying for some stuff

[rare kite]

4p buff. overpower 25% instead of 20%

[fresh spire]

[shadow ibex]

ping me when build

doing another elden ring greatsword run

[fresh spire]

[rare kite]

what kind of greatsword? or do you mean the greatsword that is literally just called greatsword

[brittle fiber]

hedged bets goes to 3 stacks...............

[quaint otter]

man that elden ring game is fun with big weapons until late game...

ds2/3 was better

[dire hinge]

having a large weapon and being bad late game?

it's the way of the arms

[rare kite]

big weapons good lategame as well. only thing elden ring has a few really broken weapons like blasphemous blade

[minor gust]

you dont understand Arms is clearly scaling right now

[thick kelp]

not the S word

[dire hinge]

two handed S word

[minor gust]

Fatality scales with cds huge were scaling so fucking hard

[dire hinge]

please no

[minor gust]

please no this is reality Hroth

where have you been

[rare kite]

soon they will make it crit as well(not guaranteed)

[dire hinge]

honestly i've been AFK for a few months with IRL things
been playing like piss recently and got very rusty

but things are clearin up

[quaint otter]

they re good if u go full build otherwise its just snoozefest waiting for pattern that wont punish u

[minor gust]

Fatality works with cds now so next we need it to crit 🙂

[quaint otter]

shit like twinblades just pump

[rare kite]

nicee, you come back just in time for fatality being affected by cs avatar and mastery. mastery part is good tho

[dire hinge]

i hate it here im going back to IRL where the numbers inside the computer can't hurt me any more

[rare kite]

don't you work in IT?

[minor gust]

I too cant wait to stop pressing execute to align my fatality pop with cds

[dire hinge]

kinda, IT adjacent

[rare kite]

close enough. numbers still hurt you

[dire hinge]

i saw someone put it really good the other day

"you can pay your rent with damage to your body, or by taking constant physic damage"

[rare kite]

tru tru

can also do both

[tacit crystal]

when did this change happen

🙂

[fresh spire]

[tacit crystal]

hi fishy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1306014550822490182/hertype.gif

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-hsr-honkai-star-rail-hsr-castorice-gif-8066283343502947040

[rare kite]

hidden buff before first week of 11.1 ptr

[shadow ibex]

where build

[tacit crystal]

i cant wait to yell at my raid leader to tell everyone to not hit the boss for me

then have him say fuck you

[fresh spire]

soon hopefully, launcher hasnt had patch yet and the realm list not long come up

[fringe moon]

So is the fatality buff only on PTR or is it on live?

[fresh spire]

ptr

been in since first week

but we wasn't sure if intended or accident

we still dont

guess when we get our round trip of next fix ups we will know if its intended to stay this way or will be reversed 🤷‍♂️

[tacit crystal]

if it happens

[brittle fiber]

how the fuck are you meant to get valorstones

[tacit crystal]

what i typed will occur

[tacit crystal]

playing the game

🙂

[brittle fiber]

im at 100 gilded crests but need like 600 valorstones to upgrade everything

[dire hinge]

yeaaaah, i started working on an alt and it's constantly witheld on upgrades via valorstones.
Raiding, dungeons, devles, world quests, etc all give them in various amounts, so it's sort of a pick your poison thing to grind them up.

[quaint otter]

do worldsoul if u have echoes

did 1k stones in like 20 mins

[brittle fiber]

in a group or solo?

[quaint otter]

solo

[dire hinge]

solo is fine

[tacit crystal]

i had no valorstones when only doing +10s

[quaint otter]

~300 per run

[brittle fiber]

i only have the normal one unlocked though,not the heroic or mythic one

[quaint otter]

the 5 echoes one

[brittle fiber]

did a few, now out of echoes and im still short another 1200 valorstones for 3 mythic pieces

https://tenor.com/view/cereal-throw-angry-guy-out-of-milk-gif-14265412

good shout though

[tacit crystal]

time for m+

[brittle fiber]

time for study

i was matching an arms warrior on nexus dps in our reclear last night despite having a 9 ilvl difference and shit trinkets

[quaint otter]

[tacit crystal]

[shadow ibex]

idk why valor still exists when we have crest

can jut tie the pre-crest upgrades free and to an achivement for doing all heroics or w/e

[tacit crystal]

simply isnt a reason

[shadow ibex]

anyone got elden ring on pc btw i need another greatsword to powerstance and not waiting for ng+

[serene glacier]

I got heroic egg, my toon is baby 625 ilvl so I have to use it until transmiter. Obv I want the mainstat before I go bussin, but when is it recommending to freeze, wait until I'm capped on str or is it really necessary to press it before a certain cooldown instead of during?

[marsh needle]

u dont wanna press it during in case u gotta dance around while ur cd is running

[shadow ibex]

where build

[swift crown]

They forgot to nerf Fire Mage so it's delayed

[tender ermine]

In raid does arms favour slayer still?

[jagged star]

how is arms looking for season 2? my raid team needs me to play warrior and trying to figure out what spec to prio

[rare kite]

well the good news for you is both specs look very very bad atm. so take your pick

[untold trench]

I wouldn't worry about choosing. You will have plenty of time to adjust as it goes live to sort things.

[jagged star]

sick lol

[minor gust]

anything can change between now and launch

come back and ask again in 11.1

[jagged star]

true though I feel like historically blizz will ignore warrior for awhile

[minor gust]

while true just not worth lookin at whats gonna be best rn

[jagged star]

true

[rare kite]

We feel that Warriors are in a good place overall(ignore me Red i'm just dooming)

[jagged star]

all g I feel it

Ill just have to practice alot and get really good at my rotation andsuch

[minor gust]

any good warrior will play and learn both specs for prog

[brittle fiber]

It's so over. We're so back. It's so over. We're so back. It's so over. We're so back.

[minor gust]

its pretty common both specs have their place somewhere like this tier

[jagged star]

true that is relevent

yeah I deff have to get gear for both

[minor gust]

same gear for both

not big diff

[jagged star]

oh thats good

I tried arms tonight on our reclear it was rough

[rare kite]

based on the design of the fights next tier arms should be the play unless very undertuned ofc. tho i personally hope it won't be

should be the play for most fights*

[jagged star]

right makes sense, though i dontreally understand the arms rotation if im being hoenst

I feel like I can just hit whatever isnt much rhym or reason

[brittle fiber]

welcome to modern arms

[rare kite]

yeah... it doesn't feel great

[jagged star]

oofers,

and then you get to end of fight and you just mash execute

[minor gust]

When I say this I mean its not a big deal secondaries are pretty low impact just collect rings/neck for both specs

[brittle fiber]

that house of cards trinket is gonna be pretty good if we're running mastery for fatality right?

[rare kite]

it's still a 2m trinket for a 90 sec class. it's a ton of mastery tho

i wouldn't be surprised either way. prob will get nerfed before live, basically every dps wants it

[fossil thistle]

💀 I feel bad, im only managing 1.4-1.6m dps during P1 of Queen

[minor gust]

First rekill

[strange perch]

in the arms rotation, do you only use execute when
Your target has 3 stacks of Marked For Execution
You have 2 stacks of Sudden Death
Your Juggernaut is about to expire
?

if there is only slam or execute proc, does execute have priority over slam?

[dim basalt]

And if SD is about to run out

[dim basalt]

No

[craggy iris]

I would send the execute proc and just have slam always be the last button u press, with rage to spare ofc

[next flame]

SD procs should be prioritised to keep up jugg few things are more satisfying than entering execute phase with 10-15(depends how lucky or unlucky you got) stacks of jugg

[craggy iris]

Feel like we get a execute proc often enough atm that if u prio it over slam u gonna keep the stacks anyway

But maybe im just lucky

[slow saddle]

Man collosus is actually better to play than slaye

r

feels wise

only its dmg is low 😛

[minor gust]

Good thing they are nerfing it by removing execute giving might stacks with no compensation.

[dim basalt]

But that is just bad advice

You don't even lose anything by holding Execute as long as the other conditions are not met

So why would you send it for no reason?

[naive sage]

I feel the opposite

[slow saddle]

u do ?

i dont have to focus on jugger stacks

they will fall off

i just play

send shit when ever

[naive sage]

I really like slayer especially when RtS procs

[slow saddle]

to me its prob just playing ravager

[naive sage]

I don’t use jugg in keys

[slow saddle]

ah i was thinkin in raiding

i was trying the col raiding build

[naive sage]

Ah sorry, I hate warrior in raid this expac

[slow saddle]

haha

well collosus actually feels ok to play dmg is just bad

vs slayer

and slayer feels like a big game of keepin stacks up

[astral yarrow]

rolling up to ansurek p3 with 8 stacks and managing to chain them into execute

[thick kelp]

Sniping executes on the small spiders + add

[slow saddle]

all this is less fun but ye

i still say make juggernaut stack in 5

not 15

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-gif-16508948274886257497

[slow saddle]

again, just so the dropoff isnt to big when u loose it due to random shit

or make it last through combat ( ONLY in raid )

At least they nerfed collosus execute so u can never get to play that ( and no buffs ) 😄

[stone marsh]

Hi guys, colossus or slayer for a crappy new alt running 8-10s?

[eager sigil]

whatever you like

both work fine

[stone marsh]

Nice

Which one has better ST with the M+ build?

Or again the same?

[thick kelp]

slayer

[stone marsh]

Arigato sensei

[quaint otter]

slayer is easier just send it...

[shadow ibex]

Remove jugg

[teal fossil]

The two wolves of 99 jug vs no jug

[shadow ibex]

Who tf wants 99

Kill them

[teal fossil]

People who want to afk pre 35

[weak rain]

remove jugg I agree, buff execute by 45%

easy

[teal fossil]

I’m ok with it being like 5 stacks of 9

[rare kite]

People that think the argus video was an accurate representation of what 99 jugg was like on an average fight(idiots)

[teal fossil]

Argus video ruined warrior for decades to come

[rare kite]

Ye...

[misty sandal]

Argus? As in the raid? Or some content creator 🤔

[teal fossil]

The raid

Have you never seen the execute video

[misty sandal]

I don't think I have. I've seen a lot of videos of warriors povs during legion and that specific video may have flew under my radar.

[eager sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMqvb8QiUk

[thick kelp]

no

stop

that was fury

anyway

[misty sandal]

Oh...