arms

[wet cloud]

guys i need help with 2nd craft, my first was a glove with the crit embel, whats some good options for 2nd? i will add crit embel on it too.

[rare kite]

those are not thumbs... they're dick toes

[minor gust]

im sure theres a blizz employee rn gooning to those dick toes

[rare kite]

prob, anytime i have pointed out the toes to troll/zandalari players they get pretty angry for some reason

[slow saddle]

Looks good man

Metaltoes!

Though doesnt match set at all

[icy mulch]

They're so cute!!!!

[slow saddle]

True gamerdogs!

[brave sapphire]

🫶

[chrome kernel]

based

[shadow ibex]

Where

Build

[eager sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/766349238941777931/1328819662716407879/caption.png?ex=6788173f&is=6786c5bf&hm=b410336f6b12bb16a6620c6a55bb21b5ff9d539094c0fb0eebb12ef17879d07b&

[olive nest]

Waiting for that “we redesigned warlords torment entirely” again

Or Blademasters

[minor gust]

Blizzard redesigning for warrior just means revert to back how it used to be. But id take old blademasters and warlords back

[chrome kernel]

lul

[olive nest]

Legion arms

Or DF arms

I liked those

[brittle fiber]

Choose your fighter: metal gear ray helmet or the what the fuck are those boots meant to be

I hate the boots so much

[fresh spire]

WHAT ARE THOSE

[chrome kernel]

what about bfa s4 arms

[fresh spire]

mortal striking

[olive nest]

Condemn spam was fun for a bit ye

Idk if I’d want that forever

[dim basalt]

they wanna please furries without making it obvious

[fresh spire]

fury(ies)

[dim basalt]

[olive nest]

[chrome kernel]

they need to remove vulpera

[olive nest]

Resisting the urge to be a chad diaper gnome

[brittle fiber]

Lorewise vulpera are much better than the damn tier set

[fresh spire]

they already got the shoe transmog

just go zandalar

expose the beans

[dim basalt]

I was gonna say that

[brittle fiber]

Or be a mechagnome and have like 2 of the pieces visible on you

[deft sinew]

Hey all, for single target raid, can I use thunderclap to apply rend or is this a big no no?

[wet cloud]

single target slayer build, has no thunderclap, only rend, so you apply rend using rend.

[olive nest]

Just put rend on the TC keybind whenever you’re in ST spec

You could even make a macro and use the TC icon if it messes with your brain seeing the rend icon

[wet cloud]

anyone has a wa to track this? idk why the game doesn't show it

[shadow ibex]

replace slam with rend

[brittle fiber]

where's that guy that's adamant about no bleed on arms despite it being a thing since vanilla

[olive nest]

Kong goes ham with the slams

[chrome kernel]

do people actually play plunderstorm

[olive nest]

I do it’s good fun

[wet cloud]

i played one match and give up last event, im going to invest more time into this one and see if i like it

[teal fossil]

its a debuff

[teal fossil]

its a very small no no

[deft sinew]

Feels like the GCD is smaller with rend over thunderclap, might be placebo but dps jumped up 40/50k on dummy rotation

[wet cloud]

it appears on the enemy? i never saw that, gonna try to see next time

[olive nest]

I would assume all of the popular Weakauras packs for Warrior have a EP stack tracker

[teal fossil]

thats def placebo

if rend had lowered gcd then you would rend>ms lol

[wet cloud]

i thought about that but i don't want the whole pack, so maybe i could find just this one

[olive nest]

I bet if you put executioner precision in the search bar on wago* something pops up

Haven’t tried it myself I’m on mobile rn

[eager sigil]

Premade auras feature works well for if you just need 1 thing

Its like 4 clicks to make

[olive nest]

Ahh yeah good call I always forget about premade auras I have never made one

[eager sigil]

Banger feature

[wet cloud]

why is this hunter thing on icyveins arms guide lol, maybe just wrong talent namae

[random ibex]

how much better is a transmitter really?

[wet cloud]

hmmm, looks like its the same name of this hunter passive

[teal fossil]

honestly thats like the same shit

[eager sigil]

Pretty good

[random ibex]

were extending on silken now so ill never get another chance at a mythic transmitter, so thats probably the play. but the fact that i have a sac, and weapon

[eager sigil]

Whats your other trinket?

You got mark or shard 639?

If so id probably go sac

[random ibex]

i have 626 trinkets

sac, shard, mark

[shadow ibex]

Rend over slam

[eager sigil]

Then take either one

Both you won't see again probably

[olive nest]

You could use gear compare

[random ibex]

currently simming right now

[olive nest]

Try a 626 sac with 639 transmitter
And 639 sac with 626 whatever you got

I bet transmitter wins

[fossil thistle]

If you keep betraying people w/ transmitter, I wouldn't use 😄

[olive nest]

It’s so good for burst

I was very against it but after getting it and trying it I don’t mind it at all

Very easy mini game

[fossil thistle]

MQM also good for burst windows

esp cause you know exactly when you can/can't use it

[random ibex]

transmitter wins

[fossil thistle]

Well yea, Transmitter will always win in sims over the other 3 options lol

[shadow ibex]

ovinax egg gang

[brittle fiber]

damn actually a lot of people simming today

1.4k queue

[fossil thistle]

If you're not nimble and quick you're doing it wrong 😎

[fossil thistle]

This makes it better

[quaint otter]

https://wago.io/uLDjyWff7

[brittle fiber]

idk what that is but it's ominous

[fossil thistle]

Show's on enemy debuffs

[fossil thistle]

lol

only $10 these days. TBT

[brittle fiber]

https://wago.io/GIlgKIFKH/7 i use this one, tracks all 3 ms buffs. would highly recommend getting rid of the moan sound effect

[brittle fiber]

raidbot premium, wipefest premium, warcraft logs premium

i need wipefest premium because i review my raid's logs but i also refuse to spend extra money on wow like that

[fossil thistle]

Don't forget your monthly sub

[fresh spire]

holy

[brittle fiber]

no warrior changes on PTR

[young raft]

What is best Citrine for yellow slot? Stormbringer or Crackling?

[woven wasp]

for that to happen we actually need a new ptr build

[random ibex]

😦 sadge

i think they started late

and i give them credit for at least trying

[fresh spire]

id love to have that in my vault next week

sat with hero sac/hero tranmitter still

[shadow ibex]

got myth drust axe tempted to craft new embellish now that i have x2 639 for fury

[olive nest]

Do it do it

[shadow ibex]

would just be crafting for queen prog and idk if i cba just raid logging right now

[olive nest]

Vers threads not to bad with double myth wep

Oh for queen prog I dunno about that

[shadow ibex]

playing fury on it

[olive nest]

I’m still using ST embellish for queen

[smoky kayak]

I would go full ST setup on Queen; the P3 adds need to die, but that's more about control and CD timing than anything else

the P1 and P2 adds are all pretty trivial

[last inlet]

should i remove rend from my bars on the M+ build?

idk why im asking but... its been bugging me i guess.

[eager sigil]

i have rend/tc on the same button

[last inlet]

i would too, per build but was just wondering if.... you know what nvm i got my answer

xD

as i was typing that

[lean geode]

Hello again arms enjoyers, colossus support has been added for WoWAnalyzer (at least for single target situations) including support for demolish CD and cast efficiency as a module separate from the APL checker. Those changes also slightly improve the readability of the "inefficient cast reasons" on the timeline for both colossus and (arms) slayer via better filtering for unhinged procs

Sample screenshots:

I probably won't be making any more updates until 11.1 when APL stuff is updated

[visual fern]

[brittle fiber]

where's the salute emoji

[fresh spire]

o7

[random ibex]

are there any cool M+ builds that dont involve cleave? it feels weird 😦

[rare kite]

yes #fury

[brittle fiber]

im so ready

[misty sandal]

What the hell is that thing?!

[quasi torrent]

log off

[finite mantle]

finally a good mog

[shadow ibex]

i think robot gnome that weighs like 3tons with mega robot strength is cool too bad they look like that

worst possible scenario

[dire hinge]

thanks dude!

[lean geode]

🫡

[minor gust]

@dull siren First kill how much do you shit on me

Queen

[lean geode]

tmy has like 1.9 and 2m right

show the boss dam breakdown

[minor gust]

you wanna see boss dam?

[dull siren]

Queen?

[minor gust]

queen yee im free finally killed it

[dull siren]

8 kills xdd

let me see

1.8mil overall

Warrior 1

Warrior 2 1.8mil

@minor gust

Silken court is a lot more tho banger boss fight

Chatting

[lean geode]

YUGE

[minor gust]

Nice I didnt do to bad then

[lean geode]

Disagree

[dull siren]

#BlueTeam

[lean geode]

(my guild still can't do dispels after 250 pulls)

Blue team thane is gr8 tho bc I have no responsibility

Brain off just blast

[dull siren]

My third warrior can't do good on Ansurek

for some reason

[lean geode]

Top of details across our wipes tonight

[dull siren]

Batchest

Idk got spymaster on my boomy now so F warrior

outside of raid

[minor gust]

RIP

[reef glade]

holy washed

[dull siren]

Ye can only parse on 2 warriors chatting

Third and forth down the drain

[reef glade]

:cahtt

nvm

leaving that

[tacit crystal]

@dull siren help

i cant time keys

[dull siren]

Ff

[tacit crystal]

bro

the public needs help

if i dont play tank

i have actual patients

if im playing tank my dps knock shit behind me and kill me

like what the fuck

[quasi torrent]

skill issue

[quaint otter]

second is ww

[brittle fiber]

Cant wait for warrior to get the plunderstorm leap like monk has the kick

[minor gust]

nah I want a talent that turns bladestorm into the fire tornado

[tacit crystal]

i tiemd a key

[quaint otter]

[odd palm]

our guild is progressing mythic silken court, I'm on red team with web duty, gray parses and bottom dps all night

[slow saddle]

M+ slayer im playing EB atm. is SKS better ?

[thick kelp]

Sorry to hear that your raid lead hates you

[odd palm]

its a tricky boss comp-wise because you need 3 ranged + 3 melee to be web partners, and DKs are on team blue gripping adds

[eager sigil]

you dont need 3 melee to do webs

[odd palm]

and when you get paired with a mage, they dont give a damn if you cannot be in melee range

[eager sigil]

we had 6 ranged do it

[odd palm]

3 ranged from team red and 3 from team blue?

[eager sigil]

blue team never does webs

but idk maybe youre playing it differently

[odd palm]

oh, so basically the 6 ranged from team red, 3 of em pop their web instantly and then run to partner the other web

I think we first tried with all-ranged webbers but then team blue could not look where the ranged reds were and were always running into them. so we changed that whole red team moves together

and pair 3 melees with them because our raid leader know our BM hunters cant be trusted 😂

[viral locust]

Never invite a boomie

[dapper juniper]

guys

if i blade storm in boss adds while im targeting boss my mortal strikes will hit boss? or i twill to adds too?

[eager sigil]

think it prefers your target

[magic canopy]

it prefers main target

[woven wasp]

if your target is in range, it will hit your target

[quasi torrent]

STOP MAKING SENSE!!!!!

[sharp wyvern]

About intervene do casts/magic count as ranged attacks or does it only intercept physical ranged attacks?

[eager sigil]

Magic doesn't count

Some spells count

[sharp wyvern]

Great...

[eager sigil]

Like nw first boss frontal thingie

[shadow ibex]

We had melee do webs too

Idk where that shit came from but I hope awful things happen to them

[solar quarry]

I did webs it was nice. Something else to do to help me stay awake

[fossil thistle]

I also hate being red team

[shadow ibex]

At least got to play colossus

Most fun I've had all tier in raid

[zealous schooner]

what talents you guys like running for m+

ive been playing these

[latent moss]

drop second wind or something for thunderous words

[last inlet]

is SkS required for slayer or can i pick something like exhilarating blows?

for raid

single target

[eager sigil]

its not required but it will do the most damage st

so if you dont care about that

[last inlet]

bleh, i really hate it, but i guess ill keep it

and i do sadly xD

[eager sigil]

same

[last inlet]

we take it for aoe too?

[eager sigil]

think some m+ builds have it

not sure tho

[last inlet]

yeah it says it does just looked it after typing that, its ok 😄

[deft sinew]

So I saw someone suggested a wa for tier set execute phase.

I need a bit of help on ST raid pre-execute. Is MS the absolute highest prio, so much so that you never try to get 2 stacks of overpower before using MS? And execute builds up a few effects, are these absolute musts to keep applied or are they likely to drop off now and then pre 35% boss health?

Many thanks for any help

[eager sigil]

pre execute you ms on cd

juggernaut you wont keep till execute unless you get turbo lucky

[deft sinew]

Ahhhh maybe that's why I'm lagging behind, I've been trying to build up stacks thinking it'll make MS deal far more

[teal fossil]

if you absolutely juice juggernaut you can probably go into execute with some stacks up

[eager sigil]

yea with some but youre not expected to keep them from pull to execute

[teal fossil]

ye

[zealous schooner]

can you guys give me the ultimate zug zug build

[gaunt owl]

context of zugzug is required

[zealous schooner]

a cool m+ build

so i can zug

[gaunt owl]

what do you prefer

Slayer or Colossus

[zealous schooner]

slayer

[gaunt owl]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/talent-builds-pve-dps#mythic-talent-build

here you go

[zealous schooner]

thats the default >_<

[trim lintel]

that the ultimate default zug zug

[zealous schooner]

rip

[lean geode]

Slarms in keys sounds cursed

[olive nest]

Biz’s colossus build is the most fun Ive had with arms in m+

[zealous schooner]

where can i find it

[olive nest]

I just went to his Rio page picked a recent arms dungeon (CoT since that’s what my key was) and exported it

Just realize he might be running a certain talent for a specific reason

Overall feels good though for me

I really disliked skullspliter builds personally

[fresh spire]

Sks is powerful for st

[olive nest]

My boss damage is kinda beans with the build but I could also just be playing poorly

[fresh spire]

Likely going to become something more next patch to help with st

Given cleave is pretty demon

[tacit crystal]

ive been playing build critcake used in 17 cot

[tacit crystal]

bring back old ww

[fresh spire]

Spamming ww just as bruh as pressing cleave

[olive nest]

I liked sks in DF s2 when we used it to pop totems for example

I really don’t like it after the changes

[fresh spire]

Old sks was fun

Felt fire exploding toxic totem

[tacit crystal]

probably but felt good in st to just dump 80 rage

[fresh spire]

[tacit crystal]

imo

[fresh spire]

Yeh now it's useless with rage costs

It has no place in the build

[olive nest]

I’m still trying to figure out the new prio

[fresh spire]

Legit would rage starve you pre execute

[tacit crystal]

ye

[fresh spire]

What biz is doing?

[tacit crystal]

also no tom

😦

[steep osprey]

Gio

Fuck TOm

[olive nest]

I know the basics as a longtime arms player just M+ prio

[fresh spire]

Depends if you run soa or dn

Cleave ms execute op if soa
Cleave op ms execute if dn

[naive sage]

What’s dn 🤣🤣🤣

[olive nest]

I assume it’s still correct to MS/Cleave on cd and then try to fish for resets with op

Never 2x op if Ms or cleave is up

Is that true in ST also?

(M+)

And do you guys sit on demolish at all to try to get extra stacks as long as you can fit it into the end of the Cs window?

[fresh spire]

Uhhh

[olive nest]

DeezNaughts

[fresh spire]

On cds if you play soa prio on ms/cleave with eb makes it comfortable to stack to 10 fast during ravager

During wb

Otherwise send it on max stacks outside of cds

[steep osprey]

They should buff Dn a little

[teal fossil]

just a lil

[steep osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-little-bit-curtis-james-jackson-iii-50cent-just-a-lil-bit-tiny-bit-gif-17901415

[fresh spire]

They need to buff it

Dn worse on 5 target than soa rn

Cleave is a fucking monster with the baseline buff and mp nerf

[steep osprey]

Think this is probably the strongest cleave has ever been

[fresh spire]

It's gonna get nerfed

And if they don't hope they shoot the talent not the skill

[steep osprey]

I hope not

[steep osprey]

I think that's fine

[fresh spire]

Op where

[steep osprey]

i mean

op is a 1 target button

cleave hits everyone

[fresh spire]

More about 34 uses

As 0 deft on aoe

[steep osprey]

Maybe Nerf cleave a little bit

actually

nerf the cleave talent

from Colossus

that's the main issue

[fresh spire]

Pressed thunder clap as many times as op

They need to tune the colossus cleave node

From 5 to 4

[steep osprey]

Yeah, Cleave isn't as egregious

for Slayer

[fresh spire]

We want cleave on its own to feel OK as some boss encounters just taking cleave is nice. Even more so with the mp change

But don't kill the button when the talent is giving it so much prowess

Hopefully build comes tonight

[steep osprey]

What does the talent do again

5% damage per 5 targets?

[fresh spire]

5% more damage per target

Up to 25

[steep osprey]

what

oh nvm

thought you meant 25 targets lmao

[fresh spire]

Nah %

[steep osprey]

I think that should be 3%

per 5

[fresh spire]

3 probs enough it's close to arterial

[steep osprey]

15% damage

[fresh spire]

Still waiting to see what comes

Got a feeling something cools coming

[steep osprey]

I want to test Devastaton but I don't have a 80 evoker

[fresh spire]

Can't you make one on ptr

[steep osprey]

because for some reason the test thing only gets you 70

nah because the boost is 70

weird

[fresh spire]

Try different reqlm

Some are leveling some are max level

It's weird

[steep osprey]

oh

ok i'll try

[tacit crystal]

hey i want tom to be buffed

🙂

[fresh spire]

Yeh

[steep osprey]

Ok

I do not

[fresh spire]

Change it from rage to button

And it becomes good

[steep osprey]

Yeah button is fine

per button used during CS

but that'll make haste pretty big too

[tacit crystal]

would tom be our friend if ip was at tww values and contributed to am

[steep osprey]

please do not make IP work with TOm Again

[tacit crystal]

but tom is my friend

[steep osprey]

I don't care

too far sorry

[olive nest]

SoA right now DN is pretty bad

[steep osprey]

DN should be baseline

[fresh spire]

Ip is legit 550k on otr

And we got 10m hp

It needs help

[olive nest]

Useless

Make IP like 1/3rd our HP pool atleast

[steep osprey]

didn't work

[tacit crystal]

kek

[steep osprey]

tried on all realms

[fresh spire]

[steep osprey]

IP should stay like this

if they make it's cd lower

or have no cd

but like this its trash

[fresh spire]

Was at least issue I had on esrly beta wondered if it was same on ptr

Sadge

[tacit crystal]

I think the only reason they dont have it like his is bc pvp

[steep osprey]

Why is there even a 70 boost

that's so useless

[fresh spire]

Likely gonna get buffed

Probs just they reworked the base calculation and will buff it now

[tacit crystal]

i dont know if pvpers would like a 1/3 hp shield every 11 seconds

[olive nest]

Slam in M+ is basically dead yeah?

[steep osprey]

[fresh spire]

Fuck pvp

[steep osprey]

they haven't done anything since they introduced IP

[olive nest]

Better to refresh rend then slam?

[steep osprey]

what makes you think they're going to do something now

[olive nest]

And probably better to pool rage then spend it on slam?

[fresh spire]

You say that brew

Next patch it was like 1k dps more to slam over rend

[tacit crystal]

i agree but they still somehwat care about it

[olive nest]

[fresh spire]

I found a dps gain for now though

[steep osprey]

Slam needs a big buff

[fresh spire]

You can rend>slam if under 13 seconds

[steep osprey]

it's trash

[fresh spire]

And its dps gain

[steep osprey]

does 5% of MS's damage

[fresh spire]

Remove slam

Use rend filler

[olive nest]

I completely agree

[steep osprey]

that's disgusting

[fresh spire]

Nah

[olive nest]

They should just make slam and rend one button

[steep osprey]

I think they should make rend same duration as legion's

8 seconds

so you press it a lot more frequently

[olive nest]

It would be perfect

[tacit crystal]

that sounds aids in m+

[steep osprey]

but it will have to do a lot mroe damage

[olive nest]

MS to apply dw and slam to apply rend

[steep osprey]

so it will be worth it

[olive nest]

Not short duration I don’t like that

It’s a maintenance dot

20 seconds is good

8??

Oof

[steep osprey]

11 second by applying it again when t's sub 3

i forgot the name of the thing lol\

[olive nest]

Pandemic window you mean?

Or w/e

[steep osprey]

Yeah

[olive nest]

I think it’s pandemic window

[boreal quartz]

@eager sigil banger bait

[eager sigil]

🎣

[boreal quartz]

@eager sigil this guy ye

Drax

Called a friend of mine a slur in skyhold @subtle whale

Got 2 Accounts banned

[olive nest]

Almost got him to type in fury

[subtle whale]

sup gamer

[boreal quartz]

Check fury dawg

The man is back

Lmfaoo

[subtle whale]

😭

my king

[boreal quartz]

I wish Soda could see this

[subtle whale]

real

[tacit crystal]

context

[tacit crystal]

phil help

[olive nest]

Soda banned

Rip

[tacit crystal]

no the bait

[boreal quartz]

Check fury

[eager sigil]

i responded to the other guy and he thought i meant you

gg

[young raft]

Soda is a baby

[boreal quartz]

Wonderful outcome regardless

Fuck 🏴‍☠️ tho xdd

[eager sigil]

real

[glossy tusk]

you guys playing dusk or dawnthread?

[eager sigil]

whatever the crit one is

personally

[tacit crystal]

i play dn

[glossy tusk]

alrighty thanks ill recraft from vers one then, was playing fury but man arms is way more fun : D

[eager sigil]

just sim it

i doubt the difference is big

[olive nest]

I play vers embellish since I mostly played fury this patch and just recently started playing arms

[shadow ibex]

Remove slam let arms exe always

Fuckin slam

[olive nest]

Got extra sparks so I might drop the gold on Crit crafts but idk if it’s even worth the bother

[eager sigil]

i made an extra set

[fossil thistle]

Prob sub 1%, but I went ahead and crafted a bunch of stuff (assuming prices will jump up in S2)
But I can also recraft my own gear so

[gusty oxide]

Are we on copium for 11.1?

OR should we panic

[teal fossil]

post holidays ptr build still hasnt dropped

[shadow ibex]

the lies we tell ourselves

[hexed marsh]

Arms main worthy in 11.1?

[teal fossil]

no

[hexed marsh]

Ripppp

[naive sage]

No need to panic. Just doom like everyone else

[gusty oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/doomer-ken-kanye-fan-gif-25334451

[eager sigil]

wait i think i know that guy from the dark days

tankchat

[boreal quartz]

Aware emoji

[young raft]

Got a 75% parse on mythic princess this week. Felt good. 😌

[eager sigil]

gz

queen dead

[olive nest]

Grats!

[halcyon valve]

😎 this counts as a kill alright

[fossil thistle]

Maybe but why are you all tater Tot

[gaunt owl]

they clearly taking a nap after this hard won fight

they need the rest

[astral talon]

boss is dead, yes

gratz

no kill like a drama kill 😄

[halcyon valve]

the sweating when theres only tanks alive at 0.1% on boss

hit a nasty fat ms on pull tho

[sullen moat]

thats importen, the rest dosent matter, just the fat ms and all is fine

[halcyon valve]

exactly

you understand me

[sullen moat]

ofc. warr do huge zuk zuk

[abstract cairn]

big fun hits or bleeding spec? hard to choose

[floral ledge]

why i am loosing dps ?

[thick kelp]

crank up the uptime

to 80%

[floral ledge]

oh ok ,not that high

so its better for end season right

what's ur guys sims ?

[shadow ibex]

where build

[minor gust]

John Blizzard told me the new build is on Thursday

[fresh spire]

:ptr where:

[rich ridge]

Is arms the wave next season?

[rare kite]

who knows

[minor gust]

no its a shoe next season

[snow flame]

My thinking power says no

[rich ridge]

Where u guys go for info for PTR talents? Cuz wowhead doesn’t have anything

[quaint otter]

🫳
🔮

Reroll huntah

[rare kite]

we just play random shit. or ask fishy

fishy knows stuff

[minor gust]

🔮

play fatality

[rare kite]

can't wait for them to make fatal mark critable. it will be the final change to make fatality feel even more ass. cds affecting it, and it can crit(but not guaranteed to)

[eager sigil]

colossus arms is the play next season (it came to me in a vision)

[quaint otter]

and scale with avatar and cs

[minor gust]

nah Mountain Thane Arms is the play next season

came to me in my balls

[rare kite]

yea that's the cds parts

[quaint otter]

smh missed it

[fresh spire]

if its critting we will be worried

64m or 8m

pick ur poison

[rare kite]

yup, will be great

[minor gust]

so just another mortal strike got it 🙂

[shadow ibex]

Build where

[fresh spire]

build where

👀

[minor gust]

honestly hope they add crit chance to fatal mark keep making things worse for arms so they might think about fixing this shit

[rare kite]

maybe this will be like when i joked about slam tierset before s2 df. then we got exactly that

[minor gust]

Need another Critcake this tier sucks video for them to fix it

[floral ledge]

not the best as dmg but so cool to play it on raid

so satisfying

[floral ledge]

tomorrow ?

new build like some classe changes or what ?

[quaint otter]

[shadow ibex]

yea

many changes

[fresh spire]

they removed aug

:holy

(totally real)

[shadow ibex]

so big they wont talk about them u know how hunters get a post talking about rework

war is different

[olive nest]

been a while since i played

[shadow ibex]

we will just get shadwodropped

[olive nest]

what's up with m+

[tacit crystal]

whos build

[minor gust]

Andas build

[fresh spire]

jailed

im supprised its down, must be prepping for testing tomorrow i guess

still down* that is

[shadow ibex]

[fresh spire]

man if i have to go asleep without patch notes im gonna be sad

[eager sigil]

im pre mad

[minor gust]

[fresh spire]

rage capped prepull

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809954503046332459/1097999985687134300/bounce.gif

[eager sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1016099619769438299/1094354052239859912/IMG_5174.gif

me fr

[halcyon valve]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-meme-gif-4079065483340370050

[fresh spire]

:kekw

[shadow ibex]

I refuse to get excited

[fresh spire]

uni + gumbus

https://tenor.com/view/gumbus-gumbus-and-gracie-gumbusandgracie-eating-cat-gif-17740180438056553241

[fresh spire]

i'm more excited for patch notes at this point than i was for christmas

[fresh spire]

holy

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kiss-cat-kisses-cat-kissing-cute-cat-kiss-gif-26570147

[shadow ibex]

Prot war can't even get a post

They just shit all over them and left

[fresh spire]

:sad:

surely prot still good 🙏

[halcyon valve]

Gollum aah goofy cat

[fresh spire]

gumbus owns

hes all slimyt

or she even

[fresh spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHuQqLxmEyg

waiting for patch notes be like

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-7422720

[fresh spire]

yo thats me

[magic canopy]

feeesh

[steep osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/le-fishe-au-chocolat-fish-chocolate-gif-276207395680097828

[fresh spire]

NO

[eager sigil]

https://x.com/algalon_ghost/status/1879680007519272973?t=i7aS0F4afzlyf47s8yn9jA&s=19

Algalon, Enigmatic Observer (@algalon_ghost) on X

New #Warcraft build found:
Vendor 3 (wowv3)🔐: 11.1.0.58573 --> 11.1.0.58626

Found at: 01-16-2025@12:00:10 UTC

X · Jan 16, 2025, 12:00 AM

soon

[steep osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/780377679227650079/1143175175391674418/Viberge.gif

[fresh spire]

patcher is up, though realms are down

surely bluepost very soon

[shadow ibex]

surely

[eager sigil]

notes up

[brittle fiber]

No arms change

[snow flame]

[fresh spire]

bed time

[minor gust]

nothing for arms and fury classic

Part 2 still cookin I guess

[fresh spire]

might be some minor talent changes in the datamine who knows

[brittle fiber]

oh god

monk just got some huge buffs

[shadow ibex]

lmao

what a joke

[quaint otter]

fake

give cerenity back

[spark glade]

for a guy new to arms trying to well in Mythic+, slayer or colossus?

[lean geode]

Col

[spark glade]

thank you

[meager stone]

they removed demolish stacks on execute, but they didnt increase the amount reduced by stacks in general, right?

[shadow ibex]

cdr is the same if thats what u mean

[meager stone]

but if we no longer get stacks on execute isnt that a nerf?

[wet cloud]

how do we sim for general occasions? 5 min patchwerk like every class?

[eager sigil]

Yes

[wet cloud]

k

[shadow ibex]

yes its a nerf

less stack gen = more time between casts and slower gen of the OP and bleed dmg buff each stack gives

waiting for compensation buff but empty notes for dps war

[meager stone]

waiting room

[rare kite]

hoooly

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/smol-gif-18164930

[lean geode]

Where is this from?

[rare kite]

#updates-midnight

[lean geode]

OH I saw prot changes and stopped reading

xdd

[shadow ibex]

i think the only thing you could swap it for in that row is SD i guess

probably makes exe the same. free 40 rage exes vs how many bleed ticks to get 40 rage

above 35 turn more rage into slams instead of SD proc

[rare kite]

i mean im just memeing about the "no dps warrior buff" wooohoo bloodsurge buff...

[shadow ibex]

Idk why they nerf prot war rage only to try and give it back in a talent to a spec already complaining about required talents without much wiggle room

But im just some dummy who presses button

[woven wasp]

wdym they gave it to colossus (which is the spec that really needed to not lose it) and thats not a choice

[river ridge]

Goal was the reduce the APM of Prot Warrior, but keep everything else the same. But we've seen so far how that's been going.

[brittle fiber]

feel like apm prot isnt even that bad but im assuming that's because i'm running macros

[spring vessel]

for some reason i cannot get invited into 10s as arms lol

[brittle fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/cereal-throw-angry-guy-out-of-milk-gif-14265412

[shadow ibex]

[minor gust]

there was quite a few melee dps tier set changes

crazy we werent one of them

[rare kite]

20% overpower buff 🙂

big payoff

[shadow ibex]

If they keep stack rate the same and don't let you overwrite with shorter buff duration

It's just p much a perma x MS and OP boost yay

If they let us build stacks but not consume them during a buff already running

[rare kite]

yea but even then wouldn't we just want to avoid pressing overpower in execute for fear of consuming the stacks?

[shadow ibex]

i think they build fast enough

but idk if thats bugged or not

they ramp up fast so yea going from 20% to like 0 then up to 12 in a few GCDs

its just clumsy really

inelegent

[brittle fiber]

ravager poops out winning streaks

[woven wasp]

it is meant to be fast

[brittle fiber]

just a shame there doesnt seem to be any real council fights for melee in next raid so far

[icy mulch]

Wait, Shaman tier just got nerfed?

[brittle fiber]

looks like a buff or a decent rework at least, i'm not in the shaman discord

[warm bronze]

Most recent Critcake vid showed arms not doing too bad. Is it still likely not the better spec this next season? FYI I'm primarily Myth raiding.

in PTR*

Tier set is... interesting. I'm just now catching up.

[minor gust]

🔮

[warm bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-out-boy-crystal-ball-crystal-sphere-gif-16380909

[versed carbon]

Ffs they made frost dk set even better wayyy better but ours still that shit ? ..

[brittle fiber]

Arms tier set update will be something like (4): when you lose winning streak, equip a 2nd weapon and gain access to fury abilities for 2 seconds, stacking up to 20 seconds based on number of stacks lost

[chilly copper]

Not a fan of gamble tier sets. Why couldnt they have made it "Hey your worse spec ability is buffed by 60%" so Slam

[warm bronze]

lmao

[naive sage]

Lmao
But it would look like my idea of taking inspiration from D4 barbarian (walking arsenal)

[simple wren]

this was a bit funny https://x.com/bigmoranx/status/1879380138464555126

Bigmoran (@Bigmoranx) on X

In case you have forgotten.

Paladin is the most broken, noob friendly classes in WoW.

Blizzard intentionally makes it OP since it is one of the most popular classes in the game and attracts the dumbest possible players.

It is a business decision to appease idiots.

X · Jan 15, 2025, 4:08 AM

[eager sigil]

paladin was also mega popular when ret was ass

[dim basalt]

Its like saying BM is always good because of same reasons

But it really isnt

Its just so much easier to play than the other specs so performing on it is easier

[eager sigil]

based

[fresh spire]

[steep osprey]

lmfao

btw where changes

why only prot

[tacit crystal]

not our turn

[brittle fiber]

gotta wait for 13.3 when WoW ends for arms rework

[steep osprey]

[simple wren]

be glad you dont get changes if they give arms the same treatment as prot

[fresh spire]

Prot got some good changes last night:sus:

[steep osprey]

saving good changes for prot

that means there's no good changes for fury and arms

[tacit crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/derp-derpfish-derp-fish-fish-funny-fish-gif-3995205937939854061

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-fish-spinning-fish-gif-26242506

[narrow flax]

not sure if i would call the prot buffs good

as in

[steep osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/le-fishe-au-chocolat-fish-chocolate-gif-276207395680097828

[narrow flax]

they got more damage

but the rage gen is still sadge

[naive sage]

The absolute disrespect from blizzard

[fresh spire]

Play bloodsurge colossus gg

[naive sage]

Unbelievable

[narrow flax]

thing is, it doesn't fix what people dont like about it

:)

[fresh spire]

Having 90apm?

[narrow flax]

only thing i see in the prot channel lately is people complaining about having a really low apm compared to what they had

[tacit crystal]

fishy

what species are you

this is rugent

[fresh spire]

Fish

[tacit crystal]

im srs fishy

[narrow flax]

if thats what they dont like about the current situation then dps wont fix it sadly enough

but its a start i guess

[fresh spire]

No more over capping ignore pain from constantly being rage capped to having to actually think about pressing buttons. As much as rage was hit week one its damage actually took a huge hit too. The shield slam buffs are pretty solid not to mention 10% more block value from the talent extra too

[steep osprey]

I know it definitely feels bad

but I think it was ridiculous lol

you could just spam Ignore pain

[fresh spire]

Legit didn't think. You couldn't make mistakes

Legit 0 brain spam buttons.

[steep osprey]

im spamming Shield spam resets and IP

[narrow flax]

oh i didn't like the way it was before either

just sayin that whatever they did now is not the fix for what people are currently complaining about

so maybe give a little bit more rage

[dim basalt]

But you kinda need that in high keys

[narrow flax]

to find a nice middle ground

[dim basalt]

And their changes do not fix what they claimed

Instead what they did is make IP unviable

[steep osprey]

It's probably not going to stay like this because it's still PTR and they tuned it down to the extreme and when they do that, they usually tune it back up to reasonable levels

[fresh spire]

The buffs Legit give the rage starving hero tree rage

The old issue was Thane gave way to much rage. Not baseline

Colossus give nothing

[brittle fiber]

(They dont know)

[dim basalt]

And unfortunately the recent changes still dont fix the main concern

[brittle fiber]

Blizzard said warrior’s in a good spot. #nochanges

[dim basalt]

Which is the flow being completely fucked

[fresh spire]

Yep no more changes. They removed ms

We now slam

[steep osprey]

susge

[fresh spire]

Depends om bloodsurge

[brittle fiber]

Think I’m going to listen to the “warrior” expert at Blizzard over some sweaty nerds in a Discord channel

[dim basalt]

[steep osprey]

my hands are cold

how do i fix

[brittle fiber]

Play outlaw

[fresh spire]

Put in pocket

[steep osprey]

can't type if i do that

[narrow flax]

cold shower

[steep osprey]

when ace procs over and over

[fresh spire]

It's OK guys

Surely more changes before server goes up. They delayed it to fix arms

[steep osprey]

did u see enha nerfs

[fresh spire]

Nah was they goated

[steep osprey]

I guess yeah

they were doing too much damage tbh

[fresh spire]

Every nerf to rogue and enhance is a buff to warrior (real)

[steep osprey]

Did you know that Trickster has a passive that makes u unable to parry boss

and it's bugged working for entire raid

bis arms buff

💀

[thick kelp]

Yeah

now u only need

a rogue to play trickster

[chilly copper]

Beautiful

Reminds me of the dragonflight seasons where fury auto attack build existed

[fresh spire]

We call it a feature

[chilly copper]

And one talent was "while enraged you dont miss"

[steep osprey]

Sub plays trickster on like 3 bosses

[steep osprey]

That still exists and is being used

[thick kelp]

Not on ansurek where it matters

[fresh spire]

Hit that spider gyattt

[chilly copper]

In form, but they removed the bunch of auto attack related stuff

[steep osprey]

terminate spider queen 终止蜘蛛女王 admire impressive rear 欣赏令人印象深刻的屁股 run from toxins 远离毒素 enjoy the suck 享受吮吸 beans on toast 不尊重沃尔玛

[fresh spire]

I like the new pirate copy paste

As much as the drama went way to far

[steep osprey]

PirateSoftware Kiwi Farms Page 奇異果農場頁面 Furry Swinger Party 毛茸茸的放蕩派對 Infidelity 不忠 Divorce 離婚 Woodbury University Incident 伍德伯里大學事件 Voice Changer 變聲器 No Accountability 沒有責任 Nepotism 裙帶關係 Mana Gem 寶石在哪裡

the mana gem at the end is hilarious

[fresh spire]

Mana gem is the best part

I'm still waiting to find out the chinese is something awful

Like self slander but people don't know

[steep osprey]

lmfao

don't wanna check it

[fresh spire]

The best one was the genshin gatcha one

Westerners made poor

Songood

[steep osprey]

lmao

[eager sigil]

its just the same stuff as in english

[fresh spire]

I mean it could me

It might not be

[eager sigil]

i just used google translate

[fresh spire]

Imagine it was just something like

"I'm stupid"

Etc

[eager sigil]

furry swinger party is "hairy party"

[fresh spire]

[steep osprey]

did u guys know he worked at blizzard

[fresh spire]

7 years?!

Let's be real

[steep osprey]

he could have helped warriors

[fresh spire]

Everyone calls him a nepho

[steep osprey]

Iirc he was a QA tester

[fresh spire]

But same time if you was in a position your dad could get you into a job in a huge company you would take it

[steep osprey]

100%

I wouldn't think twice

[fresh spire]

I have a friend in my guild who was born into a nepho spot

Works pretty high up in bmw

Mental

[steep osprey]

I think the difference is that you acknowledge your spot

[tacit crystal]

@fresh spire hi

[steep osprey]

not act like it was you all along

[fresh spire]

Tbh I think even if I was in that spot I'd be the same. Poor or rich I'm still a dumb ass

[brittle fiber]

poor or rich you still think arms warrior will be good again

[fresh spire]

I have dreams

That some day arm man good again

[steep osprey]

what's funny is that there were clips of him talking about how he's seen clips of mages doing a terrible job and how he'd do it better

[brittle fiber]

return juggernaut to99 stacks

[steep osprey]

but when push comes to shove

he's even worse than those mages

[thick kelp]

Bro

u should hear his ego

[fresh spire]

We want jug to die

[thick kelp]

in ashes of creatoin

https://x.com/NickJointson/status/1879594964784713863

Nicholas Jointson (@NickJointson) on X

"One of you pulled the Ocular and cost us 4 hours. This is basic shit and I'm gonna kick you because you wiped us for no reason.

I pulled the Ocular and that was actually the correct thing to do. Not my fault, it was the tank!

Got a problem with that? Banned!" - @PirateSoftware

X · Jan 15, 2025, 6:22 PM

[steep osprey]

I saw that

[thick kelp]

"someone" pulls a bad mob

turns out its him

he insta flames it on the tank

xxxxxxxxx

dddd

[fresh spire]

Gg

[steep osprey]

Someone made a point

how nobody in that voice chat was talking

or like contesting him

becuase they probably have experience with him

[chilly copper]

He has made amusing enough shorts but I do find him annoying lol

[thick kelp]

Or he just servers mutes the others to "shotcall"

[steep osprey]

oh god

is it just me or does AoC look horrible

the colors are just eye fucking me

[brittle fiber]

if i can't tell my raid leader he's the worst member of our team then i dont want to be in that raid team

simple as

[steep osprey]

someone needs to hire UI devs

for AoC

[thick kelp]

aoc looks like

2012

mmo

[steep osprey]

exactly

2012 korean mmo

[thick kelp]

55 million invested btw

by the ceo

:xdd

[steep osprey]

look at the inventory

what is this

classic wow looks better than this

[thick kelp]

eso ass inventory

xff

[steep osprey]

the font doesn't help either

[thick kelp]

new world ahh font

[steep osprey]

hahahah

I can't remember an MMO where I actually liked the UI aside from WoW

even FFXIV looks meh

[brittle fiber]

guild wars 2

[thick kelp]

asss

[steep osprey]

?

looks like trash

[narrow flax]

i had not seen this

damn 😂

[brittle fiber]

i like it

[steep osprey]

how is it so hard to make a good ui

[thick kelp]

imagine there are ppl who play wow with the GW2 UI addon

xff

[steep osprey]

lmao

[steep osprey]

and it looks better than the ui in the actual game ngl

[tacit crystal]

hi fishy

[eager sigil]

liriks crime to the game

[steep osprey]

Gio

[tacit crystal]

caja

xantaga

[hexed saddle]

if u flame aqw i will ban u

[steep osprey]

what the fuck is this

[thick kelp]

that ui

[hexed saddle]

aqw

[thick kelp]

is so clean

ngl

[hexed saddle]

its goated

[tacit crystal]

walhe

[steep osprey]

yeah that looks fine

[hexed saddle]

ive been playing since 2010

[steep osprey]

for that game

[thick kelp]

gio

[brittle fiber]

i didnt think aqw was still a thing

[tacit crystal]

coatsman

[steep osprey]

AoC looks modern and cheap at the same time, that's the worst combination in a game

[brittle fiber]

i stopped playing because i thought it had a pretty pick paywall

Dio

[brittle fiber]

im just not keen for aoc

but i feel wow's inveitably going to get worse and worse in quality because they know they have no real competitors

[steep osprey]

I wonder how Riot MMO would look like

[tacit crystal]

honestly thinking about changing pfp to that

rip schnappi

@boreal quartz thoughts?

holy aura

[steep osprey]

maybe but I feel like WoW has been getting better recently

[hexed saddle]

oh fuck the UI is hidden

[steep osprey]

Why does your character look like Uchiha

[thick kelp]

He is Uchiha

[hexed saddle]

they put a lot of parody items in

my helmet is kokushibo

[tacit crystal]

surely its time to go to sleep

[hexed saddle]

they also have a sasuke costume

its fucking epic

[steep osprey]

your pfp looks too unique and good

[hexed saddle]

but u have to spend like legit $2k USD

[tacit crystal]

but

gio
-Gio
  -gio

[fresh spire]

This gatcha game?

[tacit crystal]

it looks like club penguin + wow + maple story

[hexed saddle]

its adventure quest worlds

its goated

[tacit crystal]

do europeans know waht club penguin is

[hexed saddle]

its just a flash side scroller

[tacit crystal]

real question

[rare kite]

Ofc

[woven wasp]

yes man of course we know club penguin

[tacit crystal]

didnt know

[steep osprey]

surely we'll log in to the ptr when it's live and see that OF has been buffed by 100%

[icy mulch]

If it's not wow, there are only two games worth playing.

https://tenor.com/view/helldiver-helldivers-2-gif-1471368634578542573

https://tenor.com/view/magik-mvp-marvel-rivals-animation-gif-2134864041482028163

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/poe2-login-poe2-gif-17607649316887088565

[steep osprey]

I've started playing Elden Ring and it's amazing

[steep osprey]

Waiting for patch

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/excel-microsoft-microsoft-excel-spreadsheet-excel-spreadsheet-gif-12117930

[thick kelp]

Excel esports

[steep osprey]

I just killed Godrick yday

[icy mulch]

PoE basically requires spreadsheets and portfolios of guides and data though.

[steep osprey]

but he wasn't as hard as I expected

A random boss was way harder

classic

[naive sage]

Oh my god is this adventure quest?

Why am I so old

[tacit crystal]

wgat is that

[fresh spire]

Pqtch tomorrow

[steep osprey]

Excel

[fresh spire]

You forgot hsr

[steep osprey]

who

[thick kelp]

Fishy the only guy in skyhold to play hsr

[tacit crystal]

i dont think she knows what hsr is

[icy mulch]

Marvel Rivals.

[naive sage]

Heroes of the storm, Aram mode

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[tacit crystal]

what is hsr

urgent