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#arms
quasi torrent
quasi torrent
CosPlay
quasi torrent
balls
visual fern
Erm
boreal quartz
Can we not make jokes about combo point abbreviation
quasi torrent
cod points u mean
naive sage
Dn
brittle fiber
i mean classic, but yea i do think i oddly remember you from legion
might be a fever dream memory
quasi torrent
horrible emote
fresh spire
silk spade
strange perch
🪢
minor gust
gaunt owl
naive sage
<a:pogox:1326809946997919805>
Who is this guy
gaunt owl
Maddox
olive nest
naive sage
And colossus ST buff for fuckin our might stacks plz
"If Demolish hits only one target, it deals 100% increased damage."
You're welcome blizzard, 10k on my bank account thanks
minor gust
how about a vers not vers talent instead
gaunt owl
"If Demolish hits only one target, it deals 100% increased damage."
You're welc...
game designing is too hard
sometimes i wonder if they have creative people in their midst
naive sage
they just dont use it for warrior
👆
rare kite
sometimes i wonder if they have creative people in their midst
clearly they do, mage gets new talents every single patch
minor gust
a lot of the reworks in TWW have been overall pretty positive from what I hear
you can just tell when blizz puts effort and when they dont
and they just never for warrior
rare kite
yuh, windwalker they cooked with(just low tuning tho)
minor gust
yeah purely gameplay tuning is something different
the upcoming MM rework looks really cool too
shadow ibex
Really wish they would justify why they feel the whole class doesn't need a rework
misty sandal
clearly they do, mage gets new talents every single patch
I wouldn't call that a good thing. It's a pretty miserable experience 😭
rare kite
I wouldn't call that a good thing. It's a pretty miserable experience 😭
when a spec is as stale as arms i would take changes. any changes. pls blizzard, just do something
arms has been like this for 7 years!! and it will be 8 once TWW ends
misty sandal
when a spec is as stale as arms i would take changes. any changes. pls blizzard,...
No. You don't. Go in alter time and ask about aethervision and the anniversary patch changes 😅
fresh spire
how about more overpowers :hmm:
misty sandal
Change is good. But, not that kind of horrible change 😭
rare kite
i would take any change, that atleast shows they know something is wrong with arms
spark tapir
No. You don't. Go in alter time and ask about aethervision and the anniversary p...
"You think you do. But you don't" (Sorry, I had to) :D
misty sandal
Pretty much. Unfortunately 
naive sage
how about more overpowers :hmm:
Overpower is a cool word!! Must be a strong ability!!!
rare kite
overpower feels good, i will defend overpower
does it tho? when you get overpower through tactician do you get alot of satisfaction? coz i sure do not. it's just relief
weak rain
when a spec is as stale as arms i would take changes. any changes. pls blizzard,...
wdym, they reworked arms in tww, they reduced rage generation
minor gust
Big hitting overpower that you press with taste for blood procs is the only good iteration of overpower
rn its just another boring filler
halcyon valve
does it tho? when you get overpower through tactician do you get alot of satisfa...
so youre admitting you like getting to press overpower?
rare kite
no? the spec just revolves around it, when i do not get a reset through tactician it sucks. and when i do get one i don't feel satisfaction, just relieved that i don't have to press slam
rare kite
yeah exactly, in legion when you get a cs reset you're like "FUCK YEAHH". yes it means higher highs and lower lows, but i will take that anyday
now arms is literally just the middest of mids
halcyon valve
no? the spec just revolves around it, when i do not get a reset through tacticia...
yeah but is not getting resets the fault of overpower, or is it the fault of the available alternatives sucking or not existing when youre out of rage?
slow saddle
Problem is
rare kite
Even if i have to slam more
honestly slam didn't feel bad in legion because you knew the reward could be huge by doing so
slow saddle
Exactly slam for wb reset
Op shouldnt buff, ms or cleave
Buff baseline instead
Only big amp should be ep!!
Avatar and wb
Big whopaaaas in execute
rare kite
yeah but is not getting resets the fault of overpower, or is it the fault of the...
both overpower and slam sucks currently. see the thing is slams reward is getting you overpowers, and overpowers reward is not having to press slam.
rare kite
yea thankfully they nerfed that quite a bit now
slow saddle
Ye
Biggest problem in arms, to many amps
Imho at least
Dw-op-ep-avatar-cs 4p pray for crot
Crit
rare kite
idk legion had quite a bit of amps, but since it almost always crits after cs it felt more consistent
dim basalt
the amps also make our dps swing a lot imo
2x op 2x tact and not critting feels so awful
rare kite
yep
halcyon valve
🤓 its martial prowess, not tactician
minor gust
300k MS or 5million MS take your pick
rare kite
that has alot to do with jugg as well, which is also a talent i do not like.
slow saddle
100%
Just remove it, and give.me df 4p from season 3
Buff baseline execute to sexecute ppl
dim basalt
I didnt play arms in s3 but when I looked it up I was like yooo they were cooking
halcyon valve
dragonflight s2 and s3 were kinda cooking
minor gust
auto rend refresh second best part
dim basalt
Tbh if they made it last until combat ends it would be a pretty popular rwf spec
If not completely dog
halcyon valve
juggernaut lasting until combat ends would be stupid
just reduce max stacks to 5
increase duration to 20 seconds
replace slayer with an even bigger colossus
rare kite
they should just remove jugg and buff baseline execute
slow saddle
they should just remove jugg and buff baseline execute
Fact
Imagine if sd proc was happy times
Make sd count as rage spend, now we are at it
clear gulch
tips for t11 delves?
slow saddle
Go fury
clear gulch
no
slow saddle
Or prot
halcyon valve
nexus princess on 27.4%
smells like execute in here
floral ledge
guys what is the omega omega bis for raid
build
this one on wowhead
is an overall
so mm+ + raid no ?
eager sigil
bis lists are a meme these days
shadow ibex
not something you need to worry about
minor gust
any and all gear questions is answered by taking 10 minutes to learn how to sim
floral ledge
any and all gear questions is answered by taking 10 minutes to learn how to sim
with every item and talents, and embelish
its more than 10 mn
to know it
eager sigil
yea but it wont help you to know what items are bis since you probably dont have any of t hem
shadow ibex
there isnt a vendor that will give you all the gear you want
eager sigil
you just equip the best stuff you have
minor gust
cool now go run some droptomizers
eager sigil
crafted weapon lole
dim basalt
these bis lists only exist because people wont shut up if theyre not there, and Im 99% sure theyre ST only
naive sage
these bis lists only exist because people wont shut up if theyre not there, and ...
True
People still think they’re playing wotlk
That expac has done incalculable brain damage to the average players
teal fossil
wasn’t that just because gear was complexing back then but we had no real sims
eager sigil
you also had less gear sources
quasi torrent
It was somewhat easier cause less combinations and relevant caps
but silly sheets did technically exist
and simc was around in cata already
Bis lists mainly exist cause its good SEO tho
minor gust
Cata had reforgelite to help with reforging
quasi torrent
Cata had reforgelite to help with reforging
yes and where did those weights come from
cinder marsh
After testing arms for couple of 15+ keys. I could say that arms is actually really good, until you go to any boss. Man I cba this shit
I have to go full single target build to compete in single target, otherwise im just fucked. HELP
thats in ptr ofcourse
minor gust
yes and where did those weights come from
yee wasnt saying Simc didnt exist
quasi torrent
Reforgelite had the same shortcomings PAWN has
minor gust
I was a noob in cata thats all I remember using for gear was reforgelite
quasi torrent
it was useful enough cause simming/sheeting was pretty ass compared to now
and by that i mean really not accesible
minor gust
I may be remembering wrong but I dont think siming got super big in the playerbase till legion
brittle fiber
Trying to sim bis gear when titanforge existed 
shadow ibex
simming in cata and mop was cringe
minor gust
I remember secondary stats just being super big
to a point a lot of the time u were wearing low ilvl gear
brittle fiber
God i hated titan forge with a passion
quasi torrent
to a point a lot of the time u were wearing low ilvl gear
Ehh not that much on actual gear pieces
minor gust
A part of me really wishes they would spice up stats again add some new shit. But I know blizz probably really doesnt wanna open up that can of worms since what we have now works
quasi torrent
Thing is what stat would be interesting
Any cap based stat like hit or exp just gets filtered (and will quite often give u results below hard cap)
and what interesting things are there
arp?
spellpen?
Multistrike (lmao)?
minor gust
I think you could add more stats but they would have to be terts. but yeah theres not really much you could add without changing some big parts of how the game works
brittle fiber
I wouldnt mind primary stats having a bit more uniqueness to them again
And have classes like dk and paladin benefit off both intellect and strength to a degree
strange perch
https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jojo-bizzare-adventure-luck-and-pluck-luck-gif-26364...
that would be Outlaw rogue
At this point Blizz must handle all PvP as a separate game mode akin to MOBA or Plunderstorm.
Each class and spec uses its own limited set of abilities e.g. 10 for each with a simplified PvP interface.
And have a separate pvp-reward store instead of marks of honor.
They were "" this close to that in WoD and Legion where classes used specific and fixed stat numbers.
wet cloud
on last ara kara boss, when he starts pulling , i just leap out at the end of the cast ? sometimes it works for me and sometimes i still get pulled
eager sigil
Needs to be less than 1 sec left before you jump
wet cloud
hmmmm
halcyon breach
on last ara kara boss, when he starts pulling , i just leap out at the end of th...
You wait till the boss pushes you up into the air briefly, which happens at around 1-0.8 seconds remaining. However, if you're doing +11s or below, if the boss gets any haste from this weeks affix, then you have to soak a puddle, since the cast becomes hasted while the push up happens closer to the end of the cast
wet cloud
You wait till the boss pushes you up into the air briefly, which happens at arou...
ok ty
is there a macro or addon where i can press one button and go to defensive stance, and if i am on defensive when i press it i go to battle stance?
random ibex
is there a macro or addon where i can press one button and go to defensive stanc...
there ones in the wowhead guide
wet cloud
i found it here, gonna try
outer forge
yeah, huge qol macro.
reef glade
nerf ret immediately
magic canopy
nerf ret immediately
armsmish
reef glade
colossish
thick kelp
Aug'd
fresh spire
steep osprey
Cleave is pumping on ptr
is anyone else getting LUA errors on PTR
it's ridiculous
fresh spire
Nerf to mp makes cleave even better with soa build.
Also can take torment very easily too with extra skill point freed up in capstones
naive sage
Nerf to mp makes cleave even better with soa build.
Why is that?
magic canopy
collosus tier
steep osprey
Does arms feel tankier on PTR?
eager sigil
idk how much you actually feel it but it puts us more in line with others
we still have like 5 defensive buttons
steep osprey
seems like that fixes arms mostly
for survivability
and colossus also has a passive DR
steep osprey
feels like the tier set and some of the talent changes kinda helped Colossus with some execute rage problems
Like picking CT
I watched a critcake video and he seemed to have been doing better with rage during execute
pearl shadow
Do arms get any stat changes? in Current season you wanna play crit/haste and as fury you play mastery/haste? Do you think its possible to play haste/mastery in S2 it feels that crit it much better cause of cleave and demolish crits xD
fresh spire
Why is that?
Becuase your prio was cleave>ms>op. Them both hitting 15% harder from the mp change means overall more of your abilities will smack harder than just the one occasionally buffed. Not to mention you can fully run torment/eb next tier and likely fill alot of overpower gcds with cleave
naive sage
Becuase your prio was cleave>ms>op. Them both hitting 15% harder from the mp cha...
No I mean why soa
quasi torrent
torment EB oh hell nah
steep osprey
lmao
fresh spire
Because of the prio is why it gets stronger op is weaker In general next patch its prio is fully behind ms in both specs even with opportunist. Ofc dreadnaught gave it value in keys as prio was cleave >op>ms. But with soa both prio abilities hitting harder is a general gain not to mention hitting mp on the wrong button is less somewhat less impact full from before.
Defts value is monstrously tanked because if how powerful Fatality can be under cooldowns and from ms being better overall eb>deft
Fatality in bis rn is hitting 32m in cooldowns
livid cloak
I've been running eb and torment for a while (in keys) and it is fun to play, even if not optimal
fresh spire
Yeh its fun
livid cloak
When avatar is up you just hit cleave so many times
fresh spire
Just you couldn't run uproar where you can do both next patch
Depends if Warlords still has more st value for torments aoe gains
fresh spire
steep osprey
Is this Garbagemancer trinket bugged
slow saddle
Fire mage gets awesome
steep osprey
2.7m damage very 20 seconds I guess
slow saddle
Tier
thick kelp
Fire mage walking around 80% combust uptime in key
slow saddle
Ikr
steep osprey
reacting to first builds tier sets
magic canopy
Is this Garbagemancer trinket bugged
yeah its a weird delve trinket that should be fixxed
but its currently busted as fuck
steep osprey
I'm thinking maybe it's missing a cd
magic canopy
probably
fresh spire
Not sure which you guys are talking about. At least from first impression sims we want last boss one and that 1.5m crit/haste om use
Unless that trinket your on about is currently not implemented correctly or bugged on live
(Potential delve trinket)
magic canopy
(Potential delve trinket)
yeah the trash ball its like a green orb trinket that has no cd and does 2.7m every 10 seconds
magic canopy
moreso almost all the other trinkets feel mid
steep osprey
It can also crit so it’s not only 2.7m
There’s also a trinket that randomly deals 1m damage
Seems good
Some rocket homing missile
fresh spire
steep osprey
Man I hate those bracers
quasi torrent
no, you hate mage
steep osprey
Same thing
steep osprey
Chance to combust and die when you press CS
steep osprey
Fatality is so boring
slow saddle
And huge demos
fresh spire
I'm being sarcastic.
It's in a weird spot. If blizzard was to change the cooldowns amping it likely hood they would fully strip off its scaling modifiers as its been added to a certain family that has blanket buffs from all sources. They don't have one just for mastery/aura so likelihood if they gut cs/avatar they would gut mastery same time
Do wish they would consider bringing back mortal combo/the legendary belt from shadowlands
naive sage
Isn’t 32m like super low for s2?
You could send a 25m elemental blast as enha shaman in s1…
steep osprey
You could send a 25m elemental blast as enha shaman in s1…
Won’t be able to anymore
They significantly nerfed enha dogs
And that doesn’t just happen all the time
naive sage
Won’t be able to anymore
Sure, still 32m sounds low to me
steep osprey
Once in a blue moon you’ll get a 20+ elemental blast
Like an entire raid maybe once
Or twice
steep osprey
Sure, still 32m sounds low to me
That’s not low
Not at all
One ability that guarantee hits 32m every time it can ? Lol
That’s insane
naive sage
It’s not guaranteed, it’s maybe one of the highest numbers it can reach according to krisp’s sims
steep osprey
I thought we were talking about a hypothetical
naive sage
The average seems to be 19m
steep osprey
That’s still good
random ibex
Is the latern trinket still goated or is it a pass?
slow saddle
Do wish they would consider bringing back mortal combo/the legendary belt from s...
It did work, and made us wanna push ms
Mortal combo replacing enduring blows
Booring but. Works better with current iteragion
teal fossil
i dont like mortal combo
especially without the legendary
its the same problem as unhinged, if we are allowed to machine gun out more MS then each individual MS would have to be a bit weaker
slow saddle
its the same problem as unhinged, if we are allowed to machine gun out more MS t...
No
Keep nerfinh mp instead
Also mortal combo as a replacement, is quite small amount of ms
slow saddle
especially without the legendary
Leggo is required for this to be fun
fringe moon
If mortal combo acted like the conduit instead of requiring another global, it would’ve been better.
slow saddle
Replace arterial wounds with combo/enduring
Prayge! Collosus i. Raid ftw
slow saddle
If mortal combo acted like the conduit instead of requiring another global, it w...
That is mortal comvo
naive sage
Enduring blow was chance on ms hit to apply cs effect innit
teal fossil
Also mortal combo as a replacement, is quite small amount of ms
mortal combo was about 15%
slow saddle
Would prob be way to op
teal fossil
exh blows is 20%
but mortal combo was entirely passive
letting you send out an unbuffed mortal
slow saddle
I know, we dont need to press more ms
But free ms yes pls
Mortal combo into ravager into demo
I know its a give and take. But they nerfed our bleed dmg
Heck remove sks put enduring blows at that spot
teal fossil
i dont want CS uptime that high
teal fossil
that'll be even more toxic since youll have 100% cs uptime in execute
slow saddle
Whats not to love
teal fossil
then you get tuned around it
teal fossil
so we either lose pre-execute damage
slow saddle
But true
slow saddle
Tbf our dmg is not top atm
So addin without subtrackting is possible
But cs entire exe is to good
I know
icy mulch
For once I would love for them to stop breaking cool and interactive class mechanics. Give us the CS reset back.
latent moss
factual
steep osprey
I think EB should make the resetted MS cost less rage
teal fossil
I think EB should make the resetted MS cost less rage
i would say thats a good change yeah
steep osprey
Improved Execute should refund 20% of the rage
teal fossil
but then you get into the problem of cancelaura it sometimes
and i dont think EB is bad because its rage intensive
rage outside of execute is cosmetic anyways
teal fossil
i think its bad because it costs a global to send out an unbuffed MS
steep osprey
Or nerf CT
and buff Improved
so we don't feel like we have to Pick CT to do Execute
steep osprey
that effect was baseline for years
Yeah, it was
and it was even 20% or 30%
before
they fucking broke it somehow
steep osprey
No fucking wonder we feel so rage starved during execute
teal fossil
well execute in shadowlands was just regular rotation with exec>slam
in BFA you had stuff juicing your rage
in DF we had an overtuned SOA for rage
so once you get rid of all 3 of those factors
ofc its gonna be intensive
steep osprey
Improved Execute should be baseline or buffed to 20%
maybe even 30% with nerfed CT
fuck this
teal fossil
i would do that yeah
teal fossil
they moved a part of the rage refund because they want the gateway talents to feel less bad
steep osprey
especially one like Execute
teal fossil
i still dont understand why we have such fucked up gateway talents
2 pointer for what
at least make the gate talents less obvious
steep osprey
Or they can just leave the refund like that
but cap execute damage to 20 rage
not 40
remove that
it should always cost 20
and nerf the ability slightly because it'd do too much damage for having cost 20
fresh spire
We should have a good few changes this week as compensation for changes
So hopefully some fun stuff
teal fossil
it should just be 20-30
teal fossil
We should have a good few changes this week as compensation for changes
we can expect ptr notes today?
steep osprey
No, I think everything should cost 20 except for MS
steep osprey
we can expect ptr notes today?
Probably not
fresh spire
Likely tomorrow if I had to make a bold guess as usually patch day is tuesday/wednesday
But it would be nice if we did
steep osprey
Krsip, what do you think of making Execute cost 20
fresh spire
Flat?
I've already made an argument about the cost being a bit much
20-40 doesn't work anymore when everything else was nerfed to 20 while rage was killed
steep osprey
Everything should cost 20 except MS
steep osprey
20-40 doesn't work anymore when everything else was nerfed to 20 while rage was ...
yep, exactly
minor gust
Well prob def see PTR notes this week
teal fossil
yeah i mean tomorrow
mb
i think 20-30 would be fine
and maybe a talent to let it do 20-40
fresh spire
They should just move the refunds around
teal fossil
or just make it flat 20 and have a talent to let to go into 20-40
fresh spire
So top is 20 bottom is 10
I done sims with them switched and bl caught up with jug in colossus in s1
Like there is defo room for improvement.
Execute is a bit too hungry for rage rn
Give slayer the min 10 refund baseline while cooking something for colossus
teal fossil
i dont mind if its MS on CD for colosus
minor gust
Tbh I'm not expecting any arms changes for PTR. They will prob fix the tier set and that's it
teal fossil
and execute until stacked for slayer
teal fossil
Give slayer the min 10 refund baseline while cooking something for colossus
yeah as it stands slayer has almost no interaction with execute the phase
may as well add something
minor gust
Again remember they are happy with the state of warrior
teal fossil
the havoc rework looking decent
fresh spire
I think their "state of warrior" was more of raid numbers than playstyle. They to busy seeing red with fury to think warrior bad
Arms died for prots/furys success
minor gust
nothing new
we loved seeing arms catch strays with no compensation till way later in the patch
because its to hard for blizzard to code arms and fury seperately
minor gust
slender sonnet
What the fuck is up with the mastery gear for arms on wowhead guide
I go away for 2 months and this happens
fresh spire
fresh spire
Mastery is fine for arms
slender sonnet
I know
quasi torrent
we need to master our bladework to blast more burst
boreal quartz
More paamp
thick kelp
fresh spire
quasi torrent
Plunderstorm tomorrow
Lets go, another season to not play
steep osprey
naive breach
tacit crystal
🙂
minor gust
Lets go, another season to not play
I feel like a study should be done on the people who refused to play and just pve till someone finds them so they run into the storm
the mental illness for wow transmog is crazy
quasi torrent
if u think wow tmog is mental illness
do NOT inspect ffxiv players
@halcyon breach can concur
halcyon breach
One visit to Limsa shows you all the worst sides of FF glamour collecting
halcyon breach
Very rarely
minor gust
oh I know FF is worse
quasi torrent
One visit to Limsa shows you all the worst sides of FF glamour collecting
(i most certainly dont spend half my time playing that game talking about fashion, surely not)
halcyon breach
Me when the catgirl is afk in Limsa inspecting everyone they see
dim basalt
Plunderstorm tomorrow
Tomorrow already?
quasi torrent
Me when the catgirl is afk in Limsa inspecting everyone they see
she has good eyes
all across the square
austere hamlet
Plunderstorm tomorrow
Do you know if it’s tomorrow for eu as well?
woven wasp
its wednesday
minor gust
legion SS when
shadow ibex
Lmao
Man fuck this
Meanwhile one of my capstones is a fuckin open world content proc on enemy death BS
tribal kindle
i wish we get this talent too 😞
minor gust
MM is prob gonna be my main alt for next patch shit looks cool
tribal kindle
MM is going to be my main , i love arms but at this point its just afterthought spec or just arena 3v3 spec
steep osprey
legion SS when
They either take that or trick shot so it’s very niche
Exactly only for two target cleave
steep osprey
MM is prob gonna be my main alt for next patch shit looks cool
Enha for me, looks even more fun this patch
olive nest
legion SS when
Waiting for the arms capstone
“sweeping strikes is now passive and always active”
chilly copper
“sweeping strikes is now passive and always active”
Would be too good. Whats that outlaw rogue you can maintain blade flurry 100% pretty easily?
olive nest
I don’t keep up on rogue that much really but I’m pretty sure they just permanently hit 5 targets
steep osprey
8
minor gust
Exactly only for two target cleave
Yeah I know it's a nice talent to have and something I would rather have than our current version of SS
It's still pretty fucking insane that SS is not an off gcd ability
olive nest
Imagine a cleave fight in rwf
minor gust
The half gcd is cringe and unnecessary.
minor gust
Feels like arms has really fallen off in 2 target as well compared to similar specs
shadow ibex
Still waiting for what Arms fantasy is
The mobile part is BS since it's the worst of the 3 specs; fury has just as many charges but runs faster and prot has shield charge as well as normal warrior charges
I'm like 99.99% sure tactician is only in the description because we have a talent called tactician
naive sage
Still waiting for what Arms fantasy is
I think if they could bring warrior to 2 specs they would
gaunt owl
we cant have anything
shadow ibex
Instead of my dps cool down nodes not being a choice
Fuckin dead talents as far as the eye can see
minor gust
Would be really nice to have a talent that makes MS/CS/Exe cleave to 1 xtra target
Die SS Die
gaunt owl
ping me when we get something
minor gust
see you in 13.3 then
gaunt owl
wow 2.0
new engine
new class
new azeroth because we clearly gonna blow this one up
tacit crystal
aint no way fish
fresh spire
gusty nymph
Start leveling your MM hunter 😀
The new version looks great and warrior « are in a good place »
rare kite
aint no way fish
you should never be surprised with arms
fresh spire
It's worse
tacit crystal
let me see
fresh spire
No bleeding points
No sd
2x ct
Ofc I've not changed apl to accompany new prios for aoe just trying talents. Be stupid to work on that today with a new build likely to drop tomorrow
tacit crystal
yesh
fresh spire
Likely good is we play almost damage build as now
(Torment cleave is still only like 2% better than Warlords)
So likely won't play it
fresh spire
I did have a good sim for spear and roar in past. Not even tried changing roar up yet as realistically playing 2point spear + Warlords and flat roar is kinda trolling for st
fresh spire
Bloodletting fatal
Drop 2x ct for eb and 1 deft
That's what I'm going to build around depending on fatal if it gets culled or not
fresh spire
<:okayge:917646812519739433>
Drop spear for Warlords and uproar
I need to dig into Dreadnaughts value. Honestly with mp being worth less than it was before and cleave and ms being better than before find it hard to justify it at a first glance.
It comes down to mob density too of the key
fresh spire
Dn needs a buff realistically
magic canopy
it was doing so much damage it got taken out back just like the rest of Arms kit
olive nest
DF S3 arms felt great to me
fresh spire
Mp give DN power
tacit crystal
wasnt dn half of dn being strong the fact it gave a 2nd op charge
minor gust
Either season 3 or 4 of DF DN was pretty much all our dmg in aoe
magic canopy
wasnt dn half of dn being strong the fact it gave a 2nd op charge
its also that we had like 3-4 talents that were just +OP damage which was also +DN
like 35% from battlelord that strait up got removed
shadow ibex
Fatality in dungeon build
we really need fatal to auto pop
and continue to pop if applied to target sub 30
im not at all interested in spending execute rage to pop a stack as colossus in aoe
weak rain
just bring back bfa bleed profile
idk it was super funny stacking tom then blood of the enemy pop bleedality
fresh spire
we really need fatal to auto pop
would be nice if we could still control it through execute while cleave pops also
so it just works on aoe without issue but can be ensured it's not wasted, biggest issue with it going auto is if we ever hit any end bosses with immunity phases/DR phases that will waste it
rare kite
just bring back bfa bleed profile
yikes
fresh spire
ngl deepwounds fucked in bfa
rare kite
it did a shit ton of damage sure
weak rain
I mean it was funny in nyalotha with blood of the enemy, stack tom with all the haste
blood of the enemy, boom
enjoy
rare kite
very strong but degen design
minor gust
it was funny but not the gameplay I want back
minor gust
give me my tactical slow big hits
fresh spire
know what was peak, putting down aftershock and trashpacks did nothing for a while
so you could fucking smack em
minor gust
thats what arms should always be
fresh spire
smacker
naive sage
Aftershock was peak
dire hinge
until movement denial mechanics came out and you get moved off your flower circle from sanguine 
silk spade
shadow ibex
same mfs who want it back think condemn was peak
Idk how anyone could like condemn. Use it 12 times on pull before boss hits below 80% yay
minor gust
shoulda gone to 60% sheesh
tacit crystal
what was condemn like
latent moss
know what was peak, putting down aftershock and trashpacks did nothing for a whi...
you know what was peak
pressing sweeping strikes
and mortal strike and it just fucked
brittle fiber
Idk how anyone could like condemn. Use it 12 times on pull before boss hits belo...
would be nice with current juggernaut tbh
but even then it's eh
brittle fiber
not playing wow and going hiking every sunday?
reef glade
(it wasn't)
it wasn’t like the most magical button on pure single target but on fights where you could do some decent sweeping shenanigans was so fun
Like huntsman or sire or council sorta
using it on anduin s4 prepatch was especially goofy
Like 60% of your damage xdd
Remember having to get a weakaura to remember to hit mortal strike and rend to keep the dots up
would just spam 15 condemns back to back easily
rocky quartz
Does a cancel aura macro work with demolish? I remember it working with bladestorm but demolish seems different
fresh spire
dire hinge
Does a cancel aura macro work with demolish? I remember it working with bladesto...
can also just press spacebar (cancels demolish)
But it’s best to not cancel and either use it when you know you’re safe, or you can Heroic Leap to reposition without cancelling
Eating your Demo CD is a massive dps loss
rocky quartz
Ohh I didn’t know spacebar canceled demolish. I’ve used leap before but I’ve had a couple situations where a swirl goes out in demolish and I die as I’m moving out
minor gust
not having to press sweeping strikes
based
shadow ibex
Like huntsman or sire or council sorta
Sure you could do cool stuff on huntsman but idk about court. You would be sweeping it from mob that's gonna heal to full. So you're hitting the boss that has to die for a 50% hit that already does shit dmg cuz condemn was ass dam already
Sire was nice too but once sword was below 80 you're lame again. Rather just be a NF
Didn't play s3/4 so idk how it was then but you'd have to look really hard to find anything redeeming for war in s1. It was real dark for a few months
reef glade
i mean i wasnt in a CE guild until s2 so i wasnt too sure about sire but im psure most played nightfae fury on that fight anyway
for add damage at least
shadow ibex
I don't think either was super ahead. Arms had "boss dam"
shadow ibex
Fury on slg was an actual spec tyo
reef glade
ya often 5target
i did 300 pulls of prog on that with a guild but then on kill night they sat me for an "old guildy" who technically had seniority but he left few months prior to trial in a different guild then failed and came back
so that was cool
also wasnt like fantastic then anyway but even still omega cring
played a 217 fire mage on sludgefist xdd
first and like only time i ever really played non warrior in serious mythic prog
i think i was doing kinda decent on it too it was sorta fun but got cucked on kill a bit
shadow ibex
sludgefist was super fun but if your dps was half decent he was below 80% before the first smash so condemn couldnt even get value with the incoming dmg debuff on him
idk you could right a fuckin essay on how downbad war was in s1
rocky quartz
sludgefist was super fun but if your dps was half decent he was below 80% before...
Facts. warrior was rough in s1 SL
shadow ibex
Huntsman was perfect fight for us but you'd lose to equally geared boomies and such
latent moss
Huntsman was perfect fight for us but you'd lose to equally geared boomies and s...
worth
for sod greatness
too bad the raid was dogshit
shadow ibex
at least once a week you got to do a big collateral dmg cast on the nine
then back to suffering
reef glade
idk why my guild was terrified of fatescribe
shadow ibex
just ass fight
intermission as melee was top 5 worst experiences in wow
begging to get rune mechanic so didnt have to deal with that shit
dire hinge
who doesn't love assignment rng that takes you out for 30+ seconds to just walk slowly in a circle
tacit crystal
swift crown
Fatescribe was a terrible fight in almost every way
And trust me being Ranged didn't make it better
junior trellis
tanking it was a delight. lol
quasi torrent
Fatescribe was a terrible fight in almost every way
good news for u then
the fight Designer for that one literally quit after it
(premeditated, so not a reaction)
steep osprey
good news for u then
the fight Designer for that one literally quit after it
No wonder
I hated that fight
Miss one small circle and it’s a wipe
Even tho it is fairly easy, it was still annoying as hell
swift crown
good news for u then
the fight Designer for that one literally quit after it
terrible news
fresh spire
Fate is easily top 5 of bosses I wished I could of skipped before even trying it on mythic
swift crown
Less to complain about
fresh spire
Our guild after first kill ended up getting kt skips from a friends guild to never have to go back to it until we unlocked skip
swift crown
Idk what would even go on my list for those
steep osprey
we were way longer on painsmith and I still remember it more fondly than I’ll ever remember fate lol
quasi torrent
No wonder
? read the next msg
it had nothing to do with the reception of the fight
steep osprey
I know, it doesn’t matter, I was memeing
quasi torrent
Bro had handed in resignation before the fight was tested the first time
swift crown
I do wonder what my bottom 5 fights I've progged would look like
steep osprey
Bro had handed in resignation before the fight was tested the first time
He just knew it was that bad he just had to hand in his resignation
steep osprey
I do wonder what my bottom 5 fights I've progged would look like
Fate, Sylvanas, Queen Azshara
Can’t remember right now
quasi torrent
I do wonder what my bottom 5 fights I've progged would look like
slg
silken court
ghuun
the blood court thing in nathria
sasszine (naga woman) in tomb
swift crown
Silken Court for sure on list
quasi torrent
not as bad as slg
but quite dog indeed
if mekkatorque was harder he'd be on there too
swift crown
SLG was my first actual prog boss (maybe regrettably) so I have some amount of nostalgia for it
But it did suck
quasi torrent
SLG was my first actual prog boss (maybe regrettably) so I have some amount of n...
after how many nerfs did u prog it
did u need 4 hunters to win or was less doable
swift crown
all of them
swift crown
idk Ovinax probably gets on my list purely based on how dogshit figuring out comp was
trim lintel
gray herald
Our guild after first kill ended up getting kt skips from a friends guild to nev...
we got a trial with kt skip and never progged fatescribe
(bad guild)
i am blind to the pain of fatescribe that everyone seems to have
blessed
ebon fern
It annoys me that blunt and war are a choice node
astral yarrow
Fatescribe was a 30 pull boss
although i do agree it could be annoying on reclear when people were looking to parse
ebon fern
Spiteful serenity is also completely useless and they really should do something about it
sacred zodiac
good news for u then
the fight Designer for that one literally quit after it
tbf fight wasnt that bad with the stand on rune as intermission starts strat
spiteful serenity is the best talent in the game
sacred zodiac
tbf fight wasnt that bad with the stand on rune as intermission starts strat
p3 somewhat fun since u actually had to play the puzzle
fresh spire
although i do agree it could be annoying on reclear when people were looking to ...
MY PAD IM NOT DOING RUNE
Issue we had was that you had to have reliable people and back when I prog it had recently merged my old guild in with current so roster was chaotic and player skill was all over place
Let's ve real. Painsmith as a fight was good. But also frustrating at same time
icy mulch
Fate, Sylvanas, Queen Azshara
Man, Queen Azshara fight seems like it was forever ago.
swift crown
p3 somewhat fun since u actually had to play the puzzle
Eh
The greatest thing about Fatescribe is it spawned the greatest meme my old guild managed to produce
boreal quartz
I killed Denathrius a week before SoD came out
I killed sark on 10.2 release before they disabled ce
It counts tho
eager sigil
based
boreal quartz
God we were horseshit
swift crown
CE counts
swift crown
All the micky mouse HoFs of the previous few tiers also count
boreal quartz
555 SARK pulls????
Yes
fresh spire
555 SARK pulls????
gray herald
YES
thick kelp
Your only competition on this spec is tmy and his 69 alts
charred brook
Oh good point
gray herald
doomed to be rank 70
naive sage
Your only competition on this spec is tmy and his 69 alts
Incredibly based human being
thick kelp
He couldnt talk in his gamer words anymore to win
fresh spire
fresh spire
👊🧒
zenith warren
are there any pros of playing arms on queen over fury?
thick kelp
More boss dam
zenith warren
my guild is going to start queen prog soon and we have 2 warriors, I wonder if 2 fury is an overkill right now
I always prefer arms if possible
zenith warren
nice, sounds good
gray herald
adds probably evaporate even without a fury at this point
olive nest
Kinda want to prog queen as arms but I’m only warrior so fury is probably the better pick
dim basalt
Kinda want to prog queen as arms but I’m only warrior so fury is probably the be...
Are you really a warrior if you think like that
(I just want an excuse to not play Fury when we kill Court)
olive nest
Heavily considering it
Arms is so much cooler
Fury is just so simple to play while progging
dim basalt
True
I dont have Fury gear so theres that
But I gotta check if it even sims that much lower with my arms gear
eager sigil
i just made a second set of crafted items
olive nest
For me it’s like yeah arms can sim a little higher but I’d also have it play it perfectly
eager sigil
i have different emblishes
dim basalt
o
thick kelp
Crazy bro
midnight mural
Warriorbrain
olive nest
Zug Zug
thick kelp
midnight mural
Them racials kinda good tho
thick kelp
Gonna fall off nxt tier
midnight mural
💸
olive nest
<@219708555832328193> are u okay
Boss?
thick kelp
Rasha
silent tendon
never been allowed to play arms on that boss
rapid bronze
Are you really a warrior if you think like that
based
midnight mural
allowed?
that is some special guild if those adds are a problem unless 1 person turbomashes them 😮
usually they evaporate anyway - shamans trying their hardest to instagib them
eager sigil
known rashanan dam doer
jade cargo
lean geode
known rashanan dam doer
Real
midnight mural
<@219708555832328193>who are U
been here for a while m8- i think im almost as old as you
jade cargo
no way
midnight mural
way
eager sigil
im only 2nd page rashanan
jade cargo
i think i joined like 2018
eager sigil
says 2016
lean geode
im only 2nd page rashanan <:sadge:820202363359854633>
I was trying to cheese rash parses early when adds didn't count by playing full single target fury, but our dh was put and RL made me play aoe build to kill adds gg
Would've been an easy r5-10 otherwise
last inlet
should i play assassin creed origins or valhala? while the server is down...
brave sapphire
<@154169716783579146>hello Vel - how are U and ur dogs
i'm good & they're good :)
tacit crystal
play touch grass
jade cargo
@quasi torrentperfectly fine - tanx for askin
last inlet
play touch grass
fine 😦
tacit crystal
<:dave:408301333771321345> i'm good & they're good :)
what do your dogs look like
brave sapphire
what do your dogs look like
tacit crystal
omggg
tacit crystal
gg
brave sapphire
(was never EU gg)
tacit crystal
love seeing tft in the background
quasi torrent
norway is just EEA not EU ye
rapid bronze
Since they have a lot of oil honestly EU should be trying to become Norway
finite mantle
olive nest
Todu!
scenic fjord
New arms player here—how recommended is it to hold off on MS to wait for OP buffs? Both pre- and inside execute phase
minor gust
MS on cd
scenic fjord
Same thing with Executioner's Precision and the tier set buff (though I know those are proc based and it's more of fishing for them than waiting for a CD)
roger roger o7
minor gust
during execute with tier dont MS till x2 EP and x2 tier
minor gust
op buff doesnt exist
scenic fjord
like it's nice if it's up but don't wait
minor gust
dont think about it
halcyon valve
The tier set would be instant banger if the effects were swapped
Each stack increases op damage and cooldown reduction
When it pops you do massive ms
crimson charm
@jade cargo Hey man, why is it every time you ping me, I'm AFK? :)
shadow ibex
Where's build
tacit crystal
who's build
shadow ibex
No build
tacit crystal
who's build
radiant phoenix
no build for you
shadow ibex
minor gust
New build is tomorrow John Blizzard told me
fresh spire
:sad:
shadow ibex
Mad
rare kite
don't worry. the only change they will make is "fatal mark can now crit"
minor gust
bold of you to assume well get any changes at all
remember warrior is in a fantastic spot!
we just got our 4th class tree "rework"!
fresh spire
don't worry. the only change they will make is "fatal mark can now crit"
its game over if thats case
100% stack max crit
rare kite
it's the worst change i could think of
rare kite
well worst plausible change
fresh spire
the actual look of it is nice
the biggest choice is do you wear the metal gear ray helmet or not
minor gust
my fav color variation
fresh spire
yeh its dope
rare kite
the biggest choice is do you wear the metal gear ray helmet or not
yes. i kinda dig it
fresh spire
i think the one above is the better looking helmet colour, much perfer yellow>red
minor gust
blizz needs to find the foot guy and demote him tho
fresh spire
dont you like your toes?
minor gust
why does like every other gear set have these fuckin toes
fresh spire
hahah
rare kite
race swap to troll or zandalari, that way you only have your own toes
fresh spire
holy real toes
minor gust
trolls dont have toes they have 2 massive thumbs