#arms
magic canopy
halcyon breach
Long and short though is, that this week it's not worth using because we have none of the good gems
quasi torrent
snap
quasi torrent
Long and short though is, that this week it's not worth using because we have no...
bro but rank1 healing parse will use it
i gotta m8
halcyon breach
bro but rank1 healing parse will use it
So true
I will willingly lose a gazillion dam for this
weary hull
ty
weary hull
sims low for noobs
quasi torrent
sims low for noobs
i think it only sims good if ur gear is dogshit
(my gear has not changed in 6 weeks)
weary hull
(my gear has not changed in 6 weeks)
balmy kindle
Losing at least 5% crit sucks 
livid cloak
I just have a haste mastery ring I'll probably replace with this thing
Easy
Why worry about stats when you can just push cleave and ms
Take ilvl so I can get into keys easier 
valid cedar
hi if i craft a 636 one handed would i get a "free upgrade" for my <636 2H
midnight mural
hi if i craft a 636 one handed would i get a "free upgrade" for my <636 2H
No, it only works the other way. 636 2H = Free 636 onehand upgrade
valid cedar
rip thank you
fresh spire
Also free for offhand 2 hander if you do one for fury
slow saddle
Then theres me with 2 crafted 636 weapons
😅
Vault and first boss does not dropp weap
fresh spire
Then theres me with 2 crafted 636 weapons
Fuark
slow saddle
Ye i mean at some point i just send the oh
boreal remnant
arms feels p good
icy mulch
arms feels p good
What key is that?
boreal remnant
ye
bleak fog
What specc you had there?
icy mulch
So we can get 4 gems this week?
4 gems, but missing 2 of the really good ones still.
I know it's not arms, but this was a 14 Mists. Shaman was fed every PI for the dungeon. We missed timer by a minute or two.
boreal remnant
I know it's not arms, but this was a 14 Mists. Shaman was fed every PI for the d...
love fotm rerollers
misty yew
why is hardcore so popular?
is it just more player friendly who just want to dip in/ out of gaming?
woven wasp
Because it released recently
unborn canyon
New fresh server of hc too
naive sage
Each time I cast mortal strike and it hits less than 1m a part of me dies forever
boreal quartz
Each time I cast mortal strike and it hits less than 1m a part of me dies foreve...
my court kill
almost x40 the dam from lowest to highest
xddd
naive sage
Nah 213k is like a white hit lmao
midnight mural
almost x40 the dam from lowest to highest
You probably sweeped on the small shitter adds while they had damage reduction up
boreal quartz
Why does the guide puts the new ring as alternate?
It's good once good gems are unlocked
uneven carbon
arms feels p good
Colos enjoyer or slayer?
boreal remnant
Colos enjoyer or slayer?
colos
boreal remnant
manic river
It's good once good gems are unlocked
Oh, but are all of them available or we have to wait a bit?
boreal quartz
Wait a bit
shadow ibex
trying to go back and collect xmogs from SL and holy fuck this expac is so ass
how the fuck did we play this shit
dire hinge
how the fuck did we play this shit
we were all stuck at home for a few years and there wasn't a lot of other games coming out at the time
shadow ibex
guess how many currencies start with soul
dire hinge
game dev as a whole was really rough there
shadow ibex
pick a number
dire hinge
7
languid burrow
that's one of the reasons Classic blew up when it first came out.
dire hinge
guess how many currencies start with soul
when items/spells have two words that make up its Proper Name, and the first one overlaps with like 5 other things, it hurts my brain
languid burrow
Whenever warrior sucks in WoW, you can always take a big ol' HUFF of Classic and see where they shined the most.
dire hinge
shield slam, shield block, shield charge, shield wall
languid burrow
sprays Classic in a paper bag and begins to huff
shadow ibex
i jsut want the black necrolord xmog
the sad thing is i liked a lot of the maw in theory. its got a lot of cool references to hell like the river cocytus where satan is frozen up to his waist in the divine comedy/dante's inferno
but its just a place on the map instead of something cool
vagrant monolith
how the fuck did we play this shit
Cause they knew what good seasonal affixes were for a couple seasons. After the disgusting abomination prideful was
sullen plover
arms feels p good
Colossus has been the most fun I’ve had on Warrior since TWW launched
boreal remnant
hitting a huge demolish goes hard
sullen plover
hitting a huge demolish goes hard
It’s crazy good on large pulls
You’re already top just from cleave
And then you spike 2x or 3x when the Demolish hits
I feel like we’re still getting bad threat gen like fury burst on some pulls but doesn’t seem as bad as fury (I dunno might be placebo)
I’d be dead from melee hit mid bladestorm on fury burst lol
But if there’s any wow devs reading this, Colossus is not fun and it’s terrible please buff no one is playing this
thick kelp
gg
proper lotus
Are there any guides with more depth of information/nuance than the Wowhead stuff?
Like what the target number is for cleave to overtake MS, how priority changes in 2/3/4/5 target with or without sweeping up, how the prio of cleave changes when ravager is up etc?
Happy with written or video or anything
indigo trout
Which crafted weapon is the best one, does it matter? (Axe/Polearm/Mace/Sword)
proper lotus
Which crafted weapon is the best one, does it matter? (Axe/Polearm/Mace/Sword)
Identical, just choose the stats you want
shadow ibex
healers have to spam heal
do they give a buff per heal on whoever they heal or something
lmao
wins
halcyon valve
sullen plover
TBF the fury and the evoker were NOT good
When the other classes in the group are competitive, it honestly felt bad trailing them as fury. Arms feels so good because you’re ahead the whole time
manic river
Dude I've just seen a pala tank do more damage tan the DPSs in the aprty with the CDs, wtf is that he doesn't even have more ilvl than us
And Blizz doesn't see that as something to nerf?
timber sundial
new ring shit or op?
fossil thistle
Are there any guides with more depth of information/nuance than the Wowhead stuf...
Not really.
Sweeping strikes MS does more on 2T and you still press it during normal AoE rotation
Cleave is still pressed with SS up on 2T because of FoB (I think it’s called)
I prio MS during SS on up to 3 targets, without SS I prio cleave
Nothing really changes with your rotation during ravager iirc, SS demolish go big though
Also, typically AoE is 3+
halcyon valve
new ring shit or op?
#updates-midnight
Only really strong once its fully upgraded and with the correct gems
Right now you only have a healing gem for one slot (which does a lot of healing tbh) so its a dps loss atm
minor gust
do they give a buff per heal on whoever they heal or something
Pretty sure one of the gems this week was when you heal proc 4 allies thunderlord gem
smoky kayak
any ability will trigger it, but yeah - healers can use it to proc dps player's gems
balmy kindle
TBF the fury and the evoker were NOT good
Fury is balls since you are locked to 5T. Survivability is not that big of an issue as well on lower keys (10-11 range )
terse osprey
How close is arms and fury in dmg in pve?
tacit crystal
arms slightly ahead
halcyon breach
Depends entirely on the context
In m+ both specs do good, though in raid depending on the boss, Fury absolutely clears Arms
(And vice versa for ST as arms)
tacit crystal
i forgor but banezi is correct
indigo trout
What are the BiS gems in the new ring for arms
fresh sierra
healers arent keeping up w queensbane so ppl are bleeding out while waiting for orbs
uneven carbon
arms feels p good
ACtually, what variation do you prefer for Colos?
I ahve been running Battlelord and Strength of Arms, and only opting into MBG, when we were running SV or Wake.
uncut gazelle
Is sweeping strikes 8 yards from our location or our targets location?
balmy kindle
run spear and blademaster torment
This good for keys ? Still running roar mostly
Kind of Sims lower iirc for dungeon slice
boreal remnant
ACtually, what variation do you prefer for Colos?
I ahve been running Battlelor...
I ran this
fresh spire
Whats dn
fresh spire
thick kelp
boreal quartz
weak wave
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fMqAkgeoMz4zfmsFnFCcmb
3.1% only from Thunderlord Citrine.
According to this that sim can't be correct:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234949058121171069/1318676551939919992/cfcbabf844c5680d1d64b0e46dd44e55.png?ex=6764823d&is=676330bd&hm=2fc329485385279c00c29e278a6312e4f4534db90aca0abbca64c60b1b46c293&
boreal quartz
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fMqAkgeoMz4zfmsFnFCcmb
3.1% only from Th...
Compare the gems the data has vs the one u have
fresh spire
It's more for fury
weak wave
Compare the gems the data has vs the one u have
The Data has 3 gems plus max ring level I have only one gem and low Ring level.
fresh spire
Data also has full preset bis meaning you are swapping the current best item before ring for the ring which will impact overall numbers.
Just because your proc has done 3.1% you have to remember you lost all those stats of value from your other abilities
weak wave
Data also has full preset bis meaning you are swapping the current best item bef...
Is the data from the gems that are not live yet ptr data?
fresh spire
Ofc all sims archi posts are preliminary sims. They are rough estimates. You tend to see most times info is pushed that something is patched on raidbots after that wasn't working as intended.
Rechecking the bis profile ring is around 3%
For arms
3.2ish for colossus
Fury value likely gone up a little more since too
Skipper was updated around time sims was posted likely causing the difference in nunbers
balmy kindle
Now if blizzard will stop time gating 
icy mulch
Do we even know the schedule for each gem release? Or is the BiS gems just gonna be 2 or 3 weeks?
still fox
soo sorry but what is new with the small patch? can we get a good ring or not? yet? xD
still fox
can i anything to this week ? 😄
icy mulch
You can get the ring to 642
still fox
kk 🙂
tranquil sundial
do we save cds at any point for queen mythic? Or mostly just send?
naive sage
do we save cds at any point for queen mythic? Or mostly just send?
You can check on lorrgs.io to see what top players do
viral locust
qq when is best to use on use trinket? with avatar, roar or col smash?
like skar or transmitter
cant see it in the rotation/opener guides only thing I found was the col smash macro
#showtooltip Colossus Smash
/use Colossus Smash
/use Blood Fury
/use Berserking
/use 13
/use 14
so do we use it there/
smash seems logical to me since its 30% damage vs 20% avatar
also idk, avatar is 20s, col smash is 10s and trinket like skar lasts 15 seconds
calm glen
why should I use rend over TC in single target? isnt it same dot dmg?
Or is it about the initial dmg?
thick kelp
initial
calm glen
Okay and sceond question: Why should I use cleave while sweeping strikes is active? (I should based on guides but I dont know why)
sly venture
Cleave does dmg even in SS
Too much to prio something else
i mean on a target count that is cleave
thick kelp
Okay and sceond question: Why should I use cleave while sweeping strikes is acti...
fob
calm glen
Okay, and would I use buffed cleave in ST?
thick kelp
yeah if it doesnt consume your mp stacks
vast surge
Question for the people. If blizzard was going to remove either champion spear or thunderous roar, which would you want to keep and why?
sly venture
There's only one answer to that
teal fossil
Question for the people. If blizzard was going to remove either champion spear o...
If things are tuned correctly than obviously roar
But that’s not a good question to ask
Tomorrow they could tune up the spear buff by 25%
And everyone would be in love with spear and you’ll get a different answer
dark kindle
Spear is butt, big dam or no. I'd rather roar >.>
sly venture
And everyone would be in love with spear and you’ll get a different answer
In love? Sorry hekili tor edition but ppl would be forced
😄
quasi torrent
hekili tor edition
teal fossil
Hekili tor edition
quasi torrent
got
teal fossil
Gyatt
quasi torrent
silence
vast surge
Personally, if champ spear was better than TR I’d be upset having to play it.
Foos roh dah will never be beat.
I wish we could have TR be more customisable either a burst damage playstyle with more upfront damage and a shorter bleed duration. Or what it does now giving you a long sustained bleed effect.
Anyway, I was reminded that a long time ago TR did triple damage when it crit and every warrior thought they were Dragonborn.
Spear could have been a big dam single target or 2- target grip like what the siege of boralus raiders can do but it’s a brown smear on the floor. With homebrand ursol’s vortex.
quasi torrent
ok but just turn off dmg numbers
teal fossil
No
quasi torrent
hmm Yes
quasi torrent
bro is crit fishing in wow
viral locust
qq when is best to use on use trinket? with avatar, roar or col smash?
anyone recommend which?
thick kelp
avatar
if u have transmitter
use it before
and complete the task when u press avatar
vocal gust
Is Colosus ok to use in Raid these days or is it still so far behind its a a big detriment? I prefer it over Slayer honestly.
thick kelp
yeah
viral locust
thanks
halcyon valve
Equipping the size increasing ring gem just to feel something
shadow ibex
Pause
olive nest
Pause
halcyon valve
Paws
fresh spire
gaunt owl
fringe moon
you guys see the sample tier set bonuses for next tier? Looks like blizzard going all in on RNG
tacit crystal
fresh spire
i cant wait for our 4p to be
fresh spire
When you proc the 2p gain avatar or reck depending if arms or fury
and it has 0 interaction with the torments
tacit crystal
bring back torment on reck
tacit crystal
yep
fresh spire
i miss my really small but rage friendly buff
tacit crystal
what if we had df arms
fresh spire
biggest wonder is what class changes will be
fresh spire
Still need the gap closer between colossus and slayer still, given Colossus gains like 2x the value from current set its gonna need something nice
fringe moon
When you proc the 2p gain avatar or reck depending if arms or fury
so shadowlands CB proc all over again....
fresh spire
its weird to think because its likely going to end up as Reckless for fury and Colossus smash for arms if they follow that route
halcyon valve
When you proc the 2p gain avatar or reck depending if arms or fury
And 4 pcs adds 2 new mortal strike modifiers
fresh spire
deez?
halcyon valve
Modify deez strikes
fresh spire
whats Dn
tacit crystal
naive sage
Slam set
fresh spire
:ohno:
halcyon valve
During avatar slam does 200% increased damage
naive sage
Just like s2 df ptr 
halcyon valve
During avatar slam does 200% increased damage
And every consecutive slam increases slams damage for the remaining duration of avatar for another 15%
halcyon valve
Avatar increases size by 50%
naive sage
Avatar increases size by 50%
Real
halcyon valve
Bonus: you can now step on people for damage
fresh spire
spam jump
halcyon valve
Jumping causes localized earthquakes
fresh spire
adadad causes earthquakes
halcyon valve
Were reinventing d3 barb lets go
halcyon valve
Every cleave now is the final hit of demolish
weak wave
With M+ Colossus I only use MS in execute phase to refresh debuffs?
bleak fog
Imagine D3 chargebuild in WoW
Charge and pull all mobs with you in one big explosion.
Next!
halcyon valve
d3 whirlwind 
bleak fog
Rightklick and go afk
weak wave
Well there was an earthquake build for warriors in Torghast 😄
halcyon valve
true
dreamy sleet
d3 hammerdin barb
naive sage
Were reinventing d3 barb lets go
It would be cool to have 4 weapons like d4 barbarian tho lmao
spec named arms
only 1 weapon all the time
halcyon valve
yeah but we have 2 arms
fresh spire
give prot 2 1 handers and swap block to parry :sus:
when you realise its just dk
:ohno:
naive sage
Frost dk tank back in wotlk
halcyon valve
Give arms dual wield and fury 1 2h options
no no no
make arms weapons bigger
updated demolish
unborn canyon
Make it so that size increase is applied to your weapon instead
sullen plover
I like this energy you guys, keep it going
Make helmet smaller and apply size increase to just the arms
dire hinge
nerf mages by taking away their model's muscles, give them to us instead 
no reason a human mage that fit
dreamy sleet
started arms and theres something about large mortal strikes that just chefs kiss my smooth brain
weak rain
why nerf bleeds xd, how about they do something with talents that are completely useless, like overpowerd 8 rage in exe phase and cleave cost talent
these are jokes
dreamy sleet
frig did i start arms in the middle of spec tuning
tranquil sundial
atleast theyre buffing survivability
weak rain
Arms
(2) Set: Your spells and abilities have a chance to activate a Winning Streak! increasing the damage of your Mortal Strike and Cleave by 2%, stacking up to 10 times. Overpower has a 15% chance to remove Winning Streak!
(4) Set: When your Winning Streak! ends, Overpower deals 20% additional damage and recharges 75% faster for 2 seconds per stack of Winning Streak! you had.
junior siren
i sim and am at 750k dps at 608 ilvl is that good or bad or average
tranquil sundial
Arms
(2) Set: Your spells and abilities have a chance to activate a Winning Stre...
asscheeks
dreamy sleet
they couldnt have thought of something better than "winning streak!" ... thats not very ... warriorish
uncut tangle
back to enduring blow
uncut tangle
they couldnt have thought of something better than "winning streak!" ... thats n...
all* melee dps ones are called winning streak
weak rain
I bet it's like 1% dps gain for 4 set
serene hollow
they still have time to change it to mortal strike
dreamy sleet
still lame
dreamy sleet
rogues are down bad
uncut tangle
if you flip it around it'll be meh, cuz you'd be removing all your stacks with your main button
but it that you spin the wheel with enduring blow and hope for ms resets
candid pecan
Arms and "stacking up to 10 times" should never exist
serene hollow
leave it as overpower removing it, but mortal strike benefitting from it
candid pecan
maybe stack up to 3 times max
weak rain
I feel like this set is more slayer because of OP buff
thick hamlet
weak rain
This 15% ms buff should make MS useable on 2 exe precision stacks again probably at least
fresh spire
delaying MS over execute will be bad in general in colossus because no more CDR/stacks for Demolish
so likely end up Ms>execute
fresh spire
i mean it was still exe exe ms
weak rain
delaying MS over execute will be bad in general in colossus because no more CDR/...
was talking about st slayer
shadow ibex
As colossus I mean
fresh spire
Slayer likely will ms on cd
fresh spire
with buff, once i have answers ill give some more accurate info instead of yapping 👍
in full bis it did yeh
it sitll liked 2x set
but it was like 2-3k dps gain so just killed it off
shadow ibex
in full bis it did yeh
Removing stacks from exe feels weird. Was that due to demo stacks or ms feeling bad to pres
halcyon valve
Like was colossus prioing Exe over ms
Only during ravager
weak rain
I feel like nerfing burst aoe more is just questionable from them(I am talking about roar and bloodborne nerf)
shadow ibex
Is removing the colo stacks from Exe affect anything
fresh spire
nerfs was to the bleeds mostly
shadow ibex
I was already ms on cd
fresh spire
likely still 2ep ms
fresh spire
but there could be a chance with the extra damage bleeds nerfed, EB might become more involved where EP is just ignored over MS usage
its just the bonus
give the guys some time at raidbots hq to get this stuff all coded and imported
then i can check stuff
alot of work ahead
real goats doing the hard work
tranquil sundial
and 4% avoidance right
fresh spire
we dont know about the avoidance yet
we have some baseline, its more to do with if thats removed and baked in or if that goes ontop
severe crag
Gonna change to MT just so I can roll around with 8 million health.
fresh spire
ez
halcyon valve
Hm these changes are a bit odd
shadow ibex
The demo stack on exe is a head scratcher
Op whatever
Bb whatever. Just make it 1 point nerds
fresh spire
think they are trying to cut bleed damage back to give Finishing blows/Eb more value
severe crag
Just role colossus and play Count von Count counting to 10 on repeat in the background on your second monitor. Since stacking things to 10 is apparently what all warriors want
fresh spire
being able to OP spam with set could be valuable for FB in execute
if the whole idea is to completely ignore execute and go hard spaming MS/op for BL
talking about colossus*
halcyon valve
Tbh i feel like with these changes its not gonna change anything in m+
You already take eb and all that, dont ever use execute, the rotation is probably gonna stay roughly the same
fresh spire
cleave and MS baseline hitting harder is good
halcyon valve
I think baseline colossus ms will just do more than execute now
halcyon valve
Theyre already close as is
Some time in the past for me it was like 402k vs 419k dmg
shadow ibex
if the whole idea is to completely ignore execute and go hard spaming MS/op for ...
Was it not already
I haven't played it st in raid just court
And m+
shadow ibex
But it wasn't prio exe over ms
fresh spire
on sims RN it doesnt
halcyon valve
No but its still good
shadow ibex
But they said removing demo from exe was to make us not prio it?
fresh spire
but it Should
as 2x LB was > ms
but it was such a small number we cut it out for ease of use
brittle fiber
i'm confused why overpower is so heavily built into the tier set. would we just not press overpower until 10 stacks of winning streak so we don't lose the buff?
shadow ibex
I hate that bonus
fresh spire
filler
shadow ibex
I swear to fuck if we avoid pressing OP until a certain stack
I'll burn this place down
brittle fiber
the tier set also just straight up doesn't do shit in execute phase right?
fresh spire
we will likely have sims done around sets as soon as we can so we can complain if its actually aids
brittle fiber
i'm very confused as to how it'll interact in execute
halcyon valve
the tier set also just straight up doesn't do shit in execute phase right?
Passive ms damage
shadow ibex
I mean they could just tune it until we don't do that
But we said that about this tier weak aura set bonus
brittle fiber
oh i'm a moron it's all spells and abilities have a chance to activate winning streak, not just mortal strike and cleave
they should've done it like unholy where dark transformation guarantees stacks and made avatar do the same
halcyon valve
Spamming slam as filler
Also lol 20% op damage and 75% faster recharge lmao
Feels so inconsequential
brittle fiber
i personally hate pressing OP
it felt good in classic because it's like "oh the rogue popped evasion? heh."
tranquil sundial
make mortal strike recharge 75% faster
brittle fiber
real
tranquil sundial
be like machine gunning MS
halcyon valve
Increase ms recharge speed, and reduce ms cost?
tranquil sundial
looking like fury will have it really bad tho
or are they just dooming in that channel?
halcyon valve
I have hidden the fury channel, i dont care
tranquil sundial
kekw
brittle fiber
my plan next season was to go whatever tier set looked fun, but at this point it's either fire mage, outlaw rogue, unholy dk or warlock
halcyon valve
Warlock set fucks
brittle fiber
like every warlock set just goes hard
halcyon valve
Aff is juicy
halcyon valve
Lol
brittle fiber
going off set alone, sin rogue is going to go hard in aoe and outlaw looks like its got a good chance of consistently doing well
halcyon valve
I do very much enjoy the flavor of the set bonus effect names tho, they did a good job with those
brittle fiber
I think spriest's tier set is also nutty
halcyon valve
Fkin insurance
brittle fiber
spriest getting a flat 5 seconds of PI is going to be fucked
weak rain
Machine gun MS with test of might meta KEKW
shadow ibex
Gamba spec
elder nacelle
ugh all melees having some shit rng tier, while range have basically "skill x guarantees y"
shadow ibex
Always was
slow saddle
Why dont blizzard think
shadow ibex
When I think arms I think winning streak for sure
slow saddle
Arms has so many stackables
shadow ibex
Lmao
halcyon valve
You complained about too many ms modifiers
Well heres one that also stacks 10 times
elder nacelle
I liked when tiers were basically "we change how you play now"
slow saddle
Let me slam a millli8n executies that blows up
slow saddle
You complained about too many ms modifiers
Well heres one that also stacks 10 ti...
This
halcyon valve
Id rather have a gamble one like warlock
Every ms has a chance to let the next slam be free and do 500% damage
Avatar resets the cooldown of colossus smash and makes your next 2 slams do 500% damage
Even that would be funnier
elder nacelle
agree, the current one is just not fun
slow saddle
Let tier reset cs
elder nacelle
I might just switch to Fury to have way less brain use
brittle fiber
Think it should be something along the lines of
(2) Set: Your spells and abilities have a chance to activate a Winning Streak! increasing the damage of your Mortal Strike, Execute and Cleave by 2%, stacking up to 10 times. Overpower has a 15% chance to remove Winning Streak!
(4) Set: Casting Avatar grants up to 10 stacks of Winning Streak! When your Winning Streak! ends, Mortal Strike deals 20% additional damage and recharges 75% faster for 2 seconds per stack of** Winning Streak!** you had.
elder nacelle
I mean Fury already is Gamba for what procs, but atleast you still just go full no-brain into it
brittle fiber
or just more bladestorm cd reduc
edgy solstice
ngl it's better than what we doing rn so can't complain. gamba part is bad ig if you're a diehard mythic pink parser but those aren't real human beings anyway
halcyon valve
Or in terms of winSTREAK
2 set: Critical hits of your direct abilities (not dots) make your next colossus smash do 5% more damage (up to 8 stacks)
4 set: every stack used by cs reduces avatar cd by 2 seconds, avatar increases your damage by an additional 10%
Big cash outs
Or each stack increases crit chance by 2% for 12 seconds, but they dont refresh the duration
Keep gambling
livid cloak
The stamina is welcome
And extra avoidance
Wonder if the bleed changes will drop bb and push into execute
But man cleave and ms changes are nice
cyan oriole
what the hell are these tier sets
edgy solstice
seasonal
unkempt wren
what the hell are these tier sets
Really good jokes
cyan oriole
just going off the notes the warrior one looks boring as hell(again) and then shamans get a free fire elemental
fervent glen
prot set looks good but arms one looks awful wtf
livid cloak
Ms and cleave Unga
edgy solstice
seems ok tbh. tier sets, specifically 2pc, generally never move the needle anyway so this isn't really any different other than it being easier to balance bc it's more normalized across the board
vague sedge
Is it just me or does the arms 2 and 4pc seem ass
weak rain
damn, dk set visually fucks
minor gust
Man is it depressing to see the opening line of the warrior section being were happy with the overall state of warrior
minor gust
That arms rework is never happening
weak rain
thats 20seconds you never press slam
Shhhh, or they are going to replace overpower buff on 4set with slam
fresh spire
FUARK
tbf as stupid as it seems
it will give Battlelord some value as more op more resets
less slams more op is also ok
shadow ibex
That arms rework is never happening
Nope
shadow ibex
That arms rework is never happening
First words are we're happy with warrior
fresh spire
i wonder how it will actually play
if we get 10 stacks mega fast then having it all time the time will kill slam
:gg:
shadow ibex
If we end up skipping OP until X stacks
I swear to fuck man
Don't come to work the next day
silk spade
can press ms again hopefully
minor gust
Class tree changes seem good at least that's about it rest is whatever
fresh spire
If we end up skipping OP until X stacks
as long as we aren't delaying its actual use yep
if we need to press it but we shouldnt as slam > op to keep ms damage thats bruh
can we just have a tier were we dont need 4 execute reasons to press sd
fresh spire
the dream is execute becomes a slam replacement
and we love pressing ms
imagine it though, run into trash pack, hit up good old sweepy
Cleave>ms on repeat as eb givingyou fat resets, stack up 20% damage and never drop it, good luck with procs
press op 😦
weak rain
Why don't they just make bloodborne 1 talent, instead of 2, like fury
Still don't understand why they are nerfing bleed dmg
Noone like spear anyway(with 1.5 min cd)
fresh spire
likely to turn putting more damage back into buttons, knocking sks down a little bit in process
hard to say when tuning passes havent gone out
they could have buffed baseline bleeds in coming weeks which is why they hit them
minor gust
That would a crazy world if we just never press op to keep the 2pc buff
fresh spire
we already existed in a world for delaying ms until 2 stacks of lethal blows, sometime even hitting execute like 10 times in a row
all for like 8k damage increase
minor gust
The pendulum swings doesn't it
fresh spire
someone stop it!
we dont really know the full extent to how it really plays out until we can try stuff, might be they just wanted to bring 1/2 bb in line with EB
both specs basically ran the entirely same loadouts
minor gust
Yeah we'll see hope there's more to come
minor gust
But again seeing the were happy with the overall state of arms is depressing
fresh spire
im hoping with the MS buff and other changes to MP that we might see BL rise up with colossus while slayer still executes
shadow ibex
i mean it already should
fresh spire
given one is about execute and one is about ms
shadow ibex
the fact it doesnt is a failure on them
fresh spire
check through the datamine
shadow ibex
But again seeing the were happy with the overall state of arms is depressing
tactician gameplay until heat death of universe
minor gust
I love how for fury instead of designing new talents to make recklessness more impactful they go the lazy route and revert RA back to shadowlands
Creativity long dead for warrior
magic canopy
not a fan of the removal of execute in Colossus might
minor gust
I'm not either but it's whatever
shadow ibex
if anything colo could use more of a reason to use it in m+
exe sitting doin nothing in aoe
coulda brought back tclap stomp
shadow ibex
its impossible to
press it once and there goes rage
auto swing back up to 27
gg wait another 2.3 seconds for next swing
weak rain
Isn't low row change due to removal of endurance traning bad? WEapon specialization is now 2 points, instead of 1, so you will have to give up something in the end anyway
shadow ibex
minor gust
Isn't low row change due to removal of endurance traning bad? WEapon specializat...
Other things are moving around and endurance training is going into armor talent
weak rain
Other things are moving around and endurance training is going into armor talent
I understand that, it's gone entirely from that row, but we aren't taking that anyway now
so that row ends up with extra 1 point required for 2hand specialization
magic canopy
@calm vessel year of the fish. collossus arms is gonna fuck so hard
weak rain
no?
magic canopy
next tier
minor gust
We don't know for sure how the class tree will play out until we see it
tired sinew
dreamt that there was a warrior rework.. woke up to this.. not sure how to feel.
weak rain
Also hillarious how fury torments are getting reworked, but arms torments untouched(looking at you, reck proc)
minor gust
There will never be a arms rework because blizz likes it
fresh spire
Isn't low row change due to removal of endurance traning bad? WEapon specializat...
the 30 rage node is 1 point now so you have 1 back
they moved around the gate nodes too each talent set while armor of teeth is removed in prot
so potentially gone in other specs also, they are still working out some datamine stuff
sullen plover
Raid is themed around a casino (which involves chance and luck). People complain about raid tier set involving chance and luck
magic canopy
i think the change is just to balance out reinforced
sullen plover
These doomers are really running out of things to argue
magic canopy
2 point reinforce and 1 point overwhelm
vs 2 over 1 force
same talents points dif spots
minor gust
Raid is themed around a casino (which involves chance and luck). People complain...
Problem is a lot of people don't like that gameplay especially when it's being added on top of the specs RNG
weak rain
if armor is gone, thats another nerf though, no ?
fresh spire
would be a nerf if it was gone yes, but tuning is a thing
weak rain
it's like 6k str right now
sullen plover
Problem is a lot of people don't like that gameplay especially when it's being a...
NGL it was bad in shadowlands when our legendary was RNG for bladestorm other abilities I don’t remember on top of my head
weak rain
NGL it was bad in shadowlands when our legendary was RNG for bladestorm other ab...
enduring blow KEKW, sometimes I had 40sec duration CS on the boss
fringe moon
Are they nerfing tactician in 11.1?
fresh spire
hopefully wowhead will have some talent trees datamined for us to try out soon enough
sullen plover
But like the whole theme of the raid is chance/RNG. I don’t mind it if it fits the whole theme they’re going with
minor gust
Nah fuck themes
sullen plover
Raid is set in a casino mansion
minor gust
Stop mixing theme and gameplay
sullen plover
Dragon riding , dragon flight
minor gust
It's the same bullshit like raid swirls being same color as the floor because muh theme
sullen plover
It's the same bullshit like raid swirls being same color as the floor because mu...
Well yeah that’s really bad, I hate that
Brown swirly in Siege is crazy work
minor gust
Sorry guys this boss casts purple spells so everything about the boss room needs to be a shade of purple
sullen plover
Sorry guys this boss casts purple spells so everything about the boss room needs...
Sooooo bad
Sarkareth
fresh spire
feel like one boss every tier has fittingly fun coloured circles matching the ground
sullen plover
Shit even stone legion general. Brown swirly on brown floors
fringe moon
So like the 2pc charges…with how often tactician procs, will we ever be able to accumulate high stacks?
fresh spire
EB so much that we dont op anyway
minor gust
11.1 arms rotation MS slam win
shadow ibex
Arms young boy never change again
fresh spire
come on and slam and welcome to the jam
me fishing my ms stacks for my 2x mp 2x ep sudden death combo wombo killer
weak rain
Also, right now reinforced plate is 1 talent, it will be 2 talents, it's compensated by overwhelming rage being 1 point instead of 2
but no compensation for 2handed spec talent being 2 instead of 1
minor gust
fresh spire
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1042762634539319366/1053485451668901988/20221217_013459.gif
minor gust
No Overpower like God intended
woven wasp
but no compensation for 2handed spec talent being 2 instead of 1
Presumably the bottom of the tree is being rearranged, we don't know how that looks yet
balmy kindle
Oo 11.1 changes kind of ok ? 
weak rain
On paper it looks fine, but my gut tells me that something is fishy
minor gust
poor fury titans torment change was good imo besides the whole losing another root break but man RA being reverted is dumb af imo
tribal kindle
Warbringer is dead now and we don't know what it dose
minor gust
lmao
I didnt see that guess I can finally change my name
@shadow ibex the talent kept confusing them so they removed it
tall socket
wow this person has no idea how arms warrior plays
tribal kindle
i think warrior dev is only playing arena , we got some cool stuff but too bad its just pvp
i think this should apply while in a party too
unborn canyon
wow this person has no idea how arms warrior plays
wtf lol
that dev is brain dead
indigo trout
I also was thinking the same thing. What a dumb dev note lol
unborn canyon
its like how they said they didnt like how arms used the same main talents for the whole expac in df, while also saying they didnt like how fury swapped around talents the whole expac
fresh tide
"Using your hard hitting ability regularly is core to the playstyle, therefore we are making your hard hitting ability less frequent"
??????
unborn canyon
hey, maybe
this hints
that juggernaut changed to affect MS
no way it will, but we can hope
jade ember
didnt you hear man MS is the new cool kid on the block they want you to MS on CD during execute or sumn (i have no idea help)
fresh tide
It's mostly ok stuff but they balance it out by making bizarre changes no one asked for
warped spade
wow this person has no idea how arms warrior plays
I guess execute is not "hard hitting"
fresh tide
it also directly translates to less demolish casts, so it doesn't even make sense from that standpoint
tribal kindle
maybe they are removing execute for arms
jade ember
finally
just give us the 4p all the time and let me spam overpower like ive always wanted
tribal kindle
passive execute + passive sweeping strikes 🙏
edgy solstice
year of the spear
balmy kindle
New talent tree 
spear the play now ?
balmy kindle
Of course we can't get the crit talent
edgy solstice
execute stonks so down for colo anyway
jade ember
Wonder how Col and Slayer will compare for M+ with the Cleave/Reap change and a little less Demos
minor gust
me when i realize I have to find another keybind spot because roar and spear share the same keybind
edgy solstice
blizzard can be heroes rn and change exhil to combo
balmy kindle
Mortal combo 
balmy kindle
Combo double crit with sweeping giving us insane Colo stacks
Also nice to see DK tears on reddit 
, they had it coming
shadow ibex
<@364971082932813824> the talent kept confusing them so they removed it
You're kidding
Oh that's perfect
smoky kayak
wow this person has no idea how arms warrior plays
Here's how Colossus Arms Warrior currently plays
- spam Execute
Here's how they (and most players have said they) want it to play - press Mortal Strike more
brisk flower
any update on plate juggling arms rework
tall socket
execute is just a filler for fury and protection. They want to turn it into a filler for Arms too lol
minor gust
ngl this monk set goes pretty hard
shadow ibex
Here's how Colossus Arms Warrior currently plays
- spam Execute
Here's how they ...
where is this coming from? it only spams execute during ravager because of unhinged
the APL doesnt even say this
if anything the biggest culprit is LB not a stack of demo
assuming im reading this correctly, it'd be sending MS with x2 EP without the 4pc not spamming exe
obv 4pc is equipped so that has 0 cases of it actually happening
devout pewter
Did I miss something, why is Berserker Shout a Talent again in the 11.1 tree? Or is it just a WoWhead thing?
smoky kayak
where is this coming from? it only spams execute during ravager because of unhin...
Correct - unless you're using Battlelord (which is non-standard), Mortal Strike is only used to refresh Rend or with two stacks of Lethal Blows... and Lethal Blows won't exist anymore in Season 2
in a standard ST sim, Mortal Strike is used less than 10 times throughout the entire Execute phase, the rest is all Execute and Overpower
cobalt sinew
from what i am hearing with the 4pc arms sounds cooked
smoky kayak
I definitely consider this spammy - Execute triggering Colossal Might is part of the problem, as is the baseline power level of Mortal Strike itself
minor gust
from what i am hearing with the 4pc arms sounds cooked
what 4pc there is no 4pc on MS and Slam
cobalt sinew
execute mage
smoky kayak
I like Execute, don't get me wrong, but pressing Mortal Strike only once every 10s is also pretty lame
cobalt sinew
o O (maybe its time they rework arms)
smoky kayak
Personally, my ideal would be something like MS -> Exe -> Exe -> OP -> MS, keeping MS mostly on cooldown, enough rage to stack EP without completely starving, and sprinkling in OP to fill
minor gust
op replacing the third exe is good too aslong as the rotation keeps that nice rythmn
smoky kayak
with a little variance of course, cause it's not that clean, but the current tuning is all sorts of scuffed - if it wasn't for the S1 4p, you almost wouldn't press MS at all
regal wharf
im sorry
this sounds awful
the 2 set sounds terrible to have
and this whole set seems geared to Colossus
balmy kindle
I don't think it's too terrible, just lame
regal wharf
i mean like
just reading it, it sounds like the 2 set is going to be really frustrating to play around
without the 4 piece
balmy kindle
True, but the set bonuses also seems to be made in a way where you don't really need to focus on it
Just play and let rngseus take the wheel
dusty dagger
what in god's name is happening with our class tree, why are 2 of our auto pick nodes 2 points now
shadow ibex
we really just need to make sure we dont have a situation where we avoid casting OP until X stacks cuz the math says so
aka the same exact situation as MS in like half the tiers since these talent trees were introduced
balmy kindle
Hard to tell now , hopefully it works out
shadow ibex
so ngl I dont trust blizzard to tune it in a way where we dont do that
olive nest
Personally, my ideal would be something like ``MS -> Exe -> Exe -> OP -> MS``, k...
Totally agree with this I liked execute a lot when this was the loop
smoky kayak
just reading it, it sounds like the 2 set is going to be really frustrating to p...
depends on the proc rate imo, but you get tier so quickly now that I don't think "having 2p but not 4p" will be a serious consideration
regal wharf
that's true
smoky kayak
data says its a 15% proc rate btw, not PPM, but I think that's referring to the Overpower consumption part
so the proc rate might be scripted, or hidden in another spell I haven't found yet
regal wharf
so it seems that with the current gameplay of colossus at least, you should be able to get a decent amount of stacks?
smoky kayak
but yeah if it procs fairly frequently, I think it could be moderately fun to play the slot machine and see if you can get big stacks
sullen plover
I don’t mind the slot machine in a casino raid
regal wharf
yeah I think that's what I liked about DF arms at least in S3/S4 was all the executes you could pull off in a row
it felt so good
smoky kayak
the real question is whether or not it will be worth going out of your way to fish for consumption at a certain number of stacks - like do you start prioritizing Overpower more at 7+ stacks or something? I think probably not and you just let it happen naturally, but idk yet (again it depends on how frequently it procs, and the likelihood of being consumed before reaching 10 and potentially overcapping)
A greater concern will be whether you want to go out of your way to avoid pressing Overpower at a certain number of stacks, either so that it can stack up more first or so that you can try to consume it during CS/etc
lucid thicket
Or if at all
vast surge
Personally, my ideal would be something like ``MS -> Exe -> Exe -> OP -> MS``, k...
This is ideal, just pressing execute ad nauseum sucks but and they could make it baseline that OP generates rage in execute to give it a bit more prio in the execute rotation
Personally think massacre should be baseline for arms warrior but I'm not a designer and don't if that would break the spec
vast surge
Also, I want to like colossus but demolish feels so ass to use, I'm all about the slayer life forever
vast surge
we have to get 2850 io to not have keys deplete
Feel like it's a missed Op by blizzard to not also include getting KSM means keys no longer deplete below 7 and getting KSH means keys no longer deplete below 10
regal wharf
Feel like it's a missed Op by blizzard to not also include getting KSM means key...
EXACTLY
LIKE
WHY ONLY FOR THE TIPPY TOP END
just to prove that im like not a casual to this
vast surge
Cause they want us to feel hatred towards our fellowman when Timmy with no opposable thumbs bricks your weekly 10
vast surge
2850 is all 12s i think
fresh tide
I don't think it's too terrible, just lame
it's a paint by numbers tier set, they had the excuse for season 1 because it was "meant" to be boring but it's not acceptable for season 2
river ridge
Man those class tree changes are high key frustrating.
indigo trout
Also, I want to like colossus but demolish feels so ass to use, I'm all about th...
Well good news, it feels even worse now with upcoming changes 😔
river ridge
Like we're getting survivability that we need, but we're still hamstrung on not picking utility. \
regal wharf
you will have shockwave and you will be happy lowly warrior
fresh tide
most of the utility isn't worth picking anyway 😢
regal wharf
this is karma for your performance in Classic
river ridge
most of the utility isn't worth picking anyway 😢
That's true, but its crazy that I had bettter utility in Shadowlands.
vast surge
Karma for their bad game design?
regal wharf
fresh tide
Shadowlands was worse by a good margin tbh
river ridge
I disagree. We had giga Rallying, Intimidating Shout Baseline, Piercing Howl, Shattering Throw, and a Stun (either Shockwave or Stormbolt).
indigo trout
Can we get a better arms warrior dev? xd
fresh tide
I don't think we had shockwave, piercing howl was nice though
vast surge
Can we get an arms warrior dev?
indigo trout
Based, probably doesn't actually play arms
vast surge
What is arms identity anymore. I don't even know.
indigo trout
The arms dev is a fury warrior player who was out parsed by their guilds arms warrior
regal wharf
can we get a warrior dev
river ridge
I don't think we had shockwave, piercing howl was nice though
Shockwave, is me remembring prot. We did have Stormbolt as a choice between Double Time & Impending Though.
indigo trout
It's really crazy to punish arms for pressing execute man
fresh tide
Primarily generating rage from auto attacks is unique to arms, but the rotation is confused
river ridge
Still, I play my Ret and have a ton of utility and such. Warrior? Idk some stuns I guess.
indigo trout
AoE fear break for when no one interrupts xd
fresh tide
it's such a shit fear too
indigo trout
So useful in high io for sure
fresh tide
I think it might be the worst aoe fear in the game
indigo trout
Oh, I meant the aoe zerk rage haha
To break out of fear
That's how you know it's not very useful 😂
fresh tide
if the game is in a place where it's neccessary utility there are bigger problems
indigo trout
Just one HoF is infinitely more useful for sure
river ridge
if the game is in a place where it's neccessary utility there are bigger problem...
I mean woulda been nice if we coulda pathed to it for the first boss of Mists in M+ this season
Not necessary, but woulda been nice to have
fresh tide
Intimidating shout is my personal pet peeve because it's outclassed by all similar abilities in one way or another. Warlock fear is same target cap but half the cd, paladin blind is same cooldown but no target cap, priest fear has no target cap and also half the cooldown, same with dragons breath. Blinding sleet and rogue blind are uncapped on a 1 minute cd.
The followup node is dead too. Damage before breaking is a useless modifier, and while menace is unique it's primarily bad. The one time I wanted to use it was on fyrakk and it was useless there because it both requires a target and also does not knock back that target
fresh tide
before they standardized interrupt lockouts pummel was tied for the worst there too
vast surge
Does anyone have a theory for why blizzard keeps trying to nerf our bleed damage?
sullen plover
Non arms Warrior dev wife cheated with an arms warrior for sure
You saw what all those blizz ceos/higher ups were doing to that poor woman
vast surge
fresh tide
There's a vocal minority of people that really hate the bleeds
There's a vocal minority of people that really hate execute
There's a vocal minority of people that really hate overpower
we can't agree on anything and neither can blizzard
barren ivy
Intimidating shout is my personal pet peeve because it's outclassed by all simil...
I just wish they would change the damn thing to an AoE knock down for a few seconds or something.
Actually, make another spell with stormbolt as an option but call it headbutt that knocks them on their ass for 3-4 seconds. Flavor if you will.
fresh tide
There are a few times it was inconvenient that it was a fear because of undead mobs, but in general I don't think moving things off of the fear/stun DR is good for the game
vast surge
There's a vocal minority of people that really hate the bleeds
The idea that I yelled so loudly it made someone start bleeding out of their orifices is pretty metal
uncut raven
This patch is the most suck during 10 years
river ridge
There's a vocal minority of people that really hate overpower
Yeah there are people who want Arms to be just pressing Mortal Strike and Colossus Smash with no setup and just deal a bazillion damage.
uncut raven
Im just waiting the Mop classic. Retail has no hope.
barren ivy
Lmao why do monks get to go super saiyan
Wait, doesn’t chi burst or whatever their skill is fire off a blast of energy? Those sneaky bastards.
tacit crystal
@magic canopy can you help me pwease :3
magic canopy
?
tacit crystal
idk what twinkets to play on colo court
quaint otter
Mandate for dmg amp
limpid dirge
am i interpreting this wrong
magic canopy
sac mandate
limpid dirge
or is the 4peice for arms just
dumb?
you lost your buff, so now you can spam the button that makes you lose your buff more
river ridge
No it looks bad. Especially when they were like, "We're gonna move some of the power out of Overpower and back into Mortal Strike!" but than be like, "JK LOL Spam OP more".
floral osprey
But is there a world where we drop OP in execute to keep the big kid buff
dire hinge
OP in execute is free, which takes pressure off our rage generation, it'll likely always be there unless we get some massive rage gen buffs
in various capacities at least.
like, right now you can go on streaks where you don't cast it for a decently long time
floral osprey
Fair I was mulling it and kept coming back to rage starving and not having a real valuable 3rd global in execute (without SD procs)
3rd between MS’s*
balmy kindle
Gonna withhold judgement until final
dire hinge
3rd between MS’s*
🤔 you don't MS on cd in execute
only send it with 2x EP and 2x Lethal Blows (tier)
above is Colossus, but with Slayer it's even more Execute usually
dire hinge
just for transparency, this is the line that controls it:
actions.slayer_execute+=/mortal_strike,if=dot.rend.remains<2|(debuff.executioners_precision.stack=2&buff.lethal_blows.stack=2)
Basically reads:
"For Slayer, while in Execute range"
- Mortal Strike if Rend will fall off in 2 gcds OR
- Mortal Strike if you have 2x EP and 2x LB
floral osprey
Yea, I glanced back at the thing and was just being sloppy in my execute stuff
dire hinge
no worries there!
this is what we're here for, making each other a little better at Arms 🥰
balmy kindle
A trick I do is look at the yellow lights on tact procs, if you get 2 blinks it's 2x lethal blows
naive sage
this is what we're here for, making each other a little better at Arms 🥰
King
Btw it’s going to change in s2 isnt it?
Pressing ms on cd becomes the rule again as far as i understood
dire hinge
A trick I do is look at the yellow lights on tact procs, if you get 2 blinks it'...
i just have MS rigged up to only flash during execute if it has full stacks of both 
otherwise we be executin'
dire hinge
Pressing ms on cd becomes the rule again as far as i understood
most likely, new tier usually means changes to the new rotation
and Lethal Blows will go away (current tier)
balmy kindle
Press MS =
balmy kindle
i just have MS rigged up to only flash during execute if it has full stacks of b...
Is that a WA setup
dire hinge
yeee
balmy kindle
Colo arms is the way 
floral osprey
does their logic for execute no longer giving colossal might stacks actually make sense to anyone else?
my flabbers are gasted and i cant piece together the dev note
pearl cypress
arms new meta? balance was getting pi
teal fossil
does their logic for execute no longer giving colossal might stacks actually mak...
It mainly stops the execute spam rotation that’s been going around
But it honestly just creates another problem
Now you don’t feel good about pressing execute in execute
Also makes sudden death worse
floral osprey
so my confusion stems from the fact that the dev note says execute spam is disincentivizing pressing MS, which I dont think it does, they both give a CM stack and with proper buffs MS is better than execute
I could be wrong, I definitely haven't done math to back it.
teal fossil
Currently you only ms with 2 stacks of ep and 2 stacks of 4p
So you ms about once every 6-8 gcds
floral osprey
I guess i mean thats not a symptom of colossus wanting to press execute
teal fossil
Well with it removed you’ll def press ms on cd again
floral osprey
rather arms in general wants to spam execute
thick kelp
if they wanted us to stop pressing execute they need to get rid of jugg
removal of lb is already enough to make us press ms on cd
teal fossil
Is it
floral osprey
ahhhhhhh it clicked what theyre trying to do, I just dont like it now rather than not understanding
thick kelp
the change to execute and colossal might will mean they need to make demolish hit harder cuz we r gonna be losing like 2 casts of it per fight
floral osprey
the change to execute and colossal might will mean they need to make demolish hi...
this was my big concern
teal fossil
You only press ms for rend
naive sage
Currently you only ms with 2 stacks of ep and 2 stacks of 4p
This in execute right?
teal fossil
Yeah
thick kelp
also the mp nerf buffed ms baseline
teal fossil
Yeah that’s what’s gonna shift the scale
thick kelp
but i cope that we have nore changes coming since they said that this is not all
thick kelp
not really
baseline big ms means colossus ms buffs affect it more
wouldnt be suprised if we end up with ms being over 35% of our damage breakdown in st
teal fossil
well yeah
You have less demolish
Disincentive to press execute as much
Ofc ms is gonna go up
I think without more changes it’s probably dps neutral
Just need touching up
thick kelp
need to read more myself to have a clearer picture
wokeup and went to gym so no time to check on changes indepth
teal fossil
Demolish could just do 5-10% more damage to people under 35
to compensate
And ye I need to bedge too
candid pecan
I mean....
deft bluff
Im sad no execute spam anymore
dim basalt
What the fuck is this tier set
balmy kindle
Rngseus set
chrome frost
It seems really awful for all warriors in next season
dim basalt
Fury reads okay-ish
balmy kindle
Hmm can't say much yet, I think talent tree change is big
10% stam
Also big juice on MS and cleave
thick kelp
:xdd
balmy kindle
Remaining optimistic
dim basalt
I guess we either dont take one point for haste or crit for the other roar capstone
Still cursed
thick kelp
thick kelp
I guess we either dont take one point for haste or crit for the other roar capst...
you will drop cruel strikes points most certainly to grab any more of the capstones
balmy kindle
Cursed but I think it's better than now
dim basalt
Slightly
runic tundra
Ah yes
minor gust
spear roar gaming
thick kelp
But they did very openly say that this is only the first round of changes so I am expecting them to iterate on this more hopefully
runic tundra
TC and Shockwave gating survivability
minor gust
season of the colossus
runic tundra
No problems
thick kelp
Blord colossus eating good with new tier
minor gust
mhmm
thick kelp
and nerfs to execute
balmy kindle
You can, just swap points around
minor gust
you can take uproar xd
thick kelp
wtf? can’t we take the Uproar now？
sure you can just drop points from cruel strikes
thick kelp
Already did that with the rage node from rally
balmy kindle
Overwhelm rage being 1 p is big