do you die 1 shot from missing 1 bolt in cot?
#arms
silk spade
quasi torrent
I know a good chunk casual 2h a week gamers that are loads better than HArDCoRe top500 WR gamers
balmy kindle
do you die 1 shot from missing 1 bolt in cot?
healers probably ? not us for sure
heh myth trax weapon
balmy kindle
usually its like 2+ casts gets off, lil bro doesnt use his DR and dies
silk spade
nobody dies from 1 bolt shot
yeah idk why he is saying 10s are tuned hard
latent moss
nobody dies from 1 bolt shot
shadowlands prot warrior died from 1 bolt shot
quasi torrent
usually its like 2+ casts gets off, lil bro doesnt use his DR and dies
press defensive 2024
silk spade
weirdge
olive nest
We were doing 10s at like 605 ilvl or whatever
silk spade
We were doing 10s at like 605 ilvl or whatever
yeah lol
olive nest
It’s not ment to be insanely difficult
silk spade
surely casuals can do it at 635
quasi torrent
We were doing 10s at like 605 ilvl or whatever
Elitist!!!
hazy flower
to be 635
balmy kindle
surely casuals can do it at 635
i dont think people reach those levels lol
quasi torrent
i was rank 1 warrior day3!!!!
silk spade
game is playable!!
quasi torrent
game is playable!!
sieben
olive nest
i was rank 1 warrior day3!!!!
Elitist!!!
quasi torrent
just constructed alternatively
olive nest
quasi torrent
(3 mdi players in farm group)
silk spade
you have to have done them
i think you know what i meant
hazy flower
ye
silk spade
quasi torrent
if u only did 8s and used all crests on crafting
and used 4pc hc track tier
what ilvl would u be now
633?
hazy flower
like around that
latent moss
blue man eating good
colossus arms meta 2nd season
quasi torrent
kinda assumes 626 trinks
latent moss
i refuse to believe
olive nest
How many sparks are we up to now?
latent moss
10s arent bruteforceable
quasi torrent
How many sparks are we up to now?
many
latent moss
at 625
olive nest
People could craft at least 10 636s by now I’d assume
thick kelp
10s were bruteforceable at 600
quasi torrent
10s arent bruteforceable
I think u underestimate how garbage players are
balmy kindle
some players are bad 
quasi torrent
10s were bruteforceable at 600
ehhh that's not bruteforce
actually needed to use some IQ
silk spade
How many sparks are we up to now?
latent moss
yeah i prob do idk i dont interact with them
quasi torrent
(we pressed W nothing fancy timed all 10s by Friday week 1)
thick kelp
(we pressed W nothing fancy timed all 10s by Friday week 1)
same
olive nest
Ahh so assuming you only craft a single 2h weapon you have a lot of ilvl from crafted gear never touching mythic raid
quasi torrent
but i was also 620 by then i think
olive nest
And only doing 8s
quasi torrent
got it warband
i got that a while ago and sent it to my hunter
hazy flower
I got it like week 2 and sent it to my warrior
languid bane
Is arms higher dps then fury ?
hazy flower
everyone bitching about this ring in my guild meanwhile
balmy kindle
Mythic orators or M weapon
shadow ibex
I eclipsed heroic one and since then hated it
Only seen a few drop. One went as ilvl upgrade of same item to someone
Pull crit mast siege ring from vault this week. Gotta socket it for colossus gamba
icy mulch
What in the flying hell is this?
balmy kindle
wtf that rng
silk spade
I eclipsed heroic one and since then hated it
what does this mean
shadow ibex
Was no longer upgrade
reef glade
What in the flying hell is this?
2 mid items and one cool neck
reef glade
same
eager sigil
i only got rash neck 
quasi torrent
need to neck meself ye
reef glade
need to neck meself ye
silk spade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956065034700726334/1272362174739906672/ezgif-6-9bd2089f65.gif
olive nest
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956065034700726334/1272362174739906672/ezgif-6-9bd2089f65.gif
quasi torrent
https://tenor.com/view/hsr-honkai-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-herta-gif-310109048...
meow
reef glade
kurukuru
balmy kindle
nice double duskthreads and 639 weap > orators
peak jacinth
Got a Mythic Ring in my Vault, Sim (obviously) tells me it's better than my current Hc Ring ... but tells me NOT to enchant it. wtf?
Is this because we only gain Crit/Haste/ Mastery at full-percentage break points? So 4.1 = 4.4 = 4.9 ... until you get to 5, it doesn't matter?
elfin violet
nah it doesnt tell u that probably some mistake on the input, just enchant it
btw look at this shit
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3wX5iAgcQHAMNw2jACLfn3
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k7ERgBcBEdx682A8jU9DJm
the build at a loss is the standard col build with EB
boreal quartz
Got a Mythic Ring in my Vault, Sim (obviously) tells me it's better than my curr...
Did u select enchanrs
livid cloak
Yes using execute talents will give you a single target increase
elfin violet
i mean yeah but the point of this is the miniscule aoe loss
livid cloak
Don't use dungeon slice, do a 5t and a 10t
I'm guessing it'll be a massive difference
livid cloak
Most people would rather run execute talents so it doesn't feel like shit, but they aren't good in keys
peak jacinth
Did u select enchanrs
Sorry- obvs mistake. I had selected all the enchant options... but double-clicked ... so I DE-selected them. 😛 mb ty! 🙂
livid cloak
Jugg sudden death thunderclap was much fun
teal fossil
It was so well designed too
The only minor complaint would be that it would make rend upkeep trivial but who cares
balmy kindle
Did u select enchanrs
Great thanks to you i am spending 20k to do recrafts to fit 639 weapon with double weave
balmy kindle
why not SD makes execute hit in aoe 
( so we actually use it )
fresh spire
Hmmmm
Previous expansion tbh
When times was simpler but the spec had an actual structure
I'd love to see how colossus would preform if sweep was always up and ms hit 3 targets
tacit crystal
mr fish
fresh spire
Kill cleave. Embrace mortal striking
tacit crystal
i need help
do i play your build until we start seeing last phase
then go jugg
and gamba on jug
fresh spire
In keys? Or raid?
balmy kindle
I'd love to see how colossus would preform if sweep was always up and ms hit 3 t...
I will take anything to not press Thunder clap and sks
tacit crystal
In keys? Or raid?
courtussy
fresh spire
I will take anything to not press Thunder clap and sks
I want sudden death to have some additional game changing aspects sorta like avatar has( well avatar used to have)
With clap coming back to maintain rend.
For court. I'd expect jug is the play
shy dove
How does one get a 623-639 mythic Ara-Kara? And not a 616-626 one
fresh spire
Next kill I'll probs drop battlelord as I'll have more crit chance for demolish resets
But likely play eb
shadow ibex
Blizz: talent trees a place to bring back cool and effective legendary and tier sets
fresh spire
Eb feels good
shadow ibex
Also blizz: here's fatality
tacit crystal
i was alos thinking
fresh spire
Fatality took a fatality
tacit crystal
just playing high cirt and vers
balmy kindle
fatality
tacit crystal
bc i dont have good haste rings
fresh spire
Worst part is if fatality scaled off mastery battlelord would be playable with it vs jug
Numbers are getting much closer
fresh spire
Imagine we had old deep wounds back
shadow ibex
How is he mitigating stacks of a debuff how is his armor protecting him from a metaphorical wound
shadow ibex
Sorry can't do that. Your class fantasy is bleeds but these are bleeds you maintain damn near passively isn't that cool
fresh spire
Wishlist. Ep 1 stack. Sd bleed. Battlelord and eb proc rates buffed
I just want to press sd on cd and ms fucks after it
balmy kindle
you would think getting hit by a big axe / sword will make one bleed harder
balmy kindle
I just want to press sd on cd and ms fucks after it
yes
fresh spire
Nah only when it's in the skull
shadow ibex
It's absolutely baffling SD clap didn't make it past s3
fresh spire
I wouldnt be supprised if it was purely because of the tier votes
shadow ibex
Like that's damn near as damning as warbringer typo twice
fresh spire
There is a big spot for it to fit in right now
shadow ibex
In how in touch they are
fresh spire
Which would aid rend on aoe and st
Nothings worse. Then when I hit Cs. See rend got 6 seconds left. Sks is ready
2 shit ass gcds used in cds
shadow ibex
balmy kindle
2 shit ass gcds used in cds
pressing anything outside of MS OP exe in cds feels horrible
shadow ibex
Every 45 second line up sks and tr mega synergy
What's that? It feels as impactful as a wet pillow
fresh spire
Make sks apply rend :sus:
fresh spire
I miss explode sks
shadow ibex
It's so dumn
fresh spire
Shit was great. Hit button. Delete prio target
shadow ibex
This button feels like ass but use it anyway cuz technically a throughput increase
Story of warrior class tree tbh
shadow ibex
Sure just replace arterial too
fresh spire
Im supprised arterial exists and they didn't make a ms node
shadow ibex
give colossus another Ms buff who cares fuck it
fresh spire
One for cleave one for ms
tacit crystal
that would own
shadow ibex
I think it's criminal that demo stacks do nothing to ms
shadow ibex
Fuck that
balmy kindle
arms should have skills that are more based on our weapons
fresh spire
Pressing demolish when u crit feel goodman
balmy kindle
not thunder clapping and shit
fresh spire
Clap saved rend tbh
shadow ibex
I'll never forget that slide at the shadow lands announcement
fresh spire
If clap never rended it would be giga aids
shadow ibex
The warrior slide was weapon choice mattering and stuff
And it was never mentioned ever again
balmy kindle
just make cleave rend or bake rend damage into deep wounds
fresh spire
Don't think blizzard will ever go back to like specialisations of weapons
If it was like it was back then one just dominated always
shadow ibex
I don't think they have to if it was more like barb ish and you just pulled out a mace to do X
fresh spire
3 weapon slots. Must gear all
balmy kindle
not saying it should be specializations but arms should be based on hitting stuff with a weapon
not magic and shit
fresh spire
shadow ibex
Not actually carrying a 639 one but just materializing it
Because you're a master of arms or whatever our class fantasy is
balmy kindle
for a skill named deep wounds its not deep at all
shadow ibex
We are never getting away from boring bleeds
Glorified pvp spec needs someway to keep pressure while being kited
fresh spire
Bleeds aren't really an issue if they are very passive
But when it's like sks it's intrusive and not fun to most
shadow ibex
Never gonna have impactful 3min cds because can't have warrior killing someone insta with good uptime in pvp
fresh spire
How about we meet you half way
We kill anger management
And make avatar good again
shadow ibex
It's been 90 sec dmg buff forever
empty sluice
But when it's like sks it's intrusive and not fun to most
Make sks passive, bake it to colossus smash usage
fresh spire
Make sks passive, bake it to colossus smash usage
This is something I wrote and suggested forward
Baked into sudden death but only lasts like 4 seconds
fresh spire
Nah
shadow ibex
They MUST BE TWO DISTINCT BUTTONS THAT DO THE SAME THING
balmy kindle
for the love of god pls remove TC and rend
empty sluice
I miss df s3 set
fresh spire
We all do
bronze elbow
honestly that suggestion of making tc do rend damage seems crazy obvious
fresh spire
I did write down I wanted s3 back
silk spade
Make tc hit rend damage on main target
based
fresh spire
Even without the damage amp on tc
shadow ibex
If rend and tclap were merged the old gods will awaken. Blizzard is protecting us all
fresh spire
Give us that and nerf the fuck out of bloodletting finally
Mandatory point always fml
bronze elbow
i just want to not press slam
silk spade
delete jugg
fresh spire
You will always press slam im sorry
empty sluice
i just want to not press slam
Good old fob
shadow ibex
I feel like we could get jug gone
bronze elbow
i dont press heroic strike anymore maybe i won't slam one day
shadow ibex
If we explained holding casts for jug stack extension, we could def get jug removed @fresh spire
Imo
empty sluice
Jugg would be fine If it didnt drop during combat
fresh spire
I mean the problem is that the duration is so low
fresh spire
If it held stacks in combat and you ramped it from 100 to 35 it would own
But it drops like 95% of times in pull
silk spade
the rng aspect of slayer + jugg is fucking unbearable
shadow ibex
What's % difference in holding to get most stacks
fresh spire
Fury less so because sd sucks ass and jugg lasts longer in fury
bronze elbow
slayer in general is unbearable
shadow ibex
Vs sending on reaction
If we explained % difference between min max stacks and sending on reaction I bet could get it changed @fresh spire
bronze elbow
demolish is way too satisfying as a button to justify slayer existing now
fresh spire
Apl isn't maximised for 100% cheese it's set to 3 seconds as its a realistic window to gamers
But it was like 11 stacks average
When set to 1 gcd
silk spade
Vs sending on reaction
you mean like
silk spade
insta pressing sd vs holding it to game stacks or
fresh spire
Bloodletting shouldn't be so strong still
balmy kindle
the rng aspect of slayer + jugg is fucking unbearable
what you dont like your damage being tied to procs 
fresh spire
Bleed duration. Bleed crit. Ms applying rend shits stackkkkked
shadow ibex
OR JUST GIVE FRONTAL MS
fresh spire
Meanwhile other node be like
bronze elbow
if they're gonna make keep us a bleed build obsessed with bleeding can cleave generate deep wounds pls
empty sluice
Meanwhile dance of death xdd
silk spade
if they're gonna make keep us a bleed build obsessed with bleeding can cleave ge...
it literally does
shadow ibex
I wanna know who at blizz thinks I want to spend a node in the bottom of the tree to make my 90 sec cool down better only when it kills things
bronze elbow
oh i might be dumb
shadow ibex
Like I need that person to sit down and explain it
fresh spire
Some boss fights it could work
empty sluice
Also let Wb apply rend pls 👀
fresh spire
Just the gain from it isn't ever worth
silk spade
I wanna know who at blizz thinks I want to spend a node in the bottom of the tre...
warrior and absolute dog shit capstones :classic:
shadow ibex
It's like they have no idea what a talent point is
latent moss
I wanna know who at blizz thinks I want to spend a node in the bottom of the tre...
i wanna know who at blizz thinks i want to spend a talent point for a 5% aura buff
shadow ibex
Yea let me just spend this finite resource on a buff to my 90 sec cd only when it scores a kill
Like who
Let me just send it when things are already about to die
Brilliant
Bottom of the tree btw
fresh spire
Think dfd is more like rashnan adds situation
shadow ibex
Yes but it's far too low to justify even that
shadow ibex
It needs to be where like bloodsurge is
silk spade
probably some rper leveling bs reasoning behind dod
fresh spire
Like scoring a kill makes it tick 2 more times stacking 3 times.
Now imagine doing that during execute scoring kills getting mega rage
shadow ibex
A real dance of death capstone
Would let me cast during BS
Just saying
That's a real dance of death
The warrior using execute and MS and whatever while spinning
That's a dance of death
shadow ibex
Ravager 👏 need 👏 to 👏 cast 👏 what 👏 the 👏 warrior 👏 casts 👏
bronze elbow
inb4 ravager just spams thunderclap
fresh spire
shadow ibex
Ravager hero spec that let's ep stacks 4 times, still only consume 2 at a time and ravager now copies your buttons
So me and my son can x2 EP MS you
shadow ibex
That was DF
empty sluice
Diablo have some cool stuff for barb, they could take some inspiration from it
shadow ibex
Unhinged barbarian more of a master of arms than this bleed spec
slim cypress
yo arms is actually stupid fun in keys
i feel like i always have dam with SS warbreaker and demolish
balmy kindle
until its boss time
rancid solstice
Battlelord and EB help bosses feel less bad
shadow ibex
my beef is ST feels awful even after taking all ST incs except for crit thinking and jugg but more a criticism on the fact that u can take p much all the dmg incs you want as warrior since so many talents are shit they arent real options
extend cout jail = proc ring or socket for myth belt sitting in bags 
balmy kindle
3 myth slots and complaining
shadow ibex
thats 1 heroic slot and 2 normal cuz we extendo clipped
quaint otter
Ravager hero spec that let's ep stacks 4 times, still only consume 2 at a time a...
U invented Sef
shadow ibex
U invented Sef
only sef i know is sif the great wolf
eager sigil
hey guys, is there a macro for Arms CDs?
cds?
chrome comet
cooldowns
eager sigil
you press avatar
can macro it with your trinket if you want
otherwise theres no swifty oneshot macro
chrome comet
So there is no macro like fury that bursts like crazy?
serene hollow
no, arms does not have the immediate burst that fury does, at least not to that level
if you have a 10 stack demolish ready with avatar, roar, and ravager it's still good burst, but it's not a 2 button spin to win
chrome comet
Can someone help me out with the rotation? Basically its Charge-> Avatar+Trinket-> C.SMash.-> bladestorm as an opener and then OP+OP, Mortal Strike and excecute with procs?
silk spade
U invented Sef
more like dancing rune weapon
fathom shoal
You forgot sks
chrome comet
Ah yes im missing rend+dragon roar and sks
when should i press sks?
as soon as i put the dots up?
serene hollow
the opener guides press sks after bladestorm
shadow ibex
After BS
terse osprey
what is Sks? lol
serene hollow
sun king's salvation skullsplitter
terse osprey
Oh ok
steep osprey
Skullsplitter
chrome comet
and afterwards should i only press it after bladestorm?
serene hollow
if you play the reck talent below avatar instead of 45 second roar I think you can get away with pressing it immediately before avatar + trinket + bladestorm
at least that's what I like to tell myself
that way you get stronger bleeds with the 6 seconds of crit
shadow ibex
dang, been doing it wrong lol
It's not gonna make or break any parse or anything
Like #1 colossus log on court doesn't sks until 20 seconds in but with 21 sec cd just means they lost a cast of it
shadow ibex
its deadcember
quartz cedar
Man, my vault sucked! To think of all the pain I went through during those ten m10s.
olive nest
Guy thinks it’s shadowlands again
quartz cedar
Thanks for the vers ring and capes, vers gods.
Oh I'm sorry, you guys are awesome. Forgive me.
olive nest
They need to make it so any dungeon I complete after 8 is banked for the next weeks tally
Then I can do 100 dungeons week 1 and afk for two months
chrome kernel
mists is fun
quartz cedar
It is if people can handle the matching game
tacit crystal
wa
finite mantle
getting up and taking a showers easy but 70% of the player base struggles at that
tacit crystal
quasi torrent
getting up and taking a showers easy but 70% of the player base struggles at tha...
getting up to take a shower is sometimes hard
but leaving the shower
even harder man
chrome bramble
hey folks, new to the raiding scene joined the xpack late. Looking on wowhead at the St raid build, multi and cleave. should i just follow these for the most part ?they are a little old 10.5 just wondering
shadow ibex
playing colossus spear now im tanking trees in mists
tacit crystal
hey folks, new to the raiding scene joined the xpack late. Looking on wowhead at...
it is correct
naive sage
playing colossus spear now im tanking trees in mists
Drop the build maybe
shadow ibex
swap TR with spear
livid cloak
Is the spear fun?
shadow ibex
it has no business being a 90 sec vs 45 roar
considering uproar does 18 things
thunderous i mean
livid cloak
Sure, makes sense
shadow ibex
it hits for less than a MS
and its 90 seconds
good button
thats with the node to inc dmg
🙂
fresh spire
getting up to take a shower is sometimes hard
but leaving the shower
Showering before or after bed is real talk
quasi torrent
Showering before or after bed is real talk
depends
when i go out that day its after bed
when i dont its before or randomly during the day
👍
shadow ibex
how the fuck does final boss in mists heal
is that a mechanic wth
what just happened in this key
tacit crystal
affix
shadow ibex
ok shaman issue
gaunt owl
its always a skill issue
finite mantle
even harder man
too real gamer
grizzled estuary
hey guys, any good resource to recommend for m+ rotatio/priority list please?
silk spade
press cleave
real
grizzled estuary
thanks
boreal quartz
no sd on slayer cringus
empty sluice
no sd on slayer cringus
Hes right tho, just do it
silk spade
i'm a big BL hater
thick kelp
got me heatin
shadow ibex
protoss face ass set
terse osprey
Anyone suggest any good arms macros where I can combine some abilities and have an easier time doing dmg and my rotation?
boreal quartz
Anyone suggest any good arms macros where I can combine some abilities and have ...
you can replace rend fully with tc thats it
chrome kernel
getting up and taking a showers easy but 70% of the player base struggles at tha...
based
shadow ibex
Can macro leap to @cursor
And ravager to @player
That's about it for helpful macro stuff
Can't really combine CDs since AM exists and just not great idea anyway
terse osprey
you can replace rend fully with tc thats it
Cool will do that 🙂
naive sage
https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-plain-doll-doll-hunter-souls-gif-24351576
BLOODBORNE MENTIONED
The voices are telling me horrible things
boreal quartz
bad
hexed kettle
Arms brother I need advice. Myth track skarmorak shard or keep using treacherous transmitter 626? Transmitter sims higher but I keep hating the mini game mechanic
eager sigil
Arms brother I need advice. Myth track skarmorak shard or keep using treacherous...
play shard then
its worse but who cares
chrome kernel
Arms brother I need advice. Myth track skarmorak shard or keep using treacherous...
try jumping 3 times or running around with it being ranged
naive sage
But critted 40m cleave at dummies
hexed kettle
On rash mythic i can’t even reach it sometimes due to stuff on floor
naive sage
The only reason I see to pick spear is for the lulz when you hit a big cleave crit
terse osprey
you can replace rend fully with tc thats it
Any other suggestions?
terse osprey
not rlly
Just checking cuz im not super great when it comes to keybinding or macros so lol
also im a bit casual
boreal quartz
Just checking cuz im not super great when it comes to keybinding or macros so lo...
i mean if u just use 12345qertxcfgv youll manage
ideally toss in some shift/altmods
terse osprey
i mean if u just use 12345qertxcfgv youll manage
I'll try that
terse osprey
i mean if u just use 12345qertxcfgv youll manage
I kinda do a lil CTRL shift 123qwer etc
terse osprey
i have ctrl2 for rally for example
nice 😄
boreal quartz
just whatever is comfy tbh
hexed kettle
Colossus according to Murlock io and archon
manic river
Colossus is up in Mythics
boreal quartz
Do ppl do slayer or Colossus more in dungeons?
colo
regal wharf
first key of the week bricked
tank died on E.D.N.A, wiped, then healer died and then they went offline
down to a 9
at least make it so the first key of the week cant brick or something man
this is intolerable
regal wharf
the thing is
its easier to host ur own keys than join
so if yours goes down from a 10 to a 9, that's much less likely for people to join
sick gazelle
you will still get people to join a 9
olive nest
regal wharf
6 mins to final boss n pulls
eternal plinth
pug moment
finite mantle
make it so every raid wipe makes you go back 1 boss
steep osprey
make it so every raid wipe makes you go back 1 boss
That’s evil
finite mantle
That’s evil
it’ll get people to stop saying depleted keys is good
back to silken for u mister p1 queen progger
regal wharf
it’ll get people to stop saying depleted keys is good
do people actually think that
finite mantle
no clue
regal wharf
tank sucked dogwater
for the 8 siege that he just left
down to a 7
didnt even make it to the first boss
like before those two big packs before the first boss
jesus christ man
livid cloak
Man you need a big brother or something to help you out
woven wasp
didnt know mage got a support spec
regal wharf
thats what im sayin
tacit crystal
dr greg
chrome kernel
and my twin's a COD guy
cod is fun
chrome kernel
wtf was mage doing
judging by their name, maybe hittin the bong a little too hard
regal wharf
i think im just gonna stop for now
regal wharf
i just cant even muster up the energy to keep the party up 
shadow ibex
are timewalking gear vendors around or nah
chrome kernel
fuck i want to just buy this shaman gear
buy a heroic raid run
fathom shoal
P cheap nowadays. Prob like 200-250k
loud wadi
when blizzard will fix the SS animation?
zenith dagger
when will they fix my character doing the slam animation when i hit cleave
shadow ibex
that sfob
visual fern
If anyone was wondering
You can not parry
Ulgrax devour
Ty for come ted talk
@rough needle big info for you
rough needle
visual fern
tepid wasp
Arms or fury for raid?
wild kernel
Arms for everything
visual fern
Fury generally easier to have better impact in this raid
wild kernel
Does arms have a ranged equivalent? Destro lock maybe?
tacit crystal
I may pay for one on my fresh 80 alt
ASK ZHAI
quaint otter
Does arms have a ranged equivalent? Destro lock maybe?
mm hunter?
balmy kindle
Does arms have a ranged equivalent? Destro lock maybe?
Boomkin or MM hunter is the closest
fossil thistle
shy dove
Could use some DPS for Mythic Raiding if anyone wants in 625+ilvl and 2/8M exp required
wanton birch
What flask do you guys prefer for arms?
misty bridge
Alchemical
naive sage
Actually all flasks are alchemical 🤓☝️
steep osprey
tender ermine
Would anyone have suggestions of how I could change up my talents for current arms? This would be for slayer
astral yarrow
play colossus
astral yarrow
dreadnaught is kinda bait and SKS is an atrocity
tender ermine
So swap for strength of arms?
tender ermine
So dropping Sks and picking up one of those two?
or finding another point to swap as well?
astral yarrow
i dont remember what you have to drop for battlelord, but yeah ditch sks in general
tender ermine
is there anywhere I can find the build?
I find with dps the builds change so much that wowhead and icyveins tend to lag behind a lot
like for example wowhead suggests sks
and dreadnought
astral yarrow
builds change a little, but nothing thats gonna make or break your dps. Usually its at the level of 1 or 2 points in bloodborne for example. Not at pc, so @thick kelp or @fresh spire might have it on hand
maybe even grams
@visual fern
tender ermine
Greatly appreciate the help! I'll give this a go and see how it fairs
tender ermine
Thank you!
balmy kindle
What flask do you guys prefer for arms?
Alc chaos
spring vessel
do you guys prefer slayer or colossus for m+ ?
devout pewter
balmy kindle
Comparatively it's pretty poorly though ( fury Thane exists)
But not being capped to 5Ts awesome
dim basalt
Really depends what you compare it to
Arms definitely can do really solid dps
I'd say it's very close to SV hunter
balmy kindle
Cleave and demolish in big packs
nimble yoke
Comparatively it's pretty poorly though ( fury Thane exists)
But not being cap...
so how do we compare to enhance shaman
balmy kindle
floral sierra
oak flame
hello all i have a quick question for arms rotation pre execute phase. I read in wowhead that execute should be used only if we have 3 stack of marked for execution or 2 stack of sudden death. So if i don't meet any of these 2 conditions i should use slam as filler with MS and Op not avaible ?
oak flame
my question is if i really should use slam and wait for 3 stack of marked execution or 2 stack of sudden death
or if in that case i can use execute
wintry scroll
do u guys still run opportunist for pure st or is the MS one higher prio now
thick kelp
sim it
wintry scroll
what abt execute prio is it still Ms to refresh rend and MS lowest prio unless you have all buffs up with tier and EP
thick kelp
yeah
wintry scroll
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4CXaBcXKs44CmCb5P2TFqe
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6x2Y9bgfsLmSW9nJ1FzhZW
well apparently the MS build sims higher for me
or I'm I simming wrong
ok i get it now it's the bladestorm talent that is shit
balmy kindle
yeah its not taken anymore
wintry scroll
is anyone using any big reminder for oppurtunist
i think i need one the shining light isn't helping me enough
tacit crystal
i just notice when my op resets after pressing
wintry scroll
it feels weird restraining myslef from plessing MS
i got way too used to MS spam in df
tacit crystal
too bad ms is worthless
astral yarrow
put a sound on it
misty yew
what build is most used in M+
astral talon
colossus
tacit crystal
there are like 5 builds man
balmy kindle
remove all execute talents
dont like it but removing exe feels good on colo
cinder dove
you basically fuel colossus smash with ms spam
hushed pine
balmy kindle
MAGA - Make Arms Great Again
faint sparrow
Build without skullsplitter is better?
tacit crystal
you can play sks for more prio
wintry scroll
Build without skullsplitter is better?
no one likes playing it in m+ i guess
when i check raider io literally no one is running it
rare kite
If they just reverted sks to wjat it used to be
which version? the full bleed consume was ass as well. the just do damage version was good tho, no bleed interaction
slow saddle
Bleed consume
Went brrrr
Was great at bursting shit down
And fixable but lettin ms applu buff befpre dmg donr
rare kite
nahh, it was satisfying in a way sure. but also it was completely ass that it consumed deep wounds, oh now your next ms does no damage and outside of execute you had to immideately press tc/rend
solemn finch
Hey hey does anyone got the weakauro the Critcake uses for his dps on screen? deleted that by mistake lol
rare kite
And fixable but lettin ms applu buff befpre dmg donr
yeah that would work
even more fixable by just removing deep wounds from the game
manic river
So when going with Queen's Mandate we just throw it on CD?
slow saddle
Dw is cool if sks is cooø
rare kite
i don't like deep wounds applying a debuff
shadow ibex
Old SkS needing 2 globals to put my stuff back up was dumb
rare kite
stepping on colossus smash toes
shadow ibex
Also had to have a fresh rend install
So actually eating 3
SkS just cursed button. The use case in exe also weird for slayer since rage doesn't budge
slow saddle
Old SkS needing 2 globals to put my stuff back up was dumb
But in a key u could burst ann add or something similar was great
naive sage
Old SkS needing 2 globals to put my stuff back up was dumb
It deleted totem in BH though it was nice
rare kite
But in a key u could burst ann add or something similar was great
if they removed jugg and actually made execute hit hard we could do that anyway
shadow ibex
One totem isnt enough for me to get excited for really
slow saddle
It had a spot imho change was good idea value is just shit
slow saddle
if they removed jugg and actually made execute hit hard we could do that anyway
Well jugg needs to go same place as tom
Graveyard
rare kite
true
naive sage
We had a nice prio dmg role and old sks was helping with it a lot imo
shadow ibex
Making you need a fresh cast before and after is never gonna be a good idea
We still have prio DMG since you gonna be MSing main target if that's what we care about now
But idk how to take that when everyone is playing colossus and embracing bad st
naive sage
But idk how to take that when everyone is playing colossus and embracing bad st
Ye I was talking more about df, right now I don’t know if it would be a good tool to have
shadow ibex
Iirc it's technically an aoe inc rn
Just feels ass to use
But you probably give up EB and that's aoe value
shadow ibex
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1306014550822490182/h...
is colossus good st now or smth?
some unannounced change
sacred zodiac
i havent touched arms in weeks nor in m+
shadow ibex
k
sacred zodiac
i posted a funny gif to own you
shadow ibex
it got the contrarian buff
slow saddle
I mean its not that bad in st
shadow ibex
I mean its not that bad in st
I meant with aoe build since we talking about prio
slow saddle
I meant with aoe build since we talking about prio
I play with soa
Seems prip enough
shadow ibex
I think most do
slow saddle
And jo demo big baddie
shadow ibex
I think soa is standard
slow saddle
And eb + battlelord
Plays better than ep
And tbh havent fpund at dmg that much worse without ep
St
rare kite
ofc you haven't, can't afford to press execute enough without critical thinking(very garbage talent btw, pls remove)
rare kite
well then it isn't a talent. it being that far down the tree makes it a garbage talent(design wise)
shadow ibex
2/2 hero tree
rare kite
actually unbelieveable that a talent that makes execute a pressable button is that far down
and a 2 pointer as well
shadow ibex
Just didn't think stuff thru. Nerfed rage income big with cs reck
Knee jerk reaction and that's where we feel it most
rare kite
this is why i generally stay away from arms chat, i'm getting agitated just typing. @daring heron pls help me
shadow ibex
Press exe with no CT and it's big bad after pressing it with CT full time for 2.5 years
dim basalt
Juggernaut is the biggest feelsbadman for me
dim basalt
With lower values maybe
shadow ibex
Already mega low as arms
dim basalt
But Id rather have it have less stacks with more value
dim basalt
45% in total is big but it takes too long to get there
And dropping 10 stacks midcombat outside of execute feels horrible
Fuck SD also
Thats just such an evil combination man
rare kite
Fuck SD also <:keks:936231610850897992>
i really like sd on its own. with jugg yeah it's not nice
rare kite
exactly, which it used to do at several points in WoW's history
rare kite
i'd rather they just buff execute and remove jugg
daring heron
this is why i generally stay away from arms chat, i'm getting agitated just typi...
this is self harm
rare kite
this is self harm
yeah you're right, i will exit this godforsaken place
dim basalt
Or make something random extend it then idc
Slam?
shadow ibex
Rather just let exe replace slam and let me cast above % for 40 rage always or something expensive
dim basalt
So arms becomes unplayable without skyfury?
dim basalt
Fair
quaint otter
SD on its own without jugg would be fine if execute did any damage
Season3 set back ...
teal fossil
So arms becomes unplayable without skyfury? <:deadge:900279927138578432>
Unplayable is a strong word
It’s only really bad in execute
But outside of executecit dont matter
dim basalt
It’s only really bad in execute
And execute is a super strong phase
livid cloak
In keys? Not really
dim basalt
Thats true ig
livid cloak
In raid yeah, but if you're in raid without skyfury you have bigger issues
balmy kindle
Sudden death needs changes for sure though, its so unreliable
dim basalt
Some rng in a kit isnt necessarily bad
balmy kindle
well until it cucks your parses
dim basalt
Isnt that juggs fault tho
balmy kindle
its not so bad on slayer tbf, but colo ST is pretty much reliant on SD procs
on farm mode now so i am not gonna play slayer lol
shadow ibex
Just make jug like signet or anvil
fresh spire
Jug should ramp over the fight. Not in last min of fight
eager sigil
just get lucky and maintain it all fight
dim basalt
Yesterday during a Princess pull we got to 38% and I had all jugg stacks until then
But we did not make it 
And of course I died on kill pull because I panicked with the fucking daggers
shadow ibex
I'm on web duty on court so I rather be back on princess ngl
regal wharf
Fun task - look at max crits in cleave demo and ms
7 million crit dmg
boreal quartz
7 million crit dmg
On cleave or what?
I think my highscores respectively are 8.9 mil ms 12 mil cleave 16 mil demo
But 2 of those are mists first boss
sacred zodiac
I think my highscores respectively are 8.9 mil ms 12 mil cleave 16 mil demo
i hit a 20 mil one
boreal quartz
i hit a 20 mil one
Yes but i am dogshit and do not own myth transmitter
regal wharf
On cleave or what?
demolish
boreal quartz
i got rash cloak
I got 2 Heroin dungeon items
steep osprey
steep osprey
I got 2 Heroin dungeon items
Heroin?
regal wharf
ok so
the key bricked
8 dawnbreaker
going super well
enh falls through the ship
tank falls through ship
and enh just
leaves
sacred zodiac
Yes but i am dogshit and do not own myth transmitter
i simply lied
balmy kindle
enh falls through the ship
still not fixed
regal wharf
it sucks because DB is the easiest dungeon in the pool
and this shit happens
cant relax
shadow ibex
leaving cuz you died to a bug in a 8 is wild lol
not like its a long walk back just respawn on the ship and see if you fall thru again
faint sparrow
Are you guys running wowhead build for raid? or any better ones out there?
eager sigil
Are you guys running wowhead build for raid? or any better ones out there?
theres different builds for different bosses
but they should also be on wowhead
livid cloak
enh stocks dropping hard, man even had PI
faint sparrow
yeah got wowhead ones but just wondering if any better out there
livid cloak
12 mists, the nerf was real for the poor lads
we love ingra maloch
arms m+ is fun until you get to a boss 😠
eager sigil
yeah got wowhead ones but just wondering if any better out there
check warcraftlogs if you dont trust the guidewriters
but should be the same
shadow ibex
tfw when your ravager is resetting your MS and you start to see colors only shrimp can see
livid cloak
just pretend EB and BL resets = good ST
yeah that's how i cope
livid cloak
100%
shadow ibex
shadow ibex
pressing exe feels like such a trap
livid cloak
my god what happened in that key
livid cloak
i need like 3 more 7s on my blood dk to get out of heroic crest jail
livid cloak
and they are so miserable to do
shadow ibex
yea i might just want till next season to gear my enhance
idk if i wanna slum it up in +3s
at this point in the season its gotta be a bad time
dim basalt
How do they do so little damage what the fuck
shadow ibex
i feel like you can do 500k overall just charging tclap and spamming cleave
bosses will probably bring it down
steep osprey
steep osprey
@boreal quartz
boreal quartz
So
steep osprey
oS
shrewd goblet
is it optimal to just spam execute as much as possible during execute phase, to get more CDR for Demolish or do you still play around Mortal Strike dmg buffs from Executioner's Precision and Overpower?
halcyon valve
yes as much execute as possible, but only pressing execute would be bad and stupid
fully buffed mortal strikes hit BIG
teal fossil
is it optimal to just spam execute as much as possible during execute phase, to ...
Mortal strike crits give 2
Execute always gives 1
So you would follow the regular prio
regal wharf
😠 our resto left right before the last boss on 9 arakara
im so angry
We would have timed it anyway
serene hollow
believe it or not, ban
shadow ibex
bannable offense now right
regal wharf
oh
i thought you were talking about banning me
because I complain about keys too much 🤭
eager sigil
all m+ players should get banned
shadow ibex
push week
regal wharf
8 arakara bricked because no one could burst the adds enough and the tank was shit
i kept being chased around by random mobs for like upwards of 10 seconds
manic river
Question: While using Queen's Mandate we just thow it on CD like a monkee or do we try to sinc up with something after opening?
astral talon
mandate doesnt scale with anything except for vers
teal fossil
Question: While using Queen's Mandate we just thow it on CD like a monkee or do ...
You sync it away from everything else
So you do it outside cds
teal fossil
mandate doesnt scale with anything except for vers
Can still crit and actually works with slayer overwhelmed
peak jacinth
Do we know if the new ring is going to be just a slightly better 619 (3 sockets instead of 2), or with all the comparisons to the Annulet, is it going to be more like 650 with whatever stupidly OP things go in its sockets?
teal fossil
Do we know if the new ring is going to be just a slightly better 619 (3 sockets ...
The odds are that it’s gonna be op until nerfed
manic river
You sync it away from everything else
Okay so throw priority rotation first then send it when it's all clear
teal fossil
Yea
Technically you can do it right after bladestorm
Use mandate to replace a slam somewhere
halcyon valve
Do we know if the new ring is going to be just a slightly better 619 (3 sockets ...
it will be OP
manic river
👍
gray herald
tacit crystal
how much did dn do
