arms

[strange perch]

Nomi?

I predict full revamp of Colossus before the end of expac. screencap this.

[manic river]

Screencraped for the collection

[coral stirrup]

really having trouble understanding the single target raid arms rotation and priority. is it worth holding off the additional 5-6 seconds for bladestorm/avatar to line up with colossus smash? why is it that skullsplitter is less of a priority than mortal strike despite being a 22 second cd? when do i use treacherous transmitter or mad queens mandate and why are 2 on use trinkets preferred over ara-kara sacbrood? the only thing ive been able to truly understand is keeping rend up >4 seconds and maintaining dot uptime

[balmy kindle]

Quite common Colo key build around here, you can run this if you like

In my experience, you might encounter lower boss damage without EP ( mostly in higher keys)

[regal socket]

does garr binding actually existnig?

i now have 12 barron geddon ones

is it like 0 drop rate???

[thick hamlet]

how is it going now

arms busted now? did the 2.5% dr fix it up in m+?

+19 time?

[balmy kindle]

Who is doing +19s short of sweats

[halcyon valve]

Praying that they fix the out of range cancellation of demolish in .1

[thick hamlet]

here's my personal take on a HUGE warrior class talents rework

puting endurance training higher on the tree = gg fixed

[slow saddle]

Removf the two handed specilazation aura buff 6%

Frees up for a torment pick

Trees still horrid but at least we can have some fub

[latent moss]

uhm its akshually 5%

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1123930554761482240/1270637008628219977/4x-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[slow saddle]

Cant blame a guy for trying to get 1%?

[halcyon valve]

Give us an ability where we just stand still and flex to instill fear in our enemies

[fresh spire]

[thick kelp]

lets not forget attt being 4% per point

[ebon garden]

this, let us hit a wind, still best that not trying to hit at all 🙂

[manic river]

This time I have to choose mercurial egg and play around it or ring

IDK

Maybe egg because I still have to change one candle trinket

[latent moss]

egg gameplay

https://tenor.com/view/robozz-electro-man-electro-gif-14636392030153133537

[manic river]

Is it good even if it's not the red one?

If I choose the ring is good stat wise but I'm ditching the raid ring at champion lvl

[manic river]

What do you guys think?

[naive sage]

I do not think, therefore I am not

[boreal quartz]

Sim balances is 10 20 idk

[balmy kindle]

egg is bait

[lime plank]

why is egg bait?

[sacred zodiac]

effort to maintain

it's not bait per se but you are hard griefing if you go under 10/above 20

that takes effort, effort you could be putting into progging whatever you are doing rn

and an equal ilvl ara kara egg should be better

[fresh spire]

It does what it sims. But you have to micromanage the buff

Which is just effort

[icy mulch]

I think I might switch to Arms and join the "Break the Meta" competition.

[timber sundial]

was todays buff anything significant?

[manic river]

Well I guess it's ring then

[eager sigil]

Nah

[balmy kindle]

it looks good on raid io

[shadow ibex]

Egg isn't super toxic to use but idk only boss I progged with it is princess

Didn't feel 1000% terrible but also have a sac to swap it with when I'm annoyed

[livid cloak]

What feedback do you guys have running battle lord and 2bb and eb and no massacre no ep?

I haven't tried that yet, still holding on to ep

Running 1/2 bb, and battle lord with eb

I'm hard stuck at 2900 and just can't break through rn

[balmy kindle]

suffering from success

[ionic latch]

How's Arms feeling rn

[balmy kindle]

I think EP has alot of value at higher keys tho, even at 20% theres some value to be had

tried the no EP no execute talents build but i feel it only feels good on DB

[snow hedge]

Probably a noob question. I love fury but have wanted to try Arms for a bit. Just feel like there is way more down time with arms, like using slam uselessness. Am I just playing it wrong or am I spoiled by Fury craziness?

[boreal quartz]

Arms rarely has empty GCDs - it can have shitty GCD spent slamming tho

[balmy kindle]

Fury is different plystyle as well

[livid cloak]

Colossus m plus during execute is really the only time you should have empty gcds

Never in raid

[balmy kindle]

slam is depressing to press tho (even if it does ok dmg)

[snow hedge]

I will prob try colossus, slayer just doesn't interest me. Any build recs we have for it?

[balmy kindle]

CcEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7AYYmZMjZMPwsNbLLjZAAAAYw0wMDLDzAjlhZGLmZYMjHgZYAAAAAAAwMmtxYA2iBwmZMsADMj2oBwC

you can adjust some of the points u like

Blademasters torment > uproar for one is personal preference

[ripe burrow]

Its good pump for +10 Necrotic ?

[boreal quartz]

Jesus

[elfin violet]

spent all screenshoting skills into the rotation

[tardy crag]

Invest in aug

[ripe burrow]

Yup sur

[loud wadi]

hahaha

[snow hedge]

Thank you! Will give it a go

[livid cloak]

Windows key + shift + s

[elfin violet]

btw for high keys do you guys pref Boneshaker or Earthquaker for the Colossus Shockwave talent?

[tacit crystal]

knock up imo

makes rhe shockwave dr feel less like shit

[halcyon valve]

Frappe mortelle

[livid cloak]

For stonevault take the snare

Others the knock up

Venti frappe mortelle with skim

[inner terrace]

Not good !

[livid cloak]

Arms feels fine

[shadow ibex]

Buff ep

[naive sage]

Arms owns

[halcyon valve]

[manic river]

Arms owns big arms

[steep osprey]

[rare kite]

ww leggo yeah?

[steep osprey]

Yeah

[rare kite]

maan i miss legion arms

so much

[steep osprey]

I'm on a pserver

[rare kite]

if i did that it would torture me

[steep osprey]

lmao

I played it a while ago

and got all the arms/fury leggos

took a while

[rare kite]

i would just get more angry at retail arms if i played legion pserver

[steep osprey]

lmfao

I can imagine

I think DEmolish is something i really like about this arms

Its kinda controversial lol

[rare kite]

i think demolish the ability is satisfying, not a fan of the cdr part. then again not a fan of the cs cdr either

[steep osprey]

I have to charge weave as FoB here

execute doing damage

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

[rare kite]

shattered defenses and precise strikes hoooly

[steep osprey]

That Bloodbath looks like the current spell but it's the dot lol

trinket casually doing 9% dps

[rare kite]

yeaa... trinkets have really suffered from legion design

[steep osprey]

remember antoran command

fury boss

just use BC/OF on all adds

[rare kite]

this trinket for aoe was so goddamn good

[steep osprey]

yeah I have that too

at lower ilvl lol

[halcyon valve]

Ew why is there fury in arms channel

[shadow ibex]

if a trinket was almost doing 9% i would riot

[steep osprey]

To be fair these trinkets had stuff like enrage affecting them

or Battle Cry

so it was diff in legion

[shadow ibex]

Do 8% less cuz of loot

[steep osprey]

Arms does a lot more aoe than fury in legion

it's not even close

fury has faster burst but after that 6 seconds you plummet

arms stays up

[trim arrow]

im pretty sure that was an extremely lucky pull

the strongest part of that trinket was usually the secondary empowerment effect

[steep osprey]

idk if it's extremely lucky but it usaully does somewhere close

[trim arrow]

idr if you needed an amanthuls in the raid

for the second part

[steep osprey]

the legendary?

no

[trim arrow]

yes

[steep osprey]

It only works in Antorus

the second part

[trim arrow]

you also needed 4 buffs active at once

[steep osprey]

oh yeah

that's why it only works in raid

a lot more people

mostly procs on pull

if you don't get the buff from concordance and that on pull

you can feel it lol

[trim arrow]

just force concordance

[steep osprey]

[trim arrow]

ww was the easiest because of chi wave’s travel time

you got it 100% of the time if you didnt screw up

I forgot the specific reason why slow travel time projectile forced concordance on pull however

[steep osprey]

No clue

[errant goblet]

i cant wait to abandon retail for legion classic tbh...

[solar quarry]

hi guys, my guild suck at killing adds on Silken and im not smart enough to fix my own talents, but basically id like to take a little more cleave

any suggestions?

i ripped my current build off WCL a while ago

[inner terrace]

Mythic?

[solar quarry]

of course

[toxic surge]

Me at the coffeeshop in the summer: A black frappe, please!

I'll try Frappe Mortale next time 😄 Now that I know what it means

[inner terrace]

Tbh if you getting slammed by the ads the fury damage profile may just be better for that

[rare kite]

fury

[solar quarry]

no thanks haha

pls respect my pronouns

[fallow lion]

yeah fury can solo kill adds in that fight, as arms u r so slow to do that job ig

I kill yesterday again and that is the adds dmg

[icy mulch]

Am I doing it right? lmao

[halcyon valve]

hell yeah

[vale blade]

That on dummies?

[icy mulch]

lol, yeah

[radiant gale]

is colossus better then slayer in mythic + ? for +10 keys

[astral talon]

Yes

[radiant gale]

ty

[zenith warren]

can i equip 2nd crafted ring with the same name?

[livid cloak]

Does it say unique equipped?

[zenith warren]

dont think so

[livid cloak]

Well look

And that'll give you the answer

[zenith warren]

yeah, wanted to be 100% sure, not to waste crests ^^

[radiant gale]

if it says "Unique-Equipped" then you cant

[inner terrace]

did the boomie die or something lol

[silk spade]

yes

[tacit crystal]

which warrior is that

[storm pivot]

why is my simc prioritizing haste over crit?

is that normal?

[serene hollow]

do as robot say

or don't care, and do what you want

no in between

[silk spade]

main

[wanton ravine]

We can't immune the pull from wrest with bladestorm on queen, right?

[open mason]

you can

[wanton ravine]

No shit, thats neat. Thanks! Edit: I wonder, do we still take damage from the wrest even if we bladestorm it?

[icy mulch]

Ok, I just got the most satisfying cleave crit ever.

19 mil on a single target. lol

Good ol Ingra.

man that was so good

[bronze elbow]

is anyone still playing battlelord or nah?

[open mason]

pretty sure you still take the damage, not 100%

[icy mulch]

Yes

[balmy kindle]

For keys yes

[wanton ravine]

Confirmed it is indeed that way.

[finite wasp]

i would dare say battle lord is meta for colussus build.

[balmy kindle]

No points to spare in the ST build though

[jaunty ingot]

Any important item which is worth to farm in m+? Probably some trinket maybe which would be huge buff in comparison with other gear?

[astral yarrow]

ara ara trinket along with skarmorak shard/mark of khardos from stonevault and grim batol respectively

[wicked aurora]

Ironically sim is telling me to do this

[latent moss]

nooo but u crafted week 1 how are u that ilvl that was supposed to be a massive mistake!!

[silk spade]

they lacked critical information

[steep osprey]

Do you guys feel the defensive buffs for colossus

[naive sage]

Ara ara 💀

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/echidna-ara-ara-re-zero-gif-19959889

[astral yarrow]

that reminds me i should watch the new season

[thick kelp]

Its very good

so far

[astral yarrow]

but it was one of the first shows i watched a couple of years ago

so might have to rewatch

[thick kelp]

rewatch is fine

shows great

[astral yarrow]

i just remember half of one of the seasons is like "bro it cant continue with everything going wrong all the time for this long can it"

[balmy kindle]

Weebs

[astral yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ayaya-yeah-happy-hapinness-kiniro-gif-12992329

[thick kelp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898695696482305/974454369468694538/gifntext-gif.gif

[balmy kindle]

Once you learn Japanese anime can sound cringey

[thick kelp]

Good thing i am learning chinese and russian

[balmy kindle]

Chinese is dank with all the wordplay

[astral yarrow]

i've learned enough japanese to know some of the translations giga suck

hecking love languages bro

[halcyon valve]

Fuckin weebs

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-anime-profile-picture-gif-19903708

[silk spade]

stealing this and using it on myself

[balmy kindle]

日本語話せるので、 weeb は対象になれないですよ

Not a weeb

[halcyon valve]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-speaka-any-english-speaka-speaka-english-jackie-chan-rush-hour-gif-18426418

[balmy kindle]

Yes sir

[astral yarrow]

studying japanese doesnt make you a weeb

or

?

i dont get the kanji in second part

[balmy kindle]

I can speak Japanese, thus the term weeb does not apply

[halcyon valve]

I can recognize maybe like 5 kanji

[astral yarrow]

so i was sorta close

kanji is so fucking hard

[silk spade]

ඞ

[halcyon valve]

A-amogus!!!

[balmy kindle]

Lol I studied 5 years and working in 日系 now

Pain

[astral yarrow]

or rather, im just not consistent enough with practice

[halcyon valve]

There was a time when i tried to learn, but didnt have any plan what i was doing
Long story short i know a couple of words, and all the katakana/hiragana
never spoke a single sentence tho

[balmy kindle]

Kanji is ok since I am ethnic Chinese, the more painful part is grammar

Also being spontaneous in conversation imo is more important

Theres guys who ace exams but speak like a pentium 3

[astral yarrow]

I guess i just dont know enough to know how rough the grammar is, cause at a base level it doesnt seem that hard compared to a lot of european languages

[astral yarrow]

me in spanish

[balmy kindle]

Trial by fire is the most effective way for me, just keep yapping with confidence

Better that than try to speak perfectly ( no Japanese speaks perfect grammar as well )

[astral yarrow]

Had an american exchange student at my high school. Girl picked up danish in 3 months somehow only really fucking up the 2 word genders we have in danish

to which we obviously have rules, but those are kind of eroding because of the spoken language. Hamster for some reason belonging to both because of people fucking that up enough lol

[balmy kindle]

Well if she had interest and passion don't see why not

[astral yarrow]

danish is just notoriously hard to learn unless you are scandinavian or german

but being in an environment where you live with a danish family, go to danish class and hang around danish friends, you are bound to learn a lot and fast

it was hard not to just talk english to her

[naive sage]

Lynch mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[balmy kindle]

Wished Japanese were like that east Asians are kind of the opposite

Speak in their native language= omg you are my BFF

Speak English = ewww

[astral yarrow]

Yeah idk. Went to korea and was told "young koreans speak and understand english well". I show up in Incheon and people dont understand a fucking word im saying

[balmy kindle]

But thats why I am employed

Dw outside of Singapore and Malaysia it do be like that in Asia

[astral talon]

Ovinax dead fuck that boss xD

[balmy kindle]

Meanwhile struggling to reclear H queen here because some guys are mia

[halcyon valve]

We recleared (nearly) up to ovinax with 18 people yesterday lol

Rashanan wipe on like 2% tho

[eager sigil]

Should've filled with people to boost

First 4 costs like 4m

Good gold for alt runs

[rain cipher]

Gz

[halcyon valve]

Yeah we could have, but nobody bothered organizing boosties

[plush belfry]

What's the overall/ST difference between Fury Thane and Collo arms?

I mean, obviously keys, pulls matter etc but I mean in a general sense

ergo does thane have more consistent dps/ST but less burst orrr

[eager sigil]

It's a pain yea

[quasi torrent]

classic bubble language situation

not required in day to day

[balmy kindle]

Thane has more boss damage and less likely to die

[astral yarrow]

I just wanted to buy pills for my headache behind the cashier, but I had to gesture her to pick one by pointing left, right, up or down lol

[strange perch]

@latent moss @waxen elbow @boreal quartz @quick night @tacit crystal mountain thane makes me so angry

😠

[quasi torrent]

just buy some pills of a street vendor

[astral yarrow]

Im sure i could get some good shit on a corner somewhere in Seoul

That place is fucking massive

[balmy sage]

Howzit Gents, Ive been out of the loop of wow stuff, do we know if there are any changes coming to arms in the near future?

[latent moss]

what the bear doin

[eager sigil]

Nothing we know about

[balmy sage]

all good ty

[strange perch]

id do anything for a klondike

[strange perch]

you can be my black kate moss tonight

[latent moss]

[icy mulch]

Ok, so looking for a little clarification on Arms cool down usage.

[thick kelp]

on cd

[icy mulch]

Besides the first set, does anything every truly line up perfectly?

[thick kelp]

no

[icy mulch]

Or just cross your fingers and hope stuff naturally lines up?

I've been trying to get as many mega cleaves in as I can. Just seems you end up sitting on things for 20s or more sometimes.

[tacit crystal]

you dont pray

you press and know that your spec sucks

[icy mulch]

Oooof

Lol

[tacit crystal]

but you crank if you make it to execute without dropping jugg

then you spam execute until you have 2 lb

pure misery

[icy mulch]

I was more talking M+

[tacit crystal]

oh

still on cd

execute is just 2 ep think

if you can line warbringer with demo

👍

but jsut send

[boreal quartz]

More uses is good but it it's close sync stuff with wb

[tacit crystal]

crank

hi philliam

:3

[icy mulch]

Ok, so I'll have to shift my perspective of rolling things around the best fit instead of actually working together.

[tacit crystal]

yeah

but you crank

[slow saddle]

Delete juggernaut, buff execute make arms better

[silk spade]

jugg and slayer strikes

casino class

🎰

[strange perch]

i wish arms was real

like in dragonflight

would be cool

😢

https://tenor.com/view/league-of-legends-tryndamere-game-plan-tryndamere-game-plan-gif-5612322426658101352

[fresh spire]

[next flame]

Delete demolish while you're at it

[vocal gust]

Does Avatar damage buff and sweeping strikes work retroactively on something like Ravager?

Or do you have to hit them before Ravager to get an affect?

[icy mulch]

I don't hate demolish, I just wish it could be cast/channeled while moving.

[livid cloak]

They update dynamically, so yes

You can leap while casting demolish

Very useful

[next flame]

Doesn't leaping just cancel demolish?

[livid cloak]

No

[abstract hornet]

Bring back condemn

[mighty comet]

Hello guys! I just started playing arms warrior this week and idk if I didn't search right but didn't find any info of why colossus os better. Is because of defensive value? Do more DMG? I'm having some issues with demolish cancelling (sometimes tank drag mobs too far away). Is Slayer viable? I don't really go +12, my top keys at this season was +11

[livid cloak]

They're both fine

Colossus can give you better aoe of you utilize it properly with big collateral damage cleaves and demolishes

Slayer is easier by far and has better single target

[boreal quartz]

Colo does more aoe and has shorter CDs so u have damage every pack

Slayer does more st esp with st builds

Slayer is fine for all keys too

[mighty comet]

Tysm 🫶

Is the build from Wowhead good or have one a bit better?

[boreal quartz]

You can really shuffle around a ton of things

[gray herald]

colossus cleave spam build is fun

[elfin violet]

current meta is this

left tree u basically have 2 points to play around with utilities

maybe 3

[boreal quartz]

The eb point, blord and EB

3 points ye

[balmy kindle]

is bae

[livid cloak]

I've been wanting to try that build

And just forego execute

[elfin violet]

in 12+ keys i think i ll swap the Heroic leap talent for pain and gain mb

[livid cloak]

Pain and gain won't do much

The leap cd is very valuable

But ymmv

[boreal quartz]

PNG highkey useless

[elfin violet]

i think of it like, in a situation where u would barely die, it might save u between pulses

but extremely niche

[naive sage]

Execute becomes a filler more or less doesn’t it?

[elfin violet]

or u can think of it like this: if u get a 20%hp damage hit u get 2%max hp back, that's like a 5% delayed DR in this example

every 10 sec* :/

[manic river]

Are we really just forgetting about exe talent at this point?

[balmy kindle]

bruh you told me double dusk is better but robot tells me otherwise at 80% uptime

[boreal quartz]

Yea

[boreal quartz]

Idk which is the crit or vers one

[livid cloak]

Replaces slam

[boreal quartz]

But it also requires 639 wep

[balmy kindle]

crit and vers both simmed 0.4 worse

ah 639 wep is the diff

[livid cloak]

You can still take exe talents

I'm just bored of execute phase in keys with no rage

[boreal quartz]

Its 3% towards better wep at full gear

At enough uptime

[balmy kindle]

icic mb, dont have 639 weapon yet

[manic river]

I'm going ascension myself

[sacred zodiac]

phil will you sim my character i have 16% haste

[boreal quartz]

I will not log in

Nor sim

[sacred zodiac]

remotely detonating the explosives

[balmy kindle]

tried adjusting the sims and its like a 0.7 gain (patchwerk) on 90% uptime .. is the juice worth the squeeze

[gray herald]

fuck it 100% uptime?

[balmy kindle]

i am not sure in keys if 100 uptime is a thing tho so much rot

[boreal quartz]

90 is extremely optimistic - cheat in a 639 wep instead

And see if it helps ur guy sim more

[balmy kindle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mRm9ERhvo4pPaNvYPZYVWX

cheated and its only a 0.7% gain

maybe i am doing something wrong (like not using slayer for one)

[latent moss]

too much

go full vers

0 crit 0 haste 0 mastery full vers

and align fatality with demolish and tom

command ur guild to give u all the pis and lust in cs before fatality

[boreal quartz]

Sim slayer for science

[gray herald]

max vers 0 damage taken

godmode hack

[strange perch]

Why does Arms warrior background art depicts draenei wojack?

[latent moss]

i knew you would get it

[sacred zodiac]

0 0 0 100

[gray herald]

0 O 0 1O0

[sacred zodiac]

surely haste is worth it for the fatality kabumm build

[latent moss]

ye 0 50 0 50 but 0 0 0 100 is close and provides more defensive value

[sacred zodiac]

true

[latent moss]

i heard arms gets oneshot in 5s so u need more vers

[sacred zodiac]

true

[balmy kindle]

interesting results tbf its really like 2-3% more

[latent moss]

what is

bsl?

[balmy kindle]

now i just need blizz to bless a myth track weapon 🙏

[quasi torrent]

9000% mastery

big blast

[thorn spoke]

Okay guys, how are you doing those crazy hits on cleave? Usually my biggest crit during the key is around 4.5M, not even close to numbers that appear here. Is it just skill issue?

[teal fossil]

Play colossus

[astral talon]

colossus

cds

[teal fossil]

Align everything

[astral talon]

stacks

[teal fossil]

Get pi

[astral talon]

ravager right before cleave

so unhinged doesnt eat your ms buffs

[ivory depot]

should you be using avatar right after roar or before?

[eager sigil]

after

[ivory depot]

That's what I thought. What is the reason for that? I like to understand why when I can

[balmy kindle]

collatral damage stacking is the key for meme numbers

get lucky + have PI and u can get like a 22-24 stack or more

[naive sage]

Is there a spec that goes full versa mastery?

[rancid solstice]

no

[thorn spoke]

Ufff okay, thanks. Thought i was just sucking ass. I'm already collossing in keys

[rancid solstice]

unless you mean non warrior spec idk

[naive sage]

Yes I was not clear

[icy mulch]

I managed to pull off a 19 mil cleave with collateral. Lol

Ingra took it like a champ though.

[velvet grail]

can anybody explain to me why my sims show me that umbriss band (big mastery low haste) is better then "key to the unseeming" (big haste low mastery) on same ilvl @ a single target raid scenario?

am i doing something wrong or am i capped in some way?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cm2yR1GuAs3hciKTKi8sEj

[tacit crystal]

you prob have "enough" haste to where mastery and crit give more damage

[ivory depot]

do you guys run out of rage in aoe? Im fresh 80 and probably playing wrong but I feel like I always have rage

[latent moss]

doesnt matter just run what it says. as gio said u prob have "enough" to the point other stats are catching up

either way just run what robot says

[tacit crystal]

rage is cosmetic

!

read wowhead guide if you want to learn how to play it

[ivory depot]

yeah been reading the guide this morning! Thank you. It does seems pretty non-limiting so far

[tacit crystal]

can always ask here for more clarification + there is a lovely video in #449510248579858432 about how to learn a spec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZDwT7GkSg

boom

learning how to learn is broken

[ivory depot]

thank you, I will definitely check this out

[late quail]

learning is for NERDS, real men BRICK KEYS

[slow saddle]

What i did as prot

[strange perch]

bro how good would the game be if keys didnt get depleted

but just kept their level...

[lyric viper]

is there a good guide yall would recommend for maximizing m+ damage? I feel like my numbers lag behind ppl at 2500 io/10+ key runs. Part of it is gear (617 ilevel) but I think I can do more than I am

my raid parses are good so i know my rotation is fine, it might be a targeting/cd usage thing

[quaint otter]

Play game learn timings encounters etc

Maybe watch some streams/videos

[slow saddle]

Word id DREAM of hearing once in my life

We need to bring a warrior to M+ for

[halcyon valve]

biggest crit only 7 million tho 😔

[quaint otter]

[chrome lichen]

in silken court mythic, i die to Touch of Death, what is this?

[dim basalt]

Bro raids mythic court and didnt read a guide

[quaint otter]

therefore big gamer

[paper tundra]

For ST opener I’m confused. If doing demolish (M+) do we send it at whatever stacks after sending CDs? Or do we wait until you have ten stacks. Same thing for aoe opener?

Or do we ever only wait for 10 stacks in aoe and always send once up in ST?

[pliant jetty]

based

[teal fossil]

its usually 6 stacks in aoe

[paper tundra]

And on Cd in ST?

Just with warbreaker?

[balmy kindle]

You should be able to build stacks fast

In ST if u have 10 stacks you should use demolish, or on cd

But on openers do try to use ravager and build stacks , then use demo when debuff is still up

[teal rampart]

is there any visual resource in here for range/cones of cleave SS demo etc?

[tacit crystal]

not that i know of

you could just hit dummy and find out

i want to say for most who play its just from playing game

[slow saddle]

man at 632 i still cant get into 10s

😄

[trim arrow]

Yeah you missed it with Legion

[astral talon]

Need score too

And you're not meta spec

[slow saddle]

true im only 2600

but ive done 11s in keys i cant get into 10s

[astral talon]

Oh

Should be enough

[trim arrow]

yeah i just tank

[astral talon]

Unlucky i guess

[slow saddle]

mich same i just wanted to meme

Imagine if RALLY

[trim arrow]

my favorite thing is going into pugs

[slow saddle]

was 25% in M+

then i reckon we sometimes would have a spot

[trim arrow]

and the healing meter is 5 dark blues

in raid

[slow saddle]

and ofc Ignore pain worked like in DF

[trim arrow]

nah still mid

[slow saddle]

well it would give us something

[trim arrow]

end of the day damage is the end all be all

[slow saddle]

if we had high rally - Bloodlust and our stuns as it is

ofc. but thats not what i want to hear

[zinc wolf]

Score, 634,5 ilvl and they still stingy

[slow saddle]

in a 10 range. ppl are always brought for percived utility

[zinc wolf]

Kek

[trim arrow]

doubt it

I just instant a dps over 635 for weekly 10s

ima be fr

[astral talon]

2800, 636 still get declined 😦

[trim arrow]

i dont invite augs though

spec is banned

[zinc wolf]

I no longer invite hunters and people from archumonde

[trim arrow]

thats me with mages

[zinc wolf]

Or was it hyjal

The french realm

They dissapointed me 3 times in row

[trim arrow]

Sounds like US ragnaros.

For some reason ragnaros players not only suck but have egos for some reason.

[astral talon]

Kazzak

Is the worst

[balmy kindle]

2680 633 here, sometimes I get to sneak into oce keys

Because oce lacks competent players people will take anyone with good score and ilevel

Thankfully guildies dm running

[latent moss]

colossus smash tactician... shattered defenses....

[slow saddle]

100%

arms was boss

CS with tactician was dopamine

tbh hitting warbreaker still feels rly good

[icy mulch]

2970 and still get declined. Pug life man, its no joke.

[astral talon]

ye

i stopped pugging

i do my weekly 10s with guildies

chilling hard

[weak rain]

you are not 639 thats why

[slow saddle]

Fact

[astral talon]

636 is pretty close 😦

[weak rain]

Cmon, my alt(mirror) is 636

[slow saddle]

Hmm well rough when u gpt hc trinkies

Vault does not give trinkets

[astral talon]

i got skarmorak from vault 😄

[slow saddle]

GZ!

I hope they delete transmitter like trinkets

Just be puzzle box

Thats enuff

[astral talon]

nah that was like a month ago

or more lmao

[slow saddle]

Well

So far ive gotten no trinket or weap in vault🤣

[thorn spoke]

Okay, that was one fat mortal strike, i love it

[slow saddle]

Mists?

I love the whole fully stacking a cleave on boss.and sending it for a crit

[thorn spoke]

Yea, mists

[halcyon valve]

stacking a nice juicy collateral before boss goes into dmg amp 🤤

[thorn spoke]

I always was a sucker for MS, probably loving the stacked MS more than stacked cleave

[slow saddle]

Does less dmg

So

[slow saddle]

And not critting💩

[livid cloak]

2970 huge

Idk I have 0 issue getting into 11s for weekly vaults

Getting into keys that give io is impossible unless I group queue or run my own, but that is okay

But no problems getting into stuff for vault

2600 isn't that high rn, I just hit 80 on a blood dk a week and a half ago with 0 experience on the class and it's already 2660

2600 isn't even all 10s right?

[dim basalt]

All 10 is like 2660 or so?

Or a bit lower

[livid cloak]

I wanna get 3k on arms this season but I'm losing steam.

[astral yarrow]

I have every 10 2 or 3 chested i think and im at 2650ish

[livid cloak]

That sounds right

[icy mulch]

I have 2 13s and the rest 12s. Pugging is just not fun, but I guess it's not really suppose to just be pug content.

I'm slowly building up a steady group, so hopefully that pans out and I get to play more dungeons and less que simulator.

[livid cloak]

I've been close on 3 diff 13s but haven't timed yet, pure pugging

[icy mulch]

I actually timed 13 Dawnbreaker before I timed any 12s.

[livid cloak]

I'm still missing cot and sv12. Cot idk why but each grp I get in just can't finish it off. Haven't tried sv yet

[icy mulch]

Thing I hate about CoT is that the first 80% of the dungeon the healer can basically sleep. Last half... not so much. Mind you the poison rot damage from the big beetles suck.

[dim basalt]

Every boss is tough for the healer

But the amount of healers that dont know how to play the 1st boss is insane

[icy mulch]

At least we can make everyone's life a little easier on that boss with reflect.

[fresh spire]

Just heal 4head

[dim basalt]

Huh can you reflect the orb debuff?

I dunno because I only tank in M+ so I never get it

[daring heron]

yes just press reflect after frontal and you'll be immune to the orb debuff application

[dim basalt]

Damn

[boreal quartz]

It's a good warrior boss

[rancid solstice]

Gonna start M court prog, my ilvl is a little low 629, would Colo be better for the DR? Seeing both hero talents played

[boreal quartz]

Cuz it has no armor either

[boreal quartz]

Youll only die to oneshots ngl

Go for what u prefer

[rancid solstice]

Well I like that. Was trying to browse WCL but site seems down rn

[boreal quartz]

Slayer is better in logs

Except some few colo enjoyers

[rancid solstice]

I like both I’ll just try bof em

[livid cloak]

Oh I'm dumb I didn't know you could pre sr the orb in cot 1st boss

I always used it for thr damage reduction after

You can't do that on siege last boss can you?

[tacit crystal]

its a giga gamble

and not consistent

better saving it for the initial damage

[icy mulch]

I think I've been able to reflect putrid water once successfully.

And it still puts the circle on you.

[charred brook]

Does this work every time

That’s huge

[icy mulch]

Yes, as long as it targets you, only 1 to deal with.

[daring heron]

ye your reflect is ready every time

[fathom shoal]

60% of the time, it works everytime

[halcyon valve]

W arrior

[fresh spire]

W

[errant goblet]

what is this in reference too? what orb on what boss

[icy mulch]

SoB, kraken boss. Putrid water orbs.

[wintry scroll]

orb on DB ?

[daring heron]

no, city of threads

[slim cypress]

Is reflect up also for the root on last boss CoT? I feel like it’s just barely still on CD when the root goes off

Maybe I need to reflect earlier

[quaint otter]

better for dot

[slim cypress]

Oh you can immune the dot application on last boss?

[quaint otter]

reflect

[slim cypress]

So it applies back to boss for dmg?

[quaint otter]

yep

[slim cypress]

Damn the root is a bait

[quaint otter]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQQCkBEkOadsvO4sTphB1RwzC6Z_3kq00IFaBrCk5Eagz2Jeoox7D7Rk3XwXMINbh4lUg9Vr-3RgoB2/pubhtml#

[slim cypress]

Yeah I need to comb thru that more, feel like there are more I’m not aware of

Or just forgetting about

[wintry scroll]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q4VFCmusv9V3S7wZyiQ26a
can anyone help me with this and maybe explain why does the blasphemite gem not sim better whatsoever

since it's recommanding me to go with same kind of gems

[thick kelp]

check always use 4+

[wintry scroll]

ah

didn't know that was a thing thanks

[balmy kindle]

stronk

[weak wave]

https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/arms/warrior/mythic-plus/overview/high-keys/all-dungeons/this-week?utm_campaign=subcreation-migration&utm_source=subcreation&utm_medium=redirect

Colossus seems to be a popular M+ build.. but how can we do ST dmg with that?

[teal fossil]

You don’t do st damage

[weak wave]

😦

[halcyon valve]

You do

Just crit more

[icy mulch]

heh, Col ST is kinda sad.

[gusty nymph]

Can u macro bs + mad queen mandate? If yes, does anyone has macro?

[marsh needle]

mqm has a cast time, im sure there’s some type of castsequence macro that’s possible, but really not worth having over 2 separate binds

[halcyon valve]

Thats a much better response than what i was going to write

[teal fossil]

It used to be that you channel things with old blade masters torment

Obviously that doesn’t exist anymore

[gusty nymph]

Ok, t’y guys for your answers

[livid cloak]

wow that spell reflect on first boss of CoT

actual game changer

so how can you optimally use reflect on viq'goth?

just if you get targeted for the circle?

[naive sage]

I think that it can only be deflected and you must track its cd

Still it’s quite random

[sacred zodiac]

i havent seen a single vid of someone successfully reflecting this

[livid cloak]

👍

[sacred zodiac]

just use it defensively

[wintry scroll]

is it worth sending demolish without stacks in aoe ?

like on pull with cds in m+

[nocturne palm]

I run Slayer in keys

Doing pretty well when I compare myself to my Fury performance

Colussus is just too volatile for my taste

[wintry scroll]

arms should normally be better than fury in m+ since uncapped dmmg

but it is what it is

[nocturne palm]

Which damage is uncapped?

Oh I get it, nvm

Most packs are only about 5 mobs anyway, with only a few pulls being really big. At least in my PuG runs. Maybe that is why Fury performs so well

[fossil thistle]

Break the Meta boys.

[sly venture]

My two fav specs

[stuck jasper]

Do you guys know why there's no condition on Colossal Might stacks for casting demolish in ST ? But there's one (10 stacks) in MT ?

[hybrid flax]

How much am I gimping myself by playing arms slayer over fury in the 8-10 range?

[solemn finch]

Finally, all 12's done, road to 3k!

[halcyon valve]

amen

[shadow ibex]

You get 10 very fast in aoe

[slim cypress]

All pug?

[quaint otter]

[hushed pine]

A+ for playing troll

[quasi torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1312205886512435251/image.png?ex=674ba676&is=674a54f6&hm=d05bdc1b1bf2173efd963e46b95554a8a8c656fb9979505082706ea4dcf8378e&

@daring heron

rate this new build

[astral yarrow]

uwu toph uwu

[uncut shard]

uwu

[astral yarrow]

wtf is that

[quasi torrent]

miss hina cutout in lethal company

[uncut shard]

How can you not know

[astral yarrow]

i live under a rock bro

i hardly know memes

[quasi torrent]

miss hina is genderbend gorou

(exists in game as this cutouf)

[daring flicker]

thanks anda

[tacit crystal]

fresh meat

[solemn finch]

All pug yeah, you gotta imagine the waiting time lol

[daring heron]

imagine having all those exe things but no aj

[quasi torrent]

the more u look

the worse it gets

[daring heron]

what happened to class talents also

[tacit crystal]

ph yeah

[stuck jasper]

Is there an issue with CD reduction of Demolish on simc ? I tried to sim on 2 target dummies for 2min, the sim casts only 2 demolish when I can cast 4 🤔

[nova marsh]

Could easily be variance

Specifically crit variance

In addition uhh....aoe sims ye?

The aoe APL is usually a bit behind the st one

I'd say you also seem to have more casts of cleave but that shouldn't matter?

[stuck jasper]

I used vary_combat_length=0 to be sure to sim for 2 min. And has crit an impact on demolish CD reduction ?

[nova marsh]

Yes ms crits give 2 syacks

Which gives Dubble the cdr

[stuck jasper]

Ah, I see, ty

Tried again, had far more crits on MS (37%) but still 4 demolish casts.

Ah, simc wait 30sec to cast its first demolish when using actions.colossus_sweep. I guess it doesn't help

[slim cypress]

i got to like 2700 ish as prot so that i could have a somewhat easier time getting into groups as arms lol

[solemn finch]

oh man, there has been days where i been on for 3-4 and only done one dungeon lol

3-4 hours&

Stonevault 12 was the one who took me the longest, maybe around 30 tries lol

[slim cypress]

SV was my last 11 as prot

that dungeon is deceptively hard as pugs i feel like skamorak or w/e his name is starts fucking up pug healers

[tardy crag]

It's hard to count to 3 imo

[nova marsh]

Skarmoak is awful with pugs because they just

Keep killing adds

exploade 3 times

and your wiped GG

[slim cypress]

yeah

[nova marsh]

It's even worse if u play a squisher class then warrior like shaman and two go off at the same time

You just fold no matter what you do. It's so bad

[slim cypress]

yeah now that im learning to def stance dance more im feeling hella beefy

spell reflect actually op

[nova marsh]

Ye

Once you get those two defensives down and throw in IP you can live most shit

warrior is lucky to be tanky

[slim cypress]

pretty sure ill never have enough brain ridges to use IP as arms

[nova marsh]

I meant IV sorry

[slim cypress]

intervene?

[nova marsh]

You don't nessisarily NEED IP to live most circumstances

No

Impending victory

[slim cypress]

ohhhh

i always think of victory rush

yeah IV hella clutch like 3rd boss COT

[nova marsh]

I forget victory rush exists half the time

because victory rush did fuck all most of the time before DF

because you couldn't kill anything and it was kinda unintive in actual encounters

[slim cypress]

wait what is the difference again

this my 1st seasson playing warrior

[nova marsh]

Victory rush you HAVE to kill something before you can use it and it's free

IV is on a 45 second CD (I think?), costs 10 rage, and just gets a CD reset when you kill something

It's the same heal thou

[slim cypress]

IV 25sec CD

[nova marsh]

Oh

Oh nevermind

[slim cypress]

ohh okay damn yeah just make the IV improvements baseline

[nova marsh]

IV is a 30% heal vs Victory rush's 10

Holy fuck that's a buff

at least according to wowhead

I'm not on my warr atm

[smoky kayak]

Victory Rush is 20%, Impending Victory is 30%

[regal wharf]

i tried holy priest out and jesus christ

how do people heal in this game?

I feel like im going to have a heart attack

[smoky kayak]

Wowhead tooltip shows 10% because it starts at 10% when you learn it at L5 and then is increased by another 10% at L11

but ofc the website doesn't know what level you are or what passive effects you may or may not have, so it doesn't account for all that on default tooltips

[rancid solstice]

Tbf Im pretty sure holy priest is bar none the worst healer rn

[nova marsh]

Ah okay ty archi

[manic river]

More than resto druid?

[balmy kindle]

Resto druid is pretty ok now tbh but they don't handle bad play well (can't save you from one shots, but can keep you topped off)

They also bring motw

[obsidian remnant]

Where do I exchange Mark of Honor?? Lol

[nova marsh]

Isn't resto more of a raid healer?

where you only really get one shot if shit goes south

[quaint otter]

Jeez man its a myth...

[thick hamlet]

any new arms warriors popping off in m+ after the buff?

looking for youtubers/streamers etc

[balmy kindle]

Don't think any prominent streamers or YouTubers plays arms. The closest you get is critcake

[silk spade]

biz is streaming colossus keys atm

[thick hamlet]

that's cool

i thought he was on fury

[slow saddle]

Buff?

The tiny bit of defense?

[steep osprey]

Colossus single target in m+

[slow saddle]

Its big!!

[thick hamlet]

yuuuge

[steep osprey]

I go into biz's stream and he has 6 MS procs in a row

[slow saddle]

Imagine if ms did dmg!!!

[steep osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-login-loginwow-login-meme-gif-12215928468343350012

MS needs another 20% buff

I think slam should also get buffed

[slow saddle]

More

[steep osprey]

by about 50%

[slow saddle]

Remove mp

Make warrior great

[steep osprey]

I think MP is cool imo

but I think MS should also do more damage on it's own

removing MP removes the interactions

[slow saddle]

U csnt have both

[steep osprey]

rather have some interaction than just damage so i'll choose mp

[slow saddle]

So

Ep mp avatar cs col

Is good?

[steep osprey]

bring back legion arms

[slow saddle]

Yup

Tactician proc wb

Would feel awesome

[steep osprey]

Speaking of Legion arms

[slow saddle]

Mp mby only 1 stack?

[steep osprey]

even MS cost 20 rage

[steep osprey]

@slow saddle

Slam used to slam

[balmy kindle]

Just from the lack of cleave you know it's legion

[steep osprey]

And Ravager damage

and MS damage

And Slam

And Whirlwind damage

[balmy kindle]

Also lack of deep wounds being a huge part of our damage ( BFA cough)

[steep osprey]

Deep Wounds didn't even exist in LEgion lol

[steep osprey]

1000% buff moment

[balmy kindle]

Yes I am aware legion is all

Then blizzard was like hmm let's make big 🗡️ spec a bleed spec now

[main wing]

Isnt overhwleming rage useless for arms?

[steep osprey]

Not for slayer

[main wing]

Ah ok thx!

[hushed pine]

Is this Felsong?

[steep osprey]

uwow

[hushed pine]

I see Sephuz

Man

[naive sage]

Sisyphus

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rael-gif-943215023730044045

[hushed pine]

That trinket damage

Khaz'goroth's Flame was so good

[cunning jewel]

Hey ! Which % of haste is great in Arms slayer ?

[balmy kindle]

Ask raidbots

[icy mulch]

A lot

https://imgur.com/a/7KsyCKl

[naive sage]

More than 4 for sure

[halcyon valve]

Certainly

[livid cloak]

Delete pawn 🙏

[tacit crystal]

Delete fury🙏

[quasi torrent]

if fury needs deletion

arms needs words i cant put into this discord

[naive sage]

Delete warrior altogether

[slow saddle]

God

[slim cypress]

we out here interrupting

[steep osprey]

lmfao

[slow saddle]

Where have u been??🤣

[slim cypress]

lol nah im playin that was with the NW orbs

i did have 27 of those with pummel tho

[shadow ibex]

A hero

Blizzard misheard thought we said hero spec

[near perch]

Has anyone experimented with the rank 1 chinese slayer arms build in M+ yet?

[daring heron]

dont bother he's boosted

[near perch]

damn

[candid pecan]

sry the what? checking

[near perch]

guess no chance for slayer above 3.1k

[near perch]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/slayer/DAOBRUFBFQmEVKSUUBANVVBFURVlUkFQFDRBAEVVVUBB

[boreal quartz]

not even that

but hes in keys we have logs for

doing actual tank damage

[near perch]

thought he was onto something

I tried for a few dungeons it's not bad but I thought maybe I was doing something wrong but if he is boosted it's w/e

[candid pecan]

his +16 NW log what?

[near perch]

[naive sage]

Slayer build no SD and EP bro has discovered the eldritch truth unknown to men or smth

[candid pecan]

S2 tier set will make us meta trust

[naive sage]

11.1 tier set gives bloodlust

[candid pecan]

yuge

[near perch]

I mean some coloss builds are fine without EP

[naive sage]

Yeah, as you said, colossus

[near perch]

dw i'm aware that slayer uses execute more often

but im not that deep into the math tho how much EP does

[thick kelp]

its big

unfortunately

[near perch]

been doing battlelord over it, not feeling like anything missing tbh

[boreal quartz]

Blord gives rage, EP incentivizes spending it

Depends on slayer and shaman in grp imo

[thick kelp]

i loove feeling

[near perch]

yeah sry for context colossus battle lord ideally with sham

just the resets on MS is just dopamine idk

[slow saddle]

Ye ive played col arms with eb and battlelord is decent dmg

[near perch]

The cool thing about the chinese build was that you would almost always get the empowered cleave after SS into bonegrinder window, still kinda sad now

[halcyon breach]

@astral yarrow pile on

[astral yarrow]

plon

[naive sage]

Plin plin plon

[balmy kindle]

at the keys i am doing (10-12) EP still has good value so even tho it feels bad i am using it

[mental sand]

Hey I’m new to arms and have been following the wowhead guide for M+ builds. Is there a YouTuber or video guide yall would recommend to watch how they pilot the class

[balmy kindle]

For arms unfortunately theres only crit cake on youtube in terms of 'big'

theres some others as well but its like keys 10-11s

[mental sand]

The guy who played arms in mdi doesn’t stream right?

[thick kelp]

which one

there were two

[quasi torrent]

(assuming theyre talking about the one playing it in globals)

[icy mulch]

The Chinese one was slayer? Hmm, I did a Slayer Arms earlier. You need to spec more into ST for it to not totally feel awful.

Not that Col ST is much to write home about.

[boreal quartz]

Walli does

Mainly during race and well he did stream mdi

[icy mulch]

Just hard to juggle CS into bladestorm into Cleave in slayer.

[icy mulch]

Also, why bother taking Massacre if not EP? da hail...

[steep osprey]

Yo did you make that arms list of wishes

[icy mulch]

That exists?

[steep osprey]

Well, Xan has a wishlist talent rework for fury

[icy mulch]

I'd love to take a look at it.

[near perch]

idk not my build

[tacit crystal]

https://www.youtube.com/live/JD5S2mS99Ds?si=RNTpdJ5HhtMq50Hf&t=15343

[minor gust]

Ppaws arms manifesto goes pretty hard

[tacit crystal]

grandpa ppaws

https://tenor.com/cXnwX8JbSxZ.gif

[ivory depot]

does someone have a weak aura that announces when you are spell reflecting and when it works?

[slow saddle]

Macro sr + yell reflicting

Reflecting

[gaunt owl]

[rancid solstice]

🥹

[steep osprey]

[quaint otter]

show details

[rancid solstice]

twas only a +9 key

[tacit crystal]

blasta

[rancid solstice]

colossus is a pretty good time just grinding out these 9-10 keys for cresties

weird never pressing execute though

[tacit crystal]

?

srs or

[rancid solstice]

well its rare i mean, playing the no EP with BL and EB, OP > MS > OP > MS

happens a lot even in execute range

[tacit crystal]

[rancid solstice]

[opal flax]

just starting out war. which spec you think feels better to play. arms or fury. main is bm and want to play a spec that has feel good moments like blade storm feels dope to press

[silk spade]

play both

[tacit crystal]

^

[minor gust]

It's all preference. But if you want bladestorm action just play fury Slayer.

[sly venture]

I mean from one smoothbrain spec like BM to another would be Fury. Arms just doesnt have that imo.

[minor gust]

Arms doesn't have anything but disappointment and Colossus aoe

[sly venture]

So true. I enjoyed the Jugg spec in DF S3 for some reason though.

[granite swift]

Do you guys run slayer or colo for court?

[rancid solstice]

Both work

[minor gust]

If your progging just play Slayer tbh Colossus is more of a farm thing

[shadow ibex]

every 45 sec line up super awesome TR and sks combo to...make bleeds hit harder

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-3851471549750385303

[minor gust]

Die sks die

[shadow ibex]

tres impactful global

[autumn valley]

is there a reason why i should ever NOT mortal strike after 2 executes (in execute phase)?

[halcyon valve]

If youre slayer, a fully stacked juggernaut execute does more dmg than mortal strike with only 2 executioners precision

Plus more rage use = more cooldown reduction

[autumn valley]

ty

[halcyon valve]

If youre colossus, just press mortal strike, its a much better ability as colossus

[autumn valley]

im in st so doing slayer

side note, hate the execute animation now

[shadow ibex]

brown class = brown spell effects

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-that-makes-sense-sf3-sfiii-street-fighter3-street-fighter-iii-gif-16200983

[autumn valley]

😄

the way you go from attacking to the sword behind you and to the left just looks disjointed imo

[nova marsh]

Don't see ret with pink effects but go off

[shadow ibex]

was making a joke

[minor gust]

Whooooosh

[sleek chasm]

Is Fang as good as it sims? Vet level is outsimming heroic arsenal.

[summer shore]

anyone plays arterial bleed in keys

[teal fossil]

Not great

[latent moss]

yeah u are dropping 25% increased cleave damage

[summer shore]

i use it, it's not too bad

[naive sage]

Arterial bleed is totally out of place in the colossus tree imo

Should have been put in the slayer one, maybe

[boreal quartz]

nah its good we have an st and an aoe option

[halcyon valve]

It can be good in sustained aoe

Funnily enough the biggest holdback for arterial bleed in large aoe scenarios is thunderclap not spreading rend to enough targets

[balmy kindle]

That and also the times when you go through extended periods of 10 stacks might is kind of rare

Most o the times you gonna demo and reset it to zero

[halcyon valve]

Well youre gonna have to hold demo during roar

Simple as that

Total of 69% (nice) increased bleed damage from those two effects stacking

[naive sage]

I hate this talent so much

It just shows how little they care

"hmm We have no idea what to put there, just buff overpower more xd"

[boreal quartz]

theres a bazillion of those nodes

[quasi torrent]

warrior hero talents are just casino + bland

[quaint otter]

Entire warrior talent tree is

( )

[hushed pine]

What would you rather have?

Genuinely curious

[tacit crystal]

not a dps warrior

[naive sage]

Anything impactful on the gameplay instead of dumb percentages

[latent moss]

legion arms

[thick hamlet]

does demolish hit behind me

as in

does it do an aoe where it slams that hits all around it including things behind my character

or is it more like a cone/half circle