arms

[thick kelp]

about echoes

from nome

what in walhe in echo

[latent moss]

hoooly

that would go hard

[thick kelp]

lfg

[latent moss]

wait wasnt nome trialing for advance or am i tweaking

why did thye even rebrand from nocco

[thick kelp]

they lost sponsorship

• some drama afaik

[latent moss]

they had sponsorship??????

[thick kelp]

tmy knows it all (as usual)

[thick kelp]

Ye they got free nocco

[latent moss]

he was prob raiding there on his 63rd warrior

[thick kelp]

I think it was the 77th

[latent moss]

(full bis week 3)

[thick kelp]

(as usual)

now he will ping us both and call us dents

[latent moss]

typical

i have undeniable evidence of his 59th warrior raiding with northern sky (boosting them)

in exchange for secret dark weakauras

[thick kelp]

typical tmy

[honest zenith]

yoo, is our sims correct? see more and more classes go elsewhere for their sims

[eager sigil]

elsewhere?

[honest zenith]

then raidbots

and also do we do diffrent gems for the bonus?

[eager sigil]

sim it

i dont run different ones

[latent moss]

where

wont chagne anything

raidbots just runs simc

you can download simc and run it locally

a big top gear might take a few hours cause consumer pcs generally dont have 32 cores

[woven wasp]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-confirms-nerub-ar-palace-hall-of-fame-is-full-and-will-close-on-next-351337?utm_source=discord-webhook

🏛️ 🦆

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelpavoidance or

[thick kelp]

avoidance

[boreal quartz]

lolmoaxddpoga

[latent moss]

banger vault

i see u are a m+ enjoyer

[boreal quartz]

fuck keys

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/true-trueing-morgan-freeman-gif-13670948309525251322

this is so cursed

[boreal quartz]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
F

U
C
K

i need to keeey

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[thick kelp]

buy with

hc crests

[boreal quartz]

I dont have enough of those for 160 gilded

[quaint otter]

Run nm and hm raids free 1k

[boreal quartz]

• no more reclear

[thick kelp]

Gripppers out @boreal quartz @latent moss

[hushed pine]

[boreal quartz]

Dawgs checked

[latent moss]

i got the same mog

based

[thick kelp]

brfeg

[quaint otter]

On orc

[wheat swan]

need warrior that can vc for first 4 mythic bosses last dps needed

[regal socket]

somehow tank + dps queue for queen LFR is 25 mis

what the fuck

[eager sigil]

yea noone is playing healer

[regal socket]

le sigh

[tender pecan]

I believe this is what you call good shit

but ofc someone had to die so we wiped on silken

[astral talon]

yay demolish works on ovinax now

doesn't freeze me for 10 seconds

[sacred zodiac]

elaborate

[tacit crystal]

prob server lag

[astral talon]

i had an issue for the longest time on ovinax where demolish would give me a few seconds lag

as in, channel wouldn't finish for like 5 more seconds

which delayed last hit

iirc i sent clips of it few times xd

[sacred zodiac]

hmm

maybe divine intervention to stop you from trolling

[hexed saddle]

utter woke nonsense

[tacit crystal]

uwn

[silk turret]

Why don't you take war breaker in the m+ talents?

[naive sage]

Personally I do but blunt instruments is strong for prio targeting

[silk turret]

With Colossus hero talents even?

[naive sage]

Yeah I think? I see no correlation

[silk turret]

I might just suck, but I feel like the single target on Colossus is dog water

So the extra DMG on lower Dps doesn't correlate as well as DMG on more targets

[hushed pine]

It generally has lower ST than Slayer

[naive sage]

It is

[hushed pine]

Pretty good aoe tho

[cloud gyro]

you can do very strong st as slayer in dungeons yeah

[astral talon]

so, god gave up on me?

[regal socket]

does ass rogue have better st than arms?

[eager sigil]

on what

[regal socket]

a st boss

one target

[valid flame]

Better in what way? More dmg? More fun? Better design?

Because yes to all of those.

[regal socket]

more dmg

i jsut meant pure numbies

[shrewd crow]

so does SS affect BS ?

[regal socket]

bladestorm? no

single target abilites

[shrewd crow]

ye

thought so

[hushed pine]

SS doesn't affect Unhinged anymore, no

[cerulean dock]

What build are you guys running now?

[halcyon valve]

started ovinax prog and im padding lets go

huge demolish

[silent flame]

Show the dps of demolish :O

[astral talon]

falls off a bit at 3rd cannister xD

but its fun

and does goooooood burst

[halcyon valve]

23% of all

[halcyon valve]

big demolish gives me neuron activation

[silent flame]

Can i see on the meters :D
sorry dsadsafdsa

Rn idk why but people are having problems on sikran
last week we rekilled it on like
2nd pull
we are nearing like 20 tonight

[halcyon valve]

not the same pull, did not get beyond first eggs

[astral talon]

my guild got 6.8% best pull 😦

so close yet so far

[silent flame]

Wough

[halcyon valve]

i just wish i had transmitter 😔

khardros mark is nice too but it doesnt make number as big

[silent flame]

Fiar

god rn

We had some dude run the opposite way

in the sikran thing

Bro im dead we got this in 2 pulls last time and now it's taking us like

a billion

Also
ik i asked before but anyone got a collosus build without Skullsplitter or the MS/Cleave reset talents

[halcyon valve]

we managed first 3 in 1 pull, and rashanan in 2 pulls today, good reclear

[silent flame]

Yea

to be fair

we had over an hour and thirty minutes just standing at ulgraxc

because people were having issues with logging on

Also
Lil flex
but i got my highest mythic parse so far :O

95 on bloodbound (assa)

[halcyon valve]

oh yeah, we had the same, then just went into heroic for the skip and actually finally got a spymaster to drop

[silent flame]

Lmao

idk what to do
1 more key, finish off proffesions or just go to sleep

uni is 4PM - 7PM tmrrw

Question is

do i try a 10 on my arms or bm
my BM is like 590 XD
Rat level atm
like i run out of defensives during boss fights

[cobalt sinew]

is it known whether or not they will be building future tier sets around hero talents

[woven wasp]

they said something about that before tww launched but never followed through with it so i wouldnt count on it

[cobalt sinew]

in the negative or like "yeah you might see tier sets that neccessitate the use of xyz hero talent"

[woven wasp]

unless i had a hallucination, i recall them saying they might base the s1 tier around hero talents instead of specs

[silent flame]

I hope they make one for fatebound rogue that makes your coin flips more consistant

Literally slot machine hero treer

[onyx dune]

hey, quick question about relentless pursuit (slayer) on broodtwister

if you take that talent, do you need to run out before roots go out and then just charge to break the root?

[woven wasp]

you can leap out once the root goes on you

[onyx dune]

ah okay, then just charge to break it?

[woven wasp]

yeah

[onyx dune]

cool, didnt realize you could leap while rooted lol

[cerulean dock]

So the weapon and the wrists are the correct embelishments yes?

[woven wasp]

well it doesnt root you when it goes on you, just a slow

it will root anyone else in the circle when its dispelled

[onyx dune]

ah you're right, thanks!

[zenith warren]

khardos over corosive is like 0.2% but ill take it because fuck a desynced trinket

corosive might be better for procing queen's ring though but I dont have it

[sacred zodiac]

if corrosive would make the ring proc more then simc would properly sim this

[zenith warren]

does it even count that interaction?

[sacred zodiac]

idk no idea what damage type corrosive does

if it did the correct damage type it'd sim it properly

[zenith warren]

yeah, sims slightly higher with a ring but still behind khardaros

[sacred zodiac]

might be variance

just go nab a treach or a mandate

[shadow ibex]

farming zacool shoulders and forgot how amazing entrance to eternal palace is

[nova marsh]

Hot take

EP was a good raid

BESIDES queens court. That fight can burn in hell

[shadow ibex]

queen was pretty bad

first phase was just dumb and boring on prog

[nova marsh]

I kinda liked Queen aside from Phase 1

Phase 1 was just....why

Why did it even exist

[balmy kindle]

P1 is there to gate keep brute forcing

[loud fjord]

Are the bladestorm/ravager mortal strikes counting into sweeping strikes?

[balmy kindle]

They don't cleave, but iirc it still gives you extra stacks of colossal might

[dire torrent]

Guys, question. I wanna play arms, but I'm not so good as I'm playing fury . But I got an idea . I play more with thunder for the movement speed slow and the bleed de buff and I thought if I trade rend for skull and use . Sweeping >skull>thunder (or thunder >skull ) it will work this? . What is your thoughts on this?

[balmy kindle]

Arms doesn't really use TC outside as aoe filler / apply rend tho

It's very different from Thane fury ( since you mentioned you play fury)

You can however use TC instead of rend, it's not much of a DPS loss

[dire torrent]

I thought like this because tc doesn't apply rend to the target that will hit . I thought like this . I will try this build later and say if it works or not

[next flame]

M+ or raid?

[dire torrent]

Both

[next flame]

In m+ dump skull splitter

[manic river]

Guys, since I'm probably going for crafter weapon + nerubian embl. what other non crafted cloaks and or bracelets are there for arms?

[mental fern]

why do ppl play fury in pvp?

[astral yarrow]

if you arent gonna get 369 items, take whichever slot is your worst out of belt/boots/bracers/cloak

[sterile sparrow]

Same reason they play wow to begin with : ||FUN||

[thick hamlet]

it simply outperforms arms on both offense and defense

also its mortal strike is stronger for some reason

[astral yarrow]

outside the sharpen thingy i'd imagine

[halcyon valve]

Because they are blind to the truth
|| that pvp sucks ass ||

[fresh spire]

I liked pvp way back when

Just feels annoying now

[hushed pine]

Legion was the last time it felt good

Well maybe SL too idk

[silent flame]

Im so bad at gearing alts tbh

i think at this point imma just go for crafted

my mains like 634 nearly

but my alt is only 618 D:

[hushed pine]

Those crit vers items are giving me physical pain ngl

[quaint otter]

[boreal quartz]

Step 1, get 639 achi on main

Step 2 save crests be happy

[silent flame]

Kek

[thick kelp]

angle is

619 hero piece on every slot

or vault/raid

for mythic piece

dont upgrade

craft 2x items

and wait for main to unlock crest discount like phil said

[silent flame]

Fair

But that assumes i get a myth slot on every piece though right?

5 Mythic slots a week should do that if i aint too unlucky :)

[thick kelp]

i mean my alts are at like

1 or 2 myth slots

[silent flame]

Mine has 3 i belive?

2 embelished slots

But technically i could go lik

All season without being able ot hit max ilevel

but the chances for that are p low

[boreal quartz]

Raid myffic then

[silent flame]

I am raiding myffic

Guild is like a casual heroic one though so we arent like

super good at prog

plus we waiting like 1 hour + last night because people were stuck with the update

How much is the crest discount btw

[boreal quartz]

How many bosse

4?

Cuz i meant like reclear raid type myffic

[silent flame]

AH ok

we havent done rashnan yet

we had some idiots last night

couldent reclear sikran for whatever reason

week before we killed him attempt 2

we had like 20 wipes last night

[thick kelp]

take your warrior to quick alt mystic

[silent flame]

Arent they a bit low ilevel?

Also i need to get to 639 on main for discount right

so mythic on every single slot

[thick kelp]

ye

[silent flame]

cause i have 4 636 crafted slots

in that case i need
head, neck, wrists, dagger, hands, belt and 2x rings

[thick kelp]

I was 618 on my alt warrior when I started doing 4/8 on it

[silent flame]

Fair

[boreal quartz]

Alt pug mystic out prog main Team

[silent flame]

i mean getting a good group is the hardest part

[thick kelp]

Classic

[silent flame]

Plus im shit at single target arms
idk what i fucked up when i tried it once but i fucked smth up

prolly my cds

[quaint otter]

Impossible to pug with this

[boreal quartz]

[thick kelp]

negative sir

I pugged with this

[quaint otter]

Im not getting invited as 626 warri

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelp now leak main prog xd

That's the kicker

[thick kelp]

6/8 sir

2nd warrior life

[quaint otter]

And when i got it turned to be not a 4/8 alt run but bloodbound progress

[boreal quartz]

[silent flame]

Still idk

[thick kelp]

Private logs even

[boreal quartz]

Idk im also 6 andy now but i didnt kill brood week 1

Like someone else here did

[silent flame]

Crafted gear lets me target specific stats so if I get unlucky w vault it would be good no? Cause even if I’m raiding mythic idk how far we will get and it’s harder to get myth gear on alt atm due to not being able to get invites to things

[thick kelp]

Yeah like tmy did

[boreal quartz]

MR WR4

Dh dawg

[thick kelp]

73 warriors bis geared day raiding in 18 guilds

[midnight mural]

my alt has like... 10 myth track items

[mild nymph]

Ok

[midnight mural]

4/8 goes hard

[boreal quartz]

I have no alts above 600 ilvl

Actually no my ret is 610

Hate him tho he's dead to me

[thick kelp]

what date

was week 1

[midnight mural]

i mean.. i cant imagine doing 8 keys and raid clears on more than 2 chars

[thick kelp]

september 20 something

?

[boreal quartz]

Sometime September no

Ye

End sep

[boreal quartz]

I dont even do keys on main

I hate keys

[quaint otter]

Geared my rogue to 611 in one day

[midnight mural]

colossus pretty fun tho

i like it so much more than fury

[boreal quartz]

Yea but the keys man

I dont enjoy most and then just mists is mad boring

[thick kelp]

You need a guild grp to do 8x 10s

[boreal quartz]

Id rather play League or anything else

[thick kelp]

and then one hc clear

your alt shld be at a pretty good state

[midnight mural]

i pug 16x +10 every week sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit

[quaint otter]

Same

[thick kelp]

16??

you are crazy

[boreal quartz]

I think i just dont raid next ssn

[midnight mural]

well i mean.. its 8x+10 on 2 chars

[silent flame]

Cause unless I spend ages hosting a mythic group (which I could try) idk how I’ll get raid prog on my alt

[quaint otter]

8 main 8 on alt and prolly few more with guildies

[thick kelp]

one 10 on each

[silent flame]

And idk people are idiots and die to things like getting knocked off by ulgrax somehow

[thick kelp]

get rwarded

[midnight mural]

i decided to push a bit of rating on my main - i think it helps getting into pugs

[silent flame]

Already trying that

[silent flame]

It helps me hosting keys but not joining

[quaint otter]

Looks like people dont want a brown class

[silent flame]

So idk crafted would get me to like
Pretty high still no? Because I get mythic items and crafted gear. Also as the season goes on the crest cap will go super high right

[quaint otter]

Its already high as fuck

1k now iirc?

[silent flame]

Ye

So still idk what route I’ll take to hear

*gear

To pug on my arms I need to learn how to do my ST better

[midnight mural]

990 crests :[] only 82 timed gilded crest m+ runs to cap on a new alt

[silent flame]

Lmao

Tbh I could maybe try to get some crafted and some mythic idk

What CDs do I try and align in ST again?

[slow saddle]

I guess demo + wb?

[boreal quartz]

CDs on cd

Bs with cs in exe

[silent flame]

Ah ok ok

I need to look at the rota again then because I must have been fucking something up in single target

But yea I’ll guess I’ll keep going with weekly and get hero gear

Would it be wise to upgrade my hero gear to max or just 619

[fallen flume]

with the current iteration of arms in ST as slayer, do you guys prio spending rage on slam vs using OP charges when rage capped?

outside opportunist proc

[boreal quartz]

OP

Rage doesnt matter till exe

[silent flame]

So in ST you slam OP when it’s got a charge unless you have CDs to press or MS?

Or execute sudden ig

[fallen flume]

I see, I was thinking that spending rage on slam would somewhat be worth for CS cdr

[boreal quartz]

Jugg refresh/falling sd/3mfeMs>op>sd>slam

Type shit

[silent flame]

Ah ok ok

And for CDs I use them off CD
Should av be used with the other ones tho

[icy mulch]

@rare kite let's move this convo here.

[fallen flume]

alright tyvm for the info

off topic: do you guys know if disabling sounds can increase fps in WoW?

[icy mulch]

Yeah, Arms certain took a nose dive in BFA. Azerite armor and borrowed power made up for it though. Covered the flaws.

[fallen flume]

I'm actually struggling a bit with fps issues on mythic kyveza so I'm trying everything possible

[rare kite]

fury is basically the general channel of this discord, nobody minds there

[icy mulch]

Lol fair

But maybe we'll get some other long tooth Arms players in on it.

[rare kite]

i even went back and watched some legion videos to make sure it wasn't nostalgia and i played cata classic. now i'm not a fan of stance dancing but i'd rather have cata arms than this bfa one

critcake has also been saying for the longest time that we should just revert to legion arms

[icy mulch]

Cata was when I had the most fun as Arms.

I didn't get lucky with the Legendary drops in Legion. So I got stuck going Fury for a bit.

[rare kite]

Now if legion arms isn't an option, i would like a complete rework from the ground up. like start from scratch and pretend arms never existed

just give us something interesting

[icy mulch]

Now would you want new abilities or just how they interact?

Our class and spec tree could really use a trim or full rework.

[rare kite]

some new abilties would be cool. definetely a rework of both class and spec trees

I personally don't really like the bleeds for doing damage atleast. i wouldn't mind rend giving us rage per tick but barely doing damage, but i feel like that might be a hot take. or a very low damage builder(new ability)

[dim basalt]

You try to pair them if possible

Which should always work for CS and avatar, every now and then with BS too

Its worth holding for around 10 seconds

[silent flame]

So

CS with BS and roar? Or just CS and Bs

[dim basalt]

At least outside of execute, inside execute it could be way less since you reset quicker

CS always with avatar, everything else only if the cd is not too long

[silent flame]

K

Just in M+ at least it feels like Roar and BS line up

[daring heron]

[tulip breach]

Wait you guys want focused rage?

[rare kite]

love you buddy

[icy mulch]

I don't mind the bleeds giving a passive damage buff. Would reward always having it on the mobs. That's about all I'd like out of it though.

[slow saddle]

Ngl i enjoy collosus arms

[icy mulch]

Our normal actual rotation needs more to it. More big fat numbers for the monkey brain activation. Not the calculus, 3 or 4 buff debuffs we currently look at.

[slow saddle]

Its not fantastic. But pretty great

Martial prowess deletion

Buff ms to always slap

Suddenly battlelord eb good arms fun

[rancid solstice]

I ljke colossus when fighting packs of enemies with m+ build but then going into ST boss feels pretty oof

[icy mulch]

I really like the interaction of cleave and collateral, but it needs to be smoother and not clunky.

[slow saddle]

Get more crit

More crit more smooth

[icy mulch]

I mean as in getting things to line up to make that super cleave min maxed

[slow saddle]

I still think martial prowess is the issue there

Its that 1 extra modifier

[rare kite]

doesn't need to be the part of legion where you ran focused rage. in antorus iirc you did not run it

[icy mulch]

Maybe. I just don't like the concept of having to hold say Avatar or warbreaker for the super cleave. Though it will give the best pay off.

[slow saddle]

Some modifiers are good

[rare kite]

agreed gokke, martial prowess needs to go

[slow saddle]

Imho

[slow saddle]

And its rly not

[rare kite]

so basically you enjoy pressing demolish? demolish itself is a satisfying button(in aoe atleast) but arms itself... it's rough

[slow saddle]

Tup

Well if u play eb and battelord

Arms flows ok

Less dmg 😅

[icy mulch]

It shouldn't be like that. You shouldn't have to give up damage to get a decent play loop.

[slow saddle]

Ofc not

But remove martial prowess

And this wont be an issud

[icy mulch]

What would you replace/do with it though?

[rare kite]

i think tactician being on overpower is very unsatisfying as well. you can't tell me overpower feels satisfying to press. cs has that oomph behind it

[icy mulch]

Tactician should of never switched off CS reset.

[slow saddle]

Problem is then tom is back

I dont want tom

[rare kite]

nah, we just remove tom

[slow saddle]

I love iftk

[rare kite]

should have never existed

[slow saddle]

But cs bad

Wb procs...

Would feel epic

[icy mulch]

ToM was fine as a set bonus or a borrowed power.

[slow saddle]

Yeye

[rare kite]

cs good with old mastery, made it hit hard

[slow saddle]

Tom would prob make .ore sense on fury🤣

[icy mulch]

Kinda? Maybe? Fury only has one rage spender.

[slow saddle]

But u want to press it

But tom bad, coz of dmg profile

Dmg starts after cds

Feels bad

[icy mulch]

Maybe bake it into AM? Add an attack to start the timer to build stacks?

[rare kite]

honestly arms cds feel bad right now anyway. like idk if you call sweeping strikes a cd, but it has half a gcd for some reason and doesn't feel satisfying. avatar pretty boring, would rather have battlecry.

[slow saddle]

I love avatar, and sweepin but remove gcd

[rare kite]

sweeping in legion was so nice, only affected ms and execute but was a passive

[quaint otter]

yeah looked massive

was 2 targets?

[rare kite]

yuh

[vestal pollen]

Is there any information on how much the pi boost or execute phase

[woven wasp]

it was 3 targets (2 additional) in legion

[rare kite]

ye that's what i thought he meant, like sweeping to 2 extra targets

[hushed pine]

It was 2 additional targets, passive, but limited to MS and Execute

[merry stone]

I think this info is on bloodmallet

[shadow ibex]

Avatar feels like a dinosaur

[sacred zodiac]

I don't think anyone has bothered making pi value for execute data

[shadow ibex]

A button from a different era

[sacred zodiac]

You can just sim it by setting health % from the enemy to 35% from the start of the sim

[thick kelp]

or

execute patchwerk

sim

[tacit crystal]

nah

too easy

[sacred zodiac]

Oh ye that's a setting

Oly moly

[rare kite]

ye it's so bland, meanwhile for ret they have crusade where they get like everything

[shadow ibex]

Avatar just last mega forever

And AM means its gonna cover a window

That's about the only thing it got

[jade cargo]

@icy mulchhello Girl

hows Canadian Army

[latent moss]

it is

wow 20% damage for 20 sec every 1:30 and i turn gray and a bit bigger

[vague nova]

I know it doesn’t last as long but it as always funny to me our 1.5 min cd gives less damage than our 45 sec cd that gets reduced lol

[icy mulch]

Hola

Good, still in, still kicking ass.
Mind you I've been sick for about a week now.

@jade cargo

[jade cargo]

come play D4 with me girl

[icy mulch]

I didn't like d3, lol.

[finite mantle]

[fresh spire]

D3>d4

[tacit crystal]

fishy speaks the word of the lord

🙏

[fresh spire]

D3 like last 10 seasons was all good

If only it started like that

[tacit crystal]

oh

for some reason i was reading it as df s3 > df s4

[fresh spire]

[tacit crystal]

fishy would you agree df s3 > df s4

🙂

[latent moss]

hi

would u agree with gio

[tacit crystal]

would u agree with gio

[latent moss]

yes

s4 prob worst season ive ever played (i played for the first 2 weeks and quit immediately)

[fresh spire]

Fated was bad in df

[latent moss]

aint no way you wont catch me playing all raids again every week and doing dungeons i do NOT enjoy

[fresh spire]

Fated in shadow lands felt better

[latent moss]

i got max leggo

and quit

pretty much

[fresh spire]

I got my whole guild mounts from fyrak weekly. Then we started expansion

[latent moss]

fated was just

selling mount

xd

literally

make gold from selling mount and have 19 gold caps by tww

and they knew it

so they made sockets 12k on release

weapon 100k

etc

enchants 20k+ each

[lethal vale]

How bad is colossus compared to slayer? Demolish is too cool to not use

[latent moss]

better in m+

also iirc its not bad on st anymore

[lethal vale]

Really? Interesting, how much worse does arms work out compared to fury

[river ridge]

Kinda of a wash in raid since a lot of fights favor Fury's damage profile

But we're at the point in progression where you could play either and probably be fine

[lethal vale]

Is there anything that refreshes the rend on the target? Or do we really have to keep rending?

Maybe I’m missing something but I read all the talents and I don’t see a rend refresher

[tacit crystal]

ms refreshes during execute

so you have to refresh before execute

[lethal vale]

Damn. So before execute phase you just gotta do it yourself… kinda sucks but oh well

[gray herald]

yep

[lethal vale]

Man I’m coming from cata classic where MS just always refreshes your rend… crazy how we regressed

Not to mention we have a talent that makes them bleed faster so it seems like you probably need to reapply that shit all the time

I know rend does good damage but it’s just one of those buttons that is not satisfying to press

[gray herald]

yeah

skullsplitter feels ass too

imo

[sick gazelle]

Rend is one of your highest dmg per gcd moves

[rare kite]

that's not even the biggest regression. where is my Colossus smash reset????

[silent flame]

I’m hearing all this

And I already am so upset I missed legion

It’s making it worse D:

[merry stone]

Coming soon: Legion Classic

[silent flame]

I would genuinely play that

I mean

I would be way too young at the time of legion to understand what was even going on

I would have been like 10 or 11 or something

[rare kite]

stop saying things like that, makes me feel old

[silent flame]

Bro I’m 18

And I was born in dec 2005

Some people have characters older than me

[midnight mural]

I have a Steam account older than you :p

[silent flame]

Lmao

[midnight mural]

we need young blood to keep the game fresh tho

gets stale if only uncs are playing

[silent flame]

Also
Is it worth upgrading hero gear past 619 or nah

[silent flame]

True

[rare kite]

at this point probably yeah, crests aren't as big of a bottleneck anymore

[silent flame]

Fair

Tbh

My main isn’t 639 yet so I don’t get the discount tho

[rare kite]

almost no one is 639, like an extremely small amount of people

[silent flame]

Fairs

Was just what I was told earlier

Yo wait until I’m 639 to upgrade alt mythic gear X)

[rare kite]

obviously that would be ideal, but hitting 639 is rough

[silent flame]

True

[tacit crystal]

i need 3 more items then its doable

2 if i take belt from vault

[rare kite]

what sucks is crafted doesn't count

[tacit crystal]

yarp

idk how im going to get 2 mythic rings

[rare kite]

when new ring comes out i will only need wrists

[tacit crystal]

because dk will probably go to reclear next week

[nova marsh]

Tbh I just really dislike fated

It's kinda boring but fated in DF was just....hard pass

[hasty vapor]

Hey , i have 5 codes left for Hateforged Blazecycle - MTW DEW PROMO - If someone interested. Let me know . Thanks

Working on EU servers - Is GLOBAL USE

[eager sigil]

50 gold

offer

[shadow ibex]

Fated could be fun with the new weekly m+ affix

Aoe stun some shit and get buffed

[finite mantle]

Fated could be fun if they made it fun

[shadow ibex]

Buy all your gear and stop playing it in 4 weeks

[slow saddle]

Was fun gettin all the op loot

[shadow ibex]

if everyone has OP loot it's just normal loot

https://tenor.com/view/taps-if-you-say-so-gif-9803186

[quaint otter]

Being not able to get a spymaster on shaman sucks...

[slow saddle]

Well my current vault luck begs a season 4 way of lootin🤣

[zenith warren]

ip amount is pathetic now

barely can see it on a hp bar

[tacit crystal]

yea

🙂

[latent moss]

90% of them are tmy and his collection of warriors that have been bis since week 3

@dull siren thoughts?

i will get obliterated

[tacit crystal]

[shadow ibex]

It's still using DF values

[naive sage]

Real

[naive sage]

It’s because Tmy is incredibly based unlike us

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/true-trueing-morgan-freeman-gif-13670948309525251322

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-cat-2-suspicious-cat-the-cat-looks-suspiciously-cat-sits-in-front-of-food-the-ginger-cat-is-watching-gif-14890167989997543813

[dull siren]

I'm 2 items off

?

but all my alts will be 638 when I get the achievement

[latent moss]

all 74 of them

?

no need to be humble

[dull siren]

i dont have that many chars

[latent moss]

[dull siren]

@latent moss

[sacred zodiac]

dented amt of characters i think

[latent moss]

jsn 638 at 76 lvl

🐐

[dull siren]

I only play 3 of em

[thick kelp]

plays 3 of them in 6 different guilds

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vCkzALkkZhrVNdLCzqEz17
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c6R8f7RN418cc8QJw7hvwL

Crest Farming Dented
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/errBtBHUsVxu69G6GZGzfz

This is is rn

Crest farming on dented

[eager sigil]

mirrors

holy

[latent moss]

43

he is just humble

[thick kelp]

They cant be called mirrors

when none of them raid in the same guild

[dull siren]

bro i just declined

a guild

tday

[thick kelp]

getting gear on 4th warrior too much?

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/true-trueing-morgan-freeman-gif-13670948309525251322

[slow saddle]

Will blizzy ever fix ignore pain for arms?

[astral talon]

tfw you get 99 log on hc or mythic, and you know you're not washed yet

[dim basalt]

yet

[astral talon]

yet

i used to be 99 player, then i was pvp player and my logs were at like 60-70 for the longest time 😦

[dim basalt]

I started playing colossus arms in M+ just for fun, farming crests in low keys

And its actually somewhat fun

But only with a shaman in the group

[shadow ibex]

0 rage spec

[dim basalt]

yuuup

The difference of having a sham vs not having a sham is so horrible

[fallen flume]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-rambo-wink-gif-26092693

true

[high field]

[dire hinge]

tremendous mood

been afk for like 2 months, came back and 99'd a few

[vocal gust]

Do yall take Bitter Immunity in your M+ builds for surivvability?

[dire hinge]

not ususally, but you can take it to handle the Xalatath affix if you'd like

[torpid jackal]

im takin it for Silken Court

oh this is arms chat

[dire hinge]

Seems infrequently taken even for fury on that fight, but yeah it's an option

[balmy kindle]

I only use it on the affix

[wooden lava]

When swapping between Rend and TC, is there a way to macro them into a single keypress?

So that if TC is talented, it will press TC, if not, press Rend

[dire hinge]

Yes, you use the [known] condition

It works like this:
/cast [known: Thunder Clap] Thunder Clap; Rend

[wooden lava]

very nice ty

works great

do u guys have any other good QoL macros for arms?

[dire hinge]

There's a few on WoWhead here:
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/best-weakauras-macros-addons#recommended-arms-warrior-macros

[ionic reef]

so im filling a dps slot for a mythic prog group am i gonna wanna go fury or arms?

[boreal quartz]

What can u play better

What boss

[ionic reef]

well fury is probably easier overall but i do like playing arms more

just trying to do the most dps overall

figured since im normally a prot war the gear would work better with arms but if the difference is crazy then regemming might be worth it

figured id ask for input

[boreal quartz]

What's the boss ur on dawg

[ionic reef]

blood

[boreal quartz]

Fury

Assuming u mean brood

[ionic reef]

no 2nd boss

[boreal quartz]

Doesnt matter then

Play what ur comfy on

[dire hinge]

either one is fine for the first 3 bosses tbh, they all just kinda get pushed over

[boreal quartz]

First 4 depending on comp

[dire hinge]

if you team doesn't have an add person for Rashanan fury will shine bright

[boreal quartz]

We have 2 brown so i arms on it very cozy!

[dire hinge]

same it's good

[ionic reef]

we got 2 other fury warriors

so i was thinking arms

[boreal quartz]

But for court now no reclear

Extendo

[boreal quartz]

If u do more st on it then ye why not

[dire hinge]

gocha, just do arms then, they'll blender adds for you

[boreal quartz]

I sometimes even colossus 2nd boss

Kinda funny to Demo the adds then swap back to boss

[balmy kindle]

I do that on heroic for 2nd, very meme dmg

[ivory hound]

wowhead is saying skullsplitter in opener is after bladestorm, but most logs i see use it before, is there a significant difference

[thick kelp]

no

[ivory hound]

sick

[thick kelp]

the proper way to use it is after BS tho

since it minimizes the chances of having to re-rend during CS

[ivory hound]

i made a wa to try to optimise execute usage giving a reminder when i have 2 procs, when juggernaut is about to expire and when sudden deaths about to run out but havent had the chance to test it yet

[thick kelp]

https://wago.io/9n9GqeQ6-

Here is one that has been checked to work

for many weeks now

[ivory hound]

i feel like getting high stacks of juggernaut for execute phase is pretty important and have kind of been zombie-ing the spec

oh nice thank you

mine currently just blows out my eardrums with electricity each time i need to press execute

[thick kelp]

well its nice yes but due to how frequently we can proc SD its almost impossible to get 15 stacks before execut

or keep them till exec

we would need a few seconds longer duration of Jugg

to be able to do it always

[thick kelp]

Yeah this WA plays Kaching sound

[ivory hound]

my smooth brain so far has just been pressing it whenever it procs :p

[median scroll]

gagagaga Prison

[ivory hound]

hopefully actually using the rotation properly (being concious of sd and tactician) will let me parse higher than purples in hc :l

ill post a log review but i suspect that getting the rotation correct (tactician over ms), pressing ms less in execute, managing sd procs and syncing avatar with cs should hopefully get me a bit of a boost

the logs in german

[thick kelp]

Theres a translate button

[ivory hound]

i find this out now after i have integrated kolossales schmettern into my daily vocabulary

[thick kelp]

atleast its not french

frappe mortaille

[ivory hound]

schmetteren sounds like the sound people make chewing with their mouths open

mortaille is powerful-er

[thick kelp]

sounds like a special coffee u order from some hippie coffee bar

[ivory hound]

also true

[thick hamlet]

bros what's the mortal strike during execute weakaura that's been going around

[midnight mural]

Kolossales schmettern !! Damn thats a good combo

[silent flame]

Whats the most fitting race for arms warrior do you guys think :P

[thick kelp]

orc

[halcyon valve]

Human

[boreal quartz]

Orc

[thick hamlet]

bald haircut kul tiran

[ivory hound]

its growing on me ngl

[manic river]

How about the Spanish Muerte Súbita for SD

[naive sage]

Broxigar was an orc

And he was the most Chad arms warrior of all times

[daring heron]

broxigar didnt play war within arms

[naive sage]

Good point

[shadow ibex]

Is that a good or bad thing

[daring heron]

good for him

[shadow ibex]

Broxigar probably had good capstones

No MP and 75% ep probably

[daring heron]

damn he played legion

[naive sage]

Broxigar was the last warrior actually dealing damage with his Bladestorm

[thick kelp]

omE

[silent flame]

Gnome with a weapon 3x bigger than her
Best arms warrior

BS is them being spun by the blade, not the blade spinning them

Wonder how it would look with the big wep
lemmie gleaful rq

I just feel like a toddler with a knife
OML the thunderclap animation is so underwhelming on female gnome

[finite mantle]

Mechagnome superior

[halcyon valve]

hideous race

just play human or orc like a normal person

[silent flame]

If you are boring

sure

or Belf is the more boring option

[quaint otter]

^

play dracthyr and use human form

[slow saddle]

Yw

Dracthyr wins😄

[silent flame]

True

Shocked nobody has said tauren

[slow saddle]

Looks shit

[silent flame]

What classes can remove sroud btw

from the mob in NW

[thick kelp]

purge

[silent flame]

So

Dh, hunter, mage, priest, warlock sham?

[weak rain]

belf

[balmy kindle]

i stand by dracythr

glide is insane

[silent flame]

Ye

Would it be a good idea to sim every dungeon drop at the same level and just go for whats higest

Also tried demolish for the first time

Or

properly tried it

Got a build without EB or Skull
a lot of fun :D

[rare kite]

glide is only insane on queen ansurek. warrior does not need more mobility which is dracthyrs biggest strength. i think dracthyr is easily the most overrated warrior race

[silent flame]

Or should i just go full balls to the wall with crit haste

[silent flame]

Also

[balmy kindle]

perhaps, but honestly i swapped from BE and boy the glide is so useful

[silent flame]

simmed all the gear

Crit/haste and crit/mast items

Assuming thats correct

[balmy kindle]

yes but crit haste is kinda default

[silent flame]

K fair

I needed both ring slots pref
2nd trink and hands
it suggested crit/hate ring x 2 or 1 crit/haste and a crit mast
Mark from GB
and a Crit/mast hands

[rancid solstice]

What’s this 11.0.7 ring does that have stats or just procs

[lucid thicket]

It's better in pvp where you always need more mobility

But it's easy as pve to say "mobility bad"

[rare kite]

Ye sure, incredibly small amount of people pvp here tho.

And no one said mobility bad. I just said it's the main selling point of dracthyr and that it's not as valuable for us

[lucid thicket]

Glide no selling mechanics is good

Simple as

[regal mulch]

Hi guys, hope you all are ok

i was wondering, why wowhead table on trinkets puts Ovinax trinket ranked so high but does not mention it on the best trinkets (sorry the bad english)

[rare kite]

There is only 1 fight where glide is really good. For mythic ansurek yes it's great but that's it

[regal wharf]

put together a stonevault 10 party

dungeon starts

tank pulls entire hallway

14 deaths without killing a single enemy

party falls apart

down to 9 SV

i hate this game

so much

[white axle]

anyone have weak aura for excute stack ?

[balmy kindle]

idk gliding is so good comparedto walking i cant give up this crutch now

[balmy kindle]

it assumes you balance the trink at 20 / 10

[livid cloak]

Drake meme : picking race for racial vs picking race for aesthetic

[livid cloak]

If you don't decurse, kick, stun, use defensives, and lust you're gonna have a bad time with that pull

Most dps just unga that pull then get frustrated when wipe

[regal mulch]

which i guess is not always posible, thats why maybe is not that good?

[balmy kindle]

yes

[balmy kindle]

Visage form is nice tho , i was like VE or dragon

[livid cloak]

I am drac thyr also

In permanent visage form

[balmy kindle]

same, the customisation is solid

[weak rain]

Idk, velf is the way, 11.0.7 buff looks juicy too

[regal mulch]

kk roger that, ty for your answer!

[balmy kindle]

I thought to myself too on that, then i tried out dragon form on trial

[weak rain]

I tried too, I think velf sims more anyway and glide/rift is the matter of preference

[balmy kindle]

Honestly dmg between races is quite insignificant so I just took dracthyr for the look and gliding

[regal wharf]

it was just damage i think

like he dropped in and just

died

I couldnt even charge in before he died

[weak rain]

True, I just adore velves, it's a fun bonus for me that they do 0.001% better dmg lmao.

[rare kite]

in general yeah, there are some races that are genuinely garbage tho like vulpera. the difference between vulpera and mechagnome is over 30k

[balmy kindle]

Oof 30k DPS, that much

[kind stag]

Mechagnome is punishment to play tho

[rare kite]

yea, couldn't pay me to play diapergnome

[kind stag]

Cant force with a gun to play those things

Dracthyr warriors are cool

Those horns go hard with some mogs

[rare kite]

mechagnome 7-8k higher than night elf(my race) but i refuse to play that race

[finite mantle]

if you don’t like looking good just say that

[livid cloak]

Isn't that 30k in bis gear, at like 1.6 mil dps?

30k drop in the bucket at that point

[rare kite]

yeah, 30k st. that's still almost 2% damage

[slow saddle]

😍

10% dmg buff. For good mog

[silent flame]

Dude

You are a legend for suggesting thi

Pug leading mythic rn on my war

Killed first 2 bosses in 3 attempts total

[boreal quartz]

Next 2 are oneshot

[thick kelp]

no problem

2nd boss arguably hardest to pug ngl

or sikran

[silent flame]

Wwell

2 people left

[thick kelp]

rip

[silent flame]

So we are waiting for people on sikran

[boreal quartz]

No one joins a started lockout

[silent flame]

I mean

people have joined

we are 19 rn

[boreal quartz]

Pepegas

But gl

[silent flame]

Some people are saying to try with the 19 we got

[thick kelp]

doable

[silent flame]

God a 20th

[boreal quartz]

Xd

[silent flame]

It was going so well then people fucked up everything D:

Still 2/8 on alt is nice :D

Also still p shit at Arms ST tbf

[boreal quartz]

Esp in mythic the log % will be brutally honest

Youll greylog alive if ur shit

[silent flame]

Brto

ill fucking go negative log

I HEAl the boss

[weak rain]

Mechacringe is only around 3k ahead of velf for me and velf is supposed to be top 2 race I think dps-wise

Mechacringe is just op I guess lmao

[silent flame]

Bro

💀

My assa logs vs arms

[weak rain]

[silent flame]

I have legit never done so bad in my entire life on a wow boss

holy fuck

I legit don't know how to play this class single target

[boreal quartz]

Are u alive there

Lmaoo

[silent flame]

First one

i insta died with like 3 other people

[boreal quartz]

2nd one i mean

[boreal quartz]

How tf u die tho

[silent flame]

....

[boreal quartz]

Like

[silent flame]

yes

On 1st on i died but 2nd i live

[boreal quartz]

How does one die to first boss

[silent flame]

I don't know the rota at all
I look at it
try it
and fuck up

The person who needs the pull it goes like

2ft away from the boss

[boreal quartz]

Did u try on dummy

[silent flame]

Yea

[boreal quartz]

And then u leap?

And gate

[silent flame]

I think i leaped to the soak
because my brain thought it was further away
despite waiting for the pull in to be a better idea

idk how my brain works

[boreal quartz]

Doesnt apparently

[silent flame]

Im used to going in then hitting sprint

[boreal quartz]

Need to be more aware

Send log for 2nd

[tawdry quail]

Wait

Is this a joke

[boreal quartz]

Doesnt rlly matter does it

Aoe raid

[silent flame]

How can i find the log for it? Im just looking on the character page

[weak rain]

buff arms cleave dmg lmao

rend/deep wounds buffs incoming

[tawdry quail]

Been a month or two since I last played wow, how is arms doing right now cos I saw that and it made me laugh

[boreal quartz]

Did u not log ur run?

Char Page works

Click on the 10

[tawdry quail]

My all time fave class fantasy doing less dmg than a support class

[boreal quartz]

Grab the link and Post in #449510248579858432

[boreal quartz]

Class fantasy never helps

It's only cope

[tawdry quail]

What

What y on about

[boreal quartz]

It can be so cool

Like frostfire mage

But it just never makes u good

Like a good class

Cuz gameplay wise we are ass rn

[silent flame]

Clicking on the 10 and nothings happening

also idk if im comfy postying the log in publix

genuinly so embarrsed about how shit im playing

[boreal quartz]

If u wanna improve

[silent flame]

consdiering im good with assa

[tawdry quail]

I ain’t the type of guy to not like a class fantasy just cos the class itself is dog shit

[silent flame]

Yea yea ik but people might jsut point and laugh yknwo :D

[boreal quartz]

"good"

[tawdry quail]

I just found it funny how an Arms Warrior ended up lower than a support class in the raid

[boreal quartz]

Log avg is fun and all but damage isnt everything since ur not rlly deep into raid

[boreal quartz]

Supp class just broken wcyd

[silent flame]

Fair

i mean i do 14s

if that counts

[boreal quartz]

Minigame 🥱

I only rlly look at the content i enjoy

[weak rain]

nah but seriously arms sustained cleave in st build is so ass,it's just truth, even on 2 target combat arms sucks(when it should be 1 of the best)

pure st arms is fine I guess, which is weird

[rare kite]

yea mechagnome is pretty crazy atm

[midnight mural]

what?

[midnight mural]

what is this?

[tawdry quail]

Dunno, I saw this shit on wow news

[weak rain]

wasn't that pre-buff?

[boreal quartz]

31/10

Brooo

Legit month ago xd

[tawdry quail]

What is it like now

[midnight mural]

both warrior speccs fuck pretty good

[boreal quartz]

Look at wcl??

[tawdry quail]

What’s wcl lmfao

[boreal quartz]

Warcraftlogs.com

[tawdry quail]

I’m good thanks cba

[tawdry quail]

Always fun to compete as a warrior

[weak rain]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-nerub-ar-palace-dps-rankings-the-war-within-season-1-week-10-351087

[boreal quartz]

But cry abt statistics

[tawdry quail]

Sweet thanks

[tawdry quail]

Who’s crying

[boreal quartz]

Youre complaing about aug>arms

[tawdry quail]

You’re annoying lol

I said I found it funny

Did I hurt ur feelings or something

Chill

[boreal quartz]

I think people posting out right wrong things while not knowing what they are talking about is annoying

[tawdry quail]

Look who’s crying now

[weak rain]

Arms is pretty good on pure st, cleave though... pretty ass I 'd say, arms should be insane at 2 targets(as it always been). We are back kinda in df s1(pre tree rework), when we either do only st or only aoe

[boreal quartz]

???

Seek help

[tawdry quail]

Yeah df was kinda fun

Cringe

[sacred zodiac]

you are the crier wokehead

[naive sage]

Nice propic

[tawdry quail]

Chad

[tawdry quail]

Huh 😂

[tawdry quail]

Weird ass people

[daring flicker]

thats woke

[quasi torrent]

🍐

[regal wharf]

i sincerely think they NEED to address how shattering it feels to brick a key

[vocal gust]

Maybe more crests

[regal wharf]

no i mean like

Dont fucking deplete key levels anymore

just give back the key we already had

[vocal gust]

Yea I'd like a two/three strikes system on a key before it gets downgraded.

[regal wharf]

agreed

like, if you're going to punish players so severly for fuck ups that might not even be their fault

it's gonna make people only want to do other peoples keys

and then that's how you get this environment where it's so hard to get into keys

[vocal gust]

Even if the strikes were just around the plateaus for value.

8s have two strikes before going to 7 (because of the gildeds) and 10s have two strikes before going to 9s (because of myth vaults)

[nova marsh]

Leaving keys constantly should be a bannable offense

[muted rune]

Arms in MDI!?! wooooaaahhh

[zinc wolf]

He def is funny

[naive sage]

Crazy idea
M+ dungeon finder
You can join a certain m+ lvl if you successfully timed the previous one
Groups will be random and meta comps will have less power

[slow saddle]

Kek so from 9 - 10 jump is big

• should ilvl come into it

[astral talon]

or, you can apply to a group

[slow saddle]

A 610 can do a 10, but 630+ is fastwr

[astral talon]

imagine you had to do triple aug, guardian druid, holy priest +10 necrotic

have fun my guy

have fun

rng was not on your side

[slow saddle]

The idea is ok and all but theres a reason meta is meta

[astral talon]

you can still do keys as non-meta

[slow saddle]

Ofc

[astral talon]

and you can still find groups as non-meta

[slow saddle]

But comp matters

[astral talon]

you just won't be first choice

[tacit crystal]

crazy idea finding problems is easier then finding solutions